DO NOT PU France! - EU4 1.33 England Guide

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In this video titled DO NOT PU France! - EU4 1.33 England Guide I make an EU4 Guide for England for Europa Universalis 4 1.33 France. With EU4 1.33 France releasing the meta and the starting moves for many nations on the map has changed, so of course new and up to date guides are needed. This EU4 England starting moves guide or EU4 England starting moves tutorial will ensure that you get a great start for yourself playing as the nation of England . This guide covers the opening moves, the war of the roses, fighting France, diplomacy, estates, alliances, subjects, missions, national ideas, and more! England is one of the best nations for playing tall, colonizing, being extremely rich, having extremely high development, dominating trade, forming Great Britain and more! After watching this EU4 England guide you will ensure a great start for yourself, and you will have an easy and fun campaign. The save file is available for all Tier 1 and above KZbin members in the save-games Discord channel.
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[@TheRedHawk]

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[@youssofm.69yearsago40]

Do an oirat guide! It will definetly be interesting as it is unique and useful for other players who get scared from figting ming

[@the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8]

You’ll definly have fun when the next major update comes out

[@Blackjackwhiskey]

I still think there aren't many Ming guides out there, it would be cool to see one. But what about trying some less popular nations, like Tlemcem (forming Andalusia)? Another cool one would be Albania.

[@Bleed1987]

Livonian Order Guide would be really interesting to me when 1.34 comes out

[@hh8575]

Lusatia guide please.Never been done by anybody.

[@Mr_Mcgee_]

For parliament seats, they actually do give boosts to the provinces! I prioritize the good RGO and high dev provinces, such as the cloth and iron provinces that are also farmlands.

[@lamename2010]

Don't forget the sailors boost to costal provinces. One of the reasons for why my coast tends to be peppered with parliament seats.

[@Havingfun0]

same I also like to pick future good provinces like the ones with coal. Centers of trade as they will get deved more.

[@pileofcheese5017]

What's ROG stand for?

[@MrVentches]

@@pileofcheese5017 he means the tradegoods, my guess it that he meant RGO, which is a term from victoria 2 for the provincial goods.

[@dorktriogamer2865]

I just go to my dev production interface and sort by most dev

[@LordBeegers]

@22:30 I hesitate to second-guess a master of his craft, but (unless I've lost my mind) if you use the Return Cores tab instead of Cede Provinces (or clicking map) in the Peace Deal, the cost should be the same for all subjects regardless of which was selected as war goal. Update: just tested and confirmed. Released Gascony, used console to give myself two provinces to release Champagne and Toulouse. Declared for Reconquest of Montpelier. Returning the core of any country (not just subject - I consoled France a Burgundian province to double-check) with Return Cores tab counts as war goal. Additionally, it turns out that recovering the cores of all three subjects can be done in a single war (I had even neglected to rival France) for 23 AE. Keep up the good work. I'm just glad to be able to pay a fraction back for the thousands of other pieces of invaluable game knowledge I owe to you.

[@Dezerzh]

The only downside of this is you don't get power projection. But this is also the only way to benefit from any bonuses to Province Warscore Cost (like from Diplo Ideas) while using Reconquest CB, so it's very important to know and use.

[@LordBeegers]

@@Dezerzh Good spot. I guess I tend to overlook PP since reconquest wars like this (Ottomans for Byz/Bulgaria for example) are so devastating otherwise the outcome is more than satisfactory. But thanks for the very helpful reminder. EDIT: There's a second gem I owe you for. 3000 hours and didn't know specifically that Province Warscore Cost reduction only applies to CB (currently scouring wiki) - is that an accurate assesment?

[@Dezerzh]

@@LordBeegers I think it is not just for your CB, but for every province you either take yourself, release or return. If someone else gets land in your peace deal, their modifier will be taken into account.

[@Magier2010]

ok, the following: if you use "return core" you can give cores back to all the vassals for the reconquest ae. if you give it to them via cede province you cant, so you CAN give back champagnes cores in the toulouse war :)

[@JetFuelSE]

Would be nice if you could do another colonial-focused guide.

[@linguotgr]

Some fun min-maxing, before releasing Gascony, you can give out a monopoly on wine, get some free money and mercantilism, and then when you have no more wine production, it be instantly revoked. Also worth noting, you dont need to take the Levy the Troops mission as soon as it is complete if you think that you may not have time to go for the PU over them in time. You can just take it right before you are ready to attack.

[@shorewall]

The way I did it in the past, was wait until I get the notification for the Surrender of Maine. Then I exploit dev and hire mercs to fulfil the mission, and take it right before I select to start the War with France. The reason I try to get it before the War with France is my manpower get destroyed by the war, and I don't want to wait for it to recover. Doing it this way gives me 20 years to beat France, and then go for the PU on Scotland, which is more than enough.

[@Shadow.24772]

i wouldn't necessarily say experienced players dont need guides. it's always nice to see from another person's perspective. + in my case, a player who mostly does his thing in europe and asia, i have no clue what to do in india, africa or middle east... so seeing what are the easy to meta starting moves in those areas give me a push in the right direction. after that it mostly what RNG decides to throw. Like...i had this holland run and managed to get the same dynasty as england. i... didnt form Netherlands anymore until i got the PU. cuz apparently becoming Netherlands changes your leader and dynasty xD

[@ConFusi0n]

Yeah, it helps a lot with country-specific things, like the War of the Roses disaster.

[@Mr_Mcgee_]

I was literally just watching your 1.32 guide for England yesterday! I started going for “One Night in Paris” after I got the “Turkish Delight” achievement! Thanks for the guide!

[@thecritic860]

YES! I’ve been waiting for this one!

[@Dezerzh]

You don't get regular AE for the reconquest of other cores if you "Return Core" in the peace deal instead of "Cede Province". It won't give you power projection, but will be part of the war goal and thus have reduced AE and no Unjustified Demands (diplo cost). This is very important to know when fighting France or the Ottomans.

[@slaviansky]

He does this in every video, which saddens me every time Also, by returning cores you remove cores of the current owner if the province doesn't have owner's culture

[@hghg8991]

I try to do it but I can't see it in the peace deal

[@SoldierGeneral64]

@@slaviansky are you sure? Full cores are supposed to prevent that.

[@MrVentches]

iirc, you can also do this if you transfer the occupation ownership to the corresponding vassal, and then cede the land in the peacedeal.

[@Dezerzh]

@@MrVentches Not sure about the AE, but you will definitely have unjustified demands. So it will cost you diplo.

[@JulianSollenskog]

i literally just finished watching your 1.32 guide because i wanted to start a save and then you go and release this. absolute king shit, thanks Hawk!

[@almgaming186]

Always a good day when there is a new red hawk video

[@H4FF]

As a reasonably experienced player, I love watching guides. There are always nuances you may not be aware of, especially if the nation in question is not in an area you usually don't play in yourself. I personally also like that it gives me ideas of what nations to play next! I often find myself not knowing who to play, lol.

[@freez2406]

It's always a pleasure to hear you pronounce french provinces when I'm actually french !

[@aleksajakic8447]

3:37 Why would you pass missionary strength reform when you wont be expanding into non-chatolic lands for a very long time, maybe never, just loss of institution spread

[@miqal95]

I think it'd be a good idea not to break guarantee of Scotland in first peacedeal. It can be a good way to restart truce with France and beat them once again faster. Anyway nice guide as always :D

[@thedemonhater7748]

I think we all appreciate these guides, but we ought to appreciate them more considering the meta changes with every new update lmao

[@danielcavallarigoncalves7309]

I believe that, in the War of the Roses, if you let one of the sides enforce demands, you actually get the rebel army for yourself. Might be worth checking... in that case, it might be better to actually choose to side with the WORST side, and let the rebels win.

[@Valiere2024]

I'm a more experienced player but I still watch your guides just to take note of different playstyles. I believe last playthrough you took territory in the PU war rather than selling Maine to Provence. I commented suggesting to do the sell province strat and it's reassuring seeing you doing it this time around.

[@mistery728]

You definitly would earn 100k subs, you are the best eu4 channel

[@shxggy.7872]

was just thinking of playing england, what a pleasant surprise.

[@FerramusNL]

I just started my first England run two days ago lol. Did PU France, but then I like a chilled out playstyle and I can just hang out for a while now trying to get some other PUs and colonize while not a single country is outraged after the initial few years of the PU. Boring maybe, but that's okay after going for a big Roman Empire run to 1821 before.

[@Giga-su9gr]

We are back with guides :)

[@johnnyzhu9867]

You can take cores for multiple vassles via return cores peace deal during reconquest war.

[@idanadler1627]

Lol i started playing as england before like 4 days after watching the 1.32 england guide you made, and in that guide you said to PU france in the surrender of maine event. Then the first thing i see when i am entering KZbin is this new guide "DO NOT PU FRANCE" lol

[@x0lopossum]

You should do a Dominantion England, Great Britain early colonization guide.

[@SqurrielEMT]

My current England run, Burgundy is extremely nice to me and we gain up against France. 25 years later, I got the Burgundy Inheritance first try and I was mind blown… This is on Very Hard Difficulty geez

[@crocworks]

22:30 I think if you choose to "return cores" in a Reconquest war rather than directly "conquering the land directly" then it will not cost Diplo points even if it's not for the main vassal you fought the war for?

[@razorboy251]

Pretty good guide. My game went a little easier: War of the Roses didn't fire (got 2 heirs) and France started off rivaling Castille and Austria so I had no problem getting those two (and Portugal) to beat up France for me. Burgundy remained independent and I pretty much refused to get dragged into Austria's endless wars. I did like the Quality/Trade opening you suggested - it worked out better than the usual Exploration/Expansion opening I went with in the past. I'd love if you could do a non-European guide next, maybe something like the Mamluks or even the Aztecs?

[@EricMcLovin13]

innovative is also a good pick for first idea group, i always go with it first, england gets 100 innovativeness easily with anglican and the tech discounts and policies are broken for mid/late game

[@willkepley4147]

Love the video - very new player. My question is that when you are in the "Estates" screen, you don't have Nobles. I do in my version - am I not updated to the version you have or is this video an older version? Generally, though, thanks for walking me through how to succeed/start off w GBR.

[@ZPheenix]

hes playing on an older version 1.33 ur playing on 1.34, in 1.34 they add the nobility estate to england

[@binkl3220]

Whi is here after 1.35, must say this strategy still works brilliantly with some tweaking for Ireland and stuff like not coring anything in the isles as they will be pu’d anyway.

[@user-zq2ot2tr5b]

Just a little advice: As England you REALLY want to keep a chance for Burgundian Inheritance. Not just a FREE REAL ESTATE in Holland, but also a border with a couple of potential heretic nations, which you REALLY want to fight if you are HRE Emperor.

[@Jdawg1728]

I have do re pu France twice and on the second time it was 1600s and all my armies were busy dealing with my colonial holdings and my man power was dying slowly, so I couldn’t even put in the effort of re doing it and gave up on that game

[@mingyisun6857]

Hi could you do a update on England! Please, love your content.

[@bush7788]

thanks

[@sld1776]

I'm going to put this in my to-play list, but I'm opening with Influence ideas. Not sure which second idea to take.

[@purin6792]

Honestly, a Cornwall guide would be cool :P

[@ichigo_nyanko]

taking norway and sweden (with -province cost from ideas or advisor with expanded family mods which I play with) is like a tradition for me at this point, I do it in pretty much every game. In fact, that along with "dynastic ideas" in the idea variation mod I have just stopped using altogether because imo they're both just too op and make the game way too easy (the dynastic ideas more so than the sweden/norway vassals).

[@HazmanFTW]

Do a guide on Orleans on how to form the Jeanne d'Arc state

[@laca9198]

Do NOT kill the pretender rebels instantly, because there is one more ruler option during the disaster. After the choise if you check the demands they want a different (!) usually better guy as ruler then you just rejected and he can be even better then the one you choose. I just did a test numbers are 3/3/3 vs. 3/5/3 I took the later one, the rebels wanted a 2/5/3. In a previous run where I found this accidentaly I got a 6/5/5 after they killed half of my country during the maine war. So I got there the L with bankruptcy and a really good ruler.

[@monferno1]

Rn I’m waiting for 1.34 cz there’s so many things I want to play in the new update, cannot wait

[@adrianjsf]

I will say you should give parlament seats too good provinces like cloth,iron or farmlands. It gives a nice bonus to production tax and manpower

[@toonotsleep8]

I have far too many hours, and still learn things from your guides (Had no idea if you return another vassals cores to them on a reconquest CB it's regular AE) I wonder if "return cores" has the reduced ae/no unjustified demands cost, time to test this :)

[@Ravie1]

If you use the return cores tab you get reduced AE, think it costs slightly more warscore than if they had been the primary core reconquest CB country though? Because the return core button costs more in general vs using the correct CB and taking it regularly.

[@toonotsleep8]

@@Ravie1 thanks for your reply, very cool to know

[@nationandy]

Im min maxing my subscription, gonna click it on last day, last hour of august.

[@basicxax1775]

Love how Provence became an opm in maine

[@hghg8991]

Why did you core all the stuff in France? How are you gonna deal with government cap?

[@IronWolf123]

You should do a video on the most common mistakes EU4 players make

[@sireezi9128]

I had three separate starts each time I only got two stacks of rebels and none in France so I don’t know if I’m lucky but figured I’d share

[@leonarduskarolusiuliustant7498]

It may be the case that you max out 100 absolutism as England/Great Britain. That's because once the Age of Absolutism comes around, you have a disaster, the English Civil War, that could either make you a republic or a monarchy with autocracy as 1 tier government reform.

[@Luis_Manuel_Suarez]

Me: Play EUIV since 2013... Also Me: I'm going to see all of the Red Hawk guides even if i know how to play xD

[@maj.kingkong3004]

I am not so good at this game, but love your guides. I was playing a game using this one but after I finished off Scotland and had Gascony, etc as vassals I could never get them loyal. What am I doing wrong?

[@reillymercer5949]

Tip: As long as you don't choose the PU mission, you can always PU France later, it allows you to fight a global coalition later on, basically starting a European wide "War of the French Succession" once you're strong enough.

[@Yoatino]

Hey, What happen to Orléans at 8:22 . How did France manage to annex it that early in the game ?

[@reillymercer5949]

It must be a new AI strategy, makes sense though with the diplomatic restrictions.

[@demavend6847]

I believe that if you want to go exploration and expansion first then taking the PU over France may very well be the optimal strategy, but otherwise I think this is the better way. The AE from taking the PU is manageable with good allies which are typically Austria and Castile. Also France's loyalty can be fixed fairly easily before the truce wraps up. You still get to take over all of Ireland and Scotland, and then while you're waiting on the AE to cool off you play the colonial game.

[@elif9752]

I do something very particular : Since that war of the roses do -2 stab I decided to no cb Byzantium to make them my Vassal when Ottoman declare war (my allies where Castille Aragon(Naples) Austria Poland and Portugal for an Defensive war) and then I was going to pu France but Castille with Iberian wedding has my dynastie so I decided to claim trone and then I finished with Castille Aragon (Not Naples) Pu and a Byzantium Vassal but I lose my PU restauration Cb, well… it’s not very problematic. But I don’t know if the fact of no Cb Byzantium is a god idea

[@wtf1127]

for a moment i thought its gonna be chill palying tall colonization game where you abandon continental europe (exclude Calais) in my opinion you will have way more fun without blobbing into france and potentially into Netherlands and Iberia.

[@DiegoBPiquer]

27:30 Cant you trade favors for castillete to give back Toulouse cores?

[@fernandoromero1658]

27:32 you can take the core for favors

[@massimobhoori1169]

I might Remember It wrong but you cant get burgundian inheritance of your Capital isnt connected by Land to europe

[@girthquake465]

Legitimate question why not release Normandy and give them maine? Does it still fire the Hundred Years War or will France still declare on Normandy for Maine?

[@alexion2001]

Oops I just did...wish you uploaded this a few days ago :(

[@Riftrender]

I usually sell Maine to Britanny, since Provence usually hates me.

[@Bottentc]

My last game Brunswick got burgundy

[@raffaelenazzaro8798]

hi, everyone on youtube talks about the early years with england. but one of my main problems is how to become HRE emperor. can you please help me understand how to do it? thank you very much. raffaele

[@destroyer2670]

In my last campaign I created custom nation in British Isle and let England alive in French land. After I vassalized England and then I form great Britain and feed all French land to my vassal England then pu Spain and Bohemia. It was my favourite run in eu4

[@bpaddack1]

Is there any good tutorials on how to win wars? I swear to bob that no matter what nation I play or allies I have, I can't win a war with a major power. I just tried this strat, and had Castile/Aragon, Portugal, Austria/Hungary, and Burgundy all on my side. France had Britany...and they won. We had over three times the troops of France, and still lost. In another play through, I was the Mamluks. I was able to get Austria as an ally very early. We lost every war against the Ottomans. The biggest war we lost was in the 1750's. It was Spain (who owned all of Iberia and the New World), Austria (who had the HRE vassal swarm reform), the Commonwealth, Russia, and myself vs just the Ottomans. The only reason I made it to the end of that playthrough was thanks to Ming. They had turned both the Timurids and Japan into marches, never blew up, and kept beating up the Ottomans. Every time I try playing with a New World start, I can never get past the 1530's. Every colonizing nation sees me and declares conquest. My last time trying there (the run right before my England retry), I quit because at 1499 I was in three different wars with Portugal/Castile/Aragon, England, and France.

[@Havingfun0]

Did you know that you get more manpower from exploiting if you set the provinces edict to manpower?

[@Zultzify]

im glad this is the optimal run for beginners, it makes no sense for england to be able to hold a pu on france that early in history without 2 or 3 additional wars. IMO that pu peace offering sucks. Yes england is hard at the start, but the point of england is to expand outside of europe before dominating europe. they become broken when your only local threat is spain and the hre, france needs to exist in some form still, whether they eat burgundy after you win or burgundy eats them, that 3rd major rival makes it way less broken, and more accurate to how history actually played out. (my suggestion for balance would be to scrap the event restoration of union PU, and put it on the mission tree after owning some gascon and one or two northern cores. THEN it makes sense to claim the french throne.)

[@tylerott3697]

Is there a cap on how many parliament seats you can have

[@AGamingChannelJW]

Too confusing, PUd france, Austria and Brittany who got the Burgundian Inheritance. Had a lot of fun tho

[@gavinman0814]

Maybe a ming guide?

[@chapman714]

Hold on, reconquest wars in which you take cores for NOT the nation you declared for is just regular AE?!? 2000 hours and I’m still learning something new

[@jacklovejoy5290]

6:30 Plantagenet is a French surname, it's pronounced Plan-taj-a-neh

[@truegamer_007]

29:00 Why build workshops in high value trade good provinces? Workshops only affect production efficiency.

[@truegamer_007]

@Ferbujosbe Yes, but why rely on trade goods when you can see exactly how much money the workshop will make you in the macrobuilder?

[@truegamer_007]

@Ferbujosbe But you can just build the workshop in the future, when you'd actually start making money.

[@acommunistcrab3366]

Navarra guide when?

[@kis4659]

I prefer to PU France, as you can use them to quickly conquer Iberia before 1500. You will get a big coalition but during truces improving relations will keep it controlled and if you ally Austria or get Aragon as an ally or PU, it will never fire unless you start targeting Ireland.

[@taylor189]

I called in Austria, Portugal, Aragon, and Castille against France, and got smacked. My allies just defended their own territory and occasionally tried to help. Very frustrating

[@antimatterg]

Napoleonic wars be like:

[@thepopeofpineapples6275]

Guide video 6 of asking for a Walachia-> Romania guide

[@keegsgokrazy]

I got a perfect PU off on France.. Brittany, burgundy, Castile, and Portugal, all allied me from the start date and I stayed on Cornwall with my troops while all my friends fought for me. By the time the war was over I enforced Union with France while I myself had max manpower completing the mission giving me claims on all of Britain. In the middle of the France war I got the French cultured queen event which turned off the war of the roses event. After leaving the war the entire HRE is in a coalition against me but now that I own France Scotland and Ireland are free to conquer. By the time I finish off Great Britain the coalition has dissolved and I’m strong enough to keep France as my junior

[@4CelciusDegree]

Even if you're a good player PU strategy is much worse since you'll have no manpower after the war and you'll have a coalition formed against you for sure. It's just better to take money and cores of Gascony then killing your rebels then going for Scotland to shorten the truce with France and taking another province to release Toulouse

[@GothBoiCliiqz]

I usually swap to Irish ideas instead of English

[@prestonjones1653]

"Nobody will be in North America anyway." Meanwhile in my game: Spanish Canada

[@vongrywojenne]

Did France annex Orleans before 1454?¿

[@sprites75]

i'm surprised that France got coalitionned with that war , they had 0 Ae before due to your cutting to size...

[@mihajlo4655]

Why didnt you expand in Netherlands when fighting burgundy for bigger hold of english channel

[@mathiasmueller9693]

Probably not to get too much ae and cost to core

[@decem_sagittae]

Why video stops in 1496???

[@paulodecarvalho8965]

Lmao I’ve got 2.7 K hours and I still watch guides

[@browningcm]

No strong duchies because no nobles *STRENGTHEN NOBLE PRIVELEGES*

[@micahbonewell5994]

With all those vassals that you took I feel like influence is a much stronger first idea group pick

[@xzardas541]

Influence + Admin rules for france who is not as interested in colonies since you know, you can just take those from others for next to no AE. Main purpose of vassals is to spread overextersion over multiple countries with is only usefull if you can fight two diferent religion groups to spread out AE.

[@norxwx]

I have a major problem about this video, just like any other england guide, they just kinda skip the first french war. 3 second later EVERYONE occupied the whole country. NO i wanna see every frame of the war, because no matter how strong you are and your allies, every time, when i attack france i pray to the gods, for good rolls in both siege and battle. Otherwise... It is a nice guide.

[@nikolaitregouet]

Said it before, will say it again. England having no nobility just means pdx devs get high before they start working

[@nikolaitregouet]

Not to mention: how is the English parliament structured?… Fucking pdx not knowing their history is hilaaaaarious

[@carltonleboss]

English France...it's beautiful.

[@aesrenjoseph496]

Puing France is kinda good cz their moral and discipline always fuc*ing slaps.

[@TCoop6231]

Okay actually it does matter a great deal where you give a seat in parliament too. If you're not careful you're going to end up with a "Rotten Borough" event when a low-dev province has a seat. That will either force you to move to another province or get a bunch of corruption. Also, if you are going to release a vassal, you should take manpower dev from the provinces in that vassal before taking away dev from your own provinces on the English mainland. Wait, you could have stabbed up before the end of the WOTR and didn't? Come on buddy, you should know this stuff.

[@DSVlad]

There's also a pretty nice parliament issue that removes rotten boroughs from every province

[@lys-mara]

Not a lot of countries have a parliament (do any besides Britain have one in 1444?), so it's understandable that he wouldn't know that. I would probably have stabbed up too, but it doesn't matter all that much in the long run.

[@TCoop6231]

@@lys-mara He’s got almost 90K subs and he’s making tutorial videos. He doesn’t need to MinMax everything but it would be helpful to call out the better strategy tips to help players get better.

[@MickMackMikkel]

If you PU France, and they get the Burgundian Inhertiance, the PU over Burgundy will transfer to you.

[@regierdityatriadi9821]

Its only 1449 but wheres orlean??

[@chewbaccagamer9201]

That’s funny most guides never sold Maine to France but I do use that as a main thing in my runs to just avoid war until ready

[@shorewall]

I like it, because it makes RP sense as well. :D And there's nothing wrong with selling it to France.

[@chewbaccagamer9201]

@@shorewall I do so because the result is Provence being weaker because France will break their alliance but at the same time Provence will not have any strong alliances and essentially be picked off from the start

[@SoldierGeneral64]

Wonder what happens if you sell it to another country instead lol

[@getreadytv5170]

I rly like your vids, but the last ones are rly hard to watch till end. I’m speeding up with 1,5 but it’s still to much blabla

[@yxolloxy3273]

in my nearly 2000 hours I've not played england ever, for some reason I've shied away of all the major powers. (haven't played the ottomans, castille, france, muscovy, portugal ming vijay or bahmanis) I'm not even trying to be elitist here, for some reason my brain just goes: nah let's instead play the nations that quite easily become a major power (love playing tuscany, savoy, holland, popeman)