The Devil: Real or Metaphor?

[@jeniferstanley5826]

42:48 I'd like to point out something here for the sake of accuracy and because I'm a language nerd and currently learning Hebrew. In Hebrew, nouns themselves are either grammatically masculine or feminine (much like in a lot of languages, English actually seems to be an exception. My mother tongue is German, so I'm very used to this, for example the German word for "fork" is feminine, the word for "spoon" is masculine). Anyway the word for the Holy Spirit "Ruach HaKodesh" in Hebrew is grammatically feminine. Granted that doesn't mean that the Holy Spirit has an actual gender, but it is an interesting fact and I think it's important that we portray things accurately and I think that that was missed in this case.

[@m.e.b9]

Likewise, it’s my understanding there is no definite article “the” in the original language

[@m.e.b9]

Interesting conversation. It is my understanding though that there is no definitive article “the” in the original language so I’m not sure about that “the White House” “the Holy Spirit” point.

[@shariford2498]

Say it with me! Satan, no swiping! Satan, no swiping! Satan, no swiping! 😂

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

What?

[@TheRemnantRadio]

@@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w You have to watch the episode to get the joke

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@TheRemnantRadio ,...I see. I am still watching, I guess I haven't gotten to that part yet.

[@EthanAndLacieBeetz]

@@TheRemnantRadio I think they just like saying what?

[@Shneganzdi]

Will you guys do a podcast on the new documentary, “the real David Platt?”

[@100two1]

Please address the David Platt scandal

[@valeriemott3120]

Seems that viewing the scriptures through the lens of a cessationist might cause someone to explain Satan away. COME HOLY SPIRIT

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

There absolutely, positively is no such thing as satan. No actual Christian believes in or thinks there is a satan. The belief in a real satan is only the belief of fake christians. Repent!

[@fighterxaos1]

This question reminds me when I ran into Christadelphians. Never heard of them before and they were saying stuff like the devil was Jesus mental illness. When I heard that I was like "whoa! I don't know where to begin with that, I'm out!" That didn't sound like a group I'd associate with.

[@MrYikesSkeletons]

Yeah that's blasphemy.

[@fighterxaos1]

@@MrYikesSkeletons Yep, I shudder to what it would be like for them if they don't repent

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@fighterxaos1 ,...The fact is, the guys in this video are just as spiritually dead, blind, lost, deceived, and outside of the kingdom of God as are those who mentioned. You are all Gods enemies as you will find out on judgement day. Repent!

[@MrYikesSkeletons]

@@fighterxaos1 what are you talking about? Can you catch a fish with fiction?, can you you catch a fictional fish with fiction, and expect them to stick around? Poof.

[@MrYikesSkeletons]

@@fighterxaos1 Demons are real without pure context. May all men be considered liars for their own sakes. Unclean spirits, unfinished business, Jesus came to Finish the Father's works.

[@EthanAndLacieBeetz]

If man can manipulate weather, how could u think Satan can’t

[@charlesWarlick-r3s]

The storm Jesus rebuked on the sea of gallilee has been argued to be satanic in nature.

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@charlesWarlick-r3s,... What?

[@valeriemott3120]

Yup, after all, he is known as the prince of the powers of the air…

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@valeriemott3120 ,..There is no such thing as satan!!! Repent of your fake christianity!

[@maryt.2067]

i never knew he looked like gavin newsom interesting show!

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

These guys are all completely Biblically illiterate and are NOT Christians.

[@charlesWarlick-r3s]

Where is the passage in John that speaks about God's glory in Isaiah being Jesus? 🤔

[@charlesWarlick-r3s]

Nvm, I found it. John 12:41

[@Jamie-Russell-CME]

i agree

[@markdurdle7710]

I am of the view that there were 2 separate beings in the garden. Genesis 3 does say the serpent is a beast of the field and its offspring were cursed to become snakes. But Ezekiel 28 says Satan is a type of angel and was there as well. So Satan found a creature he could convince and use for his purposes. Not all angels look human, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Satan had some reptile like features, along with his wings (as he was a thrown room angel and they seem to be the ones with wings).

[@aaronvienot]

I've often wondered about how that played out, exactly. What's worth noting is that man, created to administer the earth on God's behalf, is inseparably natural (made of earth) yet spiritual (designed to share God's realm). What seems reasonable in Genesis 3 is that Satan, envious of that, took it upon himself (as a spiritual being) to inhabit the serpent (a natural being) in a crude imitation of God's design. When God cursed him, He addressed both Satan and his chosen natural form interchangeably, locking in the symbol so that we can correctly understand its use throughout Scripture.

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

What you have presented is all 100% unbiblical nonsense. Repent of your fake christianity!

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@aaronvienot ,....You also are completely Biblically illiterate and are NOT a Christian. Repent of your fake christianity!

[@MrYikesSkeletons]

If spiritual things can be experienced in the flesh, well how long can that last? All sorts of disasters and then birds coming out of the sun to eat your flesh, um it's possible, but as a nightmare.

[@EthanAndLacieBeetz]

Seraphim is serpent angel

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

What?

[@jcarrigan42]

Guys. Symbolic doesn't mean not real. It means representing a different reality.

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

Wrong! There is NO such thing as satan. Absolutely not! Anyone who thinks there is a non human spiritual being that is satan, IS NOT a Christian!

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@paulral ,...Repent of your fake christianity, both of you!

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@paulral ,...All you have done here is expose your complete Biblical illiteracy. None of these scriptures tells you that there is, nor are they referring to a non human spirit being. The fact is, they are all referring to those exactly like you who are Godless, spiritually dead, blind, lost, and deceived men (humans). There absolutely is no such thing as satan. If you or anyone else is so absolutely Biblically illiterate and totally deceived enough to think that there is a non human spirit being that is the devil/satan, then please show me where in the Bible we are told that God made a non human spirit being that is the devil/satan???? The fact is, you will never, find this! The 100% false manmade idea of there being a satan only comes from your antichrist christianity that is all nothing but unbiblical, manmade science fiction nonsense. Everything you believe and hold to is all unbiblical science fiction nonsense/ignorance. Repent! Oh, and I will be waiting?

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@paulral ,..Sadly you have only again exposed your complete Biblical illiteracy as well as your 100% fake christianity. Looking to anything other than the Bible for an understanding of the Bible is something only those who are Biblically illiterate and who are not Christian do. Doing this is 100% wrong! Lucifer is Jesus! Anyone who does not understand that Lucifer is Jesus understands nothing, and again, sadly, you are a perfect example of one who understands nothing. Ezekiel Ch. 28 is referring to Eve, and also to Adam, and to all mankind. It is NOT referring to your 100% fake manmade, unbiblical, science fiction fantasy spiritual boogieman satan!. Again, everything you have been indoctrinated to believe by the 100% apostate church is ALL unbiblical science fiction nonsense! Repent!!!

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@paulral @2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-wI did what you said and repented. Now what's the next step? Remember that whatever we do here blesses the Google KZbin algorithm before you answer.

[@EthanAndLacieBeetz]

The devil wants us to not believe the Bible literally and to believe science over Gods wird

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

There is NO such thing as the devil. Believing that there is a devil/satan is the very same thing as believing that the earth is the Godless worlds graven image of their 100% fake spinning ball (baal). Both are nothing but science fiction fantasy.

[@jamescummings6703]

Satan is a servant of God, he acts as the accuser, prosecutor, or obstacle to test mans loyalty to God. He does nothing on his own, he does what God allows him to do. You will never find Satan doing anything evil in the bible EVER..... You will NEVER read about him falling from grace. To dispel this myth that Satan is evil and causes all of the evil on earth read 1 Samuel 16:14 and Isaiah 45:7. Nothing and no one can oppose God.

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

You, like just about everyone else here have spoken absolute unbiblical nonsense. There is NO satan!

[@jamescummings6703]

@@mrs.ogbuagu I thought Revelation was prophecy for the end times? If it is then that hasn't happened yet. In fact his rebellion isn't until Revelation either, so how exactly did he get put out of heaven and is wreaking havoc if the end times haven't occured yet?

[@jamescummings6703]

@@mrs.ogbuagu You're telling me all of these references from the fairytale book. Murderer since the beginning? Who did he murder? Who did he decieve? Satan is mentioned an entire 9 times in the Tanakh (Old Testament) and not one of those mentions is he murdering, stealing, destroying or any of that. Nowhere in any bible, no matter the translation does it say the Serpent was Satan, that's Christian folklore. What offspring does Satan have for their heads to be crushed? Why would God punish the serpent for what "Satan" did? Furthermore Satan is used only once as a being, and that's in the book of Job. The rest of the time it is used as a plain old word. In Numbers 22:22 It says a messenger of Yod hey vav hey took positing in his way as an adversary. The hebrew word for adversary is satan. 1 Samuel 29, the Philistines called David their adversary (Satan), lastly Joshua was standing before the angel of yod hey vav hey and the Accuser (Satan). I never said he was an ally, I said he was a servant.

[@2ndPeterCh.2-qt5dw]

@@jamescummings6703 ,...The FACT is, there is no such thing as satan! The words devil/satan refer ONLY to Godless mankind. What must be understood is that ALL of the people of ALL of the churches are ALL completely Biblically illiterate, and are ALL 100% outside of the kingdom of God. They are ALL the devil/satan. They are the serpent, the dragon, and the beast. God did not make anything but humans and all of the worlds of the Bible refer only to Godless mankind. The entire church is all 100% apostate and has nothing whatsoever to do with God, Jesus, the truth, the gospel, nor the Christianity of the Bible. It is all a Godless abomination and is completely desolate.

[@danemiljoshua]

3:16 Zoroastrianism

[@EthanAndLacieBeetz]

Till the 1500s and the enlightenment period We knew earth was flat from the Bible’s description but of creation, we can’t just pick what we take literally and figuratively unless it poetry and even poetry is filled with truth

[@EthanAndLacieBeetz]

Not to mention nasa means to deceive in hebrew

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@EthanAndLacieBeetz ,...Of course, the earth is a flat stationary plane. NO Christian believes that the earth is anything other than the flat stationary plane the Bible clearly tells us it is. Anyone believing anything else is NOT a Christian!

[@EthanAndLacieBeetz]

The whore of babelon is Jerusalem and was judged in 70 ad

[@EthanAndLacieBeetz]

And the beast was judged in 536 ad. Look it up

[@dr_that_guy]

Would be easier if you paste a link.

[@EthanAndLacieBeetz]

@@dr_that_guy If u just look up 536 ad the worst year in history there are documented famines all over the world,, most fish of the sea and animals dying and 18 months of complete darkness, and that is when the Roman Empire fell

[@2ndTimothyCh.2-24-2-w]

@@EthanAndLacieBeetz ,...Wrong! Repent of all your unbiblical nonsense and of your fake christianity!