The Reason Gigs Are So BLOODY Expensive

The American Department of Justice are seeking to break up Ticketmaster and Live Nation to try and make gigs cheaper. How did Ticketmaster gain such a grip on the music industry, and if the DOJ are successful what could it mean for live music in the UK?
Loaded magazine is back... Richard and Marina trace it's history and that of 'lad's mags'. Is there a bloodline to today's toxic masculinity?
Finally, we have our hands on the second viewing data dump from Netflix and it has sparked a possible billion-dollar idea from Richard!
01:29 The monopoly suit against Ticketmaster
02:38 How Ticketmaster make their money?
10:01 Why are American’s flying over to Europe to see Taylor Swift?
17:33 The return of Loaded Magazine
24:36 How misogyny crept into Magazine culture
28:52 How will the revival go?
33:45 Netflix’s new viewing figures
35:20 Netflix’s TV show figures
38:02 Is it better to open on Netflix or in the cinema?
39:51 Netflix film figures: why do the more ‘prestige’ movies flop?
42:37 Hollywood Animated Movies: the Bankers
44:23 Christmas films and Richard’s billion dollar idea
46:22 How Netflix pay their creators
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[@keithtracy3316]

As someone who goes to over 100 gigs a year I find the £2.50 e-ticket an unacceptable addition.

[@PrivateVoid1]

Same. Also not being able to buy tickets for different gigs in the same transaction is bloody annoying.

[@R.Daneel]

I'm waiting to be asked for a tip at checkout.

[@simonmeadows7961]

​@@R.Daneel The next level is for the tip to be added automatically and you have to pay an admin fee to opt out of it.

[@gymnosophy]

If you can afford to go to 100 gigs a year, I have little sympathy for you

[@rikardottosson1272]

Ticketmaster charge weird fees from the band as well. ”why am I paying a ‘merch fee’ when I made the merch, stocked the stand and my sister is doing all the sales?!?” a band complained.

[@pd4165]

It's rental for the area your trestle table takes up, that they couldn't otherwise monetise.

[@smileydaveuk]

This show is now an integral part of my week

[@mikelbentube]

Whenever i bought a ticket, it said "not for resale" on the back. It's a condition of purchase and has almost never been enforced. The solution is not hard. In 2003/4/5ish Glastonbury sold out in about five seconds and loads of tickets immediately appeared on eBay. Glastonbury cancelled them, refunded the money and resold them. The next year you had to register to be able to buy a ticket. Id and a maximum of 2 tickets per purchase. It was a pain, but it worked. The main problem was groups of 4 or 6 trying to get tickets and only getting 2 or 4 before they sold out

[@Sarah-jd7zv]

Hi Marina, professional animator and I wanted to mention something. As it stands and even with improvements and developments in the next five years, there is no way an entire feature length animated film realistically could be made by AI. Used to further help production? Absolutely But replacing an work force? Impossible. I think it shows people do not know what people who work on an animated film do because to be fair it's a totally insulated industry. We don't just design the characters and type it all into a computer and the computer 'makes it all happen'. People logically know that but don't know where the line ends with 'computer does the rest'. Safe to say, the computer is like Microsoft word, it doesn't type out the novel for you. You have to manually do it all yourself. (Sometimes you have to make an entire alphabet from scratch.) To compare it to a film set, AI could do lots of things but it currently does not have the ability to do it 'correctly'. It can describe how it wants a costume to look but it can't sew it can it? No, but if it could, the actual costume itself might be mixing several wrong periods of dress together. or the sleeves might be the wrong size causing the actor to not be able to raise their arms. This is what using AI in animation is like. It would take more work to fix its mess. Naive executives often think this and if AI is used yeah that's a bad thing for everyone, the audience, animators, and eventually the executives who'll have to scramble to get everyone back. It's not like they're short on people there's a lot of unemployment in the industry right now. Pixar the other week have fired employees who have been there for 15 years, companies are becoming more and more souless.

[@archwombat9250]

I think the worry is not that AI will be able to animate a movie like humans but that it will be able to animate a movie. We will then be dished up a load of generic rubbish without nuance or soul and that sort of thing will become the typical animated movie. That will leave a lot less work for the true animators, leading to a brain drain and a loss of skills so when eventually someone does decide to fund a decent animated movie produced by humans the talent will have drained away. Edit: I should have mentioned. I’m an Architect and felt very safe for a long time. Not any more. I think in ten years if you don’t really understand architecture as a client you will be able to get AI to create a generic building. It will be ‘painting by numbers’ but it will be a building - a bit like what the big house builders churn out, same house regardless of the site, orientation, local vernacular. The result of this will be that the professional only exists for the odd special commission. An Oligarchs new mansion, a Corporate Headquarters or perhaps a new Opera House. But every block of flats, school, house, hospital, retail park will go AI.

[@Sarah-jd7zv]

​@@archwombat9250Fully agree with you, and you're right they could do most creative careers but not be able to have anything be truly unique and especially for architecture, fit for each buildings individual purpose

[@hannahk1306]

Instead of capping resale prices, why not just kill the market and ban resales? You should only be able to gift the tickets or sell them back to the venue for the price you paid (minus any admin fees). Those two options should suit everyone who genuinely doesn't want their tickets anymore, but will have no interest to those who are solely looking to make a profit out of reselling.

[@cantgoslow]

Poor 'Fred Olsen' not hurting anyone, selling tickets for his cruise ships, must be gutted to now be confused with 'Fred Ronsen' the evil CEO behind Ticketmaster😮

[@dougsims4242]

God i love this Podcast. Hosted by two smart , charming and funny Presenters answering questions i didnt realise i desperately wanted to know the answers to. ps my partner just bought me the whole Thursday Murder Club book series for my 67th Birthday. What a great read. I cannot wait for the movie. pps does anybody out there know if Ron is being played by Pierce Brosnan or Jim Broadbent? Ive read conflicting reports ( either would be fabulous)

[@euansmith3699]

"Pierce Brosnan or Jim Broadbent" that's a lovely, spectrum to choose from; both are excellent actors in their wonderfully different ways. I tear up just thinking about Broadbent in "Topsy-Turvy".

[@dannyquinn9128]

It's definitely Pierce.

[@dougsims4242]

​@@dannyquinn9128thank you so much. I thought it was. I saw an article saying Jim Broadbent and wondered if Pierce had pulled out. Clearly it was just wrong. I think Jim may have been a fan choice, but as I read I can definitely see Pierce doing a great job. Thanks again.👍

[@dannyquinn9128]

@@dougsims4242 no worries, I was convinced Ron was going to be played by Ray Winstone before the announcement.

[@dougsims4242]

​@@dannyquinn9128 wow actually that would have been a great choice too

[@stephenbarrette610]

Ticketmaster is the real world equivalent to EvilCorp. The cost of seeing my musical heroes in the 70’s and 80’s compared to now is insane. The time counter is so stressful to get the payment through, I’ve not been to a gig for about 5 years, getting old now…. But I assume it’s still there. And the concept of increasing prices prices based on demand is wrong. I saw Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band in the 80s for about 10 quid now it’s in the hundreds of pounds or more. Just ridiculous and wrong. Great podcast as always.

[@jakobthelibrarycard6261]

I'm a fan of The Boss and as much as I would give my right arm to see him live I decided against it as he engaged in dynamic pricing on his European tour last year. When quizzed about it by a journo he feigned innocence and then suggested that all artists do it. Fair enough then Mr Springsteen, gotta keep the wolf from the door and all. His fan run website was shut down by the volunteers that ran it in protest.

[@stephenbarrette610]

@@jakobthelibrarycard6261 I’ve grown up with Bruce since about 1978, we are about the same age and he’s a good decent person, but I couldn’t understand that particular comment. I’ve been to dozens of concerts and had some of the most fun times at a gig. I was going to go but stuff dynamic pricing. I paid £8 to see him in 1981 and about £60 in the mid-2000’s for an an all day festival in Hyde Park in London with other really good bands and it was great, (Bruce and the E Street played for 3 hours 15 mins or so) To quote Elton I believe “it’s a sad sad situation“.

[@Mrmayhembsc]

The last tickets I got via Ticketmaster had fees of an additional 20% of the final ticket price. They are screwing over fans left, right, and centre. I'm glad Labour has the policy, which some of us have been lobbying for for well over 10 years now.

[@davidburne9477]

Exclusive venue deals are, by their very nature, anti-competitive. These vertically-integrated companies are an example of the corporate greedscam - they take what looks like reasonable margin at every step, ending in massive rip-offs of the consumer by the time all the mark-ups accumulate. Breaking them up would be a godsend.

[@abigegg1004]

Everyone: Why are companies charging so much for tickets, its not fair, why are they doing it!?? Marina: i bought tickets from a touting site for 10x the ticket value!

[@ChrisP3000x]

Because people pay it. Saved you 50 mins. There is nothing else to it.

[@Cchogan]

Live pitch? Dragons Den for films. Movie makers pitch to five movie moguls…. I’d watch it.

[@HjRobins]

there was a horrible histories sketch like that where historical figures pitched their lives to film moguls

[@archwombat9250]

I’d watch it too. But you know you would see the winning pitch get really excited, then 5 years later it would be released and you would discover it had been watered down into some generic pile of poo.

[@transistorbassman]

The Cure managed to get Ticketmaster to issue refunds and lower the fees for their US tour in 2023. This is was after complaints from fans. The band had kept ticket prices down, and in some cases, Ticketmaster's were more than the price of the ticket.

[@chrisc_1012]

Ticketmaster in and of itself isn't the problem the problem was the merger between Ticketmaster and Live Nation. This should never have been allowed to happen and it is anti-consumer, because it it doesn't just control a portion of one sector of the market, it controls a large share of the vertical market Where the emerged company is adding cost at multiple levels which shows in the final ticket price

[@NinaGray-eq9on]

It's live nation who introduced inflated prices for golden circles, this used to be an award for getting to a venue early. I was at RHCP gig in Manchester in 2022, first time not in golden circle (though was at the barrier for the general access area), as won't pay inflated prices for the privilege and saw people in the golden circle who clearly for the prestige of being in that area and were more interested in their food and drink rather than the band. It needs to return to golden circles being for those passionate enough to get there early, as this shows and affects the interaction with the crowd for the better.

[@snadlg]

“Leave the World Behind” was so bad that it made me angry.

[@glitterfulspace]

ok but can someone on this earth explain to me why like in 2016 i could buy a ticket really close to the stage for £35 but that same ticket now is "02 priority seats" or something at like over £200? they come up with a fee for wanting to breathe in the venue. lets not even get into accessibility and disability seats. then, why are these companies alllowing the bots to buy and resell for even more? the bots aren't going give these companies their 70% share.

[@AndyMillerPhotoUK]

In the old days, when I was young, gigs were about selling albums; but now in the age of streaming and file sharing gigs have become one of the main sources of income for artists these days. The base cost for gigs has to be higher when it was when this cost was subsidised by marketing budgets. No more. YES - ticketmaster and also ticket buying agencies/scalping bots have driven tick prices up enormously. So kill off ticketmaster - BUT - what would replace this. Demand vastly outweighs supply. Every artist and venue has to sell tickets online - some party has to play this role. Every venue or ????

[@callumrobinson4137]

I bloody love that jacket!

[@poeiabird]

Some Americans are fine with limits on how much they can sell their tickets for. New York has scalping laws. In addition to restrictions on how close to the venue you can resell tickets, the maximum price is $5 or 10% above the face value of the ticket (whichever is higher).

[@CulturePhilter]

Re: Loaded. Their target audience is the people who read the original? I used to buy Loaded and FHM as a teenager in the late 90s… I wouldn’t even consider picking them up now.

[@duncanpaton7344]

Heard Kid Rock bought a venue outright himself, stocked the place with his food and alcohol then charged a discounted rate for tickets and still made a fortune! But he is sick of the venues and ticket master charging the fans ridiculous amounts to go to gigs

[@jeffparker1617]

NPR's planet money did a podcast on tickets and he also only sells first couple rows to fan club members as he was sick of men in suits sitting there bored with their "nieces" next to them.

[@finneganwoolley6557]

Vis-a-vis '3 Body Problem', is the continuation of its telling anything to do with retaining the audience satisfaction of the relatively large group of Netflix patrons that did watch it and want to see how it ends?

[@peoplevrobot]

I have stopped going to concerts and just go to festivals instead. They are more affordable and the crowd is better. Taylor Swift, Springsteen, Coldplay, Beyonce, U2 … these are all artists that a lot of people can’t afford to go and see anymore. When did concerts become a luxury product?

[@CT99234]

When physical music sales fell off a cliff and music essentially became free. Artists now make most of their money from live perfemormances. Albums are now essentially adverts for a tour.

[@peoplevrobot]

@@CT99234 Yep Tech destroyed music

[@KristapsRr]

People should not only be talking about TM/LN shady practices, but also about how artists fleece their fans thru various VIP packages. Pay 2x, and get early access. Pay 3x and get early access + merch box. Pay 4x and get whatever else. Looking there at Taylor Swift and Rolling Stones specifically.

[@thomasdalton1508]

Taylor Swift could just put a zero on the end of all her ticket prices and would still sell out (we know that because large numbers of tickets sell on the secondary market at those prices). I don't think you can really complain about being fleeced when you are getting a 90% discount for no reason other than that she wants true fans to be able to attend.

[@dereklawson1318]

​@@thomasdalton1508 Interesting definition of 'discount' there!

[@andrewmontague9682]

The speed that films moves from cinemas to streaming is killing cinemas.

[@DrCalamityJan]

Marina is a master-class in how incredible it is to have an ADHD brain. Every day I thank my lucky stars that I was blessed with ADHD and people don't understand. Then along comes this incredible woman that validates the heck out of me! ❤

[@nickm8494]

ADHDers and Autists always end up being best mates.

[@DEM441]

Worth noting that one piece is based on a manga that has outsold batman and is the second biggest selling comic of all time behind only superman selling over 500million copies... So algorithm or not, its not a surprise that it is so big. The real surprise was that it is good

[@FarmerJAB]

Marina - stop interrupting!

[@jeffparker1617]

Seems like a reasonable law regulation to limit resale prices to x% above face; break them up from venue operation and ticket promotion seems like a good idea too.

[@andrewmclintock3974]

Would love to hear your predictions for this summer box office

[@ThisIsDicky]

I can't help but think artists see the mark up secondry sites make and they think that if people are willing to pay that much more than the original price then the original price should be higher. Why should resellers get the profit instead of the artist.

[@michaelrobson3460]

Good old fashioned ticket touts used to gough the seller before the buyer The only time I saw England play was a friendly against Brazil. I paid a tout face value and sat behind a good old fashioned wembley pillar so I saw next to nothing. Next time was a new order gig, again face value, without the booking fee, queuing insurance... I'm starting to see a way around this. I'm going to buy a raincoat and walk up and down queues saying "any tick-etza, any tick-etza"

[@michaelrobson3460]

So, the relaunch of loaded has pushed the eBay price of my original first edition up to somewhere between £18.50 and £29.99. I presume that's the same as the cover price of the relaunched version?

[@FarmerJAB]

The speed at which Marina speaks turned me off this episode - like listening to a verbal machine gun; bordering on painful. Richard even seemed to speed up his speech at times, maybe trying to get a word in or maybe to try to prevent Marina from constantly interrupting. Sadly, I lost interest and tolerance with this podcast (that I really loved previously).

[@kittycat604]

why do the audio versions of this get released before the video versions? I much prefer to watch the videos but usually I am too keen to know what is said

[@michaelrobson3460]

If there happens to be a problem with the fence? How do you work out who is responsible?

[@TeemoPwnstar]

I loved 3 body problem!

[@paulburner3817]

Oh you've made the mistake of confusing Loaded with the likes of FHM etc. There were far less women objectified than you remember and it's content was far more wordy than you seem to think. It was their quickly pulled together competition that went for the tabloid type content to the extreme.

[@ChrisBull-u3h]

I’m with you on that, at the very least in the early days. Some superb interviews made at a time when interviewees didn’t have some advisor lurking around ready to shut the whole thing down if something was said that went against the brand. Still remember the interview with a young Robbie Fowler and Steve McManaman which gave us a window into footballers unseen since The Glory Game. Loaded was a way better magazine than modern revisionism is giving it and James Brown really had his finger on the pulse. Its painted as though it was a magazine solely for people who couldn’t read and just spent their days on the piss and fingering missions but it really wasn’t the case at all The likes of FHM was seen as highbrow and they kind of sneered at Loaded because a third of its pages were just adverts for things no one could afford. Funny how they adapted the same kind of Loaded model though in a bid to capture its readership.

[@r3cy]

they did make the point that originally the writing was good, and nekkid women was lower priority than sport, tech etc. and that this changed over time, which it did.

[@mikebowers7161]

Marina, by the end of the podcasts, do your arms ache? I have NEVER seen anyone gesture as much as you since Magnus Pike!!

[@FarmerJAB]

It’s manic like the speed of her talking

[@RubbishGimpy]

3 Body Problem was one of Netflix's biggest shows of the year so far.

[@snackplaylove]

They can cap ticket profits at 10%, but doing it with homes would probably have more of an impact. I miss paying £3 at the venue to get in

[@dixieflatline1189]

Streaming services sucked all the artist money out of music. So artists started to make money by live events. So digital touts sucked all the money out of live events, while allowing scalpers to run rampant. Technology making things "easier for the consumer"........

[@ThisIsMeUK]

Honest Feedback: These ‘Premieres’ are so incredibly annoying. Most people I subscribe to have stopped using it tbh!

[@Zabzim]

I agree. Especially as they changed the day they released them

[@all-range-mode]

It's absolutely fine... The video goes live at a certain time. How is it annoying?

[@Zabzim]

@@all-range-mode because it 9am you know the time you’re supposed to be working

[@PrivateVoid1]

What an odd thing to get annoyed about.

[@ThisIsMeUK]

@@PrivateVoid1 When little things like this annoys you it can only be a good thing, because it means you have nothing big or important to worry or get annoyed about! 😀

[@thomasdalton1508]

The key point you didn't cover on ticket pricing is that the tickets for the really big shows (Taylor Swift in particular) are massively discounted from their fair market value. We know from the secondary market that people are willing to pay ten times face value for tickets. The artists could just add a zero to all their ticket prices, still sell out and make absolutely crazy money. They don't because they want real fans to be able to attend. It is ridiculous for people to be complaining about prices when they are getting a 90% discount from the fair market value. This, incidentally, is the proof that Ticketmaster is not setting the prices. They would obviously charge the full market value if it were up to them. The prices are being set by the artists.

[@MoonbeameSmith]

I remember when Scalping was illegal

[@sams-pg7hj]

the only thing that matters in the Ticketmaster thing is that Ticketmaster is owned by liberty, liberty owns F1and f1 has illegally denied Andretti entry. if Ticketmaster loses, liberty is in trouble with f1

[@nickm8494]

The only thing I remember from my Economics GCSE is "price elasticity of demand" and I feel compelled to say it out loud whenever the opportunity arises; the same applies to seeing a Chinook helicopter.

[@acdcsg1]

I was lucky to acdc tickets at release for £145. The next day my mate went to get some they were £399 which is just obscene markup

[@gtc9966]

Dads-Mag. Kinda love it. Not gonna sell, but kinda love it.

[@cybergornstartrooper2157]

Two shows a week is not enough

[@kieron_matthews]

Kind of think that the artist is in control of the experience they give their fans. Small gig options on the tour run are a welcome addition. Seeing rolling stones at Brixton academy Vs Twickenham was like chalk and cheese.

[@michaelrobson3460]

Christmas movies start on cable in August.

[@cadkoger]

Ya'll keep giving away these million-dollar ideas. First "Close Work" and now "Eggnog."

[@sasaki_on_aoba]

absolutely love Mariana’s take on all things wether it be entertainment or politics… But for FS give the bashing of The Fall Guy a rest for a week or two! Puleeeeze

[@michaelrobson3460]

Point of order. Gary Oldman was the original cover girl of loaded.

[@NinaGray-eq9on]

Robbie Williams and Metallica have been complicit in inflated resale.

[@finneganwoolley6557]

Be interested to know how Louis CK is going with his ticketing. As I understand it, he sells most of his concert tickets, as well as access to merch and streaming content, through his emailing list

[@charlesripper2978]

Due to TM total control and questionable tactics to sell at higher prices I have given up on going to live concerts. Stick to local bands and local venues .

[@KristineMaitland]

I'm with you. As a jazz and blues singer returning to the industry I prefer in the intimacy of a small venue. Cheers from Toronto, Canada 🇨🇦 👍

[@euansmith3699]

Cover bands are often better entertainment than the originals. The venues are smaller, there is less queuing to arrive and leave, and they play the hits. 😎👍

[@RubbishGimpy]

And a local shop for local people.

[@pd4165]

@@RubbishGimpy If you live in Hadfield/Padfield.

[@RubbishGimpy]

@@pd4165 Royston Vasey

[@artiezonk]

Perhaps I'm too impatient and you will mention it but Pearl Jam tried to go against Ticketmaster in the 90s but clearly didn't work out. Edit: yep too impatient

[@MK-rt2gm]

Prices get to high boycott your artist to put pressure on Ticket Master. No talent is worth those high prices. SAD for parents

[@markricketts5282]

Lornyette is my favourite new word of the week, thanks Marina

[@rikardottosson1272]

If ticket prices were correct, there would be no room for scalpers. Gervais has figured it out, and raised prices on popular seats and made them expensive enough that there is no room for scalpers to make money.

[@JonCoupland]

It's Friday. Where's my Q&A 😭

[@LoudMinded]

Since "Country house" was mentioned, wanted to ask what Richard and Marina think of Damien Hirst? That a douchey bloke like him is so widely celebrated seems to be just another example of the many injustices in the world.

[@sarahdisco-dolly1150]

If Furiosa is so good....what has Mad Max got to do with it?

[@shondellsb604]

Loaded is coming back?! Well well... :)

[@lukesmith5018]

Are you ever going to do a crossover episode with the rest is politics?

[@caesarvolz6945]

45:07 .... Richard pretends he's not a millionaire.

[@Wunderpantz]

Don’t knock them Richard, I first met my mother at a bikini range.

[@silgo7923]

Ticketmaster….aaargh their customer help is atrocious!! Trying to get a straight answer for a simple question is beyond me.

[@sandramckeehan5679]

Try making a really good Christmas movie and see what happens. People watch what they can get.

[@billythedog-309]

l had to pay 60p to see Led Zeppelin in 1971 and they only played for two and a half hours. Outrageous!

[@stephenbarrette610]

I think I paid about two or three quid to see Pink Floyd in 1972. Never saw Zeppelin, big regret in my life!

[@justnski]

why do all these daughters have such bad taste in music? they need to be flown to Europe to see TS?

[@sl1msn1per]

Event tickets are a very straightforward supply-demand problem. There are simply way more willing punters then there are seats and dates available. If one decides to set the prices low and somehow manages to largely eliminate scalping, then either the tickets are going to all go almost immediately, or one has to have a kind of lottery system. The alternative is to raise the price to lower demand (and also potentially incentivize the artist to tour more and increase supply). There's just no way some people aren't going to be disappointed. The real hopeful good outcome of pushing on Ticketmaster is that they also have the effect of suppressing which artists play at venues. It would be better to let the venues have more flexibility.

[@mikelbentube]

I kever liked touts.... but at least they were getting wet if it was raining and lost money if the show didn't sell out...ebay started fucking everything up and it's gone downhill since then

[@euansmith3699]

Politics is everything, and everything is politics; the rest is entertainment.

[@FarmerJAB]

Sadly, this is the second consecutive episode that I’ve found boring. The Ticketmaster topic didn’t interest me and I’m not really interested in listening to Marina go on and on.

[@giffgaffnettwork5626]

Before you ask about exorbitant tickets, discuss home energy prices, which are not optional. You can miss a concert but winter heating is compulsory.

[@DavidASullivan-i5n]

Not really ‘entertainment’ is it…

[@Neddoest]

Why should they? You must be thinking of “The Rest Is Socioeconomics.” Wrong channel.

[@grammapolice]

10 minutes of Ticketmaster/Live Nation monopoly discussion, but you guys talk about as if Taylor Swift is the only musical act on the planet. - missing the entire focus of the FTC’s case. I like this podcast normally, but it’s also a real let down when these two let their neoliberal ultra capitalist ideology seep out. You should occasionally talk to people outside of your economic class.

[@robCaB]

Could you please, please, please squeeze in some more adverts please? Cheers

[@johnthekeane]

Monopoly+extortion=Ticketbastard

[@zakharov7953]

It's easy to say "if it weren't for the scalpers, I'd be paying a lot less for these tickets", but more often it's actually "if it weren't for the scalpers, I wouldn't have a ticket at all". The thing scalpers do is move tickets from enthusiastic fans to rich fans, and take a big cut in the process.

[@euansmith3699]

The first gig Ticketmaster handled was ELO, eh? That was some blue-sky thinking.

[@stephenbarrette610]

Ho ho - very very good! I don’t think my hearing has ever recovered from the London Olympia concert, it was so loud but very good. Just kidding but it took about three days.

[@johnmckenzie4639]

That's MR. Blue Sky to you. 😊

[@tomwoodcraft_gfx]

very interesting,! one note, people definitely say Ariana is an arsehole....

[@RubbishGimpy]

Sort of related, £10 on top if you want your ticket it in paper format. EF That. Historic music scrapbox's are going exstinct.

[@joyparhamgillespie8554]

Sorry did Marina have too much caffeine before this podcast? I'm having a hard time following any of her lines of thought. 😅 But then I am American and haven't had enough caffeine yet 😂

[@bm8641]

Go watch Trump mate. Better suited. Speaks slower. Few words. Can't miss anything he says. Very American. Gotta be proud.

[@FarmerJAB]

I wondered if she was on something!

[@joyparhamgillespie8554]

@@bm8641 I'm not that kind of American

[@paulburner3817]

This episode was worse than usual I agree. Almost impossible to watch due to this I found.

[@enisra_bowman]

@@bm8641proud of being a Nazi?

[@derronhall495]

Just don't go to concerts. New music sucks anyway.

[@timwilks666]

Loaded magazine was ace, for a couple of years anyway. eg. Crisp World Cup. Once the tits overwhelmed the humour it lost its way.

[@paulburner3817]

I think it started to decline when the writers became the story. Overly long features on a wacky trip taken by writers I could not give 2 sh!ts about was the turn off for me.

[@Zabzim]

It’s little wonder Mad Max Furiosa did so poorly in opening weekend. The film doesn’t contain mad max!

[@davidbartle7169]

I disagree about the bloodline theory, narrative is wrong and especially when it is so couched, may as well support trump if that is all you have to offer

[@dibdab101]

welcome to another edition of The Rest Is Capitalism

[@paulburner3817]

Constructive feedback. Less coffee beforehand perhaps

[@samhughes9631]

Check your description folks, it's 'its', not 'it's'.

[@tretchikoff2498]

Trump supporters! You really went there ??? 🤔

[@pd4165]

Low hanging fruit.

[@akokow]

It's called Anime Richard.

[@RubbishGimpy]

Manga is all Japanese comic based media and is more accurate to use for One Peice becuase its originally a 'manga' comic. Its 80 and 90's referenced instead of Anime which is primarily associated with animation of today.

[@LiamStafford-p3f]

Oh my god! Listening to Marina talk is maddening. All the asides, stream of consciousness side stories and attempts at snide humor makes it incredibly hard to follow her points. Does she ever watch her performances back? Her crazy rant starting at 10:04 is particularly manic. Like listening to a coke head discuss ticket prices.

[@keithsquawk]

So Richards snide remarks and the rest are Ok by you? Ok, hun.

[@christophernicolson5086]

It just looks like vanilla ADHD to me.

[@snackplaylove]

@@christophernicolson5086Yup - it’s just me when I care about something 😂

[@FarmerJAB]

Well said. Wondering if I can be bothered with this podcast - she’s doing my head in

[@paulburner3817]

Imagine the work her editor has to do on her newspaper articles and books!

[@JorWat25]

I'm British, and even I don't say 'Gen Zed'... EDIT: She didn't even say 'Gen Zed', it was 'Gen Zed-ers'. Just say 'Zoomers' like a normal person.

[@PrivateVoid1]

I'm British and I do say Gen Zed. Saying Zee just sounds weird to me.

[@ChrisBull-u3h]

I know saying ‘Zee’ feels odd to an English tongue but at the same time I’ve never known anyone to refer to Jay Z as Jay Zed. It would be fun if we started though.

[@PrivateVoid1]

@@ChrisBull-u3h Not sure if you remember the Mark and Lard radio 1 show but they always referred to Jay Z as Jay Zed. 😂