How MY Music ended up in a Hit Indie Game

[@cashman0604two]

Therm: "I dont know music theory" Therm: Proceeds to use the entirety of Music Theory 1 & 2 to explain it

[@rosiebuzzard4111]

Lol

[@samsemy6825]

self taught people are very often some of the most interesting skilled people. Even tho he hasn't learned music, years of trial and error has developed not just his own style, but his own workflow that was made entirely to fit said style, it's exactly those type of people that can just do batshit crazy things without really thinking about it because they're not bound by the norm.

[@jenskjeld6808]

@@samsemy6825 kind of like some of the Beatles

[@cool_person_i_be]

@@jenskjeld6808 cool

[@Salterisks]

@@samsemy6825 it's like toby fox! He makes all of his game music without having any schooling to actually make music based on music theory. A lot of his music is toned at a half step (think: fallen down from the undertale OST) so the actual playing of it on an instrument like a piano doesn't actually hit the right notes exactly, but it's still a phenomenal sound track that people still love and listen to nowadays

[@Rikrobat]

"I'm the least creative person in the world" while explaining his absolutely amazing creative process. We adore you, Therm-thank you for taking the time to share this with us!

[@sllimjimsinkhole]

As a musician who struggles with producing, I love these videos! They make me realize it's not about experience, it's just about having fun and making cool stuff.

[@sllimjimsinkhole]

Also which DAW are you using?

[@loleder]

DAW was fl studio and I totally agree with you as a fellow musician

[@sllimjimsinkhole]

@@loleder Thank you!!

[@loriellerobidas2037]

They make me realize it's not about experience, it's just about ICarly.

[@Teaca444]

@@sllimjimsinkhole i use LMMS, due to me living in Brazil, not like FL studio is banned here but it is VEEEERRRYYY expencive. But i can agree with you.

[@monsterfukk7737]

12:00 the chord progression you're talking about where you replace the minor root chord with a major chord is called a "Picardy Third" progression, and it is indeed insanely satisfying.

[@wires22]

reminds me of touhou

[@brandiganBTW]

i put this song on repeat for my 3 mile jog... next thing i knew, i had run 25 miles and needed a ride back home

[@ThermChannel]

Well that just seems irresponsible of you, and I don't appreciate that you're implying that it's my fault due to the sick quality of my jams

[@Syonico]

@@ThermChannel lmfao

[@Inkspeed]

Honestly that jogging trance thing has screwed me over too many times lol, I just can't stop schmoovin when the sick beats are on

[@snow799]

Where did bro find the music 💀

[@ok-__]

where can i listen to it

[@lenabeans]

As someone who majors in Music theory and has been studying it for over a decade, people like you will never cease to amaze me!!! This track is incredible! You keep saying you're not very experienced or knowledgeable but when listening to the finished project you can't tell at all! The key you chose is fantastic and the way the tempo flows with your choice of melody? It's absolutely amazing! I myself have a hard time composing from scratch, so this is very impressive!!

[@VanessaDMusic]

Agreed completely

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Shows how much music depends on just doing it. Experience comes with, well, experience.

[@red.laser.]

I mean I'm just like 15 years old and I have no experience with music theory and I'm meh at music.

[@ChronoMune]

Hold up you studied theory for over a decade and still have trouble starting a composition 😳 that’s discouraging for people like me who are trying to learn theory to get better lol

[@ChronoMune]

Also why do you have zero music on your channel 🥲 I wanna hear some of your stuff

[@SolarBlademaster]

You're totally right in that it doesn't sound like something that's from the regular Stardew OST, but that doesn't make it not amazing! The song gives me such Shovel Knight vibes, it's incredible.

[@MILL1PEDE]

it does remind me of shovel knight! (which therm should try playing on the channel!)

[@guarinagarcia2424]

maybye just shapes and beats

[@nexusprodigal1028]

Jacksab

[@kyzroen0867]

I was thinking shovel knight too! The shovel knight soundtrack is such a banger.

[@stephanieroch6838]

this is so cool! I majored in music in college and am now a music teacher, and this genuinely made me SO happy to watch. some of the things you're doing in this song are things we talked about in my college level music theory classes, so writing something like this is no small feat. you clearly have really good ears and I'm excited to listen to other music you compose! will you be composing themes for the other bosses in the roguelike mod as well?

[@ThePinkRebel]

to be fair. there was some dissonance in a few note choices

[@ThePinkRebel]

specifically referring to the c# in 14:00

[@NepheneeGyattRizz]

@@ThePinkRebel dissonance isn't a bad thing

[@ThePinkRebel]

@@NepheneeGyattRizz i know its not a bad thing. and ive experimented with it my self. its not typically a popular choice. overall yes the guy did an amazing job. and no dissonance isnt bad. but it can be if used incorrectly

[@jaboobiedicimenez2088]

@@ThePinkRebel the C# used in the melody is over an amaj. he's playing the third which is one of the least dissonant notes in that chord scale. the dissonance is probably due to the instrument he's using having a chorus type effect, but dissonance is very popular in almost every style of music (if you look at any dominant chord they have a b5 interval which is seen as one of the most dissonant). Even when looking at how our instruments are tuned in western music, because of just intonation, every note is out of key by at least a few cents, just for the sake of making all 12 keys retain similar relationships to each other regardless of your root.

[@rainiedash9225]

I’m not an expert at making music: proceeds to make fantastic bops on free websites that take the internet and gaming world by storm.

[@thatweirddragon]

FL Studio isn't free, but making such bops while "Not an expert" is amazing If using paid stuff or not!

[@crobodile]

Idk why he would say free website when he is literally using the most expensive daw on the market

[@omniscientomnipresent5500]

@@thatweirddragon in music if you can get good result by a process, it doesn't matter what process it is!

[@ArmadilloJohn]

@@crobodile trial version is unlimited. Just has a bit less features.

[@bernossi5185]

@@crobodile why would fl studio be the most expensive daw on the market tho?

[@hidiego_]

I actually am in college and majoring in music production, and ive been producing for 5+ years. if you said you were doing the same i would've believed you instantly, great job!!

[@aaronkruk8529]

What kind of stuff do you produce?

[@maggiem3807]

I don’t know anything about making music but these videos are super fun to watch! :)

[@zachandrews5]

so tru tho

[@teally-bop]

saaame

[@KaminPROD]

Maybe its a sign for you. Try giving music production a try🤞🏻

[@robotninjago]

Fr I agree

[@djdog120]

I love how Therm isn’t pressured to do only one type of video if he doesn’t want to. Like when he started uploading Wobbledogs people loved it. He makes great videos that aren’t only good, but funny, too. I do want to see more music content from him C:

[@robotninjago]

Me too 😎🔥

[@drd3athdeftying]

Your music content is always incredible!! It's so cool that your music made it into the roguelike mod!!

[@darkon2233]

24:22 for anyone that wants to replay the song

[@SiegeBees]

Thank you! Was looking for this comment

[@ZappyBloomMAIN]

Thank you so much.

[@ZappyBloomMAIN]

@@SiegeBees same

[@imparkub]

Thanks

[@keifujimi]

Listening to you be excited about not being perfect is so wholesome. Being self taught is inspiring! And the song sounds amazing!

[@Wickedy]

Amazing! I loved watching your process, and this song is definitely going to be playing on repeat in my head for a while. soooo good

[@robotninjago]

Amazing? More like Wicked… ahem nevermind

[@ArgonMatrix]

Really cool getting to see the creative process you use for making music! Even for someone who has little to no clue about music like me, the passion and experience were enthralling enough to keep me engaged. Not to mention that the song itself SLAPS. I want to do another run right now just to hear it in-game, haha. Awesome stuff!!

[@exyl_sounds]

4:52 "Now the main issue is, these sound like doodoo, and don't fit with the sounds at all" story of my life :D

[@Kervati]

Damn this is a effing bop! You should make more things like this this was awesome! Don't ever be scared to do this again you propably will get mostly good feedback,i Hope

[@conedson]

Therm: "It's very messy." Me: "This is one of the cleanest FL sessions I've ever seen, what is he talking about?" As a music professional I must say that not only was this track pleasing to look at, it was an excellent tutorial about sound design, & songwriting. Like & Sub from me 👌🏼

[@ratchetdnb9554]

Clean af, all my projects look like someone dropped his sample bucket 😂

[@Jmsums]

YES He authentically figured out the Picardy Third! (making the minor chord at the end of a phrase major) Absolutely one of my favorite things to use when a song gets a little too dark. Fantastic job!

[@zoruasnivy]

As someone with zero music education who is interested in making music, this is super inspirational! Your music sounds great

[@arumpaldea]

You may not be a professional but you are definitely talented! Great job :)

[@mythsanimations3733]

I've never played stardew valley, but if i'm honest, it sounds like a modded boss on terraria, which is really cool to me! even if you don't know how to exactly create music, several people including me really enjoy both watching you create and show off this sort of thing! i would love to see more videos with you messing around with chords in the future :D

[@ladyravendale1]

Especially with the breakdown and then the choir, it really reminds me of Scourge of the Universe

[@itsvioneko]

@@ladyravendale1 I was thinking the exact same thing lol

[@YourLocalGP8]

I love the music making videos! If you enjoy making them, please make more! Thanks Therm!

[@KeaneJ123]

0:01 You just exactly described how I make music, I don't know music theory, I don't have a keyboard, I use free plugins and I just click around until I find something that sounds good This is way better than what I'll ever make tho

[@daboim]

You again

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

same, I'm just clicking around, finding stuff I like, sometimes importing some midi to see how those songs have done things, and generlly going by feeling.

[@Treble_V2]

Then there's me, who has a keyboard (tho it's a cheap $40 one off amazon) and have studied music theory most of my life and am never satisfied with what I make lol

[@pan1884]

I know you said this isn't a tutorial but, like. You really, really know what you're doing (even if its "I just played with it until it sounded good", that's still a valid method of Doing Things™), and this is probably the only music production-related video I've actually sat and watched instead of skipping around to find the parts I'm interested in. So I feel like if you DID try to do a few tutorials, you'd make some really, really good ones. And on that note, as someone who wants to start dipping their toes into making BGMs and the like, a lot of this is incredibly helpful!! Thank you!

[@MatthewMcCleskey]

This video goes so hard holy moly

[@gavingnorton]

Therm: " I am not a professional" me: Having his song for a ringtone for almost a year now

[@emily3756]

As a musician who has briefly worked with music producing software, I think it’s so awesome what you created by just messing around with the software 😊 it’s such a hard thing to do, but this sounds FANTASTIC!! I love the hard work and dedication you put into this, because I know this probably took many, many days to put together! Keep it up!!!

[@-.Asher.-]

Yo dude that’s really cool!! Your music sounds really really cool, I’d love to hear more of it :)

[@IoveKai]

his like work flow physically hurts me

[@cozycasbee]

Watching the progress of how you put together this epic ditty was fascinating. I don't know if you plan on making more music for the mod, but I would love to watch more! Super fun watch!

[@TrideGD]

Hey can you please make more music so that you can make videos on it because the music is fire and the videos are fire, good job dude!

[@ducks125]

Yooo didn't expect to see you here

[@cecilofthesea]

ough therm this is SUCH a banger... can't wait to listen to it on repeat for the next week

[@kronux3831]

What’s really cool about this is that the creator of Stardew Valley did the music for it as well, and he also claims to not really be a composer. Pretty neat that you both share a similar background here lol

[@synd9554]

The thing i love the most about this guy is that he does thing the way he likes, and my respect to that is not measureable.

[@XEAZUR]

as a producer this is so fun to see a lot of my favourite yters starting to produce

[@danilocardoso1460]

Leaving here my humble plead for a Spotify upload of this absolute bop of a banger

[@lyds5464]

Seconding this plead

[@Saladbucket]

Cool song! I’ve been making music on my phone. Glad to see someone else just having fun making music

[@-Falcn]

I'm a music student and I think this is very impressive and is much better than what half my class can produce.

[@jesterday3965]

YES YES YES THESE ARE SO INTERESTING AND YOUR MUSIC SLAPS

[@baacloud]

You may not call this a tutorial but it actually really helps me out. I've been making sheet music because using software always seemed pricey and overwhelming, always looked way too professional. Your breakdown of making this theme makes stepping out of my comfort zone with music creation look a lot more manageable, so you have my humble thanks

[@Sinister_Illusion]

When I first got to Cavrag I fully thought this was a song borrowed from like shovel knight. Dude this is amazing, great work

[@king.katherine]

This song legit slaps omg CONGRATS on such a cool opportunity & great execution. I also loved listening to your thought process and breaking it down as well as you did. As someone who's not a musician, I thought it was super cool ;m;

[@thomassheets8897]

I like how this whole video is so chill and then he sprinkles a bit of chaos in at 16:05 and I lost it. I’ve been laughing about it for too long. Awesome video and honestly super informative too

[@Orion-ih5xl]

My toxic trait is thinking i could do this. On another note, this is really cool, and it taught me a lot of things

[@spacefaring_squid_]

You really have an ear for music. These videos are fun to watch and add a lot of variety to things! (also now the i-carly theme is stuck in my head...)

[@ABC218_]

My man is so humble I swear your music is actually really good! The music content is great as well , it’s super chill and really entertaining! :)

[@reinegade]

20:27 was relatable and had me dying laughing for a few minutes! This video makes me want to try making music again Also 22:30 def makes me think of "holy" noises from binding of isaac (and other games I can't think of atm lol). Great work, and thanks for posting!!

[@catburrito4077]

I absolutely LOVED this video! I didn't think I would be this into it, but it was SO COOL! Seeing the steps you took to make the music was a cool experience, and it made me want to go play the mod. Keep it up Therm!

[@TerraformedMelodies]

15:53 more of this please But seriously, these are great and the process you go through is just plain fun. I hope you start making more of these videos again!

[@teally-bop]

I really like this! I'm impressed with how, even with such little experience, you were able to make something with the EXACT perfect vibe! I love your musical content and I'd like to see more f it!

[@Rainbobirb3735]

This is the first music production video that i’ve found that doesn’t rely on complex music theory knowledge to explain what you’re doing and that’s really inspired me to keep working on my stuff. Will be coming back to this video a lot!!

[@taquito5797]

you have talent my man, please release the stuff you make on spotify or soundcloud c: it would be nice to listen to your stuff

[@JoLuna999]

Dude you ARE using the music theory! And doing it waaaaaaaayyyy me who has been in music theory classes for the last 6 years...

[@hunterfunnyguy]

Honestly, as someone who's been wanting to get into making low bit music and also does not have any music theory education, I'm kind of inspired by this.

[@maxxalforte5518]

whaaatttt? the song is actually fire nice job bro

[@rachelanderson6929]

I always love your music Therm. You are very creative, and I like seeing the process, especially when you admit it was just "mess with these 3 dials until I like it" Actually, especially when the process is mess with it til I like it. I am intimidated by the creative process bc I feel like I can't do it without knowing what I'm doing. But just making something you like is totally valid. And I love you for pointing that out

[@LyleLylefr]

I honestly didn’t even notice the bird chip synth until you got rid of it for demonstration, it REALLY adds so much to the whole song. Also if you overlap the notes in the chorus, I think it will feel a lot more real

[@carolinehatcher7908]

I have a whole ass bachelors degree in music and you’re better at composition than me lmao. Loved this vid, hell yeah dude😤

[@LukeSly91]

At least you can be honest with yourself lol

[@smallgiant6676]

Therm: "I'm not an expert at making music also Therm: *proceeds to make an absolute amazing song*

[@startrashing]

you're a genius and i wish this were on spotify

[@maebee134]

THERM???? this slaps so hard!!!! its really cool! It reminds me of other RPG games, i love the layers of sound going on. you killed it!!!

[@R-LoBeats]

I feel just having a passion for this stuff and willingness to tinker around and never feel satisfied until it moves you is really a big factor in making a good song

[@-KizairoKun-]

18:49 it does sound like that one part from "Graze the Roof" lol Loved the video and it was fun to watch the whole process even if i didnt understand anything æ Cant wait for more music-related content, they hit hard

[@hi.7692]

YOU need to do an one hour loop of this NOW.

[@peachypinksarah4204]

this song is absolute jam, and i love how you walked is through your whole process during this! glad you're making all sorts of exciting variety content!

[@jaidenester8714]

18:42 you’re right, Therm. Not only does it sound like PvZ chord progressions, I’m pretty sure that exact chord progression was used in PvZ!

[@robotninjago]

Wait really? That’s crazy

[@2miligrams]

Based😊

[@0ne_Hundred]

The song is Graze the Roof, here's the timestamp: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqPLlGqNe5aJg68

[@flaze_0]

That's what I said!!

[@vinewhip]

i recognized it immediately, its from the track graze the roof from pvz ost!

[@Alouette_EXE]

Same here! I don't really know any experiences with making music. A lot of youtubers have at least one original song and I can't even do it so I found it impressive then I decided I've had enough and I need to make an original song so I did it and I didn't even know I could do it. And then I start getting the feeling of wanting to make more!

[@yetet]

as a music student, your work flow physically leaves me in awe, in a great way

[@asickrat]

i am obsessed with this is sounds so good AAAAA

[@alexanderosinubi5154]

I have never watched your KZbin before but this is a grand introduction! Although you are not a music based KZbinr I have to applaud you for the effort and skill that went into this. Take my sub!

[@dyjhjfrtt6607]

I suck so bad at making music that this was pretty much a tutorial for me. Love it!

[@emmi_j1317]

This is so good, you really have a talent for this Therm! On another note, my 4 year old daughter is bopping around the room to the song and has asked me to replay it more than once!

[@cheesymcnuggets]

This is an absolute banger. I want to learn how to compose music like this… i love it, i see it being an emotional boss battle in an indie story game (close enough to what it’s actually for ig) Too bad i cant afford the equipment to start practicing so that dream is gonna have to wait a while. I used to be hella into music but my single mum was going through a rough time and couldnt stand the sound, forced me to stop and later couldnt afford it anymore so i ended up losing that interest for all the years until this year where ive all of sudden decided i want to make a heartwarming dark fantasy rpg indie game with an OST similar to this style all by myself because im a crazy socially anxious buffoon. I do hope i can commit to this dream of mine and somehow learn all the skills and create the game and OST before i turn 30 (im an unemployed 17yo so that gives me a little over 12 years. Im assuming the game may take 5 years of development, my art skills probably 1 more year before im happy with it, game design can be learnt in less than 1, story writing i can do during development but music i assume will take the longest to learn as it’s the second most important thing after story writing, music is what gives it life and emotion. Knowing me though i will probably crumble under the stress of working an never achieve my one goal in life) Anyway, keep up the good work! You’re an inspiration!

[@ari333prod]

everything you need for music production is a laptop capable of running a DAW like FL Studio and headphones. thats it a reccomandation for rlly good but cheap headphones is Superlux HD 681's if you are okay with using open backs, they leak a little more sound than the usual closed backs but sound rlly wide and clear (also they cost like 30 dollars max). if u want more info reply to this comment im happy to answer any questions u may have

[@2miligrams]

@@ari333prod yo this comment is awesome thanks

[@EthanallOfficial]

holy crap therm is over here casually making some of the best music I’ve heard for a mod and this guy says “I’m not good at this” dude cmon

[@Zwaydi]

You are way to humble your melodies and chord progressions are always fire and i truly belive you got some talent when it comes to music production.

[@JoannaLovesHistoryBooks]

I love these videos because you sound so excited to share this with us.

[@SpunkyDunk]

Wow, this was really inspirational. I myself don’t know much about music theory or how to make music in general but I was able to create 2 original songs (they were bops, according to friends and subscribers). I had my sound engineer friend master them but all everything else took was effort by experimenting in Logic Pro and my crappy little toy piano I had at the time. I don’t know why I quit after that, maybe self esteem issues, I dunno. Watching this reminded me of that process and I think I wanna learn FL Studio now and start making music again. Congrats on getting it in one of my favorite games and thank you for the encouragement!

[@SalamanderMoon]

Yo this SLAPSSSSSS Spotify and/or separate KZbin release when?? I'd love to be able to listen to this on loop!! Real talk though: this is really inspiring!! I've always thought making music was really interesting, but all the music theory stuff is very intimidating to get into, especially as someone who's not really musically-inclined -- you really make it seem a lot more accessible with how you explain your process! I really hope you make more music content in the future! Gonna go back and watch your other music-related videos now :D

[@killerwolf6850]

this is so satisfying and encouraging to watch. you’re doing so well making your own music without professional tools and knowledge on music theory. keep up the great work!

[@giusadi]

I love it!! Your process was so amazing to me, I don't know anything about making music so to me it seems like you know a lot ^^ You're so multitalented, would love more music content on the channel, and congrats Therm!! 💜

[@Trevor7]

bro this is so awesome!!! really love how the theme turned out amazing!!!

[@Jay-ch7fp]

I kinda need Haboo’s reaction to this, considering he said no at first and this is genius

[@CyberBunny-xb8nn]

24:21 is when therm plays the song in full incanse anyone wanted the time stamp

[@thymeskip]

i absolutely love the music-related videos!! it's awe-inspiring to see the process behind it and the magic of all the parts coming together in the end. you truly have a gift, and i'm here for it all the way however, i love all your video, and no matter what topic it is, it always brightens my day!! so really, just make whatever content you want to! i know a lot of people will love really anything you make, so there's no need to fear how people will react!! can't wait for the next video my dude ^^

[@AlliePalmTree]

This was so cool!! The song sounds amazing! I love watching these type of videos they’re so interesting! It was so cool to see you break it down! This artist that I like, Dayglow, used to make similar videos breaking down how me made the music for his own songs so this type of stuff is so cool and interesting to watch!

[@atch300]

This video is a masterpiece I’m so glad it was recommended to me

[@miksnails]

honestly the part after the melody comes in genuinely sounds like it could be from something like undertale!! this was super great and i hope you get to make music for more projects

[@kennalikespizza4515]

Holy bonk!!! That is legitimately so so cool! Your music content is always so great 💚

[@Chuck_Spadina]

Absolutely love your vibe! You can really tell how passionate you are about making (game) music. Could honestly listen to you talk about it for hours! I subbed ( duh. ) Been getting into game dev myself lately, so remind me to hit you up if I ever need a dope soundtrack!

[@honeybee8194]

Noticed that that you asked about making music for the bosses, plural. Will we be seeing more of these? 👀 Looking forward to hearing more absolute bops from you!!! You have yet to make a song that I don’t love

[@wintfye]

bro these are actually soo good😭🔥🔥

[@EliasGold46290]

I could honestly listen to this on repeat for DAYS it's so good

[@kdevelopergw]

as someone who also makes music for fun, also uses it for games (although, i make my own games), and also doesn't know the music theory, this was a really fun video to watch! also personally i think that boss songs are a lot more fun to make than other stuff

[@arumpaldea]

Still so impressive even though you don't have professional training! You would fool me.

[@thechickenalfredo]

Thanks so much for this content! At school I'm having a Composer Competition and we need to use FL Studio and this is helping me get used to the mechanics AND its by my favorite KZbinr!

[@HACKYOfficial]

You may say ur not good at music but you'd be suprised of the quality you just made.

[@mathiasricard9272]

I'm totally in love with this song! I hope you make more music because this is really amazing and belongs in my playlist. I hope people will enjoy this content, I would love to see more.