White Diamond: The Illusion of Perfection

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The Roundtable

The Roundtable

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@erichartley2089
@erichartley2089 4 ай бұрын
Actually in the End of an Era book it’s stated that White was physically unable to physically harm Pink because of her shield. So instead she’d use Yellow and Blue to harm her instead which really plays into the whole grandmother using her children as a weapon.
@weirdkidwithacrystalball1322
@weirdkidwithacrystalball1322 4 ай бұрын
Wow that adds a whole new depth 0_0
@sissysovereign1294
@sissysovereign1294 4 ай бұрын
That's actually so sad and crazy how she actually WANTED to hurt Pink!😭
@YummyChef-in6zc
@YummyChef-in6zc 4 ай бұрын
WAIIIIT WIAT WAIT THERE'S A BOOK ???????????
@wolfie_1436
@wolfie_1436 4 ай бұрын
Fr i need this book NOW ​@@YummyChef-in6zc
@bethanykroemer559
@bethanykroemer559 4 ай бұрын
@@YummyChef-in6zcyeah!! i think there’s a set of like three art books for the show showing of character designs and stuff!
@porchprophet1641
@porchprophet1641 4 ай бұрын
seeing steven universe have this completely random but beautiful resurgence in fanmade content in 2024 is making me so emotional, i love this show so much
@FlubbCat
@FlubbCat 4 ай бұрын
Hopefully Rebecca and CN see it and maybe make a new SU project🤞
@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993
@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993 4 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@FlubbCatwell idk cuz Rebecca said that the show is based on her life experiences. What more life experiences can she have
@FlubbCat
@FlubbCat 4 ай бұрын
@@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993 the show is based off her life experiences but then can still go in new directions, like a diamond prequel series would be rad
@rah1435
@rah1435 4 ай бұрын
i’ve literally relapsed on steven universe for some reason watching old videos and even rewatched the whole show
@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769
@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 4 ай бұрын
It is just as relevant to the world today as it was in 2013, in my opinion.
@WraythSkitzofrenik
@WraythSkitzofrenik 4 ай бұрын
Fun gemology fact: White and pink diamonds have the same crystal structure. The pink coloration comes from the intense compression of the structure instead of the presence of chemical impurities found in blue and yellow diamonds. It really gives a new spin on why White blushes pink instead of something more her color. Pink is a part of her. The pressure she put on the littlest diamond is the same pressure she puts in herself.
@RiannaPeterson
@RiannaPeterson 4 ай бұрын
Woah that's a cool way of putting that
@Domboss2019
@Domboss2019 4 ай бұрын
I cant help but smile of the double entandra (i probably fudged that spelling) of physical and social pressure
@elizabethstreit5203
@elizabethstreit5203 4 ай бұрын
That also explains why Pink is short
@aztinium
@aztinium 4 ай бұрын
@@Domboss2019entendre lol. but i agree!
@Mnemoniforma9.00
@Mnemoniforma9.00 2 ай бұрын
Even more than that, White starts under the impression that color impurity is something that her power needs to "fix", but because Pink's color is structural, there is no impurity to remove; she has nothing for White TO "fix".
@cassiusauberg725
@cassiusauberg725 4 ай бұрын
So the corruption beam was just the other diamonds stripping the gems of their defining traits and leaving only Pinks impulse. The worst, base form of themselves without governance of their own impulses and emotions. Like a newborn, with only the ability to scream and tantrum but not communicate through higher thinking.
@MikeruNatsuaki
@MikeruNatsuaki 4 ай бұрын
That is honestly a really cool way of looking at the corruption. Kudos!
@josephreinerth9152
@josephreinerth9152 4 ай бұрын
@@MikeruNatsuaki which would mean, she lied to the other diamonds, who believed it would obliterate all of the gems.
@roosetint
@roosetint 4 ай бұрын
and also that means if pink also blasted the gems the corruption would really kill them! removing all the parts of a being
@okiibadd_7198
@okiibadd_7198 Ай бұрын
Damn.
@SakuraTSR
@SakuraTSR 10 күн бұрын
hold on i'm trying to figure out how to spell genoius
@wynnt1
@wynnt1 4 ай бұрын
Man, that almost primal "SHE'S GONE!!" being yelled while pink-steven remains stone-faced still hits so hard. Very much like a kid hiding their feeling behind a mask. Gotta look perfect and palatable while just absolutely screaming inside
@daveofguy6653
@daveofguy6653 Ай бұрын
It's such a moving, powerful moment.
@JustDoingReviews
@JustDoingReviews 4 ай бұрын
You know one thing that never once crossed my mind was the fact the White knew Pink was Rose Quartz but now that I have heard about it it makes a lot of sense.
@firemiracle
@firemiracle 4 ай бұрын
I honestly blame CN for cancelling the show. Rebecca wanted to add like two more seasons and CN ruined it, which gave the crewniverse no choice but to squeeze as much as they could, even by not giving white diamond enough screen time
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. Anytime, there's not an ounce of heterosexual content in a cartoon, the big wigs will kill off a show.
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 4 ай бұрын
Rebecca chose to have a gay wedding over a more fleshed out ending, and as much as it pains me as a fan of the show, she made the correct choice.
@digitalgloop12
@digitalgloop12 4 ай бұрын
Eh, this is a very shortsighted take. CN ultimately had no choice but to cancel the show because the wedding basically got it pulled of being played in a number of countries which screwed with their funding. No funding = no show. RS herself admitted that CN (whose CEO at the time, and possibly still, was a gay man) did not want to end the show and supported her decision to go through with the wedding. CN then greenlit the movie and SUF despite having "cancelled" the show. Rebecca made a choice she believed was right, but that choice is what led to the shows cancelation because the show could not sustain itself after the wedding episode. I'm not putting blame on either her nor CN, because, ultimately, the actual culprit is the rampant homophobia present across the globe. It's very unfortunate, but it is what it is. Note that I'm not trying to say CN is perfect or anything, but realistically, they let RS have as much of her way as she could get away with and then some. If CN itself really had a problem with SU, they would've never allowed the movie and they most definitely wouldn't have allowed SUF.
@majamystic256
@majamystic256 4 ай бұрын
if only they got more seasons they could of had the wedding episode being the finale of season 5 and then have 2 more seasons for homeworld and other stuff
@yoursnatchedweave641
@yoursnatchedweave641 4 ай бұрын
@@matti.8465no she didn't
@sunmotton4872
@sunmotton4872 4 ай бұрын
I'm happy people finally get over the "Pink is the true evil in the entire show" mentality. I know she had done some bad things but she learned. She learned and matured to become Rose Quart. I know that doesn't make the bad things she done goes away but it show that she is a good person but was misled.
@aretoadish
@aretoadish 4 ай бұрын
The menstruation story is really quite interesting. The reflection doesn't even bother trying to comfort themselves or pick themselves back up, just floats into the false reflection world.
@SMM5
@SMM5 4 ай бұрын
A theory I still have is that the big Diamond attack, or “the great annihilation light” as I’m calling it, corrupting gems instead of annihilating them wasn’t an accident, White influenced it to do that on purpose so Pink would have a reason to come home, and this added onto why Pink never tried to go to space to begin with
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 4 ай бұрын
That could be a possibility.
@artemisiakyrell7727
@artemisiakyrell7727 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I also read that attack as impatience on white's part, trying to force pink's hand. Same with the cluster.
@elizamayne
@elizamayne 4 ай бұрын
But by the time they blasted the earth Pink had already been “shattered". It’s actually why they blasted the earth.
@SMM5
@SMM5 4 ай бұрын
@@elizamayne White knew Pink faked her shattering, I’m pretty sure that was explained in Pink Diamond: Character Development in Reverse (whatever that video was called exactly)
@bad-girl-coventhe-owl-club1119
@bad-girl-coventhe-owl-club1119 4 ай бұрын
We Need to Talk About the Diamond Blue! I think Blue is an exception to this. While I wouldn't say she's redeemed, it's clear she's definitely changed her attitude towards things. When she talks about having not shattered and not made anyone cry she sounds genuinely proud of the fact, rather than like she's being forced to do something unpleasant, like Yellow and White. Obviously this isn't something to be super proud of, but for someone in her position it is something that would be a big step. She is also the first one to admit the problems with their empire, as well as the first to embrace change. On top of that she knows that "lower lifeforms" (humans) are not as simplistic or so far below them as originally thought. She does refer to Spinel as "one of Pink's treasures", but it's worth nothing her first reaction to hearing about her plight is one of sympathy. Her attitude has developed drastically after Pink "died." The events of the Diamond Days Arc and Steven's attitude were the catalyst to finally push her in that direction fully. Having actually faced her grief and embraced it seems to have cultivated a level of empathy in her. Aside from a one or two hiccups, she pretty much accepts Steven's way of life and ideas immediately.
@SarahtheAutisticCartoongeek
@SarahtheAutisticCartoongeek 4 ай бұрын
Just like Sadness in inside out and a new emotion in inside 2 😮
@StareachValcin
@StareachValcin 4 ай бұрын
I more or less agree with your assessments about Blue Diamond, except I do think she has been redeemed, or at the very least, is on the path towards redemption.
@HenshinFanatic
@HenshinFanatic 4 ай бұрын
@@StareachValcin definitely much further than the others at the very least.
@sophiachalloner8951
@sophiachalloner8951 4 ай бұрын
A thing to mention, is that her realization that humans could understand her happened from talking to Greg, before Steven even knew he should try to redeem them.
@layabstar
@layabstar 19 күн бұрын
I think that mentality wise she's the most progressed, but Yellow's doing the most to actually substantially fix her transgressions. She's essentially spending all her time bringing the people she killed back to life, and she mentions even doing so for the cluster which could take ions. While she doesn't exactly sound happy about it, it definitely has the most impact imo and is the best way to atone for her actions
@shelbybayer200
@shelbybayer200 4 ай бұрын
I love how when White says "Judging anything based on appearance is WRONG" Steven has a face that says "B*tch really ? You're really trying to be the High and Mighty person right now ?"
@theatlassystem
@theatlassystem 3 ай бұрын
She was being sarcastic...
@EMBEEAY
@EMBEEAY 2 ай бұрын
@@theatlassystemno she wasn’t, Whites personality afterwords is comical, but it’s supposed to represent people who virtue signal for their own moral gain. So yes, she’s being nice now but the entire joke is she’s still doing it for herself.
@1philanna
@1philanna 2 ай бұрын
His face, though it absolutely killed me
@TheCommenterDragon
@TheCommenterDragon 4 ай бұрын
It's true, White Diamond definitely should've been given more screen time and development. In fact when it came to being an antagonist WD didn't get nearly as much attention, Not even after she almost killed Steven by removing his gem.
@garg4531
@garg4531 4 ай бұрын
Very true, she only really got to appear in the finale and the issue was resolved almost immediately, unlike previous antagonists like Jasper and Peridot whom we got to enjoy for many episodes
@In_Jail_Out_Soonn
@In_Jail_Out_Soonn 4 ай бұрын
Sadly SU had to end short due to CN not giving them enough seasons and episodes to make the show play out how they wanted. So thats why it seems rushed.
@glizzygobbler2688
@glizzygobbler2688 4 ай бұрын
i honestly wish she would’ve just stayed a villain she was so cool 😭
@zzX-ML
@zzX-ML 4 ай бұрын
I wouldnt say allat now ​@@glizzygobbler2688
@carnage0685
@carnage0685 4 ай бұрын
@@In_Jail_Out_Soonn maybe they could have not made all those stupid filler episodes that never amounted to anything???
@Mangacide
@Mangacide 4 ай бұрын
I'm going back to my original headcanon (with a tweak). The diamonds were all one being and their "birth" was them splitting apart. Also might contribute to their disgust towards fusion.
@zzX-ML
@zzX-ML 4 ай бұрын
Literally personified by the parts of the robot being themselves
@kamhardee8558
@kamhardee8558 2 ай бұрын
I would LOVE a diamond origin story, I’d definitely cry
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 4 ай бұрын
I don't think White Diamond suspected Pink was Rose, I think she was just in denial. White supresses all of her feelings, including grief, so she would delude herself into thinking Pink is just messing with them and she'll come back eventually. Because the alternative would be too much to handle while mantaining her facade.
@theatlassystem
@theatlassystem 3 ай бұрын
Rebecca Sugar already confirmed that White always knew Pink was Rose.
@Silly_Sulky_Seli
@Silly_Sulky_Seli 4 ай бұрын
with a "mom" like her I'd also need a summonable shield
@garg4531
@garg4531 4 ай бұрын
Finally watching this, I'm halfway through - at the reveal that White Diamond knew Pink wasn't dead - and dear gosh! This actually does go with her reaction to finally reuniting with "Pink", or rather her lack thereof I remember one comment I saw putting it best, when White Diamond asked "Did you have fun?" what she really meant was "Are you done f---ing around?" This entire time she was aware of everything going on and that it was all because of Pink, messing up like she knew she would, and was simply waiting for her to finally come crawling back to admit she was wrong and finally fall into line That is...pretty horrible, and that's not even getting into what happened to the other gems!
@Blondegenius3
@Blondegenius3 4 ай бұрын
It's so twisted that White Diamond thought of all this as a game that she had to beat Pink at. White let the others suffer unfathomable levels of depression, anger and grief and it took a mental toll on both Blue and Yellow. All of it: The corruption, the war, the shatterings, even giving the Earth to Pink- all of this White trying to prove a point to Pink. WTH.
@Spookworm
@Spookworm 4 ай бұрын
Didn't think I'd run into a parallel between white diamond and Greg universe's parents, but uh, here we are now. Love this show and all the little connections and details. Amazing.
@EMBEEAY
@EMBEEAY Ай бұрын
To me it was a pretty obvious parallel when that episode aired lmao
@SamRegan610
@SamRegan610 4 ай бұрын
I am so glad the podcast and End of an Era exist. There was so much that didn't make it into the show, and giving Rebecca the chance to elaborate on what they didn't get to show us tied together so many different loose threads, especially White since she was the biggest casualty of the show's cancellation
@Jonathan_Collins
@Jonathan_Collins 4 ай бұрын
"I've stopped waging space wars... for now!" "I've stopped killing people!" "I've been saying please and thank you to the peasants!" That's a very convincing argument, ladies. Very convincing. That will certainly win him over.
@ANSHUMANSINGH-v7c
@ANSHUMANSINGH-v7c 4 ай бұрын
Yeah it's very convincing 😊😊😊
@FineForever-ru9dm
@FineForever-ru9dm 4 ай бұрын
Personally I don't think it is convincing, but it is a improvement nonetheless.
@MidoriNatsume
@MidoriNatsume 4 ай бұрын
"We will pass the rest of our immortal existence to resurrect and cure all the people we killed." Is this better?
@rebekahoberson1447
@rebekahoberson1447 4 ай бұрын
Nah they just wanted whatever was left of pink(Which was basically just Steven and spinel). They even have a whole song to try and convince him to stay with them.
@Blondegenius3
@Blondegenius3 4 ай бұрын
To be fair, liberation of Yellow's colonies should logically be an ongoing process because it was something that she did for millennia. And you don't spend thousands of years doing something and fix it in 2 years. There also has to be work put into dismantling your armies more than just ordering them to stop. But the bar gets even lower with Blue and White. Not killing others, not making beings suffer, and being polite to others are very low bars. Do Blue and White seriously want medals for that? Come on.
@StareachValcin
@StareachValcin 4 ай бұрын
I agree that White Diamond definitely wasn't properly shown enough as a character in the original Steven Universe series, especially since she's the main antagonist of the series responsible for all the terrible things that the great Diamond authority. This is a great and informative video about White Diamond as a character, her character flaws, her history which wasn't fully conveyed in the series, her problems with Pink Diamond, how White was the only one who probably realized that Pink wasn't shattered, and how she was defeated by the simple fact that she was proven wrong once. In truth, Steven wasn't really able to convince White Diamond with words or even actions. It took White taking Steven's gem and seeing for herself that Pink Diamond was truly gone that White started to lose. White couldn't accept that she was wrong, but no matter how hard she tried, she couldn't just make herself right. This definitely allowed Steven to finally get her to stop her evil ways. I do agree that White Diamond still hasn't done enough to redeem herself, even during Steven Universe Future.
@Hexlaw111
@Hexlaw111 4 ай бұрын
I expected white diamond to be more intimidating mysterious ominous and just straight up terrifying
@mohabalserafe3795
@mohabalserafe3795 4 ай бұрын
Well that was going to be the case blame cartoon Network for cancelling the show she felt casualty because of it I like the other diamonds before her
@rainoftime37
@rainoftime37 4 ай бұрын
I feel like White Diamond knew that Pink would survive the attack on Earth, especially since White knows that Pink's shield can withstand their blasts. She probably just didn't care about the state of the other gems on Earth because why would White care about a bunch of "side characters" that don't really mean anything to her in the long run? It's like, would an author care about the lives of that society that lived on that planet they just blew up to further the main protagonist's story arc? Probably not. White Diamond is like the author of a story, and Pink Diamond is like her main character that she puts through hell in order to further her development in the story. At least, that's how she sees it--unfortunately, said main character has a mind of her own and rebels against the author which causes a lot of problems when you look at all the awful things White has done to her.
@ShyyGaladriel
@ShyyGaladriel 4 ай бұрын
A narcissistic parent can have genuine positive feelings about their child. Which makes trying to live away from them so hard.
@GJames-Legend101
@GJames-Legend101 4 ай бұрын
I honestly hope they continue Steven universe it’s literally my childhood.
@SpinelFan64
@SpinelFan64 4 ай бұрын
same
@Solar1_420
@Solar1_420 2 ай бұрын
Hear hear :)
@ACagedBird364
@ACagedBird364 4 ай бұрын
The fact that I was in 7th grade when this chain of episodes aired but now, I've graduated high school and currently in university.
@SilverScribe85
@SilverScribe85 4 ай бұрын
Until the day comes where Steven Universe continues, I did my own version of White's improvement through a fanfic
@TheSpencermacdougall
@TheSpencermacdougall 4 ай бұрын
Name? Link?
@Mike-eu4gw
@Mike-eu4gw 4 ай бұрын
What they said 😂
@ghoulfinds
@ghoulfinds 3 ай бұрын
SILVERSCRIBE85!!! DROP THE FIC LINK!!! AND MY LIFE!!! IS YOURS ^_^
@fizzyphy9901
@fizzyphy9901 2 ай бұрын
dude pls, send a link or just gives us the name PLEASE
@thesavanahcat9086
@thesavanahcat9086 4 ай бұрын
21:02 this kinda reminds me of the concept of cringe, and how people would send hate or try to belittle other people for doing things they wouldn't do or find acceptable. Like how people would make cringe compilations of newer artists work because they think its strange or goofy looking
@HImitsuRose4869
@HImitsuRose4869 4 ай бұрын
I would love for a series about pink diamond and what her life was like on homeworld with the other diamonds
@zackchaozmaster
@zackchaozmaster 4 ай бұрын
pink steven is the personification of I'm done with ALL your shit.
@ethansanchez6267
@ethansanchez6267 4 ай бұрын
White Diamond was so good at being bad but so bad at being good.
@JustMisfortune
@JustMisfortune 3 ай бұрын
The way white diamond t-poses kind of reminds me of how raccoons and other animals will stand up to make themselves look bigger. I’m not sure if it’s intentional, but it’d be a neat little detail if it’s meant to display white diamonds dominance over the other gems.
@willyzemlya
@willyzemlya 4 ай бұрын
Discovered this channel weeks ago, watching the 6y ago videos, and just now I realised it's still alive
@BrandonJames2016
@BrandonJames2016 4 ай бұрын
Oh white Diamond the potential she had to be the biggest threat of the series and well…. We saw the end result lol. I still enjoy white diamond bc of her personality and design. She still has sm lore surrounding her as she is the original gem and hasn’t been touched upon yet.
@Rednite_
@Rednite_ 4 ай бұрын
I glad there are still videos like this one about Steven Universe . Even after the show ended a while ago.
@LarvaAsia
@LarvaAsia 4 ай бұрын
I love how when White says "Judging anything based on appearance is WRONG"
@joseluissifuentes8639
@joseluissifuentes8639 4 ай бұрын
I feel like White Diamond was so caught up in perfecting her empire that she doesn’t even consider her own Diamond comrades and her soldiers that she’s clouded in her own ideals. (Also, I want the Roundtable to do the Rise and downfall of Tara Strong. Given that she’s now moving like a degenerate on Twitter and going in depth on who cut ties with her)
@nevaehhamilton3493
@nevaehhamilton3493 4 ай бұрын
Oof. You're telling me that Zionist didn't stop there with her Islamophobic comments and fake apology?
@CVV-d6b
@CVV-d6b 4 ай бұрын
Only 17 seconds.. 0:17 *see’s picture* *gets reminded of when she freaking pulled out Steven’s gem out-*
@allverlife
@allverlife 4 ай бұрын
tbh, im just happy to be living my 2010s self by watching this video... Steven Universe really shaped an entire generation. It really was just sad that the Crewniverse had to wrap up that entire arc so quickly. I would definitely love to get my hands on any official serialised content if there are any created by Rebecca and her team!
@cashordeals3672
@cashordeals3672 4 ай бұрын
White diamond could've been up there with mr perfect cell but cartoon network did her dirty and left her being first form frieza 😮‍💨
@Mushroom_Man
@Mushroom_Man 4 ай бұрын
My girl deserved better
@whitesoul1.1.09
@whitesoul1.1.09 4 ай бұрын
İ have started to realize how many stuff is getting canceled .. and how 99% of it being stuff like steven universe , owl house ... İt makes me realize something and i hate people A LOT more now
@TheAllSeeingEye2468
@TheAllSeeingEye2468 4 ай бұрын
The diamonds definitely gave me "big sisters" vibes.
@callumbaurley716
@callumbaurley716 4 ай бұрын
For me, I was already an Adult when I watched SU and saw the ending. So I could see what they wanted to do and appreciate White despite the poor storytelling that came with her limited appearance and time due to being cancelled.
@RainbowYoshi37
@RainbowYoshi37 4 ай бұрын
it really shows that White was the biggest, oldest Karen in the universe. it took everything that pink/rose/steven did to make her let go of being a karen
@EMBEEAY
@EMBEEAY 2 ай бұрын
It’s such a shame too because white diamond’s personality after she was changed and how it plays along with the other diamonds is peak comedy 😭 The fandom makes memes about how hilariously overly-dramatic they can be, and if we got those extra couple seasons Rebecca wanted we could’ve see it play out more. Never felt so cheated.
@Blondegenius3
@Blondegenius3 4 ай бұрын
One part that you forgot to mention about the Id is the principle of Creation and the Principle of Destruction. Pink Diamond/Rose was the only Gem ever to have a baby like us. And that meant some (ahem) adult activity with Greg. Freud talks a lot about that type of activity in his work. As Rose, her powers were about healing and she loved life. But Rose could never, ever get away from the trauma that she had as Pink. As Pink, her powers were destructive. Rebecca said she was severely depressed and traumatized. She was filled with self-loathing and guilt for everything that happened. And all of that destroyed her. Creation and Destruction. She wanted to create life and the price was her death.
@jmjx2966
@jmjx2966 4 ай бұрын
Pls lets make steven universe popular enough again to let rebecca sugar do something more with it🥺. How she said, if you want it back, make a ton of noise!!!
@Domboss2019
@Domboss2019 4 ай бұрын
Ya know what i want to see? *HOW THE HECK HOMEWORLD IS SPLIT IN HALF AND STILL MAINTAINS A STABLE ORBIT WITH TWO SETS OF RINGS.*
@autumbreeze1129
@autumbreeze1129 4 ай бұрын
Huh. White not being able to reconnect with Pink is the same as Grand Pear not being able to reconnect with his daughter Pear Butter due to her being dead. An interesting parallel I hadn’t considered til now
@Thelucky_ducky
@Thelucky_ducky 4 ай бұрын
Wow.
@xxslasher16xx
@xxslasher16xx 4 ай бұрын
And just like White Diamond; Pear Butter, Bright Mac, and Grand Pear had limited appearences. We also didn’t get that much information, especially how PB and BM died. Then again, it’s a kid’s show. But, they handled the situation in a mature way.
@Notstormz3
@Notstormz3 4 ай бұрын
GIVE US LAPIS LAZULI: Prisoner of Tragedy
@sleepyhinako
@sleepyhinako 4 ай бұрын
If (wich I do think is likely) Steven universe ever gets a continuation or reboot I would love to see whites character explored more in the light of a narcissistic parental figure, she shows a lot of narcissistic traits in her general character and also the mind games she plays with pink causing detriment to pink, the other diamonds and even the rest of the gem population and the universe as a whole purely to prove a point and exert power over pink as her motherly figure, idk i could be wrong Abt this and if I am pls correct me if I am but I think white is a good portrayal of a narcissistic abusive parental figure and I think it would be super interesting to see this aspect explored in more detail (pls Rebecca sugar and CN make a pg13+ Steven universe and my life is urs🙏🙏🙏 )
@klm1578
@klm1578 4 ай бұрын
They literally just turned white diamond into a giant child And it's kind of funny
@Zistheone2
@Zistheone2 4 ай бұрын
If we do get a SU continuation, I'd like to see the origin of the Diamonds so that Steven can gain a better understanding of his mom and make peace with his general feelings of her, regardless of what he decides. Maybe it could also have Steven inviting the DeMayos to a big reunion party for him, Greg, & the Gems since he got in touch with them after he moved out and wanted Greg to make peace with them to show a familial contrast
@zzX-ML
@zzX-ML 4 ай бұрын
This would be amazing
@davey_does_game
@davey_does_game 4 ай бұрын
i wish the industry had more respect for animations
@theangelspeaker2129
@theangelspeaker2129 4 ай бұрын
I hope with the fan base becoming active again Rebecca will give us an adult SU show 😭 she had lots of ideas she couldn’t use bc the show was on CN
@Supasmartguy
@Supasmartguy 4 ай бұрын
You guys should make a video on the potential for an Owl House Amphibia Gravity Falls crossover sequel series.
@pianoman5259
@pianoman5259 4 ай бұрын
i love steven universe, but never looked at it like this, and omg may i just say i love it 10x more now. As someone who has grown up with parents who want me to be a clone of them, "He won by just existing," speaks to me and I'm sure so many other people on MASSIVE levels, I never even thought of it this way. As much as I appreciate the show for this, I honestly appreciate you more for spelling it out because somehow I totally missed it. Thank you, I really needed this video
@DSi381
@DSi381 4 ай бұрын
White Diamond: Judging people based on appearances is wrong 😃 Steven:😑
@Origamifish23
@Origamifish23 4 ай бұрын
New Steven Universe Vid let’s go!!!
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 4 ай бұрын
You guys are cooking! Thanks for these videos!
@rainbowquartz9513
@rainbowquartz9513 4 ай бұрын
I liked her better when she’s perfectionist villain
@garg4531
@garg4531 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, was a very interesting character for me Should’ve gotten more screentime and character development instead of just instantly and easily changing her mind like they did
@rainbowquartz9513
@rainbowquartz9513 4 ай бұрын
@@garg4531 yeah she’s like my second favorite diamond ( my favorite diamond is blue)
@garg4531
@garg4531 4 ай бұрын
@@rainbowquartz9513 Same here Heck when I first saw her she even inspired an idea for a final antagonist in my own series! (Though his redemption probably would’ve gone better) Oh yeah there’s also White Pearl. Creepy as heck and I absolutely love that about her
@rainbowquartz9513
@rainbowquartz9513 4 ай бұрын
@@garg4531 she definitely scared me and her appearance shook the fandom.
@garg4531
@garg4531 4 ай бұрын
@@rainbowquartz9513 Can imagine so
@redshot5403
@redshot5403 4 ай бұрын
Her shoes are so nice
@kingjb554
@kingjb554 4 ай бұрын
When SU returns (because it will eventually) Im very interested to see how the Diamonds are doing with their redemption and improvement as people
@Pheonixice101
@Pheonixice101 4 ай бұрын
Long ass video like this about SU?? We love to see it 🎉
@dynastylobster8957
@dynastylobster8957 4 ай бұрын
I understand that white diamond has had at least a small amount of character development since her debut. she doesn't see herself as perfect anymore, and is willing to change as a person, that's not the part I'm questioning. See, with the other diamonds, you can make sense of their changes in behavior. Blue never liked being a dictator, but just didn't speak up about it, so she fit into her new role extremely easily. Pink didn't tolerate any of it once she found out the truth. Yellow seemingly wants to just "do things right" and "what's right" is whatever white diamond says is right. However: white diamond's character only changes after she finds out, she is INCAPABLE of murdering steven. and from that point on, although she experiences genuine confusion and embarrassment, everything else feels condescending, sarcastic, and like a caricature of how she views the crystal gems to be. she doesn't express remorse at all until literally every other character in the show is doing it, she's the last one to say it, but her words, "i hurt everyone in the entire universe", are exaggerated compared to the others. not just factually, but emotionally. yes she hurt a lot of people, she hurt all gems, but there's still life out there that she didn't hurt. what I'm getting at, is that i think white diamond's unbending compliance is a FASCADE. she has had less character development than the other diamonds, and is somehow acting so nice that it even annoys steven! her sarcastic remark "judging anything based on appearance is wrong" when looking at the planet, makes steven scoff. My hypothesis, is that she's putting on a facade because its easier than fighting against a person you can't kill. she's waiting. she's waiting however many decades, centuries, or millennia that steven may live, until she can finally do whatever it is she is planning on doing. i do not think her plan is to return to the way things were in era 1/2. i don't think it is that severe, but i do think she plans to do something that no crystal gem would approve of. because she has been given no reason to feel any way other than frustrated, scared, and humiliated, in front of everyone she wronged, and everyone she used to have control over. she's bitter, she's petty, and she wants to do something about it.
@NErDy-pr1jf
@NErDy-pr1jf Ай бұрын
This would be really interesting. Like she is able to admit she was wrong about this one thing as is now just biding her time to get into a position to total control and authority so she can try the same thing again with some minor adjustments
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 4 ай бұрын
LOVE your steven Universe videos guys! Love learning from you!
@caryh8
@caryh8 4 ай бұрын
Ngl, White's power to mind control others reminds me a lot of the power of the Founding Titan from AOT. Makes sense since she's basically a weird mix of Ymir and King Fritz.
@harpbrothers100
@harpbrothers100 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love her character design
@3bay
@3bay 4 ай бұрын
White Diamonds Aura was unmatched, Never mentioned, never seen anywhere else besides a logo or Mural, but her presence weight and hype was there from the get go In another Universe , she was given the story she deserved
@KING_RYE1997
@KING_RYE1997 3 ай бұрын
I didn't expect an N bomb in this video 25:39
@AMoniqueOcampo
@AMoniqueOcampo 4 ай бұрын
White Diamond is giving major narcissist vibes. She sees her subjects as extensions of herself and sees everyone tas functions/tools.
@williamswonderland3636
@williamswonderland3636 3 ай бұрын
Wow white diamond is so aspirational now that you put it that way ,sure it's messed up what she did but her goals of being perfect inorder to be well liked but in the process removing all of your personality is very relatable
@leonarandle2140
@leonarandle2140 4 ай бұрын
I thought the diamonds were created form the universe itself
@xavierwashington5408
@xavierwashington5408 3 ай бұрын
I rm being so hype for White Diamond, only for her to turn good by song, and not even a good one, I just wanted a pure villain😭
@NErDy-pr1jf
@NErDy-pr1jf Ай бұрын
Not even a song, a roast
@kylieshortreed8857
@kylieshortreed8857 4 ай бұрын
The show definitely hits on a whole new level as an adult. I hope someday, if we ever do get a reboot that we would get to see a Homeworld background story.
@StonedHunter
@StonedHunter 2 ай бұрын
White vs Pink is Collective vs Individual, and the answer to both of these battles is that you need both. A true collective can only function at it's best when individuals are embraced and allowed to exist. Beach City and Little Homeworld are perfect examples of that very concept. Your breakdown on how White sees gems as an extention of herself works with this perfectly
@someone-49-51
@someone-49-51 Ай бұрын
Considering what we know from future that stevens gem gives him what he needs for the situation, became quarts like to fight jasper, speed to help and save everyone, and the loud yelling to be heard when stressed out. A lot of his memories are when he's usually mostly alone like in the palise or away from just about everyone when locked up. I think it's interesting how the memories are being given by pink steven/ his gem to help him in the situation figure out what's really going on.
@ЭнхмөнхУ
@ЭнхмөнхУ 4 ай бұрын
The diamonds are super interesting characters they are complicated there conflicting and opposites to each other but also compliments each other alsoo can i just say were really doing this steven universe character deep dives aaaaaaaaa and white diamond for that matter i god i love you
@MakaYTGOOFYGOOBER
@MakaYTGOOFYGOOBER 4 ай бұрын
WOOOHOOO 🎉🎉🎉 MORE IN DEPTH ANALYSIS TIME 🎉🎉🎉
@miahmill1019
@miahmill1019 4 ай бұрын
I live for your Steve universe content ❤ it really give me so much closure and more understanding to the show. I plan on rewatching it soon with everything I’ve learned from you !! White definitely did not get enough screen time and the ending was kinda rushed b
@justinwhite915
@justinwhite915 4 ай бұрын
I really hope Rebecca gets a chance to share more about her world.
@Yharim
@Yharim 4 ай бұрын
What an dejavu
@cookieanimation7976
@cookieanimation7976 4 ай бұрын
Congratulations on being first to comment
@riqrimoli
@riqrimoli 3 ай бұрын
yeah whats up with that
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 4 ай бұрын
Hm, I see, i appreciate this Video, very good job, it’s a shame this idea couldn’t be fully realized and explored, but i hope too there’s a chance for Second Try. Anyway, i wonder who you’ll cover next, can’t wait to find out, maybe Lapis?
@netherfreakultima4498
@netherfreakultima4498 4 ай бұрын
White truly desired perfection
@Hridoyw
@Hridoyw 4 ай бұрын
I just rewatched the entire series of Steven Universe last month and really enjoyed it.
@earlfrancart5687
@earlfrancart5687 4 ай бұрын
excellent break down on white diamond, they were able to get some of this across on the show, but your break down and the sources you used really brought it into better focus
@Western_Dude
@Western_Dude 7 күн бұрын
White Diamon: "I am the perfect lifeform" Cell and Shadow: *"And i took that personally"*
@rileyanthony
@rileyanthony 4 ай бұрын
@TheRountable she really is but to make her feel like that illusion of being perfect i would add a bit more the Frieza ism if you what mean “I don’t let gems fuse with these pitta full waste of space monkeys”. including some of the goku black you “think to can take on a goddess” mentality with that her having saying of “I’m better then all of you and every else knows it”. Would be the types of traits i would have added in to be that much more of an opposing threat to the whole cast but that just the way i would have added to her character to make feel more impactful and dominating in sense.
@serviper3908
@serviper3908 4 ай бұрын
Hope you do a lapis video soon im enjoying new steven universe stuff lol
@Hexsmasher2099
@Hexsmasher2099 4 ай бұрын
If they’re making a future Steven Universe, they could introduce an overarching villain Here's my idea for an overarching villain… Grand Prism can serve as the overarching antagonist of the Cartoon Network TV series Steven Universe. He is an alien cyborg scientist, who aims to forcibly enhance lower life forms or inanimate objects into anthropomorphic humanoids to create what he deems the perfect society. He is also the creator of the Homeworld Gems, which includes the Great Diamond Authority, he completely outranks White Diamond herself since she is his creation. He is also known for annihilating many planets he created just because they didn’t suit his twisted standards and used many alien species into his horrifying experiments. This character is based on the High Evolutionary from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3.
@Akanisen049
@Akanisen049 3 ай бұрын
When the ending first aired it left a bitter taste in my mouth, and for a while I thought it made me no longer like SU. But recently I decided to watch it through again from the start now that I've learned more about the production (mainly the ending getting suddenly limited to 6 episodes). I also convinced my friend to watch it with me as he had skipped it due to being in that highschool "I'm too old for cartoons" phase (he loves cartoons btw 😂). Well my partner, who for years said she didn't wanna watch SU, ended up joining us. Now she's hooked and can't wait for watch night! She knows nothing about the show (no spoilers from us!), I watched every episode when it was airing, and my friend knows major plot points (including Rose's truth). It's very intertaining having so many different viewpoints while watching it again 😊
@distortedriolu4618
@distortedriolu4618 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad I can enjoy Steven Universe content again without the super vocal weirdos getting mad at us for relating to these characters.
@Babyman65
@Babyman65 4 ай бұрын
I really hope we get more Steven Universe in the future ❤
@scarleyscattering
@scarleyscattering 4 ай бұрын
same!!😭😭 i'd even watch him grow up to old age
@TheNamelessOne888
@TheNamelessOne888 2 ай бұрын
She knew that Steven was on his way to Homeworld. I think she is like the all-seeing eye. She can remotely view other Gems, maybe she can see through their eyes and read their thoughts. I think she is monitoring and supervising Homeworld from within her ship. If true, this would have made White Diamond more unsettling still. No one has any privacy and nothing can be hidden from her.
@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769
@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 4 ай бұрын
I thought that White Diamond was supposed to be an allegory for someones old, out of touch conservative parents
@80yearoldman98
@80yearoldman98 4 ай бұрын
I think she can be that as well
@Br1on1cle
@Br1on1cle 4 ай бұрын
I seriously think we could support another massive Steven series. I need my sequels damn it!
@NErDy-pr1jf
@NErDy-pr1jf Ай бұрын
Man I would have LOVED more development and screen time for White Diamond
@heilamwether8911
@heilamwether8911 9 күн бұрын
Tbh, really want to see Steven universe continue, since while it was a lot of our childhoods, I really want to see more of what happens afterwards, and especially, give an end to Steven’s story and tiring up everything neatly, something that in the original series and future, didn’t really happen. I really do hope we get more in the future.
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