X4:Foundations - 5.00 Absolute Beginners Guide | Scrap Economy | Tides of Avarice

X4 - 5.00 Absolute Beginners Guide | Scrap Economy | Tides of Avarice
In this video we cover the new Scrap Economy that has been introduced in Tides of Avarice.
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[@markpalmer2562]

7:53 "He's quite slow when he's tugging it." Giggity

[@TheRuggedGamer]

Giggidy.

[@RK-252]

Giggidy.

[@TheIsaacLester]

... goo! Thanks for the video beratna, I just discovered the game & you're keeping me from spiraling deep into the event horizon of... a black hole sun haha

[@Osmone_Everony]

I'd like to add some more points of interest. 1. The Pioneers sell a blueprint for a specialized scrap processing unit which produces Computronic Substrate and Silicon Carbide. 2. If you want just one ware produced but not the other (maybe there's no demand for it currently) you can do this by manually pulling down the storage capacity down to 1 (0 is not possible). 3. There's a way to overcome scrap shortages in the terran sectors by building a distribution chain. Build a scrap oven in a sector with lots of scrap and let the scrap metal get transported to your scrap processing facility in any other sector. Maybe you need transfer storages in-between due to a far distance. I have a scrap oven in Silent Witness near the gate to Windfall (buillt that before the DLC was released), transfer storages in Getsu Fune and Mars and a scrap processing facility at the Moon.

[@sedatedape315]

Your big scrapper, Tautu (?), wouldn't move by control panel and wouldn't let you take the helm was because it was active in scrapping. Once the drones were finished with the Defense Platform you can move it/take command. Same thing when waiting for cargo to load at a station...won't let you sit down (if you have a captain) or undock until the trade is completed or cancelled.

[@kentmiller9386]

Your tugs can directly process small ships from the map (when [Manticore] tug selected, right click dead ship (doesn't appear over "wrecks") - salvage option is available), larger ships (wrecks) - I'm guessing you need the Large ship [Teuta] with drones to get those, but you can't control the drones directly. Manticore can be assigned to a station to salvage.

[@Ratpack30]

i have salvaged alot with my manticore....or so i thought but never ends up with anything...as it is now it's waste of money spent

[@kentmiller9386]

@@Ratpack30 From what I've seen, the processing centers will only process a single item at a time - meaning, your tugs spend a lot of time waiting for an open slot - so if you make multiple processors, then you can drop off more stuff - at the cost of 100K/h Energy cells per processing station (so, it is quite expensive to keep multiple supplied with energy) - I have a station with 3 of these, but 12 mules suppling them - most of the time I have 4-6 mules waiting to drop off ships (at least, whenever I look at the station). Doesn't seem to matter how much scrap a ship is worth (5 scrap or 1000) - seems to take the same amount of processing time - with no "inventory buildup" available. Also, having multiple processing centers on the station - you have to be able to fully supply them all with energy, or no drop-off occurs (100K each) - if other modules are taking your energy cells so that the inventory drops below that 100K, then they won't start - processing scrap doesn't quite work like the other production modules where they will sit idle until supplied. These seem to sit idle whenever your energy dips below the required threshold, even though they don't pull it all at once. Definitely could use some fine tuning from the Devs on this one.

[@Ratpack30]

@@kentmiller9386 I have ways to go then, cause unless you only get that option to build your own stations when you buy a builder, i don't see anything that produce such. I do have the station from the quest and have set up a energy production and silicon wafer production i can't make wafers, and i do supply the station with silicon...That went outside of what i originally wrote about :P So i guess that to actually take advantage of scrap you need your own station or a L to XL ship to handle that? I love this game but at the same time it's so massive that it's really hard to get lost in the processes ^_^ Also should mention that i've only played for like 3-4 days ingame time so my hourly income is like 1 million credits or so. Mainly get money from lesser mining and selling ships i take over, allthough it's hard to find anyone that will actually leave their ships. All in all, i have a TON to learn i see :)

[@kentmiller9386]

@@Ratpack30 yeah, when I mentioned you can assign a Manticore to a station for salvage, I was referring to your own, built station - that includes the Scrap Processing module. Once you have one of those built, you can assign the Manticore - and it will collect up dead ships in the area (and beyond) --- that Processing plant doesn't use storage --- it "is storage" for a single scrap piece dropped off by a Manticore - and it costs 100K energy cells to convert that to scrap metal that will be stored in "container storage" and processed into Hull Parts and Claytronics -- if you have the other module (Scrap recycler) to do that. --- There is also a Terran version that will give you Computronic Substrate instead of Claytronics You don't really ever have to by the Teuta (Large ship) - unless you want to take stations and L/XL ships apart with it for your tugs to haul off - the AI usually has a couple of these doing it already, so you can just pick up their packages and haul them to your own stations.

[@jasonruys9229]

@@kentmiller9386 You can also assign the Tautu to station salvage but will need to select at least one tug ship as well to have the option. Also as noted above for best result I recommend having 2 stations one for Scrap Processor and one for the Scrap Recycler with a ship transporting scrap metal to the other station

[@jasonruys9229]

What I recommend for most efficient is to have your scrap refinery and your scrap processing as to separate station with a mining ship transporting scrap metal. This is because the energy require for each step can slow down process and can eg. 2000 EC for raw scrap to scrap metal then 2000 EC for metals to wares.

[@FastDuDeJiunn]

I seem to find you almost always have the best videos for this game. explainations. others assume we have basic knowledge of the how it works lol. im like if i understood the basics i wouldnt be watching a video on how it works lol...... so i feel they miss out on identifying their potential audience for certain videos. where as you assume ur talking to a person who never seen anything but the game before. This video fully explained everything i wanted to know about this. i wish u had more views. this games been a hidden gem. but i see from videos the devs really worked on it too with many quality of life updates. i doubt i would of liked this game till last year or so.

[@darkrajin3648]

Personally I have found that Argon Prime, is a great place for a scrapyard. As well as the Asteroid belt.

[@PyroIsBack]

It would have been nice to see how much clay/hull parts you get from X scrap.

[@jasonruys9229]

You can also assign Tautu to station to salvage but will need to select a tug ship as well as the Tautu or will not give you the option

[@blade88343]

I'm unsure if the wreck will appear in the object list; but the reason you didn't anything other than your own property was because you were on the second tab. It only shows your property. You need to click on the first one to see everything :D

[@TheRuggedGamer]

Wrecks dont appear on the map if thats what you mean, ive confirmed with egosoft that they should be interactable but alas they are not :(

[@blade88343]

@@TheRuggedGamer Ah yeah I wasn't sure, I just noticed that you were cycling through looking for the wreck in the ship/station list but while you were on the list that only showed your owned goods :D

[@TheGamerDue]

@@TheRuggedGamer Wrecks can appear on the map! It's in the other section and you can turn it on 😀

[@TheGamerDue]

@@blade88343 Wrecks can appear on the map! It's in the other section and you can turn it on 😀

[@bkmars2832]

The one thing I wonder is if your tugs can drop the processed scrap in an area and go back for another load. Create a cache in space. Say you have both ships but no module on a station.

[@TheRuggedGamer]

Hmmm not sure if im honest, or if they last. Worth a science test.

[@kentmiller9386]

Yes, they can drop stuff - you just disable your turrets, and whatever they were towing will stop being towed - thus dropping it in a location... Tedious, but doable.

[@GTRchild]

The one thing you didn't mention is where you get the blueprint for the scrap processor or recycling module for the station.

[@TheRuggedGamer]

Most of the reps, who sell the normal blueprints, also sell for scrap facilities

[@Anomynous]

Enable "Other" filter on the map to get more options on wrecks (I think)

[@kajanov]

On the map , top right click filter settings. Almost at the top of filter settings are 3 buttons, last of which is "other filters". cli ck that to get options what to display and enable wrecks (they are either disabled by default, or because they did not exist previously. Can't tell which as the map settings are persistent accross all saves/new games)

[@icenote1591]

Where do I get the shield generator for the station? Im guessing its to shield a station from the sun waves that form from time to time. Also, I put my recycling station in hatikvahs choice 1. Xenon are always flooding from tharkas cascade XV which means more dead ships

[@TheRuggedGamer]

You need the module from one of the tides factions, protectyon, if its not available to you, you may need to do some of that storyline first (Im not 100% off top of my head if you need the storyline or not)

[@Biggarou]

wher do you get the blueprint for the factory? that's the only question I have and this video is way too long to wait for him to ramble to the answer if he knows it

[@MrKillerno1]

Or you build a new station where your scrap can be processed. Ps. the beta version (6.0) has adjusted the icons on stations to faster recognizes the right plant.

[@TheRuggedGamer]

And its glorious!

[@K162KingPin]

I'm pretty new to this game but what you are showing doesn't seem to exist in my game. Is this only available from a specific start? 0:54 That Riptide station in my game is owned by Teladi, the windfall gate from that system doesn't seem to exist, the ship isn't available at all from that station. What am I missing?

[@TheRuggedGamer]

This is the guide for 5.0, some people play back older versions so my guides exist for them, if you are playing the latest version you will need the 6.0 guide :)

[@K162KingPin]

@@TheRuggedGamer Well... I got the base game, was fun, started "the young guns", just because it was the first option. Then go the dlc's, but do I need a different start, or just to start a new game for the new content? Nothing about this is more clear than mud. Muddy mud.

[@TheRuggedGamer]

@K162KingPin you can do either. The content is "there" but sometimes an old (none dlc) version does miss start points or youve gone beyond them etc. Its advised to start anew, but dont be pressured to

[@K162KingPin]

@@TheRuggedGamer Can I do either? I did start a new game just to test this. For starters I went to the Argon station rep to see if I could purchase a blueprint for the new scrap station modules. I know I don't have the money on a fresh start but it should still show up as an option and list the price like ever other module. They did not appear in the list. Maybe these can not be purchased from Argon, I don't know, but I don't know why they would sell every other station module except these. Still I suppose its possible they are only obtained in some other way.

[@TheRuggedGamer]

@K162KingPin im rusty, ive been away for a while but if I remember correctly, only some factions have them and/or they are unlocked from research or missions

[@blablabla72]

Hi thx for the video do i need the last dlc for scrapping

[@TheRuggedGamer]

No, its a part of the 5.0 update. :)

[@blablabla72]

@@TheRuggedGamer thx a lot for quick answer appreciate

[@TheRuggedGamer]

@@blablabla72 no worries

[@duncanirvine4657]

love the x games ... but I get too attached to my ships so avoid large sale fights as I dont want to lose any .. even though thats the best bit of the game.

[@Wayne-fe1ed]

Damn, my Riptide doesn't have a shipyard. ...edit... Found it, there was 1 teeny little patch not explored ... lol

[@TheRuggedGamer]

I have also made that mistake, took me ages to find it during the beta!

[@WhateverMan35]

who what where Fucking where when why

[@Raspukek-fu8un]

heh. u say "dos". not daz, but dos. funny accent u hav.