These Are Ruining The DGPT

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[@michaelking1059]

Kind of ironic that Prodigy's horrible baskets punish Prodigy's best player.

[@_antwonTT6]

It's like they take after the owners 😅

[@justbrowsing5279]

They only punish prodigy players. Last year the Prodigy baskets ruined Gannon. He leaves Prodigy. No more spit outs.

[@Arrica101]

Pretty sure he had one this year at the preserve

[@caseysmith544]

Paul McBeth during his final year on Innova in old Disc Golf Pro Tour series Championship, he had an issue with older version basket where outer chains were also having sideway chains same as inside and Paul was forced to use his AviarX3 beuse disc was in champion and he could slam putt his discs without worrying on cracking his main Aivar or warping his Nova. Next year these highest level baskets were no longer made but it took whole season for older model to sell out on stores website. Nobody was buying because price was higher then new update and I suspect company just had people working removing sideways chains and scrapping for money for company or workers at end of summer season.

[@weaponx4937]

I loved Isaac saying his sponsers baskets suck on live coverage

[@BenjaminEklof]

He should get to design a basket instead of a disc this year!

[@MrKporter9]

Brodie out here describing can jam 😂😂

[@mynameisjoe00]

The PDGA needs to come up with a standard basket, not the disc golf companies. We need consistency with putting in disc golf.

[@caseysmith544]

PDGA needs to Ban Prodigy baskets from tournament use unless you can show pictures of every basket the sideways chains are removed. Then PDGA Bans any sideways chain attached to chain baskets from PDGA play unless chains are only a single layer of chains on basket

[@KillRoy117]

The sound of the chains is iconic to disc golf. If you took that away the satisfaction would probably go down.

[@LetsDGBogeyFree]

we'll add a speaker for you that'll make the chain sound.

[@dockslinger3187]

Pro tour should be using rpm helix baskets they look good and catch most everything

[@alexhickman2945]

I'd love to see a design more like RPM baskets. They are beautiful

[@floridariverchamps]

I remember Uli trying to sell me on Prodigy baskets years ago at Worlds... 🤣 How times have changed

[@tonygutermuth9347]

I have the lower end Prodigy baskets on my property. Since they have fewer layers of chains, there is less mass and less "push back" on the disk. I've not experienced any more spit outs of the front of the baskets that any other baskets that I've played on. Prodigy can easily fix this issue with a little engineering effort.

[@ILoveAnimation2]

@baronvonnemblesI don’t think so. I’ve noticed these black baskets are different from their blues in that the black’s horisontal chains have a bit of slack on them. The blue ones does not and the blues catch fairly great. That might be it and that also concludes Uli’s experiment where he placed the disc in the basket and let go🤔

[@TourDownUnderDG]

Give me the RPM Helix or give me death 💀

[@fodank]

I'm glad Helix baskets were so effectively showcased in NZ this year. They are designed well and with an artists touch. Well done RPM.

[@jayjames8026]

i also think those might be the next best baskets

[@madbrendan725]

New Zealand made RPM baskets are designed to let the chain slide along the top rod and catch the disc without throwing it out. So you "CAN" get a different basket.

[@busterschannel4794]

Those baskets need to go to the scrap metal junk yard.

[@MegaFlorest]

Brodie, I hope this changes your opinion on shrinking our baskets. Putts that look like this spit out on bullseye style baskets all the time.

[@user-dc5tc4hn8m]

100%

[@CodiTheJedi]

Just make the bottom cage 1.5 or 2X as large. It will catch all of these lil spit/cut throughs.

[@tillermelnyk]

shrink the chains, but make the basket slightly larger. this allows for a smaller sweet spot to hit, but less good putts will spit out.

[@MegaFlorest]

@@tillermelnyk that'll favor dropping, loftier style putting (a la Barsby, Gurthie, Climo) and I'm not in favor of favoring one style over another. Those style putts still work well with our targets today, but the essence of our sport, is the flight of the disc. We're not dropping a ball into a hole, we're playing catch with the chains.

[@shadowdancenz]

you have close with the RPM helix basket. Ask Drew. He did a YT video where he sang their praises

[@jaredrich6578]

Just get rid of baskets all together and replace them with a big red button. And when you hit it, one of those annoying wall mounted fake fish start bending at the waist and singing "Heard it through the grapevine."

[@carlpledger8719]

what, lol. wasn't ready for that one, but gave me a chuckle.

[@Cristopher1976]

Just get rid of prodigy....period.

[@tommy8151000]

They’re gonna fold this year for sure

[@joshadams8877]

​@@tommy8151000 hah😂

[@warmfridge3320]

Been wishing this for a long while. Ain’t their discs made in China too? Even more reason to get rid of them

[@iliv4disc77]

​. "China is assho."

[@JohnnyD5]

Prodigy is a horribly managed company. Whatever douche is calling the shots needs to check his ego asap!

[@ChristopherBoyer]

Watching the New Zealand tourneys earlier this year with Ellis, Humphries, and Oman, the RPM baskets seemed to catch any disc that touched them.

[@andrewwolverton3762]

Duh, that's in the southern hemisphere, everything is backwards, so spit outs actually attract the disc even more.

[@ryanmussell739]

Are RPM baskets really that good ? The internet seems to love them.

[@fodank]

@@ryanmussell739 I've got a Helix basket in my backyard courtesy of Simon Feasy and RPM. It's solid, high quality, catches well and looks beautiful, so yeah, I'd have to say they're that good.

[@rainerpye4714]

As someone whose home courses are all RPM. Playing any other basket sucks! I have never had a spit out that should have caught. Ever.

[@capandcheese]

We have Prodigy baskets at my home course. Every Tuesday is our doubles league and any card I’m on where someone has a chain spit out we simply say “Prodigy”

[@clawshooter5867]

Happend in professional darts, forever the PDC played on Unicorn boards and Unicorn boards became so hard the had the most bounce outs. So players started using serrated tips to make the stick in the board. So the past year the PDC switched to Winmau boards

[@ludakast76]

I still can't believe it took that long. Ever since Gary Anderson's 180 that fell on the floor I've never used a unicorn dartboard.

[@clawshooter5867]

@ludakast76 for real ! In my city every bar has winmau boards, and we have a no conversion tip policy in our league

[@Rew123]

I actually going back to tone poles is the best idea. Everything you described is basically a fancy way of assessing whether somebody hit the middle of the chains, i.e. the sweet spot. Bring back the pole!

[@ashutteredwarehouse]

I was in the gallery and personally witnessed this. Issac was pissed, but kept it together all things considered. Gannon had a similar moment Sunday. Expressing frustration is so common in other sports. No need for retractions

[@dispooo4523]

they need to just make the cage at the bottom wider..like if you hit chains the disc should stay in. like in basketball, if your ball passes through the rim and into the net, it shouldnt be able to fly out of the net and not count. if the disc hits the chains it should fall in the cage

[@andrewbrooks6882]

How bout no more stainless steel chain,go with galvanized link,it increases friction coefficient,which will decrease spit through. However this is not a perfect world

[@pastorbeaucoffman2214]

There needs to be a standardized basket for the entire dgpt.

[@jasonpatterson2327]

Tone pole with lights. When pole is hit and circuit is completed it beeps and lights up?

[@roberthoeg1964]

Is it possible for different types of plastic the problem or just the baskets?

[@wilcoxstrengthinc]

I have really light chain baskets that also have the horizontal chains and it will grab and spit out putts just like that too

[@craigmccrary6120]

Closest comparison is baseball field dimensions. Distances and sizes of outfield fences vary between ballparks. What could be a homeroom at Fenway is an out at 29 other parks, etc.

[@caseysmith544]

Yes, no standard field or park.

[@NaturalState27]

Hear me out, so we all know there’s baskets out there with triple chains. What if the outer chains are smaller gauge, then the middle chains are slightly larger, followed by the inner chains being the largest? It would give the disc a chance to pass through 2 sets of chains before hitting the biggest, and I think that would almost completely eliminate the chance of it coming back through the first two chain rings. Or, they design chains that slide along the top just enough to keep them from swinging back so hard. Idk, but our local park has baskets from Amazon that are triple chain and they’re PHENOMENAL baskets and the best I’ve played on to date. Haven’t had a spit out yet when I hit it in the center, only when I throw a bad putt and glance off the left side.

[@A77ick]

i remember a soccer World Cup where the players were constantly complaining about the way the ball flew and it was very noticeable to see the ball knuckle around very unpredictably.

[@michealdibenedetto6234]

You need a material towards the center that is like a deadening sheet so good puts don’t pass through and will absorb the energy of puts so they don’t bounce off the pole. . And then a set of chains around that to still potentially grab puts that are left or right of center.

[@1Dreamking]

A. Is it possible to put like "retainer chains" on the chains (attatched to the chains and the center pole of the basket) so they can't swing out from the basket as much and hence not beeing able to push the disc to far back out? B. I was first thinking of having loser chains but that wouldn't help since gravity would pull those chains down and create the same tension anyway I guess. (But maybe the disc would start dropping a bit before the chains start pushing back and hence make it fall lower and have the "guard rails" stop it easier?)

[@sashasashasashasasha]

Make the catch-baskets a little larger in circumference and make that size standard for all PDGA sanctioned events.

[@RR-dj8vf]

What about in bowling when they bowl a perfect shot hitting exactly in the pocket where they were aiming and then get a split or something?

[@karmalord]

Ok, I said this recently after seeing Wysocki get robbed from the fairway a few tournaments ago. Baskets are faulty. If a light/ buzzer is not good enough, make it mechanical. If it impacts it, the device will register a score. The impact will be the amount registered on the pole.

[@chrislemke6788]

What about a window screen type material that is attached around the top band and goes down to the bottom of the inside part of the basket at an inward angle?

[@ChaseMarchand1998]

Cale has had his filthy hands all over the state (MN) here… 90% of notable courses in the state have them and people are over it. No doubt he makes profit off every single one installed in the state.

[@DiscGolfAddict]

😂😂😂he’s just a sponsored player. He dosent have a stake in prodigy

[@ryansuter4424]

I actually like the idea that if the majority of your card hears the sound of the chains then you score it.

[@jasonfarrow1072]

I compare the basket issue to MLB home run wall, outfield walls in baseball are all different depths in different places, some hometown teams gain a huge advantage from this when it comes to home runs Use the same baskets for every tournament

[@pmac7641]

Imagine a professional bowling event where the pins were more weighted on the bottom and pins just randomly didn't fall over. Imagine a professional darts tournament where the board randomly rejected darts 5% of the time. Imagine a swim meet where the timers sometimes didn't register when the swimmer hit the wall. Bad equipment leading to more randomness is a HORRIBLE look for any sport trying to be taken seriously. These trash baskets gotta go. It's honestly ridiculous we are still using them.

[@brooksy3069]

the small area thing wont work, buzzer can break or go faulty and ppl will say "what the heck i hit the spot and it didn't go off" next idea

[@Catalyst8487]

Yeah, you'd need a robust instant replay system as well, and I don't even think the rules allow for any kind of instant replay today.

[@johngdrums420]

I had the rotating basket "hole" idea as well.

[@adambloemendal3482]

I think they should use bike tubes or strands of rubber instead of chains. Make them loose so that they don't act like elastics. They are a grippy material and should "catch" the disc.

[@JudeforLess]

The soccer analog would be how the ball is stitched which greatly affects aerodynamics. They change the patten just about every year for international play, and there's infamous balls that were nightmares for keepers to track the knuckle ball shots

[@zenphony]

Brody was trying to think of another sport where this is a problem, I think there are several places you could look early in sports when they were becoming more popular or going professional. One that comes to mind is the backboards and the hoops for basketball used to be problematic in different ways before they came up with breakaway rims, and backboards that could hang farther out over the court and even the types of flooring.

[@RaleighRich]

So I have made my own disc golf baskets & when I Googled the dimensions & parameters I specifically used the 6 inner & 12 outer chains design. Mimicking the disc catcher style of old. It works great! I don't understand why disc golf basket manufacturers are trying new chain configurations & design when the 6 & 12 chain design works fine. I think the chain links connecting the inner & outer chains is ridiculous! Like Uli said. They spit the disc out.

[@Sharky-DG]

Remove all horizontal chains. Keep everything else. Spitouts are part of the game and make for great suspense/drama. Any basket with discs coming through the bottom of the basket should be removed.

[@flipflopmech]

I use a blowfly putter or floppy putter when I see prodigy baskets, leaning baskets, or high roll away risk baskets.

[@Qcn0xa]

The problem with Prodigy baskets are simply the horizontal chains. I think Isaacs putt went into that square pocket of chains and couldn't fall down like in other baskets, so the chains pushed it out. Last year his putter rolled on top of one of those horizontal chains and went through. In other baskets the putter would've fallen between the chains, and just maybe hit the cage on the backside if anything. I think the only big problem with other baskets is when the chains don't slow you enough, and you hit the pole too hard and bounce back. I don't think we need to change the size of the basket. Just try different combinations of vertical chains to see what catches the best. Heavier chains in the middle to make the last effort to slow the disc down before the pole, and lighter chains on the outside, so they don't push the putters out. Just see what works the best.

[@zGingaSnapz]

Honestly just make the basket wider on them. The chains shouldn’t be practically the same width as the basket it drops into

[@ttchmp]

Baskets are a part of the game. If everyone thinks they are bad then they are being consistent with everyone

[@mattbroughton750]

Brodie and his BasKiT DrAAMa! 😭😭. #GOSSIPGIRLS

[@Grannyknockers]

I actually like the canjam idea. Make the basket to where a tap in is 6’-8’ not 20’

[@grimreker99]

Yay my question :) Gotta make a standard DGPT basket

[@nicholasmoreno7904]

The fix is simple. increase the diameter of the tray by 6 inches. A spit out almost always falls off the top of the tray. If they were wider they would fall in.

[@crunchy_dg1191]

And decrease the size of the chains. AND get rid of the damn horizontal chains.

[@nicholasmoreno7904]

💯

[@AxisDiscPowers]

Or just lower the top band so you can't hit the chains so high making the basket smaller essentially. That way you could easily modify existing baskets all over the world.

[@crunchy_dg1191]

@@AxisDiscPowers Lowering the top band doesn't fix how wide it is at the top, which is the reason for the push-outs. Only lowering the top band would create MORE push/chain outs. Either entirely narrow the top assembly (think marksmen baskets) or widen the cage.

[@AxisDiscPowers]

@@crunchy_dg1191 Hm... Maybe I wasn't clear. I meant like an ad on. Just put a band on to the basket's top band that builds down. Like a plastic sheet 7' wide that you wrap around the existing top band. Cheap easy fix if you want your existing basket to follow the new regulations.

[@darlacase7168]

Ok - I got it! have the top connection point of the chains on a bar about 4" long that is tilted up towards the pole so that when the chains are hit high the top of the chain strand can slide in and up creating a shock absorber effect. I'll need 10 % of the profits 😄

[@harlanzip]

It’s an easy solution for me, shrink the chains and expand the bucket

[@Ellothere42]

Was thinkin the same thing, make the bucket bigger

[@harlanzip]

@@Ellothere42 exactly. Probably an extra 2 inches of diameter on the bucket would reduce spit outs by 50% or more.

[@QaIeb]

Easy solution. Don't use prodigy baskets

[@davesage4931]

I was typing same thing but thought someone has to have thought of it and you did. Seems to make sense but will never happen. Too much of a change.

[@davebenoit5388]

Pdga has specs for target area and basket size and number of chains. Can’t deviate from that

[@ryanmussell739]

I am looking at expanding our local course by 9 baskets. I can get prodigy baskets the quickest and band colour of my choice. After the video, I am looking at different baskets.

[@newbishere1351]

The reality is that equipment fails all the time across all sport.its more common in some sports than others but its just a part of the game. Bats break all the time, every now and then a ball goes right through a glove and a runner is called safe since the ball was “dropped”. In motor sports, there are mechanical failures all the time and it cost drivers podiums, wins etc. Baskets failing and spitting good putts, is unfortunate and sometimes heartbreaking when a player loses strokes because the basket “failed”. I think it’s difficult to say but the only reasonable decision I could see if universal baskets at all pro tour events and also maybe a new rule that a card or third party rule enforcer can make a group decision that the out should of been good and perhaps give a retake with 0 stroke penalty, just a re attempt basically. But idk if that’s the best solution.

[@brandonfbomb_2327]

It's like if someone were to try and steal a base, and the base itself was a trampoline, but they wouldn't know until they hit said base. Inexcusable for any money involved game!!!

[@andyhampsten4252]

If it spits from holding it to the pole and letting go, that basket has to go

[@tonymac2634]

i dont see as many 'bounce/kick' outs on baskets that dont have those sideways link chains?

[@djhollowman9567]

Question for Uli, So, like a 6" red band around the pole in the center of the basket?

[@ryansuter4424]

I agree that it is better to use baskets that have higher catch rate than other baskets. That said everyone has to use the same basket.

[@ThomasYou2011]

just a suggestion. thicker chain or make the basket a little deeper. that will make the chain longer which i think a longer chain will not have that abrupt chain return inertia/force. i don't know maybe ask a engineer do some math and get a better answer than mine...lol

[@pastorbeaucoffman2214]

Making the baskets larger would solve the problem.

[@RobertDuBois]

I would love to see them play on a skinny chain basket. Keep the basket the same size but bring the chains in about halfway. It wouldn't shoot straight back out and make putting a lot harder. Just like Big J and Paul said in last week's video. These pros "gimmes" are at 10 feet now. I know I will get some pushback on this but there is just not a lot of finesse when it comes to putting. Players can putt it from 10 feet away with the speed that would send them 30 feet past and still make it. There really is no risk because these players C1 ratings are insane.

[@jeffreydheere4737]

Everybody can have their own basket designs, lets just standardize the chain weight. I'm not saying the thickness of the links, but take the total chains and they have to comply to an official range of weight. The company can then distribute those chains however they want on a basket; single row, double rows, cross chains, what ever.

[@themechanicalhound9932]

Turf still being used in the NFL is kinda similar in a way i feel. The players don't want it but the NFL doesn't seem to care.

[@michaelmaniloff9297]

Some dome cities really need the turf though.

[@themechanicalhound9932]

Vegas and Arizona are indoor grass.

[@michaelmaniloff9297]

@themechanicalhound9932 they have a new technology roof, cool. I've heard some turf is okay, but one type of turf is the big issue. (Giants stadium)

[@caseysmith544]

​@@michaelmaniloff9297 Old Bills stadium the turf or foam was another as was no grip in any kind of precip be it rain or sow and foam in winer on cold days sometimes became so hard players were so messed up they could not walk again or players had brain injures when foam was hard. Giants have all kinds of issues and field was a major reason Jets moved from said stadium.

[@rogerreid5925]

Yes you have bad spit outs sometimes. You have to admit though that some players blame the basket when the putt wasn’t good ie: high and left on the chains (Gannon Buhr) Sometimes it’s not the basket it’s the putt. That said there is a very clear difference between baskets.

[@dbailey9954]

It’s funny that we get to the worst basket on tour to try to prove that simply using better “touch” isn’t the solution. Disc golf shouldn’t be about power shots on every scenario. Touch shots of any type are being forced out so we can watch big throws.

[@Freddyalvizo]

Brody out here creating brand new words to the English language. I mean let’s not use “electrical” or “electronic” there isn’t enough drama in either of them words. Let’s combine and create a whole new words with more flair and drama. “Electronikal”

[@mawage666]

I think the chains are just too heavy. At least the inside chains anyway. What about leaving the outside chains as they are, but those inside chains made out of plastic or some kind of lighter material? So it would still catch the disc but not have that bounce back effect.

[@OriginalJud]

His disc gets vertical in the chains and sets down on the horizontal chains and rolls backwards off the chain shelf

[@andrewwolverton3762]

Forget chains. You need a pole, equipped with a metal sleeve that makes a loud ringing sound (a tone as it were) when struck, audible for hundreds of feet. Not sure what to call it...

[@daemn42]

Rare earth magnets embedded in the rim of the disc. Sticks to the existing chains.

[@hangmantrees]

They were originally called Pole Holes. The chains were added to confirm the pole was hit. Just make it a group decision that the pole was hit, when inside circle two.

[@MrSmith-rk4jq]

still dont get why there isnt a standard basket for dg pro tour events

[@TheGreatestJuJu]

Isn’t that the “Tonal” disc golf originally had? It was just a pole that made a ding sound when you hit it.

[@TheLuklear]

Disc golf needs to have a standardized basket. Its the only sport where the targer or goal, is different tournament to tournament. Can you imagine if every basketball court had different hoops.

[@connorcampbell885]

What is similar is they used a new reinvented rubber basketball and it ended up only lasting in the NBA for a month.

[@mattijsh1]

Any actual stats or research on spitouts?

[@KillRoy117]

Nope what we see on coverage is the stats. 4 person sample size is enough right?😂

[@mattijsh1]

@@KillRoy117 exactly mate :D

[@kurtdempsey3804]

Chain whiskers thin enough they wouldn’t keep it out of the basket, but would help it not bounce out.

[@boondockgames8805]

they could replace disc golf baskets with a can jam style basket, similar to Brodejo's idea but less mechanical/automated.

[@brandonfbomb_2327]

So I was going to try and make a product myself that would solve some of these problems and make a more unified putt "feel". Life is not gonna allow me to invent my product, so here you go world! A 1/4-1/2" thick silicone rubber sleeve on the pole. Step one The inside chains are lighter gauge than the outside chains. Step two Both steps manage, but not excuse "zippy" putts, therefore leveling that facet

[@alxx26]

In bowling sometime you get a split from a good shot..only sport i can think of that have that

[@McSkinny336]

Bro just invented Can Jam…

[@ryanmcguigan3508]

Magnetize the discs! There is your fix for Prodigy baskets. Or just place them where they belong in the trash. Both are better options then what we have now.😂

[@kyleorr7039]

1. Standardize the baskets. 2. Putts count 3 ways, first, it comes to rest in the basket, second, it comes to rest in the chains within the top and bottom of the outer rim of the basket, third, the putter hits the center pole between the upper and lower outer rim, DONE, end of all arguments.

[@P4ddyC4ke]

Sometimes in stick golf where the greens are too fast or they have huge false fronts and shots that hit the middle of the green won't stick.

[@joshadams8877]

Sounds like different baskets on different courses should stay the standard and players will learn to adapt more styles of putting if they want to compete on every course.

[@christophergoettl265]

I think the RPM baskets catch pretty well. Why not import them from the Kiwi's? Beautiful baskets that catch well. A win, win!

[@paulgoudfrooij6561]

Well, those Prodigy baskets really do suck.

[@hyzer6435]

With any basket, every link on every chain presents the potential to affect how the disc reacts when it hits them. You could not even write a physics equation to address the variables involved. Other sports have a much less complicated way to finish (hoop/basketball, hole/ball golf, net/soccer & hockey, goalposts/football, etc). Solution: Eliminate the chains and the pole, and, so the disc can fall downward and not spin and roll/jump out of a now shallow chain-less/pole-less basket, keep the basket size as is but then the basket tapers, like a funnel, all to the way to where it mounts into the ground. Now aces by players would be much more rare (like ball golf). Long putts would be much less successful and lag putting would be very important (like ball golf). Not trying to make disc golf the same as ball golf, just trying to make how one completes a hole in disc golf to be as uncomplicated as it is in ball golf. To me, more uncomplicated = more fair. Pipe dream , yeah. You'd have to retro-fit everything, but in the long run, these new "baskets" would be a lot cheaper to make and the sport would be more fair.

[@benoconnor7034]

Someone needs to actually test all the different baskets using a robot or something. I don’t really see any concrete evidence to say that these baskets are significantly worse than others. There are always a few spit outs at every tour event so this doesn’t seem like a super unique situation.

[@tommy8151000]

If you don’t see what’s wrong you obviously never have to use these baskets 😂

[@daemn42]

Cept I think Isaac got spit out three times in one round, and his putt is not a rocket like say Gannon's. The cross chains were just holding the discs up and not letting em drop, so when the chains swing back they eject the disc. And one of them the disc still got all the way through and out the other side onto the ground (the very thing the cross chains are supposed to prevent), but it was made worse because they held the disc up higher.

[@18bigegan]

Play a round on a course that uses Prodigy baskets and you'll have all the evidence you need to confirm Prodigy baskets are the worst there is

[@benoconnor7034]

@@tommy8151000I’ve actually played on them quite a bit and I can’t recall ever having a bad spit out on one. I think this conversation is partially motivated by the fact that prodigy baskets already have a bad reputation because they only catch discs in the middle which is an entirely separate concern. I’m not saying that Isaac’s spit-outs weren’t bad, but all baskets spit-out good putts from time to time and I think we need a controlled way to actually test which ones are better.

[@ztsb_koneko]

You kind of have a point, but the design of these baskets is just so much more visibly flawed. Look at a classic DiscCatcher that occasionally leaks one through or off the sides or off the pole, but at least that's usually because of an imperfect throw. With these cross-chain designs we're seeing what looks to be a perfect putt and the basket PUSHED the disc out - not just leaked or failed to catch it, but the design actively rejected the disc.

[@justindillon200]

Velcro chains? Uh, no. We don't need the baskets to catch EVERYTHING if it brushes by the chains. A bad shot, whether it is too much speed or off to the side a bit, is a bad shot. The problem with these baskets is the square/web design. The weight of the chains and the fact that the design doesn't allow for the vertical links to separate and catch the disc is what the problem is. As Uli described...he placed a disc against the pole in the square portion of the basket and it pushed the disc out. That's a problem.

[@quadrumvirate86]

Would love to see RPM helix become the standard for all courses

[@tkuczun]

2:34 MLB has had years of “juiced” baseballs, even uniforms this year have been complained about.

[@arr64lima63]

I've been commenting for a while that there should be a standard basket for all PDGA Silver and above events. The ball golf target is exactly the same every time. Why can't disc golf be the same?

[@callawaycass5148]

He needs to take it up with his sponsor. I do believe you need to putt with touch, but those baskets rejected some pretty soft putts.

[@bgrune1]

No basket is perfect. People always complain and there will always be spit outs. That said I am starting to think these Prodigy baskets may be worse than most.