These Are Runescape's Biggest Noob Traps [OSRS]

Over the years of my runescape history I have seen so many people fall for what I would like to call, a noob trap. Something in OSRS that might seem like a good idea for a lower level player to have or do, but in the end it is a massive waste of time.
Most of these are going to be something that will be good to go for when you are a higher level because the time that it takes for you to get it. One great example as you can see from the thumbnail is getting your graceful set. This is something that will just happen passively later when you train agility. Don't waste your time grinding out Graceful on OSRS.
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Chapters:
00:01 Intro
00:30 Graceful
02:19 Void
03:33 Ignoring Quests
05:05 Ignoring Dailies
07:16 Gp Focussed Gameplay
08:45 Bad Money Makers
09:52 Do not Buy these
11:44 Buying Bonds with GP
12:35 Fear of New Things
14:07 Important Life Advice
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[@patyfatycake_OSRS]

While I do love farming engagement, It seems like some of you missed the point of the graceful section. It's better to focus on agility xp, than graceful. It's not worth farming out graceful at terrible xp rates once you have unlocked something better. Notably, the wilderness course at 47 which is roughly 4x the xp of canifis.

[@halxdiaz]

Not taking into consideration down time due to pkers and money spent sounds a bit sketchy tbh

[@patyfatycake_OSRS]

@@halxdiaz wdym?

[@superslamgames8068]

@@patyfatycake_OSRS wildy course costs money to get the top xp rates and now that it gives drops its a pk spot so you will spend time getting back and also money lost if you have equipment, did you not understand how the wildy course rework works?

[@patyfatycake_OSRS]

@@superslamgames8068 You can choose to do it free of charge. Even with getting pked i'm 99% sure its more xp than the canifis course which was the point.

[@cnnhdlvth9557]

Hear me out here... if you actually get an entire quest cape worth of cheating through the quests, you might be a sociopath.

[@MuhestaGames]

"Why not wait with Graceful for 20 more levels?" >Hard Kandarin My guy.

[@taskforce420airsoft]

70 fishing, fetching, prayer, defence, 75 smithing 50 construction 65 fire making 60 woodcutting, and defence like i can agree in the aspect that you should chase EXP over marks because by the time you hit 80 you will have most of the graceful outfit but man some of his takes are the dumbest takes ive seen.

[@justin9744]

@@taskforce420airsoftdude is actually dumb

[@AugustStanke]

Dont play this game until you maxed

[@Gymthingz]

Bot till maxed then play

[@icklepickle8443]

@@Gymthingztried to multiple times back in the day and get banned as level 30/40 every time, now I play my pure regularly and actually enjoy playing it. Botting just ruins the experience

[@Gymthingz]

@@icklepickle8443 back then, you had to play legit then bot. Now they only ban gold farmers.

[@transgenderedmuhammad8817]

⁠@@Gymthingzthis!! Do abunch of quests, get your levels up legit in some skills, then bot. Don’t bot like an idiot and you’ll be fine

[@Gymthingz]

@@transgenderedmuhammad8817 bro your name ☠️💀🪦

[@lancejohnson3278]

Getting graceful is so easy and so nice to have as early as possible. Hard diary has a lot of requirements and you can use all those marks on Stam potions at that point.

[@jollygrapefruit786]

It's definitely optional on main accounts considering you can buy teleport tabs and energy pots, but on Ironman accounts it should be your first priority.

[@ANONM60D]

Questing without graceful in the eqrly game is a very long walk

[@adhizzle9985]

stamina potions are expensive af too, i like strange fruit but you also need money for that :/. i managed to get most of my agility (61 rn) from mainly questing & using the xp lamps on it lol.

[@collwyr]

The Seers agility method is pretty darn misleading in this, considering you wouldn't have the stats capable of doing Hard diary, it'd just be much easier to farm it out in Canny and using that gear to do quests than to have to go through a bunch of quests without it before getting to the stage of the account that is capable of doing hard diary.

[@Moollen]

WiTh the HaRD DiarY. Homie wild.

[@ravenreaper754]

@@Moollen "just complete the hard diary" meanwhile im over here never able to get the medium diary done cause i can never get into a game of Barb assault cause ive never played it before

[@Moollen]

@ravenreaper754 there are some nice clan chats for it, they'll help you. I lost my torso in the wilderness before taking a break for a few years. But the grind was not bad at all with people who knew what was up

[@ravenreaper754]

@@Moollen ill have to check that out when i get home in the morning, not trying to do full runs of it, just need at least one round for diary, but anytime ive tried would get kicked for being new

[@jake8748]

​@ravenreaper754 same here. Can do hard except haven't done Barbarian assault. Also Seers is 100x better even without hard diary than staying at canifis to get full graceful. Staying at canifis your agility will be mid 50s most likely with full graceful. Seers you will likely end up 70 or higher starting it at 60 which is needed to complete questing. You also don't really need full graceful, boots of lightness and spottier cape work great to start with. The run without the teleport isn't that much worse. I do about 80 laps per hour speed and one mark per 5 or so laps. Canifis is I think 90 laps and 1 mark per 4 laps or so but about 1/3 experience rate. So you'll take about 20% more time for graceful but be about a 3rd or less of the experience that you will still need to grind anyway. Also bonus with seers is you can easily mix it into other skilling. Clue scroll taking you around seers, run 5 laps. Doing some woodcutting/forestry. Run a few laps during bank runs etc. Canifis is far more out of the way to just stop by.

[@AustinsThicc]

Why you gotta come for me like that? “Scared of raids because you actually have to talk to people”😅

[@FlynuffPSC]

Wanna do raids with me?

[@stooge389]

IT'S AN OSRS TRADITION TO BE COMPLETELY ASOCIAL LOL. WE'RE ALL LEARNING HOW TO SOCIALIZE SLOWLY THROUGH RUNESCAPE THIS GAME IS A NET POSITIVE SOCIAL GOOD FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF PLAYERS

[@lvlagesfire]

To many scammers

[@Patwick]

@@FlynuffPSC DAMN ignored HE WAS RIGHT

[@ShAdOw7007PvP]

Just solo

[@alexc5618]

I got my graceful by lvl 56, don't even remember because I watched breaking bad

[@TheSizzleDash]

lol I’ve been (re)watching BB while playing OSRS too.

[@colbycheese710]

Just finished BB myself and grinded graceful. I use graceful for everything it’s so clutch and now I’m about to start Better Call Saul for my slayer grind

[@rob2533]

@@colbycheese710 Just a reminder. We are grinding BB while finishing graceful

[@jake8748]

​​​@Tar-mairon-re8oiits hundreds of laps. Something like 15+ hours of doing the same lap at canifis and you still aren't at 70 needed for SotE quest (about 56). Seers is about 17-20 hours without hard diary but you'll be over 70 agility or close to it. You also don't really need boots and cape as there is non graceful options for that (and gloves I guess). I did canifis till 50 and a small amount of fally but also did some other things in between to get experience and alot of lamps aswell and switched to seers at 60, 400ish laps there im now 70 and almost finished graceful (15 marks for boots and lost 5 marks to some bug). All up 1000 laps between the 2 courses and almost done graceful but instead of being 56 at canifis im 70+. Without lamps and stuff I think id probably have hit 70 agility or been close to it at full graceful. If I stayed at canifis id still be looking at 10ish hours of agility and likely rooftops to get to 70 I needed.

[@RedSlugah]

yea i have 771 laps in canifis and don't even remember too lol, also i kinda wanted gracefull to look cool while questing, so it was too much for me to wait until 60 to grind it

[@ThatGuyKyleS]

I completely disagree with the don’t camp Canfis for graceful. First this is assuming you have Seers hard diary done which is a big if. Second. This doesn’t account for time/ gp you save by getting graceful early to wear for questing. I did canifus rooftop until I got graceful then focused on questing for awhile before training agility again

[@AnhNguyen-hn9vj]

canifis for graceful is horrible. big mistake. best to do canifis until lvl 40 and change to new agility course likke brimheaven or something. go back to get graceful set at seer village at lvl 60.

[@jake8748]

It actually will result in gp lost from time investment doing canifis over seers for the set. You will get enough marks for graceful from 60-70 on seers (800ish laps needed) . 70 needed for quest cape. Hard diary is nice and makes it better but even without id prefer 3x experience that seers offers over 2-4 marks per hour. Total cost difference between the 2 course via amylase crystals value is a few hundred gp but the time saved is 10+ hours if you went to wildy course or some other better methods in between 40 and 60. Or as I did, I used lamps and exp boosts on agility to skip rooftops. Just depends on if you want to get agility to 70 or full graceful first. Personally I did canifis for chest and legs. Boots of lightness and spotty cape. Then seers for gloves, hood, cape and just about at my boots now with 70 agility.

[@angerbooze3362]

This Jake guy keeps commenting about canifis being inefficient but he is just wrong. Graceful at canifis is the optimal way and will save the most time while questing. If you're an iron it's a no brainer, if you're a main, well it's still optimal but it really doesn't matter. You act like you get more exp with another method until 60 and like you don't do seers after 60 if you have graceful... Which you could skip to sepulchre if you had full graceful which is far superior to seers anyways. You don't magically become 60 to do seers you have to grind it, and anything besides getting graceful is not optimal sub 60. Sorry Jake

[@screaminsilence81]

@@AnhNguyen-hn9vj you know... you can only do the canifis course at lvl 40 and beyond right .... so doing it untill lvl 40 is quite... impossible XD also doing brimhaven at low lvls is dumb as the dart traps will mess you up xD

[@XenFPV]

Also not all playtime is equal. I remember I got mine at canifis during lunch breaks at work on my phone. I would not have spent that time questing or doing anything more effort intensive.

[@3RacoonsInATrenchCoat]

Quick note on void: Medium CAs also get you 7 points per veteran game. This tier is more realistic for people actually on the void grind, especially irons (btw)

[@cannottrust3710]

True. New players arent doing 50 each GWD boss + 87 slayer for Kraken BEFORE void.

[@dandelion44444]

Void is useless you dont use that anywhere but tob

[@3RacoonsInATrenchCoat]

@@dandelion44444 It's perfectly good at Vorkath, Zulrah, Fight Caves, and other PvM where you want multiple styles and decent defense, but you're not at endgame gear.

[@eprimchad2576]

​@@dandelion44444 void is super useful in a ton of areas if you dont have max gear, especially for people that arent used to 6/8 way gear switching its alot better to just change helmet and weapons

[@froszty]

Getting graceful and agility early is probably one of the best starts to any account. You get better run energy with the higher levels, and you also get a set of gear that is an amazing substitute for your lack of energy/stam potions, that you can wear around the game while you spend 80% of your time running around early game anyway.

[@Xphoenix7X]

Wtf, my guy got a haircut mid video, efficient

[@TwoWheelNinja]

He really wanted to sell that he's got a life outside of OSRS

[@crucifergaming4092]

@@TwoWheelNinja i thought my man joined up.

[@sam_marley]

Sins of the father before graceful seems…silly

[@timhK1995]

I’ve got a quest cape and still not done graceful hahah, as a main I’d rather just buy stams than waste hours running laps

[@vesical7952]

How its easy at 70 you can get 20 an hour and bang it out in a evening. ​@@timhK1995

[@cocofashosho]

@@timhK1995tbh rooftops aren’t bad if you’re just watching KZbin or something while doing so. Also, Hallowed Sepulchre is actually fun and engaging. Good xp and gp per hr PLUS the sick black graceful

[@JD-bj6dc]

​@timhK1995 you get graceful just by leveling agi. Such a useless conversation tbh. Anyone that doesn't have it is doing agi wrong

[@PattyGoesZoom]

Video immediately outdated on release, crazy

[@InconspicuousStranger]

I know, bro is clueless

[@magne7771]

​@@InconspicuousStranger bro ALL the efficiencyscapers are. I came back from LoL too, and you don't hear ME pushing some Ranked Only High ELO meta on other players. Because it doesn't BELONG here. It's the EXACT same issue as in RS3, where they kept trying to add in Jak & Daxter bosses, to a goddamn topdown point-and-click adventure game, as if they belonged in this genre. For the over 20 years I've played, since both before AND after the saber clan, RS has been a slow, methodical game. It was literally designed so you could stop and Examine the Roses. ..but no, if you're not constantly wearing BIS gear or doing shitty boss/raid content made to appease those 1ticking bug abusers, for the most ridiculously priced gear, YOU'RE playing the game wrong -.- There IS no playing the game wrong. It's OUR adventure.

[@nofluffagain]

​@@magne7771sounds like you're a noob at Lol and RuneScape.

[@GBEWgw2]

​@@magne7771 yeah you sound like a huge noob lol

[@magne7771]

@@GBEWgw2 oh well, shit sorry I'm not autistic enough to play _my_ games _your_ way

[@andyman301]

Repeatedly doing the Canifis course got me to full graceful like 10 laps before 60 agility. Also a hard diary is a pretty high requirement.

[@bloomleaf8310]

U was 58 agility by the time I got mine.

[@PulledPurk]

@@bloomleaf8310 56 for me. you can get 18 marks an hour in canfis

[@willing_to_learn]

Those marks rate for the seer course are with the diary. That's a tough sell for a new account. Canifis graceful isn't at all a waste of time though I would also consider / advise doing barb fishing to fairly high levels just to reduce failure rate before heading over to the rooftops.

[@Dead1yProductions]

"don't use guthans just bring food or use blood spells " Me: afks slayer for ever while I play other games on the side don't ever check my character .

[@MadMalMan]

Yeah I was surprised about Guthans, its cheap as hell probably cheaper than the food you would spend

[@miju2596]

I wouldnt call getting graceful early a noob trap, theres plenty of quests youll be thankful you have it for with the bonus run restore. Irons dont have access to staminas like regular players do. 40-56 does not take that long on rooftops and with the update today giving a bit more exp for rooftops specifically i dunno why youd genuinely suggest they level by doing barb fishing over just getting it

[@rayneforrest7582]

This guy makes me think if "Graham Stephan" became a runescape mentor.

[@UniversityOfMassachusets]

Omfg you nailed it

[@jacobbyington5534]

“It’s summer. There’s plenty to do out there” - Casper the hypocritical ghost

[@eurasiacentertutorials9518]

Also as a 99 farmer Chad (95 combat lmao) I only really concentrate one patch of herbs, at the farmers guild, where I teleport often as my "hub" the rest of the patches are a "if I have time" thing and I usually go around planting some herbs and if I am around the area or feel like it I grab them all for a few 100K..

[@jake8748]

If doing mahogany homes, or cooking in hosidius for the range buff, the disease free hosidius patch nearby to the xerics talisman teleport is a great one to use too. I just keep using it for watermelons for compost, limpwurts and herbs.

[@Darkfire889]

Herb runs are for iron men. I don't play daily scape Edit: I love that this is annoying you enough to reply

[@JM-pk2nv]

@@Darkfire889 nobody asked.

[@p.looshh]

@@Darkfire889 just tell yourself in your head you don’t like farming, and leave it at that

[@zipcondo9317]

Just wanted to show I enjoy your videos. Don't even need half the tips as ive been playing for time but still enjoy watching. Keep up the good content.

[@Roel93]

"The biggest noob trap is playing Runescape in the summer months." 😂👍 I wish I had taken that wisdom to heart as a teenager. I wasted too many summers.

[@stooge389]

7:17 ABSOLUTE best advice for new players. You don't need that much money, AND you can't make that much money efficiently anyways. Just work on training, questing, building your gameplay skills, and unlocking untradeables. Much better than acting like RS is a job and you just have to clock in, spend X hours doing the "most efficient" money maker, to afford something. If you play like that, you'll quit, because it isn't fun to force yourself to play like that.

[@scape001]

Having a max fire cape and putting this video out is insane lol

[@LBenn302]

you have a max fire cape? or youre saying he does?

[@deeznuts3472]

@@LBenn302 yeah the youtubers max cape is a fkin fire cape lmfao

[@the-golden-god]

@@LBenn302 pizza cape

[@LBenn302]

@@the-golden-god huh? I don’t even see my initial reply lol

[@wolflordass5278]

I love how people say you need your quest cape nowadays..... thats a whole damn desert treasure 2

[@nifegun]

My one thing is "have fun" so many players have lost the plot man. Everyone is so caught up in tick perfect this and use all the plug ins to turn it into a tile clicking simulator. People! This game is a fantasy RPG and one of the best one's! It's charming, witty, funny. You're not some god selected hero destined to save the world, you're just an adventurer who wants cool stuff and cool powers. Don't be afraid to get into that. Thats the best part of the game and you can enjoy it at any level. Click the funny dialogue options, be a jerk to NPCs, have fun with it. Finally, stop forcing your tick perfect, no time waste BS on the people who can still have fun. People keep telling me I'm playing "wrong" because I'm not afking at crabs and I kill everything with knives, even when the mob is weak to magic. I don't care, I'm having a blast, my adventurer solves every problem by throwing knives, that's the role I am playing and I'm loving it, that shouldn't bother you lol. But boy have I made people mad on reddit over this

[@l0lan00b3]

Haha a knife tossing expert assassin xD that might be good at cooking. This is how I play my game too xD my pure is a farmer called to action, as a wizard, wildy, ranger. Sometimes I just do fishing to relax on my off days.

[@giusepperecchia970]

yes you can play a sandbox mmo any way you want, theres no "wrong way to play" but for people with the goal of hard end game it can take a long time to reach. due to the time investment its worth it maximize the time you put in. If you want to sit there at crabs and knife til 99 cool no one will stop you, but dont complain about people who want more bang for their buck time wise

[@nifegun]

@@giusepperecchia970 I will never afk at crabs period. But bro, you're losing the plot. The players who play how they want and have fun aren't the ones telling anyone they're doing it wrong. It's the three tick, no time wasted crew. Those people need to chill tf out lol

[@TheSizzleDash]

Well clearly you don’t get the point of runescape. You grind till you fuckin die. Ooohhh yeah!

[@anonymouse7074]

The new meta in gaming is minmax to endgame

[@IsAMank]

Inferno nearly fucking killed me, but after getting the cape at 51 attempts/4th zuk (bowfa), I genuinely think I can take on anything in this game

[@xQsBNoSCoPeZz]

I have to say, void and not elite is worth it in the early game, because its really good low level armour for pretty much free Edited part I used reg void, up untill I got my first 80m and don't regret it one bit. Prayer bonus+attack stats omg so usefull

[@user-we2yb9zs9y]

Great guide, you put a lot of things into great perspective, I definitely made a lot of these mistakes.

[@ImmortalNidhogg]

I learned to just ride woodcutting and cooking crafts into several tens of thousands of common runes for skilling magic into the varrock teleport as I play the game. Very useful, well pointed video here early game gold farming is a totally misread thing.

[@daydreaming5365]

I've been living off bonds on OSRS since they were released basically and haven't started regretting it until very very recently now that they're over 10m. All the dailies mentioned can generally be enough to make that every two weeks for about a fifth of the time. Definitely spent way too much money on bonds but it never really bothered me.

[@johnorange4223]

Do you have any idea if there is a plug-in that helps with tracking daily tasks or gives arrows like a Quest Helper would to complete those dailys?

[@md34411]

There is - it gives you a red notification on login if you havent claimed the ones you care about (mainly bstaffs and dynamite)

[@VtecBrapp]

Great videos bro keep it up 👍

[@jollygrapefruit786]

I would say graceful is actually quite optional on normal accounts, but on Ironman accounts, it's absurdly good for literally everything. The earlier you can get it, the better.

[@M6DUSA]

Honestly the best way to start account is to pick the account type, then google a speedrunning google doc, do the outline and then you play as you wish on which ever account type , its setup so you could (at 8hrsa day) get quest cape in a month

[@SPACECOWBOY_Hej]

1:10 with the hard kandarian diary. yeah buddy...

[@mohbw3]

9:22 Redwoods gives easy 85k xp/h with the crystal falling axe and lumberjack outfit + I even bank the logs (with log basket) for around 100k per hour.

[@eprimchad2576]

Most noobs probably dont have a crystal felling axe, 95 wc, lumberjack outfit and log basket.

[@mohbw3]

@@eprimchad2576 Keep grinding

[@damionandy]

Just started a group ironman with a buddy. This video was awesome. I'm trying to not get burned out again. I'm coming back from a year long break after being in a sweaty clan that kinda ruined the game for me. This time around, I'm trying to play efficient, but not at the expense of fun. I guess I'm trying to intelligently enjoy the game, but not over stress being super efficient. I actually read quest dialogue last night instead of spacebar the whole way. Idk if you already have a video for it, but what advice to you have for new group irons?

[@patyfatycake_OSRS]

I never played group iron, but I did play a normal iron for a long time. The oziris guide is just top tier tbh. it's a good guideline to provide framework, then you can just go off and do other stuff you feel like doing, and then come back when you need an idea for what to do next.

[@MrMastermind790]

Just started playing again and I love RuneScape, but sometimes I get stuck in a loop of trying to be as efficient as possible like for example I’m still working on the optimal quest guide, but it feels like I shouldn’t do anything else just because getting the quest cape and diary at early as super beneficial, you know

[@eprimchad2576]

Maybe im just past the point now but i always hear about how useful the questcape is but ive had it for years and never once used it for anything, Maybe it helps early or midgame but at endgame its a dust collector

[@howlingwolf5213]

a better take for the Graceful set would be don't cap Morytania and instead just go where the xp is at. Getting higher Agility levels means your run energy will replenish faster. So it's better to just do the best rooftop course in terms of xp and you'll get the Graceful set naturally. Plus the mark rates aren't even that much slower so it might just be like maybe 1or 2 extra hours in the long run but you'll have better stats overall

[@45Marlborored]

The time value point you made is probably one of the most important. Everyone goes through this it’s almost natural for people to wanna stack gp but there’s a point where you have to just start buying stuff because it’s a waste of time to get the supplies

[@IL_Bgentyl]

Think the biggest tip I gave my friend was don’t worry about mid maxing everything. Bis gear doesn’t matter much vs practice and leveling. Get items that compliment every style like the fury, combat bracket, barrows gloves, ligh bear. Minimize swaps and upgrade your gear once you start doing things like raids, vorkath and so on. Skilling for you gear will take a painfully long time. Vs rocking a 30m set and raiding.

[@BChuckVT]

I disagree with not doing graceful early. Sure, the exp won't be as good as it would if you waited for 60, but it's not like the quests are gonna give you xp faster than you could get by just grinding it out. Plus, graceful makes doing early quests SO much more bearable.

[@dialga236]

who let this man cook, graceful should be at the top of everyones ASAP list

[@Clint15402351]

I don't think that Graceful in low level is a noob trap. You'll train agility anyway and the best way in low-mid levels to train it is rooftop course anyway. Yes, you'll change to seers village at lvl 60+ but NOT to Sepulchure. For Sepulture you need to complete quest Sins of the Father and I don't think that true noob won't have a full graceful at the moment when he will be able to complete this (in matter of skills and equipment)

[@GhostlyGhille]

True the sins boss fight was a challenge at 95 cb with 75 att 82 str and 70ish Def with piety Brews and restores. He was tougher than normal gauntlet hunleif imo.

[@cadenglick7783]

The fact you haven't done Ribbiting Tale is a crime. I'm doing quests for the first time, and that was one of the most fun ones I've done.

[@Dangernoodlle]

i dont agree with the first one as a iron rushing graceful is actually one of the best things u can do to start for one most agility requirements are done u also finish around 60 which is amazing to then start about 200k gp per hour at a really low level at desert pyramid and also helps since u will still need to do most quests and wont have energy pots i start my iron man with mills because of agility grind and u will easily hit 70 plus without seers while making huge profit

[@TRLarsen89]

Gz on 10k

[@onryno7357]

Watched a few of your videos but the “smoke a joint and space bar your way through the quests” line got me to sub

[@stuvius]

I remember when this game was about looking cool in Varrock with my new Rune Platebody

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

Rune and making gold was such an achievement back in the day. I strived to get a godsword when they were still special

[@mikebird19]

Great video!

[@zometthecomet]

Don’t do anything until you do all quest have 99 combats and oh yeah 😂 all hard achievements

[@Asian_Noodle]

Smoke a joint or some… as im smokin a joint lmfaooo this is one of the reasons why im subbed🤣

[@leosampaio668]

You got my sub at “turn that brain off, smoke a joint, and go do your quests”

[@skjnny9417]

Brimhaven at 40 is insane rn. I tracked 44k an hour with spamming the spike jump between tickets.

[@user-te5nh3li3f]

I got a bond for free by a max account, I did more than half the quests, had fun in minigames, did barrows some times and then farmed money while training other skills, now I am training my f2p skills a bit more with a brand new bond in the bank

[@calebgraham3334]

Baited and immediately addressed. Nicely done! Got my sub.

[@CharlesBarker-lg6se]

The Amethyst portion not being worth the time is very debatable now, considering the massive buffs it and the mining gloves got with the update this week. True the price has dropped slightly, but with getting 3 or more from each node now, it requires far less clicking. Each one is still roughly 3800gp, and making them into dart tips makes even more. You can essentially click one, and make a minimum of just over 11k without needing to click again.

[@Ohmygaddi]

Very helpful thank you

[@TwoStepsBackUK]

Ive just bought my first membership i been doing alot of stuff in this video so im glad came up man I almost burnt myself out 😂

[@bhackaa]

I grinded out full graceful on Cani and then my account was hacked because I was dumb, and they sold the graceful back for packs when they liquidated my account. So now Im grinding it again. Dont be me. Set up two factor authentication.

[@xDaemon_]

This would make a lot of sense if it didn’t take almost equally as much time if not more completing the diaries to get graceful/void faster. Other than that, I agree. Having graceful at 57 agility definitely helps me fly through quests, so I’ll take that. Void could be useful for jad, but I probably will wait to do the diary for that since I can just use blessed d’hide instead.

[@user-kc5qi2oy1j]

Void is essentially max strength, its early game gear bro all then way to max

[@barcelosm6395]

I'm glad I found your channel, down to earth and good content. Keep it up :)

[@gamingguru2k6]

Don't start questing until you've maxed agility, but only run the gnome agility course.

[@Djinni_P]

do you think soulreaper axe is gonna be actually useful after the rebalancing?(i know its off topic XD)

[@patyfatycake_OSRS]

honestly no clue, i've not really been paying attention to the rebalance. think it should be pretty good though

[@bubblebass2166]

as someone who grinded for a soulreaper on an iron, and has been paying attention to the blogs, yes it is going to be a very good item for melee slayer. It's BiS DPS for that. Also BiS at vardorvis, 2nd BiS at ToB and Duke and very good at other bosses where you use melee

[@chefzacp]

I subbed at "smoke a joint or something" You got me

[@hamzahussain7794]

I got graceful as soon as possible at Canifis. I used mobile whenever I had some free time. It has helped me out a ton. I use it constantly for questing and herb runs etc. Waiting for that long is pointless.

[@matthewburley9872]

I will say, healing with guthans is useful in 2 occasions, AFK slayer and god wars dungeon if you're tanking. AFK slayer is good because while it is slower, you don't have to bring supplies and you're AFK anyways, and it's great in godwars dungeon for tanking because you are gonna most likely use bones to peaches. Also healing with guthans is cheaper than blood spells

[@AaronThePony]

Yeah its a good low level healing set. Once you get higher even afk slayer is better with blood fury, but Guthans is def still valuable for new players.

[@moonlit_link625]

This guy knows best ways to play def smoke a joint most times while playing

[@moonlit_link625]

If it’s legal where you are that is 😉

[@PersonOfTheInternet280]

As someone who did 40ish - 80 it's not worth it. The new Hunter Rumour gives ironman bird nests. If you stick to farming guild contracts you get better rewards with the same engagement time.

[@Jasmine69420]

You look like if a member of the Hitler Youth won a 3 year vacation to the Bahamas. Amazing video, keep up the good work.

[@hybro8]

Lol, when I played OSRS I must have been the only lv 100+ without full graceful. I had 2 pieces, boots of lightness and spotted cape. Never once did I think that I needed to finish the set off.

[@onumiku8068]

quest helper also helps with the diaries which is amazing

[@duenorth4535]

Your guides and videos have helped me alot for being a new comer. Never been part of a clan s othat would be super cool to join!

[@dylanbrady5926]

I've been using my graceful for months...much longer than a weekend of grinding when 99 is probably my last agility. Agree to disagree tho bud

[@oo7minime]

Excellent guide Siraah

[@ProfessionalGasLighting]

I really like the last point. I have loved RuneScape since I was a kid in 2005, but I know something is wrong in my life if I’m playing too much RuneScape. It’s great, but there’s a lot of life out there too

[@ajap19]

so I am new player and this guy tells me to get Hard Combat Achievements b4 farming void set - like the achievement it self is going to take hundreds of hours. It also needs 87slayer where the void set would be a nice upgrade. Correct me if I am wrong please, cuz I am about to farm it (the void set) I have 5days /played - 46combat lvl - iron crafted gear - 771 total lvl

[@patyfatycake_OSRS]

I don't believe it would be worth it for you to grind out void at this level. But if you REALLY want it, go for it.

[@ajap19]

@@patyfatycake_OSRS I want some gear that doesn't req insane grinds - I have nothing atm pretty much and from what I researched this void set will allow me to skip some early early gaer progression

[@eprimchad2576]

Youre probably better off just getting 100 combat and meds done then grinding it, even with just the veteran boat and no bonus points its so much faster than using the other boats

[@ajap19]

@@eprimchad2576 So i have 30days played now and its so funny to me see yt guides/vids of ppl totaly overgearing all the boses and then they feel good about it after, what is going on with this community

[@nathancook1286]

I pushed to 75 agility right off so I could use a ton of short cuts lol

[@desertkil]

I was getting around 17 marks per hour in canifis I feel, and wiki lists it as 16-18.

[@superoriginalname5110]

The real truth about graceful is that you can afk it and don’t have to spend the full time running circles if you don’t want to. Marks of Grace can only spawn once every 3 minutes and after that every time you begin a lap they will have a chance to spawn. Canifis has the highest spawn chance on a new lap, being 2/3 chance for a mark to spawn. So you can literally just have a mark spawn, get it, wait 3 minutes at the end of the course and then start a new lap after the 3 minutes are up until another spawns. There is no need to make it more painful than that.

[@willowadams7208]

Being lvl 100 and not having most of the quests done is kinda sadness

[@joshuaschaefer6938]

Wish I saw this video before wasting my whole weekend grinding for Graceful...

[@Pabmyster]

It only took me like a season of The Office while fletching to get Graceful on my new acc 🤷

[@raymondprendergast1084]

Thanks for the video! I'll engage with your video to progress your grind :) You're right about graceful though. I did it at the start and it took forever before i started questing in earnest.

[@wolfy2879]

quests as i open up my quest list and see below ice mountain still uncompleted

[@valaraz]

The meta for graceful in canifis is to be so inefficient that you get marks way before level 60 agility.

[@monkeyhead15]

What I like to do is do my farm runs with kwuarm herbs in all but 1 patch and limp roots and the last patch as toadflax. I do a birdhouse run after then I crush them and I make Super Strength potions and Saradomin Brews. Not only do I get good Herblore experience, I also make more money than if I were to sell the herbs, limp roots, and birdhouses individually

[@xelgodis80085]

Parts are always more expensive than the whole for training method items. Basically, you're either wrong and mistaken or wrong and a liar.

[@monkeyhead15]

@@xelgodis80085 you’re most likely right and I am mistaken now that I think about it. I think the little bit of money loss from selling the items individually is worth it for the herblore experience. I don’t use most of the patches and I still make at least 270k each run

[@gorethrax8348]

I think I only disagree with one point. When it comes to training agility it is such a boon to have as soon as possible and by the time you hit 54-57 agility using the Canifis course you will have enough marks to get the full set. It is the best course to use basically until 60. The time gap between low level agility and the Hard Kandarin diary is massive, for any account but especially for irons so it is better to have the graceful and not wait, it will be helpful and likely the only thing you wear running around Gielinor.

[@jake8748]

The point he's making is the lost training time. Canifis is bad exp per hour. So if you are aiming for say 70 agility for quest cape, you'll spend 15+ hours at canifis to hit 56. And another 15 hours from 60-70 likely at seers where you will also get the marks for graceful. Whereas there is methods below 60 to get comparable exp (wilderness is 3× or more exp to canifis from 47) to seers to skip alot of canifis and cut the total training time down by upto 10 hours by level 70. Seers is 2-4 marks per hour slower than canifis with just easy diary done. That means over 10 hours you are 1 item less roughly but 3x the experience doing it there. Another way of looking at it is graceful is worth 2.3mil gp roughly via amylase crystals. You'll spend 15 hours to earn 225k exp and 2.3mil gp. That is 15k exp per hour and 150k gp per hour. Seers for 15 hours will get you 650k exp and 2.1mil gp. Is 400k agility experience worse than 200k gold value?

[@rickogren6302]

​@@jake8748you really don't understand. The time you spend walking everywhere before getting both 60 agility and getting hard diary done. It's insane how you still think that, even though the meta is to camp Canifis for marks for graceful, you and Paty seem to think otherwise.

[@jake8748]

@rickogren6302 depends on your goals. If graceful is all you're after, yes, canifis was fastest. If you wanted graceful and 70 agility than staying at canifis for graceful rather than using better courses, it would cost you hours by time you hit both goals and that is without hard diary done. With hard diary would just make it even better. Full graceful is not necessarily worth it as you would only be maybe 1 piece less progressively moving up courses and things like boots of lightness do a good enough job to offset in the meantime. It's not like anyone is stating not to get any graceful or touch canifis, but if you move on as you can, it can save time levelling or get you more levels in the same time frame which also affects your run energy. This idea that full graceful must be completed asap and completely changes the game compared to having a few pieces and building the set a little slower is insane.

[@jake8748]

One thing I made mistakes with was avoiding skilling items early on (1mil for dragon harpoon, dragon pick type things). Avoided them because of the cost. But the earlier you get them the better return value from faster gathering and higher levels. Much more useful purchase than spending a few mil on other minor upgrades Another is not recognising good hybrid gears. Blessed D Hide is amazingly useful both ranged and melee. Amulet of fury really useful. Brimstone ring was really useful even though most regard it as rubbish except magic. Being that its defence and all attacks makes it a decent value early to mid item, than buying and imbuing 3 others. Graceful I pushed for but holy gods rooftops are boring. I play on mobile so hard to watch something to alleviate the boredom and 15+ hours it takes for graceful sucks. I found just doing a few laps here and there and only really grinded for chest and legs originally at canifis. Boots of lightness filled my boots slot and you can get spottier cape or some gloves for those slots too as a budger version to begin. Slowly working myself to full graceful and using alot of lamps on agility because I wanted 70 for SotE and quest cape. Just hit 70 agility now after Sins of the father quest and I used 3x exp hits on agility. 15marks short of graceful now as I predominantly did seers from 60 onwards. Nice set but 15 hours is alot of time to recoup from the weight reduction and run energy replenishment. Definitely don't advise canifis unless able to do it afk or really low engagement.

[@alincaraman56]

Herb runs are really a big thing. I really reccomend doing them. Even at lvl 118 combat I still do my herb runs. I have all patches except the one from Harmony Island whose requirement is insane (dunno why Jagex is not lowering it to hard Morytania diary) and I make 300-400K profit in a herb run.

[@Grog]

Ive been at Canafis for a bit, might have to move on 😅

[@MadMonkeysRS]

the marks of grace into crystals for herb training

[@BasedChadDaddy]

I use void for Barrows also, great video ❤

[@aaddemos1824]

I AFK magic logs while working from home because I like it though, still 50 mill gp without actually doing much.

[@MegaChickenfish]

The graceful you wind up wanting to train agility anyway at a low level since then you can run around for your questing without it costing tons of stamina potions so I disagree there, it was definitely worth doing first. And you DEFINITELY can't do the hard combat tasks as a "noob", I only just finished them recently and it took mastering dozens of really difficult bosses like the DT2 ones to finally get the points. Easy or medium maybe, since those also reward void point improvements.

[@delhoyoboy]

You only need graceful if you want to get herbiboar high score. Literally tele everywhere.

[@jpc_337]

The Bill Hader of OSRS