THESE ARE SO GOOD FOR GAMING! Meze 109 Pro Review

[@cnnlive10]

I own the 109 Pro and after watching your video, I got excited and put up my Grado RS-1. The 109 Pro is a tad hot but when the recordings are right, its one of the best headphones I have ever heard.

[@MJordanisGod23]

Do you use these for gaming? What are your thoughts if so? I'm seriously considering getting them with the Schiit Hel 2 amp/dac. Does the sound get loud outside of them that others can hear?

[@PhoggHawk]

I tried these at CanJam over the weekend and they are, unquestionably, My Sound! I was just in love with them! I was fortunate enough to get a fantastic deal for them and I ordered them yesterday. End Game headphones! I hope you have a chance to try them some day.

[@tonyslander1]

You have no idea how much money I spent after watching your videos 🤣

[@Professional_Dumbass_]

Ikr. He's so convincing 🤣

[@Fenecek007]

Haha, same here!

[@Travissmith-nc9ms]

Hahahaha true story.. i had 1 head set now i have 5... why?? No idea my audezes dont leave my head.

[@julianpineapple828]

Now I’m currently saving up for either this headset or the Arctis Nova Pros. (Because of this guy!)

[@jamesstevens968]

@@julianpineapple828 hi I wouldn't get these for gaming because there not for gaming there for music get the arctic nova pro wired with the wicked gel cushions or the Sony h9 wireless gaming headphones I have both you will thank me latter

[@N1mdae]

I bought this coming from Sundaras and I absolutely love the Mezes. They made me fell in love with music again. I also use them for gaming and are amazing.

[@mtnmankeith9069]

Tygr 300r is on sale for $150.00. Best gaming headphone for the money in my opinion. 109 pro for $800.00… diminishing returns is real thing in my experience with more expensive headphones especially when using them for gaming. You can get a tygr300 and a nice dac/amp for way cheaper. Excellent review on the 109 though.

[@garethg8226]

I use the Tygr 300R too. That's all you need for gaming. Good choice and for that price you'd be mad not to pick them up.

[@Dutchy-]

I'm using the 99 classics for years now. By far the most comfortable headphones I've ever owned! And the perfect sound profile for me. But I do like the open back experience from my Astro a50's on console. I think the new Meze's would be the perfect headphones for me, and I'm definitely going to test these out at the hifi store here in the city. Thanks for your review, you made me very curious.

[@TheTechne]

Let me know what u think man.

[@velvetjones8634]

If you don’t mind me asking, did you change the pads in your 99’s? I recently picked up a few pairs of headphones and the 99 Classics were are one of them and I’ve been very underwhelmed. For reference, I also bought the E-MU Teak, the VZR Model One and the HE-R7DX JM OCD Extreme Stealth Edition Bass Edition (the Teaks are by far the best of the group).

[@Dutchy-]

@@velvetjones8634 yes I changed the pads. Headphones are so personal, its a shame you are underwhelmed by them.

[@Dutchy-]

@@TheTechneI will!

[@velvetjones8634]

@@Dutchy- Thanks for the information; I’ll see if I can find better pads. Honestly, it may be that I was expecting too much. Have a great one!

[@manuelaj3z116]

the chapters names are just brilliant

[@CrackaSlapYa]

MEZE 109 are my favorite dynamics for pure listening joy. And are my goto for gaming. So accurate and comfy.

[@toldto3841]

Great video man. Best audio reviewer in the game. 🙂

[@villegas24]

lmao chill bro, nowhere near the best audio reviewer

[@toldto3841]

@@villegas24 I meant he is my favorite headset reviewer, and one that I can reliably take information from. I don't know why you are telling me to chill for giving a compliment but alright.

[@TheTechne]

@@villegas24 hey

[@markshenefelt7611]

Joshua Valour is my fav. Techne has good energy.

[@justinbeard4733]

I've had my eyes on the 109s since I saw a vid about them from one of the hifi headphone channels. They just look so freaking great.

[@jamesstevens968]

Yes but there not for gaming there tuned for music if you want the best sounding headphones get the Sony h9 wireless headphones or the Arctic nova pro wired with the wicked gel cushions they open up the sound stage I have both headphones and there awesome

[@justinbeard4733]

@@jamesstevens968 yeah, I know. I listen to music mainly but also game.

[@tv.evostar]

@@jamesstevens968 good heaphones indeed, but closed ones. I find the spatialization / location of ennemies better in fps w/ opened headphones (provided your surrounding is quiet of course).

[@Kihma.]

Nice explanation of what we can expect from these ty! Do I really need a dac for them (PC, good asus audio mobo) since they seem easy to power? Otherwise, I'm looking at ifi zen dac v2, especially for that bass button which is apparently cool

[@tv.evostar]

You're correct, you won't need an amp as the impedance is quite low for the 109 pro (= 40 Ω). But to fully exploit them you'd benefit from a good amp, that's for sure ^^.

[@JamesS777]

LoL same crazy cash spending over here 😅 Techne looks like he's having stinkin' fun trying headphones out. I also want to have stinkin' fun testing a bunch of my headphones 😂 🎧

[@neakzombie8392]

audio is the next step i hope game devs really focus on and make better, we have the great graphics now, but there is still so much room for audio improvements

[@MJordanisGod23]

Just so I'm clear, if using these on the ps5, I just plug them into the controller with the 3mm cord? I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to headsets and console so I'm trying to understand how to use them.

[@shaiyahtimmons3122]

Techne what are the best headphones you have that are your go to for movies?

[@schizowallflower]

I have a few headsets that I bounce between depending on how I want my game to sound, or what I want/need to hear in the game, but for games like Ghost of Tsushima where the environment, enemies and direction is incredibly important, I have a pair of open-back audiophile headphones from Philips that I will use. I even have a 3.5mm cable with a mic on it from Koss that I use with it so if I'm online I can communicate. They're also nice for games like theHunter: Call of the Wild for the environment and rustling in the brush when something's coming up at your 5 o'clock, but not totally necessary. I do understand the love for headphones while gaming, and a lot of streamers use the Beyerdynamic ones when they have a desktop mic.

[@BeHempy]

Fidelio X2HR?

[@oldassgamer9138]

@@BeHempy he’s definitely talking about them

[@schizowallflower]

@@BeHempy I believe they are the SHP9500... they were on sale on Amazon last year for like $44 or so, so I picked them up. Always heard good things and so far I haven't been disappointed.

[@abasiczombie.]

Can you please do a review on a LucidSound headsets? Tons of great models!

[@3wes]

in your opinien wich better for gaming the meze 109 pro or HD660S2

[@rsmart84]

I've just tried the H6 pro closed and open and have chosen the open. They sound better to me for gaming, the closed seem muffled and have too much base compared.

[@TheTechne]

yeah, I agree. lately I have been preferring a pinch more bass, fullness

[@dante19890]

ye they are tuned differently too so its not just the open vs close difference u hear.

[@xRealUzz]

Its not about hearing footsteps that you wont otherwise techne! Its about hearing the same footsteps but being able to position them better exactly due to what you said: the sound "breath" and go out so you can identify where it goes out, but when its close the sound bounce over and over and make it more difficult to position it .

[@TheTechne]

I see what your saying, but again if I had a closed pair that step would be in your face, rather than distant/open.

[@ChaseHub]

I use VC's for gaming and have tried HD800S's, Arya Stealths, LCD-X's, LCD-XC's, etc etc etc and these are by far and away my preference. Especially because you can block-out outside noise and focus on the footsteps coming from the game sounds. Hope that helps spark an idea. GL -DG

[@Karim-ik5ij]

@@ChaseHub What are VC's?

[@ChaseHub]

@@Karim-ik5ij Verite Closedbacks by ZMF - I've since found that I like IEMs more though

[@alfredolozano4365]

How do these compare with the VZR Model One? I am considering buying the 109,, Model, One, Hifiman Edition XS, and Audeze LCD - X. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I game and plan to listen to HIRES audio. TYVM

[@fredrikthorin5222]

I mostly play singleplayer games like Uncharted, Ghost of Tsushima and God of War Ragnarök. Now I'm going for a pair of Epos H6 pro. Should I choose open or closed back?

[@MJordanisGod23]

This headset is incredible and the first open back I've ever owned.

[@dante19890]

better than the 2022 gaming headsets or

[@DSTARC__]

what steelseries arctis lineup would you recommend at $200 price range? both wireless and wired wise? Also arctis 9 wireless or arctis pro wired?

[@MJordanisGod23]

Is it pointless to get these for PS5 if you do not get the amp or dac? Straight out of the box and plugged into the controller are these still better than let's say the SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro which i currently use.

[@Neerano]

It's 40 ohm, should work. Yes they will be better but is it worth 800$ to you?

[@MJordanisGod23]

@@Neerano well, now I am looking into the Schitt Hel 2 amp/dac combo to go with these.

[@dante19890]

they cost more than the ps5 XD

[@FernandoGarcia-qu7zt]

Yo man you look slimmer and that beard looks good man! 💪🏼 Keep up the good vids man I’ve spent too much money watching your reviews 😂

[@TheTechne]

I shaved it, and I regret it :(

[@axult9345]

hey techne what should i choice between tecware phantom and spectre keyboard?

[@eu3145]

Dude, this piece is near 600$ in my country! This are headphones for bourgeois, it would be ridiculous not to be a winner!

[@dante19890]

600 is cheap in the audiophile world

[@kennykidd6013]

Open backs just make a bubble around your head where it sounds like things are coming from. The Penrose are a great example of how open back doesn’t mean better every time. Though I prefer the airy sound of open backs, the Penrose are my go to for boomy guns go pow games lol

[@TheTechne]

Man them Penrose can really bring a game to life

[@kennykidd6013]

@@TheTechne Agreed. But now, of course, thanks to you, I NEED to give these a try. I’ve been saving up to try out the HD820S one day so I’m thinking I can give these a shot and always send them back if they’re somehow not for me. Can never have too many headphones though!

[@sethcal88]

Techne, been maining the VZR model ones for several months. You think these are worth the upgrade over these?

[@AndrewLamas19]

Doubt it, it should have what you want in a headphone. If you’re looking for straight up imaging(directional audio), I’d start look at the dt 900 pro x or the hd660s.

[@AndrewLamas19]

These are great headphones though. So don’t get the wrong idea, these just might not have the best directional audio.

[@TheTechne]

hmmmm, I would say this is an upgrade, but thats not saying anything bad about the VZR. these have more of a true, well rounded sound, with fun punch, the var are really focused on the low end (mids & bass)

[@sethcal88]

@@TheTechne thanks so much for the reply!

[@2SSlow17]

Dammit techne! You made me pull the trigger!

[@MJordanisGod23]

Did you get them yet? If so, what do you think?

[@2SSlow17]

@@MJordanisGod23 absolute love them

[@MJordanisGod23]

So if you had to choose between the Audeze LCD or these, which one you choosing?

[@TheTechne]

Ohhhhh easy now

[@dante19890]

you cant game more than 20 min with an Audeze before your neck hurts.

[@Agentfirestarter]

I just bought the Razer blackshark v2 pro wireless, That’s already expensive.

[@AnDr3w066]

Did you buy it at full price? Its 120 bucks right now

[@Agentfirestarter]

@@AnDr3w066 i think i got it on sale.

[@skreeog]

Hey, maybe give a try to some good high end IEM. Dusk 2, some Moondrops, or Sennheiser IE300/600. I believe you'd be surprised.

[@TheTechne]

Man iems are so fun, but not cozy

[@MarkFisch]

Are there any open back wireless headsets for gaming with a good mic like the epos wired ones

[@AnDr3w066]

The epos come in a open back version. If you don’t mind wired

[@jemoer208]

hey techne do you know realy good noise canceling headphones for music/gaming for 150€

[@mica3061]

Techne do a review on the Linsoul Thieaudio Ghost and compare them to these

[@justism]

What would u recommend hs80 or arctic 7 nova?

[@TheTechne]

dang man, two great one. Go with whatever is cheapest

[@samuelviden7412]

Techne. You should try the Hifiman Arya Stealth version for gaming. They are amazing for both music and gaming. I bought a Dolby Atmos license on my PC/Xbox and it’s so fantastically immersive. Incredible dynamics and detail retrieval, great imaging and soundstage, yet still very musical sounding.

[@dante19890]

Arya is way too harsh

[@samuelviden7412]

@@dante19890 They are not harsh, they just don't have typical treble roll-off that's targeted by the Harman Curve. The treble is there when needed, but never harsh IMO. I've used them extensively for gaming, music and movies with Dolby Atmos, and the treble never feels sharp or harsh, but it isn't brittle either. It's just a more honest treble reproduction than most headphones have, and this is coming from someone who has tinnitus and is sensitive to treble frequencies.

[@dante19890]

@@samuelviden7412 No its objectively too much treble for a human with perfect hearing. The only reason why you think its not too much is couse you most likely have reduced hearing ability in that region.

[@dante19890]

I have the Arya stealth and it is lacking in dynamics compared to a dynamic headphone. Thats just the nature of planars in general

[@brianisaac1804]

Yeah, I’m done buying expensive headphones. There really isn’t a huge difference when using cheaper gaming headsets. To me at least. Wasted so much money on high end audio, now I use the wireless Nova Pros, couldn’t be happier.

[@AnDr3w066]

Its funny how you said you are done with expensive headphones and you landed on the most expensive ones available for sale lol. No hate just found it funny

[@brianisaac1804]

@@AnDr3w066 I should've said, that I owned the Hd800s, DT1990 Pro's, and a pair of Focal Clears before I got the Nova's. Just didn't hear much of a difference between the high-end and the Nova's.

[@AnDr3w066]

@@brianisaac1804 yeah there is a big point of diminishing returns. Especially once you get to that level of high end. I was tempted by the 800s but i think i am good with the epos h6 and 560s

[@brianisaac1804]

@@AnDr3w066 Not to mention how much I spent on Amps and Dacs. Plus the fact that this was all for gaming. Just didn't make much sense anymore.

[@yadiracaro4038]

Can you use the Corsair hs80 on Xbox 1s

[@ABOOM124]

This man is slowly becoming an audiophile

[@TheTechne]

Never. I will always be a consumer/user

[@AnDr3w066]

That is one good looking set of headphones.

[@joepesci3205]

What is you all time favorite gaming headset?

[@TheTechne]

AUDEZE Penrose

[@ryanmckenna569]

Need to get yourself some second hand Sony MDR XB1000's and test them Techne 😉 they will be second hand because they are discontinued but I have never seen a headset like that in my life it's incredible , I have the MDR XB 700's and they are unbelievable!

[@AldoHostins]

Review some pc soundbars 🙏🏻

[@TheTechne]

I actually main one, lol I should cover it

[@danp9646]

How’s the sound comparison to Nova pro wireless or the new A30s?

[@simonrockstream]

bro.

[@oldassgamer9138]

No offense but both of those gaming headsets are overpriced and mediocre at best . If you want real audio start with a pair of headphones that are branded toward young kids. Start with the Tygr 300r or Pc38X

[@knupification]

What amplifier do I need to connect these to my Xbox Series X?

[@MJordanisGod23]

I'm confused on how to use them on console. Do I just plug them into the controller with the 3mm cord and start gaming? Does an amplifier act as like the game DAC does for the arctis wireless nova pro? I'm ignorant to this kind of tech. If using an amp, does the amp plus into the system with a USB?

[@JonofBerglund]

Any amp would be nice. But the problem with series x is that it only outputs sound through usb for companies that pays license fees to Microsoft. For example steelseries or astros own gear for Xbox specifically. And there is no toslink/optical out on the series x. In my case I have a sound blasterX g6, have to use my tv’s optical out for sound and power it through the usb on my Xbox.

[@MJordanisGod23]

@@JonofBerglund I primarily game on my PS5, so can I get an an amp that plugs into the USB of the system and they will work? What is the purpose of the amp?

[@JonofBerglund]

There is a difference between a dac and an amp. Ex the blasterX g6 is a dac/amp combo. Easy explanation is that the amp gives the headphone more power, the dac makes the signal/sound better. It’s also headphone dependant. I have a pair of fostex t50rp, great for gaming but they require a lot of power to drive them. Without a amp the sound is quiet and weak, a proper amp turns them in to amazing headphones. So it also depends on your headphone, less expensive headphone’s usually don’t have the same potential, but also doesn’t need an amp to sound decent. Watch badseedtech’s 101 gaming dac video, think he explains it okay. As for ps5, I don’t know what is going to work on it. When I use my g6 on my Xbox the mic doesn’t work as I plug it in through my tv’s optical out. But if it’s licensed for the ps5 it should be able to run through the usb. Maybe not the best explanation. But I love it. I use my g6 to listen to music and game on my pc and for gaming on my Xbox. It’s really a game changer sound wise going from directly plugging my headphone in to my controller/pc to using an external dac/amp.

[@MJordanisGod23]

@@JonofBerglund I'm just trying to figure how the console will recognize the headset. How would they plug into the ps5? 3mm through the controller? I looked at the ifi zen amp, but there isn't a USB cable that comes with it.

[@JGAbstract]

waiting for the corsair to drop in price, they are $150 right now. If the mic came off i'd buy it full price. Can't stand that the mic is permanently attached.

[@blugviel]

I feel like a skipping record. I love your videos I do want to see a king of headphones video sennheiser 800s is often considered to be the best or one of, audeze gx, meze 900 pro etc...

[@TheTechne]

I still need to check them bad boys out

[@Redstar19791979]

I would hope an 800 dollar headset would sound good.

[@crewsayder0]

every headset you cover is the best headset ever...so many words said yet nothing of comprehension or meaning. know'm say'n?

[@lordhades9455]

I've stretched out a gorgeous piece in my day

[@Wankidy]

You sound like a sales rep

[@doublea9701]

cool

[@areitz1962]

"Alotta ya's"

[@jaimemelendez368]

I love the PASSION!

[@MagashiSaizen]

Being poor sucks. lols

[@FreeMeal4You]

dont be then

[@average7youtuber]

Meze always makes beautiful headphones, this is one of the fun open backs, but when it comes to competitive edge no headphone is gonna make a difference...

[@16ton7]

800 for that headphone. WOW

[@AnDr3w066]

That is budget for enthusiast headphones

[@justinbeard4733]

@@AnDr3w066 especially when you look at like the Empyrean, LCD-4, CRBN, and others.

[@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556]

@@AnDr3w066 The focus of this video was for gaming so that is a ridiculous price. Aint talking about em audiophiles or whatever the fuck they are.

[@AnDr3w066]

@@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556 its not though. The market for audio envelops both gaming and music listening. This is just an option for the people that have the budget that will go for this premium product. The value proposition is entirely subjective. Is it out of budget for majority of people and gamers? Yes, but the same goes for pretty much any luxury product.

[@azureknight729]

I’m sure most people will do payments on them, thats always an option you know.

[@Mustafa-bs1ug]

First(3)

[@theredmeadow]

Cords? Yuck. Pass.

[@hansenschimpansen3166]

wood ok. rest looks ugly