These Are The 10 Best Off-Road Bargains For Around $5,000!

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( www.TFLcar.com ) We all love off-roading here at TFL, but even we aren't prepared for the sheer price some of these new, dirt-worthy SUVs and trucks cost. Instead of breaking the bank on a brand-new off-roader, Roman and Tommy discuss the best off-road bargains you can buy for around $5,000. Oh yes, we show you can get into off-roading without destroying your wallet.
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[@ThatOneDudeNick]

I'm not looking for an "interesting" vehicle when I'm out in the middle of nowhere alone. Reliability and "boring" are what I want. The interesting part comes from the fun of being out there offroading and camping... without breaking down.

[@snowmobile74]

This. If it won't get you home it ain't shit.

[@elyeli6250]

Get a durango or dakota

[@scotttwood]

Exactly!

[@Aliyah_666]

@@elyeli6250 How about no...there are better options for cheaper with better reliability that AREN'T rusted out dumpster fires. Daimler Chrysler wasn't making good quality vehicles in that era. Now if they offered a 2 door durango with a cummins engine now we're talking.

[@MrNanah38]

As long as you stay away from range rovers you will be fine.

[@MrBillsfishin]

Ok so Roman is spoiled which is fine because at his age he might have earned it at this point but he has to remember that not all the population has a huge budget. Thanks Tommy for being the voice of reason.

[@davidzuravel8723]

What about the forgotten Jeep Commander SUV!

[@Pkari]

Bill Elrod nice chemistry though 😆 cool headed son, grumpy pops. Wasn’t expecting to laugh but at some point Roman’s ranting and Tommy’s ability to cool tempers made me laugh

[@30bananaguy]

I agree with Tommy, people buying budget off readers usually means they can’t or don’t want to add a huge budget. Reliability matters most for your pocket and also for peace of mind when you are off roading outside.

[@ck7512]

And the old man is clueless about used cars. He is a germaphobe with a 50k budget. No way you can get a 4runner in my area with 4 wheels for under 6-7k.

[@davidtrevino5211]

​@@ck7512 Even if they're 2 Wheel drive ?

[@kd7kmp]

Sorry, Roman, but at this price point most people aren't looking for "cool" as a feature for a budget 4x4. Tommy for the win!!

[@tronaboron2064]

😂🍻

[@lopezch1234]

He is smoking something really bad

[@BabyCharlotteschannel]

@@lopezch1234 yeah, gotta remember, he's a kid compared to most of us who have to save and scrimp and sell something to be able to buy anything let alone spending $5grand on a whim.. *To be clear, I consider having a capable 4 wheel drive vehicle to be a necessity, though I can't wait to sell my '01 Xterra and get myself the perfect (to me) ZJ Grand Cherokee! I have a brand new set of 4 extended length shocks and a 3" lift sitting in my garage just waiting for the right Grand Cherokee to come along!

[@asphaltactionallterraingaming]

All 10 10: 1st and 2nd gen Nissan Frontier/Xterra 9: 4 runner 8: 02-10 VW Toureg 7: Land Rover Discovery 1, 2 & LR3 6: Jeep Wrangler YJ 5: 1st gen Mitsubishi Montero 4: 1st Gen Mercedes-Benz ML series 3: 2005 Chevy Blazer ZR2 2: 2nd gen Ford Bronco 1: 1st and 2nd gen Jeep Grand Cherokee aka ZJ and WJ (they preferred 2nd gen [WJ]) Bonus Vehicle: XJ Cherokee (but these are usually over the $5K limit of this list)

[@wjkrug]

Thanks because this is unbearable

[@propertypreparedness6846]

Then don't watch it....

[@wjkrug]

@@propertypreparedness6846 I didn’t 😂

[@takenpictures]

I'll take an old 4Runner over the VW any day of the week! I'm with Tommy though, a decent one is hard to find for less than 5k.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Usually a $5k 4Runner is pretty done.

[@shannonmorgan3295]

Sami over both

[@danc2212]

I put 100k on my 3rd gen 4runner over the last 6 years... and somehow it's gone up in value!!

[@arieldinero]

I agree that the 4runner is a better vehicle by far. One little thing that they neglected to mention when they where comparing the Touareg to the 4runner was that the 4runner was available with a 4 cylinder Diesel until 2006. Unfortunately they weren’t available in the US since the 90’s.

[@jtd7954]

A "budget" vehicle should not be expensive to maintain. That defeats the purpose of saving money.

[@joelsullentrup3497]

The whole point of the video was for budget off-road “trucks” not “trucks” you can daily and take off-road. They said “your 2nd or 3rd vehicle”

[@khakiswag]

I agree with Tommy, give me a old 4Runner over an old Touareg any day. The VW is a money pit. One break down and it will costs more to repair it than what you paid for it. Even if the Toyota breaks it’s cheap to fix.

[@khakiswag]

@Eat Jat just to replace the battery in a Touareg you have to unbolt the driver's seat to get to it. In order to do that you have to slide the seat back and forward to access the bolts...a power seat with a dead battery. This foolishness is why you throw the whole thing away when it starts breaking down.

[@BabyCharlotteschannel]

@Eat Jat do it yourself and then just get it aligned.. save 2/3rds if the cost!!

[@mt-nv4jd]

@Frugal Family Living That is cheap. $3000/16 years=Under $200 a year for the upgrades.

[@RobJKlein]

I can’t see you. Your shirt matches the wall.

[@snupermoto723]

Podcast Camo

[@stefanfalldorf6573]

😂😂😂

[@paulcunningham5327]

I was digging the wall Camo too!! ;-)

[@blownsebring]

Haahaahaaaa

[@Marco-fi6gv]

Lmao, camouflage! Call him predator 😛

[@spcneary]

I have a 3rd gen 4runner that I would trust from here in central Florida to your studios and back and it has over 200k miles. Also, Tommy is completely right, a 3rd gen 4runner goes for 5-20k depending on condition, a sub 5k 4runner is going to be in need of repairs.

[@jeffhall768]

True. I got an 03 v8 4funner for $4500 because the ac wasnt working. Turns out, it was low on refrigerant. $20 at autozone and it was working fine. Gotta love finding deals like that. I could easily make $5000 off of it but it's too good of a vehicle and I cant replace it for that much so, it gets $4000 in suspension upgrades instead. Lol Tldr sorry, i replaced scotch for coffee this morning Haha

[@kpccha1992]

4Runner any day. My family we all have 4Runner from the 1st edition to the current 2019 4Runner TRD Pro. But I will love to get my hand on that V8 4Runner.

[@davidtrevino5211]

​@@kpccha1992 What year 4 runner has a V8 ?

[@Freddy-td8fl]

The Young dude is making the most sense.. Reliability above everything else.

[@bobpoulin8044]

They go back and forth. At the end Roman suggests that a XJ is best option. Hard to argue.

[@aaronandhayleyskinner3249]

I agree with Tommy, I don't see that a Toureg is more " interesting" than a 4Runner. Your cooled glovebox won't be that exciting when your stuck on the side of the road as a 4Runner drives by.

[@edgart49]

What we have are two point of views from two guys in totally different stages in life. The younger version is excited to go out and see the world. The older version is someone who’s seen the world and appreciates comfort and reliability. As someone in there early 30s I can appreciate both points. Good job guys.

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Agreed, and I enjoyed the give and take.

[@CharmelionZard]

It’s fun to watch them go back and fourth because they go to a mutual spot of agreement afterwards lol.

[@timhardman4764]

Good points and hypothetically, one guy may have little to no savings after making the purchase and the other guy has a lifetime of savings and assets making reliability, cost to fix, cost of off-road recoveries, time to do any repairs in a heated/cooled garage or just writing a check to have all the problems taken care of an easy choice with no anxiety or worries.

[@StormedX2]

1 year of owning our budget off roader: 96 4Runner that was 100% stock with 200k miles. we only had to change out the Starter which we did ourselves, tire was shot so we upgraded the rims and added BFG Mud terrains. We have done the entire steering wrack and ball joints, added about a 3 inch lift and Snorkel. Wife and I are learning to weld and will install our bumpers once we can make them. ALl in all I feel like it was a damn good buy for our weekend trail rig that a year ago cost us under 5k.

[@zschlecht08]

Tommy, thanks for being smart. Once again, I believe you're beginning to keep the channel alive

[@joeport6823]

I think "social distancing" is getting to Roman!

[@kingstonsean]

Totally.

[@0badboy]

Roman, respectfully you can't always be right. It's time you listen to Tommy.

[@tmwei396]

Boring? That's totally subjective. I'm with Tommy all the way. My "boring" reliable rig will get me where I want to go. Is the topic about getting the best off-road BARGAIN or a comfy road trip family hauler? Everyone admitted it is costly to maintain and repair and what's the market like for off-road parts for the Tourag so where's the bargain there? I think Roman missed the mark and point and Tommy is right on point.

[@jamesbeaman6337]

I think Roman tends to look at things a little too much from a KZbin channel owner standpoint. Some of the best value off roaders aren't necessarily exciting enough to make money on KZbin.

[@tronaboron2064]

I'm an old man and Tommy makes a lot more sense! I'm looking at Roman like 🥴 what is he talking about!🥴...

[@davep2945]

I don't think Roman needs to be part of any discussion involving budget vehicles because he just doesn't seem to get it. He's like the clueless chick on one of those house hunting shows who thinks she should get a beachfront mansion, fully renovated to her specifications for the same price as an inner city shotgun shack. And though I don't know him he also seems sort of like the guy who enjoys a few hours in the field but then needs to make sure there's a four star hotel nearby to sleep at every night. He's just not the real deal budget minded, outdoorsy type. Can't say that Nathan or Andre are either but they make a better show of it. But hey, if I were considering my "budget" off-roader to be a brand new, $120,000 crew cab custom Luxo Raptor with the built in neck massage, selectable left or right cheek seat warmer, the Swarovski crystal vale stem caps and two temp wine chiller to keep my whites and reds at the appropriate temperature then Roman's assessment would be key in my buying decision!

[@BabyCharlotteschannel]

LoL, too funny.. can't imagine him breaking down and Actually having to do actual work on his own vehicle to get it running and home.. lol

[@greglee1345]

You're saying a Toureg is a better budget off roader than 4runner? You are high!

[@djw5415]

I can’t imagine the labor on that vehicle if something breaks. I’m sure very expensive and unreliable just like other German cars

[@williamparker7823]

They are good offroad but you better be good at doing your own labor. If you can't find one with a rear locker and air, don't bother. Those are the most redeeming factors for wheeling them.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

For under $5k, remember that's part of the criteria. Good luck finding a decent 4Runner under $5K

[@mononeo]

I wouldn't buy a Touareg either because it is nightmare vehicle, but out of the box the Touareg is more capable than a 4Runner by far.

[@AudaciousMarv]

mononeo More capable than a 4runner?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@derekmontgomery4394]

Only 1 answer, 4runner. You can find them all day for 5-6k. My 03 has just under 300k miles and is the most solid well built car I've ever owned

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

Isuzu Troopers / Vehicross. If you get a 3.5L 6 cylinder, get one with more than 60k on the odo because it means that it's likely survived the oil starvation period. Use synthetic on it. My troopers went anywhere, were super reliable and would hang with all my buddies' rovers.

[@tylerhumpfer2493]

yep just carry some cheap synthetic with you for the early 3.5Ls and go anywhere.

[@donaldwilson2620]

I agree, Isuzu's are often overlooked and I think it's mostly due to Isuzu not being imported here anymore. An honorable mention should also go to the Isuzu Rodeo/Honda Passport twins and its 2 door cousin the Amigo due to it's size(not to big, not too small), 3.2 DOHC V6, and Dana 44 axle.

[@docjnsn73a]

I still have a 1996 Acura slx. Awesome and reliable vehicle. Bought it for under 5k 10 years and 100k miles ago

[@nymincho]

I haven't seen many Troopers out. The two that I did see where at my my uncle's and broken.

[@OriginalFallofMind]

Once they started putting car parts in the front they were done. Cool concept, but seen so many on the side of the road. If I had all the time and money I wouldn't mind having a first or second gen with a small diesel swap.

[@josephsantana3094]

Tommy is correct about the 4runners. Even ragged out with super high miles people are trying to ask ridiculous prices for them. Doesn't matter where you are in country, its extremely extremely hard to find a decent one for 5k or less.

[@EcBuddy123]

There's a dealer detailed 280k miles 04 4runner for like 2500... Knowing there's 4runners with 500k running around and being off-road, should be fine. You said the suspension is clapped out? Aren't you going to lift it anyway? A lift is under 500 bucks, Bilstein 5100s and rear springs. And Tommy is right, it will continue to go. Seats being destroyed? Then just buy seat covers or seats from another one. The VW being compared to the 4runner is a bad idea due to the reliability alone. Roman was wrong in this one, Tommy you got it right.

[@13milespergallon63]

I'd take a 4runner over a Toureg every day! Especially considering reliability. P.S. its ugly

[@duncdunc76]

Jesus! Cool over consistently reliable is only for wealthy people! All due respect but Roman needs to listen to Tommy on this one as hes spot on. Looking cool broke down on the side of the trail doesn't do much to get ya down the trail and home, unless of course you've got a guy like Roman with a big heart driving by and stopping to tell ya how cool your rig is while offering you a tow with his boring but reliable off roader lol.

[@escabron8049]

Roman reminds me of my Dad. He's never wrong..😵😵😵😵😵

[@dj42864]

What, no Isuzu Trooper?!

[@Axel-uw5py]

Shhhhhh, they're already starting to go up in price 😂

[@z1berzerker]

O.M.G. I LOVE MY 99 TROOPER 3.5 T.O.D.

[@rocco2]

@@z1berzerker are they reliable?

[@z1berzerker]

@@rocco2 I tend to think so. Mine has 230k miles doesn't skip a beat.

[@robertshue8318]

I have a 1991 2nd gen 4runner with 210k miles on it that we got for $2000. 0 rust (except for the tiniest bit on the rear bumper) seats are actually not even worn and noone has ever lived in it😂 in case you're curious. I live in North Carolina.

[@austinmitchell1586]

Nissan Xterra is great I've owned two of them! Both exceeded 200k and still sold for 6 grand! Amazing platform.

[@mr2gud2u]

I agree with everything except the Mitsubishi Montero gen 1. While it is cool, parts for these are getting extremely rare. I think better choice is a gen 2 or 3. The gen 2 can be had with a locking rear diff, will fit 33s stock, and parts are much easier to find. The gen 3s are shunned a bit by the community. It has IS in the front and back. It does have a real center locking diff, a low range transfer case, and an amazing approach angle. The last 3 years the gen 3s got a very good traction control system. If you search KZbin you can find Aussies conquering some pretty amazing obstacles. IMHO it's one of the best full independent suspension off-roaders, and you can find them for $5k all day.

[@qieedishmael9897]

I own a gen3 montero 2005. Love it can go any and everywere and mine is stock. Thing is a beast with simple mods its even better

[@humbertorubi2735]

Qieed Ishmael Agree! My 3rd gen Limited has Torsen diff in the back and it is just unstoppable. Mine have 154k miles and still going strong and all the electronic devices are perfectly working.

[@Bigjobrob]

I would really encourage you guys to check out an 03-06 Gen 3 Montero. I would put a stock one up against a Touareg or 4Runner any day. They slot up against a Land Cruiser everywhere else in the world. They used one as a support vehicle in the series ‘Long Way Around’ and it made it through the Road of Bones in Russia. They can be found with sub 150k miles for less than $5K.

[@humbertorubi2735]

RAWags44 For sure! I think the 3rd gen is one of the most underrated 4x4 by far. Ok found mine really competitive and have tested it against a Current gen Prado and mine was consistently superior off road. By the way, I consider a little better the 01-02 years because the limited trim have a Torsen rear differential which is really wonderful.

[@qieedishmael9897]

@@humbertorubi2735 i swapped a hybrid LSD from a 02 limited into my 05. With traction control this thing is a monster

[@danc2212]

Best part of the old 4runner is using it to rescue your buddy's "interesting" Touareg/ XTerra from trailside failures.

[@monahantp3767]

My pick? Bronco. In 1991 I bought my first F-150, and while I really disliked the gauge cluster, the thing was a tank and I loved it!

[@CanineArachnid]

1:05 - Nissan Xterra and Frontier 6:48 - Toyota 4Runner 11:23 - VW Touareg 1st gen 16:37 - Land Rover Discovery 21:48 - Wrangler 26:43 - Mitsubishi Montero/Pajero 28:18 - Mercedes ML 320 1st gen 34:03 - Chevy S10 Blazer 36:21 - Ford Bronco 80s or 90s 38:00 Jeep Grand Cherokee/Cherokee

[@RichardVac]

Great talk, I go for my 2001 ML320, it has being the most reliable truck I have owned, in the past I had Monteros two of them, not so reliable after 100k miles, Toyota 4runner 1991 my transmission broke after 140k miles, 1999 4runner engine after 180k, ML320 can go strong after 200k. Two weeks ago came back from a trip drove my ML320 for about 4k miles, no issues, even went to an off road park (Patriot MTN Off road park) did it with no problems.

[@jimsomerville3924]

Tommy is right about the Toyotas retaining their value. Being built so well and lasting so long is way too subjective and not necessarily true though.

[@news2383]

My dad 4runner was still great at 350k at least mechanically. The salt roads of the north gave it car cancer made us has to put it down. So basically buy a used one from Florida and it will never fail.

[@marco_loewert]

WK with Quadradrive II is a brilliant offroader. Don't know why you think its not good. You only need some spacers for a 2" lift and thats all

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Agreed, I would be curious as to Tommy's reasons that the WK is not good.

[@timhardman4764]

Yes, that was on my short list. Ended up with a super clean '15 Xterra Pro4X but would have been very happy to find a WK Quadradrive ll.

[@arinmirzayan3949]

3gen 4runners spatially with rear locker would be the choice of my off roader all day long.

[@mononeo]

The third gen 4Runners didn't have rear lockers in the US, they had center lockers only on Limited trims.

[@dhdz1202]

mononeo that is wrong, many years of the 3rd gen came with factory rear locker. Including my 99 Limited.

[@alonsor4604]

Same here my father's and mine both have rear locking rear diffs

[@PeterHartman1]

@@mononeo weird. My 98 ltd has a rear locker.

[@chavakano54]

I put a Tacoma locker on my 97 4Runner, works great.

[@danbasham9207]

I have an 04 grand Cherokee with the 4.7 V8 with over 350k. It's had it's issues over the years. The power steering pump being the main one. But never an issue with the drive train and none with the engine.

[@live4mac]

I think your impression of the WK is a bit off, it was the first generation grand cherokee offered with the 5.7 Hemi and with quadra drive 2 which was a big upgrade over the WJs 4.7 and QD1. They are easy to find with that option combo, came stock with skid plates and tow hooks, and early model years can be had for around $5k. I'm a little biased as I have owned 2 of them. My current '09 I picked up for $7k with the Hemi, QDII, full off road package and a pretty comfortable leather interior. It's fast (5.9s to 60), quiet, comfortable, realiable, tows great, and with some decent tires does great off road. I'm sure you discount it because of the IFS, but the QDII is better than just about any factory traction management system short of a rubicon or ZR2.

[@marco_loewert]

Agree. IFS is not a downside when you have QDII. QD II diffs are essentially lockers which are closed electronically. It doesnt care if a front wheel is in the air or not. For me a very good offroader when lifted 2" and still a good onroader.

[@mmodtomic7119]

Only downfalls: 16mpg and HVAC reliability and poor aftermarket support.

[@DarklightRebel]

How did you miss the Land Cruiser/LX470? Yeah they have around 250k miles at that point but that's legitimately half its service life and it's far more capable than most of these vehicles.

[@mmodtomic7119]

Didn't they briefly mention the LC? Too expensive. Gotta remember where they are, these would command a premium in Denver!

[@DarklightRebel]

@@mmodtomic7119 yeah they did, and you're right, but they are missing that people everywhere in the country watch them and you can find good examples under 5k in other states. Yes they are not common, but they exist.

[@mmodtomic7119]

Suzuki Grand Vitara Mid 2000s. Low range and Locking Center Diff. Serious off road cred and Great highway mileage!

[@stig120212]

I'm listening so 7!!! Here's what I like about theses podcast and your post! It's like a conversation you would have with your friends at a outing

[@kaydent202]

First gen bronco 2! Love my 87 Eddie Bauer with manual locking hubs, locker and manual 4wd shifter. And 4speed with od man trans.

[@chuckmuellerleile8729]

Wow....who pissed in Roman's Wheaties today?!

[@tronaboron2064]

😂😂😂🍻

[@wvmtns6400]

I completely agree. Was in a very argumentative mood the entire video.

[@brandondykes0000]

I agree with Tommy and most comments. The 4runner is the ONE. As a mechanic, I wouldn't buy a toureg with tfl's money.

[@luiseduardonavas6513]

It was incredible that you included the Mitsubishi Montero in your list, it was the winner of the Paris-Dakar rally for many consecutive years. I was lucky to have the 1997 turbo diesel short version (out of the country), quite luxurious for its class and a very reliable car. A very fast start, a pleasure to drive that car.

[@mabernexpeditions9409]

I'd also include the jeep liberty kj renegade. I bought a 2003 with 77 xxx miles for 3600 $cad ( 2580$ usd). Comes with skid plates, an lsd, full leather interior, sunroof, power seats, roof spot lights and a roof basket. Here in canada, i enjoy the fact i can drive on road with 2wd in summer, fulltime 4x4 in winter and parttime 4x4 offroad.

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Agreed, the KJ is another one that is under appreciated, probably due to its looks.

[@Channel-yq6qy]

KJs are pretty awesome. I just picked up a mint 2006 and am turning it into my adventure rig right now.

[@Varrylickers]

@@jamesbeaman6337 lol my trans went out at 140,000, wouldn’t start due to ignition actuator failure, now my abs is broken and applies brake to any one wheel while driving causing it to veer

[@Coldlegend214]

Love the back and forth between you guys

[@webgem76]

Tahoe/Yukon

[@DrNworbsKitsCats]

Great video guys, I'm interested in getting a Mitsubishi Montero/Pajero and am wondering what years you think are the best or what year you thought that the 4x4 quality of Mitsubishi came crashing down, as you said, thanks!

[@Agent.K.]

I did not look at them in detail but I see all gens off-road and they did surprise me. 07+ 3.8 are the most powerful.

[@jacobabraham7160]

Ok I pick Roman I mean the later ones are ok but the Xj it is just an legendary vehicle there is nothing like it

[@spartanchirho]

Tommy, regarding the 4 runner and toureg, I heard you. And you are correct.

[@scotttwood]

Tommy, I find myself in agreement with you more and more. Love the idea of a Blazer overland build. Four years ago I sold my all original Chevy S10 with 384k miles on the 4.3L, and trans, that I bought new in 2001. I know they can be very reliable. Guess I'll start looking for one soon!

[@lognload]

I've got a 12' Xterra Pro 4X, got it used a few years ago and have put almost 30k on it. Love it, tons of available parts and nothing to break the bank.

[@mmodtomic7119]

We look for and test drove Pro 4s but we couldn't get anywhere close to 5 grand for one. We did find a number of "Off Road" versions, which I feel is the go to option, for around that price.

[@rromero1091]

im new to the off road world. my dad had a 1993 ford f150 flareside 4x4 5.0 5 speed manual. he had it since I was in middle school. im 29 years old now. he never took it off road or anything. this last summer he gave it to me. he had it just sitting there for years. I bough 33x12.50r15 tires and just steel wheels. I been fixing stuff on it. got a new aluminum radiator from Frostbite, changed all the hoses except like the little ones, bought Beltein shocks. took it off road 3 times so far and 2 of those times I had problems with it. problems with the coolant. I blew a hose this last time. was running good and when I engaged the 4x4 going up I blew it. I dont trust the truck at all right now. I just drive it around the city. but I noticed no one talks about them on the off road world. its always 4runners, jeeps, and frontiers and Tacoma. why?? cause it's a ford? lol

[@davidthomas6949]

If "palpable tension" ran a podcast you could also watch on video. Loved this. Miss my dad.

[@TubaSteve369]

Lol this is some of the best stuff ever! 8 minutes 45 seconds I'm cracking up keep it going guys!

[@TheFolkTube]

Thank you Tommy for being a voice of reason! BTW, the maintenance on the VW makes it a money pit over time. Luxury features don’t mean a crap when someone is on a budget and need something they can depend on. Cool factor means squat when your rig is broken down in the middle of nowhere.

[@timhardman4764]

right on....and....some of the repairs (if paying the dealer to do them) on that awesome VW could be close to that $4,500 you bought it for.

[@95jeepers]

I use to own a 95 grand Cherokee Orvis edition with the 5.2l. It was stock and it would go through anything and pull anything I put it up against. I currently got a 2002 WJ Grand Cherokee with the 4.0l. While they are nice and comfortable, you can do a budget spacer kit to lift. I'm not a fan. I do have a 2 inch spacer kit on mine running 32 inch tires. But it still runs with minor cutting and hammering. I'm looking to go to a 4.5 inch coil spring lift. These lifts, whether kit or pierced together, aren't necessarily cheap. Kits aren't completely reliable and some are expensive. But I'm not going to get rid of my WJ. I want to get a gladiator, but thre WJ will stay. Thanks for ranking them at number 1. I have a friend that has a first gen JK that's done up and I was keeping up with him in the dunes pretty good.

[@Hazardbone]

4wd action did a segment like this last week some cheap 4wdrives you can get in Australia for 5 grand or cheaper. Toyota 4runner,Hilux,Prado,Landcruiser Nissan Patrol,Navara,Pathfinder,Terrano Ford Courier,Explorer,Raider Holden Jackaroo,Rodeo,Frontera Great wall Steed,X240 Jeep Cherokee,Wrangler Range Rover Discovery Ssangyoung Musso,Actyon Mazda Bravo Hyandai Terracan Daihatsu Rocky,Feroza Suzuki Jimny,Vitara Mitsubishi Pajero,Triton,Challenger Thats all I can think of for now and yes we are spoilt for choice lol.

[@Flying_Dollar_Motorsports]

The locking rear diff was only offered on the Off Road/Pro-4x model Xterras. And they were never offered with rock rails/sliders. They had some aluminum side steps offered but that's it. The 2006/2007 models we're prone to the radiator problem that Tommy is talking about. For those interested, search the Strawberry Milkshake of Death or SMOD. There was also a supercharged option in some of the later year 1st generation Xterras

[@leemowry]

You are correct. To elaborate some more the first gen Xterras/frontiers had no traction control, open diffs, 3.3v6 was reliable but anemic in power. The 2nd gen was so much better. 4 wheel limited slip, locking rear on Pro-4x, super stiff frames. The only con is the suspension has limited articulation. All are great options though

[@Flying_Dollar_Motorsports]

@@leemowry The rear leafs we're a little under sprung too. Fine for daily driving but if you tow a trailer or flex the rear alot, you'll want to upgrade the leafs. I have ALCANs in mine with a stiffer spring rate

[@ericarntson2035]

I went with Roman's #1 pick: I picked up an '00 XJ with 157k on it for $2600 back in January. Needed new tires, seals and maintenance items but the interior is in great shape as is the body (minus some serious paint scratches on the hood). I'm still in it for well under $5k.

[@20tea]

Yeah, got the 87 Montero 2 door and an 86 Samurai! Love em! Built them to suit my needs and well taken care of.

[@SquawkCode]

Alabama Trashcan! LOL Good list I've had all of those Jeeps with QuadraTrac and they're great.

[@RedHawkish]

your prices are way off. add a few thousand to every vehicle you mentioned down south.

[@ColonelWamp]

RedHawk down south where every 2005ish Silverado with 260k are minimum of 7-8k lmao.

[@matt.squarebody5427]

@@ColonelWamp in NY a truck like that will run ya 1-3k lmao

[@mycorrhizae1832]

@@matt.squarebody5427 that's because it's a rusted beat down vehicle! Never buy a new york vehicle! They are always super rusted.

[@matt.squarebody5427]

@@mycorrhizae1832 well of course!!

[@claytonduguay9617]

You really need to time stamp these podcasts. I'm not interested in EVERY vehicle on this list and jumping around on my own was time consuming and made me quit rather quickly. But, it did make me seriously consider the Nissan Xterra for my next off roader.

[@Agent.K.]

I agree with time stamps. As for xterra, go second gen if you can.

[@mmodtomic7119]

Huh? Have you owned so many vehicles that you can only learn something new about one of those reviewed here? The whole point of this entire podcast/video is to enlighten the audience about a vehicle they might not have considered before. Watch the entire video, it's the least we can do for those who are providing Free entertainment for us. It helps them get paid through better advertising rates and such.

[@SneakySolidSnake]

i like the dynamic of the father son duo. one seeing value where the other doesn't, helping them to cover more ground with viewers. i like that it has helpful features and innovative technology says one, i like that it starts up every time and is economical to repair says the other.

[@jamesbeaman6337]

What about the first gen Kia Sportage (1999-2002)? I understand these have low range and and LSD and are quite capable offroad.

[@ThatsWhatSheSaid75]

Second one I've tuned into that Roman's mood was....questionable.

[@nathansims8005]

3rd gen 4Runner owner here. I have 233k on the original drivetrain and it doesn’t go through any fluids. Being in the Midwest the frame is starting to rust through unfortunately. I love this truck to death and plan on swapping the frame out eventually but am disappointed in the rust issues they have. Should Toyota replace it under warranty or recall? No. It’s 20 years old but even 4th and 5th gens have the same issues with rust. I have seen countless early 5th gen 4runners with more than just scaling rust. I don’t think the frame rust issues are fixed and that makes me hesitant to buy another one.

[@danielladd3391]

I love my Disco 2, I daily it but have a reliable back up. It’s a fun project that I fell in love with. I think with older vehicles you should consider learning to do your own maintenance and repairs.

[@gpaje]

What? $20,000 plus of service records on your VW and he is putting on your Bargain off-roader list? And that's for a "sorted" one?

[@testedhardware1801]

The early Jeep Liberties (KJ 2002-2007) are fairly good off road. Most just need lifted, 31" tires, maybe swap to 4.10s and drive.

[@lcmijango]

Awesome podcast guys, keep it up!, fantastic knowledge on vehicles, Id love if you could make a volvo show covering c30, and all the quirky cars they made

[@dreadnoughtprime6301]

The first and second generation Ford Ford Escapes werent amazing off roaders, but they can be reasonably purchased and modified.

[@jeffhall768]

Do they have a low range tansfer case?

[@dreadnoughtprime6301]

@@jeffhall768 I'm not sure. Mine is front wheel drive. But it crawls easily enough.

[@B...H]

@@jeffhall768 They do not. They are available with AWD, and are great for mild off-roading.

[@lukebt]

My Wj is great. 3 in lift and 32 in tires. Rides great! I put some drawers in the back and it’s great for camping with my friends.

[@LukeEdward]

Good luck replacing head gaskets in the Nissan V6 engine! That’s a freaking job! Early 4.2L Jeeps are easy. Nutter Bypass with an ignition refresh, and Weber carb conversion and you’re good to go. And if you can’t do that yourself, this video is not for you. ZJ’s are easy, too. Put the front springs from a V8 model on the rear, then spacer lift the front 2” - 2.5” so it doesn’t stress the front driveshaft, swap TJ wheels and 31” tires and you have a reliable mild off-roader.

[@gerardarciga7354]

Luke Edward scared of a little challenge with a Nissan head gasket? Amateur!

[@LukeEdward]

@@gerardarciga7354 Nope. I just don't want to have to replace $40 gaskets WHILE WORRYING ABOUT CAM TIMING! So stupid having to lock cam timing to replace freaking head gaskets. It's like a old Ford engine where to replace the intake, you have to pull the pushrods, etc.

[@LukeEdward]

@@gerardarciga7354 And funny. The spirit of the video is pointed towards the "AMATEUR" who are people who don't get income from doing that type of work. I certainly don't get paid, which, would then make me a "PROFESSIONAL." And if someone is a mechanical professional, they certainly can do a whole lot more work $5000 than Tommy and Roman are suggesting. Maybe you wanted to use the word "novice" in your sentence?

[@matthewj2492]

Cool stuff, a lot of us just need a once a week vehicle for outdoor stuff, thanks for the work on this!

[@mmodtomic7119]

Also look at the mid to late 2000s Suzuki Grand Vitara with a V6 and Low Range Locking Center Differential.

[@84Crisco]

Personally own the rare 5.9 ZJ and a plain jane XJ. Love them both for how they are.

[@darrickcato9499]

I feel like they totally dissed the ZJ. yeah they gave it number one, but hardly talked about it.

[@daytonstarnes329]

Tommy: Reasoned, on topic, measured, researched, mellow, polite. Roman: Emotional, off topic, rambling, over bearing, illogical, condescending. (Scrolled through the comments to make sure I wasn’t just completely off base...glad others saw/heard all of the same. Podcasts are best as conversations...not overbearing over talk. Thanks Tommy, as always, for your approach!)

[@jasonbodi503]

I'll vouch for the S10 Blazer. I rocked a 4 door 99 Blazer for 7 years and went through some STUPID trails with it. Put 2.5" lift and 31" tires on it and it did surprisingly well. Just didn't like the IFS and sold it to get a Cherokee

[@stevenkaesbauer2013]

You guys are not in the same page for the topic of this video title is off road bargain, tommy seems To be on the right path but Romans all over the place, and it’s OFF-ROAD bargain so if someone gets it expect these to actually go off road not 90%on road 10% off

[@logan9337]

Ive had 7 out of these 10 vehicles, and the 3rd gen 1997-2002 4runners are literally mini landcruisers. (Which is great because LCs are HUGE) and I've had 4 different 4runners, EVERY ONE over 200k miles, my current one has 350k miles on original engine and is spotless, 4x4 with leather etc, and they just keep going and going. (Just changed gaskets, timing belt, alternator and brakes proactively when I bought it for all less than $500). The diff locker is a huge plus!! The Limited leather models are really nice inside with woodgrain etc, I think if Roman himself owned a limited 3rd gen with a diff locker he would change his tune on thinking they're 80% used up after 250k miles. Replacement parts are dirt cheap, even engines. They're not fast, but really the best dual purpose daily/off roader to own for $5000ish. Here in Southeast they're available for that price.

[@andrewsam3377]

This guy sounds like my dad haha definitely kept watching because Tommy represents my perspective. Thanks TFL! Keep Tommy around and I’ll keep watching!

[@juviasgrey9897]

Just found this video and I love the dad’s attitude. Very Jeremy Clarkson. Lol

[@aikidragonpiper71]

I used to have a 1987 4x4 Chevy S10 Blazer with a 4.3 liter engine. It was a lot of fun.

[@MrDeviceVideos]

Hello, I live in Europe and I'm looking for an offroader. You guys are always talking about the big reliable petrol engines... but most of the offroaders second hand are diesels over here... could you tell me more about the diesel engines? So I'm interested in: -Toyota 4runner 2nd gen 2.4td (some 3.0i v6 available), -jeep Cherokee xj 2.5td, -jeep grand Cherokee wj 2.7crd and 3.1td, (I heard the 3.1 had reliability issues and the 2.7 problems with the gearbox) -Mercedes ml w163 270 cdi Thank you for helping me out to make the right and most reliable decision...

[@danc1197]

4 runners hold value so good luck finding a low price on one with low mileage.

[@ashtonmax]

Sleeping on the 3rd gen GC. I got a 3.0 l diesel quadra drive II with low range, very comfortable interior, heated seats, remote start all the fancy shit for 6k canadian. 160000kms can tow 7k too and wheel very well

[@notasolution]

3rd gen Explorer with advanced trac is so underrated. Definitely should be on here above many of the other vehicles on here. Get the 4.6 v8 and they’ll go 300k and tow 7500lbs too

[@z1berzerker]

You guys are on point with all your choices... I have had 4 87-91 F150's with 4.9 4x4s Awesome Trucks... had a 87 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 4x4... They all would go anywhere in general. I currently have a gem you missed... Isuzu Trooper 3.5 4x4 with T.O.D. it has been a pleasent suprise... Just an idea to check it out. Damage 😄😄

[@abqcrutch]

Roman's comment about the YJ, that you can lift the wrangler with blocks. You can use blocks in the rear with a suspension lift. You should never use blocks on the front.

[@noahlar]

I get around quite well in the mountains with my KJ. I hate the IFS but, its paid off and gets me from point A to point C pretty reliably.

[@rlessmeier]

The WK had a hemi... They are cheap.... Mine was 250 k miles on it, I only paid 2k for it. My WJ has been broken down.

[@AgentXRifle]

And QDII is incredible for a stock offroader! Love my ‘05 WK

[@clstjam4321]

I've had a 2000 Jeep WJ with the 4.7 v8 for 13 years and it's never let me down or left me stranded. All in I had just under $3000 in repairs since I bought it (including brakes & tires) before I set it up for overlanding two years and 22k miles ago. I've never owned a vehicle for this long and will drive it for as long as God allows. It's the best vehicle I've ever owned.

[@joewright2485]

Disco 2 cdl was still in them but not hooked up from 99-02 was not in the 03 at all and brought back and hooked up for the last year of the disco which was 04. P38 and Disco where identical except body and interior, same motor, Trans, frame, ect... Also the buick/rover motor blows head gaskets for a few reasons and sleeves usually slipped on 03-04 models when motor went to the 4.6, the bore never increased from the 3.9-4.6 the stroke increased usually head gaskets went on most rovers because of the cast aluminum block, and cast aluminum heads, also pin holes would develop behind sleeves in the block this would cause exhaust gasses to get in the coolant and super heat it.

[@JesusDiaz-iw4rk]

Any off road with 250 K mile won’t be reliable off road. The stress of going off road with that kind of mile I doubt be reliable off road.

[@MeliorIlle]

According to what?

[@JesusDiaz-iw4rk]

I guess that is my opinion. However, you can do as you please.

[@MeliorIlle]

@@JesusDiaz-iw4rk Based on?

[@jamesperry1944]

Why is Tommy more reasonable than a grown ass man? 😂 Who recommends a VW over a Toyota?

[@SeanDuPhotographer]

Some great arguments there. I'd love to get an XJ even though realistically I probably don't need anything older than my WK.