These Changes are INSANE... (They DID IT AGAIN) (2.6.0 Patch Notes)

These Changes are INSANE... (They DID IT AGAIN) (2.6.0 Patch Notes)
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[@angelogutierrez6390]

"players can now purchase single items within a bundle"

[@rapidshot3033]

I like that: I don’t need everything in the bundles half the time

[@ericc2939]

Actually a huge change. Games like cod and apex force you to buy bundles that are overpriced. With no option to buy a single item.

[@little_error295]

The amount of money I’ve wasted 😐

[@reallyeffingcooltechnodude]

Only from that new bundle so far but I hope it changes in the future.

[@Frost11211]

This , this right here.

[@vadimcondrea72]

Summary of FCAR changes: - Removed FCAR - Added AKM2

[@reklezzz9038]

I hate it ​@@ashycoollol The fcar felt so strong, even tho having to reload got me killed Now it feels like the AKM with less bullets.... I WAS hammering fuckers. Now I'm slightly peppering fellas. I think I'll be going akm + Turret instead of fcar now... hate the visual recoil tho. It's much less recoil but the visual shake is stupid. And in on ps5 so I dont get a fancy crosshair overlay lol

[@theweedkage1689]

Too many players are using cheats with the fcar which made it too strong so they super nerfed it ​@@reklezzz9038

[@-zod-4882]

Just remove the light class at this point 😂 add a super heavy weight class, fuck it.

[@noobnova7772]

that's actually not a bad idea, devs may add some super obese dudes, moving 0.1 mph with 50,000 hp, one shotting everyone else

[@vsapFlacko]

The Light class was designed for noobs, extremely unfair with the OP Cloaking Device and Stun Gun.

[@ezylryb12]

@@vsapFlacko In casual play and low ranks, the light is seen as oppressive since nobody plays as a team, but in the higher ranks, light was just unplayable. And now more than ever, light is just not viable. This is coming from a high rank light main so I may be slightly biased. After these changes, as a light main, I'm going back to valorant lol.

[@terrenceholmes813]

Skill issues 😂​@@vsapFlacko

[@terrenceholmes813]

​@@vsapFlackoyou can literally hear lights wen cloaked ur just bad

[@noobnova7772]

the devs hate light class

[@cloudboy08]

noskill light class*

[@smiteriuszryceriusz1258]

Med nerfs: turret , mines , defibrillator , Fcar

[@user-fl4kp3gz7n]

​@@smiteriuszryceriusz1258 Don't even bother, they'll never nerf turrets, devs are bias

[@rapidshot3033]

@@cloudboy08no skill 150 health Only real viable gun is mp5 Get wiped easy by 3 meds with healing beams that stack 3 Turrets continuously Having to evade around mesh shields Yeah no skill on light

[@neckbread1829]

Which is based, since Light has the most annoying and infuriating builds to play against.

[@raybarrows4418]

So many nerfs. The game barely feels the same as when it came out. Why don’t they buff underused stuff instead. This game is going to lose me pretty soon

[@arcanum3882]

It’s like playing a counterfeit version of the real thing because everything feels cheapened and weak

[@hayeskeniley9990]

I totally agree that the game feels very different than when it first came out. That’s not necessarily a bad thing but let’s not drift too far from the source material too quickly. Also I agree that there should be widespread buffs overall, I’m also not sure I agree with the FCAR nerf either

[@Quint3r-rw8yg]

i sadly agree

[@asuraphreak]

While I agree with your thoughts, that last bit makes you come off as petty and entitled.

[@Nomu_YT]

The patch doesnt tell you this but they literally killed the dagger with the melee tracking change, its so bad to the point where you can now consider it unplayable.

[@rgwa555]

Im waiting to play later and see how It affected the sledgehammer. It was terrible before, literally turning your camera 180 degrees to a jumping target that u cant even hit. Also they only autoaim the middle sight, and they dont take into account the weapons hitbox, so with hammer swing from left to right It would make you actually miss if u moved camera for the faster hit registration.

[@GorgGanter-lx7yq]

nah you dont know what you are talking about

[@rgwa555]

@@GorgGanter-lx7yq Care to explain why?

[@Nomu_YT]

@@GorgGanter-lx7yq ill go into detail to help you but you cannot dashstab anymore and normal backstabs are even more buggy.

[@Ho55Delux]

Sad

[@dgochez]

The barricade change is a nerf for most game modes, but it's actually a buff for power shift, snipers could still shoot you on the platform unless you put the barricade on one of the side walls of the platform.

[@unknown-ldn6337]

Nah u can literally block any door in any game mode, shits OP I don't need to rely on headglitches so win win

[@maddog5284]

I have been maining akm in expectation for the FCAR nerf and here it is, akm is better now, higher dps and damage per mag.

[@mr.nihilistic]

not in the slightest the fcar is buffed if you originally aimed for head

[@maddog5284]

@@mr.nihilistic the way im looking at it rn is that if you can manage the iron sights on the akm it is now just the best rifle for short to mid range, its got the highest dps(and yes ik its barely higher now but still), highest damage per mag(which is enough too 1 mag a mesh shield) and that massive mag that lets you take on multible targets and apply pressure.

[@sir_glyst768]

So... they are balanced in pair?

[@mr.nihilistic]

@@maddog5284 the famas does more damage and rewards headshots over akm, the akm feels like a weapon on training wheels and does not feel like the powerhouse it was in beta, the akm might have a bigger magazine but still does less headshot damage and is iron sights, the fcar still is the highest dps respectfully and out ranges the akm

[@YourGrandMomy]

@@mr.nihilisticare you ignorant or what? ATM AKM is better in every way.

[@jasonnan8798]

Really sad that they just keep nerfing instead of buffing. I miss feeling power in every gadget.

[@vadimcondrea72]

There's so many awful weapons and many so similar to each other (like V9F, M11 and silenced pistol being low-quality XP-54) but instead decided to make the FCAR more similar to the AKM.

[@jaroogee]

yup. Closed Beta was insane. You ran faster, everyone was strong. It was chaotic fun. Now its just whos sweating and running the meta

[@jordankelly4684]

They just buffed fcar, lowered damage to 22 per bullet and gave you 5 extra in the mag. A mag dump does more damage than last patch

[@FlacoMyTaco]

@@jordankelly4684 the TTK is worse, despite having a bigger mag it takes longer to kill a target, its a NERF.

[@SabanLeon]

@@jordankelly4684 no way you just wrote that and read it, posted it and though "oh yeah, thats what happend". I can tell you are either new to the game or just a hardstuck gold

[@sanji1259]

i hate the FCAR change. it was high "risk" but great reward...now the weapons are close to each other

[@MrNamenamenamename]

The scar is a harder to use akm atp

[@vivangiemcm]

NO 93R BUFFS????

[@onepunchdoggo]

Seriously everyone and their moms been asking for a buff for weeks now

[@matthewlange176]

I see a minor difference in mp 11 vs 93r looking at the ttk. I believe it’s an upgrade from the semi auto pistol.

[@colekonop5034]

For real I never see anybody use that shit but I’ll see people running dagger that’s how you know it’s ass

[@Qomber9596]

Hot take: if stun gun works for you, you were already going to get the kill.

[@TheAlphaWolf77]

I realized this ages ago, I’m glad someone else gets this. I dropped the stun gun from my Light loadout in S1 because i felt it got me killed more than actually helping (aside from stopping a cashout/defib). It made more sense just to try and kill them.

[@frankliang9298]

coundnt agree more

[@carlosgoden4424]

It depends but yea for sure. It was only really good if u stunned from far away and they couldn’t easily hipfire u

[@vasstv3478]

Disagree, it's an insane amount of utility with zero counter ( prior to nerf)

[@Qomber9596]

@vasstv3478 yea, if you use it when it's necessary. But most of the time you'll stun and get a kill you were already guranteed

[@rgwa555]

Everybody is so fed up with the meta. I feel the patch was underwelming and wont have too much impact ok meta. There will still be 15 unusable weapons and gadgets in the game. Lights glitch nade buff is actually huge, people are not realizing btw, the biggest of the patch with Fcar.

[@olivergram4033]

light glitch nades are irrelevant, because APM exists, and u are trolling if u pick light in the first place

[@chrispember172]

@@olivergram4033 which makes no sense that it was nerfed so hard

[@m.haikal8598]

Man light mains finna have a real hard time killing heavies

[@nathanwood3814]

THEY ARE NOT MEANT TO HEAD UP WITH HEAVIES JEEEBUS

[@carlosgoden4424]

@@nathanwood3814don’t argue with light mains, they don’t have a brain

[@c00lhandluke81]

When I saw those changes for the cloak and invis I got genuinely pissed off. The 33 percent taken off for the cloak is more than enough. I hate using vanishing bomb and that was the only thing making it still somewhat usable. Now u nerf that aswell??? Get out of here

[@FruFre]

Fixed the mine issues such an important point! Funniest but so annoying. I bet so many didn't realise the mines exploding nearby them was not a cloaked light or something, but a spectator.

[@david_kingori]

😂😂 I've done this so many times

[@Breezylovesyou]

That vanishing bomb nerf was a step to far and they know it

[@TheAtomPrince]

tell me you've never been jumped by an invis team without telling me you've never been jumped by an invis team

[@Breezylovesyou]

@@TheAtomPrince I run into 3 mediums daisy chaining each other way more or a cash out surrounded by mines and 3 turrets way more often. Also I'm a light I usually hear the que and hunt down the invisible people and if I run into a non stealth team I'd die the same stealth really ain't that bad annoying maybe but I get called out in stealth all the time it can be that hard.

[@whoisAPT38]

The stun gun nerf isn't bad BUT light was already so bad, this means light gets the only good thing taken away

[@SabanLeon]

@@unbidabyss2903 just get good buddy, lol. U can kill a light in like 6 bullets if you actually have arms and fingers to press left click

[@Amir-gu4qp]

Light is so done lmaoo

[@illwillpress100]

stun gun can still do its thing immediately denying cashouts, which still makes it a must take

[@alicatdotcom]

That's it's most powerful use! Goo does the same thing tho..

[@Cqat1]

That's the ONLY use for it nkw though. They should've kept the disabling utility part. Denying defib, heals and mesh was what made it so important for high elo. Stopping cashouts only happens 3 times in a game at most.

[@SpoofRecaps]

@@Cqat1 But the whole point of ranked play is to deny cashouts and get cashouts, that's the whole point. So it's still powerful without being overkill like it used to be.

[@Shikori_Tsuru]

I wouldn't say this specific use case makes stun gun a must take, I would even say that's quite a hot take. Whenever you a pull it off it has an awesome value, but this whole point of why you would take the gadget after the nerf can be countered by how enemies play while stealing the cashout. Look, if there are 2 or 3 competent enemies there will either be a shield covering the character who's stealing, or an enemy will bodyblock their stealing teammate. Either way you are unlikely to get the stun off. If the enemy is alone you just beam them in the head instead of stunning and you don't even need to kill them if you can't, you could stall the steal... just like a stun gun would. And what do you sacrifice for this chance of getting this specific usage out of stun gun? One gadget slot. Overall, I would say that stun gun became much more of a niche pick and is not that viable as long as you don't look at it in a vacuum. Now I simply can't justify taking stun gun over either the breach charge, glitch nade or gateway.

[@SabanLeon]

Average non light players opinion

[@c00lhandluke81]

They need to buff the cloaking device. Especially now that they just nerfed the stun gun. Instead of taking 33 percent away each use it should take 25 or 20

[@kotasake]

Fuck no

[@sSteppingStones]

Yeah it does feel bad to use rn. Make it even easier to see idc just make it better able to turn on and off more than two times. People who can't see it just have skill issue

[@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629]

Fcar vs AKM is mostly now down to reload or bigger mag

[@Dustygamin]

Thanks for the video my guy. Hope I have time to drop into your stream soon and watch. Can't wait for you to start your stream on ranked from bronze to diamond in one go !!

[@Daniel_Vital]

With less and less damage every patch, the healind medium meta is getting way to hard to deal with. They literally out heal your damage. They need to start buffing things, everything is weak

[@Titi-zm7gr]

I'm honestly happy with the changes, I think they should focus on light's mobility instead of cloak. It feels so cheap being invisible, stunning someone and then melt them in a sec with the MP5.... I'd say remove cloak but give them more and better mobility

[@arcanum3882]

There’s no way anyone who understands the game’s current balance problems can say they are happy with these changes, or more so, the lack of changes

[@ItachiC2Z]

​@@arcanum3882 fr fr

[@jordankelly4684]

​@@arcanum3882 take off your rage glasses, he's right

[@MrTylerRico]

@@jordankelly4684nah he’s not if you can’t hear invis and can’t kill a light you just suck

[@rezlerr_]

@@MrTylerRico someone who gets it

[@NotAmindlessDrone]

The Devs appear to be centring the game around Heavy & Medium classes & are just continuing to nerf Light out of existence. At this point they may as well just remove Light class from the game & just have Medium & Heavy classes running around killing each other. What point is cloak & vanishing bomb if its even easier to see?? defeats the purpose of cloak/invis. The previous nerf to Cloak was already bad enough & way too much & now cloak just gets worse with this latest update.

[@Aliumei]

Barricade nerf* you cant head glitch with it anymore

[@rapidshot3033]

They should’ve just left it alone tbh

[@Aliumei]

@@rapidshot3033 It was very strong in high elo but idk yeah it’s a shame

[@spacesalmon9131]

​@@rapidshot3033I think the nerf is justifiable. Literally every heavy class is running dome, rpg, barricade. This nerf will give us options to use other heavy gadgets more.

[@terencewalker6786]

You bad if you gotta head glitch

[@bucket936]

I feel like it'll block doors fully now? I haven't tested yet

[@rgwa555]

I also cant believe they give cheaters a second chance and only ban them 7 days. WOW. PLS EMBARK AND EVERY GAME DEVELOPER. HARD PUNISH CHEATERS, NO OKE WANTS THEM, AND THEY ARE RUINING GAMING FOR ALL.

[@Shikori_Tsuru]

I hope that's a bait that has a purpose of catching more cheaters and banning them for good.

[@strassenpanzer5725]

Maybe if you goo behind the barricade u can headglitch again, for medium the height is perfect

[@der_baumstamm]

14:00 all you need is a riot shield player in your team to replace the old barricades with lol

[@berryvr7184]

Please, can you look at dagger, since update I think they broke the back stab meta with dashing. If you dash now, from infront of someone to get the backstab, it doesn't count as a backstab, even though it hit their back. please look into this.

[@Its_Lui]

Man that was quick

[@philalethes]

Yeah cuz he's just commenting live instead of thinking about it

[@ghostirq]

Still no mention of the heal beam glitch

[@amcsdmi]

glitch gun sounds sick. I want a light glitch gun that's does medium damage, and slows a little bit. maybe low damage but in an aoe (since light still doesn't have a nade launcher of any kind)

[@Dekor_theVandal]

Thank you as always

[@davidcorodeanu4535]

that's what i like about your videos, you don't only read the patch notes but actually test them in-game after

[@benitsenmeljoes8449]

Ottr Can you a do a guide about positioning and finding Off-angles

[@R0llU]

Learn how to use the dematerializer it will help you learn new angles.

[@armintor2826]

I bet with the goo gun you can still head glitch with the barricade. That might make the gun more valuable

[@MT_Gaming1016]

Bro I haven't played the finals ever since they nerfed lights cloaking device

[@kotasake]

Lol

[@akavhille4036]

Adapt lol, don’t just use the cloak man

[@sSteppingStones]

Just use dash and vanish bomb

[@kingjay6611]

@@akavhille4036ain’t about adapting, it’s about the direction they going. Wait till they nerf something you use

[@akavhille4036]

@@kingjay6611 they already have lol

[@rapidshot3033]

Lights definitely gonna suck in ranked play 😂 Idc still gonna play my light tho 💯😤💪

[@Codename067]

continue to be trash! nice job!!

[@redwed6]

I've always used AKM anyways so no change for me for the FCAR

[@hengzerzzerz7344]

Dev of this game love medium so much and hate light class. If you can't be invisible well and can easily be seen, then why use invisibility?

[@ygoeb13]

Just can’t move as much during invis. Invis is anti-fun anyway so most people will be happy

[@sujandhar6613]

invisibility is for being sneaky , quick in and out of fights for short period of time , not for ratting for whole match

[@amaridawkins64]

@@sujandhar6613 THANK YOU

[@Fighterjet-ew5lt]

I din't even play light, but what they did to the stun gun that's just too much, it's basically does nothing now.

[@little_9s]

Yea, it already had almost no effect on the Heavy but sneaking behind another Light or Medium and preventing them from using invis/dash or from healing another player was (most of the times) a guaranteed kill. Now the only usage I see is preventing a cashout and that's it

[@colinrobinson4233]

The devs do not understand their own game. Time to move on.

[@Fighterjet-ew5lt]

@@colinrobinson4233 I think the problem is that they are listening to the players a bit too much and making decisions trying to please players, which is a really terrible idea of balancing

[@colinrobinson4233]

@@Fighterjet-ew5lt exactly that. And I have it confirmed by a dev at Embark who is a close friend. They actually paid attention to the very few children crying on Reddit (of all places, can’t believe people still use that site in 2024 but hey) because they couldn’t counter Light class. Instead of GIVING A COUNTER TO INVISIBILITY, the devs just nerfed it straight into the ground. Tells you everything you need to know right there. This is a game made by incompetents. This is not for me. Shame, because it WAS balanced and it WAS fun until recently.

[@Fighterjet-ew5lt]

@@colinrobinson4233 yeah exactly until this patch everything was in a really balanced situation, the only thing they nedeed to do is buff some weapons and gadgets to make them vaible that's it.

[@hikozzy]

The meta is gonna go right back to M,M,H or H,H,M which is the least fun version of this game so lights dead and you’re forced to use what the devs want…. They’re trying to hard now and it’s killing the game

[@bolestah]

"CDeez nuts" lmao!

[@scvpest]

As a light main, I think the stun gun should actually have it’s range reduced or kept the same, not buffed. It’s effect duration reduced slightly, and not allow specializations to be used. Everything else is perfectly fine.

[@blackice5964]

I stopped using the stun gun recently anyway, i found it got me killed more than help

[@jeremycorbin2178]

Barricade change was a big ol nerf, can't shoot over it anymore, heavies steady taking L's. Probably quitting after this patch until they give me a reason to play again

[@fall5923]

Why is the cns hoodie not included in the event ?

[@incrediblis]

these devs just don't miss, what other game gives u 2 extra pages half way through the season

[@eggotheegg961]

Are bonus page are free or paid

[@Aliumei]

This was real quick lmao

[@teknyon]

Stun gun deserves this but damn wow is it already hard enough using grapple light

[@knarwhals]

Nooo why did they do that to my barricade😂😭

[@TheAstriix]

Base movement feels buffed also the Akm recoil feels easier

[@DailyRLClips123]

“ pulls out stun gun… sprays m11… guaranteed kill every single time… Until this new patch. Now lights actually need to be skillful getting kills

[@novaq1347]

Stun gun is now SLOW GUN.

[@GmanMusic12]

After taking a break of this game as heavy main 3 months later the game feels so rough to play now. If everything is unbalanced then everything is balanced. Sucks they nerd everything to the point it’s less fun

[@Ratscallion_exe]

To all complaining with light class, you are not supposed to stand still or in front of gunfire, but run around the map -Knife can insta-kill any archetype with a backstab (Heavy is 1 face slap worth of hp) -LH1 is a ranged battle rifle with high headshot multiplier and ******* firerate -M11 has bigger mag and better, faster hipfire, but XP-54 has safer (more distant) killing distance -Sword has 1 charge, 1 quick melee for Light. 1 charge, 1 slash and 1 quick for Medium. 2 charges and 1 slash for Heavy. -SR-84 is always 2 headshots for Heavy, 1 Headshot 1 punch for Medium, and instakill on Light headshots -93R and V95 have more crit cqc damage than SMG's -Throwing Knifes have high asf projectile damage on headshots, both right and left click -Double Barrel SH1900 can instakill light from cqc, 2 shot from larger distance (aiming a little more right leaning to actual dot center because S P R E A D), 2 shot a Medium, and leave Heavy class significantly wounded. Light has options to kill opponents or deal massive damage in shortest time possible, and abilities for constant flanks/repositioning There were better utilities than Stun Gun that can target more than one player. So the Stun Gun is less effective as you get more kills, since it would be better utilized in a 1v2 or 1v3 scenario that requires the enemy teammate to be stunned, and the enemy target DEAD. Its a crutch tool, when using a dagger, you backstab. When using a sword, you charge up your... "Charge". Prevent escapes or disable enemy groups, NOW STUN ALL YOU WANT (16 meters btw)

[@Amir-gu4qp]

lol ur dumb

[@kylerclarke2689]

You have brain damage if you think bringing up dagger is a good point here. Don't know what else to say.

[@Ratscallion_exe]

@@kylerclarke2689 What exactly brings you to the conclusion to comment on the person trying to provide a solution to the "Light archetype is bad" problem, insulting the inteligence of the writter, and dismissing every... single... argument, *...Because the dagger is bad due to its public reception?* That is a fact, DAGGER CAN BACKSTAB AND WILL INSTAKILL ANY MEDIUM OR LIGHT CLASS FROM BEHIND. No amount of shields, turrets, defibs, gadgets will change, if you get hit, you can't react, that is one less dude per team for each back stabbed. Get in, get out, work with your team as distraction, support them, revive them, run, play objective, repeat. Dagger is NOT THE META therefore the user clearly doesn't know what he is talking about... The issue is, Dagger is gimmicky, it doesn't work like any other weapon so its needs practice to adjust to it. Need Highground? Use the grapling hook and drop down on the enemy back, timing the attack near the moment of landing. Short range? Dash Specialization, 3 dashes to run around the map. Large horizontal jumps? Quick escapes? Closing the distance between you and the opponent? Dash got you covered. Cloak is cloak. You press the key, you become BARELY visible. Stand still and you become completely transparent. But wait, support the teammates, with dagger? YES, your team will be more thankful if you stay alive and revive them, rather than rushing in and dying in a blaze of glory. You have time reviving your teammates because: a)Enemy might not even know where did you run off b)You are the fastest class, if it means escaping, you are probably the most likely person from Medium-Heavy-Light combo to do so c)A Light archetype can carry A HEAVY DEAD TEAMMATE and revive them FULL HEALTH near the perfect spot to regroup and retake the objective, no matter the gamemode... It doesn't matter who I am, I played The Finals since Closed Beta 1 and 2. *It doesn't matter,* what matters is the key to becoming the best player in The Finals is ADAPTING to the strategies at place, and helping your teammates to win the tournament. The CORE aspect of the game is PLAYER CONTROL, only YOUR SKILL and POSITIONING can carry you through the worst. Your whole response doesn't provide any feedback or ANYTHING. Its not funny, its not helpful, just an insult as short as your wisdom on full-on display under a microscope. At least try to provide an argument next time, man :/

[@GaaraFPS]

@@Ratscallion_exeI truly think you’re taking the above average and up skill group too high into consideration this game is still growing and was never suppose to be considered a truly competitive game by nature as the devs stated. Regardless instead of nerfing everything into the ground buff the items that aren’t as attractive look much better, this game should be about skill expression and with the way they nerfed all of the melee items hit registration the fact that you even consider bringing up the knife is crazy. I get you care about the game but try not being a human computer for a second and consider how people “feel” while playing their “video games” We’re not here to make a million dollars via a tournament. Coming from a ex-t500 ow1 player High-end apex player And by nature a competitive fps MNK player.

[@crawdad6354]

There's a reason the knife is never seen in high ranked play since unless you're going against braindead players 9/10 times they will hear you and disintigrate you with an fcar. There's a huge divide in the community over the light class because yes the taser and invisibility are annoying but they are one of the very few things keeping lights afloat in a competitive setting. Light needs buffs to compensate for these nerfs which the devs did not release now so light is almost a useless class now in competitve.

[@rlanning4717]

That barricade nerf is GUTTING, barricade was honestly the only reason I played heavy.

[@sSteppingStones]

I love this patch man W Embark

[@mikee7271]

i was at the final of the video thinking "what the hell is that spray control" proceeded to like

[@Iykyk13]

Rob confirmed that they are working on a spectator mode for private matches

[@BilalAhmed-qj9rb]

I think reason why the devs nerf lights alot coz they actually listen to their community alot eo alot of people been complaining about the light class specifically the lightt class so its not the devs fault bout itt

[@FlipflopB]

Noooo. No more exploding mines while spectating 😢

[@mitchellozment9237]

As someone who solely plays light the stun gun nerf is GREAT. There is no convincing me the gadget was fun for anyone including me using it. Not to mention light use rates are really high in casual because of things like stun, and new players getting stunned and killed is a great way for someone to leave the game. High comp lights hardly use stun anyway and glitch got a buff

[@Ho55Delux]

Agree, to stronk and no one likes CC in any game

[@GaaraFPS]

There are like 5 high level lights and people don’t want a support light player that’s the issue, fun for me not for thee and the fact they just nerf everything instead of buffing anything in compensation, they say they have the statistics just make certain things just look more attractive and people have their preferred play style because that’s what this game should be..

[@chrispember172]

you literally have no clue what youre talking about, any high level light uses stun for the steal interrupt

[@SabanLeon]

Yeah thats the problem, you are speaking as a CASUAL light. So your opinion sucks as expected. The gadget still includes cc, so that isnt even nerfed as you can tell if you use 90% of your brain power

[@pmurphinc]

Glitch gun sounds like a good idea! lol

[@OctogonManny]

* light mains have left the chat *

[@rotian5723]

the barricade is a huge nerf lol

[@Shikori_Tsuru]

More Light nerfs all the while there are still no grappling hook buffs and no 93R buffs. Noice, glad I returned to maining Medium after the recent cloak nerf. Oh well, as a Medium main I'm happy to see the FCAR TTK nerf, my dedication to the AKM will be paying off.

[@ScurvyDog5-rx9xg]

did they nerf the M60? like i bought the skin for it, b/c it was my favorite gun, i feel like i cant kill anyone with it now

[@arcanum3882]

These changes are insane because the balance patch notes are unfathomably bad

[@monkey-with-the-drip5296]

Barricade no headglitch? Pfff, just use goo gun and put one goo in the middle lmao

[@darkking9836]

nerfing the light class is insane meanwhile heavy gets buffed

[@arcanum3882]

I hear you but heavy actually got needed because you can’t headglitch barricades anymore

[@darkking9836]

@@arcanum3882 that’s true and will definitely be a slight nerf overall, but even without barricade heavy is still great. done shield, rpg, and c4 are still great options

[@arcanum3882]

@@darkking9836 yes, everything in the game is weak now except Heavy Lewis/SA12

[@AKEG92]

Completely skipped over some of the best fixes in this patch by skipping UI

[@onepunchdoggo]

Yo I was just saying maybe they need to add more bullets and lower the damage of the fcar to make it easier for the casuals to play with wtf! Is Embark actually reading my comments?!? Still waiting on 93r and the famas to be actually usable and reliable just gotta say real quick.....

[@juliansinghbassi5320]

FCAR DAMAGE: Then: 25 DMG PER ROUND 540 ROUNDS PER MINUTE (RPM) 540/60 = ROUNDS PER SECOND = 9 RPS 25*9 =225 DPS(RAW, No reload) 20 rounds, 9 expended per second, 20/9 = 2seconds 22 miliseconds to empty mag reload speed=2seconds 15 milliseconds percentage of reload done in one second = (1s * 100%Reload)/ 2.15s = 46.51% (Aprox. ) 225 DPS RAW minus 46.51% of 225 DPS RAW equals: 120.35 DPS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now: 23 DMG PER ROUND 540RPM 540/60 = 9 RPS 23*9 = 207 DPS (RAW, No reload) 25 rounds, 9 expended per second, 25/9 = 2seconds 77milliseconds (almost 3 seconds to empty mag, overall more damage per mag but lesser burst) reload speed = 2seconds 15 milliseconds percentage of reload done in one seconds = (1s * 100%reload)/2.15 = 46.51% (Aprox.) 207 DPS RAW minus 46.51% of 207 DPS RAW equals: 110 DPS Conclusion (TLDR): While before the FCAR did do more Burst damage, it now deals a more lesser amount of DPS in exchange for more damage for each mag. Correct me if i'm wrong! you're welcome, and welcome to correct me! :D

[@OlafSouber]

Luckily nothing fun for light was not changed 🙏 only the sweat gadgets and abilities were changed

[@jtaalib]

They shouldn’t have nerfed the stun gun like that. I think simply allowing stunned players to crouch would have been enough. Crouching and hip firing woud still give you a fighting chance

[@TipSheikh]

Great Ui changes imo

[@ThePmcderm91]

Why keep nerfing light when ranked is entirely medium and heavy

[@ilevitatecs2]

Lights are finally dead, thank god. Insane that people were able to queue into ranked with daggers and effectively throw rating for other solo queuers. The sad part is that they’re still not evaluating rank based on performance so I think this change will have limited to no effect on ranked playerbase.

[@TipSheikh]

I think the stun changes help actually differentiate it from the glitch equipment. Otherwise it was a single use version of a glitch really

[@julio1148]

That was the initial intent

[@humanstew8866]

I like the light changes frankly. If you run glitch+stun gun together, light's poised to totally shut down a steal attempt

[@gouie2x224]

People hate light so much they need to add a hybrid build or something

[@-The-Golden-God-]

Stun gun change is great. The people crying about Lights being useless are outing themselves as low skill. I never use it and don't feel at a disadvantage. Lights should be competent at using movement to their advantage, not just crutching on smooth brain mechanics that only exist to appease the lowest common denominator.

[@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmz]

You'll say that about Lights but won't mention the fact WHY the stun gun is effectively useless? You can now ADS while stunned, you can use abilities while stunned, and yet you're saying the people complaining about Light's kit getting put into the ground are the ones who are among the "lowest common denominator of skill"? You have it completely backwards but aight lmao

[@trevorjensen4557]

You can’t handle a 150hp light is wild 💀❌ even when I’m stunned I’m still able to beam them try goin against lights at diamond ranked you finna get rocked

[@chrispember172]

i can almost guarantee you arent higher than plat 4

[@-The-Golden-God-]

@@chrispember172 Who says that I even play ranked? The people that actually play ranked are the minority of the playerbase.

[@chrispember172]

@@-The-Golden-God- and that's why you're not qualified to give an opinion on game play balancing changes, you don't understand the game enough. To be a successful light player you need way more skill than you would need to be equally successful with the other classes. you could solo queue as heavy all the way to plat 2 with pretty much no pushback at all.

[@SawyerBell-xn5uo]

This is the best update. I finally can actually rank up

[@smiteriuszryceriusz1258]

I don't like this Fcar nerf and barricades med have nerf turret , mines , defibrillator , Fcar what's next hilling beam? Jump pad? Zip line?

[@vd8033]

With all respect, healing beam deserves one tho. Playing against heavy with two pocket healers is painful and not fun at all.

[@Qomber9596]

​@vd8033 if youve played any games with healers, you know to target one of them first. That way the other healer will try to heal. 2 people shooting out famages the healing beam

[@seyedali7311]

I can't blieve they are nerfing light

[@TakaShiGUREEDO]

Stun gun nerfed YEEAAAAAH FINALLY!!! WHOOA!!!

[@SabanLeon]

Silver

[@trevorjensen4557]

*bronze

[@jondavidsenn5012]

The shield change makes no sense.

[@Chev29]

Fcar was the only viable thing against heavy lewis, guess i'll play heavy now

[@YS15478]

The finals got no class to it soo hard except light fr they want to kill the fun of the game ☠️

[@phant0mwolf421]

It almost feels like they are trying to drive people away from heavy and medium.

[@edwinhonein3593]

You mean the opposite?

[@phant0mwolf421]

@@edwinhonein3593 I meant to say "away from heavy and light and towards medium."

[@RansomKingdom]

You can drop THREE barricades now. The barricade chage is deceptive I'll admit. But that may be why they slipped us the ability to drop 3 now. I managed to play a few rounds this morning before work and I CAN CONFIRM you can now place at least 3 barricades but you can still only hold 2 charges at a time. It may be 4 but I only happened to notice it once and then tested it again but was unable to wait out the 4th cooldown before the match ended.

[@ShinyVeggie]

I think it's 4.

[@rmrx]

It's always been 2 charges and max 4 placed

[@timoteigabrielzapalia543]

I think adding the ability to use gudgets while stunned was a bit to much. Everything else is okay. Especially the fcar

[@Bebruh15]

They rly made light super useless with this one

[@jrra..373]

The stun gun was absolutely abused every single match for me in season 1 and the beginning of season 2 every game at least 3 or more lights using the stun gun specifically for kills I have thee deepest level of hate for the stun gun and the players who use it I hope next season they just delete it and replace it with something else Recon senses wasn't even half as annoying as the stun gun that thing is pure cancer even after the nerfs I still hope it gets deleted

[@JusAFarmer]

Idc care about the other stun changes, you should still be able to prevent utility, no point in taser. Gg

[@junglejim9005]

new patches terrible they didn’t address the terrible balance of most of the weapons KS shotgun is boarderline unusable in competitive play

[@malcolmcole4689]

Just what I need to see to delete my light class 😊