These commanders cheat, here's why you should play them! | Deck Driver MTG

[@jacksondupuis7348]

I like the fact that this came out at nearly the same time as Saberious Snail's video on what he calls "Counterweight Commanders." You both definitely look at this topic in a similar way.

[@RaphaelDDL]

As a follower of both, I can attest to this and how they did complimentary videos and that's cool xD They also both misspell my nick haha.

[@arrivtuber]

That is litterally the only reason why rograkh son of rohgahh is one of the best commanders in cedh. (Okay without partner he would probably be unplaybel) but the value he provides is unmatched. Turning on mana rocks like Springleaf drum, Mox amber or paradise mantle or "If you control a commander" effects or simply as sacrifice for Card draw, Mana or tutor effects in turn 1 is extreme advantage in tempo and value. The partner is only there for additional colors. Silas Ren gives you U/B and nothing more Tymna W/B and card draw and thrasios G/U and ramp/draw and an outlet for mana and the best combination is with Silas ren because of his colors I have never even seen a Silas in play. great video you got some really good insight into the format

[@ChrisDavis-tt1dj]

Agree. I play Silas Renn and every time I cast him people are confused. I have to explain that it is not a cEDH deck. Silas is an artifact recursion engine.

[@arrivtuber]

@@ChrisDavis-tt1dj I am surprised he doesn't see more casual play but then again I feel like partners , especially the original ones, are pretty fraund apon in casual

[@ChrisDavis-tt1dj]

@@arrivtuber I think the mono colored partners or partner with partners are fair. Most of the OG partners are pretty broken. My Silas deck is an on purpose janky vehicle build.

[@arrivtuber]

@@ChrisDavis-tt1dj yeah a lot of the ogs are busted and 2 color on top of that. My only partner deck is Malcolm and Vial smasher but with Obosh as companion and people often roll their eyes seeing the partners until they see obosh then people get confused XD

[@WitchingMoon88]

I absolutely ADORE my Jetmir deck. Thank you so much for talking about him, I never see anyone actually liking it

[@izzyskeemy]

*Jetmir is my baby I got the Flip Foil after I feel in love and people sleep on him*

[@BorisBidjanSaberi11]

Just won my first jetmir game on a new deck

[@izzyskeemy]

@@BorisBidjanSaberi11 you'll have more wins ahead of you

[@WitchingMoon88]

@@izzyskeemy The Secret Lair?

[@WitchingMoon88]

@@BorisBidjanSaberi11 Nice, congratulations! There will most certainly be more on the way

[@shmackydoo]

Great info as always. But I did laugh when you said "Jetmir can literally win the game on his own" all of his abilities require other creatures lol

[@MTG_PackOpening]

u mean like voltron commanders can win by itself? lol

[@erickschusterdeoliveira2662]

I already played Lagrella to good success before this video, specifically because she is a great enabler for blink decks and also plays as removal (and you can blink Eternal Witness!) but looking at her as a consistent removal spell makes me choosing her make much more sense

[@MAndrews976]

I, too, created a Lagrella deck with the plan of using her to accrue more blink value. However, the consistent availability of removal she provides is a menace to most tables. She also facilitates a combo plan that ends the game rather than draws out oppressive locks.

[@TheESTRAEL]

Already commented this but would be really excited for a video about strategies that are in opposite colors. like control decks with red/green or burn/indirect damage with white blue artifacts, or others... and finding creative ways to find commanders that fit your playstyle in those colors. also, you have the advantage of no-one expecting it! thank you for bringing us so much content man! Also, looking forward to another facecam video!!

[@deckdriverMTG]

I MIGHT have something adjacent to that video coming out tomorrow, but I'll make sure to cover something like this exactly probably next week. Sounds like a great idea!

[@pleasediscord1605]

i play a heavy red stax deck that transforms into hard voltron with slicer as the commander, works really well at higher level pods due to non basic lands being hit by blood moon.

[@keganbancroft3617]

Nelly Borka and Thantis the war weaver are good examples of control in boros and Jund run lots of goad effects and incentives to attack your opponents

[@JohnSmith-vk9ds]

There's another MtG content channel named Baumi who has a video talking about a commander deck he used to played centered around Norin the Wary. Norin wasn't actually the commander, it was built using Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer. You build a board state of card draw and other effects that check when a creature enters on your side, and around turn 4 or 5 you cast Rocco to tutor Norin into play. After that every turn that someone casts a spell or attacks, it triggers Norin's self-exile. So it was functionally a Blink deck in Naya colors.

[@TheInfamousCloaker]

I've personally been looking at "Plagon, Lord of the beach" as he is both a finisher and a card draw engine from the command zone.

[@alexgreenwood711]

Very surprised that Plagon is a 5$ card. Do MTG players despise going to the beach so much they shun my boy Plagon ? a 3 mana commander that offers potentially generous card advantage and let your bad creatures trade or even close a game ? Count me in.

[@TheInfamousCloaker]

@@alexgreenwood711 He has already done some good in cEDH as well

[@HarmonicResonanceScale]

He's probably written off as in the 99 of Arcades.

[@RipDeathriteShaman]

No this is Patrick!

[@Benjithegreat37]

I like Cheater commanders because they ensure you have part of your vegetables every game. This gives me more room for spicy cards and makes the game more consistent early on

[@Narutoloco66]

The first time I inadvertently came across this philosophy was with Aesi. I was green from the start but my decks were always a mess. When Aesi was previewed, the first thing that came to mind was “no one’s going to counter a ramp spell” and lo and behold Aesi ran a mean grip on my pod before I had to retire the deck

[@natelagrassa9337]

So much veggie talk… thought we were on an episode of veggie tales! 😂😂😂

[@deckdriverMTG]

That's the newest secret lair actually!

[@natelagrassa9337]

@ 😳🤨🙄 I’ve been playing since around 2001-2002 and all I can say is I’m about done/tired of new sets.

[@Dhernaolt]

I’ve been liking kellan fae traveler as an 8th and 9th card in the command zone. Embercleave sunforger, and colossus hammer are my main grabs

[@MONTUSKER]

This is why I love Frodo and Sam, IMO they fulfill both the true commander and true category commander at the same time for most brews.

[@robusterbrown1291]

I have an Elenda the Dusk Rose deck that runs very few token generators compared to most aristocrat decks because she usually gets to be a 20/20 and then explodes into 20 tokens for me to sacrifice. I call the deck vampire piñata

[@jebush1733]

One of my favorite decks I have right now is a dimir Basim Ibn Ishaq voltron deck Since it's a voltron deck I already tend to run protection but it gets easier with counterspells since it's a voltron deck with blue Basim by himself draws an extra card every turn but while it's only limited to one it replaces equipment that I cast and It's very easy to get more card draw in blue He also makes himself unblockable whenever you do cast a historic spells so evasion cards that I would normally run I can slot out for other things He also puts a +1/+1 counter on himself he He does connect with an enemy so he grows bigger by himself All that for only 1 blue and 1 black, Basim is a criminally underrated commander Edit: He's also one of the only recent AC characters that I actually like

[@ethanterry6363]

As much as I love to play sliver queen. It has a lot of pressure on its own to combo out, especially after its first death/exile. Lately I have been playing sliver legion in the command zone as well as a lot of recursion and the other lords in the 99. This has been the best placement to overrun the game for simply 5 mana when ever I’m ready to win the game

[@hellNo116]

i bought my tymna after 6 years of playing the game. so now i used her in casual. that card is insane. categorically insane. also i build a janky oops all the blinking engines with the curve of non ramp starting at 4. the deck was horrible. then i put tivit at the command zone... the deck is insane for what it is. in battlecruiser they cannot touch me late game. the amount of resources tivit ensures are bananas. commanders are so strong these days that i would argue that stax pieces like dranith shouldn't be that hated.

[@sceadumor]

Laughs in Derevi. Value engine, mana ramp, combo piece, guaranteed evasive creature.

[@Anonymous_Eyeballs]

Toski equip is one of my favorite decks, it's so cheesy and fun

[@givemebeans8519]

Playing hapatra as a "true" commander at the helm of a control deck, no infinites either. She's more than just a combo piece :)

[@zakkbatman410]

Woah there buddy Take it easy

[@TheKreve]

Kutzil my Beloved

[@Omniette]

I very much want to see you and salubrious snail do some sort of collaboration i feel like the two of you would mesh well together.

[@Kryptnyt]

Makes you think of Golos doesn't it

[@mofomiko]

Golos did everything wrong

[@gameronline9414]

Any budget toski deck ideas?

[@trysilv7185]

I dont like these new over performers.

[@martinolsen7183]

Im currently building Alela Cunning Conquerer. Im not sure what category to put her in but its mostly instant speed actions and tokens.

[@mirai-blue]

Imo it is a true Commander,but it depense how you build her. I personally would Play her Like a Control/Draw and Go Deck, so you're able to get the Most Out her ability, poking your opponents and goading their best creatures. Which is only possible,If alela is around.

[@martinolsen7183]

@ thats also how i have built her. Thx for the insight :). Maybe she is a bit of a monolith-commander, since the deck does not do much without her, although some of the alternative Fairie/rogue commanders is in the 99. Like anowon and tegwyll.

[@riogami432]

Hey driver! have you checked out Evereth, Viceory of Plunder? I am really interested in it as commander, wonder if you see future on her, or if you gonna build her.

[@Zanzibawrr]

I wonder to which category does my beloved Derevi, Empyrial Tactician belongs to.

[@jakeosiris3971]

countered a creature spell with an offer you can't refuse, no one caught it, realized hours later I cheated and stole the game from him 😔

[@TheWarden04]

I never understood why people use commanders that cheat themselves out, my commander tax was at 12 last night so yeah i understand now 😂

[@chinesefood421]

doesnt kutzil only draw one extra card per combat? hard to call it so many extra

[@deckdriverMTG]

Can be up to three cards each turn which is quite a bit. Toski's ability is a much better version or this effect, but kutzil adds its extra "grand abolisher" type effect

[@alfredorivera5764]

​@@deckdriverMTG And an extra color

[@fluff0000zz]

Looking for a card draw Ir giod finisher commnader Honestly happy to buikd anything atm.

[@CD-sl7ld]

i feel that way with my seizan perverter of truth deck. it lets me get pretty aggressive with my land count and minimal tutors.

[@Shroomz-zw3yu]

Currently working on a jeska kydele deck I'm trying to build it in a spelling shelll

[@yao8541]

Satoru umezawa is my favorite cheating deck. Literally makes ANYTHING (in dimir colors) unblockable, cost less than it should and uncounterable(unless if someine has stifle)

[@BorisBidjanSaberi11]

I made two of these already lmao

[@TyphosTheD]

I love a Commander that facilitates a strategy, but in a non-obvious way that can often take the other players by surprise. Xyris combat tricks tied to Impact Tremors effects, Jodah Archmage Eternal using a looping Grozoth 9-CMC tribal combo, Marisi combat ramp (ie., cards like Radha and Savage Ventmaw) with MLD finishers, etc.

[@globbaslobba]

prossh is just my token generator and sac engine! i swear! lol

[@alfredorivera5764]

Jetmir is my favorite commander. Was really underrated when he came out, people said "it's only damage, no value". Yeah, but its a LOT of damage. Now people fear the moment Jetmir hits the battlefield