These DOMINATE The SKY over the BATTLEFIELD.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

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[@roncfpv]

Very comprehensive. This clip covers a few hours of lecture of integrated air defence at Air Force Schools!

[@cannonfodder4376]

Yet another informative video. People get so caught up in comparing systems in Top Trumps that they never realize that these systems were designed to operate as part of a system. Alas machines get the attention and never the doctrines of design or intended use.

[@wiryantirta]

OTIS is right tho, we kinda want to hear about that US F-35 order reductions too

[@sevrent2811]

TLDR: COVID = disrupted supply chains = cant make as many F35 + more expensive

[@neniAAinen]

That's why supermarket lady dumped you too!

[@BrunoViniciusCampestrini]

Since there was no reduction on the total acquisition numbers, they are probably reducing the number of orders this year to minimise the number of F-35s that will need to be updated to the block 4 standard

[@Milvus_In_Excelsis]

@@sevrent2811 it's cheaper than ever

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Slight correction: Chain Home was not the first IADS System. It was one component of the _Dowding system,_ which was the first IADS. The Dowding system was composed of Chains Home, the royal observer corps, a dedicated phone system, a single master map which updated the smaller maps held at each base controlled by the WC who directed their interceptors and AA guns.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Thanks for pointing out!

[@carldavies4776]

Enjoyed this one in particular Gus...in fact I enjoy the coverage of AA systems generally..good stuff

[@teashea1]

very intelligent, articulate and organized. So well done.

[@jakedee4117]

Very interesting. I can see how the general concepts here could be adapted for use in other domains. Cyber security or law enforcement, for example.

[@michaeldenesyk3195]

Thank you MIllennium 7! Informative video. I was watching a video about the US Army MGM140 ATACMS. With its range and precision, it could also be a major part of DEAD of enemy IADS.

[@gunner678]

Very interesting. I'm an old British Army air defender. The days of establishing an ADA and SHORADEZ seem rather more important today.

[@watdeneuk]

Treath ^^. Good video once again.

[@strizhi6717]

Regardless your stance on the whole thing I can't help but absolutely love your videos. Always articulate factual and comedic - best regards your happy sub

[@Elysian_Angel_]

Nice explanation! Thorough enough so make the viewer appreciate the complexity of an IADS, without oversaturating our poor brain cells 😉

[@johncasteel1780]

Correlation: In PATRIOT, battery fire control (ECS) and battalion fire control (ICC) use the same weapons control computer. The radar is "just" a computer peripheral picking up a "bunch of targets". The ICC does not have a radar. It depends on data from the ECSs and data downloaded from higher, so it needs to correlate a "*big* bunch of targets".

[@ExtremeUnction1988]

One of your best and most interesting videos. Very cool, very thought-provoking, and informative!

[@teddy.d174]

Otis is extra prickly this morning, it sounds like he needs some espresso…😆 Excellent video Millennium7!

[@tolson57]

Nice use of the F-14 AWG-9 Tactical Information Display (TID) for your Tracks explanation.

[@phoneticau]

Must have some very insane analouge to digital conversion sampling rates & bit depth with massive digital signal procesing grunt, saying that export controls on analouge to digital converters greater than 16 bits & 250 Mhz sampling rates are the limit for civilian software defined radio powerful hardware, I know off the record many governments agencies are very angry what civilians got access to.

[@johncasteel1780]

Original PATRIOT radar (ca. 1985) had 12 bit A/Ds running at a 5 MHz sample rate feeding three 5 MHz DSPs.

[@moritzostbomk3436]

I more and more like the sidekick. Otherwise what im here for thanks for the work

[@amzalkamel3009]

Exceptionnal content as always 🙂🙂, Can you do an episode about the future of AWACS function, it seems that in the future it will be done by drones, many thanks

[@Ni999]

Nice reference, well done. Any news on a future update availability for the _Overlord Transcendental Information System_ that leaves off the laugh track?

[@chemiker494]

Things can still go wrong, and at least 3 civilian airliners have been shot down by such systems (Iran Air 655, Malaysian Air 17, and Ukraine International 752), with the loss of 800 innocent lives

[@SuperSetright]

All three were intentional.

[@rynopot]

love your intro! You are one of my favourite KZbin creators! (Yes I am subscribed) I am a MASSIVE Gripen fan, and that's how I got hooked on your content. If only the damn US $ wasn't so outrages for us South Africans, I could've joined the Patreon channel too!

[@stonedsnakestudios]

I lost my sides at 'Threaf' :') Great vidoe!

[@sebsunda]

Well... That was a very good overview of the "Kill Chain" concept.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

well the wars in the Balkans also used An2 aircraft because they were so slow they were also filtered out :)

[@risingpower3658]

You know so much. I am glad to be able to understand what you say. You know, this going automatic is incredible. Imagine one of the F-15s in a dog fight. The plan could allow for pilots to take a snooze, while the AI destroys the target. With less limits, they could turn inside the enemy. Bye bye enemy. I wonder if it's ethical to conk out your pilots so you could win.

[@zofe]

Bayesian Probability and the Radar-Problem

[@kevinl2482]

That into😆, did not know it could have been better than the last one

[@lordsqueak]

Wow , i actually found that box of rings, just when I needed it for the shower curtain. no idea what decade I bought them.

[@steelrad6363]

Thank you.

[@plasmafoal1117]

Poor Otis

[@mosca3289]

Super interesting.

[@simulatedpilot3441]

It would suck to be driving down the autobahn in your AMG Mercedes and get hit by an amram

[@0MoTheG]

As long as the ground based AD doesn't have look down capability because of terrain elevation it must be paired with long wave AWACS.

[@salamanderpete]

Super interesting!

[@ghostindamachine]

Did I find a .gif with the host and a bottle of water as tears? regardsless, very interesting vid!

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

What?

[@NoName-ds5uq]

At 4:04 it looks very similar to the diagram we were given in my basic radar course on radar theory in the navy 34 years ago. 🤣

[@gunner678]

Air Defended Area ADA and SHORADEZ short range (or medium etc) Air Defence Engagement Zone. I'm an old air defender.

[@rajatdani619]

They all have one thing common that is..... They all are Airdefense system.

[@fenrir834]

all of them have missiles, they have missiles wich run on a rocket motor

[@andreastoppa1298]

4:18 Fun fact: Aerogallo I-9923 built by Ottone Baggio and flown by ( the only one who can 😅) Daniele Beltrame

[@gorethegreat]

Great video

[@smokincrater]

Great video.

[@thelovertunisia]

The Wasserfall missile was the first SAM.

[@wrongturn3485]

Please make a detailed video on jf 17 block 3 in comparison with its rival fighter jet's

[@theunbeatable1755]

How good is the s-500?

[@pioneer_1148]

Considering a lot of nato Vehicles already have remote controlled 50 cal's or 20mm could you not simply add a tracking system to that to counter drones? It doesn't cover all your basis but it goes a long way and I'd assume you could mass produce those turrets, or something like them for $50,000 or less to provide local air defence. Also in terms of drone to drone combat why not simply stick a machine gun or auto-cannon on a drone?

[@iafenthusiast476]

Content on helos . Apache, mi35,ka 52 etc , please

[@Igors_mind]

How about Izreal's " Iron dome". Fast targets, low observability?

[@rajatdani619]

Israel*

[@joostvanwijk3842]

Interesting video, thank you sir.

[@randyhavard6084]

All have a very high price tag

[@joaovitorsilvagohl682]

How realtime or close to real time remote sensors are a part of those kind of systems

[@tuy60]

Nice history lesson. A system designed to shoot down very expensive maned fighters and bombers with very expensive anti-aircraft missiles. The problem is using them with drones, hundreds of cheap smart drones, arriving all at once. an Africanized Bee swarm of drones. shoot them down or get stung. Run out of missiles because they were to expensive to make in quantity. The economics of these systems do not work for most countries.

[@alifio2183]

That's where the Holy BRRRT comes. *the drone fly 5km high* Oh no our bullets cant reach it!! 😳😱

[@evilshews]

I think this is where the development of directed energy, and emp systems will become critical for highly developed nations.

[@ivanstepanovic1327]

So far, S-400 is the only one that has scored an manned aircraft kill in realistic combat situation. And achieved it from the distance of 150km, from another country (Belarus).

[@karlchilders5420]

Negative, iron Dome, aegis and patriot have all scored kills. What's funny to me is all the nice Russian aircraft littering the Ukrainian countryside. Thought that Russian shit was powered by unicorn farts and was invulnerable??? We see how weak Russia really is, and anyone that is a professional has already known it for over 50 years now.

[@teddy.d174]

@@karlchilders5420 Yup…what 👆🏼 wrote.

[@angusarmstrong6526]

Bet you didn't realize how often you were going to need to say "threat" until it was too late!!!

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

and "actually" too... 🙄

[@alinili5569]

Ottis needs a scalp back of the hands

[@simulatedpilot3441]

So you did download DCS f*** yeah, you got to take to the air so I can splash you!!!

[@adamgamba6673]

you talk about spoofing....around 6:40ish.....any insight on the ISKANDER spoofing mechanism that seemingly no one knew it had available and how important to the west is it now that they know about it....kind of a broad question....mostly just want your opinion on it....thanks again M7

[@alexandermarken7639]

Ideally the best weapon to intercept a drone is another drone with some kind of shotgun for example. A 12 gauge with bird shot would work on up to 100 kg drones and a 7.92mm machine gun would do the larger. And be cheap.

[@kreb7]

Automatic shotgun ie aa-12

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Damn "i was going so fast in my porscha that the yankees tought i eas a fighter jet" what a flex

[@AbdelmoumenBacetti]

So it is all about the supermarket lady 😏

[@Ni999]

It always has been - it's why supermarkets were invented.

[@sTL45oUw]

They all shoot down flying stuff

[@dwightstone7483]

Great show....PS sorry she dumped you...there will come a day she'll regret it 😇

[@ArveEriksson]

Driving your car fast enough to be picked up by an air defence system?? What is wrong with some people... -_-

[@johncasteel1780]

If an air defense system can detect a helicopter, . . .

[@Minh-Tran-04]

I’ll be surprised that OTIS is still alive after roasting that much

[@martinolivera3580]

Ahahaha !!! Great Intro.

[@Chironex_Fleckeri]

Can Patriot system compete with S-400

[@olexp9017]

There are doubts Patriot can compete with S-300.

[@Chironex_Fleckeri]

@@olexp9017 Yeah maybe in the 1990s

[@johncasteel1780]

Not on range. It wasn't designed for that.

[@randomuser5443]

A10 with aim 9x is an air defense platform

[@drawingboard82]

You can do better than the supermarket lady. Plenty more fish in the sea 😜

[@1KosovoJeSrbija1]

If the answer is that they don't work, I'm gonna be disappointed in humanity.

[@darkofc]

👍

[@aaroniter8163]

OTIS dropping shit is good :D

[@TheKeithvidz]

4:37 e3 can pick up ground targets? I'd known the e8 JOINTSTAR was optimized for tracking those. Live and learn.

[@TheKeithvidz]

@@AB-yn2rz not outside the realm of possibility.

[@johncasteel1780]

The key word is "optimized". In Germany, one of our PATRIOT sites was in the hills overlooking an autobahn. Occasionally, the system picked up vehicle traffic. A software update solved that problem.

[@TheKeithvidz]

@John Casteel 104 is an air defence missile but I can believe it. Thanks.

[@johncasteel1780]

@@TheKeithvidz Ground clutter, whatever the cause, has always been a problem with radars. In the old days when HAWK was still active in US inventory, Hawk CW target tracking radars used to lock up on the doppler shift from rotating air conditioner fan blades. Marine Hawk units at Cherry Point, NC had problems with their radars locking up on offshore, wavetop returns.

[@TheKeithvidz]

@John Casteel I knew MIM 23 rounds dived on low altitude targets. Clearly more extreme than that. FYI politely I had known clutter an issue for much of radar's history.

[@onogrirwin]

What's the cost difference between a large complicated SAM and a small uncomplicated fighter (Something in the spirit of an F-5)? It seems like it's not a straightforward assumption that large complicated SAMs are the most efficient method of air defence.

[@carldavies4776]

That's a thought I've had for a while...a relatively small/simple fighter with a decently low RCS with BVR missiles using data sharing rather its own radar could do a lot of damage... equally a loyal wingman type platform could work...it'd give any weapons a decent kinematic advantage

[@swordsman1137]

I think SAM is more cost effective, and its also can work 24/7 theoritically. The fighter probably only work 4-6 hours per day (more if you have another pilot) but its also more maintenance heavy

[@Mike-ukr]

I feel a better comparison would be an air-to-air drone, like what Turkey is developing now

[@johncasteel1780]

The problem is not that simple. For instance, Saudi Arabia has the hardware for a capable integrated air defense system (35 mm guns for point defense, Crotale and Shahine, think ER Crotale) for SHORAD, Hawk for medium range, and Patriot for long range, all working on different frequencies). They can pick the cheapest weapon available to kill the oncoming aircraft. But . . . , you must factor in the potential damage that the invader can do to the defended asset. At that point, efficiency ceases to be a factor.

[@swordsman1137]

Not first. But early enough

[@BBBrasil]

You look very alike Tom Nichols, has anyone told you that?

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Do you mean the professor?

[@fenrir834]

he does look a bit like him,

[@namelesswarrior4760]

Are they still dominating the skies in Ukraine now?

[@zyxzevn]

False positives. Like airliners. And with old systems one person has to decide under stress, whether the bleep is a bomber or a passenger jet. Happened 2x near Iran.

[@fenrir834]

The super market lady seems to be a titan level female based on the pic provided

[@Waltham1892]

The Russians have embraced integrated air defense, and by embracing Russian equipment, so have the Ukrainians

[@crumcon]

they ALL have IN COMMON that... they cannot stop Kinzhal Hypersonic missiles. There i finished the title.

[@Milvus_In_Excelsis]

Why can't they do that?

[@karlchilders5420]

Not sure where you get that data, but it is not accurate.

[@bastadimasta]

True, Kinzhal stops itself by being Made in Russia.

[@karlchilders5420]

@@bastadimasta Well, there is that. We can see the CLEAR "quality" of Russian technology, discipline, tactics, logistical supply and morals on display there in Ukraine. They better hope to god they don't pick a fight with NATO: they'll get fucked up like a presidential campaign promise... However, the AEGIS system has capabilities that have been updated over the years, and I am here to tell you that even if the "Kinzhal" was more than the vaporware it now is, AEGIS would present a very formidable obstacle.

[@yaronk1069]

@@Milvus_In_Excelsis Most of the systems mentioned have a doppler notch (speed range) that the Kinjal will be designated as "spoof" (a clutter or not a real target) because it's too fast. if you recall M7 gave an example of cars as a false positive, the cars that are speeding are crossing the threshold of the doppler notch from below, the Kinjal is crossing the notch from above. hope this explains

[@idwalwilliams3713]

OTIS need a charge

[@zahnatom]

Lol, didnt expect an E-3 to see a car... but thats a very german thing ngl... My guess is that the speed limit is around 200-250kph so its not surprising that a car went faster...

[@oniongingertomato2216]

No extra noises like a tv comedy please, somehow, it's funnier without it.

[@carldavies4776]

Have to agree on this end.. Sounded a like a British sitcom form the 80's in places and I'm still having flashbacks from them 😁

[@tluangasailo3663]

AEGIS is the ultimate best air defence system , it's literally a combination of S400 and S500

[@chiron13]

More like S300 plus S500. It's good at defending ships from incoming ballistic missiles but does not have air defense the range of an S400.

[@tluangasailo3663]

@@chiron13 no...it's not...SM6 can engage aircrafts up to 460 km , and is also a multipurpose, it's is also anti ballistic missile, anti cruise missile, anti ship missile, and UAV. For long range, SM3 can engage ballistic missile up to 2500 km

[@chiron13]

@@tluangasailo3663 Ok I agree with the range of the SM6, though it is estimated. But the SM3 or SM6 do not fly up to an altitude of 2500 kms. The flight ceiling of the SM6 is 34 Kms, less than the 60 of the 48N6E3 missile of the S400. 2500 kms is the range of ballistic missiles that they are meant to intercept. Btw the S500 has intercepted a target at a distance of 482 Kms. The planned range is 600 Kms. So both the S400 and S500 are ahead in range and flight ceiling.

[@tluangasailo3663]

@@chiron13 does S500 intercept intercepted ICBM on a test? SM3 did in 2020

[@chiron13]

@@tluangasailo3663 You forgot to mention the key word_ SIMULATION. The target was not an actual ICBM, it just represented an ICBM. Btw, S500 is meant to intercept IRBMs. For intercepting ICBMs Russia uses the A-135 ABM and in the future the A-235 under development. I think their tests involve simulated targets too instead of actual ICBMs.

[@bastadimasta]

Please stop Otis jokes, or any other jokes and give us just the Information. We are here for that, we like you for it.

[@carldavies4776]

Some of us enjoy the humour too...Gus is actually a funny guy

[@Weisior]

Please dont discriminate Otis. Hes an important part of this show!

[@teddy.d174]

Hey man, don’t insult Otis. We love it when Otis jokes/mess’ around, please DON’T stop!

[@peceed]

Let him have some fun!

[@williamtell1477]

Long time subscriber here, I think you gave your feedback nicely and constructively. I tend to also want to get to the content but a lot of people like the humor. If the channel gets more viewers and subscribers so we get more of this great content, I’m good. Still waiting on that BVR Tactics video Gus! ;) cheers everyone.

[@ravener96]

Holy crap the robot voice has gotten incredibly annoying since last time i checked in

[@fugana5073]

Not true at all.

[@eluilus4017]

🙏 for Russia China India in the name of Jesus Christ 🙏

[@isaacaddey317]

Early

[@cathyfitzpatrick8039]

Your silly attempts at humour with Otis are very annoying.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Sorry that you don't like it.

[@peterparker5484]

Deutche autobahn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣