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@roncfpv2 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive. This clip covers a few hours of lecture of integrated air defence at Air Force Schools!
@cannonfodder43762 жыл бұрын
Yet another informative video. People get so caught up in comparing systems in Top Trumps that they never realize that these systems were designed to operate as part of a system. Alas machines get the attention and never the doctrines of design or intended use.
@wiryantirta2 жыл бұрын
OTIS is right tho, we kinda want to hear about that US F-35 order reductions too
@sevrent28112 жыл бұрын
TLDR: COVID = disrupted supply chains = cant make as many F35 + more expensive
@neniAAinen2 жыл бұрын
That's why supermarket lady dumped you too!
@BrunoViniciusCampestrini2 жыл бұрын
Since there was no reduction on the total acquisition numbers, they are probably reducing the number of orders this year to minimise the number of F-35s that will need to be updated to the block 4 standard
@Milvus_In_Excelsis2 жыл бұрын
@@sevrent2811 it's cheaper than ever
@MostlyPennyCat2 жыл бұрын
Slight correction: Chain Home was not the first IADS System. It was one component of the _Dowding system,_ which was the first IADS. The Dowding system was composed of Chains Home, the royal observer corps, a dedicated phone system, a single master map which updated the smaller maps held at each base controlled by the WC who directed their interceptors and AA guns.
@Millennium7HistoryTech2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out!
@carldavies47762 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this one in particular Gus...in fact I enjoy the coverage of AA systems generally..good stuff
@teashea12 жыл бұрын
very intelligent, articulate and organized. So well done.
@jakedee41172 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I can see how the general concepts here could be adapted for use in other domains. Cyber security or law enforcement, for example.
@michaeldenesyk31952 жыл бұрын
Thank you MIllennium 7! Informative video. I was watching a video about the US Army MGM140 ATACMS. With its range and precision, it could also be a major part of DEAD of enemy IADS.
@gunner6782 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I'm an old British Army air defender. The days of establishing an ADA and SHORADEZ seem rather more important today.
@watdeneuk2 жыл бұрын
Treath ^^. Good video once again.
@strizhi67172 жыл бұрын
Regardless your stance on the whole thing I can't help but absolutely love your videos. Always articulate factual and comedic - best regards your happy sub
@Elysian_Angel_2 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation! Thorough enough so make the viewer appreciate the complexity of an IADS, without oversaturating our poor brain cells 😉
@johncasteel1780 Жыл бұрын
Correlation: In PATRIOT, battery fire control (ECS) and battalion fire control (ICC) use the same weapons control computer. The radar is "just" a computer peripheral picking up a "bunch of targets". The ICC does not have a radar. It depends on data from the ECSs and data downloaded from higher, so it needs to correlate a "*big* bunch of targets".
@ExtremeUnction19882 жыл бұрын
One of your best and most interesting videos. Very cool, very thought-provoking, and informative!
@teddy.d1742 жыл бұрын
Otis is extra prickly this morning, it sounds like he needs some espresso…😆 Excellent video Millennium7!
@tolson572 жыл бұрын
Nice use of the F-14 AWG-9 Tactical Information Display (TID) for your Tracks explanation.
@phoneticau2 жыл бұрын
Must have some very insane analouge to digital conversion sampling rates & bit depth with massive digital signal procesing grunt, saying that export controls on analouge to digital converters greater than 16 bits & 250 Mhz sampling rates are the limit for civilian software defined radio powerful hardware, I know off the record many governments agencies are very angry what civilians got access to.
@johncasteel1780 Жыл бұрын
Original PATRIOT radar (ca. 1985) had 12 bit A/Ds running at a 5 MHz sample rate feeding three 5 MHz DSPs.
@moritzostbomk3436 Жыл бұрын
I more and more like the sidekick. Otherwise what im here for thanks for the work
@amzalkamel30092 жыл бұрын
Exceptionnal content as always 🙂🙂, Can you do an episode about the future of AWACS function, it seems that in the future it will be done by drones, many thanks
@Ni9992 жыл бұрын
Nice reference, well done. Any news on a future update availability for the _Overlord Transcendental Information System_ that leaves off the laugh track?
@chemiker4942 жыл бұрын
Things can still go wrong, and at least 3 civilian airliners have been shot down by such systems (Iran Air 655, Malaysian Air 17, and Ukraine International 752), with the loss of 800 innocent lives
@SuperSetright2 жыл бұрын
All three were intentional.
@rynopot2 жыл бұрын
love your intro! You are one of my favourite KZbin creators! (Yes I am subscribed) I am a MASSIVE Gripen fan, and that's how I got hooked on your content. If only the damn US $ wasn't so outrages for us South Africans, I could've joined the Patreon channel too!
@stonedsnakestudios2 жыл бұрын
I lost my sides at 'Threaf' :') Great vidoe!
@sebsunda2 жыл бұрын
Well... That was a very good overview of the "Kill Chain" concept.
@mrrolandlawrence2 жыл бұрын
well the wars in the Balkans also used An2 aircraft because they were so slow they were also filtered out :)
@risingpower3658 Жыл бұрын
You know so much. I am glad to be able to understand what you say. You know, this going automatic is incredible. Imagine one of the F-15s in a dog fight. The plan could allow for pilots to take a snooze, while the AI destroys the target. With less limits, they could turn inside the enemy. Bye bye enemy. I wonder if it's ethical to conk out your pilots so you could win.
@zofe2 жыл бұрын
Bayesian Probability and the Radar-Problem
@kevinl24822 жыл бұрын
That into😆, did not know it could have been better than the last one
@lordsqueak2 жыл бұрын
Wow , i actually found that box of rings, just when I needed it for the shower curtain. no idea what decade I bought them.
@steelrad63632 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@plasmafoal1117 Жыл бұрын
Poor Otis
@mosca32892 жыл бұрын
Super interesting.
@simulatedpilot34412 жыл бұрын
It would suck to be driving down the autobahn in your AMG Mercedes and get hit by an amram
@0MoTheG2 жыл бұрын
As long as the ground based AD doesn't have look down capability because of terrain elevation it must be paired with long wave AWACS.
@salamanderpete2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting!
@ghostindamachine2 жыл бұрын
Did I find a .gif with the host and a bottle of water as tears? regardsless, very interesting vid!
@Millennium7HistoryTech2 жыл бұрын
What?
@NoName-ds5uq2 жыл бұрын
At 4:04 it looks very similar to the diagram we were given in my basic radar course on radar theory in the navy 34 years ago. 🤣
@gunner6782 жыл бұрын
Air Defended Area ADA and SHORADEZ short range (or medium etc) Air Defence Engagement Zone. I'm an old air defender.
@rajatdani6192 жыл бұрын
They all have one thing common that is..... They all are Airdefense system.
@fenrir8342 жыл бұрын
all of them have missiles, they have missiles wich run on a rocket motor
@andreastoppa12982 жыл бұрын
4:18 Fun fact: Aerogallo I-9923 built by Ottone Baggio and flown by ( the only one who can 😅) Daniele Beltrame
@gorethegreat2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@smokincrater2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@thelovertunisia2 жыл бұрын
The Wasserfall missile was the first SAM.
@wrongturn34852 жыл бұрын
Please make a detailed video on jf 17 block 3 in comparison with its rival fighter jet's
@theunbeatable17552 жыл бұрын
How good is the s-500?
@pioneer_1148 Жыл бұрын
Considering a lot of nato Vehicles already have remote controlled 50 cal's or 20mm could you not simply add a tracking system to that to counter drones? It doesn't cover all your basis but it goes a long way and I'd assume you could mass produce those turrets, or something like them for $50,000 or less to provide local air defence. Also in terms of drone to drone combat why not simply stick a machine gun or auto-cannon on a drone?
@iafenthusiast4762 жыл бұрын
Content on helos . Apache, mi35,ka 52 etc , please
@Igors_mind2 жыл бұрын
How about Izreal's " Iron dome". Fast targets, low observability?
@rajatdani6192 жыл бұрын
Israel*
@joostvanwijk38422 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, thank you sir.
@randyhavard60842 жыл бұрын
All have a very high price tag
@joaovitorsilvagohl6822 жыл бұрын
How realtime or close to real time remote sensors are a part of those kind of systems
@tuy602 жыл бұрын
Nice history lesson. A system designed to shoot down very expensive maned fighters and bombers with very expensive anti-aircraft missiles. The problem is using them with drones, hundreds of cheap smart drones, arriving all at once. an Africanized Bee swarm of drones. shoot them down or get stung. Run out of missiles because they were to expensive to make in quantity. The economics of these systems do not work for most countries.
@alifio21832 жыл бұрын
That's where the Holy BRRRT comes. *the drone fly 5km high* Oh no our bullets cant reach it!! 😳😱
@evilshews2 жыл бұрын
I think this is where the development of directed energy, and emp systems will become critical for highly developed nations.
@ivanstepanovic13272 жыл бұрын
So far, S-400 is the only one that has scored an manned aircraft kill in realistic combat situation. And achieved it from the distance of 150km, from another country (Belarus).
@karlchilders54202 жыл бұрын
Negative, iron Dome, aegis and patriot have all scored kills. What's funny to me is all the nice Russian aircraft littering the Ukrainian countryside. Thought that Russian shit was powered by unicorn farts and was invulnerable??? We see how weak Russia really is, and anyone that is a professional has already known it for over 50 years now.
@teddy.d1742 жыл бұрын
@@karlchilders5420 Yup…what 👆🏼 wrote.
@angusarmstrong65262 жыл бұрын
Bet you didn't realize how often you were going to need to say "threat" until it was too late!!!
@Millennium7HistoryTech2 жыл бұрын
and "actually" too... 🙄
@alinili55692 жыл бұрын
Ottis needs a scalp back of the hands
@simulatedpilot34412 жыл бұрын
So you did download DCS f*** yeah, you got to take to the air so I can splash you!!!
@adamgamba66732 жыл бұрын
you talk about spoofing....around 6:40ish.....any insight on the ISKANDER spoofing mechanism that seemingly no one knew it had available and how important to the west is it now that they know about it....kind of a broad question....mostly just want your opinion on it....thanks again M7
@alexandermarken76392 жыл бұрын
Ideally the best weapon to intercept a drone is another drone with some kind of shotgun for example. A 12 gauge with bird shot would work on up to 100 kg drones and a 7.92mm machine gun would do the larger. And be cheap.
@kreb72 жыл бұрын
Automatic shotgun ie aa-12
@RogueBeatsARG2 жыл бұрын
Damn "i was going so fast in my porscha that the yankees tought i eas a fighter jet" what a flex
@AbdelmoumenBacetti2 жыл бұрын
So it is all about the supermarket lady 😏
@Ni9992 жыл бұрын
It always has been - it's why supermarkets were invented.
@sTL45oUw2 жыл бұрын
They all shoot down flying stuff
@dwightstone74832 жыл бұрын
Great show....PS sorry she dumped you...there will come a day she'll regret it 😇
@ArveEriksson2 жыл бұрын
Driving your car fast enough to be picked up by an air defence system?? What is wrong with some people... -_-
@johncasteel1780 Жыл бұрын
If an air defense system can detect a helicopter, . . .
@Minh-Tran-042 жыл бұрын
I’ll be surprised that OTIS is still alive after roasting that much
@martinolivera35802 жыл бұрын
Ahahaha !!! Great Intro.
@Chironex_Fleckeri2 жыл бұрын
Can Patriot system compete with S-400
@olexp90172 жыл бұрын
There are doubts Patriot can compete with S-300.
@Chironex_Fleckeri2 жыл бұрын
@@olexp9017 Yeah maybe in the 1990s
@johncasteel1780 Жыл бұрын
Not on range. It wasn't designed for that.
@randomuser54432 жыл бұрын
A10 with aim 9x is an air defense platform
@drawingboard822 жыл бұрын
You can do better than the supermarket lady. Plenty more fish in the sea 😜
@1KosovoJeSrbija12 жыл бұрын
If the answer is that they don't work, I'm gonna be disappointed in humanity.
@darkofc2 жыл бұрын
👍
@aaroniter81632 жыл бұрын
OTIS dropping shit is good :D
@TheKeithvidz2 жыл бұрын
4:37 e3 can pick up ground targets? I'd known the e8 JOINTSTAR was optimized for tracking those. Live and learn.
@TheKeithvidz2 жыл бұрын
@@AB-yn2rz not outside the realm of possibility.
@johncasteel1780 Жыл бұрын
The key word is "optimized". In Germany, one of our PATRIOT sites was in the hills overlooking an autobahn. Occasionally, the system picked up vehicle traffic. A software update solved that problem.
@TheKeithvidz Жыл бұрын
@John Casteel 104 is an air defence missile but I can believe it. Thanks.
@johncasteel1780 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKeithvidz Ground clutter, whatever the cause, has always been a problem with radars. In the old days when HAWK was still active in US inventory, Hawk CW target tracking radars used to lock up on the doppler shift from rotating air conditioner fan blades. Marine Hawk units at Cherry Point, NC had problems with their radars locking up on offshore, wavetop returns.
@TheKeithvidz Жыл бұрын
@John Casteel I knew MIM 23 rounds dived on low altitude targets. Clearly more extreme than that. FYI politely I had known clutter an issue for much of radar's history.
@onogrirwin2 жыл бұрын
What's the cost difference between a large complicated SAM and a small uncomplicated fighter (Something in the spirit of an F-5)? It seems like it's not a straightforward assumption that large complicated SAMs are the most efficient method of air defence.
@carldavies47762 жыл бұрын
That's a thought I've had for a while...a relatively small/simple fighter with a decently low RCS with BVR missiles using data sharing rather its own radar could do a lot of damage... equally a loyal wingman type platform could work...it'd give any weapons a decent kinematic advantage
@swordsman11372 жыл бұрын
I think SAM is more cost effective, and its also can work 24/7 theoritically. The fighter probably only work 4-6 hours per day (more if you have another pilot) but its also more maintenance heavy
@Mike-ukr2 жыл бұрын
I feel a better comparison would be an air-to-air drone, like what Turkey is developing now
@johncasteel1780 Жыл бұрын
The problem is not that simple. For instance, Saudi Arabia has the hardware for a capable integrated air defense system (35 mm guns for point defense, Crotale and Shahine, think ER Crotale) for SHORAD, Hawk for medium range, and Patriot for long range, all working on different frequencies). They can pick the cheapest weapon available to kill the oncoming aircraft. But . . . , you must factor in the potential damage that the invader can do to the defended asset. At that point, efficiency ceases to be a factor.
@swordsman11372 жыл бұрын
Not first. But early enough
@BBBrasil2 жыл бұрын
You look very alike Tom Nichols, has anyone told you that?
@Millennium7HistoryTech2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the professor?
@fenrir8342 жыл бұрын
he does look a bit like him,
@namelesswarrior47602 жыл бұрын
Are they still dominating the skies in Ukraine now?
@zyxzevn2 жыл бұрын
False positives. Like airliners. And with old systems one person has to decide under stress, whether the bleep is a bomber or a passenger jet. Happened 2x near Iran.
@fenrir8342 жыл бұрын
The super market lady seems to be a titan level female based on the pic provided
@Waltham18922 жыл бұрын
The Russians have embraced integrated air defense, and by embracing Russian equipment, so have the Ukrainians
@crumcon2 жыл бұрын
they ALL have IN COMMON that... they cannot stop Kinzhal Hypersonic missiles. There i finished the title.
@Milvus_In_Excelsis2 жыл бұрын
Why can't they do that?
@karlchilders54202 жыл бұрын
Not sure where you get that data, but it is not accurate.
@bastadimasta2 жыл бұрын
True, Kinzhal stops itself by being Made in Russia.
@karlchilders54202 жыл бұрын
@@bastadimasta Well, there is that. We can see the CLEAR "quality" of Russian technology, discipline, tactics, logistical supply and morals on display there in Ukraine. They better hope to god they don't pick a fight with NATO: they'll get fucked up like a presidential campaign promise... However, the AEGIS system has capabilities that have been updated over the years, and I am here to tell you that even if the "Kinzhal" was more than the vaporware it now is, AEGIS would present a very formidable obstacle.
@yaronk10692 жыл бұрын
@@Milvus_In_Excelsis Most of the systems mentioned have a doppler notch (speed range) that the Kinjal will be designated as "spoof" (a clutter or not a real target) because it's too fast. if you recall M7 gave an example of cars as a false positive, the cars that are speeding are crossing the threshold of the doppler notch from below, the Kinjal is crossing the notch from above. hope this explains
@idwalwilliams37132 жыл бұрын
OTIS need a charge
@zahnatom2 жыл бұрын
Lol, didnt expect an E-3 to see a car... but thats a very german thing ngl... My guess is that the speed limit is around 200-250kph so its not surprising that a car went faster...
@oniongingertomato22162 жыл бұрын
No extra noises like a tv comedy please, somehow, it's funnier without it.
@carldavies47762 жыл бұрын
Have to agree on this end.. Sounded a like a British sitcom form the 80's in places and I'm still having flashbacks from them 😁
@tluangasailo36632 жыл бұрын
AEGIS is the ultimate best air defence system , it's literally a combination of S400 and S500
@chiron132 жыл бұрын
More like S300 plus S500. It's good at defending ships from incoming ballistic missiles but does not have air defense the range of an S400.
@tluangasailo36632 жыл бұрын
@@chiron13 no...it's not...SM6 can engage aircrafts up to 460 km , and is also a multipurpose, it's is also anti ballistic missile, anti cruise missile, anti ship missile, and UAV. For long range, SM3 can engage ballistic missile up to 2500 km
@chiron132 жыл бұрын
@@tluangasailo3663 Ok I agree with the range of the SM6, though it is estimated. But the SM3 or SM6 do not fly up to an altitude of 2500 kms. The flight ceiling of the SM6 is 34 Kms, less than the 60 of the 48N6E3 missile of the S400. 2500 kms is the range of ballistic missiles that they are meant to intercept. Btw the S500 has intercepted a target at a distance of 482 Kms. The planned range is 600 Kms. So both the S400 and S500 are ahead in range and flight ceiling.
@tluangasailo36632 жыл бұрын
@@chiron13 does S500 intercept intercepted ICBM on a test? SM3 did in 2020
@chiron132 жыл бұрын
@@tluangasailo3663 You forgot to mention the key word_ SIMULATION. The target was not an actual ICBM, it just represented an ICBM. Btw, S500 is meant to intercept IRBMs. For intercepting ICBMs Russia uses the A-135 ABM and in the future the A-235 under development. I think their tests involve simulated targets too instead of actual ICBMs.
@bastadimasta2 жыл бұрын
Please stop Otis jokes, or any other jokes and give us just the Information. We are here for that, we like you for it.
@carldavies47762 жыл бұрын
Some of us enjoy the humour too...Gus is actually a funny guy
@Weisior2 жыл бұрын
Please dont discriminate Otis. Hes an important part of this show!
@teddy.d1742 жыл бұрын
Hey man, don’t insult Otis. We love it when Otis jokes/mess’ around, please DON’T stop!
@peceed2 жыл бұрын
Let him have some fun!
@williamtell14772 жыл бұрын
Long time subscriber here, I think you gave your feedback nicely and constructively. I tend to also want to get to the content but a lot of people like the humor. If the channel gets more viewers and subscribers so we get more of this great content, I’m good. Still waiting on that BVR Tactics video Gus! ;) cheers everyone.
@ravener962 жыл бұрын
Holy crap the robot voice has gotten incredibly annoying since last time i checked in
@fugana50732 жыл бұрын
Not true at all.
@eluilus40172 жыл бұрын
🙏 for Russia China India in the name of Jesus Christ 🙏
@isaacaddey3172 жыл бұрын
Early
@cathyfitzpatrick80392 жыл бұрын
Your silly attempts at humour with Otis are very annoying.