Eurovision 2024 was a Complete Disaster

Eurovision 2024 almost completely fell apart. Here's how it happened.
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[@BlueFlower___]

As a Finn, I'm now happy that Käärijä came 2nd last year since that means Finland was saved from hosting this shitshow

[@DutchJulian97]

Yeah indeed, and he is still a hero to this day!!

[@MasticinaAkicta]

It was such a SONG. It certainly was something different! I liked it!

[@mishynaofficial]

Sadly dude's a russophile.

[@joeribaby]

Käärija and Joost Klein: legends forever!

[@mishynaofficial]

Another russophile.

[@wilyriley_]

this year I have post-ESC relief, not depression

[@erinnadia0409]

Same it's such a strange feeling because every year I'm so sad when it's over and start counting down the days until Eurovision season starts up again. This year caused me so much secondhand stress that when it was over and Nemo won I felt so much relief but left with this hangover (which didn't come from alcohol but the show itself)

[@bowliestbowl]

you're here in the comment sections too????

[@wilyriley_]

@@bowliestbowl I’m everywhere :)

[@Ntinakkos]

Talk for yourself sweetheart ❤

[@xliza5242x]

I think I had during-ESC depression🙃

[@j.t.5178]

This year was a prime example of "they made their bed, and now they have to lie in it."

[@ashleyleckwold5091]

ESC 2024: F**k Around and Find Out

[@bmagada]

tbf treating the artist like shit is kind of a dick nove.

[@aflamingo003]

As a Dutch ESC fan, this year was just...so depressing. I'm honestly glad it's over

[@nick_5791_GR]

Same, I was literally scared during Friday night because of what was happening and after it was done I was relieved that it was over, fuck the EBU

[@KoalaEarsOz]

I feel your pain.

[@aphrodite._.4835]

@@nick_5791_GRso real. I couldn’t sleep at all tbh. Was checking my phone constantly at work Saturday but felt weirdly relieved when the news came to be (like, it’s over, finally!)

[@bobthebox2993]

I hope that if the Netherlands decides to not participate next year, my country follows their example.

[@wilyriley_]

@@bobthebox2993 Belgium has already confirmed their participation though iirc

[@HelloWorld-kt7jk]

as a dutch ESC-fan, this eurovision season has been wild. the double standards, lack of communication, and facist-like tactics to suppresses dissenting voices were absolutely shocking to witness

[@brakaduun]

I guess people should have paid better attention to when Martin Osterdahl completely disregarded Romanian jury vote, took them out of the live, and he presented some made up numbers by himself. Since then Romania does not participate any more invoking lack of budget. But everybody knows it's their way of saying 'Fuck the EBU'

[@Jona-cn3le]

Yeah, it was dictatorshiplike

[@mo4848]

I cannot see what you are saying. Joost was reported to the fucking police. Did anyone else get reported? No. So where is the double standard? Get over it.

[@emilybakker3742]

I didn't watch it and voted btw I am Dutch

[@saskiapanter]

​@@emilybakker3742 not 1 cent went to the ebu from me

[@benjamintic3653]

You know its huge when EU literally called the EBU out and every second broadcaster has complained about EBU and this years Eurovision, not to mention that many countries might want to quit, especialy the Netherlands

[@pewgarpolls]

if Moldova leaves, eurovision is fucked.

[@tagaway6173]

@@pewgarpolls What happened? There's talk of them not returning?

[@ladybird24]

Also the fact that the European Commission filed a report against the EBU for the banning of the European flag 🇪🇺 really escalates the situation Edit: sorry I changed my wording there hopefully most people knew what I meant 😅

[@Hana9916]

WHat???

[@cofidy]

imagine banning the European flag in EUROvision

[@ellaisalwayslurking]

it's so freaking funny istg. like how bad do you have to f up for the EUROPEAN COMMISSION to file a report against you 😭😂😭😂😭😂

[@JRi973]

For real?

[@llllila]

And they answered "we didn't ban the EU flag, we just didn't allow it"

[@FrancescoRosiYTP]

I'm 99.99% sure that Rai revealing the televote results was NOT a mistake. it's hard to explain, but basically, the graphic that was used to reveal the SF2 televoting results was one that had NEVER been used in the past to reveal televoting results (and it wasn't ever used again, not even in the final). in fact, it was in the same style as the other generic "lower-third" banner type graphics used, for example, in the credits at the start of the show. it's very plausible to think that a very brave Rai employee must have put this graphic together in a couple of minutes and """""accidentally""""" displayed it at the end of the show. Rai obviously came out and said that the graphic displayed "incomplete data", but we still "gave" our 12 televoting points to Israel, so they still probably lead the televote results by a massive margin.

[@cyonidee]

I just thing that Italy being a big five and having a reputation of being somewhat clumsy or disorganized were one of the very few who could have done it. And they did.

[@markdowd1]

It wasn't accidental. That's just naive. RAI saw that the Israeli machine was buying up simcards and using bots to buy the contest. These results were posted as a warning to the rest of Europe. I'm sure this part explains Israel's surprisingly poor jury result .

[@genericbrand2000]

I completely concur, RAI was warning everyone

[@anabltc]

I said the same thing the moment I saw it! that was a warning

[@BerylMorgan]

Not all heroes wear capes. Some heroes are Italian broadcasting employees and we love them dearly.

[@wldnemesis]

This year's theme, 'UNITED BY MUSIC,' seemed irrelevant, and with tensions running so HIGH, I was expecting to see punches flying around. I'm so sad for the whole thing. The Swedish police must have been overwhelmed by these unprecedented incidents, which ruined the usually good spirits you find in these events. Sometimes, I think that what brought the Eurovision to life is what might one day destroy it.

[@Merecir]

To get a feel for the tension, realize that the Swedish police even brought in earthquake disaster experts. -In case they needed competence for sifting through huge piles of rubble from collapsed buildings...

[@Lolikbenhier]

This year was not a contest, but a circus. -Coming from a Dutch person.

[@anssia3123]

Martin Österdahl You're Good To Go

[@perjus]

If there is any justice in the universe, he would think "I'm too old for this shit!"

[@verenabecker2724]

​@@perjusNah, if there was any justice, he should be thinking "I have terrible judgment and should never show my face in public ever again."

[@allterraindummy]

@@verenabecker2724 If there was any justice, we'd learn what dirt Israel has on him

[@WillMeganFan]

Love this comment 😂

[@Hgames_RBLX]

Oh, Jon Ola Sand just replied, he said “Take him away”

[@flaminiamariafuccelli8214]

REMOVE 👏 "MOROCCAN" 👏 OIL 👏 AS 👏 A 👏 SPONSOR!👏👏

[@Aaaaaaarrrpirate]

When I first saw it as a sponsor I thought it was an oil company, like petroleum, but that’s maybe even worse honestly.

[@Adam-zw5sq]

Why?

[@lafabias1876]

​​@@Adam-zw5sqBecause having as a general sponsor a company from one of the participating countries means conflict of interest. Being bound by a 5 year contract with that company means having to mind what they dictate or at least do what they expect. If that company is from Israel - which Moroccanoil is - the equation is writing itself. EBUs hands were tied this year due to their own stupidity to walk into this contract in 2020, that's why they couldn't suspend Israel from participating this year. The consequences are here and Mr Ö has some leaving to do, and the EBU management needs to reform the rules and never again have a general sponsor (at least not from any participating country), but many small ones from different countries.

[@lewismelrose4334]

@@Aaaaaaarrrpirate when i first saw it, i assumed they were moroccan

[@imscarlette1]

their contract expires this year 🔥🔥🔥

[@thethreestars]

I need therapy after Eurovision

[@brakaduun]

Everybody does

[@angerandangst8039]

I spent my last session talking only about eurovision

[@GABentCon]

The drama…

[@fandroid6491]

Even the therapy needs therapy from Eurovision

[@mariootjezh]

Snow flake

[@macalauresmuse]

I beg to differ. It was 95% a bin fire. Osterdahl getting boo'd was a highlight though.

[@florenna]

Well it was a highlight, but people actually getting to hear the actual booing for Israel would have been even better... And much more honest.

[@Shileah]

Germany had the fitting staging for that bin fire. Probably helped getting us up to 12!

[@shadowsisterhealing]

@@Shileah Lol indeed Germany was having bin fire.

[@macalauresmuse]

Hey it was a good song, much love from Scotland x

[@WillMeganFan]

​@@ShileahWell done Germany. 12 points from your friends here in the UK ❤

[@MiriamACNH]

The only fun part of this years Eurovision was the panic in Martin Österdahls eyes when he had to announce the Dutch jury points. And the obvious love the artists had for each other. For once the online ESC fans were united no matter which country they were from

[@MellowMylo]

All the artists really did their best and kept their heads as high as possible, despite being victims of unsolicited filming

[@Anelkia]

Yes the artists seemed lovely to each other and I'm glad they all got along❤

[@ReddoLeoMeme2401]

Somebody could write an award-winning spy story on the events of the 10th and the 11th of May

[@Eva-mp7xg]

We all know that there's a certain author who writes spy stories, and hopefully he'll have plenty of free time to start this job soon enough.

[@peterkeijsers489]

As a writer myself, I wouldn't dare to stick even my little toe into that snake pit!

[@busfahrer09]

you mean Shin Bet and Mossad which were present in Malmö? lol

[@ReddoLeoMeme2401]

@@Eva-mp7xgAbsolutely, last year i read dinner for two, and i liked its writing style

[@Merecir]

Mossad filming potential terrorist sympathizers.

[@victoriascheer5625]

This wasn't a shit storm, this was a whole shit hurricane

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

Israeli song reference.

[@macalauresmuse]

@@TheManInBlueFlames or Jim Lahey, Trailer Park Superintendant?

[@Sharknado225]

Eurovision was more gay this year than ever and i hated it

[@syrupsealpha]

@@Sharknado225 womp womp

[@afonsofsy5428]

@@Sharknado225womp womp

[@melonsodaproductions2838]

I think the finns can finally forgive us for not winning last year, because they really dodged a bullet… I do agree at least Petra kept the show together.

[@pikapika4240]

It's not really dodging just a bullet, it was dodging a NUKE.

[@mayppa]

As a finn this was excatly what I had on my mind 😅

[@norax3212]

Thank you Loreen🙏

[@henriikkak2091]

Do you follow Finnish news over there? That's literally the wording of an article on YLE, the Finnish broadcaster.

[@Nadia1989]

It was a blessing in disguise

[@FeeESC]

This year was fucking traumatizing especially as a Dutch fan

[@nick_5791_GR]

I'm Greek and even I was traumatized by this shit 😭 the drama surrounding it completely ruined the contest for me this year. I hope the Netherlands will automatically qualify next year (if you participate that is) it's honestly so outrageous how the Dutch delegation got fucked over and the EBU didn't even do anything about Israel.

[@randodutchguy]

Me too 😭

[@Roygbiv2543]

This was the worst contest ever! Eventually I am glad that Finland didnt get to host this shit show Joost is the winner of hearts forever!

[@moononastick8628]

Awful. Would be a so incredibly sad if the Netherlands doesn’t take part. Was also relieved the artists all made it out in one piece - it’s clear they’ve had a nightmare.

[@KoalaEarsOz]

Awful stuff.

[@missAsteegs]

It’s funny that the tasteless EBU press releases are still ongoing to this day. They are incredibly proud of all the streams this year, while the song that was the most streamed got disqualified. But of course, nothing is said about that.

[@TheGrimSqueak]

All your comments about petra mede are 100% accurate. No one could have steered this sinking ship like she did

[@Rita-gq9hp]

She is an actress and i think she was prepared.

[@Stefan_Van_pellicom]

Imagine standing there, having to carry this trainwreck … Takes balls!

[@Nadia1989]

Her back hurt for trying to save the contest by herself.

[@almamater489]

In general, I'm sorry for the Sweden. They're good hosts, and all their effort got stumped on by EBU giving princess treatment to one specific privileged delegation

[@Xeno_fqxb]

@@almamater489 svt deserved more respect. they tried their best hosting the contest on a tight budget but got stabbed in the back by ebu

[@ThaGamingMisfit]

This is the first year I felt mentally and even physically drained, starting from thursday evening. And I'm just a random viewer sitting at home. I can't imagine how it must have been being in Malmö. I don't think people can have another edition like this... I can't grasp how they made almost all worst decisions possible making everything backfire.

[@andi01452]

Honestly same, didn't think I'd write a way longer comment under yours, but here we go. I've never felt so stressed mentally and physically after watching Esc from home and I've done it for 14 years. I was generally happy tuesday to thursday and once all the drama came to light and everything happened I couldn't stop scrolling socials for updates or focus on my life outside the bubble. I cried at one point and overthought a lot for the affected contestants and was in moral shock of Israel actually doing very well with the voting. That feeling ended up affecting other things in my life as well and my general well being. In Malmö it must've been HORRIFYING. I'm just relieved Nemo won and huge respect for all the artists who all managed to put on great performances despite the havoc and lifted my mood up even just a little bit in the final. If this also happened to anyone else, remember to take extra good care of yourselves in the time moving forward, take a deep breath, give yourself a hug and enjoy the summertime.

[@zenit0]

@@andi01452 I was so stressed on the day of the final, I mowed the lawn by choice just to not think about what happened.

[@msdisco85]

I know the feeling. It was a relief in the end that I didn't have a party - cos various friends were busy elsewhere, it was just me and my bf. Right up to the show, I wasn't sure it'd be on, and I was rooting for Ireland, so if they hadn't turned up, I'd have switched off there. And I'd been having a rough month, so the Eurovision S***show Contest was not the experience I was looking forward to as a relief from the pressure. Much like Silvester Belt, I wished it had ended on Tuesday. And I also felt a sadness thinking that if it was actually held in Israel, I'd have to find a new hobby for 2025. And I've been watching since I was a 90s kid, so that'd be quite a task.

[@ar50000]

​@@zenit0deffo stressed on the day, just to keep up with what was happening.

[@itsachris]

Completely agree. Tuesday I enjoyed the first semi. Thursday I struggled even getting through the secon semi. I just felt this heavy negative energy weighing me down. Eurovision has been one of my biggest interests for years, and the fact that I was *not* enjoying it just made me even more sad. Then there was a shitshow going on with the NL situation and more. If not for the fact that I visited my partners who also wanted to watch it with me I might not even have bothered watching the final, it was that exhausting mentally. I'm so glad ESC is over for this year, and unless a lot change I don't know if I can keep watching it. Right now there's no part of me that wants to watch ESC itself. I am too pissed at EBU and exhausted by the drama that went down. But at the same time sad, for not being able to find joy in what I usually love.

[@rupertschwarz1176]

After a week has past I must say, that beside all that shitstorm: songwise 2024 was maybe the best year ever. And the performances had been incredible good.

[@henriikkak2091]

Sadly, they were overshadowed by everything else.

[@labradoriteatheart]

Only Israel' song, performance and choreography was good!

[@Coops1985]

@@labradoriteatheart a lot of songs were good

[@Xeno_fqxb]

@@labradoriteatheart not even pretending

[@rupertschwarz1176]

@@labradoriteatheart I would say this is one of the songs I cannot repeat and it is already forgotton.

[@ar50000]

People, who have never watched Eurovision, boasting on UK radio that they voted specifically for one country.

[@matchalatte42]

Is this really the kind of people the EBU wants to attract I wonder? Or do they not care who gives them money as long as they get money? :/

[@didaididai207]

yep, i think the ad campaign spread to the daily mail too - i don't read it ofc but i checked afterwards and they were stanning eden, lots of positive articles + interviews. the daily mail is not usually a paper that likes esc

[@huaiwei]

And what makes you think all those who tried to tactically vote against that specific country are true Eurovision fans? Like as if you even need "advertising" to hate on them?

[@kirsh2036]

In Finland all the vocal alt-right & conservative Christian politicians posted massive pro-Isr recommendations to vote. The most popular explanations were: 1) fck the lefties, 2) fck the woke 3) poor Isr. "I've never watched ESC, but now I MUST vote." It was massive campaign. CONGRATS to Nemo, Baby Lasagna, Jerry Hall & Alyona Alyona, Slimane, Bambie Thug, Angelina Mango, Ladaniva, Marcus & Martinus & Iolanda. And Joost!

[@ar50000]

@@didaididai207 Yes, they would normally be saying that the ESC is an outrageous waste of hard-working taxpayers' money, by Jove, and to scrap the BBC licence.

[@johnwatson9879]

Gabe diserves a honorary medal for the work he did this season

[@triola3983]

Yes, the ha mas propaganda ministry is ready to reward him for his excellent work in the Eurovision community. If he keeps working like that, he might share the biggest prize one day with Al Jazeera.

[@oscaralvarenga4391]

@@triola3983a Zionist recurring to the “victim” card? Groundbreaking.

[@PanditaGamerHD]

@@triola3983 Well he spoke facts, what are we gonna do. Israel is already known for lying everywhere they appear.

[@kate804]

@triola3983 - gaslight, gatekeep, broadcast. We know what *your* broadcaster, government, police and military are doing well enough!

[@triola3983]

@@kate804 lmao cry more

[@Mrssilviasmff]

I really hope RTP (Portugal) doesn’t let this shit go. We celebrated the 50th anniversary of a revolution that took us out of a fascist government (that lasted 40 years) and gave freedom of speech just 3 weeks prior the shit show ESC was. If everyone was already on edge over the humanitarian problems, when you add the bending of rules and reality to accommodate a certain discourse, this year of all years, I really hope they give EBU hell honestly. Edit: like some commenters said bellow, it’s was a dictatorship. Sorry for the miscommunication. Unless you’re Portuguese, you probably wouldn’t figure that out. But since my comment is about freedom of speech, humanitarian problems and distortion of information, my point stands the same.

[@IvyroseGullwhacker]

Congratulations on your 50th anniversary of independence from fascism, and your newly affirmed right to free speech. Hope they give the EBU hell, too!

[@murderoustendencies]

So let me get this straight. You are celebrating free speech in Portugal, and by that you are complaining that a young woman was not permitted to celebrate a totalitarian, segregationist government with a genocidal founding principle that shuts down free speech, murders homosexuals and enforces segregation, while encouraging the isolation of a democracy and the punishment of an innocent individual over it...?

[@skurinski]

lol we never had fascism in Portugal

[@biafreitas5666]

@@skurinski /s... right???

[@Mrssilviasmff]

Ok everyone, you’re right. Yes I didn’t explain myself well: it was a dictatorship. Our dictator was inspired by fascist regimens BUT the politics weren’t heavily race oriented. I guess this is important in the sense, even during that, Portugal was an escape route for Jews in WW2. Is that ok?

[@sickofcc6764]

As an aussie, at first I was devastated that Australia didn't qualify for the final. Now I'm glad they missed out on this garbage fire as much as they could have.

[@vivianh28]

so many people have spoken out against how toxic the backstage environment is, and not just this year; S10 has recently made a statement regarding how stressful esc was for her. what gets me worried about it is this is what we see from the adult version... but what about JUNIOR eurovision? these are kids we're talking about - it breaks my heart to think about how they could be mistreated. i just hope the ebu gets all their shit together, starting with firing martin österdahl 😊

[@CanonessEllinor]

Well, there is a reason the nordic countries (who started the damn thing) all withdrew from Junior Eurovision almost two decades ago.

[@SergioPitarch]

I have an idea: If you can't handle stress, don't participate in things like Eurovision 🤷🏻 If you do, don't complain.

[@xWood4000]

​@@SergioPitarchThere is stress and there is workplace bullying that's mismanaged

[@killwize]

@@xWood4000 YA poor Joost!

[@cameronclarkhull]

I wouldn't be surprised if the netherlands withdraws. Hope other countries follow suit if the ebu don't change their ways

[@drazenbicanic3590]

Throughout history, many countries have withdrawn from the competition. A significant number of Eastern/Southeastern European countries are not there because they know that they do not have equal treatment.

[@jwgrinch]

As an American viewer I really hope many countries follow suit and they have to cancel or let someone else run the show.

[@DylanNes]

Hot take from a Dutch fan: a lot of this started when Russia got banned. If you ban one country because of a political situation, you've made the entire contest political and now everyone who doesn't like another country wants to see them banned or disqualified too. "United by music". Right.

[@huaiwei]

So shall we also ban every country that has ever been involved in conflict, even if they are the ones being attacked and invaded?

[@Covid-bv4hp]

@@huaiwei Yes we should ban participants that have their song denied twice for political reasons to the point where a political leader of that country decided to step in. Also you got the last part wrong, Ukraine still participates. It's only Russia thats been banned. Also Liverpool are a shitshow, you choose to support the worst club in England and then you decide to spit out terrible political opinions. Im very lucky I dont know you in real life

[@k.j.hulander2204]

Russia was banned for not having free public service media. That is the actual technical reason.

[@DylanNes]

@@k.j.hulander2204 From the Guardian, shortly after Russia invaded Ukraine: "The Eurovision chief has said Russia’s ongoing ban from the international song contest has been hard but the event should stand for “the basic and ultimate values of democracy”." The EBU is not politically neutral if they deem themselves the arbiters of democracy and ban countries for going against their political values.

[@k.j.hulander2204]

@@DylanNes the EBU here refers to Russia’s lack of democracy in the sense of free public service media. That is the basis for its exclusion. Israel for all intents and purposes is a sovereign state that is defending itself against aggressors. Almost all countries in Europe have come out in Israel’s support on that issue. Everything else is just feelings at this point. Maybe if Israel are convicted of genocide things may change. But upset fans and artists are getting ahead of themselves.

[@Taylor-oq3gf]

as a neurodivergent person, if youre doing something that has been communicated to not do to me, you are asking me to snap at you.

[@demi3115]

since when is joost neurodivergent though. he has ptsd, that's something different.

[@Roy-nm4nq]

​@@demi3115 people can have ptsd and autism LMAOOO

[@totallynottomfulp]

@@Roy-nm4nqjoost has autism?😭 lmao what

[@jesuiskatie_]

I personally haven't seen anything that suggests he's autistic but he has at least one song (life story) where he talks about having bpd as well; both ptsd and bpd could be considered as being neurodivergent, there's not a clear consensus on this yet but it's not an uncommon 'opinion' in the academic world either.

[@zagorskaewelina]

I have autism and adhd and have been misdiagnosed as bpd in the past. Most people wouldn't consider me autistic, the presentation of autism in adults with average and above average inteligence, especially those with coexisting adhd is far from the stereotype of an autistic person. New reasearch sugests that the symptoms associated with bpd very ofter occur in adhd-ers who developed destructive coping mechanisms.

[@ElfenLied987]

Absolutly brillant video. EBU is rotten to the core. They can join the IBA, FIFA and the IOC. Money has destroyed them all...

[@DenisHavlikVienna]

In my opinion, there is exactly one course of action that EBU can do now to keep the Netherlands in the context and more generally to wash itself from all this dirt: 1) Fire Martin Österdahl and everyone else who had anything to say in this year's catastrophic EBU performance. 2) Publicly apologize to Netherlands, Ireland, Portugal... and to all the artists who were mishandled by them. 3) Publicly apologise to Joost Klein and invite him to open next year's contest with Europapa song. 4) Drop Moroccanoil as general sponsor and clearly state that EBU will not let the sponsors dictate their actions in the future. Anything less than this would be a sign that they don't recognise their responsibility for this year's mess

[@pyridonfaltis9761]

Do you even need any more signs to prove that EBU doesn't recognise its responsibility? I think it's self-evident at this point. I doubt any of those four things will happen, and ESC 2025 will just go on, with MÖ in the lead, nothing apologized for, and with Moroccanoil as sponsor, and without NL participating. I have no doubt EBU will just shrug another country (and possibly more?) leaving ESC off.

[@Eth1994]

Iirc, Moroccanoil's sponsorship deal is supposed to last until this year.

[@verenabecker2724]

Honestly, that sounds very reasonable given the information in this video and from other sources. Given the EBU's actions, they probably won't see it that way though. It's fucking depressing.

[@lafabias1876]

Amazing comment, I'd like it a 100 times if I could. All of this. And as for the sponsor - they should never again have one general sponsor but many smaller ones, that's the only way to prevent one corporation (*and the government of their country*) from imposing their agenda and blackmailing. It's actualy a completely preposterous idea for an international competition to sign a multi-year contract with a general sponsor from one of the participating countries (especially one known for unstable and unsafe internal situation, and a strong govermnent meddling in all aspects of life). One really doesn't need to be a genius to imagine that something like this could easily lead to a disaster, which we have all witnessed this season. @denishavlikvienna

[@brento2750]

Completely agree!

[@auxerae]

cornald in the thumbnail i am cackling

[@macalauresmuse]

Didn't he call Osterdahl 'wonder boy' or something like that. It's funny but it's really not funny if you know what I mean?

[@auxerae]

​@@macalauresmuse honestly no clue. haven't really involved myself in the festival since 2021 because of israels involvement and i also boycotted this year. if that's true then that's tragically ironic

[@-_YouMayFind_-]

Yes he did at the show after he got booed​@@macalauresmuse

[@JaneFokster]

@@macalauresmuse Yes, very sarcastically while Osterdahl was being booed.

[@LiovaElise]

@@macalauresmuse Salty Cornald was a treat

[@bingbong6066]

Not protecting creative people that are quite often neurodivergent and traumatized. Is a thing we should really look into. Cancelling people for single misstakes where there is no pattern in that behavior is simply a step too far.

[@lulumoon3636]

Completely agree. I'm a neurodivergent creative person myself & I think we definitely need to be more vigilant about protecting those us

[@cl8804]

completely agree. i am also a BOT beep boop

[@AREA-jp8vb]

It goes beyond Joost, they allowed all of the artists and press to get bullied by one countries delegation. The delegation clearly wanted Joost banned and they found a way to do it. And if they would’ve let what happened with Joost slide they would’ve tried to find another way to get him out.

[@RichD1]

I agree but is this related to anything about this video or are you a bot

[@bingbong6066]

Why would I be a bot lmao.

[@nikolaivandenhoek4753]

Hear Hear! Don't stop speaking out before the EBU becomes another Fifa

[@ElfenLied987]

too late for that 😞

[@Xeorboom]

wait, is it "hear, hear!" or "here, here!"? either would work

[@DataLal]

@@Xeorboom It's "hear, hear!" but yeah the other option could work if you were trying to alert someone to your location.

[@Hgames_RBLX]

@@XeorboomIt is “Hear, hear”, but if you’re in the House of Commons, then it’s “Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer”

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

Or Olympics

[@Paturages]

long live Eurovision, fuck the EBU

[@williamdfr1715]

Other way around I'm afraid, Eurovision is the EBU's product and they can do what they like with it

[@anabltc]

@@williamdfr1715 but EBU is just an organisation, while Eurovision has a huge brand value and it's been so for decades. It would be really stupid to waste that

[@williamdfr1715]

@@anabltc I understand, but again technically speaking the brand Eurovision is very different to the Song Contest and would survive without it. Anyhow, it's TV, a medium of the past. Don't know what country you are in, but think of department stores. Did we ever think that Woolworths, Debenhams, Hertie, V&D would not be there ? Brands aren't eternal

[@Xeno_fqxb]

@@williamdfr1715 i don't see any benefits messing up esc like that, i'd say it still sponsor money that gave them no choice.

[@haleighbearofficial]

I also want to mention all the hate that Silvester got by everyone because of his statement. Every single post that was mentioned about him since mentioned how he " had only said this because he wanted a better result." And "he got a taste of his own medicine" but if he wanted a better result, then WHY DID HE SAY HE WISHED IT ENDED AT THE SEMIS??????? So many artists suffered this year. None of them deserved this.... I hope there are some DRASTIC changes to the contest so that it can live on....

[@Eth1994]

Gåte got that treatment too. 🙁

[@murderoustendencies]

I agree. The army should have been sent to remove all the "protesters" that were threatening security everywhere. And the jeering public should've been removed from the semi-finals onward. Sylvester shouldn't have to have paid for their virtue signalling, nor any of the other contestants who were drawn into the drama by the handful of jerks who couldn't behave like adults.

[@haleighbearofficial]

@@murderoustendencies that's right.

[@in_wino_veritas]

He came 10th with the public, so these losers who're accusing him of being a cry baby and bitter about his results probably don't even know his actual placements. Also, this person's logic is lacking because if he is bitter about his results, then why does he wish to have stayed in the semi? But there's many trolls and bots out there. No, he just felt uncomfortable with getting on stage after Israel, with boos still audible before he entered it.

[@NewStarConstellation]

@@murderoustendencies The army? Man, how glad I am that you are not in charge....

[@ribbitrally]

you standing up against an organization like this is iconic actually and u deserve all the support ure getting!!! insanely good job, both of u!! ❤️

[@zosig23]

I got Eurovision tickets as my 18th birthday present, it was my biggest dream to go since I was a child and I finnaly managed to go for the very first time- Dont know if I ruined it permanently for myself, but I dont exactly regret my sf1 afternoon and sf2 afternoon tickets either. Im a weird limbo of disgusted by the ebu but also so enamored by the effort put in by the artists- Seeing Estonia live right by the barrier while standing legit healed me- But other stuff during sf2 were definitely well.. There was booing, there was screaming, arguable I only heard the commotion as I was at the very front of the crowd, but as I read in the news shit went down behind me, but man was it uh.. wild..? There was definitely an air of nervousness during that day compared to sf1 and although its not super related- I will never forget walking out of the arena after sf2 alone and trying to meet my mom who was shopping in the emporia mall while I was inside- And hearing the mall evacuation alarm before I could even approach the building. I hate that my mind immediately jumped to the worst possiible case scenario that I might never see her again. People shouldn't feel like this during Eurovision, people should never have to feel like this anywhere.

[@pineapplecake7140]

You are undoubtedly the best person around for this job: summarising 10th of May, the doomsday blue that Bambie warned us about

[@erinnadia0409]

I just hope Nemo is okay and can still enjoy and celebrate their win! It's so deserved, the artists were incredible this year and they deserve the most support ❤

[@mysticgirl916]

Nemo's been doing press in the UK right now, including an appearance on "The One Show". The song debuted at #18 on the UK singles chart

[@925263]

Nah, their song AND singing were both bad. They simply cannot do the high notes they kept forcing., They obviously didn't deserve the treatment they got, but they didn't deserve to win, either.

[@erinnadia0409]

@@925263 do we have the same hearing? Because those operatic notes are incredible and I could never! 😅 every time I attempted to sing them my voice cracks 🥲🤣

[@verenabecker2724]

​@@925263I am curious as to what your qualifications are to make that statement so confidently. I was watching the contest with a friend who's a professional musician and music educator, and the way she evaluated Nemo's performance is, um... extremely different from your take.

[@mitchystuff]

@@925263 I don't know what version you heard, but the one I heard was really good. They're an amazing singer and dancer, and they did hit the notes. Their performance was great! Also, the song is an absolute banger, I listened to it before the contest began and I'm still listening to it almost daily!

[@Ostralucia]

the only thing good that came out from 2024 Eurovision is people discovering so many new good songs and artists tbh worst thing that spawned was Eurovision twitter becoming stan twitter tho

[@TheFiryDev]

ESC 2024 was such a good year, but only for the songs

[@Ostralucia]

@@TheFiryDev yes

[@TheFiryDev]

@@Ostralucia Very disappointing to see that one of the strongest eurovision was also the worst in backstages

[@Ostralucia]

@@TheFiryDev which one?

[@TheFiryDev]

@@Ostralucia This year

[@LadyStardust97]

More excited for this video than I was for the grand final

[@henriikkak2091]

The thing I felt most uneasy and queasy about watching the events unfold was that some of the artists were really pushed to the edge. You could see it from their faces. This is unforgivable. I hope there are consequences such as national broadcasters filing formal complaints to the EBU.

[@painpapadopoulos8120]

Whatever get lost.

[@ComedyPlastic]

We need "I survived 10 May" merch.

[@1234smileface]

Where were the boos when Azerbaijan performed after they ethnically cleansed Armenians in 2020 and again in 2023??????

[@babytronsson]

Exactly

[@roshanfey]

no jews, no news!

[@willpalmer615]

Whataboutery. Maybe they should have been booed. But we're not talking about them right now.

[@roshanfey]

@@willpalmer615 you're not talking about them ever lol

[@strawberrykun6136]

​@@willpalmer615why not? It seems like you couldn't care less about 'genocide' unless Jews are involved

[@MorkyMuffin]

They make a big deal about Eurovision not being political. Well, having Israel participating was in itself a political statement, so...

[@henriikkak2091]

Yes, it was. As was trying to censor e.g. the French artist's message about love and peace.

[@triola3983]

Israel has been competing for half a century. Excluding it would be the political decision.

[@tsani-bn2bk]

How tf is it a political statement? I guess the participation of all the other nations was too?

[@Bobogdan258]

@@tsani-bn2bk Literally yes. The participation of Russia would've been political too.

[@_ana777_]

Rusia would have been political​@@tsani-bn2bk

[@SarahMargaretMullen]

I went to Eurovision this year, and it was my third competition. It is telling that my experience was very similar to yours. I was at Euroclub on Tuesday night and there was a sense of unease. The fans from a certain country were in Bambies face standing with their flags in a confrontational way. Irish fans could not get to them. That was my first and last time going to Euroclub. As the week went on, the sense of unease grew from the Thursday, security everywhere. I was relieved to leave Malmo and stay in Copenhagen. This year I actually don't have PED. I'm also thinking I will give it a skip next year unless there is a huge change within the EBU. After the event I've heard so many stories of fans getting abuse, as Ireland is known as a pro 🍉 country. I didn't feel comfortable wearing Eurovision merch or my countries colours. The Irish media has also been full of hate. So much homophobic comments aimed at fans at the contest, and transphobic/religious slurs aimed at Bambie. Eurovision is supposed to be fun, where you mingle with other fans from different countries. It wasn't that this year unfortunately. Not forgetting Joost Klein, people not being able to bring in a non binary flag, etc. I'm actually emotionally exhausted. And may I add, that countries delegation/ journalists were harassing artists at pre parties. This should have been nipped in the bud long before the actual competition

[@ElfenLied987]

THe hate on Bambie's social media pages is shocking and they seem to stem from one country/religious group. Truely shocking. bambie quote "love will always defeat hate"

[@SarahMargaretMullen]

@@ElfenLied987 yes it's coming from that group, plus the far right in Ireland. I met Bambie briefly over in Malmo and they seem very humble and quietly spoken, to see them getting this much hate is awful

[@Olivier-GM]

About flags: even the european flag was forbiden. I saw in the news tonight (Arte TV) there will be an official complain from the EU MPs (except far right parties) to the EBU.

[@hannah74863]

You’re all haters look in the mirror. Jealous of Israel much?

[@SarahMargaretMullen]

@@hannah74863 this is a very juvenile response to what I've just written.

[@rehellinen23]

The fact that someone literally needed to sneak in a pride flag tells a lot.

[@pyridonfaltis9761]

The weirdest thing is, that rainbow flags were to be allowed, just not any of the other pride flags. I mean, literally, why?

[@fygfyg7242]

​@@pyridonfaltis9761 Because they lost control over the whole situation. They also managed to ban EUROPEAN flag in EUROPEAN contest 😂 Like, if they had things under control, someone would have realized that it's just such an absurd idea (same with nonbinary flag when there were nonbinary contestants)

[@mr.netflix9149]

​@@pyridonfaltis9761 Because they were worried about someone sneaking in symbolism. There are a lot of pride flags, so they might not have been able to check which were real and which carried some political weight.

[@in_wino_veritas]

Maybe Israel complained about Pride Flags and nonbinary Flags, and the EBU somehow listened. They're commentators also made derogatory comments about Bambie and Nemo, so that's quite possible.

[@in_wino_veritas]

Maybe Israel complained about Pride Flags and nonbinary Flags, and the EBU somehow listened. They're commentators also made derogatory comments about Bambie and Nemo, so that's quite possible.

[@CM28277]

Gabe: Makes video about the most cursed Eurovision. Eurovision 2024: I'm about to destroy this man's career.

[@jffrancisco_]

hum why?

[@pyridonfaltis9761]

@@jffrancisco_ I think EBU does not look kindly towards the whistleblowers, and Gabe's ability to do his work depends largely on the goodwill of EBU.

[@ZakhadWOW]

@@pyridonfaltis9761 actually it is the host broadcaster who has a lot more direct impact on accreditation.. if anyone at EBU opens there mouth ONE LITTLE BIT, they will wish they had never been born,.

[@CM28277]

​@@jffrancisco_"I'm about to destroy this man's career" is a meme format. Nothing as serious as all other replies are saying. I simply meant his original cursed video was outdone by all the things that happened in 2024 ESC.

[@allterraindummy]

@@jffrancisco_ This channel published a video 6 months ago with a theoretical 'worst case' Eurovision. And then the actual cursed Eurovision happened.

[@Ice62004]

Can we note that Joost was excluded but Israel was not. The irony...

[@Ice62004]

@@REL513 For what?

[@thatsleepybirb]

exactly. we got disqualified for doing something against harassment, and israel didn’t get disqualified for harassment????

[@HaraldSeiwert]

So Cornald Maas from the Dutch delegation had indeed the right words to them when he said "F*** the EBU"

[@CanelaAguila]

He actually said "I would almost say 'fuck the ebu', and hey, looks like I just did"

[@ItsJustValHere]

@@CanelaAguilaDaamn lmao

[@daszkiewicz_borisovicz]

Gabe, thank you for being vocal about this chaos. I hope you get well soon.

[@paperplain]

What a video! Its everything that needed to be said, can this go viral please? #justiceforjoost

[@katerynapikaros1092]

Martin Osterdal is good to go

[@Sidges]

Great work putting all of the information in one neat video! Having to sift through posts, many of which were inaccurate, on the day of it all happening was hectic to say the least.

[@jwgrinch]

Joost Klein needs to sue the EBU and Swedish police and state his damages as to however much ABBA has earned since their Eurovision win.

[@kate-t3]

I love ESC and it's such a pity that this year, when we had so many good songs - finally! - the contest was marred because of all these bad decisions made by the EBU leadership. Thank you so much for enlightening us on every detail about the incidents because, where I come from, Greece, we only got a fraction of the story and the TV channels kept blaming Marina Satti for "yawning" during the press conference and they never mentioned the harrassment she went through all week long. On the contrary, we were told that she verbally abused an Israeli - that's what he said and the Greek media gave credit to him and not to our singer - allegedly without being provoked and the Israeli said he was just filming around but didn't target her. It was a lie, obviously. Harrassment continues in Marina Satti's Instagram account from Israeli - real people or bots - and they also harrass fans, I'm one of them. Those people are ridiculous.

[@in_wino_veritas]

Yawning at the press conference? Wasn't she still recovering from a cold or something? And still a stellar performance, how many of these TV people would still show up if they were still recovering? And that they're putting more faith in an Israeli delegation member, who alleged that she harassed them (for which there is no evidence), than into their own singer? Yikes.

[@almaberge3692]

I don't have eurovision depression this year, I have eurovision relief

[@irverrette]

As an Argentinian, I am deeply irritated, frustrated, and concerned by Israel's harmful involvement and intentions in Eurovision, the suffering experienced by so many people there, regardless of their gender, sexual orientation, race, or nationality at their hands... It's truly horrible. Have we really gone this far? This seems out of those conspiratorial movies. The only difference is that this is real, and it's happening right now. I'm relieved that, at least, this is over. I'm also pleased that the next Eurovision will be hosted in such a neutral country as Switzerland. I'm already starting to save money so I can make the effort to go there and see my very first Eurovision, hoping to see and support amazing artists such as Joost, Nemo, and Thug (But mostly Joost, he deserves the world, I believe that if I could choose a different career, I would like to have his, and spread the same message he's spreading, thanks Joost

[@Mozzarella-and-Tomato]

Well said, and good to hear that you might be pursuing journalism! We need more people exposing real life conspiracies and corruption! You're already contributing with this comment:)

[@EdwardConnors]

Well, at least no one died...

[@JeSuisRene]

0:04 Amazing how 1969, 1977 nor 1991 are no longer the most likely answers to this statement any more.

[@Z_E_B_O]

This was the best Eurovision in terms of songs and the absolute worst in how they handled it.

[@thrillyria]

I did not watch the show this year. As didn't a lot of people in Finland. The viewer amount during the live show was almost half of what it's usually been. I did follow the news and stories though. And it felt so unbelievable. I even sent our representative a message through social media asking him not to perform. That's how anxious I got during the day. 😅

[@painpapadopoulos8120]

This was the most successful eurovision in terms of viership.

[@thrillyria]

@@painpapadopoulos8120 not in my country as I explained in my comment.

[@istarris]

Never getting over those videos of Eden Golan butchering languages asking people to vote for her 😭😭

[@ophiolatrix]

What a disaster. The EBU said they didnt want the contest to fall into disrepute, but with them allowing Israel to compete and giving KAN special protection it became a self-fulfilling prophecy. Happy for Nemo's victory and Baby Lasagna's televote victory (especially as a nonbinary viewer!), but the EBU's actions before, during, and after Eurovision this year have been nothing short of shameful. Until/unless more information comes out and we have conclusive proof that he was in the wrong, I will continue to support Joost and maintain his innocence. As someone with social anxiety and autism I can understand the kind of stress he must've been under, and I was upset to hear about his disqualification as like with many fans, he was one of my favorites this year. I hope the EBU gets their act together and takes the appropriate steps to clean this mess up, but unfortunately I'm not optimistic. Free Palestine, fire Martin Osterdahl, justice for Joost, Bambie, and all the other contestants who got screwed over. Hallelujah, holy shit, where's the tylenol.

[@clairecraig3599]

Thank you so much for your commentary here. I was there and agree with everything you have said.

[@SlendyMusicProductionsSMP]

I am an American, and wow to think Europe has such a mess over some musical performances is insane. I thought America was suppose to be the shit storm. It seems everyone everywhere is chaotic.

[@IndonesischeBapao]

This year was a fever dream, uhm I mean fever nightmare

[@myeclecticself]

Great reporting! I’m still shocked at how bad the EBUs responses this week have been.

[@sappho4828]

i don't actually have anything to say that you didn't already talk about (and better than i can have) but this was a fantastic video and thank you for making it

[@joshvasquez3065]

KAN had also filmed Kärijä with Eden Golan as they were seen dancing together and they had posted it without his permission since he didn't know he was being filmed and took 8 hrs for them to respond and remove the video, I believe this also contributed to him withdrawing as the Finnish representative, but I hate that KAN is saying they were being harassed when they harassed and filmed representatives and delegations without consent which is illegal in Sweden and SVT should've sent a statement and I do believe Netherlands should be automatic qualifier as an apology since they discredited Joost for false accusations and KAN commentator laughing that he was disqualified, I believe Israel was able to stay since Moroccanoil (An Israeli company) sponsors the contest. Hope Switzerland 2025 will be better, but I believe it will be different if they want Nemo to perform.

[@skyefab]

🍿

[@MyCamilla1989]

I wonder how Moroccan Oil's (an Israeli Cosmetics Company) involvement affected EBU's decision on the Netherlands' disqualification.

[@tigaliyt]

@@REL513 I'm pretty sure they have better things to do since your country begun colonizing them, anyway.

[@martinphillips3432]

@@tigaliyt your comment here doesn’t make sense.

[@tigaliyt]

@@martinphillips3432 Did you notice I replied to someone whose comment was deleted?

[@thatsleepybirb]

@@tigaliytwhat was the original comment?

[@tigaliyt]

@@thatsleepybirb iirc some whataboutism about how Gaza is soooo islamist they’d never participate in something so gay anyway

[@faridehrahnavard-q4m]

This year was chaotic, the Israel situation during Eurovision, Joost being disqualified, toxicity and it goes on… Like why was Joost even disqualified, just because he didn’t want to be filmed? What did he even do, he was accused of some sort of assault to someone but was it true? Edit: I don’t think it was, the case has been dropped, I just hope he could return in 2025 or in a few years time.

[@abel3357]

The only thing the organization has cared about is keeping their sponsor. They don't care about the artists or the delegations.

[@lafabias1876]

That's where there must not be a general sponsor ever again - it was a MASSIVE blunder to sign with a company from a country known for unstable internal situation and a government that meddles in all spheres of life and uses every single mean to further their politics. An absolutely incredibly idiotic thing to do. As Gabe says - the moment about lyrics where EBU requested a change of lyrics to eliminate the political context (which is a ridiculously meek request) was a cue for ¡sr@el to refuse and withdraw gracefully and save themselves and EBU from further problems. But something like that would've never happened because ¡srael is at ESC exactly for that motive - to abuse it for political propaganda, and no way they'd give up on that, especially now with all what's going on, and that they can blackmail them via the general sponsor.

[@he1313]

I hope that the dutch AvroTros withdraw themselves from the competition and make a national contest instead. They should broadcast it on the same evening as the Eurovision.

[@perbengtsson8170]

Besides the uproar against Israels participation in the ESC I notice the deafening silence about Azerbaijans existence in the competition. Apparently the Gaza conflict sucks the energy out of all other area disputes and ethnic cleansing going on...

[@pleasemeowback]

I was also surprised that so many people talk about Israel and Palestine, but this is the first mention about Azerbaijan I see. Which is even more surprising since Armenia is also in the contest. Kinda weird.

[@RooiGevaar19]

Yeah, people go mad when Israel moves a chair, but when Azerbaijan proudly and openly ethnic cleansed Artsakh, then everything was fine. I'm not defending any country, but it's a fact that lots of Eurovision fans are hypocrites, along with EBU.

[@tadesubaru1383]

Finally, the video I have been dying to see. Followed the entire ordeal on twitter, it was complete madness

[@MajinGatomon]

For me, ESC died that year. It was difficult when they threw russia out and... well... gave the win to Ukraine. Before that year political neutrality was always important and a reason I like the ESC very much. It just shows, that every musician is the same worldwide, they want to make good music. But when it started to get political... it got difficult. Israel got special rights, even on the TV it was not hard to hear othes boo over them. Still, we noticed with the missing number something was stupid. When we searched for it, the statement regarding the disqualification just seem stupid to me by then as well. But nothing will happen Some people will lose their jobs, sure, but the political guidelines will stay active as long as the war does not conclude by next year. So... I just quit. Another piece of peace movement destroyed for the sake of war propaganda.

[@Goosterbobohar]

Joost looked so happy when he performed I’m very sad he didn’t get to go to the finals. At least he still won

[@pasteldreamer]

as an autistic person who’s biggest special interest for a lot of the year is eurovision, the 10th and 11th felt really stressful for me, for many autistic people our special interests are such important parts of our lives, they become part of our identity, autistic people are what they love. eurovision means so much to me. i was absolutely terrified at the prospect of an israeli win, both as someone who has been heavily invested in the fight for palestinian freedom and because to me an israeli win would spell the death of the contest for me for the foreseeable future, not just because i couldnt even conceive how it could continue as is but because i could not in good conscious continue to support what feels like rolling out a red carpet and massive platform for a genocidal regime to blast its tone deaf blatant propaganda to the rest of the world. i struggle with anxiety issues and the level of panic and dread i felt for hours watching the grand final right up till israel got its votes was absolutely crushing. i could barely drink from a cup i was shaking so much. when i heard israels points and realised they didn’t have enough to win i literally leapt out my seat screaming ‘YESS!!!’. at this point im still questioning whether to continue supporting the contest, if they make the necessary changes then probably, otherwise I don’t know if I can, not just ethically but because despite the love I have of eurovision being like the force of a thousand suns, I can’t deal with another eurovision like this. I felt such an unhealthy level of anger, dread, anxiety, frustration and disappointment leading up to the final and no silly gay song competition is worth that no matter how beloved. i feel so much anger and frustration towards the west’s handling of israel with kiddy gloves and the EBU allowing their delegation to harass and abuse people while so rapidly and harshly disqualifying Joost, I just felt so livid. Eurovision this year really felt like a microcosm of what feels like a growing schism between the west and israel, and the EBU had to feel the anger Europeans feel about our governments and organisations continuously not giving a fuck and letting israel do whatever it wants

[@aoifegallagher116]

Summed up perfectly 👏 I really hope EBU watch this video a massive reality check is needed. Hopefully they make the necessary changes that a year like this never happens again.

[@P4perfrog2591]

On the day of joost disqualification, we had so many bars and radio stadios just playing europapa on loop

[@oneextra8659]

This is yet one more disastrous event for 2024, it just can't stop coming one after another.

[@sjelos]

Gabe, you have helped us SO MUCH in waddling through that entire chaos. For that, you have my immense gratitude. This video was stressful, with step by step PTSD of the whole thing. Thank you. Hopefully, with the number of complaints rising (especially the recent one by RTVSLO) you will soon be able to make a much brighter recap of even more recent events.

[@CyberSystemOverload]

A video about a cheesey song contest is "stressful"?

[@azusitajr5501]

The institution being anti lgbt? no non binary rights?? full support to israel? nothing new omg thanks for this covering i seriously had no idea of all of this

[@MeHasCookie]

I actually cried multiple times over the whole ordeal with Joost :(

[@Axolpox]

Israel delegation has been very disrespectful throughout the entire event...

[@TheoriginalMach2000]

The EBU really needs a big ass change - Let's just hope next year will be a great year... Joost is profiting from his DQ big time tho. The number 1 Eurovision artist since the finale.

[@FunnyStuffFailsPranks]

They removed his pictures on socal like he never existed . But on their KZbin channel left his videos. To earn money out of him. How low can you go😫😫😫

[@TheoriginalMach2000]

@@FunnyStuffFailsPranks same with Tiktok. All his videos are still there. Obviously so as they dwarf all other videos in the number of views

[@FunnyStuffFailsPranks]

@@TheoriginalMach2000 so sad…

[@AP-hr3qm]

As an aside, I ask myself why a unique experience that many of the artists have been working towards for years or decades (worst case for Joost Klein!) is being so massively destroyed ?! Each of them knows that all of their performances have been impaired, manipulated or even completely wiped out by this poisoned atmosphere and that the result is no longer genuine. It is also not a pleasant experience for the winner to know that their own victory came about _in this way_ instead of the possibility of an honest competition. Thanks for telling us, Gabe. I'm sorry you and all of you had to go through that. Originally ESC was never supposed to be like that, you guys would've deserved a wonderful time.

[@saraa7841]

Is there any possible to look into the EBU rules to find out if the Israeli delegation did something wrong.. it’s so weird that it’s said they didn’t but Joost did and Nemo had to hide the flag (basically breaking rules, but nothing happened .. could be because it already was the final but to Joost that’s kinda mean, no hate to Nemo, just to EBU!) and that was wrong (while they did use that online, after they had won)…. I want to see the rules.

[@thingybob4375]

Thank you Gabe. This could have so easily been avoided. The Belarus exclusion in 2021 happened after two songs were rejected for overtly political lyrics. Exactly the same happened with Israel but the EBU shamelessly bowed to government intervention, How much is that to do with the Israeli sponsors, Moroccan Oil? I have watched Eurovision since 1969, yes I'm old, but this was incredibly stressful. The trophy was broken, Eurovision was broken. The EBU needs a re-think. Martin Osterdahl - perhaps you are good to go

[@mo4848]

The fact that you conflate the lyrics of the belarussian song with the Israeli song is shocking. Get a grip.

[@lafabias1876]

​@@mo4848Both lyrics were political, while the official eSC policy is not to allow politics at the contest. Both should've been excluded on the same grounds, which would've happen had EBU not been in the chokehold of a general sponsor from Isreal. It's not hard to be honest to admit to the inconsistency due to a horrible cobflict of interests EBU had been stupid enough to walk into when they signed with Moroccanoil and lost all possibility of integrity. The obvious thing is that you're not willing to be honest, but that's an option too, I guess.

[@shlomomarkman6374]

That's a total mis-understanding of the rules. The rules say that an approved act has to be submitted before a certain deadline (as I remember March 20th). There is no limit to the amount of entries submitted before that. There is frequently a pre-submission stage in which a Broadcaster queries if a certain entry will get approved if submitted officially, this procedure is more relevant to other countries as any entry to San-Remo or Melodiefestivalen needs to be valid by the EBU rules because they don't want a situation it wins but can't be performed in the ESC. Israel itself also submitted multiple entries in it's selection process before 2010.

[@Coops1985]

Belarus was given another chance at giving in a song, but missed the deadline without delivering.

[@VoyageOne1]

It was like watching a runaway train speeding towards a cliff.

[@sebastiaoalmeida7796]

Also, the video shared on Twitter by the israeli broadcaster themselves mocking and harassing Joost trying to film him after the missed rehearsal added a lot of fuel to the fire and contributed to people thinking they were behind the disqualification. And, at least indirectly, they probably were.

[@WerkstukViva]

Ik denk het ook. "Grappig" ook dat juist Geert "Nederland eerst" Wilders precies datzelfde Israël aanbidt zoals een puberjongetje opkijkt tegen Messi.

[@eurotwink9740]

This was the first Eurovision I attended in person after years of dreaming about it from living on the other side of the world, and honestly I feel so sad. While I think it was absolutely the right thing to do, I never thought the EBU would actually ban Israel. They are a collective of public broadcasters responsible to the interests of their governments, who rely on Israel as a foothold in the Middle East. So I thought maybe by coming, now that the opportunity finally arose, we could at least celebrate the core values of the contest and in doing so, project a glimmer of light in times of growing darkness, so to speak. Maybe this was naive to begin with. This was one of the best travel experiences of my life, and that came down to the amazing community around this contest, artists and fans alike. Yet this whole thing was cast over a backdrop of hypocrisy and quasi-authoritarian decisions from the EBU that I think made a complete mockery of the contest’s spirit, and looking back now that I’ve had time to process all the shitfuckery that went on that week, I can’t help but feel…dirty, for having given my money to help orchestrate this whole thing, and for celebrating and documenting it all for my friends to see on social media, pretending to champion peace and unity. It feels like I’ve made just as much as much a hypocrite of myself for partaking, and whenever I think about it I just get disgusted and angry. It brings me immense pain to say this, as someone who has loved this contest obsessively since I was a child; but if we don’t see immense changes over the next 12 months-which frankly, in the current climate, I don’t think are a given-I don’t know if I can continue supporting this next year. And that really, really sucks.

[@mo4848]

Could you elaborate on the quasi-authoritarian decisions?

[@hafizh__iskandar]

2024: The disappointing year of ESC

[@dolsimon]

I feel like this is the video I've been looking for. This video clearly states the bad vibes that were around the eurovision song festival perfectly. It also was very clear about the Joost klein Controvercy, and other controversies that took place during the event. This all from an perspective of someone who was actually in the middle of it all. I really appreciate you making this video, and how clear and in depth this video actually was! As a dutchy a video like this is exactly what I was looking for about the whole situation! Thanks for making this video, and best of luck!! ❤

[@zwelfbungt]

Hey Gabe, thanks for the video! When it comes to the israeli participation in the future, I think that many people make it too easy. I'm from Germany and I noticed that some politicans like Claudia Roth (Green Party), who is the states-employee of the federal gouvernment for culture and media (and also a Eurovision-enthusiast), called the calls for the exclusion for Israel in 2024 as a "scandal". And if you ask me, this is also the standing of the german public boardcasting consult ARD. I see a scenario where they solidarize with Israel and withdraw from the contest, if Israel is excluded. I already read a comment by a german newspaper where the booing towards the israeli performances were adressed and that NDR (or whichever boardcaster is in place next year for Germany) should see this behaviour as the perfect opportunity to withdraw from the contest, because Eurovision showed the world it's antisemitic side that can't be tolerated by a public boardcaster of Germany. (Sidenote: Most of the newspapers in Germany don't like or even hate Eurovision anyways and in this year, they had no opportunity to demand a withdrawal because of a bad placing, but as you see, they found something else.) And it would be a big risk for the EBU, if a Big 5-member would withdraw. I'm excited to see how the EBU will try to mend things in the next months.

[@youtubenutzer3071]

Die Buhrufe während des israelischen Beitrags sind für mich kein Zeichen von Antisemitismus. Es ist für mich immer wieder erstaunlich, dass jeder, der erschüttert über das brutale Vorgehen der israelischen Regierung in Gaza ist, mit dem Vorwurf des Antisemitismus in eine Ecke gedrängt wird, wo er garnicht nicht steht. Von mir aus können Netanjahu und die anderen Verantwortlichen für das unfassbare Leid der Zivilbevölkerung in Gaza den heiligen Bimbam anbeten, dann wären sie für mich genau so verachtenswert.

[@bunchoflemons]

I boycotted actually watching this year, but I still followed all the drama online and I was exhausted from that alone. And here I was in May 2023 thinking the ABBA anniversary would be what this year was remembered for.