These Family Vloggers Need to be Stopped... *8 Passengers*

[@OhJuicy]

“It’s not my job to pick up after my kids, bring them lunch, or make them happy” Then girl wtf is your job

[@r.d.whitaker5787]

Right???? If you don't love and protect your child, you are not a parent!

[@kimmyball4961]

Exactly

[@Onyx421]

Birth the kids and throw them out into the world and let them fend for themselves PS. This woman's cray PPS. I didn't spell it wrong that's how I say crazy

[@libby1737]

@@Onyx421 ikr

[@XtinaMarie1984]

I love this comment was thinking the same thing. Her job is to exploit her kid for kk he that’s all she cares about

[@jadarogers4892]

i'll keeping saying this until it happens: KZbin NEEDS TO GIVE CHILDREN AND MINORS LEGAL PROTECTION

[@Avellania]

The easiest way would be to just demonetize any videos that are primarily about the kids. Then the parents would no longer have an incentive to have the kids in all of their videos. They can still talk about their day or parenting or their home or whatever, but the kids don't need to be in the video for that.

[@kims364]

@@Avellania YES!! ALL FAMILY VLOGGING NEEDS TO STOP!!! What can we do to have KZbin stop family vlogging and protect the children!!?

[@camiasmr977]

yah instead of that they re freaking out about what kids watch on yt... instead of forbid them to be on family vlogs

[@diiissshhhaaaaa]

@@kims364 Well Family Vlogging is a good idea, but just how they vlog it is very.. ugh.

[@kims364]

@@diiissshhhaaaaa What makes you think "family vlogging is a.good idea"? In what way is it good idea to exploting children? I'm not being rude by asking so please don't think that, I'm curious on why you think that.

[@aquinn982]

5 👏 year 👏 olds 👏 cannot 👏 be 👏 responsible 👏 for 👏 feeding 👏 themselves 👏 The only lesson it’s teaching this poor girl is that she won’t be able to rely on her mother for anything. Breaks my heart to think that someday she might end up in a tough situation and not want to call her mother for help out of fear that she’ll be the one blamed for it...

[@arowace498]

Unfortunately, if she feels like she can't rely on her mother she would be right.

[@miamartinez5684]

They can with SUPERVISION. Pure narcissism from this woman. I bet she yells at her kids for eating an unhealthy lunch, or not packing their lunch, forgetting to pack it, etc, etc.

[@sophieladanyi568]

Yes!

[@itskaybe6348]

@@miamartinez5684 yes! A 5 year old should be able to pack a lunch themselves if given healthy options. Of course parents should be checking that it makes it to school but I think that people are not giving kids enough credit. I mean my 2.5 yr old can make herself a pb and j.

[@julieake3875]

@@itskaybe6348 Just because they can doesnt mean they should. Thats just lazy parenting. You brought that child into to world, do your job and provide and service your child. Lazy!

[@kayleecaca]

"my children are not allowed to live with me when they're 18" AS IF THEY WOULD WANT TO

[@alexandraemily8401]

😂😂 right! 😩

[@thepanperson215]

There 18 there still kids? So I wood wait at last too there 20 or 21 for them go

[@Water-ro8kp]

@@thepanperson215 no 18 ain’t a kid that’s teenager

[@ciaran4135]

@@thepanperson215 Even though 18 is still basically a kid, I would move out anyway coz who would want to live with those weirdos?

[@thepanperson215]

@@ciaran4135 same,I know btw

[@littlereddstar5264]

If the “family” is already saying they want the kids out at 18, something tells me they’re not getting anything other than a “bye”...

[@sonyadanailova9537]

But I doubt they will kick them out - if they keep them at home, keep them dependable on them, that means the money won't stop, assuming they are still a thing after years.

[@jamieb7581]

Jayla Ro I was about to say same thing. No kids, no revenue! She’s a horrid woman. The “Karen of all Karen’s!”

[@katiep8675]

the oldest kid has already been required to read all the law books required for the first year of law school and the mom gives her household things she doesn't want any more as birthday presents. Like a microwave for her college dorm. Like things a parent should just buy/give their children. It seems like Chad the son mentioned is treated the way he is because they don't see him as having potential to benefit them in some way or tighten their socialite standard they don't see him as going on to be a lawyer or doctor so they treat him like crap

[@Em_Elizabeth]

Or they only say they want the kids out at 18 now when they're young then don't let them leave when they're ready.

[@aarondavis9878]

I have a five year old daughter and the thought of “letting her go hungry” makes me feel sick. A five year old canNOT be responsible for remembering/forgetting her own lunch, that is absurd!!

[@Mrs.Self.Distruct]

It's absolutely nuts. I mean it's great to teach your young child to make a lunch and all that, but to make them solely responsible for it and if they forget it to let them go hungry for the day is asinine and she is what, five years old?!?

[@beckybertish7841]

Their parenting skills are so upsetting. I wonder how these bloggers were brought up. So selfish.

[@legocuber0860]

Thank you for expressing that. I’ve been responsible for making my lunch since I was about 6. Even then, my mom would “help me” ( I say help, but she would do most of it. I would just grab the containers). If I forgot my lunch, my mom would bring me a lunch, or I would buy hot lunch.

[@reneeedbauer1293]

I always made my lunch starting at 5 years old but my parents always watched me put it together and made sure I packed it before I left, as it should be.

[@Haley_Wozniak]

Even if my toddler refuses dinner I'll always try again, and if not toast or oatmeal. I don't have it in me to let him go the night.

[@quinnclaire658]

The minimum requirements for parenting is a bed, safe shelter, the child is adequately fed, and given emotional & physical support. They can't even do that yet they are trying to teach other about parenting??? No thanks 🤷‍♀️

[@Vincenza8907]

Quinn Claire emotional support is not a legal requirement.

[@beomkawa]

Vincenza8907 they never said it was? plus it’s kind of common sense to have emotional support for your kids?

[@quinnclaire658]

@@Vincenza8907 it depends on the state tbh. Where I am rn it is a legal requirement to provide certain amount emotional support for your child. If that need is not met then the children can be taken away.

[@lt.2992]

You’d be surprised most parents can’t provide that whole list.

[@arowace498]

@@Vincenza8907 legality is not the foundation for morality.

[@lipbalmlover8231]

SHE MADE A VIDEO ABOUT HER 13 YEAR OLD STARTING HER PERIOD! THE CHILD WAS CLEARLY UNCOMFORTABLE AND SAID THIS IS AWKWARD I DONT WANNA DO THIS. AND HER MOM SAID COME ON (Child’s name) YOUR FANS WANNA SEE THIS

[@dakotahbourke8293]

What video was it

[@rewlizzy]

Omg.. why

[@pumpkinbread4948]

OH MY GOSH .

[@taniyahoatman9289]

That’s freaking disgusting and degrading of that baby girl to have to show her private life experience

[@iblxs]

that is so disgusting!! the mom should seriously go to jail rn 💀 and why tf would we want to hear about the daughter's period-?!

[@krokokroko9416]

When she says she hopes no one feeds her daughter...how cruel do you have to be. I would feed any child, let alone mine.

[@CreatePeace612]

Honestly! I help run an after school program. When one of my 5-year-olds tells me they've eaten all their food during the day before coming and want more, I find them a granola bar or Goldfish or something.

[@rpggal]

Not to be that guy, but you really shouldn't be feeding anybody's children unless you know for an absolute fact that they have no food allergies or medical conditions that create dietary restrictions. You're creating unnecessary risk that could harm the child in a situation that is really non-emergent.

[@CreatePeace612]

​@@rpggal We have all of that paperwork submitted at the beginning of the year. Many daycare programs actually supply snacks on a daily basis to all kids, but because of dietary restrictions we do ask that the parents supply lunch and multiple snacks. But if I know a child can have a particular food and they are hungry, I'm not going to turn them away.

[@georgecooper9766]

And I'm sure if the teacher isn't feeding her she's probably getting food from other kids. We would always just go around asking if anyone had food they didn't like/want in their lunchbox when we forgot our lunch.

[@dexaria]

I’m a teacher. I end up feeding kids in my class on the daily. Kids just get hungry

[@bileologist]

I remember feeling really upset as a kid whenever my mom posted a photo of me on Facebook without my knowledge or consent. Even though they were mostly harmless, they weren't photos I wanted all her Facebook friends to see and comment on. Kids on family vlogging channels experience that times a THOUSAND. I can't even fathom how they must feel, having stuff way more personal than a simple photo seen and remarked on by MILLIONS of people. 🙁

[@HaileyDanielle]

I never even thought of this! So true!

[@RobloxbroALT]

I 100% agree, that’s why I have a policy for everyone to NEVER post pics or videos of my son on ANY social media platforms for that EXACT reason

[@buffycatnip]

i've always hated having my picture taken and i would get emotional whenever my mom or a family member posts it on facebook and would beg to take it down

[@RobloxbroALT]

Kylie Kay awwww I’m so sorry to hear that. What parents don’t realize is, those pictures or videos are on the internet FOREVER and I believe that for any child’s pics/videos to be posted, they should have a say in it and if they’re too young to consent to it, the parents shouldn’t post. A child doesn’t have the mental/emotional capabilities to understand potential consequences of how they will feel about it in the future. Once it’s out there, it’s there.

[@cCristinaCc]

for that reason I will not be sharing my children on social media

[@melissacallia4230]

Parents are definitely responsible for their children’s emotional wellbeing.

[@8LyJu8]

Yes, the emotional abuse implicated in everything Hannah said is call CPS now level.

[@mj-yo7vt]

Wish my mom would think that

[@melissacallia4230]

@@mj-yo7vt I'm sorry honey. Some people are in our lives to teach us how not to be. ❤

[@itsbedtimebitch]

thank you!! literally the whole point of raising kids is to keep them from killing themselves?? whether that's from walking into traffic or actually making the conscious decision to take their own lives. what a stupid fucking thing to say... i feel so bad for her kids

[@kesturrr]

And it's sad that this still needs to be brought up

[@elliemccarthy5672]

The lunch thing is straight up neglect. Everyone forgets their lunch sometimes. Or doesnt feel like making it. Even adults! But adults/high schoolers can go buy themselves something when this happens. A child can't.

[@diiissshhhaaaaa]

Exactly, Ruby is acting like she had not forgotten her lunch atleast a few times in her childhood. She expects a FIVE Y/O to pack her lunch? NO! When I was five and I was going to school, my Mom would pack my lunch. The only responsibility I had regarding my lunch was remembering to put it in my bag. My responsibilities in general was just making sure I had all my school supplies, homework, etc. in my backpack. If I forgot my lunch, my Mom, who would be babysitting, (that was her job since she didnt have a permit to work so she could help the family with finance situations) would get a call from the school saying, Oh hey, your child forgot her lunch, could you come and get it for her? and she would ask the parent to take their child on a Uber or Lift or something and she would get my lunch and give it to the main office. Ruby is INSANE for not giving Eve her lunch like wth?! She probably isn't even working and she cant BOTHER to get Eve her lunch? 5 y/o's haven't grown a stable tolerance system to go a lunch without food, heck even the rest of the day! And Ruby even has the NERVE to post something that should be PERSONAL on to a public social platform where people from ALL AGES can see a bunch of different videos. But the plus side is that an authority team can investigate not only that video, but many more.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

The fact that there aren't LAWS protecting children from privacy, from abuse, from this sort of thing shows HOW FAR BEHIND the law is from technology.

[@katyabigailtorres3114]

wow but this observation.

[@Yossepphie]

This!!!!

[@ashleyd2634]

Yes!!!

[@leilaniz5909]

There ARE laws to protect children from abuse lol

[@caralynaufiero913]

Leilani Z I think they’re referring to children’s online presence. A lot of people are exploring their kids online and it’s totally okay because it’s family vlogs and that’s “harmless”.

[@katepurr4angxlz]

Bold of them to assume that their kids won’t already be gone when they’re 18

[@mayberrymom7613]

Right! This is a CPS nightmare! Sadly 6 kids will never get homed together, and it’s sad she so selfish that she can’t see that. She needs a therapist and a few parenting classes.

[@bluerayblair522]

They probably won’t unfortunately. When one is emotionally abused as a child especially with them being brought up in a sheltered religious community. It’s SO DIFFICULT for them to free themselves from it. You can see her eldest daughter who’s already 17 walking the same path as her parents. No signs of her doing anything of this kind despite her being an intelligent young woman which is sad honestly.

[@marli1904]

Blue Ray Blair Very true but the oldest daughter is and always has been the favourite so I don’t know if you can compare her to the other kids.

[@merrivideo]

An emotionally abused person is usually incapable to get out

[@purepoetry33]

If someone doesn’t come it and end this insanity and just totally end this side of KZbin- those kids are DONE by the second they are old enough to be out, AND THEY WILL BE LUCKY IF THEY WAIT THAT LONG.

[@jackrose817]

Oh my goodness. I’m a teacher and I forget MY OWN LUNCH at least once a week. I can’t imagine a parent purposefully not helping your student with lunch, or getting mad at lunch being provided. Wow wow wow

[@CreatePeace612]

I was going to say, I forget my food plenty and have to have vending machines breakfasts! This woman's moral compass is INSANE, wtf.

[@sammadlin8868]

Exactly! So there are never moments in her life she needs her husband to be more gracious or patient towards her? She's never forgetful? My husband forgets something at home every once in awhile, and I will bring it to him if I can. How could we hold our 6yo boy to a higher standard? She is way past trying to teach them life lessons, she's spiteful and vindictive.

[@8LyJu8]

I have a little stash of money in my desk locked drawer in case I forget my lunch. I'm 31 and have been working in the same place since I was 22. We are humans, we make mistakes.

[@honeymoon7259]

i don’t like to call them 8 passengers, i like to call them 6 prisoners

[@jonahdupree]

That’s so smart 😂

[@julianafrith6964]

you came from that tiktok too?

[@honeymoon7259]

Juliana Frith i the funny thing is i called them six prisoners before i saw the tiktok then i saw it and i was like i’m not the only one

[@julianafrith6964]

@@honeymoon7259 i mean its pretty true tho

[@gloriaking9672]

LOL

[@tonyplaysthemambo]

Can you imagine when 10-20 years from now these kids are applying for jobs. How do you deal with the fact that if a prospective employer googles you they are going to find a video of you getting your first period or buying a training bra?

[@strawberrycowie917]

Your pfp is soooo cute

[@breeseipel6924]

Exactly it’s horrible

[@tiffanydlo.x]

Ikr!

[@amberfirexx9]

not to mention imagine going to high school and your classmates or teacher might've seen that, yikes

[@isabelkarolinemongstad3754]

But if they then google them and see all that, they should be an adult and understand that the children’s didn’t agree to all of the stuff and not judge them by the videos their parents put up!

[@breana2734]

Their dad said in her insta “apology” that taking the bed away was fine bc they did it at camp. My guy; there’s a difference between camping and being in the COMFORT OF YOUR OWN HOME.

[@jojol.2630]

Bre Ana and also there’s a difference between a few days/weeks and MONTHD

[@smokey_glow]

Also the fact that it wasn’t just a bed they deprived him of a room!!!!! So all privacy and comfort is just gone!!! Sick.

[@maetodecember]

Also, who takes away a bed???? Doors ???? A whole room??? Like if they took away his phone or computer for a week, that would be fine. But a whole ass bed/door/room, wtf.

[@amyseaden9069]

What about the bathroom door! This is a teenage boy. Give him a little privacy.

[@leirelegarra548]

In that video she mentions how she was called abusive for having her daughter walk barefoot at wallmart and how she found that ridiculous, like that's normal behavior for a parent who actually has the resources to buy footwear for their children...

[@bannokelly18]

The only good thing I’ll say about family vloggers is that it gives abusers the chance to expose themselves. For example Daddy of five, who had soul custody of his two kids and got them taken away and put in better care after the controversy with him went down. Same with the Stauffers. Now that they’ve abandoned their child people have gone back and found footage of them not treating that little boy properly and they have had sponsorships taken away because of it. In the long run I feel terrible for the kids, because in the end they don’t have a choice. But if the parents are stupid enough to broadcast their lives, including their abusive/ toxic behavior then at least there’s a chance that the kids in extreme situations might be saved sooner.

[@graceb9477]

Yeah same I think the only good thing is that abusive (mentally and verbally) parents are exposing themselves, some of them shock me by what comes out of their mouths.

[@rpggal]

Yeah but for every parent that gets "exposed" there are dozens more that are incentivized to exploit and abuse their kids for money. There's plenty of shitty parents out there that, were it not for KZbin providing monetary incentives to exploit and abuse their kids, would probably have just been normal, shitty, do-nothing parents that don't bother to raise their kids because they only care about themselves. But now instead of being normal, shitty, do-nothing parents KZbin pays them money to abuse and exploit their kids in ways they most likely wouldn't have done before. It's not really a silver lining that the system manages to weed out one or two of every 50 or more monsters it creates.

[@vivianpham7742]

The depends on the family vlogging channel.

[@bannokelly18]

Grace B I’m referring to the severe cases where the parents would be abusing their kids either way. Like Daddy of five clearly wasn’t treating his kids properly off camera if he thought THAT behavior wasn’t considered acceptable for a viewing audience. A lot of the abuse claims about the Stauffers don’t even come from their KZbin channel content, rather what she posts on other forms of social media. I certainly don’t think family vlogging is a positive, and I’m not advocating for it. But if there is any silver lining it would be that it exposes the absolute worst people and what they do behind closed doors.

[@didesekmen8044]

“Let me starve my 5 year old child because she forgot to pack her lunch” “Let me film my daughters first time shaving” “Let me film myself threatening to cut my 5 year old child’s toys head off” “Let me film my sons doctors appointment about puberty” *10 years later* Why aren’t my kids visiting me and why am i alone in a nursing home ? So weird...

[@joyscameraroll]

lol

[@mikayla_r6016]

"I gave them everything they need and this is how they treat me?!"

[@diiissshhhaaaaa]

i wOnDeR wHyYyYyyYy... 🤔🤔🤔

[@cadenceolivia6304]

I garuntee you this is what she will think when it happens. and there is nothing I can say except she deserves it

[@bigfatjuicybeanerthateatsa2596]

Might as well film them shiting idk these poor kids i feel bad

[@Justplainsomething]

When you were describing the camp they sent their son, the only thing I could think of was Holes. "builds character!"

[@lorynschneider2643]

Or do more research. Chad found the camp. HE picked it. He wanted to go there.

[@BriarBeeBenson]

@@lorynschneider2643 you should do more research and should realise that the troubled teen industry is a $1.2 BILLION industry that profits off of the abuse of children and teenagers under the guise that it ‘builds character’. There have been cases of children DYING at Anazasi Camp.

[@didesekmen8044]

SAME

[@cadenceolivia6304]

@@BriarBeeBenson I want to cry whenever I see him. he's so cute and whenever he is happy or laughing his mom is glowering at him

[@alexiseve8505]

@@lorynschneider2643 no his parents did. they chose multiple ones and he chose that one doesn’t mean he wanted to go. I watched the video they said “we found multiple camps and he chose this one”....

[@carolinebooker416]

im 16 and my mom still makes my lunch, and i still forget it. my mom brings it to me, not because i deserve it, but because i need to eat...

[@millie960]

Exactly

[@bulldogswinston3417]

Oh I’m 11 and I pack my own lunch but the other day at camp I forgot my lunch and my mom had to bring it to me and I totally agree I didn’t deserve it but I need to eat.

[@margie5404]

Girl deadass acting like her kid are money trees 🧍‍♀️

[@feisty_frog0389]

You can miss one lunch it’s not going to kill u u can go three weeks without food f off

[@margie5404]

Kawaii cookie no you can’t, dumb dumb

[@skylarb8388]

It doesn’t sound like she likes parenting so why did she freaking have kids??

[@ScarletASV]

Exactly what I think! I have met so many people throughout my life that don't like being parents, and they even have more than one child. It's sad for the kids. They're mostly the reason why I take so much care into remaining childless. I don't like children and I don't like motherhood. Having a child would be devastating to me and mostly to the child, who would of course be innocent. I know I wouldn't mistreat a child, let alone my own, but I just wouldn't be happy, and therefore my child wouldn't be either. Children know when they are wanted and loved. Planned and desired motherhoods raise happier childhoods.

[@scoliosisqueen]

Mormonism.

[@kathleenhansen4344]

@@scoliosisqueen for content apparently

[@mcguinness5494]

For money and so that she doesn't have to do shit around the house, she does minimal cooking, almost no cleaning, and makes the children do EVERYTHING.

[@toericabaker]

THEY MAKE HER MONAAAAAAY!👨‍👩‍👧‍👧💲💲💸💸💰💰

[@hahasmiles310]

As a primary school teacher I just hope the children's teachers have reported them for the obvious emotional abuse and neglect.

[@lillygumball]

8 passengers are a good family. Just a strict household. Ruby makes content to help a lot of kids

[@ashleyvestal9030]

Unfortunately, after growing up with severe emotional and verbal abuse from my mother, I know that this type of abuse is almost impossible to prove. Very sad, and needs to change. I am a high school teacher - I totally agree. It would literally take a secret recording in a home for us mandated reporters to prove emotional abuse. And then it would still not fly.

[@siajhanath6356]

@@lillygumball okay who hurt you. How do you think this is normal? These parents aren’t strict, they are in humane. They clearly are giving these children so much emotional trauma. My parents are strict but they have never starved me. YOU DONT STARVE A 5 YEAR OLD. It is absolutely disgusting and it just frightens me that this is on KZbin and they do nothing about this. This is clearly child abuse. Any normal person would be uncomfortable.

[@cadenceolivia6304]

@@ashleyvestal9030 im going through that now. I can't talk at all about it, because my mom gaslights me into thinking that any negative emotions I have. about her are incorrect and invalid whenever I try to say anything about it

[@cadenceolivia6304]

@@lillygumball you are crazy. she takes basic neccesitites from her kids. obviously you have never been through this.

[@aylayzrianne]

Considering how much childhood trauma can shape you as an adult...yes, parents are responsible for their children's emotional wellbeing. If you don't want a parent's responsibility, just don't have kids.

[@sophie-xg1zu]

When these kids end up needing therapists as a result of the trauma inflicted by their parents, bet the parents won’t be funding that either; despite the large sum of money they have made off of their children. I remember the parents discussing how the kids will have to pay for college themselves, with their personal savings, so it’s obvious no money is being paid into separate accounts to support their future.

[@anovemberstar]

Best bit it's aaallllllllll being put online .......

[@jeninegrasc8414]

How ironic. She doesn’t feed her kid, yet they’re her meal ticket.🤔

[@lunamoone5231]

Exactly

[@zobedejesus]

​@M Redmond Yikes mate, i think youre the crazy one here if you dont see anything wrong with their situation.

[@kiram928]

M Redmond no, she was responsible for making and bringing it. As a 5 year old that’s not too hard of a task but to remember doing it in (probably) the hustle and bustle of getting ready in the morning can slip your mind as a child that small. It can be good to ‘teach them a lesson’ by refusing to bring a replacement but Ruby said in the actual clip that it has happened multiple times so clearly she needs to understand that maybe her child isn’t quite ready yet to handle her lunch in the mornings. Coupled with the fact that Ruby is a stay at home mom is no excuse to purposely leave your child hungry. It’s only going to impact the poor child negatively

[@OopsieCat]

@M Redmond it is a five year old my guy.

[@lola22x]

M Redmond she is FIVE.

[@bambigarcia7556]

My mum called my nonna when I got my period and my Aunty called my mum when my cousin got her period and we were soooo embarrassed I couldn’t imagine it being on social media.

[@amberland3725]

I love your name! Is that your full name? Like just Bambi or Bambina? :)

[@nonayurbeezwax]

I remember my mom did the same thing, except it was to her girlfriends, and for some reason she was whispering about it, which made it tenfold more humiliating. Its like PTSD whenever I see my mom socializing. And to know that these kids business is not only amongst adults, but their peers too... that's brutal.

[@Joy-qw3wm]

I`d also like to see Jo Frost "Supernanny" react to these parents.

[@st3ph852]

Yessssss

[@muizzz771]

Oh yes

[@sasha9647]

Although that would still be putting the child in the spotlight (probably without their consent )

[@Joy-qw3wm]

@@sasha9647 Somehow i think she`d do it so they weren`t on film.Just watched ,.then have her opinion.

[@sasha9647]

@@Joy-qw3wm yeah

[@maddyt3328]

plot twist: the kids grow up and use all these videos to sue their parents for emotional distress and violation of privacy...

[@sammi.zavalza]

they should

[@kjs.gab.]

Let's pray they do

[@thepurpleemu]

The ultimate revenge >:)))

[@sofiaoronaa]

don’t make it a plot twist make it a dream

[@princess_tamia_25]

as they should! their mental health is on the line

[@SaraSG1]

I am THIRTY FOUR YEARS OLD and I can't even tell you how many times I've forgotten my lunch when I'm going to work. I started keeping nutrition bars and snacks at work for those days. And a 5 year old is supposed to remember every day????

[@jennshipley6061]

Haha right!? I leave a bunch of freezer meals and snacks at work for precisely this reason.

[@honestiguana]

Maybe if your parents did let you go without a lunch when you first forgot when you were a kid, this wouldn't happen. Very inefficient adult.

[@SaraSG1]

@@honestiguana You're making a lot of assumptions there bud. How do you know my parents didn't do that? Also in what way is that inefficient? I identified a problem in my life and fixed it.

[@honestiguana]

@꧄𒀰꧄𒈙꧄𒈙꧄𒈙𒈙𒀰𒀰𒈙꧄𒈙𒀰𒈙 𒈙꧄𒈙꧄𒈙𒈙𒀰𒀰𒈙꧄ ꧄𒀰꧄ Nope.

[@rachell7318]

We NEED to hold the same energy for fathers as we do mothers!! I feel like in this situation and the Huxley situation, the fathers aren’t mentioned. Both parents should be held accountable

[@kdragon713]

Right

[@carolinemarie4654]

I definitely noticed that too! The fathers are just as responsible

[@TheBlissfullyDandy]

I agree. Kevin is a prick.

[@jolivigg]

anthrohands isn’t he always on work trips and like never really home

[@mayberrymom7613]

Exactly cause the fathers have just as much ability to put a stop to these situations and they don’t so they are guilty too.

[@angeliqueriley4569]

Every kid deserves a parent, not every parent deserves a kid

[@hannah1389]

I’m a teacher. You best believe if one of my kids were hungry, I’d be opening my snacky snack drawer so fast. I refuse to let my kids be hungry/unsafe. That’s my number one priority.

[@AppalachianAllegory]

My mom is a teacher. This is the first thing I imagine my mom doing.

[@zobedejesus]

@M Redmond Theres better ways to teach a child accoutability than leaving them hungry for a day, or risking a grade loss due to forgetting classwork in the car, sweet jesus.

[@carleighhamberger6793]

Do you do the same thing with things like homework? Skipping one meal is not going to cause starvation. My mom did the same thing with me when I started going to school/summer camps and I’m way more responsible than most of my friends. The mom provided the food at home to the point where all the kid had to do is remember to bring it.

[@missmerbella]

Carleigh Hessian there are ways to punish a five-year-old. Taking away their basic needs-a roof over their heads, food and water, etc-is unnecessary and abusive. You can argue it was the 5 yo’s responsibility to pack her lunch. I’d argue the 5 yo can be taught to help but it is never her responsibility to provide food for herself/make sure she’s fed. It’s the parent’s. Always. Just as it is the parent’s responsibility to always provide shelter. You don’t have to take away basic needs from a five-year-old in order to teach accountability.

[@zobedejesus]

M Redmond she took away the chance for the child to eat, she had a chance to supply the child food. Not eating a meal can mess with a child’s concentration in class, coming from someone who didn’t eat lunches due to insufficient money/mental illness, it’s fucked up to do that to a FIVE YEAR OLD.

[@lisamadison13]

She’s making her children fear her and only see her as authority rather than a mommy. The fact that she doesn’t let her kids call it “their house or their room” they have to say it’s “moms room” because she owns it. Listen, I get it, but this is part of raising kids. You’re a family. You provide for them and teach them responsibility, love and independence through that. It just seems like she treats the family as a business. Makes me sad cause those kids are so sweet, but the more the drama comes out I’m now realizing how timid some of them are in the videos. Breaks my heart.

[@ailoriarayne5086]

She's definitely a commie.

[@Laura-ny4up]

Does anyone know if she is a practicing Mormon ? One of my best friends growing up was raised in a practicing Mormon home . The extent of control was so so so so intense it was abuse . This sounds very very old school Mormon or some kind of “18 kids and counting crap” ... My friend left her home and the religion for a very long time . As nothing was her own growing up . No doors as a teenager, No privacy . And complete abusive control . She now has a family with grown adult children . But has been back in the church for 20 plus years . And definitely had to be mindful not to bring that old school ways of control back in her life . I know a few other YT moms that are obviously Mormon but DO NOT USE THIS OLD SCHOOL WAYS . Of nothing is yours it’s all mine and I control all of you . So this 8 passenger lady is definitely abusing her role of parent . And I would bet money she is of old school Mormon ways . So sad

[@Sophia-ks9yu]

Laura I think she is but don’t quote me on it. I know for sure she’s religious

[@alieshasalisbury1453]

Laura yes they are Mormon, they’ve talked about it. And the kids even go to a Mormon school.

[@exybassham9089]

If it’s “moms room” then it should be her who cleans it. Period.

[@bethanybrowne3803]

“I should not know this child has been kicked out of school.” Amen sister! Kept talking about this.

[@mikayla_r6016]

Period sis 💅🏽

[@SavedByJesus-pi3yu]

I found this video in 2023 after her poor children have finally escaped the mothers abuse. Justice for these kids

[@PeachReverie]

They said, “We’ve been accused of abused sooo many times” .........yeah that’s not good! I’m not a pro or anything, but I did grow up in a narcissistic home and they radiate that energy

[@theresaegan3129]

Modern day parenting and “mommy culture” gets me heated

[@zobedejesus]

@M Redmond You sound triggered with the amt of replies youre leaving lmaooo, you sure you're not the soft one here?

[@selfloveandsass]

Ughhhhh “mommy culture” 🤢

[@Racohi]

M Redmond to be honest I agree with you but not 100% in this case, especially the lunch thing it’s very unnecessary and kind of “crazy controlling” and “abuse of power” , maybe it’s different here in Russia than in America but I think people are over reacting over some parenting choices

[@strxberrysage]

M Redmond ok boomer 🙃 Maybe instead of commenting on every comment with that bullcrap, you should go to therapy or stop being a troll. Delusional

[@calebsmum109]

What is mommy culture?

[@jessicadeluna6484]

That poor 5 year old. I cant even remember my lunch for two days straight and i am in my 30's.

[@melissacallia4230]

These people would argue the reason for this is because your parents “must have not let you go hungry if you forgot” BUT I DISAGREE. My mom always brought my lunch and I never forget now.

[@gearsandsteam1]

Even in middle school when I was given the responsibility of making and bringing my own lunch to school, my mom would put some money each semester into my hot lunch/cafeteria lunch account so even if I did forget my lunch I wasn't going to go hungry

[@melissacallia4230]

@@gearsandsteam1 That's because your mom is a good person! ❤

[@rebeccablt2193]

I immediately thought of this video as soon as I read the articles!! You tried warning everyone years ago!! You're foresight is something to be reckoned with. It's just horrible that the children were hurting this entire time.

[@yourdecoydream]

When she said she “hoped no one gave her any food” about her 5 year old who forgot her lunch it gave me chills. I work at an elementary school monitoring lunch, I’m not a teacher or a specialist of any kind I literally just make sure the kids are safe and fed, it is my JOB to make sure they are safe and fed. So yes I’m giving your 5 y/o lunch whether you like it or not because withholding food is ABUSIVE

[@Monolop]

Praise 👏

[@stevebarlowe6588]

Amen.

[@photofreak56]

My mom couldn't put money on my school lunch account once because of an unexpected bill and we didn't have the money for food for a whole week. the lunch workers wouldn't let me get food. I was lucky that my best friend saw this and shared food with me. I'm hoping kids did the same with her five year old

[@kacyphelps]

As a kindergarten teacher I'd have put a school lunch on the mom's account and if she complained I'd just keep doing it unless she provided adequate lunch from home.

[@nournn1660]

Keira Wildermuth she's FIVE. She forgot to pack her lunch, and that's okay because she's a CHILD. She's horrible for going on about her day knowing her baby does not have food and hoping she won't be provided any. No mother would be ok with the thought of not feeding their children, especially if she has the means to do so. She still has many chances to " teach her responsibility", as a mother it's her literal job to care and provide for her child.

[@monicag186]

ugh I live for the anger in your voice when talking about topics like this

[@kristinelewis5373]

I work in the legal department of my local child welfare agency (CPS) and I have to say, it is 100% a sign of abuse or neglect for a mother to be withholding food like that for the daughter; I hope to god the teacher has made referrals.

[@rikkobear6101]

the way it took 3 years to get them arrested now in 2023🤦🏽‍♀️what a fcked up a world. I’m glad they are not in a chokehold anymore and free🎀

[@floralisa1748]

Here's the thing... I think parenthood content is necessary. Parents go through a lot of struggles and I think content by parents for other parents is necessary but it crosses that line when your ENTIRE channel is based on exposing and documenting every detail of your childs life. Theres no reason why a parent needs to put their childs personal details or videos of them having the sex talk or puberty talk online. NONE whatsoever.

[@itskaybe6348]

There are some channels that I have watched that do Parenting topics but do not actually focus on the kids in videos. Lately I have been onto Love Parenting with Avital and after dozens of videos I think there have been only very short b-role like clips of her children, its mostly just her as a parenting coach talking at a camera.

[@theresaegan3129]

They mostly do it for little kids because they’re cute and can’t say no

[@vinregret]

absolutely, you can give parenting advice without showing your kids. I know many KZbinrs reference their kids and parenting experiences in videos but don't show the kids at all

[@aylayzrianne]

Took the words right off my mouth!!

[@kathleenhansen4344]

I could see this being an argument in the future; however, until the law starts to prioritize the safety and needs for these children, I think parents can hold off from seeking advice on youtube. There're plenty of books, classes, etc. Privacy is a need, a parent wanting to feel like they can "relate" to other parents is not. I'm not saying that being a mom or dad isn't difficult, but it is a choice. The children have 0 choice.

[@kentokim]

Whaa - I'm 19 studying psychology and my Mom still feeds me when I'm too busy 🥺

[@nadaaliu7933]

I’m 26 & my mum still likes to bring me cut up fruit when I stay over without being asked & thanked. A mothers work is never done & truly good mothers will never make their kids feel helpless or go hungry for a mistake. I feel sad for these children !

[@kentokim]

@@nadaaliu7933 Yess that's so sweet but that's just mom. My Mom always told me not matter what age you are ,you are still my child.

[@Sarah-xy3rp]

I’m almost 23 and also a psychology student!!My mom still feeds me when I’m busy or forget to eat cuz she won’t let me go hungry no matter how old I am.

[@crocsqueen1474]

I'm 23 and I still live with my parents and still get fed by them. Nothing wrong with it. This generation is going to be better off bc parents arent throwing out their kids at 18 as often as before.

[@kentokim]

@@Sarah-xy3rp 😃 I'm going to be you at 23 and I'm here for it !!!

[@bob8mybobbob]

Some people really take "tough love" too far. No, you don't have to give your kid everything they want and it's okay to punish them if they misbehave. But if you punish your child for things outside their mental capacity or for way longer then necessary, it is no longer a punishment, it is just cruelty.

[@anonymousunite5585]

This.

[@veraa5282]

I’m 14 and I’m in grade 9, I forgot my lunch and my dad still brought me a lunch. That’s so mean to punish a FIVE year old

[@buzzelitestudios4544]

Legit... I forgot my school lunch for my school trip and my dad was at work already.. so he drove all the way back to our house which is like 35-40 mins away then drived all the way back to my school just to give me my lunch. Why? SO I CAN EAT.

[@andrewisvrycool]

That also just means he is a good parent

[@veraa5282]

@a kr parental support does not equal being un prepared for the “real world” everyone no madder age should have someone or a group of people to support them.

[@elia9080]

Sounds like he is just acting out because of his parents treatment.

[@IM-rs6br]

He even said he didn’t have friends and ppl at school probably know what’s going on now bc of his mom

[@Sophia-ks9yu]

I don’t even think he’s actually acting out. I think he’s being normal and that’s too wild for ruby

[@taylorsemelroth2443]

Soap the things he did to get his room taken away, we so stupid and we’re literally just siblings being siblings.

[@kiannaknox1610]

@@taylorsemelroth2443 I know right!!

[@amandanowell3234]

I literally forgot my lunch today on the table when i went to work and i'm 26. My mom brought it to me that poor baby :(

[@hushhush85]

That's so sweet ❤ My mom would do that, too. 🤗

[@fayebae4005]

Same. My mom and nana have both done this and I'm 23. Why would you let a CHILD go hungry!?

[@kayevexoxo]

Sameee! My mom and dad do it all the time for me and I’m 26 !

[@archlily4697]

My brother is a 31 year old doctor and my mom still takes him food when he is having a busy shift that goes overtime.

[@sn00chie33]

This is exactly what's been troubling me about Colleen Ballinger. I honestly think she's a good person [despite her recent drama] but the fact that she filmed her son's birth, and vlogs with him constantly, plus the fact that he's the current highlight of her daily quarantine vlogs... I don't know man. I think that the fact that the whole family is so happy and loving is what sets this ideal for other family vloggers to aspire to, but that's the thing: We're not all wealthy, talented musicians who make up a family of performers consenting to be in the entertainment industry. And guess who's not either? Their baby.

[@GPerla26]

I actually stopped watching her blogs because of this. As someone who grew up with a mother obsessed with taking pictures and videos and who took pictures and videos of me and posted them for a bunch of people to see (mind you nothing like youtube) it really rubs me the wrong way to see her basically film her son and post it into a channel with millions of subscribers

[@imalison]

She. Is. Putting. On. A. Show. Shame on her for exploiting her child for her own wanna be Broadway dreams.

[@honestlyabbysparks1484]

I feel like this is a difficult situation, she’s always made videos so she is continuing that life-style. She does pretty good with his privacy. I’ve seen tons of birth vlogs from not famous people- just to remember natural births etc

[@rc9312]

That's exactly why I stopped watching her. Especially bc when she first announced her pregnancy she was saying not to worry, that her child will not be the focus of her content

[@hannahwells8081]

I stopped watching her once 99.9% of her content was focused around her kid and being a mother in some way.

[@HenkaG]

Children are being exploited KZbin: let’s take away their comments

[@ivanaflores6278]

I'm honestly so sick of family vloggers/youtubers... Ace Family and that one lady who "returned" her adopted son, i just don't like how they all seem to use their children for views and money it is just wrong

[@charlottejenkins6228]

Totally agree x

[@krokokroko9416]

Omg agreed. Also Gardner Quad Squad... The dad sends messages to underage girls.

[@legocuber0860]

The only family’s I don’t mind, is J house vlogs and Dale tribe. It’s obvious in both family’s that they have great relationships with their family.

[@vivianpham7742]

The family bloggers i dont really mind is, j house vlogs, family fun pack, funnel vision, and so other famiily vloggers.

[@rantingintothevoid]

I’m 23 and was severely abused by my mom who I luckily have no contact with anymore. Like a lot of these ‘family bloggers’, my mother was very narcissistic and it was important for her to keep appearances up and spoil me materialistically so people never knew what was happening behind closed doors. I can’t thank you enough for using your platform to shed light on this...it’s clear you’re doing it because you genuinely care about these children’s well-being and not for the sake of views or being a drama channel. Keep doing what you’re doing🤍🤍🤍🙌🏼

[@lillymcelhaney1652]

Do you think the mom is more mean to them behind the cameras,like is that what your saying

[@lillymcelhaney1652]

@M Redmond actually I think you miss read my comment,I think she is mentally abusive and a narcissist,I think these children are treated as if they cant think for themselves and will never be as great as their parents,I think that are treated even worse when the cameras turn off,I was seeing if this person was agreeings.i didnt mean it sarcastically.ive been in a household like this,it really sucks and I'm feeling like these children feel like I did,I hope not cause that stuff cause me to be in a dark place and I dont want that for these kids.

[@katesawyer1151]

Lilly McElhaney thank you!! I see this M Redmond fool jumping on everyone in the comments to defend this woman when she’s obviously very much in the wrong and needs to change her ways for the sake of her family and these kids

[@kpr4225]

@M Redmond Doubt any teenager would be fine with having their mum post videos of their private, puberty-related conversations. I doubt a good mother would rant online in a video how her 5 year old did not bring lunch. I wish this wasn't the case, but it honestly can't be painted as good will.

[@d.a1nty]

@M Redmond Please look up the definition of Neglectful Abuse.

[@catiere9300]

(1) I love when Hannah goes off on family vloggers and bad parents (2) I HATE when parents want to toss their kids out the moment they turn 18. It’s insane to me. Don’t you want your kids to be able to focus on college? Don’t you want your kids to have the opportunity to save up their money? I just think parents should help their kids as much as they can. I understand sometimes parents can’t afford to help their kids much and a kid may have to work full time once they’re out of high school (maybe sooner) but if you can help your kid financially and let them stay in your home, you should imo. Parenting doesn’t stop once they turn 18. You’re their parent for the rest of your life.

[@aubrielouise1532]

Also....don’t you like your children?!? Not every parent and child has a great relationship, obviously, but if you’re dying to get rid of daily interaction with your child, you might have messed up somewhere

[@Ninpiratan]

These types of parents don’t want their kids around after 18 because they’ve lost their ability to exploit and control them. It’s disgusting. Why bring a LIFE into the world if you want nothing to do with them once they finally reach the age to begin LIVING it!

[@theresaegan3129]

Let’s be parents! It’ll be fun and babies are cute! Wait... they grow up?

[@erinaa9486]

My husband still often talks about how upset he is that his parents did this to him... Basically cut him off at 18 for no reason...😟

[@ScarletASV]

Also, I think 18 is way too young for so many things. You're not even fully out of your teens yet. Your body and brain are still developing. You shouldn't *have to* fend for yourself so young. Parents should be reasonable, like if they're struggle financially they can tell their kid that they will keep supporting the basic needs (food, shelter, health) but they can start earning their own money for their clothes, outings, luxuries, etc. Or give them some responsabilities that aren't predatory, like "you will now pay for your phone bill". If parents are in a good financial place, encourage the kids to start earning their own money for their own expenses. Needless to say, support them if they're furthering their education. Honestly if you raised your kids right, they will want to start supporting themselves as soon as they can and may even want to voluntarily contribute to the household, then it's up to the parents not to be predatory.

[@abohano3295]

As a mom of a little girl that just turned 6, I can't imagine making her go all day without eating because she forgets to make it herself. My heart breaks for these kids and the abuse they endure.

[@lorynschneider2643]

She didn't go all day

[@thepanperson215]

U. Sound like a good mom❤️❤️ I hope ur kid is nice and haveing a good life!and u!:)❤️💜❤️💜❤️💜❤️

[@sofiaoronaa]

Imagine making your 5 year old child go hungry because they forgot their lunch.

[@B-ch6uk]

Then mom said she hopes nobody gives her anything - something about teaching her a lesson. Can you imagine?

[@lorynschneider2643]

They did not make her chikd grow hungry. She had a good breakfast that day and by the time she called about her lunch there was 2 hours left in school. Thry live over 45 minutes away from the school. She was fine. She came home and had a huge snack THEN DINNER. She did not starve her child!

[@feisty_frog0389]

So what they forgot there lunch they lived an hour away from the school

[@alka5442]

No I get so hungry as I have my lunch at 1 o’clock I get so so hungry I would actualy cry for food

[@sofiaoronaa]

Eve Cole i’m guessing you’re either 5 years old, really rude or really ignorant

[@mhl6951]

One time when I was 5 I packed my own lunch for some reason. I literally just grabbed a handful of uncooked spaghetti noodles. I nibbled on it and told my friends I was a farmer.

[@Duhbella]

Farmers do love that uncooked spaget

[@Biogrrrl]

😂😂😂 I needed a laugh today

[@maryinsanfrancisco]

😂❤

[@rhaena8259]

Best comment ever :D

[@samuiyuki3117]

Sometimes I get uncooked spaghetti noodles and eat them when I'm bored

[@Sophia-ks9yu]

I’m so worried about these kids getting targeted by predators. So many creeps enjoy watching first periods/shaving/puberty stuff. It’s not okay

[@alexlawrence9308]

I actually struggled telling my mum about starting my period- let alone millions of subscribers. Even if they feel ok about it at the time they may not in a few years, scratch that, they may not the next day. Children change their mind all the time and in this case they shouldn't even be in a place where they have to make this decision. It's horrible

[@centaurus2309]

Adult with child sexual contact should be decriminalized. It's time to go pro contact MAP!

[@scavengerofhumansorrow0428]

@@centaurus2309 you’re sick

[@harlieschmidt5945]

CPS was called on Maddie Lambert (she was pregnant at 13, barely shy of 14, and she gave birth to Everly Joy at 14) because she posted a video of Everly playing in a hole in a trampoline and saying "Mama" with Maddie laughing in the background. someone in the comments said "call CPS on 8 Passengers not Maddie Lambert who almost spoils her child and takes better care of her at 17 than a lot of mothers who are over the age of 24"

[@sasha9647]

Facts!!!

[@alyssadocampo8593]

honestly there should be laws about this, it’s unacceptable at this point

[@yvettedelatorre3670]

True

[@allymemedovich4932]

I'm in law school, and I wrote my final paper this year on privacy rights, laws and family vloggers. I essentially argued that, like you say, KZbin needs to take responsibility and do something. I actually cited one of your videos! I'd be happy to pass the paper along, if you want to read it :)

[@dayanacba]

I'd loved to read it! I think we need a lawyer vlog explaining cases like this

[@Jordan-se5cn]

@M Redmond she said the paper was centered on privacy rights which should be objectively viewed because your right to privacy is immediately exercised the second you are born. She's not proposing the 'right way to parent' as you're suggesting, which is subjective.

[@Jordan-se5cn]

It is all good and well that the mother asks the 18 year old if she may post certain videos, however it is inconceivable to imagine the mother asking the other younger children, especially the 6 & 8 year olds, for their consent. This is especially so if you take into account the fact that consent should be informed, & children younger than 10 often lack the capacity to give this informed consent. Nobody is accusing them of "abuse" per se, although it is questionable. However they are violating their kids rights to privacy, something that can't be tossed aside because "children are under their parents control until they are 18". There are still laws that exist. Also, her concern is not an interrogation of children's rights of this family alone, but for the children of all family vloggers in general. It is a cause for concern.

[@Jordan-se5cn]

Sorry Chad is 15, but the argument still stands.

[@Jordan-se5cn]

@M Redmond okay firstly, let's just breathe lol. I think you're misunderstanding who I'm referring to. I'm talking about the person who mentioned writing a paper on privacy laws & youtube IN GENERAL (the comment that started this whole debate) and not the youtuber who made this video. Yes, I realized that the child was 15 and not 18, but that doesn't negate my point, it actually strengthens my argument because he's actually still a minor then, & like I said it's not easy to obtain informed consent from a minor. Also, there seems to be confusion about which people privacy laws are supposed to protect children against. We're not talking about children wanting privacy in the home or from their parents, we're talking about minors who are deserving of privacy from the rest of the world (actually privacy laws), specifically in very personal situations - which is not what's being done on youtube it would seem. You ask how parents are supposed to protect their kids if the kids keep their lives hidden from them, which (aside from the fact that that's not the kind of privacy we're talking about here) is ironic because the parents are doing the opposite of protecting their kids by documenting virtually every aspect of their lives for the world to see.

[@rhondamcqueen7780]

I cannot believe you just started a sentence with 'The reason that feeding your child food during school is important ...' As far as I am concerned, not feeding your child is neglect, and forcing them to sleep on an uncomfortable floor is abuse.

[@rhondamcqueen7780]

@M Redmond Fortunately, in Australia, we would call Child Protective Services; who offer many services before they take the kids away. It isn't acceptable not to feed a child and a five year old shouldn't be responsible for their own lunches. It should at least trigger an investigation, even in the US where abuse is sanctioned in many environments, it wouldn't be acceptable in other countries.

[@justsaying8358]

@M Redmond are you really comparing a 5 years old to an adult? OMG 😳, that's just I don't even know what to say.

[@sophie-xg1zu]

M Redmond for a start she is a child, children forget things, everyone forgets now and again even adults, it doesn’t make the irresponsible. Ruby made her children pack their lunches every day, she refused to remind even the youngest of them, and then she’s surprised when one day out of the whole year the 5 year old forgot it.

[@sophie-xg1zu]

M Redmond also, you are comparing people in poverty not having a bed, to a child in a wealthy family who is essentially providing their families income through his role in videos, not getting the bare minimum of a bed. Yet no one is claiming either is acceptable, both are neglect. Taking away a childs bed for 7 months just isn’t an effective method of discipline, most child psychologists and psychiatrists disagree with such methods.

[@sethmishne]

@M Redmond refusing to bring your child a lunch when they forget it is abuse. not letting anyone else give her food is definitely abuse. this is not a 5 year being irresponsible this could turn into food disorders when she gets older.

[@michaela_corinne]

I make my own lunch now, but that’s because I’m 15. Most 5 year olds probably won’t remember their own lunch.

[@cadenceolivia6304]

my six year old brother can't remeber to put on shoes when we go to the car

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

Exactly! Rant: Some people are forgetting how small and clumsy 5 year old humans are. Their little hands and arms that are expected to make her own lunch as fast as an adult...Her little brain and stomach. They need food to grow! Which includes growing her hands and legs, so she's at least tall enough to even reach the table...oh yeah, and the brain needs to grow big enough to be able to remember these things!! There literally isn't room in a 5 year old brain, to think about all the things adults expect her to. She isn't even being taught a "lesson." That would require understanding and memory and just, agh it's stupid!! Sorry, I'm still pissed, and frustrated reading comments from people who don't seem to be thinking of a 5 year old, in the context of their body and brain development. Preparing a lunch doesn't just require the toddler to remember, and already she has better things to focus on, at school! I hate this.

[@thepanperson215]

True,when I was 6,I wood make it,if I forget my mom wood come and get me food if I wood forget

[@brianagarcia8546]

Hunger should never be a punishment. How can a child go 8+ hours without eating and then you expect them to do well in school and behave well?

[@mohamedaminehadji6415]

What I never understood about family vlogging is why feel the need to "show" your kids. I mean, I follow some KZbinrs who have children and make contents about parenting. However, although this content is popular and exclusively about their kids, they never show the actual kids. They're more like "my kid did this and that", "I'm trying this parenting technique" and even some more personal details, but without revealing the child's identity.

[@brianner3378]

I feel like this kind of content is helpful and productive. What are some of your favorite channels that put out these vids?

[@meg4917]

Agreed, I feel like Jessfam does that somewhat. Her vlogs are more of her day and her kids mostly just play with themselves and just do whatever idk. Maybe i’m off lol

[@juliadandy6019]

I think even like that, at this day and age, colleagues in school would for sure find out if your parent has a channel and know what they are talking about is about you. Like she says in the video, can you imagine them sharing details about like your first period? Even if you are not shown in the video, still think is not ideal. But I do get being a parent and wanting to have that community to share experiences. Not sure what the best way would be - maybe a closed group or something.

[@milenac.7013]

@@juliadandy6019 i absolutely agree with you. i think actually its weird how we all forgot that things like that have always existed. groups of parents who either meet up or chat in a closed group about troubles with their children or questions they may have. when i read your comment i had to think about the idea of a closed group and then i realized yea.... that kinda thing parents have always done and it worked well without youtube

[@sarahbourne1872]

Or there are channels where the vlogs are actually filmed and edited largely by the kids, and they make kid friendly content (norris nuts). Again that might not necessarily stop the financial exploitation aspect but those parents seem responsible about money.

[@pastahoe]

So incredibly ironic that she says her kids can’t live with her after they’re 18 but THEY indirectly paid for the house, what a poor excuse for a mother lmao

[@KikiMeowKitty]

Right😂 tf is wrong with her

[@juz2chillz4u]

she won't have to worry about them staying there at 18 because they are likely going to leave the MINUTE they can

[@bisersable8247]

Yeah, I don't get it. Don't they have any rights to the house? I mean... it's their house too.

[@skylargrimes7191]

She makes her 5 year old daughter make her own lunch, skinny shames her and says she hopes people don’t give her food🙄

[@LukeAlexander]

Amazing video Hannah, you put the nail in the coffin. It’s so disgusting what this family and other family channels are doing

[@rjafitzgerald]

Luke Alexander PREACH 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@maryserge8516]

omg king

[@maryserge8516]

love you both

[@hannahprater4745]

Agreed, love your channel btw

[@NottTaco]

The best family on youtube is J house and sopo squad family

[@AngelinaYayy]

Lets not forget she literally forced her child to stay back a year just because she didn't want her to he the shortest in her class. 😒

[@danielabackstrom]

Wtf???????

[@hollyhayes4590]

That's so messed up

[@chillheartss]

Are you kidding me?!!

[@sascha5222]

um what thats so messed up in all ways whattttt

[@burnedcalculat0r566]

She seriously did that? Honestly f her dude.

[@peachywinky]

As someone who lives in Utah, it doesn’t surprise me that they’re from Utah... it’s wild over here and i hate it!!

[@vfam.4308]

same!

[@carolbaskin1857]

Right

[@mistylavae2433]

Same!

[@livijean1]

But as someone also from Utah, this is not normal and if you know people who are behaving like this, turn them in for abuse. This is not strict parenting, this is abusivo parenting and we need to stop covering up abuse with the word “strict”

[@peachywinky]

Ojreader i agree!! this is not normal and should not be normalized.

[@SyriusStarMultimedia]

Well. This video should be re-released and watched 100 million times. My God.

[@brennaashlyn7856]

The child I nanny who also happens to be 5 forgot her lunch in the car this morning, and on my way home I saw it. Even though it was an additional 25 miles to go back and return it, like a rational person, I of course went and took it to her. This isn't even my child, but I could never intentionally starve a 5 year old, she is sick.

[@jessxox4612]

Brenna Ashlyn ikr, how is a child so young meant to remember food.then the parents finding out they forgot it and making them starve is sick. Poor child, sitting there with no food hoping their parent will bring it. I’m glad not everyone is sick like ruby

[@brennaashlyn7856]

xo definitely, it makes me sick to think about intentionally starving a child!

[@angelareese390]

I'm 36 & forgot my food at my work this week, it happens, it's happened before, and it will most definitely happen again because people make mistakes! The fact she films herself disciplining her children so they can go to school where every classmate knows their private moments.... omg this lady is horrendous!!!!!

[@nournn1660]

Angela R period, the whole " she's teaching her responsibility" excuse is vile. This is a 5 year old we're talking about, that made a mistake any person of any age would make. How is she even okay with the thought of her child not having food and actually wishing no food will be provided for her?

[@oananar8207]

I took my son out of kindergarten in the first year because they had a meal rule which stated that all children eat between 9 and 9:30 am and he is not an "early eater" so he would have to stay hungry until 1 pm when I was picking him up. I guess other parents complained also because the following year they set a 2 meals program : 9 to 9:30 and 11 to 11:30. I can't even imagine myself doing something like the bull she did

[@zeerap5401]

At five years old I wanted to get on the ceiling fan and spin around cause I thought it’d be fun. I was nowhere near being responsible enough to pack my own lunch lmao

[@lillymcelhaney1652]

I'm a teenager and I still wanna swing on the fan

[@othersideofthedoor]

she made POINTS, your honor.

[@Kristinnnnnnlaughs]

She is a horrible person and mom. Sick

[@Rock_star1620]

Like her chin

[@missmerbella]

michelle peterbilt feel better now?

[@Katielomax7]

michelle peterbilt your flat ass chin could never

[@Rock_star1620]

Katie Lomax lol ya stupid.

[@BMarie774]

Okay so... if my middle school or high school age child repeatedly forgot their lunch, I could see myself being like “nope, I’m not bringing it today”. But a five year old? A FIVE YEAR OLD is responsible for making and taking her own lunch? I’m sorry, what? Not to mention it’s a COMMIN OCCURRENCE that ruby doesn’t bring it? I could see myself doing that ONCE to my teenage child, to make a point. But repeatedly? And to a five yea old? That’s disgusting.

[@gracey6393]

I get what you are saying but I would still feel so bad thinking about my hungry teen.

[@christiemann2907]

@@gracey6393 yeah but I get what she’s saying

[@lesbiangoddess290]

Its just so vile

[@show._bug]

especially because most teens are able to buy their own lunches at school

[@BMarie774]

Gracey Where I live, all kids who can’t pay for normal lunch and don’t bring one are provided a ham and cheese or peanut butter and jelly sandwich, fruit, milk, and a veggie side dish. So they wouldn’t go hungry. They’d just be sitting there all grumpy bitterly eating a PB&J whining to their friends about how mean their mom is for not bringing their lunch, to try and gain sympathy points to bum a few tatter tots from their mates lol.

[@LaurenElizabethxxxx]

Can we just leave family vloggers in 2020 along with COVID, racism, and Instagram eyebrows?

[@nicolegeorge3704]

Instagram eyebrows!! Oh yes!! Best comment 🙋🏻‍♀️

[@itsme-mt2fo]

"the reason feeding children food is important" a sentence I never thought would b needed to b said

[@marleycurtis794]

ice cube basically the same thing, you know what they meant, who cares 🤦‍♀️

[@rickastley3429]

ice cube lol💀

[@baryvela]

ice cube obviously you do too, since you felt the need to correct the original comment or :) guess we all care. We’re all rocking the same boat

[@rilleygriffin]

I’m just one mom; but for what it’s worth: I agree 100% with everything you’ve said in this video. And your rants about these people are helpful to me bc they’ll never get a click from me. So thank you, Hannah ♥️

[@sewnerdy918]

I wish someone would take down Ryan’s Toys reviews because honest to god, those parents are exploiting him and spending all that money he’s getting.

[@riverdaisy4215]

Seriously something about them making so much money off a little boy reviewing toys is just wrong it really does feel appropriate to exploit your kid like that. Sure they can say “oh we’re putting some of it towards his school, future college, etc.” but really the vast majority of the money this little boy is making is being taken by his parents for their own use. There’s no way he could spend even a dent of those tens of millions of dollars at age nine.

[@isauravanderhaegen7367]

My brother, is 22 years old, so a full blown adult and he sometimes still forgets his lunch. My mother ALWAYS brings his lunch to his workplace because she's uncomfortabel knowing he has to work on an empty stomach. This mother is disgusting for refusing her 5 year old child lunch.

[@isauravanderhaegen7367]

@M Redmond lol, who hurt you. He still lives at home because it's too expensive to buy a house in our country when you're alone and young. He doesn't expect her, or me, or my dad to bring him lunch when he forgets and he is always grateful when we make time to bring him lunch. He forgets once in a couple of months. Don't act like you know us or my brother. My mother raised him well. I'm happy i'm not your child nor would i ever want to have a partner who thinks this way. Refusing to bring a 5 your old child lunch because he/she forgot is abuse. The poor child is 5. Get a grip and raise your children right instead of abusing them.

[@isauravanderhaegen7367]

@M Redmond where did i say he always forgets his lunch?

[@Motions.in.Lemonaid]

M Redmond people forget things. I show my kids compassion and that they matter to me, I will bring my kids lunch yes even when they are older if they ask. When they grow up they will show others compassion because that’s what my family modeled.

[@d.a1nty]

@M Redmond You CAN teach responsibility and accountability without having to hurt your child. No one is agreeing with your comments. Is someone sad they couldn't afford the Capri Suns in the vending machine? Did you even watch the video or was it mandatory for your ridiculous comments?

[@ssjup81]

22? Nah, he'd be on his own if he were my kid. I couldn't imagine being 22 and calling and asking my mom to bring me my lunch, unless we were carpooling and I left it in the car...maybe. Edit: Never mind. I saw what you wrote and how it's not like a constant thing.

[@aplainjaneproduction8285]

Okay, KZbin, you absolutely need to stand up and do something before suicides and God knows what else start happening as a result of this. Don't monetize videos with kids in them - set an age limit if you want, say of 10 or so. These parents who especially share private, personal footage of their kids' lives obviously aren't acting in their best interests as parents should. That is why you need to set guidelines and regulations like the movie industry did. Until that happens, it appears that anything goes and it is just going to escalate unless someone puts the brakes on.

[@pnwnewyorker9088]

It’s going to take that first round of lawsuits. At minimum parents should have to abide by labor laws since the filming is work for kids.

[@katherinejoshy6541]

All these “innocent” family channels really be exposing themselves lately

[@femlin1994]

Yes, and YT allows/recommends this content because they make money off them. Many content creators will bring issues like these families to light, but rarely want to put the responsibility on YT because YT pays them. Vicious cycle.

[@miah.c9398]

In one of her videos she started crying bc her oldest son (chad) didn’t get an A+ but got like a C or a D and she started crying 💀💀💀

[@eliselawless3246]

I would be happy with a C or a D because I’ve never achieved a C in anything GCSE wise

[@misohapy]

I think it’s also important to note the responsibility of the fathers in these situations... they’re neglecting their children too but rarely do people criticize or even mention them.

[@dreamyanon5151]

Right, I hear it's called the 'other parent theory' or something similar. When kids have a parent that is neglectful but not as abusive as the other parent it can be overlooked.

[@firebenderkitty313]

I think it’s because the mothers are usually the face of the channel. It’s way more common to see mommy vloggers than dad vloggers. The mothers are more often the narcissists and the dads are the enablers. But I totally agree, both parents are shitty people who don’t deserve kids.

[@alexandrasymone5374]

I would LOVE to see an experiment where family channels (especially the ace family) go a month or two without posting their kids on the channel AT ALL. Imagine the drop in views and revenue. I feel like these parents talk themselves into thinking they’re also an appeal to the channel, but they’re not. It’s all about the cute little kids and you’re right, it’s super exploitative.

[@smokey_glow]

100%

[@kims364]

@@smokey_glow I don't know if you've ever hear of the Sacconejolley family but they are the WORST! Family vlogging needs to STOP!! It's disgusting and makes me soooo mad. DON'T stop reporting on family vlogging until it ENDS!! What can we do to get KZbin to stop?!

[@apriltschirn7652]

I Became a Mother at 18, I Am now 23 With a 5 Year Old Daughter. I would Never Have my Child pack her lunch at 5,it’s important to give children responsibility but at that age it can’t be a requirement. Being a Parent requires you to teach them, they learn from you, it’s Abusive to expect your 5 year old child to pack, and remember their lunch.

[@kayagaffney5922]

Like my parents made me help pack lunch then, but they always checked that it was healthy, Then when I was in 3rd through the rest of school I was in charge of my lunch (I always had my lunch account full). I think that's a much better option to teach responsibility than what 8 passengers is doing.

[@katsabovitch8835]

@@kayagaffney5922 Right? how is a 5 year old supposed to know what a balanced meal consists of? When you pack your kids lunch with healthy food from when they are little it will teach them what they 'should' be eating so in the future they make the best choices to have enough energy to get themselves through the day.

[@sofia.scavo27]

Exactly. When I was 5 my mom always packed my lunch/helped me pack it. Sometimes I asked if I could do it and she said yes but, never made me do it on my own. I do do other task such as keeping my room clean but never cooking/making lunch. Especially because, a five year old most likely won’t make a healthy lunch.💕

[@kalynnevis8866]

Kat Sabovitch that was my first thought too. If my mom had left my lunch up to me when I was a kid it would’ve consisted of a bag of cookies and nothing more. No parent in their right mind would expect a 5 year old to understand nutrition and make healthy, balanced choices. Nutritional deficiencies can cause serious health problems, especially in children. It’s absolutely mind-boggling to me that anyone would consider that to be a young child’s responsibility

[@KAR0519]

I pack my lunch with my daughter and teach her to balance it out. It is her job to get herself ready and to get her lunch but I help he of course! If she forgot her food I would bring it to her since everyone make mistakes that mom is just....no mom is perfect but really!?

[@colleenspruiell2303]

Besides having to make their own lunch and do chores everyday, ALL the kids, including the 5 year old do their own laundry. What in the hell does Ruby do all day? Seems the kids do it all.

[@millie960]

'I should NOT know that this child was kicked out of school!' And 'She will NOT silence me!' Yass sister you go girl!!!

[@brinka7918]

the way she will expect kids to come back “home” for Christmas

[@zobedejesus]

@M Redmond Nah

[@sarab3417]

M Redmond get a grip already.

[@m1sh474]

@M Redmond they fear them.

[@squash6497]

I'm willing to bet they'll go no contact the day they are 18, if not even sooner

[@chelseal654]

Controlling parents actually do return, because they’ve been conditioned to fall in line, and they want to do anything to finally gain their parents love. It’s super toxic. The book Toxic Parents touches on this in depth.

[@AC-th4ci]

The fact that these parents are trying to argue with you on this, when you’re a literal social worker, just blows my mind.

[@kimberlyhayes7560]

@@josiehouse3124 then the assigned social worker was a joke

[@yougotgamesonyourphone6947]

josie mae maybe you had shit social workers?

[@ashwakkalil3931]

@@josiehouse3124 thats the social worker your family had's fault not all social workers lol

[@kaylenkamiyah694]

ELLA BARRUS how is she

[@feisty_frog0389]

She’s trash and has no right to make a whole video about this and there not arguing with her

[@mandylf4158]

You were aware longer than anyone I know. With today's news that's coming out on 8 passengers...thank you! ❤🙏✌️

[@lukaj679]

As a recent sociology grad, I really want to shine a light on these things and get articles out there from the perspective of the children themselves. Funny how for me to interview one of these kids would take more documentation of consent than the parent's actual content 😬

[@tiffanyhowell8444]

totally agree with you. it really breaks my heart to see thumbnails of children crying titled ‘she peed her pants! she was so scared! he HATES this... she was traumatized!’ whatever it may be. i’m a nobody with a few hundred followers on instagram and i’m still so careful about what i post about my daughter. i just can’t imagine putting her vulnerability on display like that. so sad

[@ameeraraven2698]

She's not 'kind of' a bad mom. She IS a horrible mom.

[@moonliight8020]

Ameera Raven I was going to say...

[@donnakawana]

I wish she wud have to take parenting classes...then jail!!

[@donnakawana]

YOU TUBE JAIL THAT IS!

[@dyllon5133]

She stopped her daughter from posting on her personal channel

[@susanmenn5016]

She's a C. U. Next...Tues...well, you know what I mean.

[@VandanaBhattarai]

I would probably be crying at home if my child forgot his lunchbox at home.. what a cruel that mother she is.

[@kelsey5596]

Something tells me CPS will be knocking on these people’s doors soon. I hope so anyway

[@brianagarcia8546]

Kelsey Colleen CPS rarely does anything unless a child has SEVERE neglect or abuse. Usually not even then :/

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@brianagarcia8546 unless they wanna feel like arseholes then theyll take kids from perfectly healthy family with bussies schedules thus there late to school to much

[@sophie-xg1zu]

Doubt it. They are a rich white family, nothing will happen and the parents will continue to exploit and mistreat her children until they grow up and become estranged and end up having to spend thousands on therapists for the trauma.

[@TheHG12]

Briana Garcia idk not having a bed/room for your child and they are having to sleep on the ground definitely equals severe neglect. The rest, not so much unfortunately.

[@GeneralNuisance00]

@@brianagarcia8546 Case and point, Gabriel Fernandez. His parents had 60+ complaints filed against them, but CPS did nothing until Gabriel was tortured and murdered by his mother and her boyfriend. The State of California literally charged the CPS workers as accomplices because of their inaction.

[@Itsxniffy]

She wants eve to eat more so she can grow but yet she doesn't pack her a lunch

[@_greathy]

FACTS

[@BriarBeeBenson]

@ELLA BARRUS it is stated in multiple clips in other videos that Eve is responsible for making, packing and remembering to take her own lunch to school. In one clip Ruby is filming herself and one of Eve’s older sisters making fun of the way she packed an item of food because she didn’t do it correctly/in a strange way. So yes. Ruby make Eve make her own lunch, pack her own lunch and bring her own lunch to school. Even forgot to either make her lunch or bring it with her. Regardless of what one she forgot to do she does not deserve to starve over it and Eve’s lunch is RUBY’S responsibility as a parent! Eve probably doesn’t even know the alphabet and how to read let alone the dexterity and knowledge required to prepare a proper lunch nor the memory capacity to remember to bring it with her. You’re literally expecting a 5 year old to do something that most kids don’t start doing until they’re literally twice her age.

[@briancagordon2308]

Who doesn’t play pranks on siblings? 😂 I still sometimes do. If we can’t pull pranks, what’s the point of having siblings? 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@TheSoccer484]

Exactly that's what siblings do

[@idkvdb591]

Pranking sibblings is a normal thing

[@killingeveedits8228]

Exactly

[@canadianboy5578]

Exactly my brother and I beat each other up, mess around and play pranks it's what brothers do

[@meganwulfy2346]

I know

[@oliviapetrowski4553]

Ruby’s gonna end up with no kids soon. Shari will move out and go to college, and the rest will get depression