"THESE GUYS DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING!” 🤬 | Eddie Jordan rips FIA over Wittich axe before Vegas

[@sammylj3644]

I have a feeling Sebastian Vettel would one day make an excellent race director….I think he’s a nerd about anything to do with F1 and he has this amazing perspective on things…something to consider sooner than later maybe

[@fintonmainz7845]

A man who Deliberately crashed into someone under the safety car is unfit to be a race director.

[@oznews1]

Oh piss off

[@oznews1]

@@fintonmainz7845👍🏻✌🏻

[@lousekoya1803]

@@fintonmainz7845 Who crashed into someone ?

[@andre9616]

Absolutely right

[@NicotineRosberg]

Charlie knew the rule book like the back of his hand. RIP to the man. Still missed

[@andrewhouser1334]

tax dodgeing ass

[@jone8626]

but he was also Biased. he allowed certain drivers get away with crashing people out, overtaking outside the race track etc etc. While drivers he disliked got penalties for looking at someone the wrong way.

[@quigglyz]

@@andrewhouser1334 what a gay comment 😂😂

[@techtipsuk]

Definitely he was great

[@jone8626]

wasn't just the red flag that got him fired. Sprint race VSC was clear race manipulation by the Race director. Waiting for several laps until Mclaren swap positions, then instant VSC. Ending the VSC took for ever and it ended when both mclarens were safe from Max. Never seen VSC ending take so damn long.

[@Kalire21]

EJ should be President of the FIA.

[@jamesvoneschen6603]

unironically it might be a good decision

[@citycarpartscitycarparts940]

What a Joke he is washed

[@ashleymoore1099]

Max for the title Ferrari for the championship

[@Haarlemmer81]

Max in a Ferrari even better.

[@1DX2020]

Me, for World Domination.

[@BwInNewJersey]

Bold

[@fintonmainz7845]

I still wouldn't bet against McLaren for the constructors. The 4 drivers in Ferrari and Mac are really going to be motivated for the last 3 races. Each has something to prove. I can't see Max driving conservatively just to get a couple of safe points though. P.S. what's the name of the driver who drives a car which looks like Max's??

[@mendokusai94]

@@fintonmainz7845sergio perez if you mean his team mate

[@scottyskydog]

With the inconsistency in penalties called by stewards this year i totally agree with Eddie! This needs to be addressed and the FIA needs to get rid of Ben S. the egotistical troll!

[@daarom3472]

I honestly think the one Fernando got in Australia was the worst one by far (his one in China was also harsh). Lando not getting one last week is inexcusable as well.

[@hamz__zzz]

EJ for FIA President!!!

[@Tomsm8]

shame we dont get to vote

[@Atlas.Brooklyn]

I mean, absolutely a bad idea but we're on the right track! Get him involved!!

[@semadragun]

🔥🔥🔥

[@BigLebowski1337]

You are onto something here!!

[@ralphe5842]

That would be a hoot

[@adriancollymore2095]

This is the kind of podcast that should be televised. Straight to the point and no bullshit. EJ & DC 🔥

[@coldmorningcoffee101]

It's on KZbin ! Why would it need to be televised ? On which channel , Sky ? LOL LOL. No, fck Rupert Murdock and Fck Sky F1.

[@solquint2390]

The Crimson Chin himself putting the FIA on blast.

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

Races should be decided on track, not a in a classroom with a bunch of failed racing drivers calling the shots.

[@kondjanegongo796]

100% Johnny Herbert is bitter and sour after max nd alonso gave him a bolocking

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

@@kondjanegongo796 Herbert isn't fit to shine either of their shoes.

[@alain6930]

What have ever you achieved?

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

@@alain6930 You'd be surprised :D

[@exist]

@@kondjanegongo796 And it's also funny Herbert was one of the main voices against "Swearing", yet anyone who watched him race back in the day, especially in DTM, you'd know the language he used back than makes the Current grid look like a Family Channel...

[@wimg.2377]

I like this podcast, I would not have subscribed otherwise. However, I do get slightly irritated about the misconceptions surrounding Abu Dhabi 2021 and Michael Masi. Masi did know the rules, and that is why he did what he did, but not after having consulted with the team managers before the race, and during the race he had it confirmed again, sometime around the first pit stop. Basically all team leaders/principals had agreed that the race would not end under a safety car, but that it would end as a race, which as mentioned, was confirmed again during the race. And Masi did what he was allowed to do according to the rules and regulations, including the race director's discretion - which is also in the rules. Only after Abu Dhabi the rules were changed for the 'loophole' he used to make sure the race would not end under a safety car. Mercedes were the guys who made strategic mistakes, twice, by not changing the tyres on Hamilton's car when they had the opportunity, it is that simple. Masi was fired because Wolff lobbied like crazy, also to make himself look better and draw the attention away from the stupid strategic mistakes they made. Anyway, glad to have this out of my system.

[@Redlingstein]

Well said!!!!!

[@freddiefreihofer7716]

I totally agree. There was a high likelihood that the race would have ended with a Safety Car procession if Massi had done any differently than he did.

[@daarom3472]

tbf on Merc they were screwed either way, or do you really think Lewis would've been able to overtake Max even with new tires? Max is a better defender and overtaker plus he could take more risks as crash = he wins.

[@Klont123]

@@daarom3472Max would have had older tires and the Mercedes was the superior car, not believing Lewis could overtake was underestimating him imo.

[@kwl189]

And to make things worse, it’s not the only time Wolfe lobbied for no other reason than to get things in his own favour. It’s absolutely disgraceful he’s allowed to get things his own way. He did the same shit in getting the floors raised on this generation of cars to stop porpoising and yet Ferrari and Red Bull managed to avoid this problem just fine showing it could be achieved.

[@semadragun]

LOVE this channel...i must say if i was at a GP event, or anywhere else before FFS started and i saw Eddie & David, i would have been very hesitant to say a quick hello. But these guys are so down to earth and humble i would feel confident to approach these legends and simply say a warm hello and a thank you. 😊

[@pushingbroom]

Vegas man hole cover. The cover was welded to the frame and the cover didn't come loose from the frame.. the frame got ripped out of the tarmac and that's what wrecked the Ferrari.

[@nollienick1121]

Yeah the pipe underground broke. Not much you can do about that really. But still think it was wrong to penalize sainz

[@BobbyGeneric145]

The fact that they still penalized him was absolutely absurd.

[@liambuxton1994]

Exactly still a load of shite.

[@garybarbati]

The problems with the fIA start at the top.

[@Sederiq]

The problem with Sainz's crash last year wasn't that the manhole lid wasn't welded. It was. It's just that the concrete around the whole thing broke and threw the whole construction into Ferrari's belly.

[@joshrandall5297]

Shows how massive the downforce is.

[@henkweurding3339]

Eddy is a character, but he knows more about F1 racing then the whole board of Formula One.I still have a official Jordan F1 in my closet, but after 20+ years It seams to have shrunk.

[@MarioDallaRiva]

Grazie, ragazzi! DC, great to see you on The Red Flags podcast! You’ve made even more fans I’m betting. Bravo!

[@rocket69218]

The best F1 pod by a mile, thanks David and Eddie.... legends.

[@ashleymoore1099]

Max for the title Ferrari for the championship race directors have zero common sense and the stewards have to much biast .

[@redpoll4628]

Someone doesn't like mclaren

[@Haarlemmer81]

​@redpoll4628 dude you call someone out and he doesn't say nothing bad about mclaren. More funny that you yourself hates on Max! Hypocrite.

[@daarom3472]

​@@redpoll4628its so weird. I even have McLaren merch and I really liked the team until summer. Zach, Andrea and Lando have been so insufferable since, only Oscar still has good PR.

[@ATEC101]

If only......Mika Hakkinen as race director, Kimi Raikkonen as steward, Heikki Kovalainen as rule book guru. Kimi will still just make rulings as one of the cleanest drivers ever. The team principals are more than welcome to argue with him, once.

[@katv1195]

Yes! No nonsense and utter by the book fairness. Sadly, it won't happen as the FIA is too Rule Brittannia and can't cope without some British senior officials

[@MysteriousFigure]

Kimi doesn't do PR so would be absolutely perfect, he'd just tell you how it is and not care one bit how the media see it, pretty clean driver as well and the drivers would trust him, Mika would be a good fit for race director and I could trust Heikki too, maybe it is three finns, but they'd get the job done - maybe get Sir Jackie in for Mika instead as he's been pretty sound too, plenty of options for past drivers who are very straight to the point and not messing around, but no, the FIA is a bumbling mess and so we get fantastic conflicts of interest like Herbert somehow getting to be race steward and then babbling on to a gambling site he's sponsored by for his opinions about the drivers...

[@claesund]

Let's hope that Verstappen would clinch the championship this weekend! I cross my fingers!

[@redpoll4628]

He probably will unfortunately

[@Haarlemmer81]

​@redpoll4628 why unfortunately are you a hater?

[@JaYb97716]

​@Haarlemmer81 he can only possibly be a woke lefty. An individual who believes what media throws at them and cannot think for themselves and zero common sense

[@pvstar1323]

​@@JaYb97716he's more like an idiot trumpist since McLaren is supported by Trump. That's why he wants Max to fail

[@nonegone7170]

@@Haarlemmer81 I don't think even Max wants to win his 4th in Las Vegas. He might not be saying anything about it in the media, but i'm pretty sure he hates the whole 'show' aspect to it, that's cranked to 11 in Vegas... But apparently american viewership counts are more important than good racing in F1, like a great many other things as well...

[@maskmagog99]

I must confess, before the FFS podcast, I wasn't an EJ fan. But there is substance behind the madness, who would have thought! :D Thanks to both of you for a very good podcast!

[@2Fast4Mellow]

Actually in 2023 Red Bull (P1) received 140 million dollar in price money, while McLaren (P4) still received 113 million dollar, making the difference between P1 and P4 27 million dollar. In late 2022 I spoke to a former marketing director for the Latin and South American market and he told the audience that Red Bull almost doubled the sales in those regions after Checo joined Red Bull. People often fail to realize how popular Perez is. Now Red Bull F1 surely would love to become constructor champion, but Red Bull is in F1 to sell cans of Red Bull, that is why they are known as the party team which became successful. Another big issue for Horner is that after Gasly, Alex and Perez, are we sure that if Perez would be replaced with let's say Lawson, he can keep up with Verstappen?

[@migueldelima9968]

I love Eddie Jorden.He speak his mind and speak the truth. 😊

[@slopat2503]

Great appearance on the Red Flags podcast David. I really enjoyed it.

[@dmedd2472]

I think someone like Ross Brawn would make a good Director! He seems to be straight talking & knows the rules better than anyone they've had after Charlie Whiting... I just hope they get it right this time, we should be talking about the race & not the decisions. It's as bad as Footballs VAR...

[@seanthompson258]

THE ONLY POTENTIAL PROBLEM FOR NEWEY AT ASTON IS THIS WHEN IS LAWRENCE STROLL GOING TO GET RID OF HIS SON AND PROMOTE HIM TO AN OFFICE JOB, WILL NEWEY STAND FOR THIS!!!??? EDDIE CAN YOU PLEASE ASK ADRIAN THIS QUESTION I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION!!

[@Cloxxki]

Masi made many errors in 2021, but most were very favorable to Hamilton, so the media didn't care.

[@senilestix]

Glad to see you guys talking candidly and open with the gloves off.....LIKE IT SHOULD BE! New subscriber!

[@chrispig7748]

Love listening to these two! Massive knowledge and very entertaining! Thanks DC and EJ!

[@bhillson]

Love you two ❤ keep up the good work

[@Anthony-z7b3v]

Could you tell us if Damon Hill was sacked please. If so,why ?

[@qwj68boots]

According to Cameron, a Podcaster, who informed Peter Windsor on their shared podcast, it seems DH had some remarks about Max Verstappen that didn't go over too well with Sky Sports. They believe his remarks would not be admired thus, the axe. That is more or less what Windsor shared on his podcast, not viewing Sky coverage.

[@ACMEpowersports]

Because he couldn’t keep his overly nationalistic views against non British drivers to himself.

[@JC-lu4se]

@@ACMEpowersports No. He just said what every non-Max fanboy is thinking.

[@PeterPost-w8m]

He was sacked because his bias and especially his hate towards Verstappen became too annoying for the viewers. A lot of the subscribers left, they were completely fed up with this guy. Crofty will be the next one, but he can finish this season.

[@Anthony-z7b3v]

He was sacked because he said it how it was, and not like these woke snowflakes who are afraid of their own shadows.

[@Redlingstein]

Jonathan Wheatley KNOWS ALL THE RULES…. He would be a great race director!!! Maybe after his Team Principle job at Audi sometime….

[@dmedd2472]

I like the sound of Vettle being Race Director, that's a good call, well said whoever put his name forward in the comments...

[@Rob2]

When I read a part of the F1 rules at a time there was some controversy, I was astonished at how badly written they are! They bear the signs of year after year of amendments, they really should be re-written from scratch. And when doing that, attention should be paid to having a default paragraph in every rules section that covers all unforeseen cases and describes what to do, either some fair action or the possibility of a decision by the race director. E.g. in case of the penalty for replacing components, there should always have been a rule that says that under unforeseen circumstances the race director can decide not to apply a penalty. That could have been used in the case of Sainz who had to replace car components as a result of colliding with a drain cover, a mistake by the track builders not by him or his team. But the rules were not written to allow it.

[@ronfrancois]

Spot-on EJ The F1 schedule is as dull as dishwater. No momentum and lacks consistent excitement. A slow drag. Ferrari made a mistake in losing Sainz, and Mercedes missed an opportunity to bag a proper pro contender.

[@peterschatz6093]

Great Show! BTW- the compliance officer got fired as well. So whoever isn’t in line with the fia president just gets fired. But the good news is- F1 doesn’t need the FIA to run the show. They can do it without FIA as well and nobody could forbid them to race.

[@F1WilliamsJeff]

What about this idea. The stewards get a video feed off the incident and the cars they are looking at are fully digital or digitally altered so they only see a black car and a white car. They don’t see teams, don’t see helmets or anything else. Just 2 cars or maybe more that had an incident and now you can decide. Give a penalty if you feel necessary and if it is not by the book. But you cannot see which car it is so you are never clouded with prejudice.

[@jnijborg]

What do you think guys, would Vettel be a good candidate for being race director?

[@Snaakie83]

At least he has more integrity and intelligence than the current lot of billionaires.

[@fintonmainz7845]

Absolutely NOT.

[@rogerjohnson6676]

Spot on as usual gentlemen. I’ve always appreciated this shows forthright opinions.

[@andremeyer9230]

Well done guys! Excellent chat. Cape Town.

[@TheDreamCatcher0007]

Love the podcast! Keep up the good work.

[@BonteBampton]

David and Eddie you are amazing, the truth you both talk is great. The sport really needs you both

[@John.17.3]

David, you need an upgrade so your video is as clear as Eddie’s video. I do you have a soft blur filter to hid the wrinkles? BTW I really enjoy your frank conversations that comes from actual racing & F1 experience.

[@dankorolyk5917]

Brilliant conversation as usual!

[@forumshawaii]

I love watching you guys.

[@janiceclayton3538]

Great podcast guys! Love your opinions 💪🏽

[@CT37BN]

Kimi Raikkonen and Sebastian Vettel would be great race directors I reckon.

[@ecilaagguman5958]

yall are slowly but surely becoming my fav podcast 😗

[@andrewfwallace4582]

The best podcast anywhere,

[@PeterKKraus]

Tractor Supply was one of the ads during this video. 😬

[@Jimbo-t2h]

Brilliant show as always. Thank you!

[@justmethenetherlands2218]

The car should only meet a few requirements, all requirements for safety. Furthermore a budget cap and in terms of racing rules a maximum of 1 A4. Regardless of the weather just always drive. Then they should adjust the speed and the car. The public pays to see a race. And every race 4 pit stops so that drivers drive less calculated.

[@1992jamo]

Did he forget that the manhole cover was literally ripped out of the ground with the liner still attached? It wasn't just the manhole cover, it was the entire bloody thing! You could weld as much as you want.

[@RacingRam13]

Did anyone else noticed how scared Eddie was of saying anything negative about Mohamid? I’d bet they are some kind of business partners

[@nollienick1121]

Loving that I found this. Two icons who don’t hold back. Fia pres is off his head, no swearing is just wild.

[@clivefrear1784]

Too many rules, rules open to ambiguity… keep it clear and simple and make sure all involved with enforcing them know them inside out.

[@roversberg]

checo out..liam in...bottas to liam's "old" place and when liam doesn't deliver,switch him with bottas.

[@Klont123]

RB wants a team player, they don’t need someone not willing to give up position to Max. Liam comply possibly, and Bottas has been there before and doesn’t need it again.

[@charlesgarcia4660]

I finally disagree with both EJ & DC. Dubai is a terrible end to the season. That track is extremely boring everytime, the only interesting finish was 2021 but not because the track is any good Interlagos is a proper circuit to finish on. Dramatic, room for overtakes and more down to the drivers than cars

[@Redlingstein]

Abu Dhabi not Dubai

[@charlesgarcia4660]

@Redlingstein my mistake, point stands tho

[@uriuruiru]

Money weight most i guess

[@Twin540i]

9:15, “I can’t predict, I’ve got balls, but none of them is crystal”. Sebastian Vettel

[@richardlawton1023]

EJ YOU NEED TO BE THE RACE DIRECTOR!!!

[@jeroencaspers9038]

God i love Eddie & DC and the rawr gets me instantly into the mood of FFS. I am so happy it stuck around great stuff Eddie

[@clivesymons853]

You guys are the best. Keep it up

[@Time4utube]

Great show f1 knowledge

[@samsonlovesyou]

Best F1 podcast.

[@Anonymousones1]

Eddie Jordan’s is great 🙏🏻 this is one of my favourite podcasts I look forward too Dave is ok to 😊

[@PlayFloyd_IN]

I watched F1 from 1997 till 2017. Ever since, I at times only watch the highlights, as Alonso and Hamilton are still on the grid, who are 2 of of my favourite drivers of all time across all disciplines. I stopped watching simply because the cars turned into tractors, DRS, departure from the loud engines of the past in the name of 'efficiency', Monaco still being on the grid despite it being on of the worst tracks for decades, and FIA being one of the most bureaucratic and corrupt sport governing bodies I have ever come across. I have watched the episode thus far only for 3 minutes, and I'm quite sure I know what Eddie is going to say in detail, simply because he has been saying the same thing for over a decade now publicly and not much has changed. Instead, things seemingly have only regressed. Such a shame.

[@zahraali4326]

Love you both, may I request an episode where you tell us about yourselves? Your past, present, future aspirations? Or a link to the episode if it's already happened?

[@14Unow]

Teams should be allowed as many chassis and engines per seasons as they wish without penalty. No DRS rubbish and one tyre choice only per race. Racing would be lot better, and show would improve no end. Current rules strangle the teams, performance and the people working in the sport.

[@daniedevilliers-q5l]

EJ we listing to U and DC, U guys some of the F1 people talking sense !!!!!

[@alanperry8676]

Carlos Sainz’ penalty was a stewards decision, not a race director action. I disagree with the decision and can point out the clause in the rules that should have been applied.

[@PhantomMark]

What they need is no overtaking rules, no fake DRS, no pit to car radio, gravel and grass on the exits of the corners etc...then we wouldn't need all these BS rules !!

[@policethatmoustache89]

EJ for FIA Pres, Seb for race director 😎 the way the sport would change for the better....!

[@carisi2k11]

Why do I feel like Wittich was fired because Mercedes and Mclaren were unhappy with recent findings about there cars being illegal while Red Bull's was legal.

[@Aeropunk08]

We need a Magic: The Gathering player on the race direction team. We know rules and regulations like no-one else 😂

[@justjordyn5382]

Are you autistic by any chance? 😂 Absolutely agree! I've got an autistic friend who's an excellent MtG player, and in awe of his tactical skills. He'd be perfect for the job 😂

[@grantsutherland6798]

Yes rules are important but if we have good adjudicators, we dont have to have then becoming lawyers ffs!! Drivers have a right of appeal, and as long as there is no corruption or partisan behaviours, 2adjudicators should be able to use their discretion.

[@SilentEagl3]

I've had my love of racing rekindled this year. I didnt watch F1, I watched the 2024 LeMans 24 hours and subsequently joined the bandwagon watching the WEC (World Endurance Championship). It was refreshing watching proper racing with so many manufactures and teams in the mix. Teams all run a mix of experinced drivers and rookies who all have required time to drive. Stewards keep a hand off approach and only act when its a clear offense or saftey is of concern. Heck in the 6 hours of Spa this year race got red flagged and the stewards extended the race by the duration of the red flag. F1 does not need to dream up a sphisticated plan with regluations and politics. the WEC offers a great template F1 can use.

[@SilentEagl3]

Oh yeah you can even watch the races for free on KZbin two weeks after the race. Theres even a team of Women in LMGT3, the Iron Dames (yes they can race and theyre pretty good). Valentino Rossi races there too and hes bloody entertaining to watch. Yeah, I've really enjoyed the WEC this year.

[@f1fan112]

7:10 Eddie makes a good point about the race directors not seeming to know the rule book while Whiting did. I am wondering how much input the race directors these days had when it comes to WRITING the rule book. I am gonna take a guess that the reason why Whiting knew the rule book so well is because he wrote a great deal of it. I am gonna take a guess that everyone post-Whiting may have not had great input in writing the rule book.

[@richardlawton1023]

Vegas if far too late in the year. Temps are too cold

[@WEBBERSPADE]

Why don't race directors practice the job on high level I racing? And mature and refine their craft that way? Including having an open relationship with the drivers, for example, saying we will try the race with "X" new rule, or we will remove, or put less emphasis on "Y" rule. Then you can try out the rules on other categories even?

[@bobg1069]

You pulled your punches about the FiA Eddie, after calling out others for doing the same

[@adamshaw7191]

Eddie on Spin is so funny. He used to be the king of spin, he'd lie his head off to get what he wanted when he had a team and beyond.

[@MichaelCuthbertson-zl6in]

It is ABSURD that Ferrari had to pay for the damage, PLUS recieve a penalty to boot! Thank God the racing is great, otherwise I wouldn't be bothered watching it! The management is farcical!!🤪

[@AuslanIz]

I call DC or EJordan to be Race Director! You would make a really good for the sake of F1

[@eggplantrenew6804]

Best F1 Podcast !!!!!

[@techtipsuk]

I do like EJ I just wish he wouldn’t sit on the fence as much as he does.

[@tikkathreebarrels]

Gotta love a grumpy old man who knows he's right!!!

[@alanperry8676]

I wrote the book for the racing series that I am involved with. I still refer to the book.

[@tagquasar8791]

In this calculation about Perez youve left out the fact that he hasnt been able to in any way but the wrong way help or aid his teammate. And that he is preventing new blood to drive in F1, he is also already 34 years old...

[@techtipsuk]

Herbie works with Yamaha in World Superbikes

[@Tomsm8]

give me the job. i'll have that book memorised within a week. also, do we think david could afford a better camera?

[@85priesty]

It didn't work with Top Gear, but it'd if they change the platform (which they should) getting Collins, Coulthard, Izzy Hammond and Mike, or EJ might should be in the running. Apart from the the Throttle House guys, I hope Amazon do it properly...EJ definitely is better not being on his Top Gear stint. But both would probably if asked would so "nope". Hahaha

[@Haarlemmer81]

I hope soon Perez just announce his retirement and he wins the last race. But then Max needs to slow down.

[@ryuko275]

Why do they choose people who are not certified to officiate a major sport. It would be like an average Joe roughing a football game for the NFL.

[@Nariko96]

EJ has to become Race Director with Sebastian Vettel, Just immagine

[@Semvandenbrink91]

"well anchors" I see what you did there David

[@user-cg1oh4iw4g]

I can already tell from the into that DC is gonna be soooo uncomfortable

[@JohnWLewis]

Rarely agreeing with EJ, but Mercedes should have signed Sainz to replace Hamilton.

[@paulchrystie5460]

Race directors and stewards have to follow the letter of the law and refer to the rule book or the teams will sue. You can no longer rely on John or Gerry having historical knowledge. The teams are litigious and rulings have to reference the rule book. Sounding like Nigel Farage on this one Eddie

[@Alan.livingston]

Abu Dhabi might be a great closer if you are on the A list. For the punters it’s absolute garbage. Brazil is the place it should be for the man on the street.

[@methelincolnImp]

Billy actual quote was “the desire to be a politician, should bar you for life from ever becoming one” 😊