These Habs Man...

[@bobmatley]

What's incredible is Price would of likely won both games that is how good he was. Hopefully Fowler is our future top goalie.

[@Your_Role_Model]

Price masked the mediocrity to such a high degree. His retirement somewhat coincided with my permanent move to South Florida. I’ve fallen in love with the Panthers. They are exactly the kind of team I’ve wanted to root for all along. Skilled, gritty and a fuck you attitude that is unmatched. Not to mention, they score a shit ton of goals and are just so entertaining to watch. Unfortunately, I do not see Montreal ever getting there. The kind of players that chose to play in FLA, will never choose Montreal. Truth hurts.

[@dominik_9619]

​​@@Your_Role_ModelBro please, It's easy to be a fan of success. You are comparing Florida to a young rebuilding team with young coach. Some fans are such crybabies after a few bad games.

[@Your_Role_Model]

@@dominik_9619 that was not my point and you, like most of Montreal, continue to drink the Kool-Aid

[@dominik_9619]

@@Your_Role_Model cuz there was no point in your comment except u are glad u moved to a city with better and more matured nhl team. Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, Hutson, Xhekaj, Ghule, Laine those guys aren't mediocre. They are bad defensively rn but I think they would benefit from change in coaching in that aspect.

[@Your_Role_Model]

@ no I’m glad I stopped believing in the fables and I actually get to live in a real city. Montreal sports mirror the state of the city. Crumbling and lost. As far as “more matured”, Bill Zito has built this team through smart acquisitions, not the draft. Montreal can never.

[@megatone9139]

"Rebuild Purgatory" *Shows Buffalo Sabres* harsh… but true

[@marialachica16]

Welcome back Jonny, i've missed you these two weeks. I watched both Canadiens games (NYR & BOS) and I could see snippets of quality but they were few and far in between. I hope this core stays together for a while though, to give them time to actually work it out.

[@karlisklava6819]

I think it was Hockey Psychology that covered it in one of his videos? St Louis has come and said that he wants the Habs to start playing systems like the Panthers and other contenders, so they're ready to be on the right track when they finally develop fully. I put no blame whatsoever on him for the way they're playing honestly, they're just learning. Last year when they looked exciting they were playing a more 'free' style of hockey, and this year they're being asked to switch it up.

[@Alex_Eder]

Still crazy to me that the damn Florida Panthers are the blueprint for winning hockey now.

[@DrBdan8]

Ya I think it was Hockey Psychology (another great hockey channel, I remember hearing that. Hopefully this season is growing pains and it pays off in the future. I feel like they have too much good young talent to be this bad

[@TranslatedAssumption]

Are you serious, every cup winner becomes the blueprint for success the following season.

[@Your_Role_Model]

@@Alex_Ederwhy “damn”? You should be happy hockey popularity is growing

[@edenisburning]

Man, Michael Hage is looking pretty darn good for them over in the NCAA. He's tied with James Hagens for 1st in NCAA scoring amongst freshmen. Both have 17 points, but Hage has like 9 goals already.

[@lauig]

Yes, and Hagens has the 2 best linemates in all NCAA in Perreault & Leonard and a real good defense backed by Fowler. Don't get me wrong his passing/playmaking is totally elite but at least a good chunk of his points comes from the mastery of these two wonderkids.What Hage is doing carrying his line is more impressive to me. Both have a lot to improve defensively though, so i wouldn't expect Hage to join as soon as next season, might be best let him grow with this very good Uni of Michigan program for the full extent of these 2 years.

[@LordGrantius]

Its been hard, remembering the Patrick Roy posters on my wall, to watching Montembeault and Primeau... struggle. I shouldn't criticize professional hockey players, at their worst they have skills I could barely dream of, but lately I've been seeing a team that needs some work on fundamentals, especially in front of their own net.

[@lauig]

We have to mention the 2 very important pieces who got injured before the start of the season which spilled a massive cup of coffee all over the plans. (Sorry this gonna be a long comment) Number 1 is Laine, such a steady solid presence, even if he only performs at the level he's had in his later Colombus shifts, it's already a massive way to keep the puck in the o-zone, mobilize Ds etc which leads to tighter games. The second and, contrary to what many non-habs fans may think, THE most severe hinderance to the season is the year long absence of David Reinbacher. That kid is soo soo good defensively against any type of opposition (without even needing to be extra physical) he was getting real close to making the team right out of camp, pretty sure he wouldn't have spend much more than a month or so with Laval. Plus had he not been this close to being ready for the NHL when he joined Laval end of last season maybe Kovacevic wouldn't have been traded out so soon and David not being able to join now forces the team to play a D wether it's Guhle, Matheson or Struble on their weaker off-hand side every single night. This team is lacking one more super solid Right-handed D and they're hesitant to get one because Mailloux is still developping well with the Rocket (although still going through a few growing pains here and there) And then there's Primeau, we all thought he could do better. He can't. It seems the game's too fast for him. Next season, if not sooner, Dobes will back up Montembeault and it will be a clear improvement while Fowler, Miller (yet another real-sad long-term injury), Vecvanags, Volokhin etc keep honing their skills. You touched on Dach, some nights we see glimpses, it's getting there but it sure is a much slower and tremendously more frustrating process than anticipated.

[@lauig]

Lastly, there's some real strong positives I'll only highlight the one which is the most surprising after his shaky start, it's Arber Xhekaj as he's massively turned things around. In some games albeit in a slightly different role i'd dare say he played (much) better than Guhle although Kaiden's finally back to his favored left side.

[@timkitchen692]

Management has shown they have no interest in trying to compete even though they said they wanted to at the start of the year. The concept that Primeau isn't gone when it is almost guaranteed 2 soft goals against every night is proof of that. They don't have the talent to compete night in night out with ECHL goaltending which is the best Primeau can give you. The don't do something soon they will slow Montembeault's progress as well knowing he has no pressure or challenger for the #1 job. Primeau isn't even the 4th string goalie in the depth chart and at some point something has to give.

[@thundershock720]

idk our two best prospects Demidov and Reinbacher aren't even in the league yet, so sucking and adding another top pick isn't that bad

[@jamesvaranesi8221]

idk reinbacher has only 1 knee now, and demidov is another little pipsqueak to add to our team of soft pipsqueaks.... this year is really worrying me tbh, this is starting to look like a buffalo situation

[@JakeMontagne-z3n]

Let the boys pay out the year and figure there game together. We got a huge cap space next year and could potentially bring in something interesting. Were the youngest rostered team in the league. Msl may not be the number one coach but they could potentially bring in someone else and let him take the assistant role cause his development with players is elite. I think this years a loss with players figuring out their strides ( dach, newhook, laine ) but next year will be the year too look at.

[@chrismichaud2644]

i was also really exited for this season thought they would be alot better. Looking back now its not as surprising since loosing Kovecevich and Jake Alen and only adding Laine who hasent played and Dach with a -18 or something crazy huts. Primeau does not look NHL caliber Montambeau concidering the defence has been decent.

[@SuperMK1989]

I think as a habs fan, its just time to take a breath. What were the legitimate expectations coming into the season? I agree I expected some excitement and we're getting that in spurts. But primarily its inconsistency and defensive struggles, which is par for the course with a young team. I've been pretty fine with letting St. Louis have some slack, but you bring up a good point, and in thinking, would another coach get more from these guys? Perhaps, to probably. But thats just a feeling. Habs also have a pretty poor recent history with hiring and firing coaches too quickly and then having 3 on the payroll simultaneously. So maybe give it half the season and re-evaluate.

[@duncan4260]

Why I am happy with the Calgary rebuild. They are fairly consistantly competative in all but 3 blow out losses (others where close or ot). Older guys sticking around to mentor the young uns, a clear franchise player in Dustin Wolf 🐺 and now a huuuuuge amount of cap space to use. Much more fun to see the potential than the dire hell of san jose

[@Daiinkeh]

As a flames fan I am not excited about this team right now. They are refusing to accept the rebuild because at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter how you cut it, a rebuild means actually losing. The way we are going as of rn is being mid. Winning 4 in a row then losing 4 in a row. That is the worst possible situation you can be as a team. Being too bad to win but being too good to draft high. I hope we can actually “rebuild” and start losing games. The only thing I agree with what I assume you mean is I hope the losses are competitive and not blownouts. But at the end of the day I would rather have the latter than close wins and/or extra regulation losses. Those are the death by a 1000 paper cuts that will continue making this franchise be mid after. Especially since if we don’t fully commit to tanking/rebuild we will lose a great draft pick to Montreal.

[@sukoimig]

I'll panic if we are still struggling in 5 years. For the time being, we are nowhere near where we need to be to have a solid core, our Ds are too young, we only have 1 good goalie and the next ones are also too young. Last but not least, our second line center is either a struggling Dach who might fit better on the wing, Jake Evans who is at best a 3rd, most likely a 4th line center and Christian ''I win face-offs for 4,5 millions/year'' Dvorak. This team was always going to suck this year (and they will next year too). We need to keep drafting high, and after that, go to free agency. People have no patience in Mtl and as another commenter said, there are too many teams with stars in their prime in our division to have a chance right now. Time is on our side, we need to avoid the Bergevin's quick fixes like the bubonic plague.

[@Nimajneb42069]

5… years ? Including the multiple seasons before this? So you’re okay with a rebuild taking nearly a decade before you start being concerned?

[@sukoimig]

@@Nimajneb42069 Realistically, the rebuild began in 2022. The habs have been trash since the last cup in 1993, and even then they weren't anywhere close to being a powerhouse, big teams failing helped us win in 93. A big rebuild takes time, and has been badly needed. If, starting in 2027 we are not on a steep upper trajectory, we will have failed, but at least we tried. We have been mediocre at best, garbage at worst for decades. Rebuilding though the draft is long, painful, but necessary, the habs have never done that in my life and I'm passed 40. Free agency is not the solution for a canadian team, we are not an american team in the south with no taxes and way less media/fan pressure, so it's hard to attract stars.

[@Bdubsky]

There are just so many issues but at the same time, it feels like those issues can go away as soon as next year. Yeah they're playing awful this year and some guy's development paths are on the line but this just seems like a warmup year. With Dach losing a year, Reinbacher losing close to a year, Laine not playing much in the last 3 years, I mean, what do we want from them? Our vets were supposed to step up but they're just so bad. Goaltending can't steal games like they did last year and yes, there are some serious coaching flaws with Marty. Again though, what can they really do? The young guns in Laval need to develop down there, Dach needs time, Slaf needs linemates and again our vets are just tanking the team until they get traded. Can't rush anything right now. Yeah it's not pretty but real fans should have been prepared for that

[@generalimlerith8356]

I saw habs fans saying oh we’re ready now they need to realize rebuilds last a long time

[@JapaneseAmericanaJiuJitsu]

“Pre Celebrini Sharks Lottery team” broooooo why you gotta keep kicking my team in the head…😂😂😂

[@Dire-wuulf]

Laine scores in his first game back, Habs win 2-1 in OT the day after

[@chrishansen8477]

My only issues with MSL is so far is laying 5 LD, 2 on the wrong side every game, part of that is barron is pretty bad, but no worse than the rest of them. Still have too many MB holdovers

[@steadyAF]

Patty Laine with a snipe. Future looks bright.

[@JeanJames-ff3wx]

after seeing this video i dont think we should panic they could purposely tank for hagens just to bump suzuki as a C2 where he belongs but when we enter. year five there will be no excuse

[@shoKz2427]

guya its our last years of tank

[@Caniewaak]

I'm sort of unsure if I should even bring up the idea lest I breathe life into it, but... What if the problem's not the coach, it's the captain?

[@plataroo]

Nah Suzuki is highly respected and loved by his teammates, does well with the media and leads by example. Strong quiet confidence he’s an excellent captain. He also has Stanley Cup final experience and learned from Weber. He ain’t the problem don’t worry

[@Unsc-gq2rt15]

Problem with the habs is they dont have a elite franchise player. I know they have Suzuki, caufield, slafkovsky, hutson but when you are also in the same division as matthews, marner, kucherov, hedman,barkov, tkachuk, pastrnak all either in there primes or playing elite still, it just make things harder to take that next stop. It also alot more harder to gain in standings when you do a full rebuild when there are teams like the capitals for example that did a retool on the fly.

[@goofygull2424]

Caufield is currently rocking 16 goals fam

[@Unsc-gq2rt15]

@goofygull2424 Yes but that dosent mean he is elite. Can he become elite?yes but as for rn he is not. Same with Suzuki, slafkovsky and hutson. I think they will be great players but there not on the same level as barkov, kucherov, matthews, hedman right now.

[@R7U1LE]

FREE DEMIDOV FREE DEMIDOV

[@MrSh4des]

​@Unsc-gq2rt15 leading league scoring on the worst team in the league is elite i dont care what anybody says.

[@Unsc-gq2rt15]

@MrSh4des I'm not saying he can't be, but my point is as of right now the Atlantic has atleast 3 cores that have atleast 2 elite players on those teams, and not to mention you have kuch and matthews in there primes and are top 5 players rn. I like Suzuki and slafkovsky but there are not even on the same level as Nylander as of right now and alot of people don't consider Nylander elite. In order to be elite, you need to be consistent. As long as Tampa, Toronto, Florida cores always produces, none of the bottom feeding teams won't move up unless they outperformed one of those teams.

[@samuelc1817]

Bring Primeau down to the ahl

[@rockjf]

ECHL

[@ShawnBlaque]

That quote before the Bruins game is perfect lmao followed by getting slapped 😂

[@faunbudweis]

Primeau has been brutal.

[@thomaspetrie574]

TRUST THE PROCESS 🙏🙏

[@paulprendergast3184]

How could you not recognize that they have no decent centers beyond Suzuki? Thinking they'd be competitive with their centers was a delusion.

[@dominik_9619]

Most montreal players are fine. The ones Im not sure about rn are: Matheson, Dach, Newhook, Primeau. Gally and Anderson are doing better than last season. Heineman looking better every game, Hutson too. Slaf is ok, still very young and a lot of potential. Xhekaj is good on both sides, but needs more nhl confidence, Ghule too, Savard is good. There aren't bad players. If Laine will recover good they could step up. Im not a big fan of Newhook, He is fast but other small players like Suzuki, Hutson, Caufield have something more than him. Fully recovered Laine, someone big, strong and fast instead of Newhook. Someone more reliable than Matheson and they'll be there.

[@brandensimmons653]

This is year 2 of the Rebuild so Habs Fans had to be patient Montreal will rise again

[@nukeshock7305]

This is year 4

[@xguy5]

This is year 30 💀

[@Nimajneb42069]

Habs and sens fans keep giving their teams the benefit of the doubt despite 0 improvement year over year. There needs to be a point where you’re not rebuilding you just suck with the guys you’ve brought up and need to rebuild again from nothing. As a leaf fan we did this for most of my lifetime so I get it lol

[@cacamou3275]

Yo dude, i just noticed your channel aint called johnny anymore, whys that?

[@philips2327]

he made a video about it in late august/early September, that it was for respect for gaudreau shortly after his death

[@cacamou3275]

@philips2327 ooooh that makes sense thanks dude

[@bondjames652]

Keep playing Slavkosky 1st PP with a career minus 39. 👏 👏 👏

[@JeanJames-ff3wx]

yes and also keep playing corner bedard on 1st pp with a carrer minus 54 👏👏👏👏

[@zynplusbeer]

I love Kirby. The hockey gods just are not on MTL’s side as of late

[@charlesdb7001]

This team is still lacking talent, but it will be much better soon when we have Demidov, Laine, Hage & our 2025 first round pick in the line up

[@pellS25]

I think if we started by putting Primeau in waivers, getting laine back, Dach on the 4th line and Matheson at more 19 min TOI, we would see an improvement, but that's just my opinion from watching all the games this season

[@Jack-lz9ft]

They will be find

[@chrisxavier3147]

We have actually regressed

[@jameskritikos6838]

MSL, while I love and appreciate what he has done for the Habs since his arrival, I think is starting to hurt the development of this team. Pairing offensive dmen with each other and stay at home defencemen with each other. Lines with 3 bigger guys and other lines with 3 small guys together. Playing Hutson waaaaay too much and not "spotting" him in spots to allow him to succeed. Stripping Xhekaj's aura/image has been mismanaged.Might be time to get a pro coach in there. These guys are men now. Time to start treating them like men. Hope I am wrong. If I am not, he has to go quickly.

[@jkfactor]

Hudson needs to defend. He’s a DEFENSEMAN!!

[@car-mazing]

For the size he is and the fact that this is his first full season, he's doing an amazing job and shows a lot of determination. Maybe look at Matheson the pylon who's not only a defenceman but also the alt captain, why doesn't he know how to defend? He gives away the puck left and right.

[@joydjinn8692]

He's our second best D-men defensively after Guhle.

[@joydjinn8692]

I've got a easy fix for you guys. Just watch the Rockets instead. They're a way more passionate and entertaining team. Just give them a try.

[@adamCarter20]

This is gonna be a VERY long rebuild, 5-6 years until we even come close to the playoffs, Suzuki will waste his prime years here, same as Caulfield.

[@Hudson31-v8f]

First

[@xguy5]

Permanent Habs rebuild💀

[@bug0811]

Remember all the mtl fans saying they were making the playoffs this year? I sure do

[@joydjinn8692]

Literally nobody said that. lol

[@bug0811]

@ lol I have 5 screenshots from Twitter of habs fans convinced they are making the playoffs

[@joydjinn8692]

@@bug0811 That's like 2% of the fanbase and you'll find that 2% in every teams. Why are you complaining about the Habs specifically?

[@romulus9990]

Almost like that cup run was a fluke..🤷‍♂️

[@yuranisbismelly2830]

I would rather cheer for the Calgary flames. They have Sharangovich and Mangapain in their roster just add more number 2 center and they ll be fine

[@monkefard2869]

at this point i think we have to look at marty. i love him but his decision arent great the vets arent doing anything on the team so bring in younger players that can make a difference. he keeps putting matheson on pp1 when hutson makes pp1 5x better and hes stuck on pp2 with armia and gallager

I TURN IT OFF REGULARLY,THEY PISS ME OFF,IF I DO THIS AT WORK ...THEY FIRE ME.

[@michaelsaville9985]

Either their scouts or player development take the short bus to the rink because the amount of top 5 drafted players they have and still being this bad is embarrassing for the only franchise that pre-dates the league they play in. 🫥

[@Lucky1x]

Who are the other top 5 drafted players besides Slafkovsky and Dach (who wasnt drafted my montreal)?

[@michaelsaville9985]

Suzuki but he went 13th overall to Vegas so I really should have said top 10 💁‍♂️

[@Lucky1x]

@@michaelsaville9985 I think the issue is that in the last two drafts, where they drafted high, those players haven't joined the team yet, so they're not really that different from 2021-22 minus a few vets

[@vespixx]

@@michaelsaville9985 demidov is in the khl and reinbacher is injured but sure ALL the top 5 ahahahah, clueless