These Kind of Tail Whips Make Me Love Alien - Dead by Daylight

[@Wulfjager]

I can extrapolate from that title that scott loves it when alien works that tail

[@RpTheHotrod]

Just whip it. Whip it good.

[@ghostflame9211]

Shake. That. Tail for me. Shake that tail for me 🎵

[@deadhelix]

9:28 I was thinking I was just dumb till I started seeing memes about it, and now even scott showcased theres so many endurance perks and addons that it feels like you can’t tell where tf the endurance came from

[@erod1784]

Fuckin preach people just able to take extra hits out of no where it seems like

[@RpTheHotrod]

4:15 thats just the audio notification that you're back into crawler mode.

[@Purple_Puffin]

Xenomorph when ceno-bite walks it: 🤯

[@doug2555]

This killers zoning is mad good

[@taneli5026]

The fact that the tail is just there as a *threat* without telegraphing an attack is amazing.

[@xmangle5382]

I think they actually finally found a way to make a M2 without free zoning

[@pukerat7562]

The zoning is extra good because even if you miss an M2 it doesn’t matter because you barely slow down and your recovery is so fast that survivors can’t make it anywhere. Every interaction survivors can have with this killer is just a lose/lose.

[@coffee296]

@@pukerat7562mad cause bad

[@reaper8264]

@@pukerat7562 exactly it feels like half the pallets on most maps are super unsafe against him.

[@lordcasuel2599]

I managed to break down how the tail attack works, it's like nemesis with his hit boxes but instead of 5 fixed hit boxes that start from top to bottom when triggered, xeno has 1 tail hit box that can be aimed up and down and it stays activated for 1 second before triggering, basically as soon as you press the key to go for a tail attack it's active, the hit box extends behind you so you aiming it can be a little tricky

[@rhymenoceros3303]

I feel like people are severely underestimating how good the new Alien perk that allows you to see the furthest hurt survivor really is. The fact that it makes them oblivious and works at any distance (furthest means that even if the person is like 2 feet away, you'll still see them) makes it really good on Alien in particular thanks to their map traversal. I've had a blast using that perk and don't really understand why people aren't talking about it more.

[@markmorgan5819]

Cause bbq does more 90% of the time

[@Thisisnotasign]

Because 99% of the time BBQ gives you the same if not more info. If someone is actually injured and around the guy you are hooking they are a fucking moron and you are likely going to hear/see them/already know about them without the perk. The oblivious is a non factor unless you are a blight/nurse/xeno cause it will run out most of the time before you can get to them. Don't get me wrong there are some times where you get value, but when you need to cherry pick specific maps + scenarios you can make almost any perk look good. TLDR its not a "Bad" perk its just not a "Good" perk.

[@dodang_9147]

@@Thisisnotasign agree. if you want good tracking perk. use ultimate weapon. not useless alien perk.

[@chasegreaser1166]

I wouldn't listen to any people that saying it's not good they're too much tied to what is meta there's no getting through to them

[@Peachrocks5]

All of Xenomorphs perks are good imo or at least usable in a niche/funny way. As for BBQ vs. Alien Instinct BBQ I do think is better. The counter to BBQ is hide in a locker which also works against this perk. However BBQ catches 3 targets (if they are far enough away) and not all 3 may make it to a locker. Not to mention anti aura reading like distortion. If you hit the guy with distortion you are unlikely to get any value. However I believe this perk is more fun and has synergy with any killer who can get around the map quickly and/or really benefits from oblivious. Wesker might really make good use of it because he gets around fast and normally has a massive terror radius. It is a risk running it over BBQ though.

[@honkbrother8000]

"End video here" and he actually ended the video right there was gr8 lol

[@hinney827]

Those drag-down hits over rocks should absolutely not be possible.

[@sapphicseas0451]

Hits like this are why i love playing nemesis, its so satifying

[@SomersBugtopia]

demogorgon but black?

[@Asura-vj3wn]

Kinda right, but BRUH

[@DickJohnson96]

its demogorgon if he played basketball

[@PistolSlinginMothMan]

Well, [my lawyer has advised me not to continue with this joke]

[@MasterFustache]

I mean yeah but you can't just say it like that 😅

[@KozyGamer15]

Was gonna say a better Nemesis

[@glaive616]

Where is the hitpoint on the tail ? Centre of the screen ?

[@ghostflame9211]

STBFL is pretty awesome on him. Once I learned that even in runner mode xeno can basic attack (but not kings I think), it’s easy to get stacks and preserve them. At least that’s my opinion, maybe others will say something else

[@j0hnicide]

yes it's even better on xeno than on nemesis, because you just hit without any need for infection

[@Skillfulstone]

Honestly, Xeno doesn't get quite as much value from STBFL as Killers like Nemesis or Demo since Survivors can just take away her power with a single well-placed turret. I honestly use "Jack-of-all-trades" builds on Xeno. Discordance (for prioritizing and to take maximum advantage of tunnels), Nowhere To Hide (because aura-reading is awesome), Ultimate Weapon (because even _more_ info is always good _and_ they can't nullify it with Distortion), the last perk is usually some kind of reliable slowdown (Overcharge, CoB, Oppression etc. Imo Pain Res doesn't make the cut because of the limit of 4 uses) since Xeno doesn't have any built-in slowdown and counters to Hold W gaming. I'm really hoping we get a Predalien skin at some point (maybe next tome? BHVR usually makes tomes based on previous chapters, although tomes/Rifts tend to mostly contain recolors). I _love_ the Queen skin but it's basically "Pay-to-Lose" since the Xeno almost doubles in size and is even more useless at stealth than before XD.

[@yoohoo236]

The larger size messes up people's flashes, I've seen so many survs aim too high

[@gachispy]

You don't really need more than 4 stacks of pain res, and how tf are OC, CoB and oppression even remotely reliable?

[@CeaerCeaer]

The thing is STBFL isn’t good on alien, demo, or Nemo. All these characters use their M2’s far more than their M1’s. Especially demo 90% hits should be shred

[@Skillfulstone]

@@gachispy It's the whole reason why I run Nowhere To Hide alongside those (although Oppression has a cooldown that's a tad too long to be a standalone slowdown) because It's the perfect perk to push away Survivors hiding nearby to jump right back on the gen to prevent regression.

[@TrueCarthaginian]

True to his roots, Scott adheres to the Fashion Souls lifestyle. It's worth the gameplay disadvantage to look extremely cool. Also predalien is dumb and those movies suck.

[@TrueCarthaginian]

That queen skin is absolutely insane.

[@FlipflopB]

This is the first dbd content I’m seeing from any big creators and it’s so weird. I’ve been looking all day and there’s nothing. Only some on twitch

[@Somenewssomenotsonews]

I'm pretty sure it's cause the PTB is too long so the hype passed basically a month ago

[@kaidenb.7299]

@@Somenewssomenotsonewsthis is ptb still?

[@entercorz6661]

Yeah, and I feel like most dbd content creators are playing tcm

[@knightsofsumeria]

King Wolf, quiet kills, Scott jund, red, d3ad, henz, and otz are all good DBD KZbinrs

[@JP-pl6xh]

I noticed that too, I thought there would be at least an otz video today but I, guess he just wanted to stream today. I'm not complaining tho, that just means he'll have more clips to choose from for his next upload

[@chloen4337]

been using darkness revealed, iron maiden, the xeno locker perk and monitor, addons destroy turret if it kills my crawler and harpoon. been working well for me but I'm at mid mmr, would be interested to know how it works at higher mmr. if you have the time!

[@thedoomslayer5863]

No gen slowdown so no. At higher mmr u NEED gen slowdown or gens will be done instantly

[@vladspellbinder]

11:09 I'm rather sure they are both usually closed every game. It is the inner upper floor doors which vary. Thanks for the video Scott.

[@dbdstuff]

The whips seem easier to control

[@avocado9999]

nice that they changed the chase music

[@2154_]

probably increase your mouse sense / dpi with tail whips for precise hits, seems it’s hit box is more versatile if you aim it quickly than not

[@MrBulletBulletBullet]

a video of me getting shit on, lovely haha I did have the new perk on btw (Ace), gg's Scott!

[@James_Philip915]

Alien mobility is crazy good and with good info. Chase a little weak though, till people learn some techs ofc.

[@TroyVandyke]

It's been feeling a bit oppressive to me and my friends we think it's just better to change to tcm after 6 years of trying to stick with this game its really all the same with every patch killer needs to be figured out to even play vs them since ptb is for PC only instead of console and he is just as annoying with his tail whip as nemesis whip when you linger it. Game has felt so stale for so long and now with an actual real contender from a group of people that had the right mindset just dying franchise I think dbd could be on its heels if it keeps mass producing the same recipe with the hope a legacy name can earn them cash.

[@Sheridan2LT]

​@@TroyVandykeBruh, if you're burnt out on DbD that's fine but realize this Killer has VERY simple counterplay.

[@husaini8009]

​@@TroyVandykewhat's the relation between you being burnt out on the game and the OP's comment?

[@pukerat7562]

I don’t know how weak the chase could be when you have free zoning that invalidates every pallet and window and has virtually no punishment for missing.

[@JustaJunkie438]

“Weak chase” when it’s literally a free hit at any unsafe loop no matter how many times they miss the cooldown lets them get a hit anyways unless the killer is actual trash

[@knightsofsumeria]

I'm surprised no one is using Grid's skin for xeno. Grid was a badass Xenomorph

[@Ouroboros619]

It's a good skin, but that Legendary is in another category altogether

[@JP-pl6xh]

Grid is super awesome, but when the other options are between the towering xenomorph queen herself and the absolutely horrifying abomination, the clone, I can understand why the grid skin gets overlooked.

[@ghostflame9211]

I’m def getting the grid over the queen. The queen’s size alone is enough to deter me, but more important since she is in the game now, it makes me even more sad that there wasn’t any face hugger aspect of the killer power. Meanwhile the grid looks awesome, like “yeah I got hurt bad and I’m still about to whoop your ass” and gives me hope someday that the real predator is coming to dbd and we won’t have to settle for the mid merchant

[@jeang6588]

Wait a minute Xenomorph is out?! KZbin is either not showing any new content in the recommended, or nobody has uploaded anything

[@KittyBabyMan]

the ace at 5:00 was a trooper

[@MrBulletBulletBullet]

had background player on and didnt take into account the ping difference kekw

[@atrozzorta9602]

This match is a perfect example of why killers have higher than 50% kill rates and why that doesn't make the game "killer sided". Always makes me laugh seeing survivor mains crying about how the game is killer sided because of BHVR aiming for a 60% kill rate on killers (and not successfully pulling it off) but then you see games like this and it all makes sense. The first death was at 10:35 the match started 11s into the video. So it took Scott 10mins and 24s to get a kill and in that time the survivors only did 3 generators. A singular survivor can do a gen in 90s sans perks, add-ons, tools, and great skill checks. So a single survivor without having to travel (which is a decent portion of time but hard to calculate) takes 450s to do all the generators and the first death was in 624s. 6pop 4painres were used before the first kill, so let's just assume for the sake of the survivors that all 4 painres got 25% that's 100% or 90s added to the time they needed to do and we will use 75% for every pop, which if anything an overestimation, and 75% of 90s is 67.5 and pop does 30% of that which is 20.25s per pop and there were 6 for a total of 121.5s added to the total. So a single survivor needed to do 450s + 90s + 121.5s = 661.5s of generator repairs and the first kill was at 624s. That is what a SINGLE survivor needed to do, now if you divide that into three or two you really start to wonder how the survivors lost this match. Edit: just realized I forgot to add the 3.5% (I think it's 3.5%) baseline pop that killers have. Although it would've been a really smart amount of time considering it applies after pop and it's only 3.5%, but if I did the math on it correctly it was ~10s. This was a really long comment just for me to say "If you lose a game of DBD as survivor it's almost always the fault of the survivors". I'm just really sick and tired of seeing people not using their time effectively and then complaining about how the game is killer sided and I thought this would be a decent game to prove that point as it was a pretty long game. But the survivors might not have been trying to win as much as they wanted to be chased considering Alien is new. All in all, the new HUD sucks because I can see how little my teammates are doing and people need to learn to use their time more effectively or not complain about the balance of the game. If anyone reads this and finds any mistakes in my math please let me know. P.S. I do play both sides, actually a bit more survivor than killer because I find survivor way more relaxing. I have over 1k hours as well.

[@bobcatsjoe8891]

Wouldn't that make the new hud good? I would like to know if my teammates are just mucking around

[@blakedudley4692]

I was one of the surv this game. We lost cause we played poorly. And it was all our first game against xeno. Just checking out killer interactions

[@atrozzorta9602]

@@bobcatsjoe8891 Matter of opinion. I find myself killing myself on first hook a lot more now with the new HUD because I see how little my teammates are doing. I complained about the HUD when it was first announced because I expected it to do exactly what it has done for me. I always assumed my teammates were doing very little and now I can see that at all times throughout the game.

[@atrozzorta9602]

@@blakedudley4692 Fair enough and that was something I said too. With Alien being brand new there is the chance that you and the other survivors weren't trying their hardest to win and were just interacting with the new killer.

[@foxygrandpa5064]

Chase music fixed?

[@fenn8422]

They should add turrets against 3gen skull merchants too

[@bobcatsjoe8891]

Skull merchants 3 gen isn't that strong. She's barely stronger than trapper or hag at a 3 gen.

[@Azoz157_]

yes tail over rock very awesome

[@Seymore-e1l]

I havent escaped against him yet which is concerning because im worried he will be nerfed and as a killer main i would hate that

[@gigachirps4848]

i love alien so much, will probably be my new main

[@TheDaveCave_]

I still don’t understand what the yellow guidance line is

[@AgariBeast]

Helps you find the way a lot easier

[@Lucas11061]

just a marker to help navigate in the tunnels

[@timothybyrne7698]

Use dragons grip on Xeno 😂 works all the dang time.

[@knightsofsumeria]

With tail hits?

[@timothybyrne7698]

@@knightsofsumeria nope, hit the generator, sit in the tunnel and wait, come back out, get a free down.

[@Peachrocks5]

@@timothybyrne7698 You can do this with any killer using trail of torment + dragons grip provided there is a good spot to hide. Though I suppose the generator is yellow and gives away the strategy after the first time. Still, it's kinda true in general. I really like surveillance on Xeno (hell I use it on every kill but some just feel really good). You can hear generators from inside the tunnels and you know the very second they touch one and can go there quickly.

[@kattcantcat]

God I love alien lmao. Though when I played against her, the biggest indicator of when she was doing a tail attack was the noise before it, which I really don't like. Maybe I just wasn't looking enough, but it felt so visually minor compared to most (if not all) other killer powers. As a very visual-dependent person, it hurts a bit to know that :'>

[@exxon101]

Missing dead hard is a tech?

[@davidsmith3382]

as a fellow haver of fabio hair, it's pretty fuckin nice

[@hxpeful_demxn]

Is this live or is this still ptb?

[@zenerstorm95]

I haven't played this update yet, but the potential Windows nerf scares me as a Survivor main. I get that it's so that it matches Zanshin Tactics, but it still hurts slightly.

[@razerblaze070]

It didn't actually get nerfed it just says it like that for some bug reason now

[@5mech]

WHAT WERE THE PERKS

[@GreatestMKfighter]

I'm probably gonna eat my words on this for the next few games, but Xeno's map mobility really levels the playing field in terms of generator management. First time in a while where it doesn't feel like complete bullshit when a gen gets popped on the other side of the map.

[@TheWorstshoe]

And because you can get in tunnels right away and get power you really don't need lethal or corrupt which is a breath of fresh air

[@idontevenknowanymore2744]

My post will forever be here

[@SomersBugtopia]

reported for removal so you are forgotten forever

[@anidiot8845]

You will be forgotten

[@majickman]

Wrong. The rot consumes all.

[@joshkeller2671]

Is there even a point to the flame throwers? They don't even seem like a mild inconvenience.

[@Tosevite6622]

Killer detection and ripping them out of their tail attack making them an M1 killer for maybe half a minute

[@joshkeller2671]

@zackhamrick5621 killer detection maybe, but it rarely ever takes the killer out of his power before he just destroys it and even if it does its only for that chase most likely. Just seems like more of a hassle to set up than its worth

[@gamall_22]

@@joshkeller2671turrest are completely useless, expecially when killer runs anti-turrets add-ons, literally impossible to run out killer's power

[@joshkeller2671]

@dommassa2667 that's how I've been feeling just watching clips because I haven't gotten a chance to play yet. It seems like they wanted to avoid making the counter as strong as the emps for singularly and overtuned it to just be worthless.

[@thedoomslayer5863]

@@joshkeller2671 Yes dont use turrets, infact encourage other survs not to use turrets

[@noahcollins1211]

Hey can anyone tell me what they think of this killer idea I came up with The survivor is a girl who right before was in a house fire where her father died the killer is the vision of her father burning alive he moves like a shambling corpse screaming in agony fully engulfed in fire. His ability is he has to hide these burning corpses (which he spawns and throws down on the ground as if he were dropping a survivor) around the map that produce and area that if the survivors enter will slowly kill them from them gaining stacks of guilt (to make it not like skull merchant if they perform and action in these areas they gain a affliction called distracted because they'll be distracted from the guilt they won't begin to take any damage). But for the survivors to escape the match they must extinguish all the corpses and turn them into smoldering bodies (with a bucket of water or something) around the map. They can also do this during the trial but the killer can relight them by picking them up (just like a survivor at which they disappear till resummoned) or if they still want them in the same spot just smacking it and relighting it. However when exit gates are powered you can only relight a select amount before you become burnt out. Also it would look cool if all corpses where put out the killer was no longer engulfed in flame. And if the survivors fail to extinguish all corpses and try to exit the trail they are overcome with guilt and burn to death. I think it would be fun to have a killer who hides things that the survivors must complete to win but also giving the killer an area of control making it harder for survivors to hide (from their grief) in those areas. But definitely am trying to avoid making another skull merchant. Also his mori could be the survivor being ract with guilt and giving the killer a hug in which it hugs back leading to a fiery embrace.

[@thepigfromdbd8645]

That actually sounds pretty cool. I support it honestly

[@noahcollins1211]

@@thepigfromdbd8645 thank you so much

[@thelastgamer1]

Male survivors getting extra distance during the fast vault was crazy but since I only play as one female survivor that didn’t affect me but I liked getting the right distance from a window changing it back is lame instead of just fixing the problem with male survivors

[@thunderstorm2943]

7:43- 7:51 Scott takes a shit

[@ghouldonic]

1.54 i called this littie move out on stream tonight and I think its broke I wont spoil it because the longer it goes unnerfed the better but nice way to get power

[@cookiecreep9204]

I like alien, but good god do I hate being in chase 5 seconds into a game because all aliens run lethal pursuer. I barely notice what map I'm on, and I'm already chased.

[@manicmedusaprivate2913]

So interesting how different Dbd experiences can be 😸 Playing EU and I haven’t faced one Alien yet with Lethal Pursuer. They all had Sloppy Butcher though. If I had to choose I would use Lethal

[@Sokarera13]

I did a zubtech watching this video (watched it in the shower)

[@arcesmo]

wait, Scott said the vault changes were reverted??? really?

[@whymewm-identityv4584]

Yeah, you don’t get extra space after fast vaulting windows anymore

[@arcesmo]

@@whymewm-identityv4584 oh alright, but the hitbox doesn't "linger" behind like it used to, right? it still "matches" the hitbox like after the recent change

[@oscaro3977]

​@@arcesmothey had to revert it so I am not sure. They will make more changes on it soon.

[@iiiiiic9823]

Jank hitboxes 😊

[@Badboy20400]

I hit someone while they were falling down the massive the games drop

[@ZWallAbuser]

Xeno seems way too fast during his whip cooldown now imo

[@gamall_22]

Cooldown has been reduced from 2s to 1.2, so it's basically non existent when you miss an m2 attack

[@reaper8264]

honestly love the design of the killer but the tail whip seems a bit too strong since most pallets are unsafe and the fact is if you try to dodge his whip he can just m1 you is annoying to deal with since it removes the counter play of hey try to dodge this, like if Nemesis could do that and not suffer a movement speed penalty he would be leagues above most killers.

[@shtwayft6448]

nemesis can break pallets

[@reaper8264]

@@shtwayft6448 yeah so can Billy, wesker, and legion

[@reaper8264]

@@shtwayft6448 but hey ig that means their op should be nerfed.... like Xeno makes almost every pallet unsafe, you're punished for looping a pallet, you're punished for pre-dropping a pallet, and you're punished if you have to vault it..... Like why make another unfun killer to go against?

[@Tobyjmister]

​@@reaper8264 too real, they make these killers because theyre noob friendly, nemesis and this killer practically require zero skill just walk to pallet, right click, you win. at least if nemesis misses you have time to run to another loop or get distance

[@reaper8264]

@@Tobyjmister ye nemesis has things where it’s a game of dance while xeno is just get fucked for ever thinking you were safe in 80% of the loops

[@late8gaming787]

Don’t cut your hair it’s perfect the way it is

[@dunderbutt5386]

yeah i was a little baffled by that, i personally don't even consider that to be long

[@Enzo-ym6cf]

Xeno is as fun as it's trong (a lot) Finally a good release,

[@andrewthomas8687]

Have too long hair for a guy??? Are we in the 1960s LOL

[@themr_wilson]

The tail needs JUUUST a hair longer delay before getting thrown. Maybe 0.2 second more, but it's a fun killer to play and face. After the last few, a good killer was sorely needed

[@EatYOuRNuGGeT]

Alien is everything i dislike about anti loop. His tail is literally just nemesis with a slight redesign that's equally unfun to vs.

[@MrvTwisted]

Really cool killer but so broken 😂

[@thepigfromdbd8645]

Its too early, shush

[@watchmehope6560]

Skill issue

[@alexthecreature]

mommy gameplay

[@bludhuuntr4946]

Grandpa stabs when?

[@pukerat7562]

You can tell they massively overtuned Xenomorph from the PTB because Scott’s happy.

[@JustaJunkie438]

Yeah his missed whip has basically no cooldown if you’re at an unsafe pallet or dead zone there’s nothing you can do even if he misses 10 times, “just use the turrets” except that they don’t even stun him out of his power half the time and he can get it back so quickly, no idea why they changed it from the ptb I played and it felt way more fair and balanced before

[@scrapinator8898]

​@@JustaJunkie438use turrets better then.

[@JustaJunkie438]

@@scrapinator8898 bro even as killer before it felt fair. It’s just easy mode now turn off your brain. If you’re close enough to the survivor it’s free zoning and if they get close to you or try to juke you just m1. You can get back the power in seconds with the teleporters so not having it for a few seconds isn’t a big deal

[@gamall_22]

@@JustaJunkie438yea this killer takes 0 skill to use, just spam m2 until you hit a surv since you gain 0 cooldown from missed attacks

[@ScottJund]

I actually don't think they should have buffed his missed hit movespeed

[@redcell9636]

the Xenomorph kinda, doesn't make nay sense to me for DBD, cool concept, but it just takes me away from the gaming as a huge fan of the Alien(s) franchise.

[@Emeowy]

Cat

[@zeporion6091]

What dev keeps saying "let's make the counterplay completely remove the killer's chase power" I would like to know

[@theurbanreanimator7244]

Completely remove, yeah, not like they can get it back

[@stevsux4442]

Probably one that understands there's already a good number of killers with consistent power scales and chase ability so they're desperately trying to create some variety in a game they aren't passionate about that's part of a genre they've basically been defining as they go. But that's just a shot in the dark it's also possible the devs just hate the role you play and want you to be angry

[@zeporion6091]

@@theurbanreanimator7244 just abandon chase or chase as an M1 killer ninehead

[@zeporion6091]

@@stevsux4442 you say this ironically as if it isn't true

[@wtfisthishandleshit]

​@@zeporion6091 if you dont want to abandon chase or become an m1 killer just dont let the turrets burn you out of your power 🤷‍♂️

[@SKULLKNIGHT_]

3st

[@Picymeatball6897]

When i saw the thumbnail i thought that it was artist from how the aliens hand looked

[@gamall_22]

Facing the Xeno is tremendously obnoxious imo

[@thedoomslayer5863]

If u didnt like nemmy u wont like xeno

[@xenoman6158]

He's actually one of, if not my favorite killer, to go up against.

[@theepicone1605]

HAVE FUN PLAYING TRASH DBD SCOTT, WHILE EVERYONE ELSE IS GETTING READY FOR THE NEW TCM KILLER. DBD IS LIKE A PLAYDOUGH CARTOON.🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@VenturesBoyToy]

Fortnite goated emote

[@masonsucksatwriting1914]

Bro his chase music sounds so bad now. They should’ve kept the car alarm one.😣