These NEW VR Headsets look INSANE!

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@ThrillSeekerVR
@ThrillSeekerVR 3 жыл бұрын
About to have a big VR Christmas/ New Years party! join my Discord at Discord.gg/Thrill to join in and get details!
@TheVirtualRealityShow
@TheVirtualRealityShow 3 жыл бұрын
Santa PHIA's gonna be there too 🎅
@ohurspecial
@ohurspecial 3 жыл бұрын
The captions on this video are like what happens when i spam the predicted word button on my phone...
@sythereaper8403
@sythereaper8403 3 жыл бұрын
@@ohurspecial yes
@sythereaper8403
@sythereaper8403 3 жыл бұрын
@@ohurspecial oh it’s Portuguese
@campiotti2
@campiotti2 3 жыл бұрын
I would love if you'd do a more indepth video on all the metaverse land talk that's going on recently I'm especially interested in your view on all of it as you've previously stated your support for an actually decentralized metaverse instead of something more centralized like meta.
@johnfortnite1987
@johnfortnite1987 3 жыл бұрын
Tuesday Newsday on a Tuesday! It's a Christmas Miracle!
@potatoplayz1242
@potatoplayz1242 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit you are right
@Fx_Explains
@Fx_Explains 3 жыл бұрын
no such thing a "Christmas" miracle.
@johnfortnite1987
@johnfortnite1987 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fx_Explains not what that attitude!
@byronhorde5892
@byronhorde5892 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't last week on a Tuesday? I thought it was.🤔
@lejohn_e64
@lejohn_e64 3 жыл бұрын
@@byronhorde5892 mandela effect
@2_Elliot
@2_Elliot 3 жыл бұрын
I love all of these new headset releases, but I'm going to be honest: I want more software! I feel like the industry is missing a good triple-a RPG, specifically designed for vr!
@chestio3488
@chestio3488 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@SAIIIURAI
@SAIIIURAI 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! But i would add that every genre is better in VR really! And also where is the better hardware too already!? My hope are in PsVr2 tbh! ...i just really hope the specs will deliver for that much waiting! :/
@markilleen4027
@markilleen4027 3 жыл бұрын
star citizen is developing with VR in mind, i don't understand why companies don't release older titles for vr
@stealthysaucepan2016
@stealthysaucepan2016 3 жыл бұрын
@@markilleen4027 same
@puddle.studios
@puddle.studios 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that half-life?
@LucasVRTech
@LucasVRTech 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh! That's pretty exciting stuff. The new generation of VR is gonna be sweet
@thenonexistinghero
@thenonexistinghero 3 жыл бұрын
I think Arpara is kickstarting it with the All In One version. 5K resolution, micro oled screens, wireless pc vr streaming and much more. Also only 380 grams, making it one of the lightest VR sets around even when compared to PC VR sets.
@lakispyravlakis
@lakispyravlakis 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah , Apara got my eye also. Need to wait until release and see if it as good as it looks. That will be my replacement for quest 2.
@thenonexistinghero
@thenonexistinghero 3 жыл бұрын
@@lakispyravlakis I kickstarted for the discount, but since techies will get their hands on it before it ends, I'll have plenty of time to cancel if it doesn't live up to expectations. The main issue for me is the potential bad 6DoF. Brightness could be a minor one, but I don't think I'd cancel for that. And I suppose wireless pc streaming video quality and if the delay is too much are important factors too.
@lakispyravlakis
@lakispyravlakis 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenonexistinghero Aside from the fact that it might end like decagear and never receive the product , I'm also worried about the overall performance. What if per example the controllers end up to be as horrible as the controllers of reverb g2. Those issues u can learn only after review. Anyway i really hope it is as promising as it sounds because I feel like Quest 2 has reached its limits and i need something new.
@thenonexistinghero
@thenonexistinghero 3 жыл бұрын
@@lakispyravlakis Unlike with the Decagear, this company has already released a beta version of this headset for the Asian markets. And its release is pretty close. The creators are claiming they are starting production for the AIO version this week and mass production the tethered next week. And they'll be sending out copies to techies and whatnot. It may have some potential issues, but I do see far more green flags than red. They are answering questions pretty well too in the comments section of their kickstarter and are listening to feedback, such as expanding the faq with questions and answers from the comments, updating information that may be listed wrong or outdated, etc. Not saying that it will be a definite success, but it's definitely far from a Decagear. They are also well aware that most of the backers will cancel if they don't send out units to techies before the kickstarter ends, since that will make it seem like it's a scam and that they'll run with your money.
@Zullfix
@Zullfix 3 жыл бұрын
All these new seemingly too-good-to-be-true headsets make me super excited for the near future of VR, but I also worry they could get canceled like what happened to the Deca gear
@theicedragon100
@theicedragon100 3 жыл бұрын
we will see what the future holds. also there could be headsets that we don't know about till they come out.
@smittyvanjagermanjenson182
@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 3 жыл бұрын
Decagear talked big and then hard times hit and killed all their momentum. Hopefully other companies can follow through.
@TikkaQrow
@TikkaQrow 3 жыл бұрын
Or be priced out of consumer range.
@Skrenja
@Skrenja 3 жыл бұрын
Once a reasonably priced (sub $800) headset releases that has a feature set similar to the Varjo Aero's, I will _finally_ upgrade from my CV 1.
@lavadragpk5831
@lavadragpk5831 3 жыл бұрын
Since the Linux headset is essentially a PC, it wouldn't be hard to just connect an external GPU to it to play high-end VR games. It's super exciting to think about.
@viken3368
@viken3368 3 жыл бұрын
Lets hope Valve works on steamvr for Linux
@HealyHQ
@HealyHQ 3 жыл бұрын
@@viken3368 Yeah, it currently works, just not well. Valve is one of the only companies in the VR space supporting Linux though, I'm glad they haven't abandoned it like Oculus did the moment they were bought by Facebook. With SteamOS 3 dropping soon (an Arch-based Linux distro), and the work we know they're doing behind the scenes with VR, and how their latest hardware, Steam Deck, runs SteamOS 3, well...I'm personally expecting more in the way of Linux VR support in the coming years. It just seems like the obvious thing to do, since they don't want to be beholden to the whims of Microsoft et al.
@ChrisD__
@ChrisD__ 3 жыл бұрын
They mention that as a feature. I'm surprised people don't realize that modern laptop integrated GPUs are totally capable of light VR apps, especially with them being a hell of a lot faster than the Quest 2. It should have completely debunked the idea that you need a super powerful PC to play VR.
@ChrisD__
@ChrisD__ 3 жыл бұрын
@@viken3368 What's it like? I have a WMR headset, it boots on Linux but only in 3 DoF and the Len correction doesn't work, so I've just been dual booting.
@x95titan47
@x95titan47 3 жыл бұрын
Except you cant get a GPU….
@DiggoryJiggory
@DiggoryJiggory 3 жыл бұрын
I don't own a VR headset-I haven't even touched one. The closest I've ever been to experiencing VR is watching others use it in person, but I still get unreasonably excited when I hear about any sort of progression in the VR space regardless. I'm super excited for the future of virtual reality, and your videos make my afternoon. Thanks Thrill
@ChrisD__
@ChrisD__ 3 жыл бұрын
That excitement doubles every time you try it :3
@x95titan47
@x95titan47 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisD__ Furry spotted, braincells lost, rights negated, tactical nuke employed.
@ChrisD__
@ChrisD__ 3 жыл бұрын
@@x95titan47 Hey, uhh... You're in a VR community right now. This is furry territory, get off our lawn gamer! We run this place!
@amxgaming1116
@amxgaming1116 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisD__ Not anymore the weebs are declaring war!
@senasakura345
@senasakura345 3 жыл бұрын
知らぬが仏
@CHEFPKR
@CHEFPKR 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Ultraleap, I picked up a Leap Motion back when they launched... Is there ANY use for them with an index?
@AkiRa22084
@AkiRa22084 3 жыл бұрын
Lot's of homebrew support it. I got a bunch of them for ten times cheaper, due to their factory fiasco.
@4P5MC
@4P5MC 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, and it's been sitting gathering dust for the past few years.
@adicsbtw
@adicsbtw 3 жыл бұрын
I know that some games do support using a Leap Motion for hand tracking in VR. Neos supports it natively, and there is a mod that allows you to use it in VRChat. I would recommend trying it in Neos, as it is actually able to use the full extent of the information from it, while VRChat only emulates Valve Index controllers.
@rileyguy5892
@rileyguy5892 3 жыл бұрын
@@adicsbtw Gotta second this, even though neos' support is tentative at best, it's still well worth it to see your hands mirrored onto whatever model you're wearing. Especially if you can somehow get the gemini driver working. That new driver is really good.
@Eunostos
@Eunostos 3 жыл бұрын
The Scream on viveport was pretty neat.
@jooeyyjn
@jooeyyjn 3 жыл бұрын
Tuesday Newsday on a Tuesday is always something to appreciate.
@pyraffin
@pyraffin 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the Simula headset has that retro look. It looks like you'd be wearing an old Nintendo or Gameboy and it really makes it stand out from the sleek/rounded minimalistic design everything else has. Those are pretty too, but this is style.
@teagonrex
@teagonrex 3 жыл бұрын
About the Virtual land ownership: ignoring the environmental issues, I think that a lot of the ideas behind NFTs and crypto shit are kind of the complete antithesis of what makes the idea of the metaverse cool. Why put limitations on a world where the main selling point is that there are no limitations?
@neojenshi4055
@neojenshi4055 3 жыл бұрын
Still not worse than 1 dollar vr holograms, now that is just scummy As for digital land ownership, It could be ending up something like vrchat for example, alot of avatars get DMCA just business like usual But renting digital land however, no, just no
@peterhaag9344
@peterhaag9344 3 жыл бұрын
Rich parasites will exploit anything and anyone in order to try and satiate their bottomless appetite for money they are nothing but junkies addicted to cash.
@naughtmeinam4603
@naughtmeinam4603 3 жыл бұрын
Go check out how someone copypasted your comment. I've seen this happen twice now and I don't understand the point.
@Ucceah
@Ucceah 3 жыл бұрын
somnium space is more part of the current NFT speculation bubble, than a virtual world actually ment to be used. and it shows! in second life, for example, digital land ownership and rentals have been working fine for almost 20 years, and the prices are reasonable. you really have to destinguish, though, between these two, where you have a single cohesive and persistant world, and the likes of VRc to neos VR, that are scattered over completely isolated "worlds", and instances thereof, that are pretty much static. conversely that makes the infrastructure of SL much more inefficient, because the entire, huge world needs to remain loaded up at all times.
@A_Storm_That_Isnt_Approaching
@A_Storm_That_Isnt_Approaching 3 жыл бұрын
Non Functional Tokens- A Wise Man
@kurisu7885
@kurisu7885 3 жыл бұрын
That SImula headset looks like how the early 80s would imagine a VR headset and I kinda dig it.
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@rookless4121
@rookless4121 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy, as much as I follow VR news and updates on software and hardware I still haven't gotten a headset yet. The price is just too hard to justify for me right now and I'm not exactly trying to mess with facebook.
@rylie8989
@rylie8989 3 жыл бұрын
I really want there to be open source headsets for privacy. Like with inside out tracking pointing cameras at your room, and now as eye and face tracking become a thing, I'd love to be able to confirm that for example, the eye trackers are only passing basic positional data and discarding any pictures of one's eyes and face. Which I know sounds paranoid but facebook adding users to massive facial recognition databases without consent is already a thing
@Skrenja
@Skrenja 3 жыл бұрын
I normally wouldn't even care about any of that stuff, but as soon as Facebook is involved... that's a huge NOPE from me.
@cameronmactavish6501
@cameronmactavish6501 3 жыл бұрын
There's no reason to have "limited real estate" in any virtual environment, VR or otherwise. I'm old enough to remember the days of social games that let you host your own instances on your own servers. You would deploy a gateway to your instance in the public world to give anyone in the game access to your instance, or you would go to your instance and personally invite people to come join you there to keep it private. This is no different than AAA game companies not allowing private servers for hosting matches. We spent from the early 90s through the 2010s and some of the 2020s using private servers to host games, and all the game maker had to do was host a master server that people could connect to and ask "what servers are out there?" It's a move motivated by greed and greed alone.
@tetri90
@tetri90 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Somnium approach to the VR space is an absolute cancer and that kills any interst I could have for the headset. I think he shouldn't have passed so quick on the background of that headset because the mindset of the company creating it absolutly matters when your considering the chances of success for the headset.
@blockchainbaboon7617
@blockchainbaboon7617 3 жыл бұрын
This is not an accurate representation of what blockchain will do for the vr industry. I know its a weird idea but blockchain and virtual land will create user owned worlds and digital assets. Instead of a company owning the worlds you engage with you can own a part of it. Not to mention most of the games and worlds built this way will still be free to play. Blockchain can give the metaverse to us instead of corporate giants
@mist1373
@mist1373 3 жыл бұрын
@@blockchainbaboon7617 but if you buy a virtual land nft, you still don't own it, the company has it on their servers, so what's your point about "actually owning land". You don't get closer to ownership than literally running the server that has your stuff on it
@blockchainbaboon7617
@blockchainbaboon7617 3 жыл бұрын
@Mist thats not how blockchain works. The game exists on top of the blockchain and not a company server.
@HealyHQ
@HealyHQ 3 жыл бұрын
@@blockchainbaboon7617 No, *you* don't know how Blockchain works, the Blockchain still exists ON A SERVER. The company DOES ultimately control it. When they shut down the servers hosting the ledger, what happens to all the data the ledger was pointing to? The data isn't on the Blockchain itself, only tokens that *point* to the data is on the Blockchain.
@nichijoufan
@nichijoufan 3 жыл бұрын
5:47 With the Thunderblot port you could attach an external-GPU, but it will require a PSU too. Maybe a mobile gpu (laptop gpus) and a little batt. could work, giving it much more power than any standalone, probably at levels of the future 10K pimax
@CoexistKay
@CoexistKay 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the VRC running 3D modeling programs, where you can build your 3D characters in game. That could help with fine details in a game because you're in it while actively working on it.
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 3 жыл бұрын
The possibilites of that is scary and dope
@emiliodelbozo3155
@emiliodelbozo3155 3 жыл бұрын
I just want a high end standalone with some good graphical power. It's concerning to see that everyone keeps sticking with the XR2.
@YaBoi-cx8yu
@YaBoi-cx8yu 3 жыл бұрын
I would pay for a Titanfall VR
@sub23DaRkNeSS
@sub23DaRkNeSS 2 жыл бұрын
That's probably years away.
@BlueJay56
@BlueJay56 3 жыл бұрын
While it might to be exciting right now because we're all still about that buzz of ULTRA HIGH DEF VR IMMERSIVE RGB COMFORTABLE GAMING!!!11! I think the Simula truly represents the future where VR can take the average person in terms of productivity. Why decorate or furnish an office when all you need is a comfortable $300 chair for your employee, one headset, and a little space. No need for 3 monitors, or large machinery just to visualize something infront of you in real time. This might not be what gamers want right now, but it's what the world needs!
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly selling virtual land doesn't bother me per-se. At least as far as selling server-space to host something is. That's a significant part of what pays for Second Life servers. You want a space for folks to hang out on that game? You pay for it. my issue with it is how MUCH that costs considering how little goes into keeping the game up to date for modern hardware. I have *my own* server, and still had to pay for the hardware and the... (does calculations) 172Kwh per month of electricity to keep it running. There will ALWAYS be inequality. "we don't allow private land ownership in the metaverse because that's not fair" Yeah, and if it's open source (like people want) I can just run a copy on my Thinkcentre and sell the space on Discord if I want. There's very little that can be done about it.
@Forcoy
@Forcoy 3 жыл бұрын
Open source is good in general. It forces people to make better products to compete And peer to peer also exists.
@Ulvens
@Ulvens 3 жыл бұрын
The way you answered the QOTW. Thank you. That way of thinking about it is so important.
@aiden.lscipio5663
@aiden.lscipio5663 3 жыл бұрын
Dude i have been trying to use my quest 2 as a portable laptop. The idea of it is amazing. Its small, relatively ofc, but if you factor in the fact that you can have multiple big monitors, there are no competition, amd modern built in graphics got good enough for basic work, even some more heavy stuff. Also i love playing old games in VR so that woulf be also great, a huge monitor, Some upscalling with amulation, and boom, silent hill never been scarier. Such a great idea, i only wish i could connect my actual pc to my quest and use it with the logitech keyboard, a mouse, and hand gesture. Editing videos would be awesome, and playing games on a big screen. I already love watching movies in my quest2 Better than a real cinema, no coughing people, annoying stair lights, just the movie and me, or some friends from all over the world, damm this is amazing I cant wait. I just hope the pass trough will be better so it wont freak my coworkers out that much.
@Wright00000
@Wright00000 3 жыл бұрын
You can! Just use virtual desktop!
@aiden.lscipio5663
@aiden.lscipio5663 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wright00000 I use virtual desktop eversince I got my quest, but i dont remember the logitech keyboard showing up the same way. Also adding gestures would be nice too. But i love it the way it is. But if i remember correctly there is a way to run linux on the quest 2, now that would be cool too. But dunno how many app has a way to run on ARM....
@SlyHaku
@SlyHaku 3 жыл бұрын
Really excited to see some new hardware news!
@SlyHaku
@SlyHaku 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Thrill for bringing so much value throught your weekly videos!
@SolidSt8Dj
@SolidSt8Dj 3 жыл бұрын
I do find the "Linux-based" marketing really funny from the Simula headset, considering Oculus's own OS is based on Android, which is a linux based distro...
@TylerTraverse
@TylerTraverse 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the marketing is such that it's built on top of desktop linux. It's meant to be a workstation. Android for VR has not been used too much outside of the Quest, but as far as I've seen, they've all (non-Quest Android VR) been entertainment focused, nowhere near workstation focused. The Quest at least has a semblance of multitasking, but it's not even close to being a linux desktop environment. You can probably figure out how to install one and VNC into it or something like that, but it'd be a rather awful experience and run as a 2D application, whereas SimulaVR is trying to create a 3D, VR desktop environment. As a programmer, I'd like to try it out, as I've always wanted to try to work with a bunch of floating screens, but so far my experience trying to program in VR has been very uncomfortable.
@Ztaticify
@Ztaticify 3 жыл бұрын
At this point Android is about as based on linux as mac is based on unix. It is techincally, but you lose most of the customizablity and it'll have problems working at all without some companies proprietary software locking it down
@youarekool731
@youarekool731 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we can start to see more AAA titles coming out with all these better headsets coming out
@Kryojenix
@Kryojenix 3 жыл бұрын
9:35 an idea not a product - that’s why I like Pimax. They delivered the Pimax 4K 3DOF headset prior to their 8KX Kickstarter. That the only reason I decided it was worth the risk to spend money on a preorder with them for the 8KX. End of 2022 is when their 12K OLED comes out supposedly. Despite their problems and delays they have more cred than yet another first timer.
@BlueSparxLPs
@BlueSparxLPs 3 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely interested in the 12K OLED and have been saving up for it, but I've heard that the quality generally under-delivers from the initial announcement promises. Since I've never actually been able to get a previous Pimax headset I can't confirm the accuracy of that, but it has me cautiously optimistic.
@reNINTENDO
@reNINTENDO 3 жыл бұрын
I do think one option for "portable" VR is essentially a standalone headset where the computer part is external, yet still portable. So like a backpack or smaller form size desktop designed to be moved around that you just stick in the corner and stream to. That solves some major problems with standalone without having to wait for the hardware to catch up, and could potentially help with price since if you don't need to make something that small/power efficient you can get better specs with less cutting edge tech. Honestly it's sort of something I could see Valve doing given some of the hardware they've been working on. Imagine a more powerful, screenless Steam Deck designed for a headset or wireless upgrade to the existing Index. Add the ability to still plug into a normal gaming PC or even just link with one for other uses and you've got a really solid PC VR headset you can still show off at a friends house.
@mac1991seth
@mac1991seth 3 жыл бұрын
Exclusive virtual space in VR reminds me of that guy that was selling pixels on his website for adspace and got rich off of basically nothing. Virtual land sounds like a .com bubble ready (player one) to happen.
@WhoTnT
@WhoTnT 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. I'm not sure if I'm missing something but I think a bunch clueless investors will get caught buying virtual land when it will only have value within the particular metaverse that it belongs to but nothing is limiting the number of metaverses. People will just gravitate towards the ones where real estate...virtual estate? is free or the entertainment value is better.
@Ucceah
@Ucceah 3 жыл бұрын
in second life, it's been working fine for almost 20 years, and at reasonable prices. all the current attempts i see popping up are more part of the NFT speculation boom, than virtual worlds build with the user and his enjoyment in mind.
@ChaoticKrisis
@ChaoticKrisis 3 жыл бұрын
I think it could work if the selling portion is only for selling preexisting land and that its free to create new land. Basically stuff close towards the hotpots would be more valuable because more people will be seeing it, however every person could just create their own land plot away from all that stuff for free and later buy one closer if they wish to. Could all be stored on something like IPFS to make it decentralised. IPFS is also not a blockchain and ownership can just be proven with a simple rsa key.
@uhhrazt
@uhhrazt 3 жыл бұрын
@VulpisFoxfire
@VulpisFoxfire 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaoticKrisis Indeed. In VR, land is infinite, what needs to be marketed is connectivity to big names.
@dazzlinggene
@dazzlinggene 3 жыл бұрын
Just imagine VR in 5 - 10 years! 🤩
@senasakura345
@senasakura345 3 жыл бұрын
絵にかいた餅は食えない それだけのこと
@crispinmendoza9269
@crispinmendoza9269 3 жыл бұрын
Great to watch when passing the time, very informative
@cyphre
@cyphre 3 жыл бұрын
Man, still WAY too many "new" Vr headsets that exist only on paper. All of them sound too good to be true, and basically no third party manufacturer has really succeeded outside of Pimax (who is also promising a crazy new headset in the distant future). I just hope the Varjo Aero launches and ships successfully, since that is the only known 'true' upgrade for PCVR. In terms of 'land ownership' in a metaverse, it has existed for a while in different forms. I don't think it's about scarcity, its about owning a private space in an existing 'world'. Second Life is one such example, however that is predicated on their ecosystem being built from the ground up for players to create everything. Only problem is, VRchat is already kind of doing this better, where Sansar (the VR version of SL) already failed.
@Whatsup_Abroad
@Whatsup_Abroad 3 жыл бұрын
I work for Pimax, can assure you that the new headset is real and on its way. Can't say anything else atm though.
@jerrystrango
@jerrystrango 3 жыл бұрын
just got home from basic training missed these videos glad your still making them. Thanks Thrill
@nw2kr8bc3t
@nw2kr8bc3t 3 жыл бұрын
The simula head set looks like exactly what I’ve been looking for in a head set. Something that can potentially replace a computer. I thinks it way ahead of it design and who knows, it might be the first vr headset I get.
@xivix6710
@xivix6710 3 жыл бұрын
The auto caption is wild and funny, just a small quote from 10:26 "fine wine red baby Hot Wheels wall hack" 😂 Now I have to rewatch the video to listen to the news instead of reading the captions 🤦‍♂
@DampeS8N
@DampeS8N 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Simula is a Deck from the Sprawl trilogy (Neuromancer, Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive) - Specifically as imagined in Johnny Mnemonic
@Ticktok_of_Oz
@Ticktok_of_Oz 3 жыл бұрын
yup, I've been waiting for something like this for so long. I am super excited for a PCVR specific operating system. That is going to tackle so many UX interactions and be the precursor to what computers/computing look like to our great grandkids.
@DampeS8N
@DampeS8N 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ticktok_of_Oz I doubt it. There is one feature that all long-use computing has always had and when it is neglected leads to failure for the devices. The ability to be lap-able / desk-able. Most - almost all - people need to be able to rest their arms on something to be able to use a device for 8 hours straight. When it comes to mass-market business equipment for the office, this is universal. Any device that requires you to hold your arms up without resting them on a surface or your lap just can't be used for that long comfortably. This is one of the reasons touch devices, outside of phones, haven't taken off. Every device that has really stood the test of time and become standard allows you to rest your whole arm on a desk or lap your hands. Keyboard, mouse, game pads. And even before digital devices, office-type devices like pens/pencils, books, every form of writing that wasn't meant to be chiseled into stone walls, all of them work this way. So, no, I don't think a deck style VR setup will ever become the dominant form of computer interaction. Not if you need to keep your hands up off a desk. Now, a VR setup with hybrid physical/digital controls (such as a keyboard that appears in the VR space) which you use at a desk? That could work.
@3d1stp3rs0n
@3d1stp3rs0n 3 жыл бұрын
Your "extended Tuesday Newsday" last week on Twitch was awesome, keep it up!
@thelordpotatoesorjtswagste1945
@thelordpotatoesorjtswagste1945 3 жыл бұрын
What you said about being able to stamp out economic inequality was really awesome. I never really thought about it that way and I agree that it will really suck if everything is locked behind paywalls. I'm imagining some horrible version of vrchat where models have to be standardized so clothes purchasable with real money fit on them or where certain worlds and places just don't exist if you don't pay for them. Vr has the potential to be a place where you can untether and be whoever you wanna be and do whatever you wanna do and I feel like bringing in an economy will ruin that
@VulpisFoxfire
@VulpisFoxfire 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed...why create artificial inequalities inside VR, when there is currently tons of it outside dividing the people who can afford the high end gear, the ones that can afford gear at all, and those who can't afford VR in the first place.
@enzovanlieshout2339
@enzovanlieshout2339 3 жыл бұрын
@@VulpisFoxfire i thought the same thing hahah but everyone in the comments is very excited for all this crazy stuff
@jephbennett
@jephbennett 3 жыл бұрын
​ You and all the others are simply hating on a concept you haven't clearly grasped yet. (You will.) In the old/current model, players spend money/hours/weeks/years building/buying/upgrading characters, inventories, ships, avatars, etc. And these digital assets are wholly owned & controlled by a corporation, which can go bankrupt, or change the rules of ownership, or kick you from THEIR servers at any time. Furthermore, while you can spend real money on buying THEIR IP , you cannot usually make money on their servers from building your own creations & artwork on their servers, and the few instances where you can are, again, subject to their rules, bans, & failures. In the new model, every digital creation is represented by an NFT, which is minted and stored on the blockchain, forever. It can be transferred, bought, sold, but never taken from you by a ban, or lost due to the gaming company shutting down a server or going bankrupt. That means you could mint an NFT of your WoW character, and that digital IP is permanent, cannot be deleted or denied, and if you're banned, you can sell it on the marketplace to another user. Same with weapons, armor, vehicles, avatars, voice packs. Many games will soon allow us to create these, use them, sell them, buy them, trade them. And we can buy NFT digital property, which allows us to create our OWN games and experience on that server, and share or charge for admission & use as we see fit. Painters & sculptors can create art galleries to sell NFTs and real world art pieces to buyers. Film students & animators can run VR theaters to showcase their short films & cartoons. Amateur fashion designers can showcase new clothes they have designed, and only fabricate what's been ordered. DJ's and bands can host live shows for fans. You are all whining about "capitalism" taking over "what should be free", when this system of NFTs is actually REMOVING THE CAPITALIST CORPORATE THIEVES FROM THE EQUATION, so that I can buy YOUR creation, and YOU get paid, instead of getting crumbs from those who monopolize the current marketplace. There are blockchain replacements in the works for everything you hate about greedy corporations: - ticketbastard will be replaced by a system that lets you pay for each show, virtual or IRL, directly to the artist. - Facebook will be replaced by an array of blockchain social media apps that allow you to decide what data you sell, and get paid for doing so (like Brave browser, but better). - Amazon will be replaced by an app that allows each manufacturer to sell directly to the customer. Delivery will be handled by drones that use the blockchain to compete to offer the lowest price for each package to your door. 
- Google will be replaced by a blockchain search engine that is incapable of altering or manipulating the results you see for any authority or company's special interests. 
And eventually, one day, governments will be replaced by DAOs, where we collectively, equally vote on each law, bill, or initiative, removing the corrupt shitty leaders we have now from the equation entirely. 

In 40-60 years, NFT's and blockchain alternatives will be the norm, and folks will tell horror stories about when we all used to slave away for hours building, working, creating value for OTHERS to profit from, while we paid inflated amounts for what we need and want in this world. And the kids will laugh and say "what idiots". Blockchain/NFTs can't solve every problem, but they will change our society as much or more than the internet did over the last 40 years. Maybe try to learn the fundamentals before passing judgements.
@VulpisFoxfire
@VulpisFoxfire 3 жыл бұрын
@@jephbennett What a lot of blathering about silliness...you're talking about creating original content within someone else's IP...these exist today, they're called 'mods'. Or, alternatively, you can create your *own* server and/or IP, and achieve the same thing as your long-winded rant. (And either way, end up hoping your ISP doesn't have some issue with you, cutting off your access to all these things).
@enzovanlieshout2339
@enzovanlieshout2339 3 жыл бұрын
@@jephbennett I'm not hating on the concept I just don't like the idea of people living in VR, there is still a world outside the glasses and there are plenty of people who need to work to keep the power on for your ass, blurring the lines between reality and VR just seems like bringing a Doomsday on yourself, technological heroine ;) I get the appeal but if you leave earth unattended around you you're gonna shoot yourself in the foot
@j-p2042
@j-p2042 2 жыл бұрын
glad you brought up big screen, I used to use it in 2016/2017 on my galaxy gear vr, and now I know I can look forward to using it again once i decide on a new headset
@Channel-sz8tg
@Channel-sz8tg 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a fresh Tuesday Newsday to inform me on VR news :) *Have a nice holiday everyone by the way!*
@Brafie37
@Brafie37 3 жыл бұрын
Very happy to hear Rec Room is doing great. Definitely my favorite vr game, so much to do in it.
@roboteen
@roboteen 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for metas competition comes out with a standalone headset, my quest 2 is nice but as long as it's attached to Facebook and their schemes I'll always be looking for alternatives. Even if it's china's standalone set
@lukeb5905
@lukeb5905 2 жыл бұрын
The PIMAX 12k will have standalone capabilities. I'm excited for it, but based on their track record, we'll have to see. The specs on it are insane though. 200 Hfov, 5760x3240 per eye, and 200Hz. I know there's not really a gaming PC build that can run it with these specs but I think they have something to help compensate with the VR station.The price is a lot, but with the specs, I'd expect it to be more expensive. Standalone specs are less at 8k/5k, 120Hz, 150Hfov. They will be launching their own standalone store with it as well as a VR station. I'm excited, but It's hard to be confident in their ability to get everything right. But even if it's close, should still be an amazing VR setup. Still, not sure I'll be able to budget one for a couple years after release date anyways, and by then we'll know if it's even worth it.
@pyrosnineActual
@pyrosnineActual 3 жыл бұрын
For the simula, i want it to be modifiable to let me do whatever- use the passthrough cameras or an attached camera/LIDAR for improved vision, a real world HUD, keep track of tasks, let me view a security cam footage of my shop's front door, and obviously some way to view my phone. The closed nature of other headsets means making a custom VR/AR headset applications can be tricky ,so having a base to start from would be cool.
@factaviusthebakinggamer9779
@factaviusthebakinggamer9779 3 жыл бұрын
Doubt this'll get picked as the question but eh, figure the other commenters may answer it. I'm an engineering student really interested in the tech behind vr. What companies do you think would be good to look into when it comes to working for them.
@factaviusthebakinggamer9779
@factaviusthebakinggamer9779 3 жыл бұрын
@@sallhurd yeah, over in america.
@zrk03
@zrk03 3 жыл бұрын
@@factaviusthebakinggamer9779 Valve, Apple, Meta. Really any of the big ones working on VR.
@Tarapeutic
@Tarapeutic 3 жыл бұрын
I love being a Rec Room KZbinr. It's such a fun game. I'm proud of the strong community and how the developers listen to what the players want to see. I hope they continue to grow in the future!!
@xcraftmc
@xcraftmc 3 жыл бұрын
I love the specs and open-source, right-to-repair forward-ness of the Somnium headset, but I'm a little scared about something. What if they were to integrate their already existing experience of owning land in vr into the headset? Requiring you, for example, to own a section of land in the vr space to use the headset. Kind of like, you have to own the land to use it in vr. Hopefully it's not like that.
@Jack-nd3is
@Jack-nd3is 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone can join somnium space whether or not you have land. There’s no incentive for them to ostracize users by requiring land ownership
@masacote_
@masacote_ 3 жыл бұрын
the intro gave my so much hunger that I had to pause it, go to my kitchen, perpare a whole meal and watch the video while drinking some cold coffee. Wild.
@Luxian2842
@Luxian2842 3 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on jobs in VR? Something like a waiter in the metaverse . Do you think this could be a very real thing or is it just something that would be phased out in favour of AI?
@m0ose0909
@m0ose0909 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Why would you need a "waiter" in VR. I could see jobs like customer service or guides or something tho.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 3 жыл бұрын
You would have to think outside the box to find work in a VR environment.
@lavenderchants6014
@lavenderchants6014 3 жыл бұрын
There will no doubt be vendor bots selling most objects that are created for use on that server or within a particular VR social program, but there will possibly be people who are hiring others to interact with potential customers to boost sales and provide customer service. More importantly, there will be endless opportunities for musicians to perform without having to go on the road.
@rocktolife332
@rocktolife332 3 жыл бұрын
Man i love these videos you putting out the Info is on point. I just bought my first VR head set because of you
@MasonMcCarthy
@MasonMcCarthy 3 жыл бұрын
Actually on a Tuesday this time 🤣
@somefigure
@somefigure 3 жыл бұрын
lol yeah
@RM209
@RM209 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@mateuszmatjas1345
@mateuszmatjas1345 3 жыл бұрын
I was Just about to commet this
@couchoclocknews
@couchoclocknews 3 жыл бұрын
With the simula's Thunderbolt port you can plug in a 3090
@Justsoultrying
@Justsoultrying 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thrill, how’s it going QOTW:what headset is a good upgrade from a quest.the headset has to run steam vr and be pc ready
@zrk03
@zrk03 3 жыл бұрын
It likely depends on your budget. The Index is getting pretty old, so I don't know how much longer people will be recommending that.
@teavo3808
@teavo3808 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on what you're looking for. If you want superior controllers and tracking, go with the Index. But if you value clarity and resolution above all else, go with the HP Reverb G2. Besides, you can always upgrade the controllers on the G2 (using an admittedly convoluted method).
@Roglozor
@Roglozor 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who's pro crypto, I really don't see the point in this whole "virtual land" thing I've seen so many "metaverses" trying to create. A proper open source, decentralized 3D "metaverse" can solve many problems regarding socializing across the globe, new ways to work, new types of work, or just having some fun which is all good. Crypto solves one big problem with exchange by providing an open source, decentralized and trust-less way to make deals and trade, taking control away from banks and governments and giving it back to the people. What does scarce "virtual land" solve? Real land is valued because it's physically limited and we can't just magic more of it into existence. Virtual land tho? All you need for more of that is any computer, some storage and some electricity. You can get as much as your hardware can handle. Mega scam imo.
@HealyHQ
@HealyHQ 3 жыл бұрын
100%. Virtual land is literally infinite. Why own some plot in their specific game, when I can build sprawling bases in No Man's Sky...?
@fsonetwork
@fsonetwork 3 жыл бұрын
Yo! We're on a streak! Keep up the great work Thrill!
@Anonymous-sf5yv
@Anonymous-sf5yv 3 жыл бұрын
The way people make money off buying land is because the plots of "land" are NFT's based on the ether blockchain, making them unique digital assets, in reality, while they are technically unique they're still pretty worthless because the value of each NFT is based entirely on the success of the game and quite honestly, the game kinda sucks. Its just that most of the people buying it are actually investors looking to cash in on this "metaverse" they heard a lot about and don't actually know anything about the vr/ ar industry as a whole. TLDR: It's basically the shiba-inu of virtual reality.
@stealthysaucepan2016
@stealthysaucepan2016 3 жыл бұрын
yeah
@HealyHQ
@HealyHQ 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@ookami5329
@ookami5329 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Tuesday Newsday to come out!
@weltenkrank7807
@weltenkrank7807 3 жыл бұрын
Creating a product in a little bit than 1 year+ ... sourcing all the hardware, creating all the software. I won't bet on them, but lets see what the future holds.
@FutureLaugh
@FutureLaugh 3 жыл бұрын
LOVING the concept and especially retro design
@xXXhighrollerx
@xXXhighrollerx 3 жыл бұрын
I hope virtual reality doesn't get too muddled by crypto shit
@ToddLarsen
@ToddLarsen 3 жыл бұрын
Oh snap it's my bday, this is my favorite present. Tuesday Newsday!
@Nomadjackalope
@Nomadjackalope 3 жыл бұрын
VR allows for scarcity to go away. Digital stuff allows for that. I hope we don't get the bad parts of capitalism baked right into the future of vr.
@blockchainbaboon7617
@blockchainbaboon7617 3 жыл бұрын
The bad parts of capitalism are centralization and corporate power. Blockchain and nfts directly combat this. If you dont buy the product then you are the product
@tuckermyrick2609
@tuckermyrick2609 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting all day for this…
@emony6332
@emony6332 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like every news day there is some ground breaking tech.
@zeekjones1
@zeekjones1 3 жыл бұрын
I think the buying "land" translates to what art commissions are today on the web, as well as hosting; You pay for a specific thing, and more or less get what you requested, and then you put the data in a place you can see it. 3D models and rigging for avatars, virtual pets, houses, landscaping... Sure other people could haves something similar, or even identical if the buy wasn't exclusive(that'd cost extra). As media streaming is dominating now, it's less likely that you'd be the physical host of these worlds, and they've got to go somewhere. The use of crypto/NFT is the idea of decentralized hosting really, like a torrent file, it has more permanence, seeded by anyone connected, so long as there is anyone connected. _A dead world is literally no one there._ Centralized servers are expensive, probably meaning the land world actually be *more* expensive, as you rent the space. Also the fact that anything connected to an outside network can be hacked. Popular worlds and celebrities would paint a huge target for such.
@lilmrmagoo
@lilmrmagoo 3 жыл бұрын
on the topic of virtual land i think the best way to do it is by having people run there own servers or buy server hosting and have that tie into the game that people have full access rather than limited access for the same thing.
@crazycrystals
@crazycrystals 3 жыл бұрын
Typing this on linux myself, the simula headset seams really nice
@jordirapper
@jordirapper 3 жыл бұрын
After the Fall got a strong start. Now it is up to the devs to actually support it.
@zetathecreator9285
@zetathecreator9285 3 жыл бұрын
One thing the quest 2 needs is more free games and more games in general more fun as the only good multiplayer free games is rec room and vr chat
@srsherman7
@srsherman7 3 жыл бұрын
You had me at espresso.... Subscribed
@LydianMelody
@LydianMelody 3 жыл бұрын
Merry early Christmas/Happy Holidays everyone!
@dracone4963
@dracone4963 3 жыл бұрын
this made my day a lot better, thank you.
@YumiiOGT
@YumiiOGT 3 жыл бұрын
3:30 i coudn't understand much, was busy laughing my ass off with the gorgeus katana throw
@Jack-hp9yw
@Jack-hp9yw 3 жыл бұрын
I really do have to thank you you are so informative you make it interesting I would just like to say that I am truly grateful
@NinjaArts
@NinjaArts 3 жыл бұрын
Great work, as always! 🙏🔥
@Aelethil
@Aelethil 3 жыл бұрын
8:15 I'm sorry what were you saying? I was trying not to lose my shit at that poor boneworks headcrab getting absolutely buried under planks lol.
@theuntoldwizard6993
@theuntoldwizard6993 3 жыл бұрын
I keep watching your videos even tho I don't have a headset lol, I guess I'm hooked
@icetooth2269
@icetooth2269 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you play ultimate immersion Skyrim. You can use the cat walk c, the vario headset, the B haptics vest.
@Skrenja
@Skrenja 3 жыл бұрын
Love the retro aesthetic of the Simula One.
@elainajourney
@elainajourney 3 жыл бұрын
I really want the Simula for work. It would make working from home so much nicer
@kupcakemafia5763
@kupcakemafia5763 3 жыл бұрын
About the virtual property. It’s actually a great idea because in a decentralized world more land will be released over time if the user vote to do so and the mint price is cheaper
@odinangie1377
@odinangie1377 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know it was a Tuesday. Thanks for reminding me
@midlet
@midlet 2 жыл бұрын
On the buying digital land thing, I think a different lens to see it through is decentralized digital ownership vs the artificial scarcity. All the potential is in the ownership. The scarcity is a necessary part of the equation as well though. The land you buy is not going to be some static thing that does nothing. You can “develop” your land, provide exclusive experiences, monetize it in creative ways, similar to what you’d do as a content creator leveraging platforms like KZbin, Patreon, etc. If you generate enough attention brands might want to advertise on your property, and after you build it up, if you so chose, since it’s based on blockchain and through a crypto currency, you can sell your developed land in a decentralized way. The possibilities with this are kind of endless and that’s why a ton of venture money is being poured into this space. Unfortunately, I’d say no, VR is not going to be a world free of income inequality, but it will greatly improve and add a ton of functionality and new experiences to the internet.
@huohsien
@huohsien 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me the name of the game that ThrillSeeker keeps playing in the background for several of his video. No one that you can shoot and you can use sword to fight the zombie like monsters and some spider like creatures that can jump!. There is a tiny clip in the background around 5:10... Thanks in advance
@brandon8384
@brandon8384 3 жыл бұрын
Tuesday newsday ON TUESDAY LEEEESSS GOOOOOO
@Tiniuc
@Tiniuc 3 жыл бұрын
I want an update on the OpenBCI + Valve + Tobii headset project. I salivate at the thought of the Galea.
@meatball.9710
@meatball.9710 3 жыл бұрын
2:03 Yo! this is great news! We could get to keep vr on a competitive market.
@jamesglendening5180
@jamesglendening5180 3 жыл бұрын
As a long time Second Life user, I see land ownership is an easy way of implementing the purchase of server bandwidth and storage space without breaking immersion within the game-world.
@GreenInvasion
@GreenInvasion 3 жыл бұрын
As a mainly PCVR user I would like to see more resolution and fov and less (or none) standalone features. Why is this not happening?
@Ryhon
@Ryhon 3 жыл бұрын
Since Simula has USB 4, it'd be possible to have something like a backpack with a dedicated GPU and run desktop VR games on it
@Quarksi
@Quarksi 3 жыл бұрын
Owning land, does create problems but it does make sense and of course there would be a market for it. Second life is a great example of how profitable it can be to own land in a digital space. As vr becomes more developed and more life like in some spaces... people are going to want permissions and control over their space... the best way to do that is to rent or sell full permission land ownership. It helps the company keep the data on their servers long term and the people have the security of knowing whatever they're using the space for will remain there safely for as long as they pay for it. I'd imagine it's also a great way for people that want to be in VR but for whatever reason can only be around certain people and have certain needs... it's a great way to create a safe space you can control but also make them feel included in the overall space. I don't know how advanced land ownership is in VR yet, but just taking a guess at where it's probably going from how other platforms handled it.
@matthewfryer8428
@matthewfryer8428 3 жыл бұрын
what game in rec room is this 12:51, also loved the vid as always can't wait to see the simula
@Finkle76
@Finkle76 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I'm the moat interested in the half dive you featured a while ago and I really hope it doesn't just dissappear
@lacrossev
@lacrossev 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer to have VR software to also be accessible or cross-playable in flat. We can sit around and talk about how exciting VR is all day but it will never be the same as having someone try VR. For me the next best way to show how exciting VR is without having access to a headset is just to play with someone playing in VR and seeing/hearing how excited they are. I think the cross-platform accessibility is a good stopgap between getting someone to put on a headset, the more exposure to VR the better for adoption by people that have only played flat.
@graysonsmith7031
@graysonsmith7031 3 жыл бұрын
7:24 Deca has shot my trust in any startup Quest 2 competitor. I am not very optimistic about Somnium or any new VR startup.
@Jack-hp9yw
@Jack-hp9yw 3 жыл бұрын
Happy holidays everyone!!!
@darkvader542
@darkvader542 3 жыл бұрын
thrill u made a typo in the time stamp for SIMULA LINUX HEADSET 03:59 instead of 03:59:
@tr0picz551
@tr0picz551 3 жыл бұрын
idk what it is but Tuesday Newsday is always something to look forward to
@Ratboycure
@Ratboycure 3 жыл бұрын
I love that it looks like something Marty brought back from the future. Thanks For sharing!
@moblieismygame7806
@moblieismygame7806 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas
@HitomiOokami
@HitomiOokami 3 жыл бұрын
So besides "Big Screen" what other multi screen desktop into vr programs are there? Been looking for away to play some of my games that support vr but with how adhd an such I am.. having to take it on/off to answer discord or change chrome tabs for music or look something up is a bit cumbersome and gets annoying quickly.
@Luca6v
@Luca6v 3 жыл бұрын
this intro looks insane!
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