These next few months are going to be painful

Regarding the Acolyte Controversy.
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[@EckhartsLadder]

As a fun little experiment, this video has 150 real dislikes and 404 via the extension.

[@fusionwing4208]

its interesting to know that its not exactly a true amount, but at the same time, honestly, I think it should be accounted for regardless if the companies themselves won't provide the actual data. KZbin hiding the dislike system imo is a promotion of positive toxicity, and it devalues criticism, I feel like this is something that should actually be addressed as a law or something similar, because seeing the like/dislike ratio is a way for people to understand the general view on a post. regardless of bots existing to, its really dumb that we cannot publicly view the dislikes on something.

[@romeroorda7234]

503 dislikes

[@alpinevicemotorsports1805]

Any idea why this video shows in my notifications as posted 9 minutes ago even though it’s been out for 3 days?

[@BlakKlaa2]

Over 500,000 dislikes.

[@90lancaster]

Those who are predisposed to watching Bad Batch are more likely to be positive about it, many others may be entirely unaware of its existence though.

[@flak_factory5022]

KZbin hiding dislikes was so stuiped

[@ZESAUCEBOSS]

It was 100% fueled by politics and garbage like this show. Not saying this as a dig on eck, just saying that KZbin picked a side on the “culture battle” that eck referred to in this video.

[@porg-fv8vi]

The dislikes were used to just down vote creator on mass and used by bigger creator's to send their fans to downvote. It was used as a form of Harrasment. That's why KZbin got rid of it.

[@Gorbz]

KZbin said it was to protect small content creators, yet it is far more likely it was done to protect giant corporations from easily viewable criticism.

[@f-86zoomer37]

@@ZESAUCEBOSS no it was not. it was because of bots and brigading used to harass small creators

[@f-86zoomer37]

not true@@Gorbz

[@Justanotherconsumer]

I’ll watch at least an episode or two. It isn’t Andor, but we didn’t know Andor was Andor until we saw it.

[@stevenle9960]

Yea i really dont get people who decide to love or hate something before seeing a single episode

[@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly]

​​@@stevenle9960 Fr like i dont see why people hate this so much its strange can someone explain me why, really i wanna know?

[@anteprs7908]

@@stevenle9960 it ppl obessed with politics that the issue

[@jacobbecklehimer7781]

@@stevenle9960That’s a strange way of looking at it. If you see something that doesn’t interest you in the slightest, why would you go out of your way to waste your time on something you already know you aren’t interested in.

[@Mrlaneck]

​@stevenle9960 pattern recognition. Disney Star Wars' track record means I'm not giving them any more chances. I didn't even like Andor. Not that that show was bad, it was just too boring for me.

[@senseiarthur1968]

I watched the trailer and was like: ehh whatever. Doesnt look bad, doesnt look suprisingly good. We will see when it comes out

[@AntiTMG]

It did look bad especially that opening act of the trailer

[@gavinsmith9871]

@@AntiTMG No. It didn't.

[@unincognito3689]

@@AntiTMG The opeining act... you mean the kids? What are they meant to add to that?

[@mittensfastpaw]

Ya, didn’t spark anything for me. We will see where it goes.

[@HungryHippo7]

This is the correct take. I'm deeply critical of Star Wars Disney but there was nothing in that trailer to really indicate if it is going to be bad or good. Most it looked mid, with the movements by the Trinity actress at least looking slick.

[@TrueKoalaKnight]

They never should have removed the dislike display.

[@StraightOtohGunga]

They only did that at the behest of companies like Disney.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Eh, it just encouraged toxicity. KZbin is enough of a cesspit. Also, for advertising it causes problems because people are intentionally interacting with videos they don’t like.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

@@Justanotherconsumer "Eh, it just encouraged toxicity." No. getting rid of it definitely did, though. Now scams and unhelpful bullshit are more plentiful than EVER.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@KaiserMattTygore927 does a visible dislike button actually change any of that? The scams are up, I’m guessing, because KZbin is losing advertisers to newer and more cost effective (for advertisers) social media platforms. Toxicity was going way up even before the change, so hard to say what removing dislikes did to that trend.

[@sdunn5643]

Just add the plugin

[@Hoganply]

The lack of negative criticism able to be directed at a YT video in the form of a public 'dislike' tally renders the public 'like' button virtually pointless to the viewer. It's only purpose is 1) to provide redundant analytical data to the uploader, and 2) to manipulate the viewer with positivity bias. It's YT's equivalent of the Ryugyong Hotel in North Korea.

[@Coconut-219]

I actually noticed that video 'engagement' (through upvotes) drastically dropped across every video & content creator I follow after it was removed, the idea that it makes ratings essentially meaningless seems to hold true for a majority of people.

[@user-lu2db2id3h]

Its cause these mega corporations were losing millions with the dislike brigades and twisted youtube's arm to stop it

[@squidknightx3459]

I didn't hate the acolyte's trailer but it really didn't seem that interesting at all

[@toobig7150]

But, just like marvel as proven, being loudly bad it's preferred over being mediocrely quiet. Both kill franchises, but at least you can go wild and insane with trash.

[@Makocat]

​@@toobig7150ew no.

[@toobig7150]

@@Makocat :(

[@rascoehunter3608]

​@@toobig7150 A movie or show being annoyingly bad I always thought was worse but at least with boring you could just sleep through.

[@arvelcrynyd6311]

Well, to be fair they’re not gonna give much away in the first trailer. For the most part trailers for SW or Marvel shows tend to only show clips from the first 3 episodes, maybe a clip or two from episodes beyond that. But, yeah, look at any trailer for a SW or Marvel show from the past 5 years and, yeah, most all clips are from the first 3 episodes.

[@WiseStag]

It’s probably just general fatigue from the force or how it’s been mishandled and people are hungry more for the other side of starwars that Andor shows with the more common man and woman, much like what Rogue Squadron could’ve been and Mandalorian started off with.

[@carter_lovejoy]

Rogue Squadron’s back in development at least.

[@PopxTartxThief]

​@darthsilversith667 "woke fatigue" lol. Bro, go crawl back under your rock

[@Themonist]

@@darthsilversith667 WOKEEE. You guys learned a word and jsut keep throwing it around like the re tarded toddlers you are.

[@russianinvader3207]

@@darthsilversith667 Speaking facts.

[@russianinvader3207]

@@Themonist Cry about it sis.

[@cusco9985]

The problem as I see it is Disney has just demonstrated a record of poor management over the star wars IP. With rushed projects, cancellations, poor writing and directing, etc... and just overall star wars just feels like a mess right now. So think back about when we first started getting announcements for new Star wars shows the reception was overall very positive but now after getting our hopes and expectations constantly broken it's hard for a lot of fans to maintain that same optimism. I'm sure everyone wants this show to be amazing but Disney is going to have to prove to us first that they can deliver on that before this pre-emptive backlash starts to subside

[@Patson20]

That's what happens when you're more focused on getting past CCP censorship, and placating the DEI mob than writing a good story in universe.

[@michielkudova3887]

Don’t get your hopes up. The major reason why Kathleen Kennedy is so problematic is because deep down all she cares about is profit. She just uses the whole DEI thing is as a shield to justify her decisions. Unless she is removed from her position content will not get any better.

[@SetreeAnimus]

I think there’s truth to this, but I’m led to think that this is a minority opinion. Most people that hate this show already are anti-woke rwers who have been on the Disney hate train since Princess and the Frog

[@ImperativeGames]

I expect only shitshows from Disney/Marvel.

[@williambragg6171]

I will give it a watch and see what it`s like. I can`t base the quality of a show based on the trailer alone.

[@khal7702]

yes u can, I knew Shogun would be great based on the trailer as I know Acolyte will be bad based on the trailer

[@gildor8866]

@@khal7702 WW1984 had a fantastic trailer - the movie itself was mediocre after the first 10 minutes. Ahsokas trailers was promising, the show was bad. There a plenty of movies were the best thing was the trailer.

[@nix9583]

It worked for Ahsoka and Obiwan. Both meh trailers and both totally bad shows.

[@gildor8866]

@@nix9583 If it only works every other time you might as well flip a coin 😉

[@willwolf8436]

I think the other aspect is that one of the gals running the show was Westeins former assistant

[@garbotoxins840]

I think unless there's evidence she was involved in Weinstein's crimes, it's wrong to hold that against her. This guy is a sex offender that was awful towards countless women, and it's not unlikely that he was awful towards female assistants as well. Just the possibility of blaming a victim for crimes that may well have been directed at her, I just can't do that. If evidence comes forward that she was complicit, I'm with you 100%, but I can't without evidence.

[@largosgaming]

@@garbotoxins840 She had publicly stated that she was never assaulted by Weinstein. I find it unlikely as a personal assistant that she would be completely unaware of what was going on with Weinstein but I guess still possible. My big problem is I get the feeling from her interviews that she doesn't really care about or understand Star Wars. Just another person hopping on the franchise to squeeze as much cash out of it as possible.

[@teslercoil5174]

​@@largosgaming​ Rogue one and Andor were written by some who otherwise has no interest in star wars though. I'm not saying that because of that acolyte will be good but. I think a fresh mind that isnt so filled with lore could be needed to bring something fresh to star wars. Obviously they need to know how shit works in the lore. But really only the basic essentials. I think Andor and Rogue one were great because they were written in a way that takes the events seriously and with gravity.

[@obyone878]

And? That's like saying that someone working for a corporation is guilty of everything the CEO does. Most of an Assistant's job is just scheduling things, and she only worked for him for a very short time period.

[@SuperGoose42]

The acolyte's dislike ratio is the least surprising news I've seen come out of Hollywood since the success of Endgame

[@asaschuemann9545]

Okay, not a hot take, just my honest opinion, I'm not excited for the Acolyte but not for the reason you might think. I'm actually decently okay with the High Republic, I'm just not fully versed in it, and as far as the Sith involvement goes, Star Wars has done weirder and more lore-bending shit before. I'm not excited for it mostly because it's likely going to re-hash a point from the prequels: "The Jedi are so caught up in their own power and supremacy that they're not able to stop the rising threat of the Sith and their own apathy and complacency kills them". I just honestly feel like we already have a good representation of this in the prequels and I don't see the need to have it be rehashed. There's plenty of dark already in the world right now, both fictional and very real, and I find it hard to get excited for a show that will inevitably have to tread some very dark ground without resolving anything. We know that a couple hundred years from this, Palpatine will destroy the Jedi and the Sith's plans will either go undiscovered until it's too late, or the Jedi of the past find out about it and cover it up, dooming the order. I don't think the show will be bad by any means, it looks decent, it's just not what I'm looking to watch right now.

[@gilangthehuman7713]

This is the most balanced comment 👍 thanks

[@Voltaic_Fire]

The extention figures may be a bit off but given KZbin hid the dislikes to help corpos we have no choice but to go with them. People have been conditioned to dislike Disney products, years of failures and hating on fans will have that effect.

[@FuImaDragon]

the Acolyte sits at 186k likes and 592k dislikes currently. firefox has addons that make the dislikes visible still.

[@chrisallen9638]

@@FuImaDragon Literally watch the video, Eck explains how those addons work. No, they don't make the dislikes actually visible. It's an estimated ratio based on the people that have the extension installed.

[@Coconut-219]

In laymen's terms "New thing looks the same as old thing that was also bad so it'll probably be bad" If there was any indication that things were going in some new direction, people might have some level of CAUTIOUS optimism (but disney would still need to earn that trust and respect going forwards) - but this looks like more of the same sludge and people are DONE.

[@FuImaDragon]

@@chrisallen9638 you can still access API data. There are exemptions for research as long as you agree not to share data. you get several people who have access to data who are willing to share. you then compare all data sets to look for anomalies. anomalies are usually traps used to find out who leaks what. throw the anomalies out and compare all data and you have an accurate number that can't be traced back to any one person, thus protecting sources. basic corpo espionage. Edit: best part is, it isn't technically illegal.

[@FuImaDragon]

@@chrisallen9638 also, office culture at Disney is pretty bad right now. lotta burnt out and pissed off workers looking to stick it to their bosses. they are leaking data right and left.

[@Collaps_ing]

Congrats on a million bro! Been watching you for years it makes me so happy to see so many people love your content too!

[@joshpeck9266]

Keep in mind people prob don’t dislike as much because it’s harder to see the like button or u just can’t

[@wordwyrd]

I presume it's related to Headland, bith her statements and history with Weinstein.

[@PrinceDaemonTargaryen]

And the apparent genocide of white people

[@natedavis1125]

I don’t know why they don’t make shows like Rogue Squadron or the Old Republic

[@mittensfastpaw]

Get well soon my friend! We will see how it goes!

[@Sam-jx8tv]

I just can't be excited anymore for Disney era star wars. I can only be pleasantly surprised.

[@rossburney8713]

I'll wait for trusted people to tell me this is worth it before I watch it.

[@imsidi]

I disliked the trailer mainly because it feels like it's going to be a "Kenobi show" and not a "Andor show" if you catch my drift.

[@shadowtrooper3764]

The creatives involved make me think it'll probably be somewhere between Mando and Andor tone wise.

[@random135246]

No i dont, what does that even mean? Andor fans are something else

[@datguy3581]

It's worth noting that Andor had a 250 million dollar budget. I don't think having shows at the caliber is sustainable for Disney+.

[@imsidi]

@@random135246 No need to be so disrespectful and hateful just because I gave my opinion dude. Chill out.

[@imsidi]

@@datguy3581 I would agree with you if they didn't spend $300mil to make The Dial of Destiny, or $25mil to make an episode of Hawkeye or WandaVision. They haven't cared about budgets for a while, and while those seem big, you have shows like Friends that were $10mil an episode just for them to sit in an apartment, lol.

[@joshuamagee2272]

thanks for the video get well soon man🖤

[@Blircos]

Thank you so much for this video. Super informative! I will be probably be spreading this video around whenever I have the chance :)

[@TheWorldMemeDatabase]

I use the extension as more of a ballpark. I think you can definitely say this trailer was not universally well received, and probably has a substantially larger number of dislikes than your average trailer. I don't get hung up on the exact number or even whether it has more dislikes than likes.

[@JLandmaster]

Disney lost my trust after Book of Boba Fett… Then Obi-Wan… Then season 3 of Mando… too many misses to even bother at this point.

[@RedElm747]

Boba Fett was disappointing but kenobi was heart breaking. I haven't even watched any star wars since and have just been checking in from time to time.

[@JLandmaster]

@@Blodhelm I’m sorry to say but I’m of the opinion that it’s dead. Someone else would have to buy it and say “all the Disney stuff is not canon” for me to trust it at this point.

[@thatrandomnoob8611]

There was something in between Obi Wan and Mando S3. I’m trying to think… oh wait that was Andor which is the best piece of Star Wars media ever released and Better than the OT. Disney really has little to do with the ups and downs of lucasfilm. Disney mostly just approves or disapproves of projects proposed to them and figures out release schedules. Blame Lucasfilm for the issues. Also I like BoBF a lot. It’s my second favorite of the live action shows behind Andor.

[@StarWarsInfinite]

congrats on one million!

[@oleunis7921]

#AskEck: Do you have any battle breakdowns planned for the future? I discovered this channel through your battle breakdown of Jakku and I would love to see more in the future, there are still plenty of space battles in this universe that you haven't covered, like the battle of Batoon, and I wish you could continue my favourite series on this channel.

[@pixels_per_minute]

I just thought it was "meh." Not bad or good, just something I didn't need to go and watch.

[@Qdobafett]

I searched for the acolyte trailer and What I saw recommended more was like 3 channels do videos about how it was the Kathleen Kennedy South Park episode. “Put a chick in it and make her gay”. Which at this point after Andor, Kenobi and mando being about male characters I’m just convinced those people will be upset anytime a woman is cast in general. All of those videos were also about the dislikes and were saying that it proves their whole thing. One of the thumbnails said “they just finally killed Star Wars.” With Kathleen Kennedy and the South Park characters 😅

[@gilangthehuman7713]

Disney's writing for their female cast always felt awful. It's genuinely funny

[@straybardart]

Yeah, If I had a nickel for every time a Star Wars fan said “they killed Star Wars” especially when Star Wars add diversity to their cast, casts a woman, or has an anti-capitalist anti oppression story - I would have a lot of nickels.

[@pepperedash4424]

Kenobi was upstaged by Reva, Mando Season 3 was upstaged by Bo Katan, and BoBF was upstaged by Fennec Shand.

[@Doc41295]

Since the announcement of the acolyte series I've been the most hopeful about it of any new star wars series. I generally love those dark sider oriented stories because there's so few of them. After the trailer though I'm really not excited about it anymore. It looks very bland and safe to me. I don't want a story about bad guys to be safe and I don't want an "actually they're the good guys" narrative either. I want a dark side story to be, well, dark, and I don't think Disney has the balls to do it right.

[@gilangthehuman7713]

I just want them to execute good ideas properly. Disney's handling of female cast has very few good one.

[@realjoaquin2244]

I freakin love eckhartsladder bro

[@Darmoth85]

Bro, the last few years have been painful.

[@the7observer]

Fans being frustated at Disney + trailer being meh + high republic trilogy being shit = people having very low expectations and thinking it will be shit COnsidering how Disney stil haven't changed I am not willing to give it a chance

[@Coconut-219]

Shills: "Why are you calling it Woke!?" Translation: "I'm mad that you are displaying basic human pattern recognition"

[@SetreeAnimus]

@@Coconut-219 Woke is nebulous and meaningless. I don’t even bother regarding people who use it unironically because it’s never the same definition or it’s a shorthand for just being mad at seeing minorities

[@pepperedash4424]

This is perhaps the best take I have seen so far in this comment section.

[@rigatenes338]

How TF is the High Republic shit? It has some of the best comics and novels in all of star wars.

[@the7observer]

@@rigatenes338 i said "high repulbic TRILOGY" AKA the 3 shitty movies

[@TrueKoalaKnight]

No matter how thy explain it, it'll be convoluted. I have no confidence they will do anything truly clever.

[@spencerdenney1573]

I am interested in seeing The Acolyte but I'm very worried about the lore implications with the Sith and what not. I just hope they don't ruin this like so many other shows. And I don't think it's gonna be all that great. I want it to be. But currently if it's not Andor or a Dave Filoni show. I'm not having high hopes about it

[@jonnysmith341]

acolytes is going to be trash. Just wait my Padawan

[@crocrivers9039]

People when the trailer doesn’t spoil everything 😡

[@dylanwarner7009]

Yeah I agree with the point on power usage for interdictors, considering you’re basically bending physics it would probably use so much power it would compromise the ships ability to perform other functions in a fleet

[@generalsmite7167]

I find interdictors interesting especially in canon. So far as I know there have been mines from the unknown region, a prototype star destroyer interdictor from earlier empire, and the interdictor cruiser. I hope they have the thrawn pincer in future content

[@grandmoffrex]

My take away from the trailer: That’s a lot of Jedi in a show about the sith

[@StraightOtohGunga]

Yup!

[@miqvPL]

of course people are negatively charged towards it. Any good faith old fans had was depleted gradually through the years. And the trailer like you said wasn't anything special, it told us close to nothing and if it used some of the best scenes in the show (like trailers usually did in the past) then it's gonna be another mudslide at best and another Kenobi at worst.

[@datguy3581]

I feel like old fans need to accept that Star Wars isn't what they want it to be. It's been years.

[@miqvPL]

@@datguy3581 well they want star wars to be good or at least on a similar quality level to the prequels. And there can be good star wars made. Andor is the most recent example of good star wars. Sadly since Andor we've been getting horseshit quality shows, again.

[@GonnaDieNever]

​@@datguy3581Of course it's not what we want it to be and that's why we dislike it lol.

[@datguy3581]

@@miqvPL The prequels weren't good though. The only reason they're liked is because people grew up with them. In reality, the prequels are in the same boat as the sequels. Younger audiences like them. Older audiences don't. I agree that Andor is better then the other recent Star Wars material but I'd argue that Star Wars hasn't been great since the end of the OT with a few exceptions.

[@datguy3581]

@@GonnaDieNever Then what's the point in engaging with all this if you don't like it?

[@monkofbob]

What does “volume” mean in this case of colour?

[@deadeye4047]

Hey Eck, Just a fun question amidst the turmoil, but if you were a pilot in the SWU, what Ugly would you create to make the perfect personal starfighter?

[@gideonplays814]

This show looks extremely uninteresting. I don’t really care

[@legoworldstudios1323]

It’s literally star wars eternals

[@Makocat]

Agreed. And it's always the same. Trailer comes out. People dislike it with good reasons, They blame them for not liking it. Tell them not to watch it. Nobody watches, more blame game. Rinse and repeat. That's why I just wait months to watch stuff now. Hype is dead and I have better things to do and games to play. At least personally I'm in no rush.

[@Starwarsfan066]

Agreed

[@hachelyd_i3232]

They could’ve made more BATTLEFRONT content with that 49 million😭😭😭

[@hachelyd_i3232]

@@everettjohnson9374Nah, this looks trash & so is everything else Star Wars related in 2023/24

[@Necromancer4267]

Filoni has been aping Legends at every turn for decades. How could anyone think otherwise? Of course he's going to "steer" towards legends, whatever that means, by stealing the ideas he likes, watering them down, cutting out all incredibly important and nuanced context, and splashing on the most bland, Sequel-esque paint on them. He's been doing exactly that for decades.

[@cameronhermann9400]

Everything Disney has made has broken the lore in minor and major ways. Gone are the days when fans eagerly anticipated new content, now everything is waited on with a sense of dredd

[@Nemo-Nihil]

Don't feed the bears!

[@RealFacts639]

love the vids man, truly, i know everyone just says this but i truly mean it, best sw channel out there.

[@Inflatedchair]

about 5 seconds looked like star wars everything else is just generic space fantasy i was very disappointed

[@EnderOfFlops]

Star wars IS generic space fantasy with soap opera elements...

[@Inflatedchair]

@@EnderOfFlops yes but it is a very special generic space fantasy this trailer could be a star trek trailer if you remove a couple of seconds

[@pepperedash4424]

@@EnderOfFlops Generic? Unoriginal, sure. But Star Wars is just a hodge-podge of different media some nerd took an interest in. It even has its own aesthetic.

[@NOSHER]

Hope your health improves and you get back to 100% soon

[@InsanePits]

Hope you feel better brother.

[@Sc0ts]

I'm very intrigued by The Acolyte. I hope that it is good and does good so that we'll get new Star Wars content not so centered around the same few decades of the galaxy that is really beginning to get bloated.

[@avatarmufasa3628]

@@Blodhelm and? having any content that isnt the main block that is usual star wars seems fine. You just seem to have made up your mind that the show is gonna suck. the fact old republic exists doesnt matter for this conversation

[@3ofSpades]

It’s like all Disney knows how to write with Star Wars are a bunch of evil and edgy jerks and they refuse to make any stories about the Sith or the Empire and just try to make a bunch of unlikeable “good guys.” Just watch Pirates of the Caribbean and you’ll get what I mean. “If you’re good at something, never do it.” -Disney

[@xSuperFryx]

Empire is in every story bro they work best as the villains

[@JainaSoloB312]

The Sith and the Empire are the villains for the vast majority of stories Disney made since 2012, literally what the fuck are you talking about

[@khanburger3610]

4:30 The reason the First two seasons of Mando looked so good on the volume was Greig Fraser. He knew how to shoot using it. He also was the cinematographer for the Batman, which also used the volume. He left after season 2 of Mando, so ever since then every show using the volume looks...... like it does. So yes the volume isn't to blame, just the people who don't know how to use it. Need to have a "how to shoot on the volume class" led by Greig Fraser. lol

[@ahsoka_polo]

Ima give it a try

[@caleberickson5829]

It's one of those shows im going to forget it's coming out until its out cuz nothing makes me excited for the show

[@thunderkhajiit910]

Star Wars was destroyed the moment Jake skywalker casually threw dad’s lightsaber over his shoulder in TLJ.

[@straybardart]

Even if you aren’t as excited Eck, I do thank you for keeping an open mind regarding the acolyte.

[@watcherzero5256]

Yeah on the early Imperial Interdictor designs the gravity well generators were so power hungry and bulky they took up most of the ship leaving little space and power for conventional armament. They did get miniaturised over the decades such that they could be fitted inside ships still possessing a conventional armament. I think also they were so expensive and vital assets that they never expected them to be deployed on the frontline in combat and they would always be in a fleets supply train. In the novels rather than only working at short range and bringing a ship out of hyperspace right on top of themselves they had an effective jamming range across an entire star system so any ship brought out would have to cross the system at relativistic speeds taking hours or possibly even days in order to engage them.

[@Nerdvanna98]

Star Wars as an IP has been mismanaged to the grave. The trailer left me with nothing, and I didn't even bother to dislike it because I don't care anymore.

[@russianinvader3207]

Please do dislike it.

[@Stragus_Macleod]

Pretty sure canon book fans will disagree with that, but I suppose that most people don't get that exposure.

[@Coconut-219]

@@Stragus_Macleod Why would they be exited? They should be dreading what Disney is going to do to bastardize 'old canon' and make a worse adaptations of it. As a fan of the EU novels I would want them to stay as far away as possible from it.

[@pepperedash4424]

@@Stragus_Macleod Are there any canon book fans left at this point? The book's sales for canon material are to be covered by public libraries.

[@nahman3836]

​@@Stragus_Macleodwhere are these canon book fans you speak of?

[@thadream_13_10]

I’m very interested in the high republic era. The trailer looks fine to me.

[@jamesknight3070]

Let's hope they're saving the best announcement for Star Wars Day, aka May the Fourth Be With You. If not, I have Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks to look forward to.

[@zulubunsen9067]

I honestly thought the extension was still getting the actual dislike numbers. The dislike-bias in the extrapolated data does make sense, that's good to know.

[@zalabit927]

One just needs to take a look at Leslye Headland to know this ain't worth it.

[@shadowtrooper3764]

She's made me more hopeful for the series? Russian Doll was a great series and everything she's said about the show so far has been exciting. I don't know about you, but a Rashomon-esque story in a Star Wars setting sounds great.

[@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime]

@@shadowtrooper3764He’s just a misogynist bro. He literally judging the girl off how she looks. Don’t bother engaging, he’s got that Geeks and Gamers logic.

[@wdude04]

@@BigMan.270 What's wrong with diversity?

[@starwarsdan9640]

@@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime You do realise that she was the assistant to Harvey Weinstein, she has done more damage to women than this man on the internet you call a “misogynist”

[@zalabit927]

@@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime What's the geeks and gamers logic?

[@TJW206]

It’s a trend now to literally shit on something before it comes out. But then again Disney has been shocking star wars out since the last Jedi. The only acception is andor.

[@Coconut-219]

Pattern recognition. Modern "writers" love to talk about "subverting expectations" but if they actually wanted to subvert our expectations how about they try WRITING SOMETHING GOOD because that would be the most surprising thing they could possibly do at this point.

[@Gooseygoose14]

You know what the problem is? Jedi! How cool would a show based just on the Sith be? Darth Bane and the Rule of Two or during Revan’s time when Sith were legion

[@godboy114]

Im still excited to watch it, i was cautious on Andor, but it turned out great.

[@darkraven5106]

I'm gonna wait for more stuff, but the trailer did not really entice me to look forward to it.

[@garbotoxins840]

This is a good take. People watch a trailer and then imagine what the whole show is and get mad about what they imagined.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

I'm cautiously optimistic, as obi-wan would say.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

@@Blodhelm 😂

[@lucaskobain]

I saw the trailer for the first time, didn't hate it but couldn't understand what it was about. Then I saw it a second time and still couldn't figure out what the hell it was about. Not a single glimpse of the plot (granted, I like SW but I am not the most into-the-expanded-universe guy, and not the brightest observer). That is my biggesst gripe about it. I'll give it a try, but might not end the whole season (specialized critics will mean play its part too)

[@lightspeedvictory]

#AskEck What do we know of the development of the Venator? Was it ready at the outset of the Clone Wars or did it enter service sometime after it began? And what did the Republic Navy have before the Venator (and by extension, the Victory) came into service that could stand up to Seperatist capital ships? Lore ship Versus video request: Resurgent vs. Starhawk Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version) Keldabe vs. ISD II MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser EAWX: FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator Praetor vs. Subjugator EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent Starhawk vs. Bulwark MK III Gargantua/Aratech 520 Battle Platform vs. A6 Juggernaut

[@spideysg1163]

Honestly I just feel like the reason so many people are skeptical of the acolyte is because the past few Disney+ Star Wars shows haven’t been all that great so people think that trend will continue with the acolyte. Here’s my take, it’s kinda similar to this: Let’s say you have a favorite sports team and the new season is about to start, however you have very little faith in said team, why? Because in the last 5 seasons they have had losing seasons and missed the playoffs, so while the new season could be different, it could also be similar to the other 5 seasons in counting a trend of being a bad team that has a losing season and misses the playoffs. Now back to the acolyte, while it’s new and while it could be good, the last few shows Disney has done with Star Wars hasn’t been good so I do not have faith this show will be good even though it could be good, I still don’t have too much faith that it will be good. That’s just my take though.

[@unincognito3689]

what do you mean "last few shows"? Mandalorian, Andor, Bad Batch, Ahsoka, Tales of the Jedi, Visions. Were all great. I liked the others too but I know they are less popular so I left them out. But those 6? Majority liked no?

[@thecoolestbean4688]

​@@unincognito3689Book of Boba Fett, Mando season 3, Kenobi, and Ahsoka was mid

[@shadowtrooper3764]

@@unincognito3689 Agreed. There's been some mediocre stuff for sure, but I've enjoyed the majority of what's been made.

[@random135246]

I don't think this is actually true though. Despite what certain circles online would say Ahsoka was well liked and well received. Andor was good, and Mando is 2 for 3. season 3 wasnt even atrocious it just wasn't great. BOBF and Kenobi had their issues, but i feel like the disappointment for what they could have been overshadows their good elements.

[@datguy3581]

I don't think that's quite fair. There was nothing in the trailer that was a major red flag. The Acolyte is getting undeserved hate when what people are really mad about is Kenobi, BOBF, and Mando season 3.

[@Rohnon]

Honestly I'm not even interested in the Acolyte. Didn't watch the trailer and won't watch the show. I've been disapointed too much latetly by Star Wars

[@gilangthehuman7713]

Jump to 40k Brother

[@Rohnon]

@@gilangthehuman7713 My Brother, my life is completely dedicated to Khorne

[@nickywags0712]

#AskEck do you think that the new canon will follow up on any of the Unknown Regions concepts being developed by Timothy Zahn in the Thrawn Ascendancy and imperial Thrawn books (like the Grisk threat or the protégé officers like Vanto, Faro, or Pelleon). It almost seems like they are setting up new canon versions of Empire of the Hand and unknown region threats but ignoring it in more official media in favor of High Republic connections instead

[@Dombledore11]

My biggest gripe with the trailer is that there is little to no hint as to the premise of the story, it’s basically: “ooo there’s someone with a red lightsaber, red bad, Jedi good”

[@sdunn5643]

Fandom for Star Wars is over the top toxic but this is what you get when you combine social media and the selling out of a well loved franchise to a clueless media conglomerate like disney. Personally the movie series ended with Return of the Jedi and the outlier that is Rogue One.

[@willythemailboy2]

The trailer interested me about as much as a bowl of hospital lime jello.

[@Ryza20]

This really looks like a show

[@The_Flamekeepers]

The high republic novels are excellent. IDK why it would be controversial. The only negativity i've heard about The Acolyte is that it will be woke.

[@karrde5566]

f disney sw is dead

[@awesomeguy9513]

Kinda seemed bland from the trailer, not really interested in high republic but if there was a republic show old republic wouldn’t have this dislike issue. If you could have acolyte or a KOTR/old republic show I mean come on a darth revan story arc it’s a no brainer man, also get a director who puts Star Wars and a solid plot first

[@datguy3581]

I don't think anything in the trailer is exceptional but it does seem strange that this show got the level of hate it does. There's nothing in here that makes it seem worse then the other Disney+ star wars shows (minus Andor of course).

[@datguy3581]

@@Blodhelm Do you have any evidence that Headland was involved in Weinstein's criminal activity?

[@FuImaDragon]

@@datguy3581 Honestly, i think people are just fed up with Disney. They just have been pushing so many products out these last 4 years i think people are just burned out with seeing so much Star Wars and Marvel. I know i have stopped watching hero movies because i just get bored now. even with ones that used to interest me and i have on dvd.

[@gilangthehuman7713]

I see no point in acolyte. The theme is already explained in the Prequels and some shows. Jedi became complacent, yadda yadda it destroyed them. If anything, i want the show to be an even older version of the republic. Where war is an actual war, like during tcw

[@datguy3581]

@@gilangthehuman7713 I think this show might end up being more dark side focused then the trailer lets on.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

As a millennial I grew up with the OT and with the rumor or future movies to come. I grew up reading and loving the EU novels, many of which were pretty pulpy and introduced technology and lore that was never adopted into canon. A lot of those books were OK, many weren’t that great, but a select few were awesome. I am *SO* glad to live in a world where movies and TV shows set in the Star Wars galaxy are relatively normal. Some are good some are OK and some are awesome, but all are Star Wars, which is what I love. I don’t know much about the High Republic and I look forward to exploring the ancient past of the Star Wars galaxy. While I hope they don’t try to connect too much with the Skywalker Saga, I won’t be too disappointed if there are threads to connect to two eras.

[@sevensightt]

#AskEck First off, congrats on one million, i subbed on my old account and kinda miss the old intro. Anyway, I’d like to know what you think about the “de-infantilization” of Star Wars, with Andor and how well received it was.

[@SeaofinK]

Lucas Film is a complete mess. Leslye Headland was a terrible choice for Star Wars in this moment. Did anyone at Disney watch the South Park episode?

[@BerserkerNosaj]

A note about the dislikes, I for one would have made it a point to dislike it if dislikes were still a thing on KZbin. As they are not, I didn’t even bother watching the trailer. I watch your videos because I enjoy your content. I comment on videos like this to let the world know how much I hate modern Star Wars and Disney. Still hoping Disney will get forced to sell star wars to avoid bankruptcy. That or lucasfilm leadership changing so much it may as well have been sold are the only things that will make me consider giving new Star Wars content a chance.

[@xcaptainpunchxz3811]

I don’t have any hate towards the high republic but it’s lucas films/disneys own fault that no one really cares about it, all they’ve done is release mid books (which most casual fans don’t read) and have a couple mentions of it in other media, no reason to get hyped about the high republic or anything surrounding it since most casual fans aren’t interested in it

[@Coconut-219]

Yeah I don't have hard feelings one way or the other on any 'era' of the SW timeline, I just know what regardless of time period it is statistically likely that modern writers are going to be incapable of doing it justice.

[@unclebozo9845]

I will be holding my judgement until I watch the whole series. I think it has potential, but obviously we can't know from just a single trailer.

[@Vigil325]

The fandom menace is back in full force lmao

[@thestarkknightreturns]

I honestly liked the trailer. It gave off some major "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" vibes. Plus it presented us with an Asian Jedi Master (I know the Squid Game guy is South Korean, but still), which in light of Star Wars inspiration by samurai movies is awesome.

[@Bread-nx9fo]

If they do the Sith well then I'll be happy with it.

[@JorgeBorges_00]

I am just not really interested in it. I don't see anything star warsy about it beyond the light sticks. It's just not for me

[@Mpcooner]

I will celebrate if Disney ever sells the rights to Star Wars.

[@mattofsmegpoop3027]

The volume just get all your new and up and coming directors and camera people on there to mess around with it for a couple weeks. So there is no pressure and fewer problems with future productions

[@walnzell9328]

I swear the dislikes used to just be hidden but easily accessible. So now it seems KZbin went even further and made it impossible to find the dislikes.

[@Coconut-219]

'The truth fears no investigation'

[@noahzavala7101]

I pray we finally get a much and far great Star Wars series or project that has good writing and people actually die from lightsabers.

[@wallraven55]

Watch Andor

[@officerna4sty]

Good luck getting that out of woke commie disney

[@khal7702]

good writing...no way😊

[@RevanImmortal]

Thank you for this clarification. It seemed really surprising to me that there were so many dislikes, so the extension use context was helpful. I am personally really excited for the Acolyte and I don't understand why people have to have on things before they even are released.

[@leonrussell9607]

Because it looks trash, Disney shills are not star wars fans

[@SuperGoose42]

Because it hurts less to have low expectations met than it does to get your hopes up time after time and get burned, then get called a bigot for being disappointed. It would be like if your favorite restaurant got a new chef and completely changed the menu, but whenever you voice your discontent, the staff and half the customers shout at you and tell you to get out, and that you were never a true fan of the restaurant.

[@garbotoxins840]

​@@ondrejm5042the cast is filled with accomplished actors, the jedi master was even the star of squid game. They didn't pick random people off the street, they picked real professional actors. You're just racist.

[@russianinvader3207]

Well then,be ready to get disappointed.

[@StraightOtohGunga]

​@@SuperGoose42perfect analogy

[@AlaskaSkull]

#AskEck So I recently started watching all of star wars start to finish and when watching Episode 2 it is stated that the Jedi Council did not know about the creation of the clone army. I don't remember if it was in Ep 1 or 2 but it is also mentioned that the Jedi have recently lost some power in the force. A dead jedi is the one responsible for the creation of the clone army. The question is why would the Jedi Council have allowed the use of the clones in such a wide spread war without knowing without a shadow of a doubt that it was actually a jedi who placed the order. It just seems so naive to me that the Jedi, especially Yoda of all, wouldn't find it oddly convenient that the Clones are discovered at such a critical moment.

[@TipsySpinda]

I'm cautiously optimistic

[@mrbigglezworth42]

Look man, when they refer to show as saying that it's not about good or evil, but about power I know it's like the show was written by Sith. That's something Sith say before they start chopping down younglings.