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@powwowken2760
@powwowken2760 Ай бұрын
The people saying Sneasler is as bad or worse than Urshifu are just plain wrong. Sneasler you can 100% play around in numerous ways... Meanwhile Urshifu ignores Protect and Defense boosts, there is no counterplay outside of team select, people just have Stockholm Syndrome in regards to Urshifu.
@thedoomdragon2895
@thedoomdragon2895 Ай бұрын
Both are terrible, sneasler is wayyy too luck dependent while Urshifu is wayyy too tool dependent. I personally consider sneasler as worse because you could have consistent counterplay to Urshifu
@Staticsheep28
@Staticsheep28 Ай бұрын
​@thedoomdragon2895 You have more counterplay versus sneasler tho. The entire reason Urshifu is broken is because there's so little counterplay against it.
@bromeethere
@bromeethere Ай бұрын
This comment will pop up for the rest of the duration of the regulation huh. We get it.
@LAIDDN24
@LAIDDN24 Ай бұрын
yeah until you got sleep by it which mostly happen to me
@renansm6691
@renansm6691 Ай бұрын
A Pokémon that ignores protect vs a pokémon that maybe puts you to sleep. I take Sneasler over Urshifu any day
@UnoriginalFish
@UnoriginalFish Ай бұрын
Except urshifu is often hyper offensive and will go down quickly while unburden random sleep will end your game. Urshifu is broken but consistent.
@stucc3054
@stucc3054 Ай бұрын
@@UnoriginalFish I mean Sneasler also goes down quickly? Sneasler is inconsistently broken as it is only broken when its status lands to being very good in general when it doesn't on the other hand Urshifu is as you say just straight consistently broken therefore the stronger Pokemon and harder matchup unless you're arguing Sneasler is more annoying which I could see where you're coming from with Sneaslers rng elements, other than that Urshifu's more dominant and harder to deal with imo.
@Shimahou
@Shimahou Ай бұрын
​@@UnoriginalFish I think I see where you're coming from. Going against Sneasler leaves you having to gamble if you don't happen to have Covert Cloak to block status from Dire Claw. Meanwhile, Urshifu is actually broken, but you can at least more accurately predict what's going to happen since you don't have to plan for random sleep or paralysis.
@IAmPhos548
@IAmPhos548 Ай бұрын
Dire Claw's effect rate is a little ridiculous and does deserve a nerf tbh, but Urshifu is more broken imo because it invalidates one of the core mechanics of the game that is crucial to doubles in protect (and any intimidate drops with the sig moves). Sleep, para, and poison have counterplay, bypassing protect does not.
@Revoltine
@Revoltine Ай бұрын
It's not just Protect. Crit hits invalidates stat changes from everything except burn. You know what Protect and stat manipulation have in common? They affect board positioning, which is one of the most dynamic aspect of VGC. Urshifu slaps it on the face and shits on it with no remorse.
@itssaturday1443
@itssaturday1443 Ай бұрын
Dire claw is OK. I don’t think it should be changed.
@xdferocious6016
@xdferocious6016 Ай бұрын
That thumbnail sure is something 😂
@EarthSpirit.easyzdota
@EarthSpirit.easyzdota Ай бұрын
Weird looking pokemon
@Eroil
@Eroil Ай бұрын
​@@EarthSpirit.easyzdotamodern Pokemon designs smh
@pokelover02
@pokelover02 Ай бұрын
It’s cute haha
@EarthSpirit.easyzdota
@EarthSpirit.easyzdota Ай бұрын
@@pokelover02 and rosemary is there too
@TheBestWooper
@TheBestWooper Ай бұрын
Jesus Christ here we go again, for the last time please look at practically every gen one pokemon compared to more recent mons (except gen 6, that's the only new gen that has poorly designed mons)​@@Eroil
@banditrests
@banditrests Ай бұрын
I think it’s kind of under appreciated how good corv is as a coaching target, mirror armor makes it nearly impossible to slow down, even more so than clear body or any of the other stat dropping abilities
@banditrests
@banditrests Ай бұрын
Here’s a dumb tentacruel idea for you- it has clear body and its attack is only 10 points lower than its special attack, and it has swords dance. Physical tentacruel.
@cxncxrtmxstxr
@cxncxrtmxstxr Ай бұрын
​@@banditrestsis Tentacruel’s moveset any good
@banditrests
@banditrests Ай бұрын
@@cxncxrtmxstxrit’s not bad but tbh, poison jab/gunk shot and liquidation for stab, swords dance, acid armor, knock off, haze, flip turn, it’s got some stuff it can do
@FULLM3T8L
@FULLM3T8L Ай бұрын
Weavile is one of the coolest-looking Pokemon out there, it sucks seeing it's Dr. Seuss counterpart in the limelight...
@noahthecrazy1632
@noahthecrazy1632 Ай бұрын
Urshifu has 3 counters 1:Burn 2:Wo-chien atk drop 3:shell armor It has a few other options Effect spore, rocky helmet, iron barbs/rough skin, flame body, and maybe tricking the *protective pads* item or *long reach* ability on to it to remove its contact moves to nullify ability. Sneasler has many easy counters 1: covert cloak 2: lum berry 3: chesto berry 4: insomnia 5: misty terrain 6: Tera steel (most common Tera) 7: maybe trick the sheer force ability onto it if you are desperate 8: fast psychic attackers 9: make the community have a mutual agreement to not use sneasler.
@MikeKing001
@MikeKing001 Ай бұрын
Tera steel? It's a fighting type with access to close combat. You know it learns more moves then just dire claw right?
@alexleighton6552
@alexleighton6552 Ай бұрын
I would argue Tera ghost is more popular than Tera steel. And Tera steel just opens you up to getting K/O’d by CC. That being said I’d still rather play Urshifu than Sneasler.
@samrahman2973
@samrahman2973 Ай бұрын
Honestly I feel raging bolt was created to counter urshifu. A mon with insane sp atk and a priority move to clap it back
@17AJ06
@17AJ06 Ай бұрын
I’ve been using Sneasler on Showdown and have yet to get a sleep or paralyze with Dire Claw. I’ve gotten only poison or nothing at all lol
@rileyackison4495
@rileyackison4495 Ай бұрын
Tbf you have 2 chances to get poison assuming you are poison touch.
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz Ай бұрын
As people are saying, Poison Touch? I wonder if Poison Touch is calculated first. Can Poison Touch get through Covert Cloak? Hmm...
@Shimahou
@Shimahou Ай бұрын
​@@KasaazPoison Touch is considered after Dire Claw, so you have two chances to Poison your target. Poison Touch is also an ability which Covert Cloak does *not* block.
@SaucyCheeseburgerwithRanch
@SaucyCheeseburgerwithRanch Ай бұрын
Yeah I try to use Dire claw but it does not work for me it feels like I usually get nothing or like just paralysis
@mrsuicidepig389
@mrsuicidepig389 Ай бұрын
​@Kasaaz poison touch goes second if a pokemon has a lum berry and is hit with Dire claw they can get statuses by claw heal and still get poisoned by poison touch after on the one turn
@cadenkillgore6244
@cadenkillgore6244 Ай бұрын
Pokemon is such an interesting game because unlike something like call of duty, really dominant strong things aren’t getting patched to be weaker ever few weeks, so when something dominates it could stick around for an entire generation or several generations… or forever The players themselves are the balancing force as they find pokemon, movesets, ev spreads, ect. that are specially designed to stop certain dominant threats
@spacerace1448
@spacerace1448 Ай бұрын
33:20 scald was SOO broken in singles. It was always so free to click and it was so common that you were at a disadvantage if you used more than 1 physical that could be burned. Iykyk
@CaseyOwens-e1u
@CaseyOwens-e1u Ай бұрын
There’s so much counter play to dire claw, people just haven’t built teams properly. Sneasler is not urshifu
@OnlyNeedJuan
@OnlyNeedJuan Ай бұрын
Ah, sneasler hate, VGC finally found out about what smogon singles players hated for a while now lol.
@babygrill01
@babygrill01 Ай бұрын
Smogon formats are way more unbalanced than vgc because lack of item clause, damage rolls being overly favorable to defense at level 100, 6v6 compared to 4v4 per battle, vgc has OTS now and the fundamental nature of double battles means that cores are more dynamic to play around than 1 pokemon versus 1 pokemon. Sneasler is only relevant now in spite of being around for over a year because the power level is very low and even then there's way more problem solving available than smogon. It's unclear if Gamefreak is always making design decisions in mind for vgc but they sure as heck aren't thinking about the fan-made format hence ban after ban
@FlamingZelda3
@FlamingZelda3 Ай бұрын
@@babygrill01 someone pushed a button bud?
@djmalic3
@djmalic3 Ай бұрын
As babygrill reiterated, now that we have regulation H WITH no legendaries… what so ever, more Pokemon will stand out like sneasler , once the power creep is back (after regulation H) nobody will talk about that ugly ass Pokemon, it’s not bad, but it’s very rng dependent, I still think Urshi’s are worse for vgc and Smogon, should do like 25-50% dmg through protect instead of 100%
@OnlyNeedJuan
@OnlyNeedJuan Ай бұрын
@@babygrill01 my least favorite bit has to be it's 6v6 and not a pick 4, means you can sometimes effectively be down a mon before the game starts, making creativity in teambuilding stifled, you can't bring something that can occasionally be useful, everything needs to always work
@babygrill01
@babygrill01 Ай бұрын
@@OnlyNeedJuan While I do understand that 4v4 can result in the game feeling pre-determind and match up volatile at times, limiting the roster speeds up the time of matches because you don't have as many opportunities to switch into differing attacks so it's a cost I'm personally willing to take. The lower the power level format is (as reg H is), the more you can get away with occasionally useful.
@Staticsheep28
@Staticsheep28 Ай бұрын
I legit made a team with avalug recently on a sableye bulky offensive team to prove a point. Now this person proved it even harder, that nearly any pokemon can work in the current meta.
@Soizit_Blindy
@Soizit_Blindy Ай бұрын
It seems like lower power formats are healthier for the game. Any thoughts on never actually reintroducing restricted Pokemon? I know its unlikely but players seem to have alot more fun in these types of regulations. And as a newer viewer of VGC I find this format way more interesting then the more centralised style of restricted regulations.
@Stinkbug_Ab
@Stinkbug_Ab Ай бұрын
Love this podcast lots its become a weekly routine for me
@1113jackchen
@1113jackchen Ай бұрын
The moment I saw Power Trip Corviknight I thought he accidentally brought an OU set 😂
@Savings_and_Grift_Plan
@Savings_and_Grift_Plan Ай бұрын
26:35 Flapple's signature move - GravApple also gets a 50% boost from the effects of gravity.
@ajbXYZcool
@ajbXYZcool Ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't know Crovinight got Power Trip. It's an early level up move on an early route mon in Sword/shield, very easy to see.
@VerbalLearning
@VerbalLearning Ай бұрын
on Nekkra's point of finding a "lite" version of a pokemon from Reg G to use in Reg H. I think Vikavolt while of course very different, is the closest thing regulation H has to Miradon in terms of raw firepower. Pair it with a ground type or telepathy pokemon, give it a choice specs and Discharge/Volt Switch can do some serious damage.
@Rockwell_a810g
@Rockwell_a810g Ай бұрын
Super sharp point about the physical water mons! Oger-Water Urshifu Dozo Basculegion Tauros Heck even Quaquaval and Poliwrath😂😂😂😂
@DylanmeetWorld
@DylanmeetWorld Ай бұрын
I like roses opinion
@banditrests
@banditrests Ай бұрын
If you could pick any single target special water move that’s currently signature to distribute to more Pokémon, what would it be? Snipe shot would make sense on a lot of things.
@baeruttgaming4779
@baeruttgaming4779 Ай бұрын
I risked my GC II rating and it did not pay off lol. Hope y'all didn't get too tilted
@Andoverx
@Andoverx 27 күн бұрын
Choice scarf reckless Staraptor with Brave Bird eats the grassy seed/psychic seed Sneasler sets.
@matthewshiell822
@matthewshiell822 Ай бұрын
Sneazler has a hard counter with gholdengo. Yes sneazler can learn throat chop but if you know that you can play around it. And most dont run it anyway. Urshifu just kills mechanics of the game.
@mettataurr
@mettataurr Ай бұрын
look man i havent played a game of competitive pokemon in my life but the fact that urshifu doesnt inflict sleep/paralysis/poison with surging strikes is ridiculous. buff urshifu to have dire strikes (see whut i did dere?)
@vicctretamaj
@vicctretamaj Ай бұрын
Incineroar and Sneasler are just Flirting vs Harassment Incin is good at what it does, and will forever be good, kinda ridiculous with what it can do, but it’s consistent enough that you KNOW what it will do. It’s not degenerate, it’s just really strong and fits a very good role. Tho with the viability of other fire types finally getting there, we see him a bit less (tho he’s still my goat lol) Sneasler can do a handful of things, but Dire Claw pushes it over the edge with being annoying to deal with. That random factor that’s 50% possible is like “I’m going to lose this unless X happens, might as well dire claw and potentially win the exchange” the rest of the Mon is just good, and I’d take that if Dire claw wasn’t so consistently…random? You know what I mean right? I don’t like Urshifu either, I think he’s waaay too overturned. However, I suppose it also fills a similar role to Incin, where it just kinda does a thing really well. Maybe a bit too well, but still, not nearly as random as dire clawing something and being put in a winning position just cuz status is 50/50
@TransparentlyDuplicitous
@TransparentlyDuplicitous Ай бұрын
Urshifu is absolutely more degenerate and awful, but the fact that people are even contending the opposite just goes to show how neither is healthy.
@lukijez
@lukijez Ай бұрын
2:10 I only know Corviknight has power trip thanks to Pokerogue haha
@cjchu2597
@cjchu2597 Ай бұрын
Blaistoise will win all the remaining tournaments. Trust
@TheGlamourNazi
@TheGlamourNazi Ай бұрын
"I'm not either" Oh, so she's team Smeargle.
@samrahman2973
@samrahman2973 Ай бұрын
Urshifu main counter raging bolt Sneasler main counter gholdengo
@halcyoniconicon
@halcyoniconicon Ай бұрын
always happy when I see an upload in my recents
@applefreak2000
@applefreak2000 Ай бұрын
Are these going to uploaded to spotify?
@fleeper20
@fleeper20 Ай бұрын
To reiterate what wolfe said about sneasler, cover cloak amoonguss, done and done
@Wyrian
@Wyrian Ай бұрын
Sneasler is so much more managable than urshifu
@galactuskev
@galactuskev Ай бұрын
I am. I like sneezler a lot more.. Urshifu may be my least favorite pokémon of all time
@lilpoetat
@lilpoetat Ай бұрын
thanks!
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz Ай бұрын
Random Mon to Test: Bellossom @ Life Orb Ability: Chlorophyll Level: 50 Tera Type: Fairy EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Giga Drain - Moonblast - Pollen Puff - Quiver Dance
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz Ай бұрын
I did not even mean to paste this here, fevers are fun... but I'll leave it in case it's interesting to someone!
@rileyackison4495
@rileyackison4495 Ай бұрын
1 hour gang!
@blueice7906
@blueice7906 Ай бұрын
give sneasler unseen fist or urshifu dire claw then they will learn true horror😈
@C-Kipp
@C-Kipp Ай бұрын
I'd take getting to play the game 50 percent of the time than not being able to play the game
@smartard
@smartard Ай бұрын
If sneasler is so bad then why is nobody using safeguard?
@a_ghost_in_love
@a_ghost_in_love Ай бұрын
we did see some misty terrain to do the same thing, but sneasler has so much use outside of just dire claw that youre leaving yourself open to coaching/setup strats or the opponent just koing one of ur mons
@SnoozeVGC
@SnoozeVGC Ай бұрын
Did Joe win a regional with sun last season? Or are we just talking about the weather that has won this 2025 season?
@KH-zo8zm
@KH-zo8zm Ай бұрын
Yeah Joe won Portland in May 2023 with Jumpluff Torkoal sun.
@SnoozeVGC
@SnoozeVGC Ай бұрын
@ thank you, I was sure he had won with sun but wasn’t sure how recently it was.
@PkmnTrainerEmerald
@PkmnTrainerEmerald Ай бұрын
Team urshifu water 💧 🙌 💙
@brewslidepark
@brewslidepark Ай бұрын
Is scald banned or something ?
@AdminAbuse
@AdminAbuse Ай бұрын
Got basically removed from all but Volcanion going into gen 9 and now got very limited distribution among mons
@kaharibrown5362
@kaharibrown5362 Ай бұрын
i love Sneasler that mon is like the lottery you either love it or hate it but its a fun mon to play around its a fun mon
@Aluna0
@Aluna0 Ай бұрын
Primarina is the biggest fraud of the season it ain't doing a thing on the field 😤😤😤
@jamesaditya5254
@jamesaditya5254 Ай бұрын
Funny that Wolfe isn't there because his recent video on his most "hated" pokemons actually has a take that kinda works in the Urshifu vs Sneasler debate. Urshifu is one of the best physical attackers in the game, but it's very consistent in that there's little variance to what it does. I think the most adventurous set I've seen on S/V VGC was stellar tera on dark urshifu with poison jab + 2 STAB or something like that. Meanwhile when Sneasler goes for a Dire Claw, you're just high rolling. And it's just as Rose said, for some players the grass is always greener on the other side when you go for Dire Claw. The opponent always seem to get the perfect proc at the right games, at the right time, and for you it's a vanilla 80bp poison type attack. Urshifu is 100% the more "broken" pokemon while Sneasler is a solid attacker, but 16.67% of the time it's the most broken, salt inducing creature.
@thetoyboxdimension4349
@thetoyboxdimension4349 Ай бұрын
I’ve been testing venusaur and torkoal sun combo, and it’s really good but no one else is using it - the team has like no bad match ups except hisui typhlosion and whimsicott
@chriswilliams4103
@chriswilliams4103 Ай бұрын
Rental code? I love Gen 1 mons
@jessehammer123
@jessehammer123 Ай бұрын
Hey, complete noob here- why would Whimsicott be a bad matchup for the Fire-type Torkoal and the Poison-type Venusaur? Unless Whimsicott gets some sort of incredible Ground-type move or something like that.
@KevNug91
@KevNug91 Ай бұрын
​@@jessehammer123Whimsicott can just use Tailwind to doubles H-Thyphlosion and it's faster than Venusaur's speed under the sun. Plus, H-Thyphlosion benefits from Torkoal's sun to deal extra damage to both Venusaur and Torkoal. You can put defensive Tera on Venusaur but still....
@thetoyboxdimension4349
@thetoyboxdimension4349 Ай бұрын
Sorry I don’t have a rental code I just built the team on Pokémon showdown, but the team is: venusaur fire tera focus sash,chlorophyll, energy ball, weather ball, protect, sleep powder, Torkoal: water tera? (Still haven’t fully cracked that one yet), eject pack, drought, overheat, body press, protect, yawn, Incineroar: safety goggles, intimidate, ghost tera, fake out, parting shot, flare blitz, knock off, Rillaboom: assault vest, grassy surge, fire tera, fake out, grassy glide, wood hammer, high horse power, Farigiraf: throat spray, armour tail, grass tera (avoids spore to set up trick room), trick room, protect, hyper voice, psychic, Sylveon: choice specs, pixilate, tera ground, hyper voice, tera blast (without tera it is a regular special normal move so is boosted by pixilate and is stronger than moonblast also ground tera blast hits all of its weaknesses like archaludon, sneasler and gholdengo), moonblast, shadow ball
@mrarachnoid9029
@mrarachnoid9029 Ай бұрын
Never been this early
@TheRealNenharm
@TheRealNenharm Ай бұрын
Urshifu is awful and shouldn't be allowed in the game anymore lol
@rileyackison4495
@rileyackison4495 Ай бұрын
Team neither
@Editz-7-h3n
@Editz-7-h3n Ай бұрын
Yoo first comment
@fruitloopdingis
@fruitloopdingis Ай бұрын
both are bad for any meta. both should be banned
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