These Pokemon Gym Leaders Had A TRAGIC Break Up…

[@HybridHero]

Apparently GracefulShipping is the name of this ship. Comment down with "Graceful" if you ship it and let me know what Gym Leaders you would've shipped together!

[@mazharsiddiqi7288]

I definitely ship Viola × Grant from XY anime

[@unripetheberrby6283]

Graceful 💙✨ Hm, I'd need to think about my Gym Leader ships, dunno really

[@michaelcarlton1484]

Falkner and Janine meet up every week and have similar relationships with their dads. They are absolutely dating.

[@mazharsiddiqi7288]

@michaelcarlton1484 thats cool if true I know in the Manga Falkner beats her in battle too in GSC

[@huntertezz]

Its more of a crack ship, but Emmet and Elesa. After reading a story about them I found it wholesome the idea of Elesa helping Emmet deal with Ingo's disappearance and finding peace with a new family.

[@nichirinbullets]

yeah i remember being pretty sad about their relationship in the manga, only to see wallace carrying steven bridal style a few chapters later. talk about mental whiplassh

[@yuansoberano7158]

Don’t you mean… mental whiscash? Sorry not sorry.

[@skipslash7367]

steven was dead

[@BigMattXXL]

Well, obviously this is because Winnona is joining Team Sky

[@frankmaldonado7653]

She never returned his calls because she thought he was the leader of an evil team

[@BigMattXXL]

@@frankmaldonado7653 Yeah, but, isnt she friends with Skyla? I'm sure she corrected her by now

[@michaelkowal3230]

​@@BigMattXXL Is that actually a thing in the manga or are you just saying that because they're female gym leaders who use flying types are are the 6th gym leaders your characters face?

[@BigMattXXL]

@@michaelkowal3230 I thought it was brought up in the anime, but I might be getting confused with another gym leader

[@michaelkowal3230]

@@BigMattXXL I don't see any sign of either of them being friends with any other gym leaders in their anime appearances on bulbapedia

[@trainerfrostaura]

Man The Ruby and Sapphire arc was like a romance series lol I really liked how they portrayed Wallace and Winona in the Manga. Making them a mentor to Ruby and Sapphire

[@artisticsolarninja]

Brock was like "I'll be your One true Love, Winona" Winona replied "sorry. I don't date rocks"

[@chaoticchris4039]

I coulda sworm Wallace was NOT interested in such activities with women

[@Unknown-wb4ex]

THATS A FRUIT

[@jasonramsey1493]

Are you thinking of the other guy from the anime with the cacturne?

[@elise6894]

@@chaoticchris4039 pretty sure he’s only interested in Steven

[@mray4784]

Why wouldn't he?

[@chaoticchris4039]

@@jasonramsey1493 Him too

[@Aster_Iris]

Aight so when I was a kid, like, nine, I non-seriously shipped these two based off of color palettes I guess for about. Like. A week? But somehow I still remembered that I did ship them however briefly because cue eleven years later when I learned they were a thing in the manga. Call me the one kid from Kadabra's pokedex entry because I felt so psychic for that.

[@GatorOne-in7hk]

I wish Pokémon would experiment more with Gym Leader relationships. We’ve two parent/child duos in Roark/Byron and Gordie/Melonie, as well as twins Tate and Liza, but why stop there? Why not have cousins or married couples? There’s untapped story potential in these possibilities! Heck, go crazy with it and have the Champion be in love with someone who’s part of the evil Team!

[@michaelcarlton1484]

I definitely see them working things out. They only broke up because Wallace couldn't accept his role as Champion which upset Winona. To her, he wasn't doing his duty and was underselling his abilities. She really wanted to support him as Champion but he was fine with settling down with her as a Gym Leader. Clearly they CAN support each other and vibe really well together due to their interests. Once things calmed down, they should be able to make things work again, especially since they clearly still have feelings for each other.

[@RooftopRose079]

She also got peeved if he ever defeated her in a battle so I can't say she was fully supportive of him growing stronger. She seemed fine with him getting stronger, as long as she was stronger than him. I honestly can't see it working. She wants him to take responsibility but only when it doesn't make her look bad/weak in comparison. It's a relationship doomed to fail while she holds that resentment and anything Wallace does to make himself happier is just going to feed that resentment. It's very clear that while they have similar interests, they have very different goals that they want to achieve that are coming into conflict. They're better off focusing on themselves or other relationships in their lives.

[@michaelcarlton1484]

@RooftopRose079 She never had any issues with him being stronger. She only ever had issues with him holding himself back.

[@Aster_Iris]

Also usually I don't like double-commenting but looking at the comments, dang it guys let Wallace be a bisexual king!

[@ItzzAlexiss_101]

I believe in bi Wallace supremacy

[@kaidenkidwell]

Exactly, it literally doesn't need to be one way or the other. If the chemistry and magic exists, then just let it be. Regardless of gender. I dislike how some people obviously have bi energy, but the alphabet community ALWAYS has something to say when said person is with the opposite gender. Tells a lot about how not okay with it you truly are.

[@BlizzardLuinor]

Ngl I once thought Lisia was their secret love child because of the Manga lol. But yeah I ship this!

[@CorporealNatural1]

One Electric type move

[@JaMarcusRussellGOAT]

Wishcash.

[@railroader2431]

The manga was what got me hooked on this ship. I like to think they were able to work things out in the end, since it does seem like the two still have some feelings for each other.

[@Sulidaire]

Damn. I always thought Wallace wanted that Hardened Beldum from Steven...

[@joegreen3802]

Yeah I remember this relationship! XD I like to believe they got together in the future as well. As for ORAS, they were barely in that arc.

[@notverybright9825]

To be honest throughout every arc that features these gen 3 characters, it pretty much showcase that Norman is the actual strongest gym leader even comparing to Wallace. Wallace might be stronger in pokemon battle & contest, but Norman would have absolutely be better than all of them if he actually has time to train and strive for it. Because he was tasked to take care of the Rayquaza situation, dude was basically nerfed.

[@WhiteRaven696]

Wallace being in love with anybody but Steven sounds so sacrilegious to me.

[@thenamesianna]

I like to think that Wallace has poké-Greek ancestry, because the only explanation I can find for his hometown looking so Greek and all other towns in Hoenn just looking Japanese is that it was built by poké-Greek immigrants in Hoenn.

[@armanditogutierrito]

What a nice treat to wake up to! Hoping for some Black and White stuff, it’s been my favorite by far of the PokeSpe series. Keep up the good work!

[@HybridHero]

Stay tuned 😉

[@mythking541]

I can't be the only one that thought Wallace was batting for a different team, even as a kid. Maybe he's actually batting for both teams?

[@axels3188]

This was a good video I think Wallace and Winona is a good pair and their surposed Relationship in the Manga is very interesting.

[@ES-dp6tw]

Entertaining the different nuances to relationship interpretations. Anime had Viola pair with Grant, manga got Wallace and Winona now, while games tend not to bother past more subtextual stances like Skyla Elesa. Overall a fascinating coalition.

[@HybridHero]

Skyla and Elesa is totally a fan thing though

[@ES-dp6tw]

@@HybridHero Certainly, though solid in foundation given their interactions and narrative synergy. Wouldn't be a left field pick, so to say.

[@NightFuryLover31]

The similarities and subtly of Wallace and Winona’s relationship in the manga alway fascinated me. How they were like Ruby and Sapphire, in their own way. Even though Winona cut it off, Wallace still clearly loved and tried to respect her decision. I do hope that they tried again after the final battle. What’s funny to me is that I came across a poll about the which Pokemon game champion is the most gay. Wallace won by a landslide, even though he was the only one in all of Pokemon media to be in a relationship. Maybe they didn’t read it and just judge Wallace’s mannerisms.

[@vardiganxpl1698]

Yeah the irony. Wallace looking like one of the most gayest characters. Is ironically very, very. VERY straight. Like he legit he gave up being the Champion, just so he can be with Winona

[@Lemuel928]

They don’t wanna ask their tragic savagery..If Misty kinda talk too far about it.😒

[@HybridHero]

Speaking of Misty...

[@braillynn]

​@@HybridHero Yes?!

[@HybridHero]

🤫

[@braillynn]

@@HybridHero 🥺

[@HybridHero]

Stay tuned 😉

[@kurenian]

Wallace: is a champion Also Wallace: uses a Luvdisc

[@lordrj4203]

Bro uses Luvdisc so as to nerf himself Others ain't beating his gym otherwise

[@FairyPhantasia]

I always did think they were both beautiful as kid playing sapphire 😂 never connected them Wallace seemed like a full of himself man. Not necessarily gay. Like more in love with himself 😅 didn't exude gay

[@unripetheberrby6283]

This was real interesting, I have a bigger perspective now! :)

[@Swordsmaster]

Watching this made me tear up a little. Idk why but I find their relationship so sad, but I still love this ship. 😭 On a side note, aesthetically they remind me of Lewyn and Erinys from Fire Emblem. 😅

[@psycho_bella]

Me at the end of their story: Wheres the kiss? 😫 I shipped them so much!

[@SimplyCozy777]

omg this was cute! im a 90s player and i loved when this game came out! Wind was so cool and unique to me. Thank you for this info :D I love Pokeships :D

[@phoenixfire6433]

My personal headcanon: Wallace: “My dear, you are a gorgeous woman, but it is not to be. My heart belongs to another, and I cannot resist his charms. I am sorry to end our beautiful relationship, but love is cruel and it waits for no man. I do hope we may stay acquainted” Winona: “Oh well that’s just frigging brilliant, isn’t it? I’m about to go and say that this isn’t working out because I’ve actually realised I’m a lesbian and then Mr Bisexual Fancy-Pants over here one-ups me in this breakup by finding a new boyfriend to elope with. How can I compete with that, I’d like to know? Bertha’s too old, Caroline’s straight and married, Roxanne and Flannery are far too young and that Team Aqua girl is a right bore and hopelessly in love with Archie anyway. I’ll have to shoot Kabu a note and ask if he can set me up with any of his Galar lot. Right, I’m really angry now so heaven help the next challenger who comes along, my Altaria won’t be merciful”

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

Lol

[@danieldishon688]

When Emrald first came out I preferred Steven as champion because at the time I preferred Steel type champion to a water one when there's already a water types gym, and I couldn't understand why they changed champions between games when Steven is clearly still around. I also just didn't like Wallaces looks in general. He looked like a classic anime trope of an effeminate male given his outfit and sort of pompous looking posture. He wasn't cool basically. But when I learned he was a contest champion later, I realized in hindsight he was the ideal champion for that region, representing the ultimate yin and yang balance of mastering two Pokémon trainer goals, the league and contest. Knowing this manga story heavily plays with the intended masculine and feminine yin vs yang themes I suspected was intended to be implied is there in the games is actually really cool. And I like knowing a reason for why the change in title occurred in the first place finally which before felt mostly arbitrary only knowing the games. A sky and sea gym leader having a past estranged romantic relationship is also kinda mythical and I like how their own masculine and feminine relationships are directly ment to parallel the two protags. And it even makes me a little more okay with his effeminate looking attire because Wyona kinda has the closest thing to masculine attire for female in the games, and as an overseer of the gyms she represents the opposite yin yang journey to Pokémon contest Wallace represents and that the duel protags represent is really cool.

[@eldeenjabri1955]

No one wonder MANDJTV- plays first team sky vid onward, Winona never called him back and stuff, she was cheating on him w/ Wallace, ah well, she's mine now...

[@HybridHero]

Wat

[@ZephyrBW]

Theses guys were the Ruby and sapphire gyms

[@maskedlucina5574]

i know this is basically farfetched it feels to be Wallace and Winona feel like Ruby and Sapphire is what it could been if Wallace and Winona haven't broken up and took Ruby and Sapphire as their students and help fight the bigger threats

[@luiscorpio8838]

Man, I hope that in the last ORAS volume Kusaka and Yamamoto give us another romantic scene of these two, even if it’s a small one 😭. This is one of my OTPs, tremendously underrated ship.

[@pedrogabrielduarte4544]

So if winona is the leader of the other gym leaders then who is the leader of the other gym leaders in the other regions?

[@JaMarcusRussellGOAT]

In Kanto, it was Erika, although four of the eight Gym Leaders in Kanto were a part of Team Rocket. I don't know or remember the others.

[@ThePokeRaf]

Another birthday gift for me?! 😍❤️💙

[@HybridHero]

Only if you love Winonna like I do

[@Thunderai175]

My brother took a lot of days to beat winona with a sceptile I told him to use slam and it actually worked

[@nlyfae]

MORE STRAIGHT SHIPS YES.

[@LeftHook-em6rv]

🤨

[@SamTheGothicWolf]

🤨

[@marialash4925]

How to tell if a realtionship or not, age is it a minor or not

[@aliciahuang6329]

Wallace with a woman. I know wallace design especially oras redesign and how could i put this he's a fruit. And Wallace was a childhood friend with Steven stone. And childhood friends are a instant shipping fuel.

[@HybridHero]

Well he canonically dated Winona in the manga 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@bradleybourgeois4710]

The manga and games are there own thing. He could have sexual tension with Steven in the games and Winona in the Manga. It does ruin anything for anyone.

[@Amanecer458]

Is Japan, they have different standards for masculinity just watch Saint Seiya

[@luckluca8982]

@@Amanecer458Japan's standard is more of the pretty boy, like a BTS member. With sometimes can get correlated with fruty, though Wallace was clearly designed with the flamboyance in mind, specially in his ORAS redesign, but his original fits both archetypes better

[@ArchieOfDistrict9]

I thought Wallace was gay 😭

[@deGoomyan5538]

Id love an anime adaptation of the pokemon manga in general. It doesn’t seem to completely cater to 5 year old kids

[@bakalee1452]

Wallace can still be a bottom and date a woman guys.

[@fothorso]

Wallace was never a bottom, thats my fabulous top daddy right there

[@raydaveed]

They broke up because he likes other kinds of fruits especially fruitcake 😂

[@BirdiePlaysYT]

I always thought Wallace was gay...

[@DaymonddTT]

CAN WE BRING BACK AIRPLANESHIPPING

[@mazharsiddiqi7288]

Great video How about doing a video on Delia × Giovanni breakup from Pokémon Live which also has a Misty one-sided confession to Ash?

[@mray4784]

What?

[@donaldbagwell7202]

I honestly never pictured wallace as bi

[@GamingBoy-nc3ml]

Fun fact: According to the original pitch for RS and some anime model sheets, Winona is actually 16 while Wallace is ''34''

[@brian_Austin27]

What nah😂

[@mray4784]

An age gap romance in fiction? My favorite.

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

Uhhh... did Winona start the relationship or

[@MegaCharizardX2op]

​@@mray4784That Wallace is old enough to be her father and you're thinking about romance? I'm losing my faith in humanity again.

[@luiscorpio8838]

Yeah, but it’s pretty obvious that all that information isn’t canon if you take into account that it was meant for a beta version. I don’t know why most part of the fandom took everything that was revealed in the leak as canon when it obviously isn’t.

[@MTP2DDRDuelonman]

not bad of a story I like it

[@HybridHero]

The actual manga goes crazy tho

[@MTP2DDRDuelonman]

@@HybridHero I'm going to have to check that out someday I already finish the full book of trainers red story and now I need to look up on Blue

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

Gay people in the replies struggling is the defenition of true equality.

[@larslionheart]

The manga must have been tripping balls.

[@elise6894]

No way in hell wallance had a girlfriend…he’s gay af

[@flyzfm5060]

He just got flair 😂 but him and Winona made sense to me at least

[@elise6894]

@@flyzfm5060 him and Steven make more sense

[@mray4784]

@@elise6894 For you.

[@EWOODJ]

Being flamboyant does not mean they’re homosexual.

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

Bro let the man be fruity and a play boy (He literally has a cheerleader and drives a fancy flying car in the manga the only reason they toned it down was the show not letting him be a player cause they don’t want kids to copy it)

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

Really love this ship too and actually like that Wallace has a fan club of girls as cheerleaders and a fancy flying car it gives him personality to bad they had to scrap that in the anime and remakes due to censorship like come on Pokemon let guys have hot cheerleader’s and be playboys

[@JaMarcusRussellGOAT]

Gary had cheerleaders in Gens 1 and 2, and even had a sports car.

[@Star-eg3qt]

What happened between them?!

[@HybridHero]

That’s what the video is for 😅😂

[@Star-eg3qt]

Tragic romance

[@HybridHero]

Truly tragic indeed

[@NathanSahadeo]

I thought Wallace was gay😂

[@PsychicJaylen]

the manga isn't cannon

[@HybridHero]

No one said this video was canon... BUT it is canon to the manga ahahaha

[@bashamd96]

Manga canon exists

[@HybridHero]

Fax

[@VeeVolt]

@@HybridHerolet em know 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@HybridHero]

You gotta let em know too!

[@justify1836]

first

[@HybridHero]

Dang right

[@YoelSchwarz]

Its fine. Wallace has Steven now. They've moved on.

[@davidronan3764]

Lesbian / NB femme relationship okay I can see it 🤔 They really are two of the gayest character designs in the series.

[@luckluca8982]

Wallace, yes. Winnona, not so much... There really isn't a design archetype that scream LESBIAN. Maybe a "butch" or a "mother", but to my knowlegde, there really isn't a female character that can be geared for only for woman to enjoy that most man can't. (Unless you try making it clear that a character hates man, but even so, there are man who enjoy that...) What would be a gay design for a female character in your opinion?