From Ativan and avoiding her bedroom to peaceful sleep during fireworks (Talking insomnia

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Do you like our way of teaching? Would you want to unpause your life, sleep well and feel like yourself again? We can help! For personal coaching, head over to www.thesleepcoachschool.com and find an option that fits you. We look forward to seeing you on the inside!

[@annamorling672]

Just want to say that is is amazing when people get well. But also that acute insomnia and Insomnia can have other reasons that you have to investigate. For me it was the beginning of autoimmune encefalitis. Now I have severe severe insomnia but also other symptoms and autonomic dysfunction and pain in my brain. Fatigue etc. how do you do with insomnia due to medical residual effects? That can actually be harmful. I think I can be awake until I die I hate medicines but scared not to take it. They make me worse in many ways so may life is awful. 😢

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Anna, Thanks so much for the encouragement. Sorry to hear about the health issues and sleep struggles. We actually define insomnia here as an ongoing struggle that happens when we are scared of being awake, and poor sleep due to health issues as “sleep disruption”. I think this video can help. I know this claim will sound impossible...(Weekly roundup 7.29.22) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnyTloNspq99as0 Hope you’ll find something helpful here 🙂

[@maddgun]

Please keep these wonderful podcasts going. Theu are very comforting for those of us still struggling

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Will do absolutely 🙂 we are in summer break now but will be back in September. Thanks for the support!!

[@Veronika-zy1to]

I am glad to see Sarah's success story. She was a big inspiration the community :)

[@satsukihyuga]

Sarah was such an inspiration. I still remember when Coach Michelle introduced her to me and she said that Sarah had more or less the same amount of time as me with this journey, and I just wondered how does she looked so calmed and so peacefull and I was such a wreck. But as the lessons passed and went further into the teachings and with her replys on the app, I started to understand. Im still integrating all the teachings but have found myself in the same position of when I saw Sarahbthe first time. Still some days better than others but finding more good days than bad days. Thank you Sarah, for being an inspiration. -Lizaida

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Such a wonderful comment Lizaida, thanks so much for sharing and … it’s so helpful to see these similarities, it may be a little different in how the transformation happens when we take this journey but seeing that we are on this trajectory, so helpful 😊

[@sarahmattern8530]

Hi Lizaida! I'm so glad sleep is getting more normal for you. You were an inspiration for me too--I remember how brave you were, starting a new job amid everything. It was wonderful having a community to go through this with. Best to you!

[@bphilbin1001]

Sarah and Daniel thank you for this. I remember when Daniel shared your letter I was moved and now hearing your story I am so impressed. My story is similar and after finding coach Daniel and Bedtyme everything has improved so well. I too am trying to “welcome in other stress areas as Daniel suggests.” Foundational. Great interview! Thank you. 23:05

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Bonney! So glad you saw this and… that things have gotten easier 🙂 And yes, it really applies everywhere I believe. Be in touch!

[@stinkyjean1]

Sarah's story resonates so much with me! I have been trying so hard at CBT-I and it feels like it has put even more pressure on me. I feel like I have even more anxiety about sleep with the limited sleep window and still don't fall asleep when it's finally "time" to go to bed, even though I can barely keep myself awake until then. My insomnia just seemed like it appeared one day out of the blue and I experience anxiety all day about how I'm not going to be able to sleep at night. I have tried all the sleep hygiene recommendations, which just feel like a joke to me. I know my issue will not be resolved by sleep hygiene strategies, and sleep restriction therapy has been excruciating and anxiety-inducing. Thanks for sharing your story, Sarah. It makes me feel better knowing that someone else (probably many others) has experienced what I am experiencing and that it's possible to get through it!

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

So glad you found it 😊! I took a screenshot and sent her!!

[@stinkyjean1]

I'm sure it can be effective for some people. But it was not effective at all for me, and, in fact, made my insomnia the worst it had ever been. After finding Coach Daniel's channel 7 months ago when I posted, I quickly recovered fully from my insomnia. I practiced "befriending sleeplessness" by reading a nice book when I wasn't able to sleep. And I stopped worrying about getting a certain amount of sleep because I knew I'd be ok with however little sleep I got. NATTO, people sharing their stories, and Coach Daniel's educational videos changed my life forever. My experience has even put me on a more expansive emotional and spiritual journey that has improved my life substantially. I am actually grateful for having experienced my insomnia because now I know I can get through really difficult things. Thank you so much, Coach Daniel, you are a life saver!!

[@KhalidKhalid-m4u]

I been struggling with insomnia for years and some nights I don't sleep as of tn I been up since 20 pm I'm looking forward to taking Ativan

[@sharang747]

I found this before they even put me on CBTi I will inform Them of this channel and your philosophy Daniel. I’ll still Attend that appointment I’m Having sped bumps but not near enough any nights at all of complete sleepless ness. I remember the trigger clearly since then I have not been the same. But I hope I find my way back home Again. I don’t want sleep to be another thing on the list of worries.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Thanks so much for sharing about our way. And you know, what has led you here, it will lead to more and more peace 😊

[@LouellaMagtajas]

Hi Sarah - how long were you on sleeping pills and was it hard to get off? were there withdrawal symptoms? Hope to get an insight...

[@JanePeters]

I have an appointment with Michelle next week and am really looking forward to starting your program. My question is: I am in the last stages of titrating off mirtazapine/Remeron which is the hardest part. I took it for insomnia and now, of course, the insomnia is kicking back in. I am afraid that the chemical aspect of all this is what's causing my insomnia and it will control my recovery. Your program makes so much sense. I really want to do it.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Jane, So glad you’re working with Michelle, she’s amazing 🙂 This is how we look at the common situation you are in: When we are not taking medication to sleep, then two things are happening. (1) We aren’t taking the medication and (2) we are aware of not taking the medication. And when we are aware of this, then we often wonder if we are going to sleep or not. We wonder if we should maybe have taken half of it. We wonder if maybe we aren’t going to sleep at all. We wonder if we will ever get off the medication. And this - this worrying and this preoccupation, THIS is what makes us have trouble sleeping when we stop taking something! Sure, the absence of a chemical in the system can cause some excitement in the nervous system that it formerly was sedating, but that doesn’t cause insomnia. That in itself could make us more awake, but being awake without being scared of being awake is just… being awake. Rebound wakefulness is not insomnia. The reason for rebound insomnia is knowing that we are not taking the medication and being afraid of not sleeping. Being aware of this can really help. Because we see that the medication in itself isn’t what matters at all. And when this is clear, and we continue to show the brain that being awake is okay, that it’s not a threat, then things get easier and easier.

[@RafiurRahman420]

Lucky people who can coach with Daniel sir From Bangladesh I am so hopeless sir Insomnia killing me I don't to addicted any meds

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hang in there Giga, many have found their way bye learning from the channel here… be in touch

[@garysimone4977]

​@The Sleep Coach School have been able to reach out to this person

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Glad to hear!

[@VADogWalker]

I am two weeks into horrific insomnia (never had any issue prior to two weeks ago so I relate to her story) and am completely sold on your program and am expecting your books to arrive from Amazon tomorrow. In the meantime what to do if the sleep deprivation is at a dangerous place- yesterday I passed out in the grocery store and am debating if it’s even safe to be driving knowing I may not sleep well for some time. I drive for my business and have family responsibilities.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Colleen, So sorry about what’s happens but glad you found our channel so soon. Hope the books will make a big difference! I’ll say that every human who drives has a responsibility to not drive when we think it’s not safe - for any reason. With this said, it can help much to ponder what really happened when we collapse. You know how in movies they say “sit down, I’ve got something to tell you” - that’s because when we get upsetting thoughts, we can become dizzy and even fall.

[@melissasanpablo3493]

Hi! Just wondering if how are things going now?

[@dodgdurango6128]

I was the same way and I found out I was bipolar. I experience insomnia on both ends of the spectrum. after 4 months of CBTI did nothing.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Glad you found you weren’t the only one, and thanks for sharing 🙂

[@JesusMindsett]

Question 🙋‍♂️ I noticed when I had a job I did not have insomnia and now that I don’t have a job I just all of a sudden have it. Would that be because I went from being distracted from when I had a job to now that I don’t But how does this change things?? Thoughts Coach Daniel

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi! Yes very common, when our attention is elsewhere, we just didn’t think about sleep and it then happens by itself … randomly we think “why can’t I sleep” and then we may have some struggle

[@katelin_gates_rn]

Hi Daniel, Happy New Year! :) Not related to this video but I was wondering if delayed sleep phase disorder is the same as insomnia?

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi! I’d say no, sometimes people can confuse them but they’re quite different

[@katelin_gates_rn]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Ok thank you :)

[@YouTubeSearchParty]

Hi Daniel! Thank you so much for your work. Is there a link to Sarah's article?

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Anytime! And yes, it’s here: medium.com/@hello_78767/from-brain-zaps-to-peaceful-landings-the-summer-i-didnt-sleep-8269e893ca13

[@amandamcgovern8883]

hi coach Daniel i really need advice I've had insomnia problems since last April from an incident that happened to me, since then it's never been the same. I don't have anxiety about how will I function the next day as having sleeping problems for so long you adapt to functioning with only 2 hours sleep so my anxiety isn't linked in this, it's linked in how I will never sleep the same again. before all this I went to sleep no problem, never needing to think how I will sleep, but every single night now I always need to deal with the anxiety of "what if I don't sleep tonight" and sometimes it's fine, othertimes it's not. I get depressed about feeling like I will never be able to have a bedtime or an early nights rest. for example, tonight I had a massage and I was so relaxed and sleepy and I was ready to go to sleep, until I noticed it was only 11.30pm and I immediately got anxious because I thought "that's so early, no way are you gonna fall asleep now, especially because you got 8 hours sleep last night". it just feels I will never fully be okay again, like I can sleep okay for a few nights, maybe even a week, but no longer than that because I just always have sleeping problems now. what do I do?? please help, I'm so depressed because of this, I just wish I could have a bedtime again and sleep like how I did before

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Amanda, hang in there. If you write a short question I’ll try to reply in a meaningful way

[@nokiac2059]

Hi Amanda, this whole thing started Last year April for me as well. I never had issues with sleeping just like you said it's like I can fully relate to everything you said. I think we just have to accept we are normal. I sleep sometimes waking up and it feels like I haven't slept or when I'm asleep enjoying my sleep something seems to always happen that wakes me up 1000 times a night lol.

[@amandamcgovern8883]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 hi daniel thanks for your reply. i guess to shorten my question would be - will i ever be able to have a bedtime routine again? i sleep when i feel sleepy but sometimes thats at 3 or 4am, and i wish i could be like everybody else and go to bed at 11 or 12pm.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Anytime and you know, I see no reason that wouldn’t happen. What can help is that we have some regularity in terms of then we start our day, then things fall into place by themselves in the evening

[@allansgonzalez3586]

Hi was wondering if the coaching help Sarah with dealing with her tinnitus. Cause I have it and wonder if the program would help...Thanks

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Allan, she actually emailed me months after graduation and - her tinnitus resolved! Not during the program but when she realized it was the same type of struggle

[@juliele109]

Hi there, I am seeing in a lot of these videos that people find watching TV or doing art or playing video games to be enjoyable but when I wake in the night I do not feel physically well.. I sometimes feel like I have been hit by a bus! So therefore does not feel "enjoyable" to do anything in that state but continuing to lie there also increases my hyperfixation on not sleeping. Any advice?

[@jesseg4517]

Hi Daniel, I have a new question. I had been pretty much free of any sleep issues until recently. I can not seem to sleep tonight and 2 nights ago it was the same deal. Yesterday I luckily slept. Today I have also taken a cheap sleeping pill (diphenhydramine hcl) and still haven’t been able to fall asleep. If it’s worth anything, I feel my eyes get heavy and they close on me consistently when watching tv, but as soon as I turn the tv off, it’s like I’m right back to life. Why is this? I also think it’s important to add that I experienced something traumatic about 3 days ago. But despite all my education I’m still confused.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Jesse, so sorry to hear about this traumatic event and - it often helps to attribute sleep struggles to something obvious so… at least it can help to see this… search for insomnia insight Houdini and you’ll find an explanation to this confusing experience… hang in there Jesse

[@manpreet4743]

Hi Daniel, if amygdala triggers for reasons we cant control like sleep, then how to fix that? Fear thought from brain "now I got you. here you cant win, you can control many things but you cant control sleep. So you are not gonna win here, so no sleep, you are gone. Technically". I have complete education rationally that its false trigger but inner mind not able to accept.

[@manpreet4743]

If dog bites us, we can do exposure therapy by facing dogs. But sleep is beyond our control thats invisible trait then how our fear will go? How we are exposed to fear sleep though? Lastly, can I heal with videos here or there some extra in paid section needed. I would love to take it

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi, It’s paradoxical but “how to fix it?” IS what I see as the attempt to have control - which is why we struggle. When we no longer try to fix, it’s fixed, there wasn’t anything broken. Exposing ourselves to fear simply means not trying to stop it when it happens. We have no secrets! All our teachings are here for free. If you want them contextlized for you, then we have many great coaching options!

[@juliakh2177]

I have chronic insomnia for more than 2 years. I fall asleep fast, but can only sleep for 5h, which isn't enough. I want to try CBT and sleep restriction. So, should I go to sleep at 3am and fix the wakeup time to 8 am, or sleep from 00 to 5am, adding more time each week? Thank you for your chanel, it gives hope

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

So glad you’ve found your way here Julia, and what John shared, I think this is so helpful, CBT is very tricky, very rules oriented when we sleep well when there are no rules 😊

[@garnelemortler343]

That's a great channel to cheer up some people with mild sleeping problems like this young lady who apparently slept well most of her lifetime. Some interesting insights, but sadly nothing for me, someone with severe insomnia. Still thanks KZbin for the recommendation

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Thanks for the encouragement Garnele and hope you find something that resonates with you and is helpful 🙂

[@garysimone4977]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 when you get prescribed a benzo AND Ssri it's not a mild case.. Ativan is one serious med, very serious .yes Dr should be held accountable, They take a oath DO NO HARM , YOU DONT FULL UNDERSTAND, LEARN !!!!! ASAP, NO EXCUSES IT GOES WITH THE JOB, GET EDUCATED YOU ARE DEALING WITH PEOPLES LIVES.. ya won't take the time to learn, then get out if the profession .. Sorry Daniel, tired of the excuses made for these Docs

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Gary, you know, I have wondered often what happened to “do no harm”… this said, it’s also sooo hard being a doctor right now, they’re drowning under administration… we need some real change… hopeful we can be part it this

[@garysimone4977]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 I understand that it's tough being a Dr real tough it also hell going through benzo wd because of some Dr ignorance, Have you seen the stories on youtube, the frustration from 1000s and 1000s of people whose l8ves have been destroyed. WHAT DO WE SAY TO THEM, OOO THE Dr is under so much administrative pressure Really thatscwhat we say to the 1000s of patients who's lives have been destroyed

[@garysimone4977]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 thanks for the reply, all due respect that Dr are under alot of pressure, and all but we are talking about peoples lives Sir, have you seen one of the 1000s of youtube were people have been seriously damaged due to Dr mistakes in understanding there craft, ? I respect the great work you are doing Ya being political correct in your reply , I understand, but one who has been seriously damaged by the medical system, it is just tough to agree..Do NO Harm ....Sir you take a oath. With that comes much responsibility

[@LouellaMagtajas]

How long was Sarah on medication? How long did she taper?

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Louella, I don’t know but she may check the comments and reply …

[@LouellaMagtajas]

Hi Coach Daniel - during your correspondence with people in your channel, have you encountered people who also developed day time anxiety along with sleep anxiety?

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

@LouellaMagtajas hi Louella! I’d say I can’t recall a single person who didn’t worry daytime! In fact, this is why I say insomnia isn’t a sleep issue, it’s a surface manifestation of us being anxious

[@LouellaMagtajas]

Hi Coach Danielle- mine is an onset insomnia. I could not at fall asleep,even nap. I resorted to medication after 5 nights of not sleeping. Now I am on one month mark of switching to 3 different meds (which only gave me 3 hrs of sleep). I am conflicted if I should just go away with the meds or should i ask for another one to try. I am honestly exhausted and I don't know if I'll be able to handle another 5 sleeples nights (0 sleep) if I get off from the meds. I think that really traumatized me and I just have a lot of fears. Pls enlighten me on what's the good course of action. Thanks!

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Louella, Sorry it’s been a struggle but glad you’re here. Education, like knowing there’s no principal difference between trouble falling asleep in the evening or later on, it makes all the difference. I’d say start with the playlist called This is Natto as well as the success stories, that can really help 😊

[@LouellaMagtajas]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Hi Coach Daniel, just couple of days ago, I started to feel that my body starts to get cold and it feels like it's somehwat shaking/trembling. it happens for a few seconds but happens multiple times while i am about to sleep. are those symptomps of hyper arousal? I also have palpitations too.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

@@LouellaMagtajas hi Louella, Have you hear the expression “trembled with fear” or “sent chills down my spine”? They show how we actually know what fear can be experienced like… and often just knowing that nothing is happening except us being frazzled can help so much

[@LouellaMagtajas]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Ii it still part of my anxiety regarding sleep correct?

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

@@LouellaMagtajas hi Louella, yes I think it all comes from a brain trying to survive, using emotions like anxiety

[@musicallife3981]

Checking your programme, do you help folks with CFS sleep better again? Any way to connect and discuss this more to see if it can be treated by your method?

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi, we help anyone who has become afraid of being awake. We don’t do discovery calls but - you can cancel within 7 days and get a refund / not be charged.

[@TaylorQuince19493]

I've been using BedTyme but it crashed. I don't get daily lessons and can't communicate because the typing bar is gone. Can you please fix this. I can't get a refund since it's past 7 days. It's super expensive where I live from, too.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Elisa, Email [e-mail] so we can understand why it crashed. You can also contact Apple to get a refund, even after 7 days this has not been a problem for students in the past. If you have an Android phone we can refund you ourselves. Thanks!

[@TaylorQuince19493]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Hi! How do I refund from IOS since the chat function does not work :(

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Elisa, Here’s a link that shows you how to get a refund. Previous students have had it go through fast so hope you’ll have no issues! support.apple.com/en-us/HT204084

[@TaylorQuince19493]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 it says I don't have an eligible purchase to refund..

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

I did suspect exactly this, you had unsubscribed before the purchase went through! Which also explains why the daily modules and typing bar disappeared, the app was working as designed. So yes, nothing further needed!

[@RebecaAV21]

Sarah, what happened with your tinnitus, did it eventually pass? I'm in the same situation as you, almost identical.

[@sarahmattern8530]

Hi Rebeca: I still have pulsate and ringing tinnitus but it doesn't bother me. Michelle recommended the book Rock Steady (Healing Vertigo or Tinnitus with Neuroplasticity), and I've been making my way through it. The approach is similar to Sleep School but applied to tinnitus: learn to feel without judgement, accept, and the brain reduces the volume. Best to you!

[@RebecaAV21]

@@sarahmattern8530 thank you Sarah, where can I read your essay? Regarding tinnitus, you may also find LiamStopsTinnitus helpful, I've been able to significantly lower my ringing in under a month.

[@lisakember567]

@@sarahmattern8530 I also have tinnitus (going on 20 years now), usually, it doesn't bother me at all but it has recently. I'll check out both your recommendations. Sarah, your essay brought me so much comfort when I read it and your interview has too. I am slowly but surely making my way out of insomnia-land but getting my hyperarousal to calm down is proving quite tricky. My conscious mind knows I am safe and everything is ok, but my amygdala is just not convinced yet!! Hearing stories like yours gives me hope. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@sarahmattern8530]

@@lisakember567 Thanks so much Lisa. I know how intense this experience is. It takes a long time to unravel. You are on your way. Keep telling your brain you are safe. Best to you!

[@LouellaMagtajas]

@@sarahmattern8530Hi Sarah, how long were you an medication? and how did you get off?

[@snoringjay]

Hello coach Daniel ! Can i ask help from you . Thank you

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

HI Jay, sure! I try to reply to brief questions here

[@rahulpardeshi6646]

Hello coach..even after i sleep for 5 6 hrs. Some nights next day I feel that I've not slept n giving Me fatigue bt I clearly know that I've slept. Is this a good sign? Is this the sign of hyperarousal fading?

[@shreyas1995]

Kind of normal I think. It was happening to me too. This has nothing to do with sleep. It's coming probably as a result of the Hyperarousal/worries/anxiety.

[@shreyas1995]

@@johnmonk3381 ouh I never thought of that either! Like the stuff becomes monotonous.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Rahul, I think anything that makes us see that our fatigue isn’t closely related to how much we sleep can help much

[@nokiac2059]

@@shreyas1995 this happen to me too. Sometimes I watch movie then eventually wake up 4 or 5 hours later but I feel like I ain't slept at all😂

[@shreyas1995]

@@nokiac2059 sleep is weird haha.....as the coaches would say... let's just hang in there !

[@joshuadelacruz2955]

Hi, my name is Joshua DeLaCruz. I’m not sure if is related to my sleepless nights and I’m not sure if I have Fatel insomnia, or simply just paradox insomnia, but on Halloween, I ate an edible, and I was forcing myself to stay up because I was afraid to fall asleep because it was making me feel sleepy. Plus it was tripping me out. I was forcing myself to stay awake, not falling asleep, and I managed to stay awake with that edible for hours, eventually, I did go to sleep whenever it wore off but later, about a week later, I started waking up, scared and confused. Then I was good then the next day I wake up, scared and confused and then eventually it was to the point where I couldn’t fall asleep at all and I’ve been experiencing this till January. The 20th and keep asking myself. How am I still alive? It Hass to paradox insomnia but I’m not entirely sure because I was put on so many different meds like lorazepam and Xanax to put me to sleep and eventually stop working then I stopped taking it and just took a simple melatonin and now it’s to the point where I have sleep paralysis with just a melatonin throughout the day but I know I can’t take a nap or fall asleep during the day can you please tell me what going on?? plus in the beginning my anxiety was really really high and me feeling sleepy made my anxiety skyrocketed in the beginning now it’s starting to die down, but I’m still convinced that I’m not sleeping at all yet I am able to drive Talk and do things I did had panic attacks in the past during my anxiety I am scared to fall asleep. Could you please explain why this is happening to me because I never had anxiety or panic attacks in my life

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Joshua, sorry about the struggle but glad you’re here. I try to reply to all brief questions here, if you ask a short question I’ll try to reply in a meaningful way!

[@joswa4680]

How are you now bro?

[@BrookeCollister-bw5rj]

I hope you are doing ok. I'm not sleeping either because of anxiety and panic attacks 😔

[@joshuadelacruz2955]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 hi Daniel it’s been three months since I’ve posted that message. I am doing fine but I do experience the lack of sleepy feeling and my anxiety has went down I still have a bit trouble falling asleep. I guess the question I’m trying to ask his current anxiety take away your sleepy feeling for months.

[@joshuadelacruz2955]

@@joswa4680 hey hi yes I’m doing better I am back to work and feeling a bit better the bright side is that I haven’t had a panic attack since I last post this message still having trouble falling asleep, but it’s not as bad I am able to function a little bit better and not as much of a hypochondriac thinking I had fatal insomnia it was that bad, but I’m starting to overcome it and be better form it I hope