This HIDDEN *Historical Figure* SHOULD have been KING in 1066!

This HIDDEN Historical Figure SHOULD have been KING in 1066!

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@fraginatrix 2 ай бұрын

Not exactly historically accurate to squeeze 10,000 Sardaukar out of various medival lords in the 1100s, but fuck me if it wasnt cool.

@ssorayaya 2 ай бұрын

LMAOOO

@WaterZer0 2 ай бұрын

Yeah the troop numbers are way overinflated in CK3. Even the strongest emperors would have trouble getting 10000 men and supplying them.

@gimmethegepgun 2 ай бұрын

@@WaterZer0 At least, outside of China. In China, an emperor gets a bit of dust in his eye and 10,000 soldiers die for nothing.

@WaterZer0 2 ай бұрын

@@gimmethegepgun 😂

@j.murphy4884 2 ай бұрын

@@gimmethegepgun DECISIVE TANG STRATEGIC VICTORY.

@Arran05 2 ай бұрын

I literally just did a campaign where I adventured to and formed Russia and then took back England to make an Anglo-Russian Empire as this guy, super fun.

@qhu3878 2 ай бұрын

that is so cursed

@Darthwgamer 2 ай бұрын

Russia's manpower and British naval dominance...what a crazy combination

@HereIComeThereYouGo 2 ай бұрын

@@DarthwgamerRussia's manpower is low

@qhu3878 2 ай бұрын

@@HereIComeThereYouGo it was the most populous nation in the world for a good few centuries until the industrial revolution edit, in europe, most populous in europe

@HereIComeThereYouGo 2 ай бұрын

@@qhu3878 I can't agree, but say what you say

@axsaaxsa9232 2 ай бұрын

man i love the small history lessons along with the gameplay, probably my favourite thing about this channel

@TigerofRobare 2 ай бұрын

You have a claim on Ruthenia because the most common theory on the origin of Agatha, Edgar's mother, is that she was a daughter of Yaroslav the Wise of the Kievan Rus. Interestingly, if that's true, it would make Edgar a nephew of Hardrada, Andrew I of Hungary and Henry I of France, who all married daughters of Yaroslav.

@samuelwolch1302 2 ай бұрын

Connections like this make it all so fascinating.

@thalmoragent9344 24 күн бұрын

Huh... isn't that interesting 🤔

@spaceranger1444 2 ай бұрын

I always wanted to play this character since in some cases he has the best claim when it goes to inheritance. The adventure route itself is the best solution as well. Though when I play William, I usually make Eadgar at least the Duke of Wessex just because he gets some ancestral lands.

@derekskelton4187 2 ай бұрын

Aelfwine would probably have the best claim, but he wanted to be a priest. (You can still have him chosen if you use the game rules though)

@thalmoragent9344 24 күн бұрын

@@derekskelton4187 Wait, what do you mean? Which game rules?

@thalmoragent9344 23 күн бұрын

Can I add him to my court, and then push his claim?

@bren-fire546 2 ай бұрын

The reason why Harald Hardrada claimed he had the right to the English throne is that supposedly Edward the confessor in 1051 claimed him as his heir via a line of overlordship via Haralds ancestor being Cnut so he had duel claim to the throne being named "heir" and having claim via the line of Cnut

@meislouis1381 2 ай бұрын

It was also because of what Laith was referring to, King Harthacnut of Denmark (future also king of England) and King Magnus I of Norway made an agreement in 1038 that whoever died first would succeed to the others throne. Harthacnut died first but the English throne was taken by the West Saxon line of Edward the Confessor. When Magnus died Harald Hardrada became king of Norway and then started claiming to have inherited a claim to England via that agreement between Magnus and Harthacnut. Not a very good claim, but none of the 1066 claimants claims were very good. Still personally think Harold Godwinson's was easily best if we don't count Eadgar but thats neither here nor there!

@irtnyc 2 ай бұрын

Anyone who conquers the kingdom is the king. No claim needed. Its not CK. Harald was a vastly accomplished professional warlord. He had already squeezed more water out of his socks than his rivals Harold or William ever sailed over. Harald was unlucky to be surprised at Stamford Bridge (his army didnt even have their armor, Harold's did), and worse: while alive during the battle, he was outnumbered roughly 2:1. A third of his force arrived only after the battle was already lost. But still attacked, despite outnumbered 3 or 4 to 1. And then they lost, again. A kind of heroic. To be expected from vikings en route Valhalla. In these conditions it is remarkable that the 15,000 English lost 5,000 dead; and that NOT all the vikings were stackwiped. (Probably 90% were killed though as they took fewer than 30 boats home after arriving in 300.) As it was that battle was more deadly than the Normandy beaches on D-Day and with no bullets or artillery. (All close range even the lethal arrows.) More than 10,000 of the 20,000 combatants died. In comparison, D-Day was "only" about 15,000 total casualties ie including wounded out of more than 200,000 overall soldiers in the battle... so thats avout 7% casualities and less than half that is KIA (say 3% of total participants). Stamford Bridge was morelike 50% of total participants. 1/3rd of the English and 80% of the vikings. This one battle at Stamford Bridge turned out to be decisive for world history. A few days later when Harold's missing 5000 men weren't at Hastings... so they lose... and here we are. A thousand years of chronic foreign wars and chronic civil wars later. England was unlucky to be conquered by the Normans; and the Scots, Welsh, and Irish and arguably half of France even moreso. It all could have been ao different. Interesting to do the whatifs here with the aethling. Agatha of Kiev another. Joan of Sicily probably the next biggee?

@Kornilovungreat 2 ай бұрын

@@irtnycwas england unlucky to be conquered by the Normans? Honestly it eventually made the kingdom richer. The Irish Scottish and Welsh though, that I'll admit, did suffer from the rise of the normans

@xeon39688 2 ай бұрын

@@irtnycviking cope

@j.murphy4884 2 ай бұрын

@@Kornilovungreat It made the SOUTH of England richer. The North of England was utterly sacked in the "Harrying of the North". the Domesday book tracks how Northern lands lost 75% of their value. To this day the North of England is poorer than the South and if you have a Norman origin surname, you have a significantly higher chance of being from inter-generational wealth.

@user-jt6rh8xy6n 2 ай бұрын

I started a game with him with the intention of working my way up to King from count. But William won the war and immediacy granted me the duchy of Mercia(my lieges duchy) which put me in the position where all I needed to do was wait until he was gone to declare war for the kingdom of England(since i already have a claim)…. Wasn’t a smart decision on his part. I just abandoned the play through after that.

@ParasiticPrince Ай бұрын

Laith: Skip to here to avoid the history lesson Me: No, I don't think I will

@Hapsburger 2 ай бұрын

I don’t think there is a single person who doesn’t want the history lesson. It is entertaining as heck!

@kgapaneseschoolgirlb 2 ай бұрын

This character’s father would have been a cool adventurer play through had that been possible. Edward the Exile was born the year Canute took over. Canute sent him and his brother Edmund to Sweden/Norway to King Olof’s court (there were two king Olof’s at this time and the land borders are not like they are now so we’re unsure which one) to be murdered, however, Olof was on good terms with their father, Æthelred the Unready who helped baptise him and so spared the children. We do not know if Edward and Edmund stayed in Sweden until it was conquered by Canute in 1028 or were sent away to Kiev or Hungary immediately. We’re also unsure as to whether or not the brothers went to Hungary first, and then to Kiev, and then back to Hungary, or just directly to Kiev and then Hungary. What we do know is that they were in Kiev around 1030, when they met and befriended another exile, Andrew of Hungary, which they then travelled with and helped him reclaim the Hungarian throne in 1046. Also, we’re unsure on whether or not Edward’s wife, Agatha was from Kiev or from Hungary or from somewhere else. In this game, they claim she’s a Rurikid but there are other claims that state she’s of two different noble Hungarian origins being a relative of the Holy Roman Emperor. It’s a bit of a mess. That’s the problem with all these exiles, they were not exactly the best at documenting their exile lol

@Gamereal6286 2 ай бұрын

Yay history lessons! I love learning more of this, because I didnt know much of the Harrying of the North. I knew that William attacked the northern part of England after he defeated the Norwegians and the Anglo-Saxons but I never quite knew why. You could also do something like this with El Cid and take over a part of Spain for yourself. 😄 The neat out of context quotes: "I accidentally killed my mother nooo! Oh well 💁" "Spices? Hell no, I conquer England to get our bland food back" "Now my nephew is King of Pomerania, bad thing is hes stupid"

@AlbertKelway 2 ай бұрын

He was King appointed by the Witton after the battle of Hastings, but soon after abdicated in order to let William be King

@sebastianpijov8708 2 ай бұрын

Well, he tried to seize the realm several times through rebellions, but old Will was incredible at crushing rebellions.

@thalmoragent9344 24 күн бұрын

@@sebastianpijov8708 Did he really? Must've had many supporters for multiple Rebellions

@MausOfTheHouse 2 ай бұрын

4:09 Akschully Edward the Confessor was a cousin of William the Conqueror

@irtnyc 2 ай бұрын

First cousin once removed, akshully. William the bastard's great-grandmother Gunnora is Edward rhe confesssor's grandmother. They're a generation apart. Makes sense right?

@mappingshaman5280 2 ай бұрын

He was a cousin because his aunt was Edwards mother. That doesn't make him have a claim in any monarchical inheritance system I can think of

@lettucearsebiscuits8375 2 ай бұрын

@@mappingshaman5280What does give me a claim is if I sail over there with thousands of men to take it.

@zenthossohtnez8331 2 ай бұрын

Just learnt about this guy yesterday from my little sister, good timing, Laith!

@lycaon6467 2 ай бұрын

Godwin, who started the Godwinson house, has been portrayed pretty well in Vikings Valhalla in my opinion Not the best historical figure that has been portrayed, but still, pretty good

@DuskHound 2 ай бұрын

Love this video concept, a historical based playthrough with a few fun facts along the way, hope to see more!

@jochem6358 2 ай бұрын

Maybe you can do one with the medici family

@wastelander89 Ай бұрын

I love historical and gameplay I like your balance of history and gameplay mate . Well done ,great video 👍💯

@tfecataphractos 2 ай бұрын

Cool one. Started nearly the same role-play a while ago but somehow instructions were unclear and I became the Outremer Emperor after making an alliance with Gengis Khan through marriage? God I love CKIII. Also more of these would be awesome. You can actually in full-vanilla play Rollo of Normandie as an adventurer if you start in 867. His camp is somewhere in Sigurdr's realm. Cool additions came with the last couple of updates, definetly improved the game since the Plagues.

@guardianofthehill 2 ай бұрын

You know what's hilarious? The campaign as Eadgar can be ridiculously easy at times. Once, I conquered 16 counties in a matter of 15 years. I conquered so fast and hard, it crippled my economy (too many holdings). Couldn’t get a duchy because of a strong hook, but through luck (and A LOT of murder schemes) eventually became king of England. Was literally too easy. And now there's actually an optional setting that ALWAYS makes Eadgar king. It's too easy at this point.

@eroWardhanac 2 ай бұрын

well tbh.. 16 countieis in 15 years means you must have struggled to do it, or you're bad at the game lol

@derekskelton4187 2 ай бұрын

@@eroWardhanac I figured that was implied by their next sentence

@king_fisherXX 2 ай бұрын

I don't think you understand what “Easy” means. An easy campaign would be using that “Abduct = Win Free War” method to take back England cause you have a high intrigue. Conquering 16 counties in 15 years while being broke and unable to make a duchy cause someone has a strong hook on you, so you have to murder a bunch of people to get the throne back. Yeah, that's not easy! I can mentally picture you as the Sweaty Speedrunner meme in IRL😅

@eroWardhanac 2 ай бұрын

@@derekskelton4187 Then his sentence is contradictory. You can't say the campaign is easy, but then hard, but then easy again.

@Ranked_Journey 2 ай бұрын

0:08 what about Sweyn Forkbeard, Cnut the Great, Harold Harefoot (Harold I), and Harthacnut? Where these kings of England of the house of Wessex?

@mikewangsama1127 2 ай бұрын

I guess he could explain by saying those were danish Kings

@Ranked_Journey 2 ай бұрын

@@mikewangsama1127 Danish Kings of ENGLAND.

@sweetpurple8812 2 ай бұрын

@@Ranked_Journeythey were kings of england

@derekskelton4187 2 ай бұрын

@@sweetpurple8812 Yeah it's a bit of a technicality you can handwave since real life doesn't exactly line up with the game. I'd agree they were kings of England, but you can kinda handwave it since it wouldn't have been their primary title

@JoeMorgan-h5h 2 ай бұрын

I would love more videos like this. I love the historical aspect, really adds something to the challenges and the video

@TheBanannMan 2 ай бұрын

I really enjoy when you fit in history lessons into your videos

@Robopengy 2 ай бұрын

I never knew Edgar was an account. Hope he wasn't empty!

@braveshark3 2 ай бұрын

I enjoy the history lessons. Its part of the reason i enjoy CK3 so much. Keep the history rants up!

@mircoss7217 2 ай бұрын

The Fragmentation of Poland could be a cool historical event to play, but I don't know if it's implemented in CK3

@musicjax 2 ай бұрын

I like these historical videos. I wonder if you could do a historical thing that somehow also takes place over multiple lifetimes. Dunno how that'd work exactly but yeah

@0th_Law 2 ай бұрын

Really nice! My personal suggestion for a more historically-focused campaign… well, there was a very real chance at one point that a Iranian man of Khurramite (neo-Mazdakian Zoroastrian) origin could’ve become Basileus of the ERE. Look into “Theophobos,” and tell me that isn’t incredibly inspiring.

@sweetpurple8812 2 ай бұрын

He converted before he had a claim

@0th_Law 2 ай бұрын

@ I said origin, not that he actively practiced it at that point.

@genuscorvid Ай бұрын

He died before the earliest start date though

@0th_Law Ай бұрын

@ But he could’ve had a son, or even just someone with a similar origin.

@magus727 2 ай бұрын

@Laith subtitles at 0:24 saw "drama" instead of "drum up"

@gladius4487 2 ай бұрын

This has always been my favourite campaign in CK3, every new update I give it another go

@Bern_il_Cinq 2 ай бұрын

I didn't realize you could become a legitimist on titles you never had before.

@thomassaxon8254 2 ай бұрын

When you've a strong claim.

@Makem12 2 ай бұрын

You forgot the Danish claim to the throne.

@Tsurja 2 ай бұрын

"Blend it with herbs from English cuisine" So... just use half?

@thatrandomguy8115 2 ай бұрын

I'd love to see laith play himself in ck3

@coolguy69420L 2 ай бұрын

There have been multiple kings of England not of the house of Wessex Laith (prior to 1066)

@specil-k 2 ай бұрын

I would love it if you could make more of these, they seem like a highlight of your channel in the making

@Sillycinder 2 ай бұрын

No need to apologize for the historical tangents their the best parts

@3bostonboys 2 ай бұрын

Interesting thing about Edgar Ætheling is he constantly fought in wars (including the first crusade) and collaborated with other leaders in attempts to gain his throne back, also (unlike most Anglo-Saxon kings) he lived till his 70s at least, and thus had even more things he did. (He was also half Hungarian or Ukrainian)

@Kasaaz 2 ай бұрын

It seems this Eadgar was born too far west. If he'd been from Ipswich... Now that's a proper Edgar's County.

@Drksdrgn 3 күн бұрын

Just adding some historical notes; William claimed the throne as he was cousin to Edward the Confessor (the last Wessexian king of England) via Edwards' mother Emma of Normandy. Edgar was the grandson of the last previous Wessex king Edmund "Ironside", before the Danish kings but was still a minor in 1066 so was more of a figurehead at the time than having any real backing from the Anglo-Saxon nobility, especially as his father had only returned from exile in Hungary in 1057 with nothing but their name, only to die shortly afterwards. That being said, the House of Wessex continued in a royal sense due to Edgars' sister, who became Queen of Scots, and her daughter, Margaret, married Williams fourth son (but only the second who lived to adulthood), Henry, who became Henry I of England.

@lukelloyd8976 2 ай бұрын

Definitely more historical character driven stuff!

@clem2526 2 ай бұрын

Linking the crash course at the start is peak.

@pureCHiCANEry 2 ай бұрын

Would definitely watch more historically inspired campaigns! Great video

@granite_4576 2 ай бұрын

Best vid in a while man! Going to do my own run with this guy I think.

@AkodoGarou 2 ай бұрын

This was fun to watch, and the historical facts as well!

@neonnnn110 Ай бұрын

Harald and William had the best claim, Harald through his grandfather who was King of England and in living memory, and William had been previously promised the throne by Edward the Confessor his cousin, Harold Godwinson himself even swore it to him, then betrayed his oath.

@Aiyapmaster 11 күн бұрын

Who would not,its easy to kill people that didnt even landed,but then harald

@thegentlemanfish7504 2 ай бұрын

Easiest King of England run I had. Picked Edgar after I learned of him, first time ever, Hardrada won out over William the Conqueror, made me the Duke of Mercia, and was immediately elected King by the Witan when Hardrada died.

@lordhades8515 2 ай бұрын

As far as Norway and Hardrada goes, don’t forget that Tostig Godwinson was also with him

@Nifn45 2 ай бұрын

This was great, I'd love to see more!

@andrewotey6718 2 ай бұрын

Wondering why my buildings look blurry when zoomed in

@247HALOMASTER Ай бұрын

It was the agreement between Harthacnut and Magnus of Norway that gave Hardrada the claim to England. Harthacnut was King in 1040 and son of Canute. He made the promise to Magnus of Norway (Harold Hardrada’s predecessor) that if either one of them died without heirs their lands would pass to the remaining ruler. Harold claimed the promise of his predecessor gave him a claim. However it is important to note that Harold’s own brother Tostig was exiled from England by Harold Godwin following Tostigs pisspoor administration over the Earldom of Northumbria. In response to being banished Tostig convinced Hardrada to invade on the grounds of this loose agreement claim so he could be reinstated as an Earl in England. Hardrada likely would have never invaded without Tostig intervention. Brotherly rivalry could be argued to be just as damning as Edward the confessor for the shitshow that was 1066.

@benkubisiak1459 2 ай бұрын

There's a lot of history that he just causally talks about and gets wrong with the background to the events of 1066, just to run through it briefly: When Edmund the ironside died he didn't leave it to Edward the confessor. He'd just fought a war against Cnut who he'd split England with and wh took over the English throne and married Emma of Normandy who was the wife of Aethelred the unready and Edmund's mother in law. At that point most of the house of Wessex left the country for Normandy because they had ties to the house of Normandy through Emma who was the mother of most of Edmunds siblings including Edward the confessor. Edward got the throne back when all of Cnut's sons who were his half brothers died and the last one left the throne to him. Although Harold being shipwrecked and supposedly swearing a vow to be Williams casual was a part of the claim the fact he was related to Edward the confessor and a claim Edward wanted to leave the throne to him was a major part of why he thought he deserved to be king. That Cnut had been king of not just England but also Norway and some deals he had supposedly struck was a big part of why Harald claimed the throne of England. I'm sure I got some of this wrong too but the video oversimplifies to the point of being wildly misleading.

@TheLeperofJerusalem Ай бұрын

Laith please use the customize route button to get as many unique locations as possible, because if you do that as an adventurer then you can use a pretty op decision once you visit 48 unique locations and the decision gets buffed if you visit 60, and you just get experience which is better than no experience.

@TheLeperofJerusalem Ай бұрын

Edit: I just saw that you used the decision myb

@panzerkampfapple7058 Ай бұрын

edgar brings back memories from history in high school in england lol

@hi_im_sota 2 ай бұрын

“Burning of territory bad.” NoooTed 📝, thank you very much.

@JudgementMoon 2 ай бұрын

please make an entire channel where you rant about history over ck3 gameplay

@wardoge924 2 ай бұрын

I did this some months ago. Wonderful campaign, character and all that. Maybe I'll do it again with some mods and the new dlc some time. At the moment I'm hooked with the new administrative governments, the amount of political intrigue is insane

@marknorton586 2 ай бұрын

Ooo please do King Nechtan of the Picts, who was wrongfully ousted by Kenneth McAlpin of the Dalredic Celts, in Alba. Return the Kingdom of the Picts

@arnovdk8940 2 ай бұрын

There had been viking kings tho? like Cnut for example

@bmoney2011 2 ай бұрын

instructions unclear, punched Laith in the liver.

@goofygoober1816 2 ай бұрын

pls do more of the history lessons you are a good teacher

@FootballClips101 2 ай бұрын

History gsce bringing in the knowledge laith

@naturalbornpatriot6369 2 ай бұрын

Take over the Eastern Romans doing this method! Cool video, really sells the DLC

@derekskelton4187 2 ай бұрын

It's is generally accepted that Canute was king of England as well as Emperor of the North Sea, so not entirely accurate to say every king of England was of House Wessex.

@marcus4046 2 ай бұрын

Love the historical facts and stuff....HATE THAT HE DOESNT GET A CARAVAN MASTER

@PanupanS 2 ай бұрын

I think the whole Harald Hardrada invade England have to do with Tostig Godwinson bitterness against his brother.

@derekskelton4187 2 ай бұрын

You should have picked out Aelfwine on your travels in France

@Nirob615 2 ай бұрын

I wonder if there is anyone in CK3 that has blood relations to Cnut the Great since he did have the kingdom. I mean forming the North Sea Empire is a major decision in this game, and can be kind of difficult in the 1067 start date

@gak9319 2 ай бұрын

Cnut the Great was not of the house of Wessex, but he was king of England.

@anthroposmetron4475 2 ай бұрын

Liked this one a lot, would like some more in a similar vein.

@giacomoloss7374 2 ай бұрын

Moore! (Cit) Yes these historical insights are good

@jamesrivettcarnac 2 ай бұрын

This makes me want to start playing ck3 again

@AnomalyWarning. 2 ай бұрын

Hoi4 Old World Blues.

@cameronturnmire1145 2 ай бұрын

Are you ever going to finish the eprius mission tree for imperator

@Kasaaz 2 ай бұрын

I like the history mixed in.

@tadijastankovic4350 2 ай бұрын

I suggest you play as a adventurer in the balkans and do shenanegins

@wrrnertheron6937 2 ай бұрын

How does one get the decision to become a adventurer?

@felipea1399 2 ай бұрын

Day 2 of asking Laith to lay Vandals and form Carthage in the extended timeline mod

@JohnPaulSaylor 11 күн бұрын

Doubt if I’m in the minority but I love the history lessons. Always learn something new.

@DogWithGuns Ай бұрын

I liked this. Wouldn't say no to more or something similar

@TheMataphysical 2 ай бұрын

Can you become head of the house of Wessex without killing your older sister?

@FlameWolfGames 2 ай бұрын

Brother what were those subtitles 💀

@BlazingFlame69 2 ай бұрын

It would be cool if you played has the Hashashins

@undeadwarrior88 2 ай бұрын

When I played as him Haraldr won the war then died not soon after and I was elected king lmao

@neroine00 2 ай бұрын

do the karling in Vermandois 1066

@JMThought Ай бұрын

William’s story about Harold promising him the throne is such clear bullshit. 😂 Emma of Normandy does give William a tenuous claim. Harold Godwinson’s claim is also backed up by the Witan and through his sister being Queen. But your chap has a decent claim of course, I didn’t know he was in the game which is great.

@aruik8332 2 ай бұрын

Interesting task with short historical lectures here and there? Sign me up! Do more of this "story-based" videos.

@Stasio800 2 ай бұрын

Maybe you can try recreating the Armenian Empire? If you play as a character of the Armenian culture, you can take a decision to restore the Greater Armenian Empire.