NASA's Abandoned Plan To Colonize Mars (declassified)

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The Space Race

The Space Race

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@Will-fc2iu
@Will-fc2iu Жыл бұрын
One of the best episodes so far. A 1970s mission to Mars would have been amazing.
@Skyler827
@Skyler827 Жыл бұрын
would have been amazingly carcinogenic for the astronauts
@TheSpaceRaceYT
@TheSpaceRaceYT Жыл бұрын
Thanks Will!
@raya.p.l5919
@raya.p.l5919 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheSpaceRaceYT❤All will receive Jesus healing energy all old and aches and pains will be washed away. Takes 30 minutes best to relax and shut yr eyes. Also all who reads will receive level 1 portion of youth longevity digestion an self beauty Jesus energy wash tonight at 11 07 eastren. Negative energy will creep out yr feet tell it's time. The Illuminati aka fallen angels aliens NASA what ever you want to call them in there flying tin cans. Can't get out of lower orbit because of the vacuum. Universe is only 77 thousand SQ miles big breathable air through out space angels have to breath. Mars is only 250 miles away sun an moon are much closer an only a city big. Heaven is on Mars moon that's what all the thrusters are for space x Star ship try to punch through the vacuum and destroy Mars moon heaven. I cleaned out hell left the light's on I ripped the soul out the devil after he went dragon just to make it a fair fight. We don't know we are sheep because we don't know who the wolfs are. We always been the prey. 😊
@Tate525
@Tate525 Жыл бұрын
Unlike the Moon mission, the Astronauts won't be coming back alive and will be most likely be advised to dig their own graves first thing after landing and bury themselves once the mission is complete 😂.
@rickcilo7567
@rickcilo7567 Жыл бұрын
Tsiolkovsky is the one regarded as the father of rocket science not Von Brauhn 😂😂
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 Жыл бұрын
In 1973 I bought a plastic model Nerva engine -- with what the model maker called the "Pilgrim Observer" spaceship to go to and from Mars. I glued the thing together, including an artificial gravity module, a hydroponic garden module to produce oxygen, and a module with nuclear reactors to produce electricity. But this was considerably less expensive than the actual Nerva-powered ship that Nixon declined to fund.
@fukhue8226
@fukhue8226 Жыл бұрын
Nixon had a war to fight! Which is much more important to Arms Manufacturers and Dealers when it comes to getting their Fair Share of the Taxpayers Money. Which would you like to do? A: fight a war 1/2 way around the World for the Military / Industrialist Complex and advance our War Making abilities Worldwide or B: Plan and Execute bold and new Space Exploration Missions while developing new technologies and advance the Human Race around the World? Seems like a no brainer, but some people have no brains!
@jameshead9119
@jameshead9119 11 ай бұрын
@@fukhue8226considering he also mixtape the safer type of atomic reactor for one that was already proved dangerous at three mile island at that time because the big money was already invested in it shows where he was going to jump heck even beforehand jot elected the space programme was being sidelined and staved of money
@esdrascaleb
@esdrascaleb 10 ай бұрын
@@fukhue8226 if was only them... the lobby made space schutle be a thing while not being no were near economic as they call it.
@MadJustin7
@MadJustin7 Жыл бұрын
I for one am happy for the operational pause in human space exploration. NASA needed to let technology catch up with their ambitions. That fact that we didn't have any fatalities in space during the Apollo missions was a stroke of good luck. Operating on the very edge of our capabilities is extremely dangerous. With a few near misses to showcase how close to the edge we were running things back then.
@DHTSciFiArtist
@DHTSciFiArtist Жыл бұрын
I've had this feeling we shouldn't go to Mars until the 2050s then colonize in the 22nd century.
@UIMcocodog
@UIMcocodog 4 ай бұрын
idk man i think its a fallacy that we can ever do this without seriously putting peoples lives at risk... and even then the fact apollo didnt have any fatalities in space is indicative of leaving and entering earths atmosphere being the highest energy part of the operation. "space" is kinda proven to not be the most dangerous part of the operation when you intend to leave and return to earth......
@Goodcola1
@Goodcola1 5 сағат бұрын
@@UIMcocodog Space travel will never be without risk, which is why many astronauts are/were test pilots for fighter jets. Those people like living life on the edge and push technologies further.
@johnstewart579
@johnstewart579 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I was a fan of this era and knew that humanity COULD have succeeded if the national will had permitted the effort
@fukhue8226
@fukhue8226 Жыл бұрын
The Military Industrial Complex would not allow the American People to spend their Tax Money on foolish Scientific Projects that could Educate and Advance the Human Race (there is no Money in it for them). The only reason they allowed the Apollo Moon Mission was to Develop the Heavy Lift Saturn 5 Booster Technology to lift Hydrogen Bombs into orbit. You don't actually think they did it as a Friendly Race to the Moon did you? The Russians had a Heavy Lift Booster ( R-7 Semyorka "ICBM" Intercontinental Ballistic Missile), America needed a bigger one and they got it (the Saturn 5)!
@samr.england613
@samr.england613 11 ай бұрын
There was no compelling reason to go back to the Moon in 1972. While there IS a compelling reason to establish a scientific manned presence on the Moon today, there is still NO compelling, logical reason to land people on Mars.
@i-love-space390
@i-love-space390 11 ай бұрын
Yes. It didn't seem there was a constituency for it in America on the Right or the Left. The Right wing needed to keep the Commies at bay, and we didn't need any of that peacenik "we came for all mankind" stuff. And of course the Lefties are so sure that any money that doesn't go into the space program will just SURELY go to fighting poverty and injustice! (Spoiler..... FAT CHANCE. So you might as well spend it on space.) I get so irritated by those people that say that money spent on space is "wasted," as they browse KZbin videos on their tiny computer phones and navigate by GPS.
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist 9 ай бұрын
There is not enough funding. Not gonna lie if the Soviet Union didn't collapse the Americans woukd have a reason to get to Mars.
@Dante-ki4ol
@Dante-ki4ol 2 ай бұрын
LlPZl.
@rockymntnliberty
@rockymntnliberty Жыл бұрын
NASA's 80-year plan to colonize Mars, that made me laugh. I'm envisioning NASA finally arriving in 80 years to have their first NASA astronaut step foot on the red planet, and just has a set foot on the soil, 20 colonists from the the SpaceX in colony coming out to say welcome you're good about time you guys got here, we have your habitat ready. Did you bring the pizza we ordered?
@ricksimon9867
@ricksimon9867 Жыл бұрын
So you have absolutely no clue. Got it. SpaceX has NO intention whatsoever to go to Mars. None of the technical problems have bee addressed. Starship is really StarLinkship, designed to get those 40,000 (!) StarLink satellites into orbit, of which 4,000 will have to be replaced every single year. _
@kashutosh9132
@kashutosh9132 11 ай бұрын
You underestimate NASA and overestimate SpaceX(though Spacex is quite impressive)
@Dante-ki4ol
@Dante-ki4ol 2 ай бұрын
LOL. You still trust the racist Musk?
@Pisti846
@Pisti846 Жыл бұрын
The real tragedy is that we never built a base on the moon.
@kashutosh9132
@kashutosh9132 11 ай бұрын
​@MidriffKOwhat's that? Name of the moon base?
@jason.papadim
@jason.papadim 2 ай бұрын
Well..... by looking at NASA's Project "ARTEMIS" with the successful ARTEMIS 1 launch that was a non-maned lunar orbit by the Orion module in 2022 and the maned lunar orbit of the ARTEMIS 2 launch happening next year, they are targeting for a Landing by 2026 (at most 2027) with the ARTEMIS 3. And finally the big one. ARTEMIS 4 being the first ever "Lunar Base" (It's basically an orion module but build to withstand more time at the lunar surface while stationary) targeted to happen before the 2030's. Now the cool part with all that is actually not that we are going back to the moon but that with this project they are gonna test A LOT more tech intended to be used for a mars human landing.
@xitheris1758
@xitheris1758 11 ай бұрын
The main issue with sending humans to Mars is radiation exposure. The Earth's magnetic field and atmosphere provide *a* *lot* of protection that humans frankly need. The best solution we've found is to bury Mars bases and spend as little time as possible on the surface and in transit. NASA is currently designing a nuclear rocket that they'll test in the next few years - because chemical rockets just aren't gonna be good enough.
@TomG-f4r
@TomG-f4r 4 ай бұрын
The nuclear rocket works , untill some day it doesn't , that mess is very bad , so they didn't spend the big money , the German generator that uses balls , is suitable , safe , and tested ,
@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD
@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD Ай бұрын
Radiation on Mars is not an issue. "Radiation" is not a big scary monster, it's a measurable phenomenon that you can plan around. A reasonably sized pressurized volume could sit completely exposed on the surface with no issues.
@xitheris1758
@xitheris1758 Ай бұрын
@@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD The problem is the long-term health effects of consistent exposure to high levels of radiation. It can be quantified, but quantification alone doesn't remove the health risks. Quantification tells you how much mitigation you need, and for Mars, that means burying your base and limiting EVA time. Go read up on the radiation doses involved in a Mars mission. It's no joke, and apart from some breakthrough in radiation resistance medication or diet, the only practical way we have of dealing with it is through mass shielding.
@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD
@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD Ай бұрын
@@xitheris1758 it's roughly 4x the max allowance for radiation exposure for workers in the US. There are places on Earth with radiation levels that high though (from geologic sources) and there's no noticeable increase in cancer risk. You could fortify the food staples with zinc to reduce cancer risk even further. Anyway with a pressurized volume your ceiling height is determined by your anchoring cable length, and steel cables will be able to be made there fairly early on. So with one Starship load of ETFE plastic and some ISRU steel cables you can make 70 acres of pressurized volume with enough air between you and the ETFE liner to function as enough shielding to drop your risk down to zero. No digging needed.
@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD
@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD Ай бұрын
@@xitheris1758 KZbin deleted my comment, who knows why lol. I'm not getting all those numbers together again, maybe you can read it from your notifications
@praveenveeranki578
@praveenveeranki578 Жыл бұрын
There was an web series called FOR ALL MANKIND
@Joao-ur7ey
@Joao-ur7ey Жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm from a different timeline where all of this actually happened because for some reason as a child, I was so damn sure humanity had already reached Mars, had lunar bases and astronauts would go to the moon all the time... When I got older and actually learned the truth I was so disappointed. lol
@Wurtoz9643
@Wurtoz9643 Жыл бұрын
In that case we are from the same timeline
@andymouse
@andymouse Жыл бұрын
Me too and I'm devastated...they owe us big time LOL !
@Robweisenhowser
@Robweisenhowser 11 ай бұрын
Yeah same when I was still in my single digits of age I thought we had go pro videos on mars and that we recently just landed on Venus and created a colony there. I was so confused to find out we only landed on the moon and haven’t gone back since
@XenoRaptor-98765
@XenoRaptor-98765 Жыл бұрын
Is anyone else thinking what would of happen or how different the world could if this nasa mission success back then?
@Tearodis
@Tearodis Жыл бұрын
We would just have people saying the Mars landings of the 1980s were fake and the USA would be slightly more poor.
@mrzoinky5999
@mrzoinky5999 Жыл бұрын
It's all down to budgets - look at the cuts they are now doing to Artemis - after the Mars expedition people would have been outraged at how much it had cost; remember by Apollo 13 hardly anybody was watching this third attempt at landing on the Moon UNTIL the accident happened.
@supergamergrill7734
@supergamergrill7734 Жыл бұрын
@@TearodisNot really, the amount of technological discovery needed for this would cut cost down dramatically. Like how we all use nasa level tire technology now because it’s both very durable and cheap all things considered
@fukhue8226
@fukhue8226 Жыл бұрын
The only rocket even capable of lifting enough Materials and Equipment into LEO to PREPARE for a Mars Mission was the Sea Dragon and it never got off the drawing board. These missions and the Drawings and Plans are just to draw in money to NASA and keep it afloat. Otherwise someone would have to answer for all of the wasted money and planned missions that Never Happened!
@jhtrq1465
@jhtrq1465 11 ай бұрын
We would have missed on other majors space missions like Voyager or Galileo. All the money trowed down the pit of a manned mission to Mars would have been unavaible for mission that yield real scientific results. Sending people to Mars is useless, we can achieve far better results with robots instead of "colonists" trapped in tank burried underground.
@johndoepker7126
@johndoepker7126 Жыл бұрын
This was a really well done video!!! A mix of History .... with a vision of the Future... !!! Very well done indeed !!!
@fransschepens3
@fransschepens3 4 ай бұрын
A mix of lies
@hotflashfoto
@hotflashfoto Жыл бұрын
Dang! You got to the end with Nixon and didn't tell us what he chose to do! Was it the Mars Mission or the Space Shuttle? I won't be able to sleep until you tell me! What a cliff hanger!
@Tate525
@Tate525 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@davidroddini1512
@davidroddini1512 10 ай бұрын
Fortunately, I am good with history. Nixon decided that a second home for humanity was a great idea and chose the Mars Mission… Too bad about Watergate 😢
@NoobNoob1986
@NoobNoob1986 11 ай бұрын
For all mankind is as close as we will get to that reality
@alf2685
@alf2685 2 ай бұрын
The V2 wasn't the first long range guided missile. It was the first long range balistic rocket... Tilt etc. Worked trough timer that where set before the start after calculating spesific numbers for the location they where firing it from...
@ghijcamp
@ghijcamp Жыл бұрын
Listening to RFK Jr talk about his father's funeral made me cry in mourning for what could have been.
@chrischris8550
@chrischris8550 Жыл бұрын
Love the Mars glider and rocket return option. Real Visionary!
@southtexasprepper1837
@southtexasprepper1837 Жыл бұрын
You should see the 1955 movie "Conquest of Space." That same spacecraft concept was used in that movie.
@chrischris8550
@chrischris8550 Жыл бұрын
@@southtexasprepper1837 i will check that out! Thanks!
@fransschepens3
@fransschepens3 4 ай бұрын
It was all fake
@gregguiltner8764
@gregguiltner8764 Жыл бұрын
NASA is currently trying to return to the moon and travel to Mars using 1970's & 80's technology. They call it SLS!
@Tate525
@Tate525 Жыл бұрын
Slow Launch System😂
@VvV-1
@VvV-1 Жыл бұрын
Mars? Not enough payload, I guess that's a one way mission.
@foxdavani4091
@foxdavani4091 10 ай бұрын
Braun wanted to go to space. He never wanted to kill people. Hitler took the man’s dream and turned it into a weapon. When all the man wanted to do was go to space. I would’ve loved to meet that man.
@blackfly56
@blackfly56 10 ай бұрын
Technological progress is so unpredictable and misunderstood. I remember hearing a computer scientist in the 80’s saying it would be nearly impossible to get a computer that could talk to you and understand human language like the one on Star Trek. He said it’s a hundred years off. Well, say hello to your i-phone or Alexa or maybe your toaster oven.
@zaysousa1
@zaysousa1 Жыл бұрын
Love Your videos man
@MD.ImNoScientician
@MD.ImNoScientician Жыл бұрын
I also consider the technology at the time of space exploration. Materials and resources for developing Space Exploration were so rudimentary; electronics, raw metals, plastics, nutrition, water reclamation. It took another 20 years to perfect those things before more modern rocketry could sustain itself. We are now the benefactors of all this. I'm glad we are giving it another go now. Thanks for your great episode!
@samr.england613
@samr.england613 11 ай бұрын
We're still rudimentary in our technology, and the, "time", of space exploration, has been ongoing since 1957.
@brettatton
@brettatton 11 ай бұрын
The weekly TV show was called The Wonderful World of Disney not Disneyland. Disneyland was the first theme park in LA. They quite often promoted Disneyland on the TV show. The weekly episodes came from the various 'lands' that co-responded to the themed areas of the park.
@dr.jamesolack8504
@dr.jamesolack8504 11 ай бұрын
Disneyland was not in L.A. it is in Anaheim.
@anthonybarcellos2206
@anthonybarcellos2206 Жыл бұрын
Spiro Agnew, Nixon's vice president, was cheerleading for a Mars mission right after the first moon landing. He was widely mocked, and one editorial cartoonist depicted him strapped to the side of a rocket blasting into space. (He later resigned from office in a "nolo contendere" plea bargain on bribery charges. He might have been better off blasted into space.)
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 Жыл бұрын
Most Americans soon would have favored sending Agnew to Mars -- one way.
@StormyDog
@StormyDog Жыл бұрын
@@brianarbenz1329 Especially all those nattering nabobs of negativity... ;-)
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 Жыл бұрын
@@StormyDog Remember those Spiro Agnew watches? I guess they're set to Martian time.
@EricPellerin-o5o
@EricPellerin-o5o 10 ай бұрын
Futurama did him wrong. He was depicted as a headless android who only grunted to communicate. It was hilarious and I had no idea he was Nixons vp
@braydenbrennan7452
@braydenbrennan7452 Жыл бұрын
A great show similar to this is for all man kind
@Shadowkey392
@Shadowkey392 11 ай бұрын
Von Braun isn’t referred to as the “father of rocket science”. Father of MODERN rocket science, maybe, but then Goddard is also called the “father of modern rocketry” which is the exact same thing. Von Braun is more commonly known as the “father of space travel”.
@__da_da_films___
@__da_da_films___ 11 ай бұрын
...Great channel! Always a good post.
@neglectedloves
@neglectedloves Жыл бұрын
"What if" is actually the Apple+ series "For all Mankind" which I think is an amazing fantasy
@kevinsamphere7874
@kevinsamphere7874 Жыл бұрын
MARS & BEYOND
@southtexasprepper1837
@southtexasprepper1837 Жыл бұрын
Being a big fan of Science Fiction, I find that the concept that Wernher von Braun's Spacecraft mirrors what was used in the 1955 movie "Conquest of Space" or vise versa.
@markduchey8785
@markduchey8785 4 ай бұрын
That movies spaceship design was taken from Wernher von Braun's actual designs that appeared in a 1954 issue of Collier's.
@cheythompson740
@cheythompson740 10 ай бұрын
His glider might not have worked but a glider on Mars should work considering a multi rotor can fly on Mars
@jefferysterner
@jefferysterner 10 ай бұрын
a rotor lifting a camera and some electronics is different than a ship carrying people and payload.
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman Жыл бұрын
Once the rocket goes up, who cares where they come down? Thats not my department says Werner Von Braun.
@Tate525
@Tate525 Жыл бұрын
Sounds really safe.
@tracyhardyjohnson1315
@tracyhardyjohnson1315 Жыл бұрын
Showing your age there LOL. My beatnik parents were also fans of Tom Lehrer.
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman Жыл бұрын
@@tracyhardyjohnson1315 Actually in my 30s. But Tom Lehrer is a local treasure.
@joseeduardobolisfortes
@joseeduardobolisfortes Жыл бұрын
Is it true that Von Brown named the mars administrator character in this book "Elon"?
@StormyDog
@StormyDog Жыл бұрын
"Von Braun’s book contains a striking coincidence: “The Martian government was run by ten men, whose leader was elected by popular vote for five years and was called ‘Elon’." Apparently "Elon" was the title of the elected leader.
@menotyou1234
@menotyou1234 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Elons dad picked his name from the book.
@StormyDog
@StormyDog Жыл бұрын
@@menotyou1234 An interesting post on this subject by Steve Baker: "“The Mars Project” (a technical book - not a novel) was written by Wernher Von Braun in 1953 ... But the fictionalized/novelized version of the story (“Project Mars: A Technical Tale. “) that put the name “Elon” in print for the first time was rejected by every publisher it was offered to - and wasn’t finally published until 2006, long after Von Braun’s death - and long after Elon Musk’s parents named him. So they could not possibly have been influenced by it in choosing that name - even if they somehow intended to raise him as a Mars colony enthusiast." A strange coincidence anyway.
@airgunningyup
@airgunningyup Жыл бұрын
Im hoping to see man walk on mars in my lifetime. At 42 , odds are pretty good , but the artemis mission has crazy delays and thats simply returning to the moon , so who knows. We wasted billions in vietnam to no avail , while killing the apollo program.. Unreal
@jamin4556
@jamin4556 Жыл бұрын
We so should've keep going after the Apollo missions. We should've already had a base on the Moon and our first steps on Mars long ago. Imagine what we could accomplish if we pooled our resources and did this together for all humanity not just Nationalism..
@NikZ8736
@NikZ8736 11 ай бұрын
First people traveling to Mars will have to sacrifice a third of their life because of cosmic radiation. Volunteers?
@airgunningyup
@airgunningyup 11 ай бұрын
@@NikZ8736 Ive always said we need to be sending senior citizens
@kieranharper261
@kieranharper261 Жыл бұрын
We could have landed on Mars sure, if there was the money and the will to. But getting back? Completely different story. Considering we still haven't figured out ISRU well enough yet, and the fuel/resources needed for a complete round trip is prohibitively massive for *today's* tech much less what we had in the 60s/70s. If for no other reason than materials science and manufacturing limitations, plus development time being limited with a lack of computational modeling and calculation speeds
@williamburroughs9686
@williamburroughs9686 10 ай бұрын
5:10 I wanted to know if gliding into Mars was practical as we know it has very little atmosphere. 6:15 I see. 7:30 This reminds me of Project Orion in the 1960s. 9:08 Genius! But why Silicon oil? Why not water? 9:58 Metallic element cesium... I wonder how it would stack up against the ion thrusters 10:25. 14:14 Now this is more like the Project Orion in the 1960s. But it used it's fuel as mini bombs to move it. Sadly it would never make it and was axed by the Kennedy Administration.
@Theveganshift77
@Theveganshift77 Жыл бұрын
Colonizing Mars makes no sense when there are still vast uninhabited areas on our planet. North America is like 90% empty especially Canada
@drewmadenew3000
@drewmadenew3000 11 ай бұрын
Great video! VERY informative and not filled with junk science. Loved every minute of it! Earned a like and a sub from this space geek.
@komradewirelesscaller6716
@komradewirelesscaller6716 10 ай бұрын
Way, WAY cool awe awesome stuff! As the old saying goes of all the words of tongue and pin, the saddest are these what might have been!
@akwakatsaka1826
@akwakatsaka1826 Жыл бұрын
Overall a great video , nice to learn about con brauns novel!
@Harry-u9v
@Harry-u9v 11 ай бұрын
Giving up doesn't always mean you are weak. Sometimes it means that you are strong enough to let go.
@stagesdelight4917
@stagesdelight4917 3 ай бұрын
That intro sounds exactly like the storfilmen for ‘for all mankind’ on Apple play. In case this sounds interresting. As a space nerd, i highly recommend it 💪
@dougdeanwater1987
@dougdeanwater1987 11 ай бұрын
Great video
@markleyg
@markleyg Жыл бұрын
Disney's T.V. show was called "Wonderful World of Disney", not "Disneyland".
@markleyg
@markleyg 11 ай бұрын
@fleetingfacet8028 Yes, there was a "the".
@CromoPaleoShow
@CromoPaleoShow 9 ай бұрын
Man we could have have been to Mars before I was born. 22 years later I’m drooling over For all Mankind wishing it was real
@Alienalloy
@Alienalloy Жыл бұрын
comment for the algorithm and to help the channel
@protoolsfanatic7276
@protoolsfanatic7276 Жыл бұрын
Living on mars is the dumbest suicide mission ever.
@SirBobbyDuncan
@SirBobbyDuncan 3 ай бұрын
3:12 This is when you lost me... It's in the shape of a bullet because outside of a drop of water, bullet is the most aerodynamic.
@richardcranium5393
@richardcranium5393 4 ай бұрын
Your graphic for the mercury craft said mecury lol
@DeadDancers
@DeadDancers 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t expect extraterrestrial colonisation to be feasible until we’ve proved we can do it underwater for a at least a decade without issue.
@rremnar
@rremnar 11 ай бұрын
Those would be different technologies, in some respect. Though I understand what you're saying and I agree. I think the Antartic is a better place for trying to test colonization. We already have stations there doing science (probably).
@yggdrasil9039
@yggdrasil9039 11 ай бұрын
Step 1 of the plan is the construction of Rotating space stations. Interesting. Perhaps we should be more focused on acheived step 1 first. That and a lunar base.
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman Жыл бұрын
Kind of a weak ending, and by ending on such a passive cliff hanger, you make it sound like Nixon killed the program. It was more accurate to say that the focus on a reusable space launch system seemed to make so much more sense and was so better suited to expanding our orbital infrastructure that it was much more logical to focus on that, because it would give us the flexibility to do other things later. Of course, the Shuttle turned out to be nowhere near what it was promised to be. But hindsight is 20/20.
@davidtatro7457
@davidtatro7457 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! It was an incredibly interesting slice of aerospace history! Liked and subscribed.
@Ari.Atland
@Ari.Atland Ай бұрын
That book about a unified earth kept unified by a giant orbital weapon. Sounds metal as fehk.
@AndreasW-p4r
@AndreasW-p4r 11 ай бұрын
RATHER THAN FINDING WAYS TO HELP OUR PLANET
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Жыл бұрын
The reuseable glider = spaceshuttle + spacestation was proposed as the starting point for a much bigger moonlanding. This way, a thing learned through the V2, the launching costs would sink dramatically. Instead, earth-direct-to-moon, the less intelligent way had to be done. Exactly that doomed the US-spaceprogram right after achieving the first set goal. The shuttle would have needed the saturn rocket anyway to get off the ground.
@samr.england613
@samr.england613 11 ай бұрын
You have no idea what you're talking about. The Earth-Direct-to-Moon was the way to beat the Soviet communists to the goal, and THAT was the ONLY priority at the time! The whole POINT of the US's moon-landing program was to BEAT the Soviet Union to the goal of landing a man on the Moon. Do you understand? Science, while performed, especially on later Apollo missions, was SECONDARY to the PRIMARY geopolitical motivation of beating the commies to the Moon. Like it or not, that is the truth.
@Batlca
@Batlca 11 ай бұрын
All Mars pictures are taken from isolated area in Ireland. You can find videos about it on KZbin. With nasa rover and other naša equipment.
@yohighness
@yohighness 9 күн бұрын
Looks like Von Braun was the benchmark for SpaceX.
@3dfxvoodoocards6
@3dfxvoodoocards6 Жыл бұрын
I think we need at least another 100 years to be able to reliably send people to Mars.
@fransschepens3
@fransschepens3 4 ай бұрын
They are already there sleapy head.
@Aloha_XERO
@Aloha_XERO Жыл бұрын
Who here has heard to opening statement of this video and reflected on the awesome work of the Apple TV+ series [ For All Mankind ]
@parapitro8828
@parapitro8828 Ай бұрын
We went to the moon in 1962 we went to Mars in 1966 (John Lear). In fact the inhabitants of Mars have warned NASA that they have already colonized the 'red planet'. It's not because you are an American agency that we can afford everything.
@KeithPrince-cp3me
@KeithPrince-cp3me 3 ай бұрын
In the early 1970s literature, which i still have, predicted a NASA base on Mars for 1985. It was assumed the Apollo program would continue beyond 1973 and lead to a moon base by the late 1970s. A Mars mission profile had been planned using the tech of the time, which was entirely capable and plausible, being a kind if Apollo on a grander scale. Needless to say budgets and waning public enthusiasm for space after the moon landings - been there, done it - saw the Mars plans avandoned. Nevertheless, it's interesting to think there could have people on Mars 40 years ago, one of the great 'what ifs?'.
@swiftflight7927
@swiftflight7927 8 ай бұрын
"they even shot his little brother" had me rolling xD
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 11 ай бұрын
Gliders on Mars would glide like a stone!I don't think that the problem is getting to Mars it's surviving the trip there and back plus the time spent there.
@luki188
@luki188 Ай бұрын
The biggest problem with all of this is the lack of proper space infrastructure. Space Ports would have been really good like we do with Airports and Planes. Something like that already exists but only for the Orbit and the Artemis Programm is being heaviely slashed with budget cuts and private companies like Boeing and Blue Origin just being a burden for Nasa makes it all just seem...... hopeless?
@heru-deshet359
@heru-deshet359 11 ай бұрын
If NASA had not been and still is such a bureaucratic mess and if they hadn't stopped the space program we would have colonized Mars and heading out into space by now.
@murdersplace-wz5ny
@murdersplace-wz5ny Жыл бұрын
I did boiler cleaning for coal power plants and paper mills for 20 plus years. Used 2250hp frac pumps @ 8k pressure 600gals minute. Boilers are for steam turbine electric and to cook chemicals. You could generate power with each launch. Build tunnel straight down line boiler tubing layer with high heat refrac. Build a tunnel horizontal to tee into launch pad. It will contain the force and divert explosion to where ever you decide to vent. Also allow the rocket engines to all be brought up to power without cooking launch pad. You could lower pad to ground. It will pull enormous vacuum at inlet and needs vent tunnels that damper the effects. You can use boiler tubing down the tunnels to convert heat into usable energy and save wear and tear to launch site. You plan to make multiple launch per hours lot of money being wasted. You would be able to run all engines at idle up to test launch without launching. When I saw the damage to concrete on pad it has bothered me every since. I have done concrete demolition where we cut out bad spots on bridges. We used 15k psi @ 50 per minute. Stripping concrete leaves rebar. Had rotary head and thick metal blast shield. Also we use pressure washer with 300hp 609hp diesel motor Vacuum truck with 300hp would be ahead of time to have them with electric motor chemical plants are strict on emissions first to build would be ahead of everyone. Want percentage to go into trust to build assisted living for my brother and the elderly in Crockett Texas build this town into retirement for elderly. Self driving vans on call for wheelchair build back medical facilities and college. Training for all mabe a plant for you. Ez to find.
@Jasonfallen71
@Jasonfallen71 Жыл бұрын
Starship is snub-nosed, has two flaps very close to the nose, bigger flaps towards the bottom and has heat shielding tiles on over half of it. Other than being made of metal and a cylinder with the “pointy end up and the flamey end down” (Everyday Astronaut) there are no significant similarities between Starship and anything shown that was colored by von Braun. Not to be too picky but there’s no way those ships look like each other. Otherwise the show is good.
@ReveredDead
@ReveredDead Жыл бұрын
NASA is being put to shame for how incredibly successful Falcon 9 and Heavy have been. And how revolutionary Starship is. Just proves that the government is worthless when it comes to innovation and being bold.
@kashutosh9132
@kashutosh9132 11 ай бұрын
​@@ReveredDead Spacex is build on the shoulders of NASA. Achievements of NASA far outweighs SpaceX.
@rremnar
@rremnar 11 ай бұрын
@@ReveredDead I believe that in the early days of NASA, their achievements were impressive and they got shit done. Today they are frauds, can't even return to the moon (if we ever were there in the first place). Their claims of rovers on Mars seems sketchy, because they say it takes several months to reach Mars, but a few weeks later claim to have pictures. They need to be thoroughly investigated, on all accounts; especially when they waste billions of dollars on achieving nothing.
@4yerears
@4yerears 5 ай бұрын
​@@ReveredDeadIf Musk is such a badass, why can't he even put a person on the moon? NASA did it 55 years ago with tinfoil Cracker Jack box toy.
@Gemma-o8e
@Gemma-o8e 11 ай бұрын
Never bend your head. Always hold it high. Look the world right in the eye.
@dellseasandoval8187
@dellseasandoval8187 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. keep up the good work.
@redstar8226
@redstar8226 11 ай бұрын
No humans can pass through the Van Allen belt that is over 3,000 °F
@clydecox2108
@clydecox2108 Жыл бұрын
Some of us never lost interest and some of us are still waiting. Now we’re waiting for Elon to bring the cost down.
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Жыл бұрын
Thats already done. If nobody catches up, then there is no need for further costreduction.
@clydecox2108
@clydecox2108 Жыл бұрын
Still his promise is much lower than it is today. Low enough for ordinary people to go to space.
@Joao-ur7ey
@Joao-ur7ey Жыл бұрын
​@@clydecox2108I'm 27 and I still hope that in my lifetime I'll be able to get a ticket to a trip on the moon (I know I'm dreaming too big). I heard that in the next few decades we'll maybe able to buy a 5k to 10k dollar ticket to, at the very least, be on earth orbit for a few days inside the Starship. I hope we don't end up like the kids and young adults from the 60's, 70's and 80's that also dreamed about something like this but never got it.
@prrfrrpurochicas
@prrfrrpurochicas 11 ай бұрын
​@@MichaelWinter-ss6lxright look at India, did it with a very low budget. Interesting 🤔 but Elon got some good news developments too.
@johnangell7758
@johnangell7758 8 ай бұрын
People keep saying that the technology then was rudimentary, which is massively insulting and wrong.
@rays2506
@rays2506 4 ай бұрын
The striking feature of each of these Mars concepts from the 1960s-80s is the inadequacy of the propulsion systems. Nuclear electric and nuclear thermal propulsion are inferior to chemical propulsion for fast transfers from Earth to Mars (~200 days). Now, with the development of the full flow staged combustion methalox engines, the Raptor 2 and 3, sending Starships with 100t (metric ton) payloads to the Martian surface is possible.
@fransschepens3
@fransschepens3 4 ай бұрын
No you need anti gravity
@davebooth5608
@davebooth5608 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic presentation! You presented this so everyone can understand and I thank you!!
@PeterBriggs-q8k
@PeterBriggs-q8k Жыл бұрын
Very interesting can't wait for the next episode
@culture101
@culture101 11 ай бұрын
First you need artificial gravity, proper shielding and mitigate all health risks to ab acceptable level before you can even think of an expedition let alone a colonisation.
@IARRCSim
@IARRCSim 11 ай бұрын
6:36 "aside from there being no life on Mars" should be "aside from there being no life discovered yet on Mars". We're still testing and searching for possible life there. We haven't looked enough to be sure there is none.
@bbbf09
@bbbf09 4 ай бұрын
Not sure your assertion that a glider would *never* work. Parachutes work on Mars. There is a helicopter there. I understand Mars atmosphere is much thinner than estimated at time of Von Braun...but the glider wings could much much bigger. Possibly still require some landing rocket assist. It may still be unfeasible , but unless you've done the maths I cant see it as a 'never'.
@dasovietunion3370
@dasovietunion3370 2 ай бұрын
8:21 I know damn well thats Slurms Mackenzie in that picture
@waynebrinker8095
@waynebrinker8095 11 ай бұрын
A Simple 3 Step Plan to Mars. (1) Build and board a giant rocket ship, then Blast Off! (2) Navigate through the dangers of space, and safely on the Red Planet. (3) Die.
@MalcolmRose-l3b
@MalcolmRose-l3b 10 ай бұрын
The public appetite for for space travel faded because of the "been there, done that" factor for the moon - there was still, I think appetite for more deep space exploration. I remember as a kid (I was 8 when Neil Armstrong made his "one small step") reading the NASA plans for future space missions and being enthralled. Brooke Bond Tea in the UK used to include little picture cards in their packets of tea - I bullied my mum into buying their tea and collected them in a little book, "Race Into Space". The art was incredible. I've spent the rest of my life regretting the ending of the manned space programme and that I wasn't going to see men on Mars, or any of the other great stuff predicted. And I can't help reflecting on what America (and the world) would be like today if the funding had continued - I read somewhere that the bulk of the money spent on the Apollo programme stayed in America so all those space engineers on good salaries were adding to consumption and paying taxes etc, and the technological advances were astounding. NASA made science and engineering cool - generations of bright kids could have been encouraged to follow careers in those fields if the jobs were there. And I think that would have changed the culture of the country for the better - the more I travel America today the more frequently it seems closed minded, pessimistic and provincial in attitude - possibly the social changes would have been even cooler than the scientific ones.
@ReveredDead
@ReveredDead Жыл бұрын
Big problem is that people back then didn't full know what a year in space would do to the human body. Or even understand what 1/3 of Earths gravity would do over years on the Martian surface. Now? After decades of experiments in space (like Scott Kelly's year in space), we understand far more than we ever could back then. I think with Starship inevitably going to be a success and Artemis 2 planned in two years. It's highly likely we could have the first human on Mars in the 2030's. Granted I bet the mission will take 4-5 years planning. So I'd bet 2035.
@samr.england613
@samr.england613 11 ай бұрын
All indicators are that: Years of exposure to Mars's .38 gravity will be a very bad thing and seriously detrimental to human physiology. Scott Kelly is fucked up to this day, and freely admits it! So too is Russian cosmonaut Polyakov who spent even more time in space than Kelly. Don't count on "starship" (liquid-fueled, chemical rocket), or SpaceX, to solve these problems of microgravity or partial-gravity,
@loktom4068
@loktom4068 11 ай бұрын
US can't even put humans on the moon today. The Apollo mission is nothing but a cheap Hollywood for fools.
@Robweisenhowser
@Robweisenhowser 11 ай бұрын
With a moon colony underway this decade we will learn a lot about what it takes to make a perfect colony and in doing so it would rapidly progress human expansion into the solar system and beyond.
@Sibyl-j1v
@Sibyl-j1v 11 ай бұрын
The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence but in the mastery of his passions.
@bbbobbyburkhalter
@bbbobbyburkhalter 11 ай бұрын
In regards to that, first system being expendable, that could or would've laid the ground work to build a much more reusable version that could be used multiple times to and from Mars just my opinion
@christopherayers4416
@christopherayers4416 9 ай бұрын
Great episode. It left me wondering how many G's they were pulling when 3 nuclear rockets fire up to send you to Mars.
@1337BlueBird
@1337BlueBird Жыл бұрын
Wondering why you have only 172k sub, amazing video
@anthonyzornig
@anthonyzornig Жыл бұрын
Well, kind of biased, this essay. The Soviet Union caused A LOT of motivation for the US to conquer space but no mention at all. Not defending the Soviet Union but it is obvious that the creator of this content avoided any mentioning of the first person, first human object on other planets and, most important, the motivator of the creator channel‘s name: space race.
@Merry-c6l
@Merry-c6l 11 ай бұрын
There is no duty we so underrate as the duty of being happy. By being happy we sow anonymous benefits upon the world.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 3 ай бұрын
Von Braun was not 'the father of rocketry", that title belongs to Dr Robert Goddard, everything about Von Braun's V2 rocket, throttable liquid fueled engine's that were gimbal mounted for direction control, gyro stabilized flight and turbo pumps for fuel feed were all pioneered by Dr Goddard. Von Braun himself said after the war that without access to Goddard's work he'd never have gotten a rocket off the ground before the war was over, not only that but when US intelligence agents were interrogating some of the Germans involved in their rocket program one of them who thought they were playing mind games with him said "Why don't you just ask your own Dr Goddard? Surely he knows the answers to these questions." On March 16th 1926 when Goddard launched a liquid fueled rocket with the features all necessary for space flight like a gimbal mounted engine and gyro stabilization he's credited with having ushered in the Space Age on that day. And there's other things that people mistakenly credit to Von Braun or the German rocket program which are actually American inventions that were patented before the war such as circulating the fuel through the combustion chamber body and engine bell to cool them, that was patented in 1936 by Reaction Motors Incorporated, they were bought by Rocketdyne in the 50's and it's their scientists under Rocketdyne who were responsible for designing the F1 engine, it was Reaction Motors Incorporated who made the engine's for the X1 and the other X planes with off the shelf designs they already had, by the time Von Braun and his crew got their first Redstone rocket off the ground Scott Crossfield and the rest of that team that were developing the X15, which also had engine's designed and built by Reaction Motors Incorporated, already had over 50 flights under their belt with various X planes that all had their engine's.
@markschoenberger7825
@markschoenberger7825 11 ай бұрын
Parallels between rocket shape from then and now are interesting, but expected. There is only 1 efficient shape to use with rocket propulsion through an atmosphere, and that is the one we all use.
@Richievaillant
@Richievaillant Жыл бұрын
Watch 'For All Mankind' for a really interesting alternate reality that shows this happening. It's sooo good
@Diesel0807
@Diesel0807 11 ай бұрын
Von brauns headstone has psalms 19.1 engraved on it
@davidroddini1512
@davidroddini1512 10 ай бұрын
Still sounds like a good plan except change the ships going back and forth between earth and mars to an Aldrin cycler.
@sinOsiris
@sinOsiris 11 ай бұрын
.... recompute .... recompute .... start
@ajsalvlk
@ajsalvlk Жыл бұрын
This one is the best video so far.
@TheSpaceRaceYT
@TheSpaceRaceYT Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@DebraJean196
@DebraJean196 Жыл бұрын
Neat info! Really enjoyed it.
@yamspaine
@yamspaine 11 ай бұрын
LEO was probably a better thing to fund. The Shuttle probably should not have been the vessel though.
@zack6192
@zack6192 11 ай бұрын
An astronaut just spent 377 days in space. He not walk when he landed on earth. We need much faster flight times to Mars. We lose too much mussle mass if we spend too long in microgravity.
@77AbleArcher
@77AbleArcher 11 ай бұрын
I doubt a human could even make it there, or even survive a week on Mars. No magnetosphere, low gravity, and very little atmospheric pressure. We need those things...
@susancaleca4796
@susancaleca4796 11 ай бұрын
What would be the name of the first colony be called
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