Trump's VP pick & Georgia's anti-Russian revolt - The Week in 60 Minutes | SpectatorTV

The Trump-Biden rematch has been decided, and they’ve agreed to debate each other later this year. But who will Trump choose to cheer him on as his candidate for Vice President? Deputy editor Freddy Gray looks at the options with this week’s host, John Connolly.
Also on the show, Tina Bokuchava, Georgian opposition leader, and Natalie Sabanadze, former head of the Georgian mission to the EU, discuss whether Georgia is on the brink of revolution; columnist Toby Young and Baroness Fox share their frustrations with pointless legislation; and journalists Mary Harrington and Mary Wakefield explore why asexuality is on the rise among young people, especially young women.
00:00 Welcome from John Connolly
01:03 Who will be Trump’s VP? With Freddy Gray
12:48 Is Georgia on the brink of revolution? With Tina Bokuchava and Natalie Sabanadze
28:16 Does the UK have too much pointless legislation? With Toby Young and Claire Fox
51:31 Why is Gen Z choosing celibacy? With Mary Wakefield and Mary Harrington
// SUBSCRIBE TO THE SPECTATOR
Get 12 issues for £12, plus a free £20 John Lewis/Waitrose voucher
www.spectator.co.uk/tvoffer
// FREE PODCASTS FROM THE SPECTATOR
Hear more from The Spectator's journalists on their podcasts, covering everything from the politics of the UK, US and China, to religion, literature, lifestyle and more.
www.spectator.co.uk/podcasts/
// FOLLOW US
/ spectator
/ officialspectator
/ the-spectator
/ spectator1828
/ thespectatormagazine
Theme song written and performed by Jon Barker © 2020 Jonathan Stewart Barker
Publisher Jonathan Stewart Barker 100%, administered by prsformusic.com
Recording © 2020 Jonathan Stewart Barker 100%, administered by ppl.com

[@paulpenfold2352]

The Claire Fox and Toby Young conversation was excellent.

[@christinehirst317]

One of the best discussions I’ve ever heard.

[@alexanderlucie-smith2386]

Claire Fox is excellent. Just so sensible. More like her, please!

[@borderlands6606]

Proper old left, when it was about getting things done that made people's lives better.

[@Millie.com232]

Fabulous - even if you don’t agree with her you know she is sincere and principled cf someone like Yvette Cooper or Analese what’s her name

[@andrewhawkes9486]

Claire Fox and Toby Young are spot on about meaningless legislation detracting from stuff that matters. It's basically just like throwing a dead Trixie on the table.

[@Joekd6.1]

that's why the Tories are sinking into oblivion

[@michaelgibson7466]

How down to eartj Clair Fox is. The country needs many more like her in politics.

[@John-kj7tv]

"dog killing is not a vote winner - hasn't been for some time" lol.

[@121zoso]

Certainly didn't work for Jeremy Thorpe...

[@theoutsider6191]

LOLs, she obviously never saw what happened when that lovely chap put a cat in a wheelie bin and was filmed doing it 😂😂😂😂

[@markstrevett1284]

There is too much law and not enough order.

[@sisiphas]

Very good comment

[@sarrhodes8277]

Beautifully put.

[@RichardEnglander]

31:10 5 years in gaol! That's the maximum for carrying a knife in London, but their average sentence is 7 months... 😂😂

[@wanderlustig8037]

Claire Fox *national treasure* love this woman

[@DS9TREK]

The primary duty of a parliamentarian isn't to legislate. Ever since 1215 their main duty is to control the spending of the executive

[@RichardEnglander]

Surely Trump will pick Vivek or Tulsi? They stand out a mile above the others, id actually like to see a Vivek/Tulsi government.

[@zoot4358]

He won't go for Vivek because of his last name. Just sounds crap Trump Ramaswamy vs Trump Pence Will be something punchy. Yes he's that shallow

[@RichardEnglander]

@@zoot4358 I think the main reason he would not go for Vivek is because he's too smart, although Vivek is doing a good job of keeping Donnie happy. Orange Man is far more likely to pick Tulsi because she's a woman and because she is pretty. She will poll well for him and she can play good cop.

[@mikegray8776]

Tulsi understands the “swamp” much better than most - and I think would be enthusiastic in the fight against corruption and lobby/bribery. As an outsider, Trump needs an INSIDER alongside him. Vivek would be the perfect future partner for a DeSantis or a Hawley for the exact same reasons.

[@DrRhysPritchardPhDMScBSc]

Remember the USA 🇺🇸 government is run and controlled by AIPAC 🇮🇱 so I would ask, “how this affects the affects AIPAC 🇮🇱 financiers” not the USA 🇺🇸, if you want to know why this is happening? You will never get the full picture unless you realise who the USA 🇺🇸 government, intelligence agencies, press and American 🇺🇸 social media, are run by and that is AIPAC 🇮🇱 financiers. In fact I would stop saying the American 🇺🇸 government and start to refer to it as the AIPAC 🇮🇱 government as they are in control of it not the American 🇺🇸 population. It’s not the American 🇺🇸 government interfering it’s always AIPAC 🇮🇱 interfering. This is why if you want “Christ to be lord” in the USA 🇺🇸 again you need to remove foreign AIPAC 🇮🇱 interference in USA 🇺🇸 politics as AIPAC 🇮🇱 don’t believe “Christ is lord”.

[@mikegray8776]

As an unapologetic conservative (as now distinct from a Tory voter) I find myself absolutely behind EVERY point made by Claire Fox. Even Toby Young occasionally moved off his habitual “fence”, pulled along by the force and sensibility of her positions. Unlike Toby’s Dad, Claire (along with James Arbuthnot) provides a rare but significant argument FOR Life Peers, and the possible maintenance of the Lords as a viable form of second chamber.

[@jim23mac]

I'm so glad that stories about cats are still dominating my feed despite my indifference

[@nickscott6139]

I'm glad Toby's cat was called Trixie. He'd have looked damn stupid if it was called Taxi.

[@peterforsythe3643]

Toby and Claire Fox: two 👍👍💯

[@alcoholly18]

I very much feel bad for the dog but that kristi noem conversation was hilarious 🤣

[@sarrhodes8277]

You forgot about the goat....!

[@Lord_Saruman]

I'm disappointed Freddy did not put Governor Noem statements into context. She grew up in a ranch, attitudes to how humans and animals coexist are hugely different from those in metropolitan areas. Plus, are we going to judge what someone is able to deliver in the here and now based on one action they took at the age of 14???

[@Cassp0nk]

Yeah because it’s clear she is a sociopath. And she is the one who brought it up so she clearly thought it was praise worthy.

[@mikegray8776]

Noem is precisely what she appears to be - arrogant, shallow and insensitive. The perfect embodiment of indulged American elitism. Remember how she backed down utterly on males in women’s sports, when threatened with sanctions by Amazon?? Tough talker - but totally corruptible.

[@michaelpeacock6360]

My wife is Georgian....she sent this video to her family and friends in Tiblisi....she says little is true in the piece on Georgia....the majority of Goergians support the new laws.In 2014 Ukraine voted for Russian leaning Government, but US and EU coup removed it and installed corrupt Zelensky...

[@JM-bg1it]

Sure Ivan, we believe you

[@jdg9999]

This should be obvious to anyone who thinks for themselves. It's the elected government so it probably has more public support than a few thousand protesters.

[@jdg9999]

​@@JM-bg1itDo you ever actually consider how brainwashed you are? Every single thing that doesn't follow the anti Russian line is dismissed as a ""Russian bot" lol. You think it's somehow crazy to think that the democratically elected government would have public support?

[@estateestate5486]

two guests voicing the opposition's views on Georgia matters. you could've at least brought in one to represent the other side.

[@HazzaHbomb]

A genuine middle finger to the rejection of meritocracy over certain people getting the job for being a minority or for simply being a female from birth

[@hecter3008]

They want to join the EU. Of course they do. 100s of billions in handouts. Where will the EU borders end?

[@DieFlabbergast]

Erm ... Myanmar, probably

[@HazzaHbomb]

I like he doesn't feel he has to pick a woman

[@turquoiseowl]

nice balance provided on Georgia Maidan 2, not

[@FC-PeakVersatility]

David Cameron sunk my taxes into reducing the number of laws we have to remember and now some idiot is nitpicking new ones into existence 🙄 I lost a cat, a mother cat with a litter at home so she didn't go willingly, so I know the pain of losing an animal on but I don't need a law to trap my neighbour from tempting her home 🤦

[@XYZ-td6sn]

I won’t lie, watching the UK finally come to an end is satisfying enough, but all the squealing from the ‘well read’ classes makes it all the funnier. Good luck guys! Love from Singapore 🇸🇬

[@paulpenfold2352]

Why does Mary Harrington think it's okay to come on a program like this repeatedly sniffing. Get a tissue!

[@allangriffiths9555]

Didn't even notice Freddie's Trump impression.

[@AdrieneSays]

Kristy Noem might be a "mass animal slaughterer" as Freddy says, but the hypocrisy of the horrified public is astonishing. It could be argued that everyone who eats meat is even more of a "mass animal slaughterer" - they just have someone else do the dirty work.

[@LeftLib]

I think the topic of asexuality would have been improved if there had been some research done into it. What percentage of women and men are asexual? What is the stability of these identities? How many people once identified as asexuals are no longer? How does that number compare with heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality? What are their cultural references? If for example they enjoy films like Moulin Rouge, how does that make sense to them given they are asexual? It would be good if an asexual person were actually interviewed, it seemed like there was a lot of guesswork about what is going on here. That all said, interesting topic, glad you covered it.

[@theoutsider6191]

Its just another part of identity bollocks isn't it, which is why it is not based on fact.... Many people will feel at points in their lives that they don't want to have a sexual relationship. Sometimes through depression, sometimes after having a crappy relationship and so on. It certainly isn't the end of the world if people figure out that the idea of living on their own is preferable for them, it can even be very liberating. No compromising necessary 🙂

[@LeftLib]

@@theoutsider6191 If it is possible for some people to be gay then it seems to me perfectly possible that some people can be asexual.

[@barbararen3617]

The problem with foreign aid is the many conditions laid upon the country receiving foreign aid. These can materially affect and influence the actions of governments.

[@zoot4358]

Toby making the same boring points he's been making for years....most Brexit voters weren't dreaming of Singapore...they just wanted immigration control. The elitist pro Brexit idea sank with Truss

[@brianholmes3547]

I was sickened by the way Fred and your host giggled their way through their discussion about the odious Trump. I just cannot understand why the Spectator seems to find Trump amusing. He is the worst example of a politician I can think of and serious journalists should be pointing out his many nasty faults such as lying, misogyny, fraud, rape. Should I go on?

[@jamonit7169]

You don't get it, they're trying to mock Trump not find him amusing. Maybe you can give examples of his "lying, misogyny, fraud, rape".

[@brianholmes3547]

@@jamonit7169 you can watch any tape of Trump on say KZbin and every one gives examples for you, have you been hibernating?

[@galewhite9723]

You obviously believe the press...wakey wakey...

[@scherzandokarasu6353]

Agree Freddy appears to have something of coquettish hard-on for 🎺.

[@lk4136]

Middle aged man going around some back street calling Trixie, Trixie-- lucky he didn't get done for soliciting.....

[@hezkyden]

Baroness Fox talks sense but for far too long and far too often. Interviewing either Claire Fox OR Toby Young would have been more productive.

[@shakespeare4bears]

So, did Trixie turn up in the end?

[@user-jn2gk4oy7h]

@MAGA IS A MOVEMENT. There are many people who will be able to fill Trump's shoes in 2028.. Vivek, Byron Daniels, JD Vance.

[@michaelgibson7466]

Keep your hands still, Toby. Please.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Strange how Feminists think that the problem with the decline in child birth is porn and not that a male can agree to a tumble and find himself indebted for a child he did not agree to have for the next 18 years or more. If they do get married, she can walk out on the marriage after relatively few years. She can take half or more of everything the male has, hand an ongoing bill to the father while denying access with the full weight of the state assisting her. This even if they had a conversation about children and she decided to get pregnant instantly rather than the agreed up upon career position to pay for the child. I am very loving but I wouldn't go near the average UK woman.

[@user-ep4tk4bv7b]

Freddie needs to correct his humming and erring, It's a difficult listen.

[@DieFlabbergast]

For you, maybe. Too picky by half, I'd say. Freddy talks normally. That may be out of fashion, but I think he's fine the way he is.

[@mikegray8776]

One of the more entertaining and engaging commentators of the current era. You seem rather prissy in your criticism - for a tendency which I hadn’t previously even noticed.

[@user-ep4tk4bv7b]

Professionals should be "err and hum" free; a silent thinking-pause would be preferable.

[@Mitjitsu]

The last piece hasn't presented any evidence for their positions other than going off into their own little world. The reason for declining child births are likely rooted in economics.

[@kenricnarbrough8191]

Finally! We have Toby Young on the ropes. Am putting together a legal team from my best NGO's to bring him down on historic pet-luring charges.

[@DrRhysPritchardPhDMScBSc]

Remember the USA 🇺🇸 government is run and controlled by AIPAC 🇮🇱 so I would ask, “how this affects AIPAC 🇮🇱 financiers” not the USA 🇺🇸, if you want to know why this is happening? You will never get the full picture unless you realise who the USA 🇺🇸 government, intelligence agencies, press and American 🇺🇸 social media, are run by and that is AIPAC 🇮🇱 financiers. In fact I would stop saying the American 🇺🇸 government and start to refer to it as the AIPAC 🇮🇱 government as they are in control of it not the American 🇺🇸 population. It’s not the American 🇺🇸 government interfering it’s always AIPAC 🇮🇱 interfering. This is why if you want “Christ to be lord” in the USA 🇺🇸 again you need to remove foreign AIPAC 🇮🇱 interference in USA 🇺🇸 politics as AIPAC 🇮🇱 don’t believe “Christ is lord”.

[@IanPortlandHill-de6vq]

Only Claire and Toby are of any value.this is such a poor relation to the magazine. They really should up the game or get rid of it entirely since I'm considering cancelling the magazine just because of this

[@caracalla6472]

Well, that makes a lot of sense. You think Spectator TV is rubbish, no patch on the magazine. So you're going to cancel the magazine. And what? Go on watching the webcasts?

[@mickymack1230]

Here's my favourite conspiracy theory: A-Sexuality .......... Microplastics! ..........Ya heard it here first folks!

[@zoot4358]

Should have kept that one to yourself and your fellow conspirators

[@mickymack1230]

@@zoot4358 🤣

[@louishiggins8881]

As mentioned, Tulsi Gabbard would be the smart choice. The Donald has the MAGA Republicans sown up, he needs to attract the more middle ground especially women - but then he isn't always smart 😂.

[@liaminwales]

There are laws already for pets, it's endless red tape. The cost to the taxpayer and time waisted is insane, it looks like a Zombie Company (well Zombie Gov)- 'companies that earn just enough money to continue operating and service debt but are unable to pay off their debt.'.

[@RichardDavies-pf4dd]

A smirking jokey interview concerning Trump.Nothing informative or constructive.I expect better from the Spectator.Or used to.

[@blingo4life]

Freddie is as ever terrifyingly reverential of Trump.

[@DieFlabbergast]

"terrifyingly"? wtf?

[@heavytreaty]

1:00:30 what culture? Bible cut ? What!!

[@andrewhawkes9486]

If Toby Young cannot recognise his own cat, then maybe he should consider another pet, or not even own one. Cats may look similar, but genuine cat owners recognise their own cat, irrespective of whether it's a common tabby or black and white. You don't need a microchip to know if it's your pet.

[@quentinnewark2745]

I have a British Standard, black, female. No socks or patches. Absolutely indistinguishable from other adult black female British Standards, of which there about four in the neighbourhood. I have found myself risking five years jail on numerous occasions, petting and inducing ‘my’ cat into the house.

[@andrewhawkes9486]

​@@quentinnewark2745​@quentinnewark2745 well I stand corrected. Toby didn't specify the precise markings of Trixie, did he? I've owned many cats and could never fail to recognise one. It's not just outward appearance, they have individual personalities too. Look it's a stupid bill, but as for 5 years in prison for enticing a cat, don't worry yourself too much. As the prisons are full already, knife crime etc goes virtually unpunished. Basically it's all nonsense.

[@marieparker3822]

Cats recognise their human staff.

[@Cassp0nk]

The other thing is they could have called the actual owner. Not just dumped the cat.

[@quentinnewark2745]

@@Cassp0nk I think he didn’t know who owned the kitten… but he could have kept it but leafleted/postered the area… yes cruel at the end, abandoning it to the wilds.

[@brianholmes3547]

The piece on Georgia was important showing how Russia casts its imperialist shadow around its periphery causing human misery. Of course all the effects of Russia’s empire building costs us all a fortune in increasing defence costs and reduces aid we can afford to foreign aid budgets etc. the west should step up its pressure on Russia to back off and change its ways.

[@KingLemonSucker]

58:03 they're into Digimon? 😂