Suella Braverman on two-tier policing, ECHR 'overreach', and why she would have voted for Trump

[@jdg9999]

It's amazing how utterly unconservative the conservative parliamentary actually is.

[@mr.mayhem7402]

Matthew Goodwin has lots of interesting things to say about this bit the problem is that they're loyal to each other as a class. Our political representatives refuse to poltically represent the people who voted for them.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

They have been the bulwark for hypa Liberalism, Consumerism and Globalisation.

[@DreamerBFC]

Brilliant interview. Keep fighting Suella. Your country needs more people like you.

[@ianfraser6161]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Home4Facts]

If the UK was full of people with the ethnic background of Suella, would it still be the UK?

[@tomn1568]

72.9% of Somali are in social housing. While being fully cognisant of this fact, the Tories gave more family reunification visas to Somali in the UK, than they gave to chemists, physicists and engineers from all other countries combined. A window into the incompetence.

[@billhill7749]

Did we actually get any Doctors, Dentists or engineers ? if so they surely do not get paid well in other countries that they have to come here by boat

[@m9017t]

Oh I thought we’d got all the doctors and engineers

[@gingerali]

@@tomn1568 Clearly following orders from the UN ( Africanisation of Europe)

[@Home4Facts]

Somali here. :) Those numbers look about right and I'm proud of it. They are probably on the low side tbh. We're here to extract resources. Nothing wrong with that, just ask your forefathers who did the same in our home countries. (And still do) Enjoy your minority status. I heard minorities are treated great here.

[@johnsherber]

What an amazing woman. A politician who I could trust. Honest about all the insanity in Britain. Keep up the good work.

[@snakeplissken5480]

she hasnt left the traitorous party though has she

She is brilliant. What a pity people of her stature aren't in power.

[@ianfraser6161]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Philiptanzer]

She was home sec as immigration went up, she is either useless or traitorous.

[@christinecarty636]

She was the only one who was trying to do the job that taxpayers was paying her she needs to come over to REFORM UK

[@Matt-t9m8h]

Were, it's "were". Not was, it's were, for christ sake. What a shock that you can't spell and you also like Reform, has there ever been a stronger negative correlation between a lack of literacy and a love of a political 'party' (company).

[@Robedon]

​@Matt-t9m8h The wrong word is a grammer issue, not a spelling issue. What a shock that your ideological bias makes you think your memory intelligence is superior to the original commenter's IQ intelligence...😂

[@peterjermey7235]

She did nothing

[@littlecatfeet9064]

Let’s try it your way then. She were the only one trying to do job. She wants inviting to Reform, innit? Doesn’t sound better. Cancelled because some mandem wanna stop my riddim.

[@crocodilebelfast]

no she was not, listen to what she said, she could not even get a meeting with sunak, at that point she should have gone to the public with what was actually going on and let the public decide.

[@Ayeright-q1r]

Suella the country needs people like you thanks for speaking out Labour and Conservative are now both the same coin.. Join reform

[@JACB006]

HEAR HEAR

[@ianfraser6161]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jamesthenabignumber]

Suella is so evidently brilliant. An intelligent, informed and brave woman. No wonder she's been pushed to the periphery by the political hacks.

[@rosalee1624]

100 percent agree. Principled and really wanted to make a change for the benefit of the electorate. Fell in deaf ears. Shame on the Tories.

[@ianfraser6161]

Braverman is a moron.

[@Philiptanzer]

No, she was home sec and made immigration go up. I am so done with this "I was in charge and the opposite of what I want happened" crap, she either is lying about what she wants or is useless and should never have been a minister.

[@Scotmend]

What are you on about? She oversaw the highest period of rampant immigration, failed to address it, made things worse, and is all talk with no action-a complete loser.

[@ianelliott8224]

One of the main reason the Tories have got no chance is the way the way they sideline their best people like Suella.

[@chinaman1]

I think BBC will misquote her and say she's anti-human rights.

[@Dropthesoapto]

No one cares about what BBC vomit anymore.

[@normsky5504]

Suella was either in the wrong party, or in the right party with the wrong people. She was fighting on her own.

[@EnquiringMinds-vx8gb]

She’s in it for herself. Otherwise how do you explain staying in a party that doesn’t align with your core beliefs? And how many illegals did she let in?

[@monkeh86]

@@EnquiringMinds-vx8gb I would say she's considering defecting, that's why she didn't take a position in the shadow cabinet, so she can easily leave if Reform look like they're in with a chance. She 'let in' illegals because Sunak did not agree with leaving the ECHR which is really the only guaranteed way to stop them, she couldn't take the UK out of the ECHR on her own.

[@kevincoade1992]

She explains things very clearly. A woman of obvious integrity, it's a huge shame she is not Tory leader.

[@JACB006]

HEAR HEAR

[@germansheparddog1]

Suella spoke sense when she was in the cabinet. She is not far right she is a true conservative

[@999RAYMONDO]

Excellent interview - a great pity Suella hasn't left the Tories to join REFORM

[@iconicon5642]

Spot on about the ECHR as with all those wretched unaccountable supra-national bureaucracies.

[@ALesserMagistr8-wq6ej]

Wow! She's brilliant

[@macfaichen2658]

Love Suella… truly a British lady…

[@slypork5030]

I never had a problem with Suella, she's an actual "Conservative."

[@macfaichen2658]

More than kemi

[@tman8897]

No illegal migrants should be allowed public funded legal services. The fact that such things exist to begin with is ridiculous

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

I'm a big fan of Braverman. I would vote for her or Jenrick but apart from them I would never vote Tory again.

[@monkeh86]

Jenrick is a pretender I'm afraid, he just jumped on the bandwagon since he knows the public now are definitely against illegal immigration (took him long enough to figure it out). You know Rishi used Jenrick to be Suella's 'minder' when she was home secretary because Jenrick was seen as a more moderate person right? Suella kept true to her beliefs the whole time and has never wavered from them or flip flopped like Jenrick has.

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

@monkeh86 I'm sure what you're saying happened is correct, however I do believe he's a convert. I think he now believes in dealing with illegal immigration. I'm not sure what his view of legal migration is though.

[@andys1333]

Sweden has achieved net zero migration.... Whilst still in the EU.... Whilst still a member of the ECHR! Makes you think....

[@janetshemaryahu5529]

Suella was a barrister. She respects anything labelled “law”, passed by any body whatsoever, too much. Suella was a member of the duly-elected government of a sovereign nation. Just say, “We don’t recognize that law” for God’s sake, and deport!!

[@annkristinbarnes4596]

That is news to me living in Sweden., There has been around a hundred thousand non european migrants arriving every year on family unification visas for decades. Swedens (official) population of 10.6 million is growing rapidly.

[@jacobrivers5728]

Yet those out-of-touch (121) Tory MPs didn’t even allow Suella to participate in the recent Tory leadership contest. We, the electorate, have a duty to this country, which means never ever voting for the Conservative Party again. Labour must be replaced by Reform at the 2029 general election.

[@mikegray8776]

I wish there were more politicians like Suella Braverman. Bright, sharp, committed, and socially conscious. Can’t help but feel she is in the wrong party, under the wrong leader.

[@TonyHills-c2d]

Boris increased immigration don't forget. Suella is a Conservative, that's why she never got near being Tory leader. Join Reform Suella.

[@VonRyansExpress-v3r]

Please join Reform Suella

[@auntieromainuk]

@@VonRyansExpress-v3r right wing tortes reform ukip have got to come to an accommodation with each other to form a fight wing coalition other wise we could get another labour government country before ego it’s to important the soul of this country is at stake

[@VonRyansExpress-v3r]

@auntieromainuk yes, we are at a tipping point in our country's history - no doubt about that . . .

[@Pandamama29]

hang on hang on - at 5.03 Suella says she couldn't get a meeting with the PM for over a year... what!! So for a full year the PM was not bothered about seeing the home secretary about anything?? Not a sausage!! Not even for 2 minutes after a cabinet meeting just to ask "how are we on the home front?". Disgraceful.

[@jongenboren]

Suella and Priti need to join REFORM

[@lawsonium]

We don't need to leave the ECHR to close our borders (to legal AND illegal). Sweden hasn't and they have achieved nought, zero net migration in the past few months. It requires a government and a PM with a spine.

[@janetshemaryahu5529]

Boom.

[@annkristinbarnes4596]

I am very surprised to hear this, living in Sweden. There has been a hundred thousand non european migrants arriving every year on family related visas for many years - even under the current PM - allthough the number of asylum seekers is lower.

[@Marktb363]

I'm with Suella 👍

[@Oxo380]

Suella join up with Lee Anderson and reform 🙏🙏🙏

[@ianfraser6161]

The hard-of-thinking support the likes of Braverman.

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

I'm genuinely impressed, I'm not somebody who has strong opinions on migration but she came off really well here in articulating her argument. They really ought to have let her speak more while in government

[@NorfolkSceptic]

Braverman did what she could in an un-conservative party.

[@randomtravel1489]

Very informative and intelligent discussion.

[@mindfulmw]

Stop funding any immigration lawyer who uses the ECHR on the public purse, stop the gravy train of people abusing the legal system to prevent deportation of illegal immigrants. The whole legal basis needs to be reset in the UK, so I agree with Kemi that the problem is in the system as well as the ECHR.

[@davidbarry6900]

Just curious why the UK government can't simply cut the funding of any bodies found to be sponsoring spurious or false claims (legal cases) of refugee status? Or assign costs of dealing with any such cases to the lawyers involved in bringing the case forward?

[@krisp4889]

My Guess would be the "who decides" argument__ similar to the one used in free speech but used in this case to provide an endless stream of paying customers.

[@gaz2251]

George Soros has the money to fund them himself

[@crocodilebelfast]

The human rights act that blair bought into the country on top of the ECHR means that people can challenge the govt decisions if they feel it affects their human rights which is such a grey area and is why blair enacted this law as it assisted his wife who was one of the main immigration lawyers in the country at the time and made her a fortune along with others. Two tier was also one. It is some thing the tories said they would remove so they could get the numbers down to the 10's of thousands but instead went the other way.

[@cindyharrison4191]

She should be the next PM, She at least speaks sense.

[@freyagoldilocks]

She should be the Conservative Party Leader!

[@davidyoung8683]

One the few politicians I would take serious and listen to, I wish her every success .

[@leannekelly2033]

I love Suella, but now I remember why we wanted Tories out so vote Reform at every chance you can. 🩵🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧

[@knockedoutloaded]

Simon Webb at History Debunked explains what Sweden has managed to do about immigration in a matter of months

[@annkristinbarnes4596]

Thanks, that is certainly news to me living in Sweden!

[@rosalee1624]

Courageous and priincipled MP who really wanted to make a change - for the benefit of the electorate and country. Fell in deaf ears. Shame on the Tories.

[@vizveebee]

She is so amazing. So calm and clear, but so misused in the flippin Tory party

[@snakeplissken5480]

so why are you still in that party suella

[@GailPlatt]

In an era when politicians with intelligence and integrity are scarcer than hens teeth Suella stands out and I have hope that there may actually be a way out of the morass the country is in.

[@RichardEnglander]

Tories had 14 years to undo Blair...

[@mogznwaz]

Suella ❤

[@RichardEnglander]

7:40 she's outlining why all the arrivals need to go, system corruption at every level = outputs cannot be trusted. Time to go home.

[@canopej]

She is the only one who can save the Conservative Party. She is honest and admit when mistakes were made. Please keep fighting.

[@liampalmer5662]

Well described - a will problem not a skill problem. Cut the ties, simplify the problem, revert to what was normal practice until only a few years ago

[@KimThomas-vp4vm]

Cut legal aid for foreign nationals and they won't be able to find lawyers to defend them. British people can't get legal aid for many legal issues, but foreign nationals can and it costs us millions every year.

[@winstonschwarz1636]

I've a had a crush on Suella for many years but this new hair do makes her look absolutely sensational!

[@KimThomas-vp4vm]

Suella join Reform.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Remigration

[@stevedawson3082]

Thank you. The Conservatives must include leaving the ECHR in their next manifesto or they really will be history.

[@EnquiringMinds-vx8gb]

Why so they can lie to you again?

[@nickgood8166]

Yes, but this has been obvious for north of a decade. The wokist Tory party did foxtrot alpha!

[@doctorbritain9632]

Cross the floor to Reform Suella.

[@Aquila-sz8pl]

Join Reform Suella. If you value what say and believe work with people who are saying the same.

[@newworldforward1842]

Join Reform!!

[@Itskilo]

Never forget the UK saw record immigration levels while she was Home Secretary for 14 months

[@MrMarmalizer]

She’s spot on! 👏🏻

[@MichaelPickles]

She made the mistake of saying it was a promise politicians always break promises. They should make it a contract with a penalty

[@zorot3876]

She knows we have to leave the ECHR, I know it, you probably know it, but most of the idiots in our Parliament haven't a clue.

[@michaelogrady1002]

The ECHR is part of the Good Friday Agreement of which both the British and Irish governments are co guarantors. Any changes to the Good Friday Agreement will require the agreement of the parties in Northern Ireland and the Irish Government.

[@Dropthesoapto]

If I were British I would vote for this woman!

[@flipflopfrog602]

Leaving the ECHR would mean we all have less rights. The right to not be tortured for example, my understanding is that the ECHR provides many us with some of our most important and basic human rights.

[@chester6343]

It is just so utterly frustrating

[@MaverickSeventySeven]

Is it not an absolute insult to the intelligence, humanity, and long history in England over its dealings both nationally and internationally on human rights that have been acknowledged at some time as the finest and most substantive in the World at some time, to be "beholden" to the ECHR!!!???

[@jdg9999]

What do you mean "publicly funded"? lawyers for illegal migrants? Remove the funding then.

[@RichardEnglander]

3:55 departments all captured by Wokies. Afuera!!

[@duncanfindlay3227]

I think Suella Braverman would better spend her time and talents talking to policy makers in the new Trump administration.particularly in relation to the overreach of international law.The UK is a lost cause for the foreseeable future.

[@t0mhd572]

I like Stella but she needs to go to reform

[@DTogo3774]

Talk of what is "needed" by people who were the government as though they're students in a dorm room is beyond pathetic.

[@simonrobinson1566]

Shame Kemi hasn't seen fit to include Suella in the shadow cabinet. The PCP isn't overburdened with talent such that it can afford to leave a competent spokesperson on the bench. Not a great look.

[@freyagoldilocks]

Make benefits claimants do community/infrastructure to get their welfare!

[@EnquiringMinds-vx8gb]

Ironically, the only chance of her achieving that is to join Reform; Which she won't do. She puts her cushy tory position over her principles and the country. As all Tories do. That's why the party is so successful and so hated by its voters. Suella let in more illegal immigrants than anyone in modern British history. They blame the party and not her but she won’t leave and do the right thing. Talk about fooling yourselves.

[@kennethslade8468]

Suella Braverman is wasting her time in the Tory Party. They will never. allow her to be anything more than a back bencher, which is a huge waste of talent and intelligence.

[@SigmaJAD]

Any election I can vote for her, she gets my vote

[@columbus7950]

This is the sort of “reasoning “ that stops me voting Tory.

[@m9017t]

We Reform UK to end this utter nonsense.

[@user-vm9jv4lq2t]

Sack the lawyers

[@assassinsunite3434]

Trump 24 🇺🇲

[@forsdykemontague1017]

I wholeheartedly agreed with her until Labour got power, it’s opened my eyes to the protection we need from our own Governments 😂

[@SkyTechLover]

Suela we need you back.

[@trevaudio]

You can’t leave the ECHR Braverman 😊

[@iconicon5642]

I see Gove hasn't got the guts to front up to her.

[@Philiptanzer]

"That would be bad for growth" SHOW ME THE FUCKING GROWTH!!! I have never been so angry. She was home sec and she speaks like this just happened. "The car just went into reverse" YOU WERE DRIVING!! I'm going to have an aneurysm..

[@aminaz1778]

Shells brilliant legal mind

[@jdg9999]

Even the interviewer is pro ECHR, what a joke.

[@Theclashcast]

Suella, you must leave the Conservative Party, they are cooked, there is no coming back, so many people will NEVER trust them again. I beg you please PLEASE join reform or an alternative new party.

[@1234Cheesus]

What actually happens if we ignore the ECHR?

[@iconicon5642]

Why is it OK to leech of other nation's talent? Don't those nations need it?

[@aa-im8qo]

It's a shame you aren't Home Secretary so you can change all this, Suella. Oh wait.... Not listening anymore, Tories. Reform.

[@-DC-]

Wake me up when the Conservative Party remember they are meant to be Conservative and have grown some nutz to enact some of the BS they love to talk about.

[@nssportstv7231]

Our very own Tulsi Gabbard

[@RichardEnglander]

33:30 all the protected characteristics need scrapping. They are asymmetrical in design and application. Lady Justice is supposed to be blind.

[@mikegray8776]

Spectator: Do you feel this interviewer’s heart is in his job? Seems like a man who has 25 minutes to catch the last train home. No empathy, no engagement, no professionalism.

[@hezkyden]

@10m 56s. Ms Braverman mentions the 'unintended consequences' of a piece of Tory legislation to combat 'modern slavery'. She says that it arose out of 'compassion' for victims of it. Ms Braverman is a qualified barrister, a former Attorney General (& Home Secretary). Why wasn't that Bill thought through properly by her & by MPs? There might not be any 'unintended consequences' of legislation if MPs did the job they are paid to do well enough.

[@r1c4ard]

@3:30 hits the nail in the head: immigration is used as a quick fix for GDP, because GDP per capita still isn't above what it was in 2007. But the major political parties simply don't discuss this with the public while they're campaigning.

[@RichardEnglander]

26:05 notice how there are NEVER pronatalist policies for natives?

[@hughmuir3063]

There should have been quotas or caps on numbers. Such a simple change to cut the numbers immediately.

[@dad901]

All of our Politicians, our government need to ask themselves what do they expect this Country is going to look like and be like for home people, we are tols the impact of AI will have an impact, we pay so many to make no contributio. Courage and leadership.

[@Newsopathy-gf2ug]

What the heck is the moustache thing about? Is STALIN back in fashion?!!!

[@pault1289]

That was disappointing. The non-Crime Hate Incident legislation was passed by Conservatives, why wasn't it dealt with and amended while they were still in office? There was hardly any legislation passed or amended during Rishi's leadership. And I'm really not sure saying 'I'd vote for Trump' will earn much support or respect - he remains deeply unpopular in the UK (across all parties) and is likely to become more so once in office and causing issues with free trade. I don't understand why students were included in the immigration figures, they aren't here as immigrants, they are here to study and then leave. Fair enough if they stay on after, then add them. As for trying to amend UN treaties that just sounds deeply unserious.

[@suereeves5994]

if you don't want to lower it, why promise?