‘She has zero credibility’ - is Rachel Reeves making bigger mistakes than Liz Truss?

[@andrewhotston983]

Labour's biggest problem is Labour - they are utterly inept. They seem genuinely unable to foresee the consequences of their policies, which is very serious for the country.

[@richjmb5522]

@@andrewhotston983 Everything is a slippery slope with labour, a destructive slippery slope for everyone

[@banedon8087]

Labour have always been bad with money. Add that to the insanity of what the Tories did, the inability to get back to where we were prior to 2008 GP-wise and the covid-mega spend/money-print and it's a bloody distaster.

[@ukbloke28]

you people are so ignorant. you can't run an economy on thin air, you speculate to accumulate. you appear to believe the ridiculous lie that the economy is like a household budget. it isnt/

[@TobiasStarling]

Still better than the tories

[@andrewhotston983]

@@TobiasStarling The evidence says otherwise. And it's a pretty low bar.

[@tizerrazor1956]

6 months in and Labour's Rachel from accounts has tanked the economy with more to come. We cannot survive 5 years of this incompetence.

[@puma21puma21]

Still blamin Truss when she was in power for 2 mins? The crash happened because her budget didn't line up with what the WEF wants.

[@TomTomicMic]

She wanted to borrow 200 billion to pay energy bills without a pay back plan verified by the OBR, the market said no, the end!?!

[@lindonpeasley2469]

She needed to borrow to cover tax reductions, but inflation was high. And getting inflation under control was the priority, so the Bank Of England righty put a stop to it. Right idea from Liz, wrong timing. Then Rishi came in with inflation reduction plan. Now we just have wrong from Labour, but to be expected. At least Liz was going for growth.

[@puma21puma21]

@@TomTomicMic Makes more sense than scrapping our farmlands for windfarms and solar pannels which has raised the cost of energy and made it more unreliable, maybe they should have invested in nuclear which Clegg said it would take 5 years so it's pointless to do.

[@causevestnetwork7215]

@@TomTomicMic That didn't crash the economy bro :) the BOE report clearly owned up that it was them.

[@ukbloke28]

the crash happened because it was idiotic. but hey, keep believing your loony wef conspiracies.

[@johnwatkins677]

Kevin Gillett, now retired, who was Director of Banking at Lloyd's HBOS wrote on social media recently. 'In 2009 Rachel Reeves was 3 levels below me. She was a Complaints Support Manager NOT an Economist. She nearly got sacked due to an expenses scandal when Managers were found to have been signing off each others expenses. She then had lots of doctor and dental appointments and so was followed. It turned out she was doing Labour Party business. When confronted, she resigned'. Mr Gillett asked for this to be shared with as many people as possible.

[@FraserBailey-jm5yz]

There is more chance of me playing for Liverpool than there is of Labour doing anything to tackle the national debt or deficit.

[@FreaksSpeaks]

Try Mancity, they have a few vacancies. 😂

[@karlarcher8773]

We've been in stagnation since 2008

[@andrewhotston983]

Only mass immigration has created the feeble growth in GDP. Without immigration we would have been in recession for years.

[@joerogers4510]

True, we're still living with Gordon Brown's mistakes

[@FreaksSpeaks]

We were,now.down hill

[@paultweedley2026]

Correct, basically been flat lining last 20 years because of inept governance, labour and unexpectedly also conservative!

[@adtastic1533]

You been in stagnation since 1945 other than a brief respite under Thatcher. Everybody knows what to do but the British public are addicted to free everything and let the Govt pay for it.

[@dobs862]

8 billion pounds for migrant hotels alone last year .

[@stevenfarrall3942]

WE have far too much government and most of it has failed.

[@TonyHills-c2d]

When I was a Tory member, I voted for Truss. She didn't explain her budget BUT "they" wanted a WEF puppet. Now they've got one. Tories are finished for me.

[@thegatekeeper2901]

Remember she went to the World Bank for endorsement of some sort….

[@swarming1092]

I think she was removed because she crashed the economy like one week into becoming PM

[@paulpenfold2352]

What are you talking about?

[@1ForTheShieldz]

Liz had some great plans. Scrap ir35 tax to get people working and investing in the country. Labour are taxing and borrowing and giving it away to foreign countries. Utter mess.

[@adtastic1533]

She wanted to cut taxes while massively increasing spending. It was dumb as fuck just like everything else she did in politics.

[@toadman5184]

Truss attempted to be an actual Conservative, so the Uniparty crushed her.

[@simony2801]

No, she was a laughing stock who didn’t know what she was doing so the tories binned her.

[@toadman5184]

@@simony2801 She attempted to step out of line with the globalist agenda and was made a laughing stock for it. The tory membership voted her in, the globalists in the party pushed her out and installed their WEF puppet.

[@andyansell9000]

@@simony2801 Gosh! yet another FOOL commenting on what they clearly DON'T understand!!!

[@simony2801]

@@andyansell9000 whatever nonsense you want to believe.

[@mw01908]

She did apart from underwriting energy bills forever, with no limit, which is a very socialist policy, no wonder it crashed the markets. She would also have given unlimited money to Ukraines war on Russia forever, again something most people disagree with, and they never ask us about

[@Knifeys]

Rachel from accounts completetly ignored the the Laffer curve

[@richierich7609]

The Laffer Curve is crackpot nonsense.

[@mosheridan7016]

Bond crisis in the uk yesterday not surprising

[@mosheridan7016]

Cos we had a black hole says the robot

[@mfmcintyre]

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[@amytuttle1621]

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[@theralphster8492]

A small, island country who needs to rely on building more and more houses for it's economy, what could possibly go wrong.

[@lloydbooth-w1j]

You forgot constant immigration to boost GDP according to the civil service.

[@Chickenlipped]

China

[@mattjackson777]

@@theralphster8492 the UK housing market became a ponzy scheme in the early 2000’s and ultra low rates and reckless lending kept the scheme going for a very long time. We have tonnes of debt building like a ticking time bomb and a weak economy because working people are paying way over the odds to get a roof over their heads.

[@andrewhotston983]

The only surprise in this interview is that it took nineteen minutes before the word 'doomloop' was used. Seriously, what is the point of having an Office Of Budget Responsibility when the Chancellor introduces policies that simultaneously depend on economic growth and suppress economic growth? Surely a loud klaxon should have been sounding in the OBR for the last four months?

[@georgehetty7857]

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[@andrewhotston983]

@@georgehetty7857 Clearly. Shame the markets won't agree.

[@gymuscles]

Yes, isn't it ironic that the national debt has risen threefold since an 'Office of Budget Responsibility' was established

[@ArchimedeanDiscoveries]

The government makes mistakes and the common people pay.

[@petermach8635]

Just wait until businesses start laying off staff, both because of the National Insurance increases and because of economic slowdown ....... the reduced tax-take and increased benefits costs will give us a real helter-skelter ride.

[@jaaguitar]

The Starkey Talks video on why Labour's economic plans are doomed is a must-watch.

[@BulletProofBrain]

Every migrant entering the country is a liability and adds to the debt burden…perhaps we need to get off the couch instead of having our food delivered by migrants on scooters.

[@thegatekeeper2901]

It’s blindingly obvious now! She has nothing intelligent to say at the moment.

[@FreaksSpeaks]

Of ever?

[@francisravenscroft-dw6gi]

Before this Labour Government gives more funds to the NHS, it should aduit how much is being spent of the massive 'management' of the organization. Compare that the private sector health providers and then remove CEO s of all NHS trusts that can not demonstrate improvements in front line services. Education budgets. How much is spent on CEOs of 'education trusts' that neither teach nor demonstrate any value for the improvement of learning outcomes for children. This is called cost/benefit Chancellor Reeves.

[@stephfoxwell4620]

Raising Employer's Nics was a massive mistake.

[@markdownton3185]

It's not a mistake for the Commies

[@ianrobinson6788]

Too many people being paid too much for doing too little…….

[@1ForTheShieldz]

Liz had great plans, scrap ir35!!!

[@garymitchell5899]

13:16 FYI it's not Stagnation it's Stagflation. Come on

[@swarming1092]

Well that was both deeply insightful and profoundly distressing. Thanks, Kate. 😭

[@schrodingerscat1863]

Truss was at least borrowing in an attempt to create the best conditions for growth, many economists in hindsight suggest it would have actually have been a net benefit in the medium term if it had been done. However what we see from this chancellor is such backwards thinking, she says she wants growth and at the same time adds £40bn to the overall tax burden which isn't even fully implemented yet and is already causing economic contraction.

[@biglongun]

The adults are back in the room…problem is they’re all on PCP

[@MRWKFClark]

That would be better than the current government.

[@aficio698]

Adults? No. The vegetables are in charge.

[@clewis4744]

​@@aficio698You have reminded me of spitting image. "And the vegetables?". "They will have what I'm having". People are missing Maggie Thatcher now.

[@ukscooby653]

@biglongun that made me laugh so much! 🤣

[@garymitchell5899]

3:25 FYI interest payments are not reducing the debt. Come on.

[@SteveJones-gz4vd]

Damn right lol

[@richardplane2155]

Interest rates are about to spiral out of control.

[@FreaksSpeaks]

Hope so, house price crash to reset everything.

[@jablot5054]

Great, as long as that leads to better rates for savings and lower house prices.

[@md-mcintyre]

Truss was borrowing to grow, that's a huge difference. Labour are borrowing to pay for crazy schemes , paying off the unions and borrowing to then give billions overseas. None of the borrowing by Labour is for proper economic growth.

[@MP-mr8rj]

The markets know that Labour are going to destroy the UK economy, capital is leaving! 😢 Buckle up!

[@perikleshistory]

Worse mistakes. Rachel has increased the tax burden and public spending. Strangling growth and raising the deficit. At least Truss's budget was progrowth and would have given people more money in their pockets!

[@Rex-G8UBJ]

If Liz had gone at it more slowly she would have been okay.. Rachel's increase is slower but deeper.. and will be far more damaging.. I can see the IMF arriving to 'help us out' soon😮

[@mosheridan7016]

Uk is finished with these commies it's back to the 70s

[@andyansell9000]

Truss's budget was actually very much Conservative, more so than any Tory leader since Thatcher! It was the DELIVERY was was bad judgement and NOT the actual POLICIES!

[@HudsonLighting]

I don't ever get the talk of these figures about inflation below 3% etc, I can tell you that our food costs have increased some 40% over the last two years, electricity still much much higher than it was, and from a business perspective, business has been done hugely, we let go half of our work force recently. Not sure where the figures come from as my bank balance reflects completely differently

[@markdownton3185]

The pound is tanking like all fiat currencies always do. Inflation is higher than stated and as such purchasing power is falling. Brown sold the gold so we're basically screwed

[@mw01908]

Reeves budget has caused much bigger probs than Truss

[@MZig-rw7su]

We've had inept government for so long now deliberately going against the Democratic wishes of the voters that Collapse is inevitable.

[@joerogers4510]

Wow, anyone would think that Rachel Reeves is completely clueless about economics! Maybe she should have stuck to customer services...

[@mosheridan7016]

Amazing she is still even Chancellor so definitely needs to resign now along with the rest of the Labour front bench.

[@rodpanhard]

Liz Truss never relly made mistakes, that was a mouse click orchestrated crisis to get her out and Rishi in.

[@johnnagle7702]

Why would you buy a gilt or bond at these rates.They should be much higher to be compensated for the true level of price increases

[@UtubeRfarlefty]

Reeves makes Truss look like a genius. Is there nobody with an IQ over 40 in the Uniparty?

[@NorfolkSceptic]

Thanks Julian, for mentioning the LDI time bomb, something that the BoE didn't tell Liz Truss about.

[@martinstephens4633]

Reeves lost more than 30B??? Haven't picked up on that yet. The idiocy of the bias in this "headline" is comparable to the Guardian.

[@cyndy2484]

I was behind liz, look where we are now 🤷‍♀️

[@mosheridan7016]

Liz was ok media needs to stop repeating the lies about her.

[@alanevans9604]

Join Reform 🇬🇧

[@jablot5054]

Why ? They have no economic policies.

[@alanevans9604]

@jablot5054 probably better than Labours disasterous ideas. Our country needs to drain the swamp.

[@SimonParkes-ud4jn]

Liz Truss and Kwazi Kwateng were trying to promote growth in the UK economy by maintaining government spending and reducing taxes. Could it have worked? Well the previous and current governments have maintained spending whilst increasing taxes and that has stalled the economy - continuing the decade plus period of near zero growth in the UK. It’s growth we need - Truss and Kwateng were right on that and maybe they were on the right lines with the mini-budget. What really derailed it was the LDI problem - nobody had really picked that up and that is what forced the changes. Absent that, I tend to think we need something to boost the economy and promote growth - tax cuts probably ought to be part of that strategy.

[@Potato-ru8nh]

as a holder of government bonds this doesn't increase my interest as he suggests, I've lost capital value and have the same yield I bought in at. I'd need to make a new investment to get a higher yield.

[@LurchLures]

Serious question. Bonds are loans, and money is work tokens. So for a loan to make a real profit , not a nominal one from money printing, gthen the loan has to be invested and people have to work harder or more effectively than they would have without the loan to pay you interest. How is the UK government going to invest the money and who is going to work harder or more efficiently to pay the interest?

[@Chiefmismaker]

"To what extent is growth the key problem?...". !!!!

[@chickennugget3362]

Love Kate 😍

[@chieftandriver703]

Poor old Liz Screwed by the establishment. And not in a good way

[@richardplane2155]

😂

[@LeeGould-b6w]

Proof they are captured by the public sector whose interest is primarily in themselves. Any A level economics student could see the budget would impede growth

[@colbr6733]

It remains far more attractive to invest overseas, along with UK market confidence declining and more painful measures expected from the government, it's not hard to see what's going on.

[@stevebreedon62]

If you keep blaming Truss why aren't you blaming Starmer rather than Reeves

[@hazchemel]

When we say, most people don't want to cut spending, we mean the civil service and the political parties.

[@iconicon5642]

Can't governments cut spending? You know throwing money can be reduced?

[@johnwade1095]

If this 'smear Truss by association' is due to the influence of the dreadful Gove, I will cancel my subscription.

[@johnnagle7702]

The fuse was lit on the 15th August 1971

[@mosheridan7016]

Stop knocking Trump he is 10 times better even on his worst day than these liebor commies.

[@Worldturnedupsidedown]

YES.But the public are clueless

[@johnnagle7702]

@@Worldturnedupsidedown yes brainwashed

[@markdownton3185]

Exactly. Ditch the toilet paper!

[@John-c4r1o]

Rachel is nothing more than a team leader in a call centre. She must have had bad credentials to fall from the BOE to such a position...😂

[@bigbarry8343]

6:30 as for liability driven investments, is it not that government is now bailing out PE giving them access to our private pensions?

[@richardplane2155]

Ive said it again and again . There was NOTHING WRONG AT ALL WITH THE LT budget . That was our last chance . But the establishment conspired to scupper it . Including a load of so callled pension fund managers who were caught with the wrong overleveraged positions who should have known better .

[@johnwalker91]

Nothing on energy?

[@colinmacdonald5732]

We don't use so much energy... cynics like myself might attribute this "efficiency" to the rise of bullshit jobs, a penpusher might be earning 30K, works mainly from home with a laptop, energy consumption no higher than a welfare queen on the Sick. Then you've got people who do real stuff, make things, they actually need energy to do their job. Our economy has switched more and more to bullshittery, the GNP might look good but our real tangible living standards keep dropping year on year.

[@graemeshort1928]

Why is our useless Chancellor RR still in Post? as her Budget has Failed as slammed by B of E and OECD? Get her GONE and Soon! Find a real economist! Support the OAP’S, WASPI's and the FARMERS. STUCK FARMER

[@markdownton3185]

Rachel Reeves - Chancer of the Exchequer

[@fluffy-puffy-puppy]

The only way is to decrease government spending. Taxes are already so high that we are on the wrong side of the Laffer curve. I.e. Even higher tax rates will only reduce tax revenue, as companies leave, and people choose to work even less as they are no longer sufficiently compensated net of taxes

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[@ghazanferfazli7335]

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[@BnazerriKhiid]

Sure, the investment-advisor that guides me is..

[@BnazerriKhiid]

Elizabeth stark

[@AndrewMikel-js7qb]

Same, I met Elizabeth stark last year for the first time at a conference in Wilshire, after then my Life has changed for good.God bless Elizabeth stark

[@KhiidZerri]

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[@duncanfindlay3227]

Maybe naked greed is what is responsible for the increased bond yields. COVID saw the largest transfer in wealth to the financial elite in history, my intuition is that the interest in bond yields will profit exactly the same institutions and individuals.

[@brad9205]

2:58 something else? Hmmm

[@Brommear]

14:30 "... temporary uptick in inflation..." Is that similar to transitory inflation? Why is that hardly comforting?

[@johnnagle7702]

Crack up boom more realistic

[@MichaelFriday-w2n]

You look at the intellectual depth of the Labour front bench and it's very shallow. You then look at the same on His Majesty's opposition and you see Chris Philps. We are in real trouble.

[@georgeallcorn6302]

Of course we don't quite have manufacturing , " optimistic " think the Land and Kondratieve cycles , the Landcycle will land this year , 2025.

[@georgeallcorn6302]

According to Robert Beckman , there is an " interest rate cycle " interest rates move in parallel with inflation ,

[@Retrogamer71]

Comparing the bond rates in USA is nonsense as being a global phenomenon. The two countries have more State debt to GDP than the rest of the world. More than 100% of the whole GDP of the country.

[@hughn]

The NHS is currently choked with people suffering from 'flu. I wonder if they are people who can't heat their homes this winter? I'd love to know how much extra is going out in all the applications for Pension Credit that were submitted after the Winter Fuel Payment was stopped. She didn't seem to realise that the public sector has to pay the increase in NI, too - sucking more out of the budgets of the Police, the NHS, etc.,

[@colinmacdonald5732]

Tsskk... we're in a Climate Emergency and Global Heating means no domestic heating required!

[@georgeallcorn6302]

Government bonds were yielding 13 or even 15%, at a point in the eighties , if correct .

[@benjaminmarks2662]

Normally I like the Spectator's reporting but the first 5 mins or so explanation of this was just totally incorrect. Change in bond yields only effect new debt issues not existing debt. The previous 10-years that were issued at a lower rate will not see an increase in the interest payment (although there value falls because you can now get 4.8% on new debt issued). The problem is going forward when the government needs to borrow it will pay more interest on this debt, primarily because it seems more risky to get a repayment as our debt load increases. The key to fixing this issue is to cut spending, not taxes. We could start with not giving 10k a year to all over 67s, if you are a millionaire (25% of pensioners are) you should not be getting money from the government.

[@johnkitching2248]

The Tories tried tax cuts & public spending cuts from 2010. That was a hopeless failure.

[@FreaksSpeaks]

And it got worse now.

[@johnkitching2248]

@ You must think you can build Rome in a day.

[@edmond5713]

UK 10Y and 30Y bond yields are going higher while the GBP is weakening. 😬

[@UBF100]

I thought gilts have fixed coupons. The yield just reflects a change in market price ?

[@fluffy-puffy-puppy]

@UBF100 A government in deficit means new gilts have to be constantly issued. These new gilts will be issued at yields with the higher current market rates for investors to care to purchase them, so increasing current borrowing cost.

[@billybunter5575]

same labour same borrowing same negatives policys same depressive outlook for the uk same old party no ideas no common scence no way out another election coming soon folks.

[@pobishop235]

I don't expect that Labour will do anything that will affect growth positively; quite the opposite. And don't underestimate the corrosive effect of falling GDP per person due to a stagnant economy and mass immigration.

[@mccanncollection]

they're a disaster, a titanic disaster

[@williamsnowden8186]

Liberal luvvie Katie is not impressed by Liz Truss... what a surprise.

[@thutomoof]

Tax = penury for all.

[@nickgood8166]

That geezer's wallpaper is hectic!

[@Pod6168]

My prediction: Rachel from Accounts is going to increase VAT 250 bps thinking that will “raise revenue,” which will cause a severe, consumer-driven recession and significant decline in aggregate tax revenue, leading to a severe economic crisis in the UK. I’m massively short Gilts and Sterling.

[@mattjackson777]

Weaker pound means higher import costs, which leads to higher prices and then rising inflation. Base rate won’t be cut for a while. House prices will continue to fall (they were falling in the November results and December likely the same).

[@dward5945]

I don’t know. Housing is unaffordable for most people - but not all. There is still too much demand and not enough supply. The rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer and the whole country will be worse off.

[@proffpuff]

Twice a year the OBR look at the bank account that should be daily

[@spiritualdeath101]

We're going down 70s style. This will provide political energy for change but only after a lot of grief. I don't suppose Labour or Conservative will survive. What takes their place is hard to see, reform is too reactionary, the SDP is less hard-edged. UK media is a big part of the problem - oppressing debate and brokering dishonest conversations. You are beginning to see some free thinking people on youtube channels but they are disparate & distrustful of the establishment. If they somehow coalesced into a 'UK future' channel - you may find some kind of future vision for the UK which had meaning. The collapse of trust in government and governance is obvious to everyone. When law and order breaks down (which it is beginning to at the margin) a whole cohort of leaders will be desperately required. They are out there.

[@alisonbrown1841]

12 billion cost of next yr chanel migrants black hole yr increase before income made

[@mosheridan7016]

What investment in the uk they are just wasting money

[@ukscooby653]

Truss/Kwarteng sprinting and dribbling the ball all the way down the pitch... Unfortunately Starmer/Reeves got the home goal. But good ol' Kwart/Lizz started that ball rolling. They both haven't done our economy any good, they were both thinking along party politics, rather than what we need as a country. I like Reeves, but I've been underwhelmed by her so far. If I were you SirK, I'd be looking at a replacement. The biggest problem with party politics is PARTY POLITICS! (this applies to all) We definitely need to get rid of the whips, the MPs are sent there to represent US! (Oh and I'm really grateful for my 1.5% increase in disability benefit this year 🙄... I'll be able to buy a pint of milk every week, but don't fret, there's now PLENTY of space in my fridge!!!) I'm thinking of relocating to HMP Styal ...I hear they get three meals per day there. And just for those of you thinking that I'm a scrounger and should be grateful, I worked for 40+ years! ... so working all your life doesn't guarantee that you'll be looked after, especially if you're a pensioner or disabled. GET OFF OUR BACKS, ALL OF YOU!

[@dward5945]

“I like Reeves” Wow.

[@ukscooby653]

@dward5945 you have a very low "wow factor" 😂

[@Chiefmismaker]

StagFLATION!!!

[@iconicon5642]

How can this guy be an "optimist" when the Soviet commitern is deciding UK economic policy?

[@well-blazeredman6187]

Liz Truss should be making hay with this latest news. I wonder what this does to her chances of getting her old seat back?

[@nicholasriley3569]

'Stagnation' or stagflation!!!!

[@darkbrotherhood3607]

Growth doesn't matter as much as people think, the democrats delivered growth but that growth was localised and failed to be distributed/trickling down enough to be felt. This party is a 1 term party.

[@shig4238]

That wallpaper is just awful

[@stevenfarrall3942]

From memory Truss / Kwarteng did not cut taxes. They mostly just cancelled tax rises and (I think) cut higher rate IT which was not a big cost.

[@markdownton3185]

They proposed a 1% cut in basic rate income tax

[@stevenfarrall3942]

@@markdownton3185 So did not 'cut taxes' but proposed a future tax cut. There are two good articles you can read up on. Just google 'mises liz truss'.

[@Jrjg88]

Whilst Labour are certainly undermining, Liz Truss is a clown and her little budget was a complete disaster. Let’s try and stick to facts here gang

[@Richard-ys9wk]

Is it time to get out of currency?

[@MaximilienRobespierre1]

Independent economist 🤣🤣🤣