A cEDH game with an OPPRESSIVE turn 1 | Thrasios/Bruse VS Zur VS Godo VS Ikra/Dargo

[@Stripespin]

Alex: Play a "Great Furnace" Eliot: It's like an "Okay Furnace" at best 😆

[@SamErvin]

Fun game. So many flashy plays: Chalice, Trinisphere, Boseiju (almost), two free counterspells on Helm, great stuff.

[@TheGrifcannon22]

Good catch by Aaron on the Boseiju, I definitely missed it myself. That the kind of small thing that is easy to miss in the moment.

[@AstronautsLoL]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who forgets to exile eldritch evolution lol

[@NT_Escanor]

I love the way magic allows us as players to say things that sounds like an existential crisis

[@hellNo116]

Question could Aaron mill Jim with the last draw trigger in the stack? At least force Jim work for it? Or I am missing something about how thrasios works? Thanks in advance to anyone who answers.

[@OhSarcasticOne]

Alex's smile at the start, so good

[@fosterdawson7339]

Chalice pass 😈

[@crovax1375]

Asking if the early wheel was a gift is funny to me because the German word for poison is gift...

[@Halinn]

I can't believe that Eliot decided to play a deck with interaction.

[@Delarissa]

Notably Boseiju doesn't make you get a basic land. You get a land with a basic land type, true duals, Shocklands, Triomes are all viable for this. Of course in the mono-Red deck this didn't mean much but could've gotten a Dwarven Mine?

[@adriagarciasarceda3579]

Im really sleepy, but im quite sure Aaron had the combo on board, as dargo can be played infinite times with altar and birgi, and you can mill all opponents doing this!

[@anthonyi8484]

Trinisphere stopped him, it raises the cost to 3 after the cost reductions are applied

[@aquamaton]

New to the channel--is there a video where the mentioned Tor Wauki deck is played? Or was that just gentle memeing? Tor Wauki, the Younger is an extremely sick card.

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

There's a few I think. Here's one we played late last year: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXzchXpvZrV6hJo

[@irreleverent]

The joke is that the deck is literally only 1-drops, which is why Jim reacted with faux vitriol.

[@jonathanosagie1829]

quick question could aaron not have milled jim using the altar of dementia bevor the last trigger of thrasios resolves since jim chose to keep less cards in his library than aaron had power on the board making jim loose the game since he didnt reveal a land of of thrasios forcing a draw while no cards are in his library?

[@mn6334]

On one hand, yes absolutely. On the other hand they probably both just forgot it was there when Jim was shortcutting and if it had been remembered Jim surely would have just shortcut activating Thrasios fewer times to leave a good number of cards in his deck. This isn't the most cutthroat situation and I'm guessing the others would have allowed him to change his shortcut once reminded of the on board interaction.

[@TheGrifcannon22]

It also wouldn't matter since you have to draw from an empty library to lose the game so Jim drawing all but three and stopping there wouldn't be affected if he was milled to zero unless someone had a way to force him to draw a card.

[@jonathanosagie1829]

@@TheGrifcannon22 in response to the last thrasios trigger aaron could have sacrificed his dargo milling the last cards in jims library. then the thrasios trigger would resolve forcing jim to draw a card since he didnt reveal a land

[@egoish6762]

To be fair when he'd sac'd 10 treasures and dargo in turn he could have just looped dargo right there and then to mill the table out i believe. Dargo costs a single red and birgi makes a red when he is cast, altar just wins?

[@mn6334]

@@egoish6762 iirc, the Trinisphere turned repeated Dargo castings off. Even if Dargo only costs 1 to cast Aaron still needs to pay 3 mana to cast it because of Trinisphere.

[@TyranitarStudios]

I loveeed the grindfest, is good to see that midrange decks still have it

[@fosterdawson7339]

Couldn’t Aaron have killed Jim with a thrasios activation on the stack with his altar?

[@Silchain]

Yeah if we responded to it with like 5 cards left and emptied it woulda been hilarious. Assuming there not a stifle or something silly in there.

[@Smith.S.E.]

Three Hundred Million! Jim slowly morphing into Doctor Evil

[@velozmachine]

I'm very much a noob magic player but can you cast Chalice of the Void with just 1 mana source? it seems like the card shows two sources each paying X so even if X is 1 you still need 2 sources each paying 1 to cast it, but that would mean that you pay 2 to get 1 charge counter, pay 4 to get 2 charge counters, etc so it does seem silly but then why print the card that way? wouldn't it make more sense to just print a card that shows one mana source X instead of 2?

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

It was only around briefly, but the land Alex played (Crystal Vein) can either tap for 1 mana or tap and sacrifice for 2 mana. He paid 2 total mana to cast Chalice of the Void.

[@veganpork7601]

22:00 wouldn't jim have to put boseiju into play as a land here? edit- lol i didn't keep watching

[@CarlaoMagnum]

26:50 Why not just mill your opponents once you get Dargo + Magda + Altar in play?

[@RoxyGotMoxy.]

Did you mean Birgi? - The answer as he said in the postgame is that due to the Trinisphere being in play, even though Dargo 'costs R' he actually costs 3, so doesn't go infinite.

[@InspectorCarl]

13:36 i see jim is a man of culture

[@Blackadam36]

33:38 that 250 million mana was awesome!

[@towemtg]

You guys are all awesome!

[@FelinGreenleaf]

That sly Homestar reference from Jim

[@timc0212]

Spike Feeders' music is awesome

[@JAV_AC]

The force of negtion target couldnt be change, there isnt other legl target, or im missing something?

[@anonymoususer5351]

He could change the target to Ricochet Trap itself, it is a spell on the stack as it resolves so you can legally change Pact to target it, and then the Pact would fizzle

[@VagrantKing]

Your games are very fun to watch. I have never played cEDH (though admittedly some of my EDH decks from the early days of the format probably would have qualified before we had labels like that) but have been interested lately. I am working on a Saffi Eriksdotter deck, people tell me she’s extremely low-mid at best, but I love the card.

[@tildukeball]

Tailoring to your meta is much more rewarding than online tier lists. You have a bevy of lines in selesnya, just get those reps and show the haters why a cheap wincon in the zone is so dangerous 👨🏻‍🍳

[@lightfut]

Eliot punished because you see, it's Grims Monolith, not Grim Monoloths

[@ElDocBruh]

Jim just waiting for the Crypt to do the deed 🤣 Evil.

[@TheQueerLeaf]

Taiga uppercut!

[@InfectiousCrazyMan]

Can someone tell me why the card back they put in the middle of the screen has 6 color pips?

[@TheGrifcannon22]

It's a long time running joke they've had on the channel.

[@wemf2]

I was hoping to see how Zur could be played in cEDH... but it's just being used for its colors? :( Sadge.

[@Coulrophobia29]

Not at all, a lot of the cards Eliot drew off Ad Naus were enchantments which Zur helps to cheat out when he attacks.

[@Mynthio]

24:00 Sadly for Alex that Ricochet Trap does nothing because Helm of the Host is Pact of Negation's only legal target.

[@jdh100000]

Ricochet Trap redirects Pact of Negation to Ricochet Trap.

[@semperignotus]

You can have ricochet trap redirect pact to the trap since while trap is still resolving, it is on the stack. Since trap is a legal target for a pact, it does work. It is a bit awkward, but a spell doesn't leave the stack until after it resolves, not during resolution.

[@mandielyn0416]

I think it is time to have Ian on an episode.

[@glerry51]

Jim could have lost if Aaron mede him mill the last few cards with the last Thrasios activation on the stack.

[@argonnas2]

That early wheel hitting raz really screwed the dargo player

[@chrisbedrin3618]

A little surprised Eliot didn't activate the Wishclaw Talisman to go get Angel's Grace in response to the Mana Crypt trigger.

[@nathantyrrell3824]

I thought that said only when you could cast a sorcery, but you're right! It's actually only on your turn. Good to know.

[@santajose]

Great game a lot of interaction

[@TIDEPOOLRALLY]

Don’t like cat cat as much took me out 😂😂

[@kfunky209]

Red decks do be going fast these days

[@ajaydassani9931]

Isn't sol ring countered when chalice comes back

[@chrisbedrin3618]

Chalice doesn't return with counters on it, so it's now on 0 which doesn't counter the Sol Ring.

[@thevaultwalrus]

love the Toxicity

[@JohnSmith-he5ip]

I hate that Godo and Etali both have overpowered abilities and are legal to play, but Golos the pilgrim is banned. How is golos more game breaking than those two?

[@sebastianoparenti3536]

5c>1/2c. Also golos was banned for homogeneity not power, although he is still very powerful. Etali and godo are not equal in power either.

[@thevaultwalrus]

wow title

[@allein8er]

Not hating but how is cEDH fun? It's all the same types of things in every deck.

[@TheGrifcannon22]

It's not the destination but the journey that gets you there.

[@avrohomguttman7083]

you just saw 4 completely different gameplans going on ..... how is that all the same

[@HappyGoldfis]

I'd strongly disagree, there is a many different types of strats. As well as the chess argument. People play the same pieces very differently, even assuming complete homogony of the pieces