Thrasios & Vial Smasher Are Better Than You Think | Brewer's Choice

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[@jcollins14]

Super appreciate the Stax conversation, as a stax player. Thanks for delving into the issues and complexity of the archetype.

[@Dikarika]

Yeah I agree with Callahan. As a long time stax player (Daretti gang!) it plays out mostly as described. It's a tough archetype to bring to the table and expect consistency.

[@rustitg4808]

Magda pilot here! As a deck FULL of X/1s, sure bowmasters is pretty good against us, but ultimately if you build your deck correctly and mulligan with intent, you can generally go over it without too much trouble. The deck is starting to Top 16 more events and gain traction too ;)

[@BisyBackson365]

Really glad to see Thrasios/Smasher have a full fledged discussion and deck tech. I jumped on the list at the beginning of summer after playing Temur Dargo (Freedom's). "CatFish Soup" basic built it with inspiration of old skool BlueFarm, Dawnwaker(this was peaking at the time), and sprinkling in Rog/si and NBC Najeela(The truth). There is absolutely no reason why this pair should not be considered top4 "best deck". I think people where absolutely STUCK on curiosity.

[@eM3lLiSe]

My biggest complaint about stax players is that they like to play pieces like Deafening Silence in a game with Magda or Sisay. Basically handing the game to them and never doing anything to slow down their board state. My second complaint is that they constantly say, " you're overreacting to my stax piece that will completely shut down your game plan. Let me keep this so that next turn I can play two more so that you're completely locked out." My third complaint is someone removing a piece without attempting a win. They remove the stax piece and then just pass to let the other guy go for the W. I think stax needs, toolbox commanders like Captain Sisay, splashing the color blue for counters, or a hyper aggressive commander like Winota to be viable.

[@johnnybarnett6221]

Pretty hyped to see this episode drop. I just took my thrasios/vial list to a tournament and did relatively well with it. Love the deck and will main it for some time to come. Thanks for the content!

[@PubStompMTG]

Ight I wasnt convinced before, but now because of Ian, Misc and Boo is an auto include for my gruul colored decks.

[@CarmenPontello-xu6th]

I feel like Ian’s going to build a Stax deck just so he can take down a tourny and tell cal I told ya so

[@trenchaus]

Fuck yes !! Do it ❤

[@Hysteria19]

The stax take was pretty interesting. I feel like stax is the hardest archetype to play alongside control because it is very dependent on the skill of the player to assess which stax piece is appropriate for the specific pod and the board state in the game which is the same as control where you essentially have to decide what needs to be countered. Feels like Callahan was associating an archetype with being hard with being unhealthy for the format.

[@damo9961]

Imagine a 2 to 3 mana Azorious and a 2 to 3 mana Golgari partners with abilities on par with Tymna and Thrasios. Imagine a Dimir one.

[@matthewbell4897]

Great timing on this, I’ve been thinking about playing ikra Kraum for the sans white turbo naya that can audible to Kraum if you mull to 4 or get stuffed on a win attempt, but thras/vial turning on the free-cast cards and infinite mana is also tempting….

[@nicolasleyton4330]

it feels like Callahan wants all games to end at turn 2 with a combo

[@aidansherwin3872]

dont we all

[@iraangove7298]

Ian being a VGC player or doubles pokemon player was not on my bingo card, based cross over. Cool to see some light on an under rep'd deck, also nice tangents on archetypes of cedh in general.

[@jonathonfoster3942]

Summer Bloom? Am I missing something? Feels like an only post naus card. Even there, its just a better Desperate Ritual. For that it's not bad. But is it good enough?

[@josephkoepke1251]

Is something wrong with Ian’s audio? It seems like a lot of his sentences have the audio cut out towards the end (usually on the last word) it doesn’t make anything hard to understand, i just noticed it.

[@Wolfsaber55]

Great brewing! Wondering if you will be brewing any Francisco partner decks. My favorite right now is Francisco Kraum but there’s some other spicy ones I’ve seen

[@TheZombieGrunt]

Love me some brewers choice episodes!

[@LightBulbPlayz]

I'd suggest Flesh Duplicate over PI for your list Ian. Yes, it works fine with Temur, but it doesn't work with Hullbreaker. Not sure if the Blue pip is worth a nombo with one of your infinite mana engines.

[@mrTjstephens1]

My offering to algorithm Jesus!

[@Sovietmass]

I think there needs to be non-blue non counter spell ways to punish mass draws and degenerate combos (orcish bowmasters). Wheels are a huge part of a ton of decks gameplan and I don't think the only answer should be counter them (and thus be in a blue deck) or bust. It's kind of hard for more fringe color combinations like Orzov to get off the ground in cEDH if we keep removing one of the few ways to interact with am opposing deck going off.

[@manachamber]

There are definitely staple cards out there that don't feel great to play, but must be played for the decks sake.

[@floridaman6982]

Bow masters is super overpowered

[@mandielyn0416]

The only problem with Bowmaster is the words “any target”. If the card read any target belonging to the person drawing the card, the card would have been perfect and we wouldn’t be talking about it all the time. I love the card, but it was slightly misdesigned.

[@kevinsimmons5343]

WOW…. I’M SO HURT. I SHARED THIS EPISODE ON TWITTER CAUSE YALL WERE BALLIN’…. AND THEN YOU GO AND POOP ON THE YIDDY COMMITTEE WITH YA FART SMASHERS…..

[@andrewkelley6039]

here 6 months later to say Cal is right about bowmasters and stax, its up to wotc now #keepprinting

[@laaronml]

Ssshhhh!!! Don’t tell people.

[@guitarID]

Run time sieve! I know you won't cowards lol

[@hellproof2379]

Algorithm comment. Great content

[@jniteshade5352]

Usually just listen to the Podcast but came into the video to say this. You missed an opportunity here. Vile Fart and Assios. That is all.

[@ELDevaux]

Just my humble and biased opinion, but I think Blue's Clues is strictly better Thras/Vial

[@sthjr112358]

Lol 👋

[@ELDevaux]

@@sthjr112358 teehee

[@slept6736]

The gate on Ian’s mic sounds like shit. He doesn’t talk loud enough with that gate threshold for it to not cut off the last syllables of everything he says and starts with

[@TheMindSculptors]

ya this episode had some weird audio issues across the board.

[@CarmenPontello-xu6th]

I love the mind sculptors and Callahan but that Stax convo was way off. Dude kept burying himself. Bad take

[@NewSchoolPOKERstrat]

Why does wotc hate poor people? BowMasters DUSTED many of the least expensive cedh decks; Magda, Selvala, hate bears. I really hate that card. Should be called GateMasters. And I have two fully IRL cedh decks and have a proxy friendly play group. But that’s not everyone’s reality