What If Darth Sidious Truly CARED About Darth Vader

[@thestarwarsgalaxy]

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[@KJclone_]

What if Palpatine discovered he was a fictional character and broke free into the real world and when windu came to kill him he found the portal to the real world and you can come up with some story after that with militaries. It would be cool if palpatine would come and kill you as soon as he comes through the portal and you have a reaction and a new voice actor would come. You would be more scared the more palpatine discovered

[@MosEisleyCantinaStories]

Thank you star wars Galaxy! You're just as good as PPSW theory, and the other what if channels I'm subbed to. That's why u got my sub, cause u r amazing at story telling

[@Elitegamer364-official]

I have an idea: what if count dooku snitched on palpatine in rots right before being decapitated

[@negadoge]

What if the death star never existed?

[@socialaccount0000]

Congrats to the guy who suggested this idea 1000 times

[@ZeKermet]

😂

[@oaschloch-reuploads4423]

I even watched "what if palpetin cared about Anakin

[@AZ11EDITZ]

@@SoaringFlamesit was you

[@Eric6761]

I feel something in between kinda of annoyance but I appreciate his determination

[@ZenkruGaming]

I mean, on most previous videos he's there. Congrats to him tbf

[@NormalChannel95]

There's this weird yet awfully wholesome thing when Sith Masters become proud of their students before they die and their students become the masters

[@dragonlord498]

Also in the old Republic era their was much much less conflict between master and apprentices usually. often being actual family or having a similar relationship Then that incarnation of the sith got destroyed and succeeded by the brotherhood and then bane which only had the bad parts of the sith

[@xXS4mCr091Xx]

Sith are killing each other since the beginning maybe this is why Bane came up with "the rule of two" so Sith Masters won´t get jumped by 6 apprentices at the same time xD But this "the learner becomes the master" thing is why they´re full fledged warriors who live for battle and power alone. The old Jedi must´ve been the same since they almost drove them to extinction.

[@dragonlord498]

@@xXS4mCr091Xx bane actually made things worse given in the old republic they were expected to follow certain rules if two or more sith were going to fight one another such as various type of ritualistic combats the ro2 had no such rules and they it was 100% expected for a master to kill the apprentice or vice versa in the ro2. and the ro2 apprentice still typically used trickery and attacking them at their weakest to kill their masters. while the masters always withheld a good portion of their knowledge and resources. and the sith of old they weren't just a small cult they were a full culture and even species. so the infighting was greatly exaggerated what really brought them down wasn't infighting but every other faction tended to focus aggression at the sith empire given least during that time period they were pretty much the galactic punching bag.

[@eeurr1306]

@@dragonlord498 As you can see the rule of two made the sith mastermind manipulators, which worked out exceedingly well.

[@dragonlord498]

@@eeurr1306 not really sure they took power but that lasted only a couple decades what took them about 1000 years to achieve where each of the previous incarnations tended to last much longer minimum centuries if not thousands of years and even after ro2 took control they had to hide their real identities still

[@alisterfolson]

Vader and Sidious rule together a force for "good" Yuzhan Vong: "challenge accepted"

[@MoaRider]

I love villains who treat their loyal henchmen with respect and don't just seem them as pawn to be used and thrown away when they're no longer useful.

[@Aden_III]

I LOVE THAT TROPE!! ALL MY BOYS LOVE THAT TROPE !!!🗣️

[@TheMagnaficent]

I am borderline obsessed with that trope it’s so rare but so powerful

[@birudagreat1427]

I love villains who treat their allies with respect as well! It never made sense to me that the villains discard their own allies because of weakness or failure!

[@zachmansfield6640]

The scariest villains are the ones who think they're the hero. This Vader would be a nightmare.

[@matthewmann8969]

What if Sidious actually cared for Dooku and saw him as a brother from another mother due to how similar there wealthy, elitist, political, and governmental backgrounds were and both being Human?

[@MosEisleyCantinaStories]

Omg swg please!!!

[@magnawaves]

Hell yeah, good idea

[@soularprimestudios5930]

Both of there fathers also hated them

[@angeloinfinity3054]

Absolutely!

[@goodputin4324]

*their, not there

[@ZymosEditz]

Alternate Title: What If Darth Sidious Had The Mentality Of Darth Plagueis

[@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus]

I mean, sort off

[@joemama-qy4fb]

No immortality though.

[@alonk1060]

Sidious heard the blade activate, and his final words were, "do it"

[@matteads4687]

I love the full brutality of Obi-Wan/Rouge One Vader. Also his portrayal in Rebels is top notch

[@goodputin4324]

*Rogue

[@hulkhogan9704]

@@goodputin4324 classic mistake in english language; its always called "rouge", not "rogue" - its a thief-ish person, not red make-up

[@TheSpyFromTeamFortress2]

@@hulkhogan9704 You’ve got those backwards, my guy. Rouge is the color, rogue means a thief.

[@hulkhogan9704]

i meant to say that people always call it "rouge", which is obviously wrong. i did NOT mean that "rouge" is the right synonym for a thief :D@@TheSpyFromTeamFortress2

[@VTsiFanfic]

I can just imagine when Vader gets killed after training the next Sith, Sidious says "that's my boy!"

[@AgentM79]

This is how Darth Sidious SHOULD have interacted with Darth Vader. As things are depicted now in the comics, it’s amazing that Emperor Palpatine was able to accomplish ANYTHING given such a badly undermined and sabotaged apprentice.

[@Adrian7070-h4g]

In legends the emperor did not treat vader like dirt 24/7. He did not go do such lengths per set but he at least put a modicum of an effort to the whole master-apprentice thing

[@Fordo007]

@@Adrian7070-h4glegends had villains act like people, not stock characters. Most of the time.

[@SWDude2710]

​@Fordo007 some characters acted like pure psychopaths in Legends like Aurra Sing, though it does work for her.

[@JohnDoe-wb6vl]

​@@SWDude2710she can be my psychopath

[@SWDude2710]

@@JohnDoe-wb6vl huh? Fair enough.

[@aethervein]

What if _both_ Anakin _and_ Padme had nightmares of Padme's maternal death?

[@Eric6761]

That's creative

[@VitaminDealer]

Baller idea

[@Tevi_L7151]

It will be more interesting if Padmé has nightmares about Anakin being wounded on Mustafar and his suit

[@krispalermo8133]

First off, in ESB it shown Luke & Leia had an emotional/mental bond. Later shown during RotJ. In the RPG, Force Users( FU)/sensitives had Empathy & Telepathic abilities, along with Battle Mind where FU mental link up to dog pack their actions. Maul took some major mental trauma Feeling his Brother death. Then when his mother gave her life to buy time for Maul to escape from Palpatine & Dooku. When Anakin was in burning pain & abandonment, he reached out to the woman he loves, Anakin drag Padme down into death. Then the respirator turn on. So Anakin sleeping next to Padme, yeah they would share dream states and nightmares.

[@Thaumh]

Both you and Pente covered this idea. It's an interesting notion. Anakin was, as Kenobi pointed out to him, supposed to end the Sith, not join with them. What no one of the Jedi would, nor could consider, was that rather than a defeat in combat it could be an emotional undermining of the Sith's greatest master in several thousand years. On the other hand, as you did here, with the Sith winning, it hits home what Luke said to Rey in the Sequel Trilogy, time for the Jedi to die. In time however, the pendulum will swing back to the Light, preferably with something new instead of a rekindling.

[@Dante_YL]

This is wholesome in a strange way, love it

[@stealthynaxo]

I have to say that the "Dark Horse" Legends Vader is my favorite version. He is cruel, broken and evil. And yet to the avarage trooper he is like a King, heroic, inspiring, an avatar of duty and leadership. I just love how Vader was seen from all "certain" points of view. *Wink. Wink.*

[@Man_Aslume]

HUH

[@SWDude2710]

@@stealthynaxo fair opinion tbf, though even outside that, Legends does Vader pretty dirty a lot, but the tragic parts of his character are brought into Canon while the newer stuff does far more justice to him, power wise and tragedy aspects.

[@agressia5582]

He DID care in his twisted and horrible way

[@skyj5606]

Sidious: come boy Vader: My name is vader Sidious: quiet boy Vader: something is something i suppose 🗿

[@bradleychan5684]

Kratos: (nods in silence)

[@jshrhrgahhuehtnmppl]

Get in the boat, boy

[@RatchetAndClank14]

What if the Jedi believed the Sith had returned in The Phantom Menace?

[@BigSteve9713]

Then it's all over for Sheev - Supposedly the only thing keeping Dooku as a light sided Jedi is Jinn living SO If more Jedi went with him and Kenobi too fight Maul, potentially capturing him if not outright killed. Dooku stays as a Jedi, Jinn trains AND IS THERE for Anakin giving him the father figure he needed, and given Jinn's distrust of politicians, Sheev would struggle too unveil any mental mayhem

[@RatchetAndClank14]

​@@BigSteve9713But Dooku turned to the dark side because he saw that the Jedi were not what they once were

[@BigSteve9713]

@@RatchetAndClank14 I've seen both reasons cited, but I easily could've made a mistake. Whether or not Sheev can turn Dooku, Jinn is still there both for Anakin and as an influence keeping him away from any politicians

[@angrybirdsandwich2334]

I feel like vader wouldn't kill sidious. Vader wasn't ever like the Sith. He only killed him because of sidious betraying and basically manipulating and torturing him for decades. I honestly think this would end with them staying in power.

[@zachmansfield6640]

He literally told his wife that he wanted to overthrow the chancellor.

[@muk2626]

Yeah, I was thinking that at first Vader ignites his safer but changes his mind and deignites it and instead offers Palpatine his hand to help him back onto his feet.

[@TheCrownedSun]

"Look, we're BOTH Masters. You need to take another apprentice, and my Former Master, SO DO I. The Rule of Two is stupid. The Jedi are dead. The Rule needs to die with them. That is how we can TRULY ensure that the Sith dominate the fate of the galaxy until the end of time. Besides, I'm kinda prophesied to end all this bullshit, right? This probably counts. I kill both the Jedi AND the Sith. Bringing Balance to the force-- and stability to our Empire,-"

[@magotine4787]

Vader in Jedi Survivor has to be my favourite because I just shows his dominance and how he can play with other surviving Jedi after order 66.

[@arcticfox3243]

I love this. Perfect example for the rule of two. The twist where very different from simular storied. Plus them playing with the rebels boosting them up just to destroy them is the very essence of Palpatine and sith. My favorite vadet was rogue one and obi. It showed how truly ruthless vader was.

[@Regis1603]

I just think Vader would never kill Padme, nor his children, let alone so brutally

[@nickgennady]

Point was Palpatine trained Anikian out of him

[@lothara.schmal5092]

I think he would actually, her dying before he was fully Sith is what carved that piece of his old self forever in him. Many Sith have loved and killed their true love, the dark side corrupts

[@ZomboidMania]

What if Palpatine was just a good dude and tried his best to make the galaxy better?

[@psychedelicartistry]

9:24 I'd like to imagine that's Vader screaming 'WHAT THE FUCK?'

[@austinforgie1069]

Didn't sound like Vader. Not mechanical

[@AzguardMike]

If we just look at his film scenes, he did care. He calls Vader his friend, counsels him on his emotions and fears, puts any doubts at ease. Hell, its why Palpatine wants LUKE to kill him. Then Palpatine will possess Luke and be side by side with Vader. but because of the cartoons, books, comics and Disney+ being the way they are, we now have a cruel old man who regularly removes Vader's cybernetics, electrocuted Vader for shits and giggles, tortured Vader on a whim emotionally, sent assassins to kill Vader on many occasions and constantly tried to replace him with The Inquisitors and the surviving younglings.

[@andrewtallman1867]

Yeah, murdering Ahsoka right in front of Padme will totally get her to want to come with you

[@ogerpinata-nu2th]

Good treatment will foster more loyalty than fear will ever.

[@romhackerplus6691]

I feel like he'd be weaker, because it's the anger that fuels him. Such is the way of the sith.

[@alistermanase2581]

Akbar: IT'S A TRA-(dies as Home One is blown up)

[@noahsibahi-jackson8757]

If only Sidious wasn’t selfish to such a fault and he had actually cared about vader his plan would have worked

[@theneurodivergent-fu5bu]

What if anakin broke down crying upon seeing obi wan on padme’s ship. When she say I love you he breaks down realizing he’s a monster

[@Man_Aslume]

What if R2D2 was the sith lord

[@bigwsly]

Great video and btw Knightfall vader is slouch a unique part of his life Genuinely when he was at his best and in the force and also the shbtle changes are great

[@FivePeake]

Yeah nightfall Vader is awesome

[@negadoge]

Im going to bd real here...i love this version of Sidious. Hes not a monster for the sake of being a monster, while hes not good hes not vile. This is what i believe the perfect villain to be, powerful, selfish, and ultimately true. A bad villain is someone who will throw his subordinates away like they are so easily replaceable... while this version of Sidious underwent pain for someone other than himself for the sake of someone other than himself.... hes honestly a "bad guy" but not a bad guy.

[@Blyisfulcrum259]

Honestly, this video is a great take on Sidious if he did care about Vader, great stuff!

[@nathanj7520]

This one warms my heart 😁😁

[@hunterjohnson7387]

What If Obi Wan and Yoda went to fight Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith.

[@randalcook325]

Then obi wan would have been killed with no mercy what so ever, and Yoda would have run like the toad did in the movie.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

So in that case sidious made sure Vader's suit would be an up to date suit and life tech and would be upgraded

[@imonit4272]

The only reason good has a chance and hope even exists is because evil never really cares about anyone. If it somehow did, this would indeed be the result. Great story…

[@Dwayne_LaFontant]

This is what Anakin thought Palps was doing to be like.

[@MosEisleyCantinaStories]

An amazing story my friend. Great as per usual, and goes beyond my expectations

[@majesticmsfc]

Great video, nice to see you always trying new things.

[@Abjectbutterfly]

As a trophy not as a person

[@xXS4mCr091Xx]

Just to answer the thumbnail: Sidious would´ve made sure Vader´s armor wouldn´t be a painfull prison but an armor that enhances his physical abilities to superhuman feats and oc he´d taught him EVERYTHING he knew even force lightning etc. He´d take a gamble bc Vader could betray him oc especially if he grows too strong but Vader would´ve been an unstoppable force of nature and there wouldn´t be anyone to cross his path and tell the tale. The true Fallen One what if would be nice.

[@mopar_man74]

This is just if darth sidious wasn't a sociopath

[@RayAkuma]

Hey i actually requested this exact what if a few days ago on the pente patrol channel😂😂

[@RatchetAndClank14]

What if Anakin turned to the dark side after destroying the Tuskenu village and joined Count Dooku in Attack of the Clones?

[@DeathMetalThrasher]

Instantly before I watch this video, I'll say this immediately. Vaders suit & cybernetics would be more advanced, not constantly hurt and feel uncomfortable all the time. Vader would be able to upgrade over the years.

[@evergreengaming2.053]

(⚠️ Potential spoilers below for people who came to the comments before watching the video.⚠️) Never thought I'd see him go that far. Killing Ahsoka the way he did was brutal enough, then Obi-Wan and Yoda, but his own wife and daughter?! That's just messed up. Good video and story as always!

[@jaydenbrooks7913]

this was a banger keep it up

[@jasohavents]

I like how you called her Leia Organa. But in this reality she wouldn't have been raised by Bail. She would either be Leia Amidala or Leia Skywalker like Luke. Funny little oversight.

[@ballroomdru]

Vader’s introduction in Star Wars Rebels was the scariest Vader in both ground and space combat.

[@Hamburger_lol]

burger

[@thestarwarsgalaxy]

I would pin this comment if I didn’t have to pin my own

[@Hamburger_lol]

@@thestarwarsgalaxy thank you, my good man. May the force be with you

[@emerald-1878]

​@Hamburger_lol can i eat you loooool

[@redandroyalfilms8019]

Palpeteen in the clone wars : Aniken how was your day Palpeteen as emperor: you failed your mission eat lightning

[@Rjfromoutsouth.04]

I like how you mirror Malgus and Vindicans moment together for Vader and Palpatine

[@brothers_of_nod]

This was definitely an interesting path to take this. Part of me would have liked it if they stayed in a grandson grandfather dynamic but this was good.

[@Man_Aslume]

My favorite is fallen order vader > shows up > stabs the 2nd sister no effort > Yeets what'sherface > makes cal run > casually shows up to dominate > holds back a ocean level of water and lives > *refuses to elaborate further* > *Leaves*

[@qalnor]

Just listened to this... I think this is literally my favorite one you've ever made. I haven't looked to see how the popularity of this one compares to stories released around the same time, but I'd guess it's probably less popular on average, but I loved it. I am a real sucker for a truly evil ending, which is why I personally love return of the sith (even though the evilness of the ending is mostly gotten away with because everyone already knew the real ending)

[@lolsaidthescorpionlmao]

The one thing I can think of is that vader would be way more op, I can't be the only one who thought: hey why didn't they just clone vader to get some spare parts and eventually get him fully recovered? Even if the parts age faster like the clones they can just keep making more and make it a regular thing, surely that's way better than old robot parts..

[@NeoMurray]

What if Darth Malgus was put in stasis sleep and was accidently woken up during the clone wars? Loving these stories so much, keep up the fantastic work.👏 😊

[@KepaniGrayson]

Excellent work. Really enjoyed this one.

[@VandalsVideos]

Sidious if cared about anyone was his master that was it

[@dianesinger9729]

That was different and very well done

[@SuperBlueGamer9000]

I have a weird crossover idea, what if Vader had Hashirama cells

[@Abjectbutterfly]

He’d be god lol

[@lanebrandon8825]

Fantastic videos! Only getting better

[@canofbeanns]

A sequel to this would be amazing. "What if Darth Vader and Darth Starkiller ruled the empire." Luke could be met with a force ghost from both yoda and obiwan in which they try to turn him back and he either accepts them or completely turns to the dark side

[@andrewmarks3433]

Sidious? Not wanting immortality XD that'd be the day

[@robertomarrero3042]

What if Palpatine had dementia? What if Padme killed Anakin on Mustafar? What if Obi-wan was the chosen one? What if all the clones were defeated during order 66?

[@Niklarus2010]

I was 7 when the original Star Wars came out. The original Trilogy Vader will always be my favorite.

[@OriginalMomo]

Vader in “Kenobi” series I feel is the closest to the monster he was always portrayed to be. Or, the hallway scene at the end of Rogue one. The true monster.

[@jakeredding5221]

This was really a good one!

[@Sid.lifts07]

One of your best stories

[@alcidesaguedo1134]

Excellent video, the story is very well written

[@Intrepid_A]

What if around about a year into the formation of the empire, Vader betrays the empire and goes rogue, forming his own faction mostly consisting of old cis vehicles, ships, battle droids, and rescued slaves, secretly and slowly building his new faction up and conducting hit and run tactics on both the empire and rebel cells?

[@michaelsolomon1517]

A true Sith pursues POWER for powers sake. A true Sith removes any attachments that cause weakness in the dark side. While interesting in concept, I don't see this as a true possibility.

[@marcusisgod2592]

What if anakin was piloting before attack of the clones and sensed ventress fall to the darkside as her master died and took his ship to the planet to investigate. Perhaps starting a romance as they are very similar in their stories. Also what if ahsoka taught ben skywalker as she saw him as history repeating itself. What if anakin was a jedi watchmen or wayfinder. What if anakin went with kenobi to face maul and savage instead of adi gallia. What if anakin fell in love with luminara or your own version of aayla secura romance. What if oppo rancis trained anakin. What if anakin met and fell in love with ventress just before the clone wars just after her masters death. What if anakin became a jedi sentinel like a watchmen or one of those who find younglings. What if evan piel became a mentor or second master to anakin. Or anakin became a healer either before or after his mother death could be related to his friendship with offee or alternatively what if he was trained by tra sa who taught windu and actually did not forbid attachment as shown by her relationship with tholme , they could become like a pseudo parents to anakin and train him away from the temple in azati martial arts and from trasa the living force as she is a plant lady so imagine anakin controlling plant life.

[@MystikSwordzManZ]

Anakin wise would be during operation Nightfall, pretty mich his peak and Vader wise would be Rogue One since he was now at his best during that era

[@robertmueller2023]

I heard that he's just a crazy old hermit that lives out beyond the Dune Sea?

[@psychedelicartistry]

OG Vader is my Favorite, particularly in Empire Strikes Back.

[@JediMaster_PloKoon]

What if Plo Koon trained Cal Kestis?

[@jakegamera7174]

Vader was definitely Palpatines favorite apprintec.

[@Mystic_Gaming0128]

What if vader was successful in freezing luke day183

[@JerryMcterry]

Where's that one guy? He's been requesting this from everyone 😂😂

[@AdamLB]

Me? Lol

[@KaneMeadowsGaming]

This is why I actually dont like Sidious. He never even gave Vader the chance to fullfill his role as a Sith. Palptaine just refused to die and wanted nothing but power, even going as far as to physically limit his apprentice with a special suit

[@GalacticAvenger1]

What If Padme Had Triplets

[@cyrounigx]

Sheev:Lord Vader Let's Go Fishing Vader: Ok Palpatine

[@bluntslt8023]

This is so good thanks for making this

[@jaredreyna3773]

That was awesome

[@crowland1129]

What if vader found out leia was his daugter during the kanobi show.

[@splashnskillz37]

I guess sidious got scared of force retaliation and started to shed some lightside to mask his darkness

[@Overlord367]

if they did care it would form the best form of government as well as possibly the best end result for the galaxy as care and compassion are still emotional responses that the dark side can use.its why i like the Sith amongst other things the only problem the Sith actually really have is one another as if they would choose to work together and respect one another in a real way no one would really have a chance as each fallen Sith would only further fuel the fire basically and if they only gave a shit about one another you in some real deep shit now as that’s basically there only real flaw as far as i can tell.

[@johnbartley4932]

5:47 palps: *ripping a bong* "Ehehe i'm the senate!! Lord Vader, come to my quarters immediately and try this skronk bro! It hits different lmao"

[@NotceDragon]

Needs a part 2 of with what happens with luke

[@ghostzombie6397]

Thank you😊

[@shelledcrane0177]

What type of videos are more popular on your channel, the ones with the good endings or the bad ones? Also what if Padma’s children were the mortess gods of good and evil and Anikine was the father?

[@thestarwarsgalaxy]

I think good endings are more popular, but it’s nice to have a few evil endings sprinkled in. My whole point of view of these is typically that the light side should come on top but sometimes a topic calls for switching it up!

[@AironSmieciowy-di3qy]

Great video!

[@BD-Helldroid]

Favourite version of Vader on screen, the OG movies. never gonna be topped for me, BUT in games, Definitely Jedi Survivor (best boss battle of the Game)

[@chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031]

Sorely needed this...

[@ClaudevonRiegan_]

What if Crosshair didn’t want to join the empire, and stayed with the bad batch What if Bode never betrayed Cal

[@PrussianGeneral1815]

You listened to that guy!

[@memoryloss4327]

Next video: What if Palpatine was gay for Vader?

[@mike8930]

this video is strangely wholesome