Why your rocking, bobbing and swaying dizziness won't stop - Mal de Debarquement Syndrome (MdDS)

By popular request, in this video I talk about MdDS and related symptoms of 24/7 rocking, bobbing, swaying and other sensations of constant movement. We talk about the mechanisms (the HOW) of MdDS, but more importantly, we talk about what I believe to be the cause (the WHY). We also discuss a general strategy for recovery. I give some advice on how to use my free course if you have MdDS symptoms.
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[@lm3912]

Thank you from the bottom of my heart, from Australia - for your sharing and expertise. I experienced MMDS back in 2014 in which I saw endless drs, physios, neurosurgeons who were clueless to this. Eventually with a lot of self research and work with another neurosurgeon, we believed I had MDDS. (MDDS literally disabled my quality of life, when I was in my 20’s after a prolonged kayaking tour). Came off the kayak and for 4yrs, I had these constant bobbing and swaying sensations whenever I was in a fixed position. I would feel like I was walking on mushy ground, walking on waves, or my feet are not planted on the ground firmly. These sensations were greatly heightened whenever I was sitting still, standing still, lying in bed. I would feel like I was floating on waves. Whenever I was walking, running, doing something in motion - I actually didn’t feel the rocking sensations. As if I was “moving” in the “rocking”? So it was ok. Believe it or not, as a Christian - through prayer in Jesus Christ, one night I heard Jesus ask me if I trusted in him, and I gave my life to Him if he would heal me. As crazy as it sounds - that following morning waking up…I was healed in every fiber of my being. Zero MDDS symptoms, was like a baby being able to sit, stand, again without bobbing. It’s been 6yrs of healing. And I’m grateful for Jesus. Even though these few days, I randomly experienced a relapse of what seems like MMDS again. First I thought it’s vertigo, however after trying epley maneuvers it didn’t trigger any spinning sensations. MDDS is a living hell! Just wanted to say thank you for your channel, you’re really bringing this rare illness into light , and hopefully there will be more medical investigations and treatments on this over time! I hope to try out the optical moving stripes app, you suggested :) and hope it will give some relief over the week! Please keep doing the amazing work you’re doing - you’re truly saving lives, even if it’s just mine for a day! ❤ God bless

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi there, my heart aches for you and all you've gone through- I am so glad to hear the videos have been helpful to you. It is my experience that people with faith or spiritual practice actually often get better more quickly because they are able to let go of some of the emotional pain that leads to prolonged symptoms. This is a good time to pray for healing and also to explore recent and past emotional pain with the help of your faith and the unconditional love you feel from Jesus.

[@lm3912]

@@TheSteadyCoach thank you truly so much, you’re doing amazing kindness out of your free time to help us all too. Will be a top follower of yours!! God bless you 🙏🥰

[@wutru20]

@@TheSteadyCoach if we accept it for what it is, because it is the set of cards we are given, maybe we can recover. I notice when i try ro fix Mdds or pppd it flares up. And i'm scared that flying will worsen my symptoms after the flight...

[@galejoyal5367]

Had this for years and years. After hearing you talk about this I think it could be my problem. I keep running from doctor to doctor. No answers. How can you help me.

[@diannebucad351]

Your comment gives me hope that one day Jesus will hear and deliver answered prayer to this, I have this for more than 2 years already. It's like living in hell, it feels like I'm dying everyday. Thank you for giving me hope! God Bless. Thanks to you too @thesteady coach 💖🙏🏼

[@MichaelHplus]

This lady knows her stuff. What a pleasure it would be to go to such a knowledgeable clinician instead of the medical professionals we usually encounter when we come down with these conditions.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

You're too kind, Michael! Thank you!

[@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854]

Not known her stuff, I had problem with even with the planes, her _"48 hours"_ didn't exist in real world.

[@saramcintosh3786]

2/23/24 Cruised 11+ times from 1984- 2024. No Mdds ever. Most recent cruise ended 3/18/23. Mdds onset 3/18/23 with persistent swaying symptoms thru present. Just started Optokinetic stripes that may be helping. New med GLP1A only difference. Unrelated to stress as more stress in past yrs than current year.

[@evelynhernandez7106]

Medical drs are no good

[@terribergau2942]

Mom d😅,, I'm SS a az az

[@shelveswithstories13]

For anyone reading this, i got it for 2 weeks after using the elevator. It stopped at the wrong floor and i anxiously hurried out and got back in, which I presume, caused the imbalance I endured for a good few painful days. I would have really bad anxiety attacks, which worsened the rocking and swaying motion. But, it soon went away by the end of 2 weeks and I am very thankful for it. Try to be patient, walk 10 mins twice daily, practice some vestibular exercises and you should be good. Staying active and keeping your stress levels low is the key. You arent alone.

[@liveshifter7325]

Thank you SO much for this I got it yesterday a couple hours after getting off of a plane and carried on into today, now that you say that it is the “WHY” I am so happy that I finally have a reason why this is happening and also thank you for being so genuine.

[@judithdegraffenreid1363]

You are my HERO! I have listened to you very carefully. I’m 84 years old. 5years ago-I was struck down by a large dog-in the middle of my back. Long story short-I’m completely well now-as I understand why I’ve been “rocking and rolling”since that time. I’m overcoming it. I have so much to say-that I’m going to write it all out and somehow-send it to you. All of this has nothing to do with age. I, now, feel like I’m in my 70’s and have a lot more living to do.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Judith, this filled my heart with joy. YES you have many good years to live, and to hear that you’re going to be able to do that without living in fear of these sensations is phenomenal. I would love to hear more of your story- please email me at [e-mail] !

[@loveconquersall143]

PLEASE let us know!!! 🙏

[@BlessedKarma10]

Oh I love this, how fantastic

[@mancavemoney2]

You are a God send!! I started noticing slight dizziness at the end of 2022. I told my Dr at the time and he did some silly quick test and let it go. In 2023, my current Dr did the same thing. I do cruise yearly and in November of 23, I took a cruise with out any issues. About 3 days back the symptoms started and today they are constant! I have had mri, ct scan, told by neurologist that there is nothing wrong in any way that would lead to concerns. Yet, still happens. I can do stuff like wash car or cleaning but when I get still or subtle things, it’s very intense. I ware motion sickness patches, I’m seeing a chiropractor for military neck issues which they say can cause cervical dizziness. Of all this, your video just gave me some peace!

[@yamilehmoreno7165]

Such a great video and super helpful. After 2 years of doing my own research on Mdds, I believe in everything you mentioned here. I am so happy to have found you and now be working with you. I am getting closer to my healing!!

[@TheSteadyCoach]

[@kathryncollins8708]

Wow, this almost brings me to tears to read this! Mine began in 1982...

[@faridasheikh395]

Plz if get back to your life then plz shear with us i have lost my life with this problam some time i fill that i will commet suside becoz i have lost all hope in my life that it will be dispear in life

[@loveconquersall143]

What did you do? This bloody thing is making me suicidal, seriously! 😞

[@allievance8840]

@@faridasheikh395 related to this comment hope your doing better hang in there ❤️

[@smarterthanawaffle]

I have MDDS. This is my sixth year. I took a very long airplane flight and i feel like i never got off of that airplane. I have classic symptoms and spent 10 days with the space doctors at Mt. Sinai Manhattan trying to get some relief. They put me in machines and slung me around and blew air into my ears until i puked. It was fun to play with the astronaut docs, but i have never gotten better. It is exhausting.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

I am so sorry you’re going through this. I talk about MdDS a lot on my channel because people who receive that diagnosis are given no hope or actionable advice. I have a few folks in my membership community and coaching clients who are recovering from this and I can’t wait to interview them to share their stories.

[@mustlee4407]

@@TheSteadyCoach exactly like mine. mdds (feeling of floating, blurred vision, like walking on a boat) dr. yo can help me to heal. what do I have to do. Thank You. greetings from Indonesia

[@martywallace5042]

Thank you for your MDDS views on WHY. In all the years I have had MDDS ,8 total no one ever said anything about the why. I am 85 years old, lived on boats for 15 years then moved to land and MDDS started. I will take your course on stress and believe that unexpressed emotions and issues of the past need to be released. Just hearing that has helped already. I have done many of the exercises for mdds with a therapist in Denver which did help. Some of the triggers have been better until last week when the swaying became worse again. So never give up keep searching and I found you with the WHY

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Marty, I loved reading your comment, though I am so sorry to hear about the years of suffering you went through. I think that just understanding that this is just a brain interpretation error is immensely helpful to people. I hope you enjoy the course! Please consider sharing your thoughts on it at the end- there is a survey at the end of the course that you can fill out!

[@vincentvega3747]

How are you doing?

[@putzytart]

This is very interesting. I recently went on a cruise ship for 4 days and have not retained my balance and it is starting to really concern me. I suffer heavily from work stress. I run a business on my own and work crazy hours sometimes 100 hour weeks and also have suffered most of my adult life with anxiety as well as IBS. I'm going to get straight into trying to relieve my stress and anxiety along with trying your VOR exercises and hopefully my rocking dizziness will go away. It's super annoying and the more I think about it the more it gets worse!

[@TheSteadyCoach]

I think you will see changes in your symptoms once you start implementing some of these changes!

[@vincentvega3747]

How are you doing?

[@cathleenvanwinkle5159]

THANK YOU Dr. Arthur.. YOU (not the many other doctors I've seen) helped me. You spoke the truth about vestibular migraines, provided the tools to relieve symptoms, and answered all the many questions. I will always be grateful.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

You're very welcome, Cathleen! It is truly my privilege to be able to help!

[@jgoodygoods512]

Excellent and informative video! Especially for people like me who have been diagnosed with spontaneous onset, persistent MdDS. I appreciate your in-depth analysis as a practitioner in getting to the bottom of all the pathology of MdDS on all angles. Thank you so much! I truly the psycho social factors of contemporary society and constant over stimulation is a HUGE factor in all of this.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Awesome, so glad my perspective resonates with you. I totally respect people who take a more biological approach but there are so many limitations to a narrow biological-only approach.

[@eshghedelameshghedelam1727]

May I know how it started for you? Was it like a vertigo Attack and headache together?

[@julilla1]

Obviously very late on this, but thank you. I got MDdS following a viral inner ear infection which caused extreme vertigo for about 12 hours. 2 MRIs later, my neurologist just shrugs and says there's nothing they can do. After 3 years, it's mostly better, but I still can't sleep on my right side and I still struggle a bit, though nothing terrible anymore. It's so frustrating to overbalance and have to catch myself still, or to not move my head too quickly. I know you talk about stress, but the stress of just having this is immense.

[@paulaspagnuolo8285]

While MDDS doesn’t describe my situation I can see the symptom patterns on many vestibular issues overlap and it’s helpful to hear you discuss the nuances.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

I think it can really throw people off when they don't hear me explicitly describe their symptoms. But yes- the cycle looks completely familiar, doesn't it!

[@k.baller5140]

Isn't stress part or anxiety... Isn't that why some people have had success with Ssri or Klonopin antidepressant tranqualizes the nerves to treat or keep mdds symptoms low. I'm happy you're focusing on this nightmare condition for us... I'm too scared to try the stripe pattern alone because it might make things worse. I'm battling everyday for the past month, just walking 10 hours for relief so I don't have to feel the rocking

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Yes, definitely- stress plays a big role in anxiety. Klonopin is a vestibular suppressant so it actually turns down the action of the vestibular system temporarily. SSRIs can help with the underlying stress and and anxiety, which can help stop the cycle. My view is that SSRIs still don't fully address the source- it's important to deal with the emotions and trauma that have caused the stress in the first place- but they can be incredibly helpful in managing the anxiety to get over the hump.

[@vickiosgood7520]

I want to first THANK YOU for this video and I think you are SPOT ON for every facet of MdDS. I stepped off my 29th cruise 3 years ago and within 48 hours began experiencing full blown MdDS symptoms. I believe I also suffered after my 19th cruise but did not know it was MdDS, I thought it was a stuffy ear and symptoms were off and on for 6 months. Both cruises I was on a lower deck in a cove balcony and it seemed I was right at the water and it would make me dizzy/ I stopped going on the balcony. I have read thousands of pages and watched hundreds of videos and I’m actually shocked that you described everything exactly correct about this syndrome. Being a sufferer we do not see many people who completely understand. When I am confronted with a stressful situation I will immediately begin to rock and sway more. How bad I rock or sway is greatly affected by how I react to symptoms. If I calm myself down I can greatly diminish them. If I keep my mind busy I almost forget I have MdDS. Standing still is my most difficult task. I can sit and lay easily as I have learned how to react. Of course the car is wonderful. A few weird facts- if I’m the driver for a full week my symptoms are a little amplified right when I get out of the car but then almost non existent. If I move hangers to the right I am fine, my eyes do not “like” them going to the left. If I turn my head to an exaggerated down I rock more. If I drink alcohol (less stress) almost non existent but worse the next day. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart- to be seen and heard is absolutely priceless!

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Oh Vicki, thank you so much for these kind words and for sharing your successes. That means a lot to me. I know people who suffer from these symptoms have a particularly difficult time getting support. I see a lot of hopelessness and pain among people who have this diagnosis, and it is awful to me that they are not given support and information on the psychosocial (stress etc) causes and elements of the symptoms. That is the purpose of the video. I’m so glad you’ve seen success changing your reactions to the symptoms and can comfortably sit and lie down now!

[@revaholic]

Thank you so much for this excellent video. I started experiencing MdDS symptoms two months ago...it was during a stressful exam period but I cannot shake the rocking since. My symptoms are very much brought on by computer use which is hard to avoid. I also think that from previous illnesses, my sympathetic nervous system gets stimulated easily. I nearly cried when you said you think this is due to repressed emotions. I also feel the rocking and swaying when I eat or have a bowel movement...anytime my nervous system fires up. I feel this video may be the first step in understanding what is going on.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

I am so glad that this video resonated with you! Please feel free to check out my free course on healing chronic dizziness as well. All of my recommendations and techniques are condensed in this course. thesteadycoach.com/free-course You can do this!

[@Ella-fv4hm]

I believe I have MDDS. I’m haven’t gone to a doctor yet because I am travelling, but a little over a week ago I got off a ferry in Greece and haven’t stopped feeling like I was rocking on a boat since. My mom was telling me I was probably dehydrated, but after day 4 she believed me. It’s so frustrating because it makes me tired and dizzy in this hot weather and it’s ruined my vacation. Im always grateful to be on a bus or in a taxi because I don’t feel the swaying anymore. I’m not sure if it’s related, but I’ve also had this weird headache and I’m struggling to be out in the sun even with sunglasses due to the light. I plan on going to see my doctor when I’m home next week if it still persists to confirm that I have MDDS.

[@stephanieeusse]

Hi Yolit. I need to thank you for your videos. They give me peace of mind. I've had chronic dizziness for two months. It never goes away. I'm very afraid to have these symptoms forever. I can't see well and that's the reason why I can't work, since I'm a graphic designer and an artist... That has been the worst part of my illness. I feel so stressed and sad. Thank you for your help. I hope to get fully recover someday.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Thank you for trusting me with your healing, Stephanie! ❤ This is not the way it will always be.

[@parijatacharbonneau4090]

Thank you SO SO MUCH . I have been living with this condition for over five years or more. I have seen so many specialists and so far nobody has been able to really help me, i have been diagnose as suffering of chronic exhaustion, having vestibular migraines.. post head trauma (i had a very bad car accidents, amnesia, causing neck issues) taking some anti depressants not really because of being depressed but i guess anxiety that definitely triggers the condition. I have to say it has helped, and not working for months (because of the pandemic) has also helped. All these diagnostics are somewhat relevant. But this summer after a 12 hours car ride the symptoms kick in seriously… and yesterday i decided to use an old oxyciser for 15 minutes, an apparatus that moves the legs while lying down… and the MDds symptoms kick in right away. I never heard about MDds before this morning… just putting a name on it helps me relax and understand better. And i think there is a trigger that awakes past trauma. Your channel is so helpfull i will definitely go through your videos. I am a therapeutic yoga teacher and body worker for thirty years, so will also share your channel. Sorry for this long comment. But this condition is difficult i feel for all those people out there suffering from these isolating and disabling conditions. Thank you and have a long life, may you be of benefit for a long time 🙏

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Thank you for your kind words, Parijata. I am so glad that you found this channel ❤

[@BoPoulsenAtTown]

Very interesting. I have spontaneous onset MDDS for 15 years. Stress is certainly a trigger i think but not sure how much. I have tried to analyze when I’m stressed and when not to see how it affects me. But as you say it’s tough to pinpoint stress a lot of times. One area that needs more research as well i think is the biological component. In several groups on MdDS i have seen people go into remission after finding other infections in their bodies. I am currently seeing how a recurring tooth infection could have impacted me. I was in the hospital this past summer for a severe bladder infection and placed on heavy liquid antibiotics. Interestingly my MdDS went from an 8 to a 3. In December i had the tooth removed and will have the wisdom tooth below removed in 12 months. But my symptoms have been considerably better than the past 3 years. So while nothing conclusive i am somewhat optimistic for a change as the past 3-4 years have been hell. I live in Brooklyn but work a lot on Manhattan, being in crowded areas is still a trigger. Which could follow more to what you are saying. Maybe there are multiple components at play and when they come together they form the perfect storm and create MdDS. But thank you for being out there “brainstorming” new ideas and approaches!!

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Super interesting perspective, thank you for sharing! I think of "stress" like ingredients that go into a soup. Many different things can be stress- emotional things that I talk about are one example. A true recurrent infection can also definitely be stress on the body. All those ingredients together can cause the pot to overflow, leading to symptoms. It's never just one thing- there is always a biological component, the big mystery is how much of that "ingredient" there is in the soup. Purists on the psychophysiological side of things would say that the body is suffering from recurrent infection due to emotional stress, but you're right, there is no clear cut answer because we really just don't know! I have found that people suffering from MdDS-type symptoms get better from emotional work, but that is also a very heterogeneous group, and "soup ingredients" are different for each person.

[@eshghedelameshghedelam1727]

May I know how it started for you? Was it like a vertigo attack and headache together?

[@rohitchavan8061]

When I am having infection feaver and on antibiotics my mdds goes away but after that comes when I recover from infection...I have observed this many times...

[@kathygreen6043]

Would the converse study be to measure the masses who have lots of emotional baggage with no vestibular disorders? That would be interesting and informative as well. I have pppd from Menierre's along with 24-7 tinnitus and migraine vertigo. I have told the doctors for years that my eyes, ears, and brain aren't working together, long before You Tube existed. I have mentioned before, this all started with a thyroid pill overdose/storm. The emotions started after this disabling and permanently damaging event. Probably now a vicious bio, psycho, social cycle. Going to physical and psychological therapy was a comfort but not a cure. Your channel has been more helpful than any intervention I have had over 33 plus years. Having the correct information interrupts the psycho emotional cycle of discouragement and blaming of self. It is true for vestibular disorders as well, that "knowledge is power." Not a cure when the ear is damaged, but certainly the best hope for a meaningful life and very good medicine for the brain. Thanks so much.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Kathy, what a great suggestion! The answer is... we have some of those studies. People with a lot of trauma are MANY times more likely to experience a whole range of physical symptoms, including IBS, chronic pain, etc.

[@MichaelHplus]

Sounds like what you’re saying is in alignment with what I’ve learned about TMS (the mindbody syndrome) and Dr Sarno’s work. Regardless, it has the ring of truth and it’s very interesting that your clinical experience lead you to that conclusion.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Oh yes, neural circuit dizziness is essentially a TMS equivalent! I don't take the exact approach of Dr. Sarno but I am heavily influenced by his work, as well as many of his "intellectual descendants!"

[@jgoodygoods512]

I am one of the “super rare” cases as you mention that developed MdDS without a specific critical motion induced incident like a long boat ride or car ride that triggered chronic MdDS. There is emerging research that another dizzy disorder of genetic origin called VESTIBULAR MIGRAINE is a comorbidity with MdDS. Many people with the genetic disposition to have this rare type of migraine that also impacts the vestibular systems (especially in a chronic form) are more likely to spontaneously develop MdDS. So if you feel rocking but also symptoms of vestibular migraine you might consult a neurologist so you can more aggressively treat your condition with medication, lifestyle changes as migraine is considered “the root of all evil” that could be what is keeping your MdDS in a chronic state rather than it going into remission or it clearing on its own like it does for most people. I hope this makes sense and helps someone!

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi there, thank you for sharing this very interesting perspective for others to see! There is an interesting link between these symptoms and migraines. I have a bit of a different perspective on dealing with migraines than neurologists (as you mentioned in your other comment, I'm on Team Psychosocial), but I am in favor of whatever treatment options helps someone feel better.

[@tknows470]

I got MdDS after a trip which included a long plane ride and riding in a boat, and it went away after watching a different video by Dr. Yoni. I went on a longer trip a year later without any issues.I just returned from a trip and I’m having a recurrence.

[@diekaninchenbande6849]

Ich hatte das erste mal vor 5 Jahren nach einer Kreuzfahrt 5 Wochen MDDS. Jetzt habe ich es seit 7 Wochen, nach einer Fährüberfahrt wieder. Ich denke schon, dass auch Stress eine Rolle spielt. Ich war vor dem Urlaub beruflich sehr gestresst. Anfangs habe ich versucht es zu ignorieren, da ich es ja bereits kannte, dann ist aber noch mehr Stress dazu gekommen und die Symptome haben sich verstärkt und ich war auch psychisch völlig fertig. Ich hoffe es ist bald vorbei. Deine Videos sind sehr hilfreich.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Ich danke dir sehr. Ich bin so froh, dass meine Videos hilfreich waren! Bitte verzeihen Sie meine Übersetzung - ich verwende Google Translate.

[@sallyanderson1328]

I seem to get this after long car rides. Optometrist thought it was binocular dysfunction and ended up with prism glasses. Not sure this is problem. Drove and rode 4 days to Florida. No major issue s but now on drive home am struggling. I think coming home I have many more stressor going on than trip down. This video really makes sense.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Sally, I am sorry you’re going through this! I think BVD is used as a scapegoat when it’s rarely the cause of chronic dizziness.

[@sarahyao9782]

I suffer from this as one, of many, symptoms from a spinal csf leak, which causes intracranial hypotension. In the support group I’m a part of for csf leaks it’s a very common symptom. (Usually there is a host of other symptoms to go along with it). Just thought I’d share that information with you.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Sarah, yes, thank you, these symptoms can indeed be caused by medical issues. My channel is devoted to people whose medical testing revealed no abnormalities and who have medically unexplained symptoms. I hope you are able to get relief from your symptoms.

[@sarahyao9782]

@@TheSteadyCoach thanks for the response! Well, I am going to try the things you suggest anyway since I haven’t tried these specific things before, to see if they’ll help. Unfortunately the csf leak has not been able to be fixed despite many blood patches and surgery.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

The wonderful thing is that relaxation, breathing and being kind to ourselves/feeling our emotions is free and won't hurt anyone. it is sure worth a try. I have had patients who had true underlying medical causes to their symptoms still get relief from them using these methods.

[@aprilragsdell2846]

Does a brain mri detect csf leak? Or does one need additional tests such as lumbar puncture? Thanks!

[@justjack0715]

My rare case of MdDS began after a non stop 7 day vertigo attack ending with me in the hospital. The doctor said because of the length of my attack it was like being on a ship in a storm. That makes sense.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

I'm so sorry that happened to you.

[@lex_hayes]

That's me... My crazy rocking side to side and up and down and my drunken swaying stumbling walk and just my body swaying all the time was been identified as almost textbook Mal de Debarquement Syndrome except for one thing I HAVE BEEN ON A BOAT OR PLANE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT ALL. I just started one day and has kept getting worse and worse that can't go out without a walking stick. I'm 41 caucasian female.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

I'm sorry that happened to you. Many people have this start without movement as a trigger. I see this a lot. Please watch to learn more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYTXiWWMrLJsjbs

[@celina5324]

I have a swaying feeling, when I stand still I feel like the ground is moving and my heart flutters a little because of that and my feet hurts very badly at night… every test is coming back normal … so grateful for ur channel.. it’s so frustrating been dealing with it for 3 months now I’m just 21… I wish I can get this fixed😊

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Celina, I know that this can be frustrating, but I do believe that this can get better. Please check out my free course if you haven't already thesteadycoach.com/free-course

[@sharonchemugo6848]

Hey how is it at the moment?

[@wildfrontiergoods]

Very interesting. I was diagnosed with MD and pppd….however I have always found vrt to be very easy. I can exercise without a major problem and actually do jiu jitsu about 5 days a week. My problem is staying still. When I am not in motion I feel the swaying/moving symptoms…. If I have MDds and not pppd then I developed it without going on a cruise. It was 1000% due to stress

[@debbielynnsmellowminutesme7909]

I have this . I just saw what this was called and listen to your video. I’ve had it for years I think but worsen just after a recent surgery. I couldn’t figure out why I felt like I’m constantly walking on a boat . I kept telling people why does it feel I’m on a boat . The why helps me so much . I have ptsd too and I think there’s other things too like jaw pain , stress , right it’s not fake . I think going back to my acupuncture and do some yoga I felt so much better when I was constantly doing my yoga and my tai chi . I have some cross over my bad ear pain from a bad flu and all adds up I’ve been on planes and boats too . All adds up I suppose maybe now I know it’s not in my head 😂 I not going to be scared of it .

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Yes, you are on the right track. You can do this!

[@loveconquersall143]

This happened to me after years of domestic violence, then a few years after that I tore my ACL (I had 2 surgeries), then I went on to my exercise bike to rehab the knee (the up and down motion). It was SO weird. This has absolutely ruined my life 😭 - then my partner/carer died suddenly & alone sitting on my bed. I REALLY need my life back! 😞 xo You are incredible! I really need to do your stress relieving stuff. Thank YOU so much for this 🙏😘 Oh, I'm also going to try the stellate ganglion injection as well because somebody I know with mdds had it and it really helped to decrease her symptoms she said. She said she went from a 10 to a 1! 🤞 PS I have a really wobbly head too & feel like I'm going to faint all the time. This is accompanied with neck pain as well. Can you tell me, is mdds causing that as well...? ^

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi there. Goodness, it sounds like you have so many reasons why your nervous system is in this state. I am so very sorry to hear about these awful experiences. I want you to know it makes COMPLETE sense that you would have difficult symptoms after going through all that. Regarding the wobbly head, I have a video on cervicogenic dizziness that talks about this- kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5vXZ2p3l5uLh5o

[@loveconquersall143]

​@@TheSteadyCoach Thank you so much. You are so very kind and considerate! Thanks for helping so many people 🙏 I will check out that video now... 😉 This thing is utterly exhausting x

[@SRo3]

Hi! Currently dealing with my 3rd bout of MdDS. I'm currently trying the vistublar exercise from your other video (and thank you thank you 🙏🏼♥️ for posting that, the last time I had it the first ENT didnt think I had that and finding a neurologist was impossible. I got placed with a ocular surgeon by mistake but he recognized the symptoms and agreed but had no help or exercises for me. Thankfully it went away after a couple of months). In my experience there were some stressful factors associated with trigger of my MdDS (always while in a travel situation, airplane twice and car now, but NEVER from a boat. I dont necessary think that independent stress triggers it without the additional movement stimuli. Let me know if you want to offline further about it. Maybe can provide further insight in your work.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi there, I'm glad to hear you're getting a handle on what's been going on for you. "Stress" is a pretty big word that can encompass many things. Many of my folks do not initially report feeling specific stress at the time their symptoms started (although many of them uncover it with some investigation), but by diffusing the fear of their symptoms and resolving "unfinished emotional business" they recover. This approach does not resonate with everyone, but it seems very effective for those for whom it does!

[@dinahsoar6982]

If MdDS is pyschosocial why do the symptoms go away when riding in a car, or other passive motion?

[@bromate1]

This is the one I have mdds I know the feeling of the constant dizzyness this effect my travel

[@TheSteadyCoach]

You are not alone!

[@Lmf435]

Does anyone else see things moving no matter what, wether it’s sitting, laying, standing or walking?

[@dinahsoar6982]

I can feel my low pitched roaring like Niagara Falls/train engine idling tinnitus and I don't hear it in either ear..it's in my head......however I cannot feel my high pitched tinnitus that I hear in my right ear. Why is that?

[@JasonLeavey]

Just want to say thank you for helping so many people. I got off a cruise and was very dizzy for ten days after. A month after I recovered, I did a rollercoaster and felt it come right back for 20 days of dizziness and swaying. Any idea if that seems like MdDS? My whole life I got dizzy after getting off elevators or in enclosed places, so it's so hard to know. My PT confirmed my vestibular system is weak because when I look side to side too quickly for too long, it can retrigger a dizziness episode.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

It sounds like neural circuit dizziness for sure. MdDS is just a particular subtype that involves constant rocking. When your brain has a “circuit” for the symptoms, it can reactivate them in response to movement triggers, but what keeps them going is perceived danger in the brain.

[@joannaq659]

Great video. Do you also specifically help clients with the psychophysiological piece? And, what therapies do you recommend besides CBT? Just curious which modalities you like for dizzy patients.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Yes, whole video on stress coming out in a few weeks! And yes I very specifically help people with the psychophysiological piece in my own one on one work. Instead of CBT, I recommend modalities that are specifically centered on mindbody principles- the major difference between them being that CBT assumes that people need to cope with permanent symptoms, whereas mindbody approaches assume people can actually recover from symptoms. These approaches include (but are not limited to): pain reprocessing therapy, emotional awareness and expression therapy, intensive short term dynamic psychotherapy. Edited to add: i talk a lot more about this in my membership community since we have much live interactive seminars where we can really dissect this stuff better than I can in a KZbin video.

[@joannaq659]

@@TheSteadyCoach Thank you so much for clarification

[@kathryncollins8708]

@@TheSteadyCoach What about flying monkeys? I have a daughter with 3 kids who will not talk to me or let me see her kids since I left her (covert narcissist) father after 35 years of marriage... This seems to me like a "permanent symptom" because she and the kids are always on my heart and mind. When I try to talk to her, she thinks I've done things I haven't done and she will not agree to talking with a counselor present etc. If she was not my daughter, I could write her off completely... Maybe I need to anyway. That is what everyone says. But then I still need to "deal" with other family members mentioning her from time to time, which is their very right to do and which I totally respect.

[@janiceince1965]

@@TheSteadyCoach can you post your website to contact you for one on one? I'm a member of your community but can't find the number or email to contact you for one on one

[@Miraofficial]

6 years here. No stop. Following a cruis and an air flight. Had periods of low symptoms but never full remission. Now 6 years later since the middle of january, symptoms full force 10/10. Can barely walk and everyday task is a nightmare. Evene staying at bed is a nightmare. This is hell kn earth. Please someone help me I am totally lost and in desperation

[@shelveswithstories13]

How are you doing?

[@PedroRodas-y1w]

Just got off a cruise 3 weeks ago and the swaying comes and go, this means I have this too Looking for answers

[@TheSteadyCoach]

It's normal to have land sickness for a few weeks- just know your brain can adapt to this.

[@JRey-re9rl]

Hi, Dr. Yo. I wanted to ask, my saying happens primarily when I’m sitting still and lying down. So, would you still characterize that as MdDS? My symptoms appeared four months after an initial vertigo attack, after I got sick with Covid. My symptoms have gotten better with nervous system work and vestibular rehabilitation, but still persists and cause difficulties.

[@iviec.3784]

Just got off a cruise a week ago and dealing with this. Anyone else feel like their body is trying to hold itself up in the wrong directions, basically trying to correct for the phantom sway and making yourself sore? My upper mid back and left leg are very, very sore and I feel like its because they are trying to compensate for a sway that does not exist.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

When I see this, I typically think of those symptoms as part of the whole MdDS symptoms group. Yes, I often see muscular pain with this.

[@MissSandralicious]

I’m always looking for a breakthrough for this disorder. I have had this since I’m 21 years old and at 40 it’s getting worse. I wish there was a fix for this.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

There is no easy fix. But recovery is possible.

[@BlessedKarma10]

I have these symptoms that also overlap with PPPD. I am fine in a car and is the only time I feel normal. I did go on a short plane ride (2.5 hours), six weeks before symptoms started, but I dont think it was the flight, but the reason I was flying (emotional trip back home 18 months after my mum passed and covid restrictions did not allow me to do so beforehand and I missed her funeral). I have been doing the VRT and most of them do not help, apart from the balance exercises. I feel like I have wasted months living with this because I was being fed misinformation and in a lot of cases no information. Thank God for your channel Dr Yoni.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Keep going! You can do this!

[@candiguillet-rm5ic]

For the first nine months of my chronic dizziness i only had symptoms when I was moving my body, but as long as I was sitting still or driving I felt normal. My ENT suggested i had PPPD. My symptoms began with pain pressure( balloon feeling in ear) and tinnitus, however all MRI, testing and imaging was normal. I went out on a boat for the afternoon and that seemed to change everything. After that boat ride my symptoms became persistent one hundred percent of the time. I now have the sensation of rocking, swaying, bobbing for the past 7 months regardless if im moving or sitting or laying still. The symptoms in my ear also still persist every second of every day. Because i never have relief i am constantly in "fight or flight" and unable to escape the fear because the symptoms are constant. Do i have PPPD? Or MDDS? Or both?

[@TheSteadyCoach]

These will help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ6zfJyFlpyJh5o and kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJSbqq15eZKsY7c

[@thundergirl6518]

What about the possibility that the Autonomic Nervous system has major involvement? Do you have any knowledge on this top with central vestibular disorder?

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Yes! When I talk about the brain being in “danger mode,” what I mean is that it is in sympathetic arousal aka the autonomic nervous system is dysregulated. This is pretty much universal with neural circuit dizziness.

[@rachellehodge8427]

Thank you for these videos! Ive had this sensation of being on a boat only when I am still for over a year following a spinal tap gone wrong. My neurologist said my small lesion in medulla could cause dizziness but not headaches, which I also suffer from daily almost. Working with vestibular therapist and I couldn't believe when she said could be because of stress and anxiety. Watching your videos has also helped clarify why this is possible. I am in therapy and started your workbook as well. Have you by chance had anyone with a lesion in brainstem have success in recovering by dealing with stress? My symptoms started a couple years after finding lesion, after traumatic L.P. and I am wondering if that caused this instead.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Rachelle, my general view is that traumatic medical events can cause your nervous system to stay hyperalert, and often physical abnormalities have nothing to do with why symptoms are persisting. Nowhere is this clearer than in chronic back pain- most people have bulging or compressed discs, but most of them have no pain.

[@rachellehodge8427]

@@TheSteadyCoach yes I also have chronic back pain too which explains a lot. Thank you for replying, it means a lot :) Im continuing your class and workbook as well!

[@dianeulicsni1556]

Great great super helpful

[@maryam4358]

Thank you ! That will be very helpful for treatment. I was also told my the ENT doctor that my symptoms are also related to the headaches migraine’s. He is suggesting supplements if it mights solve the problems. Any ideas ? Any suggestions what to ask my doctors? I have a referral for vistuplar therapy also

[@Hamadani]

A month before came out of the lift from a three storey building, and thats where and when i started to feel a magnetic force driving me forward and nausea. A month after visiting almost 6 doctors, taking a ton of medicines, and various blood, audio tests and MRI, everyone is clueless including me about why my symptoms are not going away. While the magnetic force is gone, the swaying, bobbing is still there and not resolving. I get anxiety, hopelessness that i might never recover. I have stopped driving because it gives me a feeling of sliding forward on the driver's seat while I am not. All this has happened, after a year of Acid Reflux caused by H-pylori but prolonged and chronic Acid Reflux and Covid infection just before 2 months or more. I was overweight and diagnosed with a Grade 2 Fatty Liver, which forced me to go on a crash diet, stopping sugar, salt, oil and carbs at once and a lot of swimming, light weight lifting (already was diagnosed with a lumbar herniated disc) and occasional jogging... Any suggestions would be welcome ...

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Syed, what a mess, I am so very sorry to hear what you are going through. Many of my clients have incidental findings like yours- fatty liver disease, etc. While we certainly want your body and brain as healthy as possible, those diagnoses do not explain your symptoms (as your doctors have stated). My main question to you would be- what else has been going on in your life beside these health problems? Most people end up with these symptoms after significant life stress. In my opinion, working on that is the most important thing you can do. Please consider my course- it is 100% free at thesteadycoach.com/free-course and I will be releasing an update with more guidance on emotional components in the next couple of months.

[@Hamadani]

@@TheSteadyCoach Turns out i am a very sensitive person. I take things to heart very easily and get extremely emotional about things, arguments, disagreements etc. Add to it, I have been under tremendous stress since the last 3 years, upto the point of getting emotionally numb when things didn't work out in personal relationships. The result is continuous and extreme stress levels. I became an emotional wreck since last some years but the time i developed balance issues recently was one when i had started to detox or lets say, "i put on a working out to be happy and stressfree mode." It was going on well when suddenly this balance and dizziness issue happened. May be my mind didn't expect such a rapid change. Still wondering !!!

[@shelveswithstories13]

Hi, how are you doing now?​@@Hamadani

[@Hamadani]

@@shelveswithstories13 feeling better, the symptoms went off after i was diagnosed with Vestibular Neuritis by an audiologist. She said it is perhaps the onset of the infection that weakened the balanced system in my inner ear. The moment she gave a diagnosis half of the stress, anxiety and frustration went off, it took some days for the symptoms to go off completely. I do get symptoms rarely, particularly when i am in overexposed rooms or settings but eventually they resolve by themselves in a second or two

[@monicaz4949]

My disorientation, balance and brain pressure are severely worse when the weather changes. Is that really something fixable? It feels like intracranial hypertension.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Yes! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaW8iJ96e9B5oK8si=4T5Jr2JxZax-7Kdo

[@arturoortiz1251]

I think I got mdds since december. The dizziness is gone, also brainfog and desrealization. The only symptoms that remains are the swaying, feeling like the ground is moving (specially whe I go off of my car). I can walk without any problem, but is just the feeling, specially in enclosed spaces. Can it be by stress too? I am happy that dizziness is gone, but is really annoying and sometimes scary feeling off of balance. Arturo, from Mexico

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Arturo, so sorry to hear you still have symptoms. Yes, very much could be stress that is keeping those types of symptoms going. Many people I work with have those feelings.

[@mmadavey]

I am feeling the same way. Inside spaces trigger it worse than being outside in the open with less reference points for my eyes. Walking around in my house or in grocery stores with narrow isles is where I feel it the worse.

[@NancyFosterLouise]

Thank you so much!

[@TheSteadyCoach]

You are so welcome!

[@roannarego4754]

You did an awesome job explaining this! Recently for the past month I was having lightheadedness shortness of breath blurry vision etc due to an allergic reaction which I just discovered and stopped consuming. Now the symptoms of lightheadedness and shortness of breath is getting better however since I have been in a dizzy motion for over a month with all these symptoms my body continues to sway when standing still. Do you think I would benefit from VRT sessions?

[@TheSteadyCoach]

I am so sorry you’re experiencing this! There is no reason to do VRT unless you have a sign of vestibular issues that are provoked by motion. Having constant sensations of movement can happen for some people but I rarely recommend exercises for them- I address the nervous system response.

[@nicolettevajtay9423]

Hi Dr. Arthur - if you happen to be checking these comments, I have a quick question. I know you can't diagnose but maybe you can guide me? My symptoms are definitely bobbing UP AND DOWN since disembarking from a very uncomfortable cruise on choppy seas. I have a definite pull UP - so I wonder if I should be looking at the stripes moving DOWN rather than left to right? I have been doing the exercise for a day (about 6 times) with the stripes moving to the left, because I can feel a little more pull from the right, but wonder if the downward movement of stripes would give me a better result. The symptoms have been constant for about a month and I'm slowly falling into a depression. I see a PT next week. Many many many thanks. Nicolette

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Nicolette! The study authors didn’t comment on the bobbing type movement so unfortunately I can’t give you good guidance about that. The way I work with clients is addressing the psychosocial components so I don’t differentiate between the different types of movement in my clients. I hope you get good guidance and support from your visit!

[@nicolettevajtay9423]

@@TheSteadyCoach Ah interesting. I hope they may include that in a future study because it's quite definitively an upward bobbing, and of course, coming down too. I am getting some relief from watching the stripes move to the left, thankfully. I"m starting day three. I also wonder if the speed of the stripes matters. I have three speeds on my app - slow, medium, and fast. I'll check out your other videos too. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this amazing information with us/me. I'm so grateful. Nicolette

[@PaulaRosenberg-yi7xj]

I too went to Mt. Sinai and saw Sergei, I did get some relief. Maybe it was just a source of hope but it relieved some stress - I finally had something I could do to help myself. I also bob up and down and he used stripes going up and down for me. The stripes going down seemed to work best. I would also like to say I agree stress is also a contributor and I'm working to alleviate that. I've had this 3 or 4 times (not sure if it ever went away on the 3rd time) but is a little worse now. Trying to figure out how to alleviate stress and deal with the things that cause my stress. This seems to help.

[@Maxtvpk55]

Please tell me how can i call you i want to talk to you?

[@faridasheikh395]

Plz mem make the vidro on how use this straipes i cant undarstand from your privious video plz make the detail video plz i am suffar from 2 years

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Farida. This is the video on the stripes 5 Minutes of Vestib: Optokinetic Head Roll Exercise for MDDS kzbin.info/www/bejne/eF6Weoelms6oa5I but I’d recommend looking at the course in the video description for my other methods, which are not exercises.

[@velsieguevarra7355]

Thanks 🙏

[@Judi4Him4Ever]

Two weeks after my AN surgery, severing of my vestibular nerve and resulting disequilibrium, we spent 9 hours on the road returning home. I’m wondering if MdDs could have developed from that long car ride. Going on three years now, and just as off-kilter now as then. I should add that we had personal extremely stressful events before, during and after my AN surgery. (Addictions, homelessness, a felony arrest, mental illness hospitalizations among our kids; a sister who committed suicide, a house fire that destroyed our home, losing my mom, new cancer diagnosis for my husband - all within just five years). TRAUMA. Thoughts?

[@TheSteadyCoach]

I wouldn't worry about the car ride. A car ride might have given your brain a "template" to work with (see this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ6zfJyFlpyJh5o) but it doesn't matter what template your brain is using if you're dizzy. What matters is resolving the cause of the danger mode.

[@lindamiller726]

Gosh, I'm just not sure what I have yet. I sway and rock physically, not mentally. I close my eyes and my balance goes left as if I could fall over but never do. I sway much the same way. I can get dizzy by turning my head, looking down or up, and car rides make me extremely off balance once my feet hit the ground. A lot of times I'm confused and fatigued. I can't lay flat to sleep and every night I must sleep propped up and I can still feel strange. I'm exhausted from worry. I shift my eyes from left to right and that gives me all kinds of symptoms and not the fun kind. I have tinnitus most days. I'm anxious for sure. Worry about most things. I had vertigo over 10 years ago and many tests through the years with no real resolution. I have been diagnosed with BVD (binocular visual disorder) and I basically wear very expensive glasses with prisms. No real relief outside the headaches and tension I had before. Unfortunately, these are only a few of the symptoms... HELP! Dr. Yo ❤️.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

The more symptoms someone has, the more likely it is that the person has neural circuit issues. It sounds like you are in the right place. I’d highly recommend the course! It’s free! thesteadycoach.com/free-course

[@bigguymayfield3429]

Dr Gates has a good video on his channel that describes some reasons of the why ? I have followed him for a couple of yrs. Have had mine for going on five yrs now

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Thank you for the recommendation! I’m sorry to hear you’ve been suffering for so long.

[@natalieturner2914]

Thank you for this video it makes me feel really heard. In 2018 I flew to China from Texas and I felt like I was rocking and swaying for months afterward. In China I went to multiple doctors who told me I was crazy. I haven’t really felt the feeling again until very recently when I was on a boat for scuba diving. Ever since I have felt the rockiness and I’m finally going to see a doctor, do you have recommendations of which specialists to see? Thank you

[@TheSteadyCoach]

It's a good idea to see a neurotologist who has experience with helping people with these conditions. You can check out the dizzy.com directory for locations that have people trained in more complex dizziness. However, you almost certainly have neural circuit dizziness based on your description.

[@jesss727]

Ik ben een stressvol persoon, en sta bijna elke dag onder stress. Ik ga nu naar een chiropractor die zegt dat ik minder stress moet hebben, en dat doe ik. Maar ik merk als zodra ik stress heb dat ik het gevoel heb dat ik in een storm zit, als mezelf relaxed is het een stuk kalmer.

[@jesss727]

Maar ik was minder dan 48 op een schip, was denk 16 uur heen dag op land en 16 uur terug. Heb ik nu grotere kans om mdds te krijgen als het weg gaat als ik een vliegtuig zit?

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Jessica, yes, stress is VERY connected to these symptoms. When someone has had these symptoms, any kind of motion can make the brain think "you're in danger" and then turn on symptoms. That said, if you address the underlying cause of danger mode- stress, emotions- then your brain will be less likely to assume you are in danger.

[@prajaktapawar7280]

I feel so unsteady like u can't name it as dizzy feeling but its worst I can't explain exactly what i feel because the symptoms change very often , i have 24/7 unsteadiness when i change head positions i feel weird stiffness in my head and ears just can't do my daily tasks and it just sucks mentally . Don't know how long this symptoms last but i have been dealing it over a year now. Been to various docs after doing vestibular evaluation they said u have otolith dysfunction and from vertigo episodes u have landed up in pppd .

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Sounds a lot like what we talk about here.

[@Freedom2Roam.]

Thank you 🙏 You say ‘ Internal Rocking’ but if I stand in front of a mirror I can actually see myself moving side to side. If I deep breathe and slow down my breath it stops? Driving has become a problem for me recently with motion too. 🙏

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Julia, Melissa described the exact same symptom. I think what you're describing is much more consistent with PPPD than MdDS. You can hear her story here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpfXqmehm5mofbs

[@Freedom2Roam.]

@@TheSteadyCoach Thank you. I just found your channel and I think you are a gift to so many people suffering.. what a blessing you are ❤️

[@carolwenden3156]

Very interesting

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Thanks, Carol. I just think it's an interesting and different perspective that many people with MdDS have not explored.

[@Megan_Jennifer]

How can addressing deep psychological stress correct the VOR? Or is it that once you calm the nervous system response down that the brain will suddenly make the correct predictions?

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Yes, when the nervous system is calm and not predicting danger all the time, it will adjust sensory information and make correct predictions.

[@wendykorn1598]

Ik wil graag reageren, vanuit Nederland,, ik heb nu voor de 4e keer mdds, alle keren na een boottocht de laaste keer zelfs van een roeiboot, die veel last had van hekgolfen van voorbij komende motor boten, meestal duurt het ongeveer 6 tot 9 maanden. Maar sinds de laatste keer weet ik dat het mdds heet. We gaan aan de slag met de streepjes methode.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Het spijt me dat je dit doormaakt, Wendy! Bekijk dan mijn gratis cursus over het genezen van chronische duizeligheid. Al mijn aanbevelingen en technieken staan ​​erin. Er is hoop! thesteadycoach.com/free-course

[@laurateissier2676]

Hello and sorry for this new question but I discovered your channel. Have you ever known someone who presented PPPD type symptoms for a few years (I was really bad at walking so I stayed in bed, even if I was not lying down very well, It was really difficult to walk), after a year of less strong symptoms, present but less strong, a lot of stress made me relapse except that now it's worse sitting and lying down (it's not great for walking either, but I'm pitching a lot when I'm lying down and sitting). I'm worried because no one explains this change to me. Thanks a lot (all my test are normal)

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Welcome to my channel! It is EXTREMELY common for symptoms to change and shift over time with neural circuit dizziness. This is because the dizziness symptoms are being generated by the brain rather than a physical abnormality. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJC3n6J4fJ2Aj80 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ6zfJyFlpyJh5o

[@galejoyal5367]

Is this free to sign up? I was trying to reg and was asked for my credit card no.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

It's free and does not require a credit card. You have to click the button that says Access for Free.

[@laburgy]

I have tried the optokinetics on a small iPad . This is my question. If I use the goggles with a mobile for the stripes, when I do the head roll, aren't the stripes moving with me and the head roll is ineffective? If I sit in the room with stripes all around, when I do the head roll the stripes are vertical and moving... Using the iPad for 3 weeks/3 times a day/ 3 minutes, as recommended by Darius Rejali, has not changed my symptoms. I tried your red stripes, 8 times a day for 5 days , 5 minutes. No change. It's the stripes and head roll aspect I am most interested to hear about. Thank you.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Thank you for your comment. When using optokinetic stripes with goggles and a mobile device, the stripes will move with your head movements so it is not going to be effective.

[@laburgy]

@@TheSteadyCoach That is what it seemed to me and yet I was recommended to do that by a specialist! I used the iPad and kept it steady whilst I tilted, did it for 3 weeks. No change. I used your red stripes for 5 days, 8 times a day, no change.

[@laburgy]

@@TheSteadyCoach and yet it is recommended for MdDS , by specialists.

[@dieguns1735]

Do you think a three-hour flight could make my symptoms worse?

[@TheSteadyCoach]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eInbaWOFbaeJq6M

[@nataliemacdonald7859]

I have been diagnosed with pppd but also have the bobbing sensation described in this video which started after a plane ride how do I differentiate between the two pppd & mdds? As I was having vestibular issues prior to the plane ride also. The bobbing sensation does tend to come and go it is not constant.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Natalie, I actually have a video addressing this! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJSbqq15eZKsY7c

[@1Mssimplybeautiful]

What doctor do I see you test if I have pppd or mdds? I'm always feeling like I'm on a boat or swaying and like my head going to fall off or brain idk but it's frustrating

[@TheSteadyCoach]

My personal viewpoint is this kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJSbqq15eZKsY7c but typically people get the diagnosis from a neurologist

[@emmaemnick5155]

Nice video 👍. I’ve got similar symptoms but not from any ship/boat cruise or flying in a plane. I think mine occurred after some series of panic attacks.. I had internal vibrations and some feeling of unsteadiness. It’s been 2 months and the internal vibrations as stopped or I’ll say reduced to a very good extent but the feeling of unsteadiness became more pronounced a little bit.. Currently I feel this rocking/swaying sensation when I’m standing still or sitting down or lying down on my bed but as soon I start walking I don’t feel such sensations. I’m very normal when walking, I only get the rocking/swaying sensation when I’m not moving. Please can you help me with my symptoms and Possible things I could do to stop such sensations. Thank you very much I’ll be waiting for your reply .

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Emma, I'm so sorry to hear this. I have seen many, many people with rocking type symptoms that did not follow any kind of boat/vehicle ride. From my perspective, it's neural circuit dizziness. My whole channel is devoted to it, so check out some of the videos on here for my advice on how to handle it. If you'd like, you can consider taking my course. It's COMPLETELY free and teaches you how to do this step by step. members.thesteadycoach.com

[@emmaemnick5155]

@@TheSteadyCoach thank you very much

[@sharonchemugo6848]

Hey how are you now?

[@sherriquest414]

@@emmaemnick5155 how are you now?

[@emmaemnick5155]

@@sherriquest414 I feel very much butter now. It’s been 10months since the onset of my symptoms. I no longer feel the internal vibrations.. I still feel the swaying sensation but the intensity is very much reduced now as it doesn’t disturb my daily activities. Most times I even forget about the symptoms. I’ll say I’m 95% recovered.

[@soufflecks6895]

I am suffering from MdDs and it happened after an anxiety attack before even a plane ride . Do you think i should take medicine such as klonopin etc. to help ?

[@TheSteadyCoach]

That is a complicated question! I can’t advise you specifically about your own medication but I can tell you that the anxiety attack came from somewhere and it is important to address the deeper issues. Klonopin is recommended by some ENTs to temporarily shut down the vestibular system before and during travel, and this may help prevent the symptoms from getting triggered. But the underlying problems are not being resolved by that.

[@freetheweed220]

Do you think it's herititary?

[@TheSteadyCoach]

I think some people are probably more genetically prone to vestibular related sensitivities, but it's not a cause.

[@ayzanadeem4299]

Hello! I developed dizziness a day after being on a boat for 1.5-2hours.. is that MDDS? I have visual instability and I feel like i'm swaying sometimes. I sometimes get headaches but these are my main symptoms

[@TheSteadyCoach]

If it was recently- technically it is completely normal to notice some land sickness when you get off a boat. Don’t let it freak you out! That does not mean you have chronic symptoms. MDDS means the symptoms have become chronic. If your symptoms were chronic and they started immediately after being in motion, that is the definition of MdDS. But I find a lot of overlap between MDDS and PPPD and IMO they are both neural circuit dizziness.

[@ayzanadeem4299]

@@TheSteadyCoach Oh no no this happened last October, I was dizzy for two months, started having serc, the dizziness went away for 3 months and then started again out of nowhere... its been 5 months and it hasn't gotten better

[@allievance8840]

Hello!! This is going to be crazy to read probably but I have had these symptoms for about 7 months now. I watched more of your videos and the only thing I remember doing that triggered this feel was using an elevator which a lot of times I feel slight movement for a minute or so after but this specific time it just didn’t go away and was really really bad for that first week or two. Anyways 7 months later it’s not as bad but still there. I have a fully paid for cruise that was bought over a year ago by family and it’s only one month away. They can’t get a refund and its 8 days long so I have been worried about going but I’m trying to not freak myself out. What are your thoughts?? Is there anything I can do on the boat to help myself from being worse? I’m going to try to be on land a lot so I’m not always on the boat but do u think this could make me relapse worse? Also the airplane ride there and back has me worried. I’ve never had issues with cruise or plane in the past but having these symptoms now I’m not sure if it would affect me. Any tips or video recommendations would be so so appreciated. Thank you for helping all of us it is so so appreciated ❤️❤️

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Allie, I would recommend taking my free course if you haven't already. All of my techniques and recommendations are condensed within it thesteadycoach.com/free-course. Travel is a very common question that comes up with my clients and I talk more about this in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/eInbaWOFbaeJq6M

[@JessicaJLandi]

Did you go on the cruise? How are your symptoms? I just went on my 1st cruise on Jan 28-Feb 1 and have been swaying for 5 days now after getting off the ship.

[@angelbabycards3595]

Hope this helps, Friends. Best, MDM, JD Candidate - Peace! \\//

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Thank you!

[@kellyjoyce748]

Could I rmail you. I want to share my story with you.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Kelly, you can reach my office at [e-mail]

[@Km798g]

Do you find that if it is stress induced, there are solutions to this?😔

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Yes, please check out my free course thesteadycoach.com/free-course

[@sherriquest414]

I had rocking sensations now daily like I am on a boat. I feel like swaying when standing and sitting, especially sitting. Saw 4 neurologists and 1 ent and all said could not find anything wrong. What are the treatment options? Do I need to get a mri? Meds?

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Hi Sherri, the only one who can answer what other tests you need are your doctors. Vestibular testing is a good idea too. Once you’re medically cleared, it’s neural circuit dizziness. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoKnd3qsfayIiMU

[@sanjaykumar6599]

How are u

[@jessicaamber6623]

♥️

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Nothing I haven't said before but now it's official and on here!

[@vickiosgood7520]

I want to first THANK YOU for this video and I think you are SPOT ON for every facet of MdDS. I stepped off my 29th cruise 3 years ago and within 48 hours began experiencing full blown MdDS symptoms. I believe I also suffered after my 19th cruise but did not know it was MdDS, I thought it was a stuffy ear and symptoms were off and on for 6 months. Both cruises I was on a lower deck in a cove balcony and it seemed I was right at the water and it would make me dizzy/ I stopped going on the balcony. I have read thousands of pages and watched hundreds of videos and I’m actually shocked that you described everything exactly correct about this syndrome. Being a sufferer we do not see many people who completely understand. When I am confronted with a stressful situation I will immediately begin to rock and sway more. How bad I rock or sway is greatly affected by how I react to symptoms. If I calm myself down I can greatly diminish them. If I keep my mind busy I almost forget I have MdDS. Standing still is my most difficult task. I can sit and lay easily as I have learned how to react. Of course the car is wonderful. A few weird facts- if I’m the driver for a full week my symptoms are a little amplified right when I get out of the car but then almost non existent. If I move hangers to the right I am fine, my eyes do not “like” them going to the left. If I turn my head to an exaggerated down I rock more. If I drink alcohol (less stress) almost non existent but worse the next day. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart- to be seen and heard is absolutely priceless!

[@bloodreddead]

I wanted to help to know if I have it or not my head feels slightly swimmy when I am in resting position I feel like my body is shaking but at times it feels like its moving on one side can you help diagnose if I have this or not I have been suffering for past 1 year and I am very anxious about my future

[@bloodreddead]

It goes away when I exercise

[@TheSteadyCoach]

I am very sorry to hear what you’re going through. From my perspective, the symptoms you have (if all medical issues have been ruled out) are consistent with neural circuit dizziness, and the exact symptom doesn’t change the way I treat it. You can learn more here Ask Dr. Yo: PPPD or MdDS- which one do I have? (and why it matters) kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJSbqq15eZKsY7c

[@amorestperpe]

What you said at around 5 minutes makes me nauseous. Lol

[@oldmedstudent1750]

My problem with the biopsychosocial model is that people who use it tend to only implement the psychosocial aspect and completely ignore the bio part.

[@TheSteadyCoach]

Anecdotally, the people who end up on my channel have usually been "bio"ed to death with MRIs, CT scans, ECGs, lab tests, blood draws, hearing tests, vestibular tests and medical exams (20+ physicians is not unheard of) and prescribed SSRIs, SNRIs, anxiolytics, massages, chiropractic adjustments (arguably not "bio"), physical therapy, supplements, restrictive diets, exercise regimens, etc. When they do not recover, they are then told there is nothing that can be done, and they stay ill indefinitely. But when they accept that there is nothing physically wrong with them, they recover. I see your point, and I agree that having an otherwise healthy body with well-functioning physiology is an important component of recovery from any condition. And sure, we may not fully understand the biological markers of disease. That said, with medically-unexplained chronic conditions like MdDS/PPPD, separating psychology from physiology is a moot point. This is without even going down the psychoneuroendocrinoimmunology path and the studies that have been done on long-term effects of trauma on people's health. If you're interested, this interview might be an interesting listen. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3WWkGmmbs9naJY also there are some great resources at ppdassociation.org

[@oldmedstudent1750]

@@TheSteadyCoach "But when they accept that there is nothing physically wrong with them, they recover." That's assuming there isn't anything physically wrong with them. A good example of this is CFS/ME. A lot of people have been trying to explain this condition away as psychosomatic or a result of psychosocial factors, but now evidence is starting to emerge that it could be a result of mitochondrial disruption. I think there's value to the biopsychosocial model but unfortunately those I've met who are employing it are way too quick to jump to "its psychosocial" and stop investigating. Personally, I think all three are important and we should never stop asking questions.