2021 Porsche 911 Targa vs 1986 Porsche 911 Targa

2021 Porsche 911 Targa vs 1986 Porsche 911 Targa review by The Straight Pipes. The 2021 Porsche 911 Targa is putting down 379hp 332 lb-ft tq from a 3.0-liter twin-turbo boxer 6 cylinder engine and the 1986 Porsche 911 Targa has 207hp 192 lb-ft tq from a naturally aspirated 3.2 liter boxer 6 cylinder. This is part of our old vs new legendary series where we take very special cars with a long history and compare them to see how they've changed (or stayed the same) over time. At $165,380 CAD, would you take it over the 1986 Porsche 911 Targa?
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[@TheStraightPipes]

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[@yuvan600]

You guys Rock!

[@carterbalch2792]

I don’t have anything to shop for but I have a Volkswagen cabrio that has been sitting in a garage which I don’t know for how long. I’d definitely give it a full restoration and engine swap it including transmission swap to a 2012 Honda Civic.

[@kainding1555]

I tried hard typing in Canadian zip codes lol

[@giorgiotommasini6828]

Porsche= Zuffenhausen, not Stuttgart guys!

[@mk7sbtn]

@@giorgiotommasini6828 Sources I've checked all say it's from Stuttgart

[@matthewb9241]

The 80’s Targa is soooo beautiful. That tiny Apple Car Play might be the coolest thing I’ve ever seen.

[@tropicthndr]

Yea, that’s why the best tuners like DeMan and Singer use the older version, their a thousand percent more appealing. That blue blob just looks like a pregnant Elephant ready to explode. Never mind the front end of new 911’s, they look like that frog face in Mandalorian series.

[@HiddenFiles]

That car play system costs $1300 😅

[@matthewb9241]

@@HiddenFiles when you’re talking Porsche, everything is kinda expensive. It would be worth it to me if that’s my car.

[@Unfinished_sentenc]

@@HiddenFiles thanks for getting the price!

[@Spartan168]

@@tropicthndr it's possible to like both cars. Did you know that?

[@Kowen959]

They’re both so beautiful, but I’m gonna have to go with the old one. Just a pure legend and one of my favorite cars. (I’m a sucker for 80s/90s cars)

[@altr.]

The sculpt of the old 911s are unbeatable imo. Just can't go with a new 911 just cause of the design.

[@VaanRavi]

Anyone saying they want the old one is just posing as a classic lover to seem cultured. We all know anyone sensible takes the new one

[@Kowen959]

@@VaanRavi some people aren’t sensible. I know the new one is better in every way, but I just like the old one.

[@rybread1346]

@@VaanRavi new one is for boring yuppie posers

[@michaelm4890]

@@Kowen959 same here. I think the old one looks more Porsche and has a nicer line.

[@ghostedSTIG]

That has to be the smallest TOUCHSCREEN ON ANY car ive ever seen lol.

[@kylegriffiths5990]

its still so cool though that Porsche dealers offer it as an upgrade for older models.

[@sojabub]

@@kylegriffiths5990 Really took me by surprise and I love it. Doesn't even look tacky, it's perfect.

[@smrg28]

Both of these are sophisticated styling even having 35 years difference.

[@Jason-ru9ku]

As an 84 Targa owner, this video makes me so happy to see these vintage cars being covered. It’s a blast to drive every time and is always a visceral driving feeling.

[@Tides-of-Time-and-Space]

My first ride in a sports car was in a 86 Targa. It's what started my love for Porsche.

[@coleenyart538]

I currently own a 1960 Porsche 356 and I can confirm nothing beats the old Porsche driving experience. Even with basically no power it’s still smiles for miles! 🤩

[@robertwalls5794]

I'm 51 and was 16 when the 1986 was new and have the pleasure of driving a few of the "old" air cooled models. Although not the fastest the old one is such a pure sports car driving experience because the feel, sound and yes the smell. Old one please!

[@mac3490]

I’d still rather have the old one. Way cooler.

[@dickvolen4589]

Those oil burners were hand full. I had few.

[@deadpoet415]

The fact that you both like the older 911 based on how it connects with the road and gives you that classic coolness factor shows you guys are true car guys. Yes the new 911 performs better and is more convenient. But it also misses the point of having fun.

[@NovaResource]

1986: the year Yuri and Jakob were born. And the year I graduated high school. Thanks for making me feel old. 🤣

[@smithe68]

🤣 me too 😐

[@dickvolen4589]

At least you graduated. Good robot.

[@davidcarroll8735]

I knew there had to be at least a few of us! Awesome car then, even better now.

[@Simon-jq4fj]

"The PDK cost $6660 which is the exact dollar amount of the devil" "Nice"

[@saadislam2110]

Literally not funny what so ever...NOT EVEN A SMIRK..

[@Simon-jq4fj]

@@saadislam2110 nobody asked g

[@stevenschwartzstein4502]

the devil x 10

[@thegirthquake8574]

Funny enough, that's Porsche admitting the PDK is the devil lmao

[@marcocerqueira2732]

Yes, but only in Canadian dollars

[@jakev8722]

My aunt has an '89 911 Targa in red. Doesn't have the spoiler, but still a beautiful car.

[@Andrew9565-AD]

They’ve evolved so much but yet it still has the same spirit

[@SullenSecret]

Yuri looks like Mr. 80's Tom Selleck with that mustache and tropical shirt. Very classic.

[@Showza83]

I grew up driving my dads 85 targa. What a great experience. I miss that car dearly.

[@HeidiandFranny]

That '86 is so choice! Pretty easy to work on and super fun in the snow. Great review guys!

[@CARacterReviews]

Oh my gosh they are so gorgeous. Both of them. Just beautiful.

[@Supik23]

Yes, Jakob and Yuri are truly beautiful.

[@Richspjones]

Hi from Singapore; great video as usual. I’ll take both please, but a 992 Targa is CAD 542,000 here before options and our form of road tax. Better get saving!

[@Kowen959]

*new one* “This is brilliant” *old one* “but I like this”

[@Mike_Spina]

MORE new vs old!!! love these vids!!

[@GTStrane]

I will take the speed and looks imo of the new one over the old one. Auto targa top and being able to drive wherever whenever is better imo. But I have never really cared for old stuff anyway so what do I know

[@BilalHussain-gc2sf]

Atleast you're honest. I think some people like old cars just to act cool or because of peer pressure.

[@Uriaah]

@@BilalHussain-gc2sf exactly. I like the new one a little bit more as well

[@mikespitzer007]

Oh heck -- no contest the 1986 any day ! Sorry the new Porsches may have more power and luxury -- but the new ones have zero personality and the classic style has been lost -- in fact almost all new cars look the same --- from 20 feet away, the new Porsche could be a Japanese sports car

[@Affalterbach1967]

Straight Pipers, respecting the drive.

[@blakechesledon166]

Dad and I bought a 1980 911 SC. Bought it in pretty rough condition but put lots of hours into it and got it to sing. I miss that car so much, we sold it a couple years ago

[@paullivingthedream8878]

Gotta go new one for sure. Once that initial nostalgia Wears off you will be wanting for better everything and the reliability of the new one.

[@mikespitzer007]

Oh heck -- no contest the 1986 any day ! Sorry the new Porsches may have more power and luxury -- but the new ones have zero personality and the classic style has been lost -- in fact almost all new cars look the same --- from 20 feet away, the new Porsche could be a Japanese sports car

[@scottruhl4710]

Excellent video guys, really enjoyed this.

[@SupremeKid98]

10:10 Was NOT expecting that lol

[@Simon-jq4fj]

Okay, now THIS is one of the coolest videos on your channel

[@SL4PSYM4XY]

The Targa is sublime. I learned how to drive in an '87. It'll always be one of my favorite cars.

[@xavierbullett7219]

THIS MADE MY WEEK!!! Keep up the great work guys 👍🏿! You should do a comparison between an old m3 and a new one next time

[@DrKyleStanley]

I have an 86 targa in white just like this (but no spoiler) and it’s a true joy to drive everywhere! Fun video guys

[@GordonBaird]

Loved the new vs. old comparison! Hope you guys can make more videos like this in the future. Might suggest you guys try to say "the classic" or "the new one" more consistently though... It got a little confusing at times as you were saying "this one/that one", especially when the corresponding footage showed the two of you in the opposite cars to the audio. 😅

[@TheStraightPipes]

Makes sense

[@Cr125stin]

A good friend of mine who is a 40 years older than me always talks about some of the cars he’s had. One he regrets selling was his 1970 Porsche 911 targa in signal orange, he bought it new. He said none of his friends could keep up with it on the twisty roads back then.

[@palebeachbum]

Before even starting this video I came to the conclusion that the 86 would be the more engaging and fun car. Analog cars are always more fun than digital cars. Two mint vintage 911s for the price of one new one is a no-brainer.

[@etowngti]

My uncle has an '89 Carrera and a '98 Targa--he just fixed up the Carrera after 25 years of it sitting in our driveway and man, does it command respect! Insanely cool car, even more so after all these years!

[@cstavrou58]

Cool video guys! I have a nice yellow 1977 Porsche and I love it. Sorry is not for sale. But if you want to see it or drive it you have to come to Minneapolis Minnesota.

[@rickstevens1479]

That older 911 is still so beautiful, sounds great too..

[@Garrido1]

Please bring more older cars! Keep the good work guys 😁🇵🇹

[@hawkinsjd11]

when I was 7 years old I saw a G body targa and immediately fell in love. I have a boxster S 986 because its what I can afford right now. I frequently window shop for the 80's targa though. I would love to find one some day.

[@artistek]

I agree with Yuri. I don't get the whole hype on air-cooled 911... doesn't do for me. though... I like the design of them how tiny they are. Great video boys!!

[@2688elmo]

Great video. 2020 RF owner here. I think that 3.2 Carrera's acceleration is almost identical to a new MX-5 with very similar power to weight ratios.

[@TheStraightPipes]

It felt like it

[@herrfinke1]

What's an "RF"?

[@marklynch1305]

It’s crazy how much larger the 2021 is

[@RRSmurf]

Is it really that crazy tho?

[@RRSmurf]

As I say that, they show the rear three quarter view to show the new one's massive ass 😂

[@robbybobbyhobbies]

For a fair comparison, put a BMW 3 series from both ages next to each other, and a Mustang and a Golf, etc. ALL cars have got bigger (safety, HP, size inflation - you can get someone to buy a new Golf if it's a bit bigger than the old one, until the Golf is the size of a Passat and the Polo is the size of the Golf - rinse and repeat). The 992 is not really a big car (ran one on the roads of the UK and it's definitely wieldy on the bends).

[@Iceman259]

4:06 The sound on the air cooled 3.2 changes dramatically above 4000 RPM or so, and I’ve also noticed that it sounds a lot meaner under load vs. revving it in neutral. It’s like the exhaust note equivalent of a mullet - business cruising the streets, party on the on ramp.

[@petemcfeet28]

Y'all ought to compare an early C3 Corvette, pre-smog controls, no power steering, no power brakes to a modern C8 version. You would absolutely fall in love with the sound of the 4 barrels opening up, especially if you get a big block, side pipe car! Cheers!

[@BlackDim100]

I have a 1981 SC Coupe and they are fantastic cars!

[@Greenspag]

The 4 screen you did for the acceleration is a great idea! Because it's hard to put 3 videos on a screen whilst still looking good! Great video!

[@TheStraightPipes]

Wanted to spice it up

[@javidaderson]

Fact that they set up the communications so they can both talk to each other seamlessly from different cars is awesome.

[@TheStraightPipes]

🥰

[@kwameoffei6777]

I’m impressed with the old school apple CarPlay screen... awesome!!!

[@flatf3057]

yeah porsche started offering installations from the dealer on any older model which is neat

[@Jonoponomono]

I saw the 1986 at the dealership when I took a 996 in for PCCM+ installation and it is beautiful. Great job by North Toronto Porsche!

[@randomzzzz5765]

The old one reminds me of the "comet" car in gta vice city ❤️😂

[@carsonbealsey9032]

Because the comet is a 911😂

[@origggggs1]

don't forget GTA:SA, it also come with the 'comet' car

[@matthewb9241]

That’s what is was based off of

[@ratkoplays3190]

every gta they make a comet that is based off the current 911

[@w1nnin]

That old targa interior is fucking mint

[@jeremysmith9696]

the 86's Targa is one of my favorite cars ever!

[@vertrox3435]

I’m sure someone else has said this, but the heat in the ‘86 comes off the exhaust (if it’s anything like my mom’s ‘75 914). There are basically air tubes around the manifolds, and a little fan pulls the hot air into the cabin when the heater is one.

[@Ahmadalideen]

Don’t have a Porsche for sale but I do have a 1991 Mercedes 300D for sale. It does need a lot of work. It needs a whole new paint job, and it does have a blown head gasket. It still does run and drive too. I’m looking for 2k for it just to get rid of it

[@edwardtiangco1445]

Old is gold, gentlemen..

[@madhusudhand8933]

911 targa is such an icon 🔥

[@davidmorais2394]

Hmmm… I have both except that my new 911 in not new anymore - 997.2 C4S cabriolet (manual) which I’ve owned for 10 years. Just can’t sell it. Superb, balanced car. Joy to drive. Ditto ++ my recently acquired 1986 3.2 Turbo body Targa. Learning to drive it properly. Stunning car.

[@all-flat-engines]

94-98 911's (993) non targa is where its at. A few more luxuries like AC and power steering with all the old feels

[@franzhuber7361]

993… the 911 sweet spot 💛

[@iluvcakes19]

Not a huge fan of the 993. I know everyone loves them but naaaaah, they come off boring to me in look and feel.

[@Dom_Tosco]

Born in 86. Thanks for making a lot of us feel old. LOL.

[@archmage1991]

Ignore the Conti wheel recommendations here folks. The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S are the go to 911 tires for everyday and some track. The grip is unreal ;). Otherwise, love the channel and content.

[@JEdmund81]

After I win the lottery, I'm getting a 911 Targa in Miami Blue with those 50th anniversary Fuchs-style wheels! Gonna look HOT!

[@redgt3244]

The 86 sounds and looks so good.

[@PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath]

Would love a mid 80s targa no tail. Mid 90s glass top, and the new one. That would be quite a garage.

[@mrnicktoyou]

5:40 scared the living hell out of me. I thought there was something coming out of the frunk as the camera moved back but it was just the light.

[@alexandrebergeron1260]

35 years apart?!? No 1986 is 25 years ago. See 2021 - 1986 equals 35..... hold up. Good god im getting old.

[@TheStraightPipes]

🤣

[@noardjaloshi4446]

My dad owns that targa G modell. Coolest car i have ever been driven in

[@Escape_Raz]

One day I will own a Porsche turbo s and I'll love every second of it.

[@dickvolen4589]

Can you handle a MAD bull? Or a MAD woman? Dream on kid.

[@charletfoster8917]

These are just amazing 🤩

[@busyak]

my daily is an '87 944 Turbo and the most common question on the street is 'what year is that?' but my favorite was this guy who said '87? that was the year i was born. damn they made the coolest shit in 87'

[@wakjob961]

The '86...all day. A 1971 would be even better. What a beautiful Canadian day to be driving around in a couple of Targa's.

[@MushfiqurRahmanColin]

HI5. Me too born in 86. Love your effort, always !

[@-manillazilla8327]

Do one with a C2 corvette compared to the C8

[@dickvolen4589]

Beer!

[@ShawnKal7]

Does anyone else really like the wings on the old porsches. I love how unique they look

[@herrfinke1]

I do. Compare one without....

[@herrfinke1]

Heck yeah! Like 1986-1989? Sweet, "Whale Tail" we used to called them. Made the car!

[@renerobes30]

The Pipes were born in '86, I was 33 then. Time flies. Gloss black is the worst, dust and scratches galore. The '86 may not have the exhaust sound but the engine sound is classic, like a giant well-oiled sewing machine.

[@JeffKing310]

Great comparison! Tough choice. I think Heidi and Franny will have a definitive vote.

[@3.2Carrera]

There's just something about the '64-89 911 that captured something perfect. So pure and raw but you can't stop progress. Going back to less will just cost you these days.

[@terryroth428]

I owned a 1986 Porsche Carrera Targa, same color. This video reminds me why I should NEVER have sold it I miss it every day.

[@t1328]

I love the old one, but if I could afford it, I'd definitely get the new one.

[@TeamPavlik]

“...and come to our conclusion....where we obviously decide the older ones better...100%” ** SUBSCRIBED **

[@MrVara411]

Old skool all day every day. MANUAL all day, every day. Even with stop-and-go traffic factored in.

[@Razor_OK]

The 1986 Porsche 911 was my 10 year-old self's dream car. Still remains a goal of mine to own one many years later

[@gobear83]

I want the old classic….

[@brianmcdonald1547]

That radio in the 86 with Apple Carplay is a game changer.

[@MFLORAX992]

I love old Porsche’s so much I want 😍

[@stevemiller267]

Always top notch content boys!!

[@viel.anthony]

Got a cupholder-less 80's german car for you if you'd like... 1988 325is E30, black on black in the south-shore of Montreal. Needs some TLC putting the interior back together (got all the parts) but fully upgraded mechanically.

[@mashrufanan1984]

Jacob has an epic car choise

[@wrzl1675]

991’s and 992’s are light years better than the awful 80’s Porsche’s. Porsche did the right thing by keeping the 911 and just vastly improving it in every way over the decades.

[@einenbahnburner]

I like the matching Targa tops. And the cars too.

[@carfan3762]

Well, if you can find and afford both, that’s the answer 😄 But though the Targa of old is the absolute reference, I personally wouldn’t say it looks better than the new one. The 992 is, in my humble opinion, elegance personified.

[@ng9478]

Great Work.. When can we expect Acura MDX 2022 review ?

[@TAXCOLLECTOR-mx3mg]

The TARGA has actually gained respect in the PORSCHE community. thanks to the newer version. The main thing improved is the front wind diverter in the front widow frame. It acts more stable as well as the wind isn't getting into the pocket behind the driver. I also like the DUCKTAIL as an option, but not the Whaletail. OK, now get back and adjust those valves. ( Jaguar seats are almost identical but they are four way adjustable and heated. )

[@beganny]

Missed out on "and we tarrrrrrgoing for a drive!"

[@TheStraightPipes]

Hired as our new script writer. You replace the non existent script writer so you have big shoes to fill

[@oversteer_9339]

Your shirts are so appropriate for that classic Porsche

[@andrewfayi9448]

These are my DREAM cars! Love you guys! p.s. I'm also from Ontario!

[@tomwebber9377]

35 yrs old is the PERFECT age guys. I'm totally jealous because at 35 I was living large too, but it was a different time. The '86 is nostalgia and the 2021 is the new ideal. Given my choice, I'd probably take the '86 as well because I always wanted one. Thanks for the video.

[@crack_of_dawn]

Yuri fully embracing that Magnum PI look

[@benpenagonzales6014]

Do a 986 boxster vs the new one! 986 are the current bargains whilst everything else goes crazy in value.