Why Dooku Grew Much WEAKER with Age But Palpatine Didn't - Star Wars Explained

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@aster4jaden
@aster4jaden Ай бұрын
I always thought it was because Sidious complete and utterly embraced the Dark Side and in Legends it was mentioned he was the only person to "tame" the Dark Side other than Exar Kun, where as Dooku only used it when needed
@Techmej
@Techmej 21 күн бұрын
Starkiller: Am I a joke to you?
@Tuturial464
@Tuturial464 Ай бұрын
Not to mention Dooku was never truly fully committed to the dark side.
@tomuch4u969
@tomuch4u969 Ай бұрын
Dooku was using Sith sorcery and force lighting. He basically totally embraced the Dark side.
@RomanVasquez-lf4tb
@RomanVasquez-lf4tb Ай бұрын
@@tomuch4u969nah he didn’t have the eyes
@ghostface4404
@ghostface4404 Ай бұрын
​@@tomuch4u969not completely. Light still existed but it was held by twisted logic. He wanted to help make the galaxy a better place.
@tomuch4u969
@tomuch4u969 Ай бұрын
@@RomanVasquez-lf4tb he shows his sith eyes in the clone wars when he trains Savage Opress. He just has the ability to hide them and appear in pleasant form like Palpatine
@NeroLucife666
@NeroLucife666 Ай бұрын
Fake news
@CommanderCodyChipless
@CommanderCodyChipless Ай бұрын
Revenge of the Senior Citizens
@taWay21
@taWay21 Ай бұрын
I always felt Dooku wasnt really a true, blue believer in the dark side. Unlike Sidious, Dooku believed the dark side was a means to an end (freedom from the Jedi dogma, freedom to change the Republic to something more Authoritarian), and not an end to itself
@1God1Fury
@1God1Fury Ай бұрын
Dooku used dark side as a tool, not as a life style as Sidious
@YoungHarlem110352
@YoungHarlem110352 Ай бұрын
Dooku just had a different methodology and viewpoint, the Force is only a tool to be used. Period. Either from the Light or Dark side. Unfortunately, the Force doesn't take too kindly to that.
@deadlyart02
@deadlyart02 Ай бұрын
Im happy you and star wars theory are working together
@arronfrazier7873
@arronfrazier7873 Ай бұрын
Dooku turned to the darkside around 80 years old! Palpatine was around 30 years younger than him during the Clone Wars. Darkside degrades your body faster. Even during ROTJ, Palpatine was still younger than Dooku during ROTS!
@Tuturial464
@Tuturial464 Ай бұрын
Even then, dooku was never truly committed to the dark side.
@dmitrysteinsapir2185
@dmitrysteinsapir2185 Ай бұрын
Palpatine by ROTJ was 8 years older than Dooku at 88
@willy_lime
@willy_lime Ай бұрын
Didn't Sidious mask his actual age when he was suppressing his dark side as to blend in more with a higher society of Senators?
@Rwmd953
@Rwmd953 Ай бұрын
He wasn’t 30 he wasn’t even 18
@mikedobson1678
@mikedobson1678 Ай бұрын
No he wasn’t
@eds1942
@eds1942 Ай бұрын
Dooku was older, came to the Darkside late, and was a man of action. Likely spending much of his Darkside points, to keep himself active and physically fit. Growing up as a Jedi, he is used to people understanding that he is a skilled Force user, he had that appearance to keep up. Palpatine was young, had only known the Darkside and has learn how to keep that hidden. And he is a master politician with many connections. So, the Force is a tool, one of the multitude at his disposal, and he would use it when and if he needed too. Nihilus and Sion were changed by what happened on Malacore V. The normal rules don’t apply. Like with many Sith rituals that kept those like Vitiate alive into another life or allowed the spirits of some ancient Sith Lords to retain a portion of them power after the physical bodies had died, or like with the Palpatine clones.
@bigyoshi5170
@bigyoshi5170 Ай бұрын
Dooku grew weaker with age because he did not retain his Maia powers, which he had in a previous life.
@crazymulatto8981
@crazymulatto8981 Ай бұрын
What is Maia exactly?
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Ай бұрын
​@@crazymulatto8981Tolkienverse reference IE Simarillion, Hobbit, Lord Of The Rings, And Tom Bombaldi yeah.
@CrimsonReapa
@CrimsonReapa Ай бұрын
@@crazymulatto8981 maia is a race of angelic like beings from the books and movie trilogy lord of the rings where the actor that plays dooku in star wars played 1 of these maia who took the form of a wizard who also happened to become corrupted and became a dark wizard/maia due to the influence of a being named sauron (to put it simply sauron is the Palpatine/Sidious of lord of the rings) and his own jealously of gandalf (another wizard/maia), if you haven't watched LoTR i recommend it bc LoTR played a role in George Lucas creating the star wars verse as he is a big fan of LoTR and you can see some references to LoTR in SW (such as the ones i mentioned earlier with there being a dooku like character in the form of the dark wizard and sauron being a inspiration that georage used when he created Palpatine's character and personality), LoTR is also the main inspiration of another writer called GRRM creating his famous book series called A Song of Ice and Fire which has 2 live action tv series u most likely have heard of which are Game of Thrones and House of The Dragon, it's a must read/watch if you love fantasy series with iconic and great antagonists/villains, infact LoTR is known as "the godfather of modern fantasy" as it inspired pretty much all of the modern fantasy books,novels,tv series and movies you see today either directly or indirectly.
@crazymulatto8981
@crazymulatto8981 Ай бұрын
@CrimsonReapa I appreciate the explanation, thank you 🙂
@crazymulatto8981
@crazymulatto8981 Ай бұрын
@matthewmann8969 much appreciated 👍
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 Ай бұрын
This theory is actually not well supported (an issue with a lot of Star Wars stuff). It contradicts A-Level canon. Dooku was growing stronger as he grew older. His connection to the Dark Side was increasing, and he was still physically in top shape. The duel on Oba Dia in 19 BBY is a prime example. If Dooku was merely aging into nothing, why did Sidious fear his grooming an apprentice? In any event, Palpatine was also aging, connection to the Force notwithstanding. Like Yoda, he was growing infirm when not augmented. Dooku at 83 was naturally spry. Sidious at 83 was already relying on a walking stick.
@MrKevin486
@MrKevin486 Ай бұрын
The Dookster! 😮
@Rendous
@Rendous Ай бұрын
Aside from his age, Dooku was conflicted about how things were going during the Clone Wars along with the things he had done. He wanted the Jedi to be free from their dogma and what he saw as their enslavement to the Republic, but so many of them had died and turned to the dark side during the Clone Wars, along with him having taken the lives of more than a few of them. He justified it to himself by seeing the dark side and everything he was doing as a means to an end, but it was undoubtedly eating away at him and helping to degrade his body even further because of how he wasn't fully committed to the dark side. What he never realized was that, to Palpatine, he was a means to an end himself and a disposable pawn when the time was right.
@Edward_Nebiolo
@Edward_Nebiolo Ай бұрын
I think it also has to deal with the fact that Dooku didn’t use the dark side that much. His body aged just by turning his hair and beard white which is normal. He never truly embraced the dark side. If he did, he would have had SITH eyes. By only taking a small sample of the dark side he grew weaker, but he used the dark side more often, he may have not grew weaker
@DJMartin-x9k
@DJMartin-x9k Ай бұрын
Glad you and Theory are good! Good to see our community bond and grow.
@Historicutuber
@Historicutuber Ай бұрын
Yeah you answered this question beautifully.
@AngshumanVI
@AngshumanVI Ай бұрын
Even if Dooku had the same level of experience as Sidious, he wouldn't have grown as much powerful. The main reason here is that Sidious enjoyed being evil and Tyrannus didn't. You can't truly embrace the Dark Side unless you let it engulf you completely. However, he certainly would've given Sidious a run for his money.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Ай бұрын
Also that Sidious had a moderately higher midichlorian count being tied with Galen Merek in that aspect in Legends Expanded Universe while Dooku had one either near to Yodas or at parity to Yodas yeah.
@EmperorDarthOP
@EmperorDarthOP Ай бұрын
Great video The Stupendous Wave, i fully agree with your theory about Dooku's great weakness. But if age and traning with age is a factor. I am wondering. What If Darth Sidious felt Anakin's birth? Like he felt Anakin being born and after a year or so found out where he was born. Killed Shmi and trained him from birth to be the Prefect Sith. Reaching his Full Potential Both in Power & Darkness. Making Him Darth Sith'ari and overthrowing Sidious once Palpatine became the Emperor. As we all know, George Lucas said that Anakin's full potential was 200% to Palpatine's 100%. But after Mustafar Vader was only 80% to Sidious 100%. But that Sidious always thought that Vader's weakness was laying more in his mind, than his body. But what if this Darth Sith'ari reached Ultimate Sithhood in Both aspects of mind and body. And became the (Not) The Dark Lord of the Sith. (But) THE Darkest Overlord of the Sith. Reaching the roof of what any Sith ever could be in both.
@Nuklz1981
@Nuklz1981 Ай бұрын
Dooku wasn't a natural Sith either. He turned to the Darkside out of desperation to "save" the Galaxy because he saw the corruption of the Senate and Jedi. Sidious on the other hand was a natural user of the Darkside. Dooku straddled the line in the middle kind of like Mace, and Revan ,and even G.M. Luke from Legends. They found a way to walk in between and find a place.
@Gor85
@Gor85 Ай бұрын
Perfect description of dark side by George! Dark side is like cocaine,heroin. Sidious is like huricane,dark side in purest form. Dooku's age is great problem I agree. May the Force be with you too😊
@valmid5069
@valmid5069 Ай бұрын
Cant wait for more Star Wars content from your channel!
@Gamerafighter76
@Gamerafighter76 Ай бұрын
Glad to have this burning question answered.
@thearbiter9448
@thearbiter9448 Ай бұрын
Excited to see you and Theory together!!!!
@hmon661
@hmon661 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to the chat with Theory!☺
@JohnU1515
@JohnU1515 Ай бұрын
@ 4:05 does anyone notice that during the saber clash with Dooku, Obi-Wan, & Anakin that Anakin's eyes appear to be yellow Sith eyes at that point? It is difficult to tell since I can't even make out Obi-Wan's eyes in the image but it still looks that way with Anakin.
@robertmartinez2752
@robertmartinez2752 Ай бұрын
Good catch
@dreadrath
@dreadrath Ай бұрын
I also think a part of Dooku just refused to let himself FULLY give himself to the dark side. He could never shake his old jedi discipline (Although he did dabble in the dark side even as a jedi). Oh he was certainly an evil dark sider through and through by the end of his life, but its kind of like he refused to become fully one with it. Its funny though since the Light side actually kept him young, heck he had no grey hair and moved like a 20 year old even at 70
@Ziggy-u5z
@Ziggy-u5z Ай бұрын
Dooku was older than Palpatine....😂 insane work
@willy_lime
@willy_lime Ай бұрын
If Dooku was able to train earlier in life in the dark side, I'm almost willing to bet he'd be the equivalent of Vader and Anakin would never have been turned, or even be made a jedi. Thrawn wouldn't have been in hiding and Palpatine would still be in the shadows as the Sith Empire grew to insane levels. Dooku had a massive handicap with his age for sure.
@joshuahenderson3444
@joshuahenderson3444 Ай бұрын
Anakin grew stronger while Dooku was getting weaker over the course of the Clone Wars the difference between someone like Dooku and Sidious was that Palpatine was far more exceptional in the dark side due to natural selection in my opinion
@jwolftheentertainer7954
@jwolftheentertainer7954 Ай бұрын
Really love this Channel! Always had knowledge of Star Wars it's one of my favorite Franchises, but not as in depth as this channel shows. I'm glad to gain more knowledge. Goood good! ⚡⚡
@jellyii8886
@jellyii8886 Ай бұрын
Sidious grew in the force and even learned Sith magic. So anything is possible. Count Dooku's potential in the force was capped at some point.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Ай бұрын
Legends EU Dooku was known to have the same force potential as Yoda or very very close enough so either slightly or moderately higher then Windus yeah.
@MikeChamp
@MikeChamp Ай бұрын
Dooku never fully embraced the dark side. He was more of a dark jedi than a true sith.
@mikedobson1678
@mikedobson1678 Ай бұрын
No such thing as
@pupper5580
@pupper5580 13 күн бұрын
Sidious: Another Dark Jedi - Vader: He will join us or die.
@Starline9212
@Starline9212 Ай бұрын
Woooooooooo yeah babyyyy Palpatine was just built different. I have questions for you lol can you do a Q and A pls?
@DeathScepter
@DeathScepter Ай бұрын
Well I have a theory, that Palpatine due to his psychopathic nature, is perfectly attuned to the dark side. thus he has no problem with the dark side. Well Dark side is similar to Steroid abuse. Yeah Steroids will make you stronger insanely strong but it will hurt your body. There is a lot of health problems with Steroids. I prefer natural strength training and martial arts training
@jonathantorres4085
@jonathantorres4085 Ай бұрын
I have a question how come count Dooku never cared about immortality like Palpatine dead and he was actually older than Palpatine, which was of course kind of weird. He was the apprentice to him.
@michaelfrazier629
@michaelfrazier629 Ай бұрын
Why did the clone wars made dookus head so extremely long and thin 😂
@masterofdisguise1112
@masterofdisguise1112 Ай бұрын
He never fully embraced the dark side. And that's exactly why his eyes never changed color.
@Ryanzires
@Ryanzires Ай бұрын
Dooku on that juice 💉
@BladeTheWatcher
@BladeTheWatcher Ай бұрын
Don't agree. I don't know of any other Sith aging rapidly just because of the use of the Dark Side. True, Sith didn't live a healthy and balanced life - I would say Jedi lived especially long lives compared to average humans, Sith - not so much. I also don't see Dooku weaker. It was Anakin growing stronger, and Dooku made the mistake Anakin made at their first fight - he underestimated them just because he beat them with ease the first time. This was all calculated from Palpatine's side - he wanted Anakin to win and kill Dooku. He was sure that Anakin will do it. It was all part of the plan. I would say all down to Dooku's dilemma as an anti-villain - he knew that Palpatine will destroy the world as they knew it, that he is the real enemy, but with all his machinations he couldn't find a way to overturn him. He was trapped by Palpatine and the dark side, doomed to fail. He even knew it and told Kenobi - "It is too late for me now my friend." Same as with Anakin - if you go to the dark side for help, it will trap you forever. That is the deal with the devil - you always lose yourself, only question is in what way. All the Sith have their own tragedy written somewhere.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Ай бұрын
Not sure as much about Disney Canon but in Legends Expanded Universe Dooku had either a midichichlorian count almost as high as Yodas or at the same reach as The Green Grandmaster so depending on which one that would make his count either a little or neutrally higher then Maces. But since there was actually a source that said Dooku would of been a jedi master on the same level of Yoda had he not exited the organization and that he was a unique case within the jedi order for that and for being universally respected I am going to say Dooku was equal to Yodas potential it would also make more sense of why Yoda felt he himself was best suited to train a infant Dooku sensing that Dookus natural force connection was riddling even for himself to comprehend among other claims noting that Yoda took Dooku for his mega high force potential mostly also helped he went to the temple at a fitting age unlike Anakin yeah.
@burmecian123
@burmecian123 Ай бұрын
He was trained wrong as a joke.
@MysticTroll
@MysticTroll Ай бұрын
"I'm bleeding, making me the victor!"
@Cmoth040
@Cmoth040 Ай бұрын
Palpatine is a dark side capacitor, absorbing the pain and misery, growing in power as the dark side does. His skill in Sith sorcery gives him this ability. It's why Vader's roll changed after he was crippled by Obi Wan. He went from apprentice and possible heir, to a powerful source of negative energy, Palpatine feeding off it like a parasite.
@donstarlancer
@donstarlancer Ай бұрын
Yea Dooku spent about 65 years basically being a Paladin and then suddenly becomes a dark Sorcerer channeling lightning through his body. That’s got to take a massive toll physically, spiritually and mentally
@crazymulatto8981
@crazymulatto8981 Ай бұрын
If Dooku had fully committed to the Dark Side, Sidious would've been in a heap of shit at some point, in fact, everybody would've been 😬
@markkgladu
@markkgladu Ай бұрын
i barely miss your content thx for daily holos
@MrEffectfilms
@MrEffectfilms Ай бұрын
That's a good What If I'd like to do, "What if Palpatine trained Dooku as his one intended apprentice?". Assuming this happens instead of him finding Maul then by the time of The Clone Wars Dooku easily could be rivaling EU era Grandmaster Luke.
@JadusMoltriel
@JadusMoltriel Ай бұрын
That's a massive stretch. Dooku was strong, but he didn't have nearly the same potential of force power as the Skywalkers or Palpatine. There is no version of events in which Dooku could reach the power levels of Darth Sidious or EU's Grandmaster Luke, both of whom are the two most powerful non-divine beings in Star Wars, with the only other being in galactic history having a greater potential than them being Anakin.
@MrEffectfilms
@MrEffectfilms Ай бұрын
@@JadusMoltriel The thing is the force is like a muscle, the more you practice and meditate the stronger you get. Dooku was already insanely powerful after such a short while training in the dark side, if he had decades to do this there's no telling how powerful he could have become.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Ай бұрын
​@@JadusMoltrielDooku still had a force potential that was equal to Yodas own in Legends EU or almost as high if not at parity just imagine if he also had the same natural life span as Yoda though yeah.
@JadusMoltriel
@JadusMoltriel Ай бұрын
@@matthewmann8969 True, but you do realize if we base this off that scaling, Dooku still doesn't come close to Sidious. Palpatine had a higher Midichlorian count than Yoda, by a few THOUSAND. The only Star Wars character who had a higher count, and thus Force Potential, than Palpatine, was Anakin. Luke and Leia received a shared amount of Anakin's Force Potential/ Midichlorian count, and were either around the same as Palpatine or slightly lower. My point stands: Dooku could not have reached the peak powers of either Sidious or the Skywalkers, no matter how hard he trained, because there IS a ceiling to potential power, and Palpatine and the Skywalkers had far higher ceilings than anyone else who wasn't divine.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Ай бұрын
​@@JadusMoltrielYou are right while Dooku may of had a count equal to Yodas within Legends Expanded Universe so both would have either a slight or moderate amount above Windu whose count was still high enough for himself and many in the order to think he could be the chosen one along with Dooku, Yoda, And of course Anakin being the only three in the orders history to have a count higher then Windus own not even Yaddle who is of Yodas species nor Plo Koon And Sha Koon whose own species are known for there far above average natural connections to the force had a count as high as those four Windu probably had a count heavily above Plo Koons/Sha Koons and one a little more so heavy on top of Yaddles also the only one known to have a equal force potential to Sidious was Galen Marek and the only higher ones being Most Of The Skywalkers, The Solos Under Leias Line, And The Force Deities yeah.
@Rickybobby427xyz
@Rickybobby427xyz Ай бұрын
Dark side degradation is why the siths eyes turn yellow. They go jondice
@EAcapuccino
@EAcapuccino Ай бұрын
01:21 - Shouldn't that be - Return of the Jedi 🤔
@grantponciano9386
@grantponciano9386 Ай бұрын
Because Palpatine never taught Dooku his secret: "Unlimited Power!" Technique... lol
@noahzhellos8344
@noahzhellos8344 Ай бұрын
9:48 "Yes officer, this Sith right here."
@ricorommeldumaplin4822
@ricorommeldumaplin4822 Ай бұрын
This must be the reason why the sith is so obsessed with immortality
@mike-zt8uc
@mike-zt8uc Ай бұрын
also have to keep in mind the emperor had many clone bodies and in the books stated that the emperor would travel to his ware house where he kept his clone bodies and other items that could enhance his power.....
@Fraunzi
@Fraunzi Ай бұрын
Dude you are THE STAR WARS LORE MASTER🙏
@ItsARCHIEftw
@ItsARCHIEftw Ай бұрын
loved how you said "disciples of the force" and not "acolytes" lol
@851r01
@851r01 Ай бұрын
Why cybernetics were such a drawback for Darth Vader not only of Force level, but also on a physical level, making him much less agile and swift, but General Grievus' cybernetics enhanced his strength, dexterity and reaction to a degree he, despite not being a force user, was a menace even for a group of jedi knights? Why is Vader so slow and confined in his movement, but Grievus is swift and agile?
@f.e.areproduce5298
@f.e.areproduce5298 Ай бұрын
While Grievous was enhanced to full potential or what Palpetine sees as such, Palpetine likely had his reasons to avoid Darth Vader reaching such a state, as Darth Vader's potential was so much if allowed to, Darth Vader could overthrow the Emperor, so Palpetine made sure to avoid that. What Darth Vader did on Death Star II wasn't overthrowing, it was unexpected self sacrificing redemption, in a way Palpetine succeeded in this front, but failed in other front as well, they all can't be gems, can't they? That's my idea.
@marcelchenier
@marcelchenier Ай бұрын
New here. Great video, Do you happen to have a similar break down of how the Light side of the Force is used? Cheers from Canada!
@overknightacention39
@overknightacention39 Ай бұрын
The Lightside of the Force is what ketp Dooku so viable in his old. When he rejected the light fully, he sacrficed hoa vitality.
@nathanskywalker1536
@nathanskywalker1536 Ай бұрын
Makes sense Palpatine was learning the teachings of the dark side since he was in his twenties he has all that knowledge and training which made him a powerful sith Lord with Dooku was only 10 years plus he was 70 when he started learning the teachings of the dark side which put a toll on his body but if he trained around Palpatine s age he would be just as powerful which is crazy to think about
@skunkworks-pp6lx
@skunkworks-pp6lx Ай бұрын
The emperor is the CHOSEN ONE " one on one he never lost
@Arclight104
@Arclight104 Ай бұрын
Dooku was an idiot. He should have seen Sidious betrayal a mile off. He also failed as a Sith since its the duty of the apprentice to plot to overthrow the Master...Dooku was too loyal and seemed to want to be an equal with Sidious.
@headstrongbachelor3152
@headstrongbachelor3152 Ай бұрын
You forget to mention that Sidious was a black hole in the force from birth that taught him instinctively to drain life essence from people around him and he became so skilled at it that he could consume a whole planet.
@παρεπίδημος
@παρεπίδημος Ай бұрын
Palpatine watched more Disney shows than Dooku
@crazygamer3210
@crazygamer3210 Ай бұрын
One thing I don’t get tho is that Dooku become an apprentice to palpatine the same year Qui Gon died. How would he be at his peak if attack of the clones was 10 years later?
@YayoHernandez-b1j
@YayoHernandez-b1j Ай бұрын
You got that right Dooku was much older and much wiser. Much more powerful than Palpatine. He should have killed them when he knew he was the Sith Lord. you think
@Zerberster213
@Zerberster213 Ай бұрын
Much older yes and much wiser also partly yes. But not more powerful for sure. Even in the dark side dooku feared Sidious more than death. Sidious had nearly unbeaten force potential, the only one coming close to him are Anakin and Yoda. Anakin was the chosen one and clearly more gifted and I think Yoda was about as gifted as he was but the dark side made Sidious superior in 1v1 combat. Dooku lost against Yoda and devoted himself to Sidious knowing that he could learn many things from him. He should have never done things Sidious asked for like creating the clones or leading a separatists movement and rather should have teamed up with the Jedi. But they were too blind to believe him. They would have said Sidious can't be a sith and wouldn't have helped, allowing the corrupt republic to be taken over by Sidious. Dooku saw that and decided to be on the winner team and he was. Only for him to realize that the winner team didn't want him anymore after his usefulness expired
@YayoHernandez-b1j
@YayoHernandez-b1j Ай бұрын
@@Zerberster213 but if he was fighting for real dooku would win right
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Ай бұрын
​@@Zerberster213EU Legends Sidious has the same force potential as Galen Merek which in turn has a moderately higher one then Dooku who has the same count as Yoda yeah.
@JadusMoltriel
@JadusMoltriel Ай бұрын
There is no scenario in which Dooku defeats Palpatine in combat, and even with treachery, it's doubtful he could outsmart Sidious. Sidious was capable of slaying Dooku at any time without breaking a sweat. Dooku realized this during one of their rare sparring sessions, and in the Clone Wars (which are 100% canon) Sidious Force Choked Dooku from across the Galaxy and Dooku was both powerless to prevent it and powerless to break free of it. Think about that. Sidious broke through Dooku's Force protection in less than a second while he was on the other end of the GALAXY. No, Dooku could not have defeated Sidious on his own. Not even remotely.
@YayoHernandez-b1j
@YayoHernandez-b1j Ай бұрын
@@JadusMoltriel yes but in some way he feared him because he duled yoda
@ronki23
@ronki23 Ай бұрын
Dooku wasn't weak : he defeated both Obi Wan and Anakin. He defeated Ventress and 2 Nightsisters at the same time
@Toshineko
@Toshineko Ай бұрын
Palpatine: Count Dooku... Join the Dark Side. It will give you strength! Dooku: Sounds good, my master. *During the battle against Anakin on the ship* Dooku: Uugh! Master, I-I feel like I'm getting too old for this! Palpatine: Gooood, gooood. Dooku: Wait, what do you mean ''Good''? *Anakin chops both of Dooku's hands* OH GAAAAAAWWDD!!!
@givesrespect8788
@givesrespect8788 Ай бұрын
Also Dookus initial plan was to learn the dark side to get close to the "sith master" and kill him anyway. So I honestly believe he was a true rival from the get go
@grandadmiralzaarin4962
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Ай бұрын
I'd point out that Sidious was also using Clone bodies as early as shortly after the formation of the Empire. Even with the clones, Sidious bodies degraded faster with each essence transfer with less and less of his sanity remaining.
@kjhuang
@kjhuang Ай бұрын
Full potential Darth Tyranus vs. full potential Darth Vader. Their battle will be legendary!
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Ай бұрын
Legends EU versions Vader should win while Dooku had count equal to Yoda or close enough Vader before the injuries had one far higher yeah.
@JustinMinckley
@JustinMinckley Ай бұрын
fascinating watch.
@WarriorNoldor
@WarriorNoldor Ай бұрын
And that's a story for another day.
@katiepersons6575
@katiepersons6575 Ай бұрын
I'd love to see episode 3 Anakin versus episode 2 Dooku!
@jeffreyherndon5259
@jeffreyherndon5259 Ай бұрын
Apparently the Dark Side can also literally blind you, example Sidious on Exegol!!
@user-rw2dq3vp9t
@user-rw2dq3vp9t 17 күн бұрын
the dark side is literally burning you at both ends
@trentjamison5380
@trentjamison5380 Ай бұрын
Are there examples of older sith that were assassin / stealth type fighters? I mean, in games / lore there's usually the pure force users, the bulky tanks and the fast assassins. Palpatine would be a force user. Sion, Vader or Malgus come to mind as tanks whose body withers but still retain their tankiness via the force. Maul comes to mind as an assassin but he slowed down. Were there any speed/assassin type sith that used the force to retain their style in their older years?
@JadusMoltriel
@JadusMoltriel Ай бұрын
Ajunta Pall. Although the lore varies on him. Some lore has him as what you asked about, other lore considered him a Juggarnaut. Since his first mainstream introduction in the lore was Kotor 1, and that presented him as a speedy-type assassin, I'd go with that label more than the tanky one. An argument could be made for Exar Kun, but like Sidious, he could honestly be considered elite amongst every category you listed. Yes, I know, it sounds odd to think of Sidious as a tanky juggarnaut of a lightsaber warrior, but the crazy thing is, he was 100% capable of this, he just chose not to because it wasn't necessary due to his Force Power. Even in old age, Sidious could easily don some armor like Malgus and wreck a bunch of Jedi at once while wielding dual lightsabers. He used the Force to grant himself inhuman speed and strength. Exar Kun was similar, though not QUITE as powerful as Sidious, regardless of what some fanboys wish to think.
@JO-iv7tl
@JO-iv7tl Ай бұрын
So dooku was the beach eroding from each wave of the dakrside. While Palpatine was the wind sock. (I will contemplate this further.)
@Rickil96trollencio
@Rickil96trollencio Ай бұрын
Dooku not was fully commited to the dark side.
@nurseactual
@nurseactual Ай бұрын
Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe ole Palpy was a dark side nexus in and of himself? That would explain a lot of things. A master of force drain, gaining stength like a black hole. Just a thought.
@TheStupendousWave
@TheStupendousWave Ай бұрын
Dang, I’ve never thought of it like that, you’re probably right.
@benschoonover885
@benschoonover885 Ай бұрын
Hot take, but I don't think Dooku was ever a true sith, just a really powerful dark jedi.
@schmittiTV
@schmittiTV Ай бұрын
Well he never got yellow eyes and he never fully embraced the dark side of the force
@jacobdrolet4262
@jacobdrolet4262 Ай бұрын
Amazing
@givesrespect8788
@givesrespect8788 Ай бұрын
Maybe you and theory should do that what if👀
@thomasparque7834
@thomasparque7834 Ай бұрын
I think Sidous and Plaguies were right to age their dark side powers like a fine wine but they were fools to ignore their bodies like the way they did, if they let refine their powers and kept their bodies more in shape like Dooku did they might be even more powerful in long run. Keeping themselves more in shape could have slowed down dark side toll if only slightly.
@MichaelB07
@MichaelB07 Ай бұрын
Would you be able to make a What If about: What if Emperor Palpatine won in the Dark Empire comic series and successfully possesses the infant body of Leia's second newborn child, Anakin Solo?
@Rickybobby427xyz
@Rickybobby427xyz Ай бұрын
Palpatine is a good remodel
@tommoore2012
@tommoore2012 Ай бұрын
So despite Force Healing being a rare exclusive light side ability, it appears that the light side offers a minor form of it to all those who live by the light side of the Force. It offers vitality every force sensitives. That despite how a Jedi ages, he/she shall remain fast and strong so long as they do not turn from the light.
@Furonanator139
@Furonanator139 Ай бұрын
The dark side heals but it also kills it's user? lol
@MrDiplomatSwag
@MrDiplomatSwag Ай бұрын
Did the jedi not come up with natural force youth prolonging techniques? I feel like if the dark side scars you then the light should heal you aka keep you younger.
@hopelessdecoy
@hopelessdecoy Ай бұрын
What would happen if Dooku had his way as a Sith and everything in the story went to his plan? (Starting after QuiGon's death, since he didn't want him dead)
@rayswiatek5948
@rayswiatek5948 Ай бұрын
All star wars question can be answered by the script.
@RayOrly-fs3gr
@RayOrly-fs3gr Ай бұрын
Not to mention Christopher Lee was older than Ian McDermid
@--Sama-
@--Sama- Ай бұрын
In the original canon (the EU) Palpatine was stronger when he became younger in Dark Empire with the clone body. Since I don' t watch Disney's alternate universe I don't know about if it works the same way.
@kurakuson
@kurakuson Ай бұрын
What if the Duke had found a younger body via conscious transfer?
@gabrielavalos6777
@gabrielavalos6777 Ай бұрын
With dark side degradation being known, I'm curious as to why Maul didn't age at an accelerated rate. Especially considering that Sodious took him as a child.
@josephalonzo1059
@josephalonzo1059 Ай бұрын
That simply comes down to two little things... His race and his inherent connection to the dark side being of the same race as Mother Tausand (can't remember how to spell it)
@JadusMoltriel
@JadusMoltriel Ай бұрын
Mother Talzin. Maul wasn't human, so he ages differently. He's a Zabrak from Dathomir, the male version of the Nightsisters, and his mother was the most powerful Nightsister alive. Their race is inherantly connected to the Dark Side, like the Sith race and the Rakata, so Dark Side Degradation affects them differently.
@Artporductions
@Artporductions Ай бұрын
W video idea
@darkglobe406
@darkglobe406 Ай бұрын
the title of this video is wrong . dooku never grew weaker with age . on the contrary he received significant power boost after going dark as seen in AoTC in his confrontation with yoda and also during TCW where he casualy outduels the likes of anakin , obi wan ventress and savage . it is just that paplatine and anakin grew even more powerful and faster than dooku could ... anakin by the time he "tastes" the dark side during his invisible hand fight with dooku was boosted to the level dooku could no longer keep up with . (not to mention dooku was instructed not to kill anakin by palpatine and by the time he realized just how strong anakin have become it was already too late for him)
@JamesMC04
@JamesMC04 Ай бұрын
My guess: Palpatine was using the same dark side he had always used, so he became ever more abundantly evil the more he grew into it, and the more he developed & matured in evil. Evil was his native element. Dooku, OTOH, having been a very powerful user of the light side, was doing something deeply unnatural to him in embracing the dark side; so the more he grew into it, the weaker he became. Evil was not his native element; the light, was.
@jeffreyherndon5259
@jeffreyherndon5259 Ай бұрын
Ok, this is the third time I’ve asked this question, are there Star Wars canon books on Kindle?
@albertlamar5938
@albertlamar5938 Ай бұрын
I always thought of the dark side like steroids. Dooku was like a lifelong clean athlete who started taking steroids in old age.
@alpd5329
@alpd5329 Ай бұрын
I need the background music...
@LokiTheClever
@LokiTheClever Ай бұрын
Dooku is Ginyu Palpatine is Frieza (though the power level in starwars is far less powerful hell Dooku knows Essence transfer so this makes SENSE)
@bensgalley1368
@bensgalley1368 Ай бұрын
Tue funny thing is the more you learn of both orders the more I suspect Darth Triea was the secrect hero of the galaxy only to be stopped by a well meaning but mistaken individual
@Kjos_jax
@Kjos_jax Ай бұрын
It's simply because dooku was never truly using the dark side. He was manipulating the dark side for his own means, but he was always a lightside user. He never truly did anything evil and that's why his eyes never turned Sith
@YoungHarlem110352
@YoungHarlem110352 Ай бұрын
His eyes did turn Sith a LOT. Towards the end of the Clone Wars animated bro. He was literally out there tweaking as Anakin was beginning to match him.
@Kjos_jax
@Kjos_jax Ай бұрын
@@YoungHarlem110352 The animated series are not the movies. Many people don't even watch animated Star wars... very kiddy
@YoungHarlem110352
@YoungHarlem110352 Ай бұрын
@@Kjos_jax the animated series is canon. So, it doesn't matter whether or not you've watched it. You're still missing the story in its totality.
@Kjos_jax
@Kjos_jax Ай бұрын
@@YoungHarlem110352 I've watched some but it's gate keeping to expect someone to follow thousands of hours of shows that are considered canon when the movies are what are being discussed unless otherwise stated.
@YoungHarlem110352
@YoungHarlem110352 Ай бұрын
@@Kjos_jax is it? Because usually the comics and novelizations are always in contention in any Star Wars debate naturally as well. So, no. Tbh can't subscribe to that thought either
@dino_mt_greenwood
@dino_mt_greenwood Ай бұрын
I see what you did with the title.
@His_Name_Was_King
@His_Name_Was_King Ай бұрын
Dooku was my favorite-
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