Why Revan is the ONLY Perfect Master For Anakin (FULL POTENTIAL) - Star Wars Explained

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[@marcellinma6169]

Anakin: So, it's OK for a jedi to marry? Revan: Sure, why not? Maybe one of your grandkids will be Grandmaster or something!

[@m3tr0id86]

Sounds about right in a nutshell.

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

So true, I mean look at Satile lol

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

I have no idea if I spelled that right, I'm dealing with allergy hell and can't think very clearly 😔

[@gabrielandjavierpinales3689]

Luke Skywalker became grandmaster for his New Jedi Order after the Yuuzan Vong War. He surpassed Yoda as a powerful Jedi.

[@BeYera3]

I think either Revan the Redeemed or Qui-Gon Jin would have been the perfect match as master for a young Anakin.

[@newhybrid101]

If Qui Gon hadn't died it would have been a nightmare for Sidious

[@tylergee1405]

Qui-Gon's death was pivotal for Anakin. Obi was a brother to him but Anakin needed a father figure. Qui-Gon's demeanor and view of the force were unorthodox in the jedi order, so was Ani.

[@joshuarobinson6011]

Qui-gon dying was vital to palpatines plans which is why maul vs qui-gon is the duel of the fates, because it’s the duel to decide anakins (and the Jedi’s) fate as if qui-gon wins he’d reach his full potential in the light but if maul wins then palpatines plan can continue and anakin will fall to the dark side

[@pyrocasten]

Imo qui-gon would have been the better choice didn't revan go schizo?

[@protozoanpro]

@@joshuarobinson6011damn bro I’ve been so into star wars all my life and honestly I never though of it like that, bravo vinc- wait I mean

[@JO-iv7tl]

If possible the best master in Anakin's lifetime was a balance between quigon and dooku. The irony is dooku and Anakin were naturally drawn to each other. Had similar end goals and aligned potential in life; experiences as a prodigy or unruly student. If corruption by existing dogmas never existed they were the master and student for each other.

[@lucymaughan1540]

but then he would not be partly on the light side

[@futurdom]

The idea that Anakin spent equal time on the light and dark side of the force is blowing my mind right now. As the chosen one, he was meant to bring balance to the force, and only by experiencing both sides of it could he finally achieve that. Best arc.

[@exile6688]

Which is probably the same for Freedon Nad.

[@rjalcatraz]

Except balance in the force is the eradication of the Sith. George has explained this in many interviews. In fact it’s all over KZbin to the point that I can’t believe people still make this mistake.

[@Daniel1.1]

I don't get why everyone gets this wrong but, Anakin didn't become a Jedi until he was 9. He spent 13 years as a Jedi, from the age of 9 to 22, not 22 years entirely.

[@julianmcmillan2867]

There's also the fact that the Jedi made Anakin a Clone Wars general. This was the perfect context for his rage and fear to fester. Of course he loved being a general, but the Jedi should have known better. What do you think is going to happen if a powerful Jedi with an unstable mind who has been pouring his feelings into war for the past three years whom you deny the right to have feelings is going to do? Yeah, he's going to explode.

[@jordancourse5102]

Exactly, all the trauma he experienced during the clone wars too.

[@dannyakrs]

Great take I never thought about it that way 😮

[@julianmcmillan2867]

@@jordancourse5102 Yeah, not to take the responsibility off of Anakin, because he is ultimately the one who made those choices and there is no excuse for murdering the younglings or hurting Padmé like that. But his entire life as a Jedi and eventually as a general were the perfect storm for his fall to the Dark Side🤷🏻‍♂️. Talk about a mentally ill soldier back from Vietnam who now also has PTSD; perfect storm.

[@julianmcmillan2867]

@@dannyakrs Yeah, it's scary when you realise that the Clone Wars both provided an outlet for Anakin but also helped to drag him deeper into the war inside his mind; conditioned for war, now with no war to fight, he retreats into his own mind and fights the war that exists there. And how does he fight that war? The only way he knows how to fight one; aggression and violence.

[@jordancourse5102]

@@julianmcmillan2867 yea he let palpatine guilt him into joining the sith and just said fuck it when he lost his limbs

[@user-ep7ml2ix6q]

I honestly think that Revan and Bastilla training Anakin together would of been the best bet Revan understood how to find the balance between compassion and passion and Bastilla understood how love could save someone from the dark side

[@kagekun1198]

Agree. Revan's unique experience aside, Bastilla is living proof that love can conquer the Dark Side within

[@jeffjohnson1966]

The Bendu would have been the perfect master for Anakin. He would have taught him the Force in its entirety and not from a dogmatic point of view.... I dare argue that he would have trained Anakin to his fullest potential before the Clone Wars even started.

[@TheFireHawk7]

I think that Qui-Gon would have guided him to much the same conclusion. Some of his first words to Anakin: "Don't think, feel." That is the essence of Anakin - impulsive, yes, instinctive, yes, and from the heart. He's not the cerebral Jedi that Obi-Wan is, and that works. Anakin should have been a Jedi, but the pathfinder for a new breed of Jedi.

[@joelw2rapfanatic]

I always thought that if force sensitives reincarnate, then anakin was the reincarnation of revan. I thought they were going to explore this with rey being the next reincarnation of the chosen one in the sequels, but sadly they chose not to go that route.

[@Jwine95]

I wouldn’t say Darth Revan would be a good master for him, but a post KOTOR Revan would have after experiencing the light , dark, and then balance between.

[@s0ph053]

Darth revan did have rather pressing concerns on their mind. The most important things I think post kotor revan could provide is support of relationships, a more nuanced view of the clone wars, and training in resisting the temptation of the dark side.

[@gabrielandjavierpinales3689]

I think Darth Revan is always the same Revan who saved the Republic from the Mandalorians. In Kotor 2, we learned that he never fell, only playing a role as a Sith Lord to reform the Jedi and Republic into a Sith Empire strong enough to survive the might of the True Sith.

[@CoopMy]

Fantastic video! I have never thought of the "balance of the force" in this way. It's a festinating theory, and very thought provoking.

[@SuikodenGR]

There was this really interesting Fanfiction, where Anakin wasn't a Jedi, but a Champion Podracer throughout the Galaxy, based on the Star Wars Podracer N64 Game. Its an amazing read.

[@Enordenlighan]

Thank you for all youre knowledge and visdom. you fed my curiosity about the star wars univerce and history for a long time. you are doing a fantastik job with youre YT channel. So entertaining and informative. Keep up the good work, and may the force be with you

[@Gor85]

I completely agree. Passion and love can work together. Balance. Luke offered love and compassion to Anakin. Anakin loves Ahsoka the same way. I think the Jedi held him back. May the Force be with you too😊

[@djnavarro3212]

Master Revan would’ve been the perfect choice to train Anakin if we’re still alive at this time to help Qui Gon Jinn

[@Necroscat]

I also feel Revan is the Perfect Master for Sabine Wren, because he truly cares about the Mandalore people & wears their armor as a way of showing his support. He knows a lot about their culture & why they hate the Jedi so much & he hates the Jedi order for basically the same reasons. Sabine Wren, I think, would respond to this in a very positive way & look up to him & learn all she could from him. I think she feels negatively towards the Jedi too, & partially blames them for her lose of Ezra Bridger which is why she went with Baylan Skoll to find him. Through Revan, Sabine Wren could get more in touch with her Mandalore history & traditions & feel more open to learning to connect to the force.

[@exile6688]

Not to mention Revan's Mandalorian by blood and code.

[@aurelian2668]

@@exile6688Yep, his also the Mandolorian killer

[@nektariosh3470]

Excellent analysis. Thanks

[@theseekerofancienttruth3873]

Anakin was actually only a Jedi for approximately 13 Years, as he was 9 when he joined, and 22 when he "Became" Vader.

[@futurdom]

Yes but presumably he was still on the light side of the force as a young child. I think that is what he is getting at, that Anakain spent equal time as light and dark sided.

[@Gilgamesksiklls]

The time he spent as a jedi was irrelevant what mattered was that he was in a home with a loving family and that was considered being in the 'light'

[@lindontaylor1525]

I personally blame Mace windu four most of Anakin's resentment towards the council. Windu always seen to have it out for Anakin. My favorite theory as to why it's the Mace windu believed he was the chosen one and viewed Anakin as a challenge to that belief.

[@brokenbridge6316]

One of my favorite SW "What if" channels did a "What if" where Anakin was trained by Revan. It's a set of video's that is quite good.

[@seanprahphet]

Word up! Love this breakdown, thanks for sharing

[@danieljohnston4960]

I think that at the beginning of the revenge of the sith, Anikan was at his peak in the light side. But the blend of events from a blending of truama and palpatine using that truama against him drove him to the dark side. I think the Jedi, seeing what he could become, made the mistake of pushing him away and not supporting him. Gui-gon was the only one who would of raised anikan right.

[@alexsantiago3181]

The Jedi held Anakin back, because they wanted him to be a Great Jedi they denied his sense of Justice, Love and Loyalty. But in reality Anakin was destined for SO much more than bring a simple Jedi. And the Sith did the opposite, granting him freedom and power, but dragging him down with Grief, Hatred and Fear.

[@dannyakrs]

Great vid as always thanks 😊

[@Darth_Traitorous]

Now they can officially change the end of The last Jedi by making Anakin fight palpatine one last time. And bring true balance to the force. Not what we got

[@robertocaetano4945]

Without Luke Skywalker and his New Jedi Order im nor care for the sequels.

[@jordanlyons8453]

Will you move on from that, Jesus Christ.

[@Darth_Traitorous]

@@jordanlyons8453 no until they say Rey and Ben died and Anakin showed back up in full-on ghost form materializes a human form then him and palpatine duke it out and he wins.

[@stepabuv842]

I love this theory that love is the balance that abounded in Anakin. With that, since both the Jedi and Sith were out of balance, neither (at that time) could’ve helped Anakin achieve his full potential. Love sparks anger and compassion; selflessness, patience, passion, and many aspects that both Jedi and Sith embrace. However, the Jedi restrict some aspects of love and the Sith embrace aspects that work against love (greed, selfishness, etc) Therefore, and insightful Jedi who understood Anakin could’ve trained him properly, but a Sith could not

[@jujumurphy8893]

Good analogy! I see a lot of similarities between the Prodigal Knight and The Chosen One! Both driven by love and passion.

[@Celanna192]

I was watching some clips of Grogu, and I think love is also where he will find his balance. Asohka was afraid of Grogu's attachment to Din Djarin, but after watching this video, I think his love for Din Djarin will help him see his greatest growth as a balanced force wielder, and a mandalorian.

[@ayushjha2345]

KZbin is the best source for knowing Revan

[@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134]

Great break down here 🔥

[@brianridlon4160]

Absolutely 100% Raven would’ve been a far superior teacher to Anakin Skywalker . And it’s simply because Raven completely allowed himself to be set free to be able to understand the light side of the force and the Darkside of the force and be able to answer these questions better than anyone else in the Star Wars world so there would be absolutely no better master for Anakin Skywalker

[@ATalesTruth-]

This is a great video It speaks truth regardless if it’s just a theory as it still makes sense non teb less And I know revan is a popular character But this video was more focused around anakin’s life would have been perfect by revan’s philosophy Rather then what he revan did train anakin in the prequels and during wars(assuming revan was with bastila and after kotor) I think the next video you should focus on how revan wouro have trained anakin and what anakin’s views of revan would be if revan were to take anakin under his wing And regardless if this is about revan or not Love and the idea of balance makes sense Because light is selfless dark is selfish But in the middle you get empathy and love because it requires you to care about other more than yourself and care to the point it becomes personal aka centered around what the individual cares about not just the greater majority

[@stepabuv842]

I love this theory that love is the balance that abounded in Anakin. With that, since both the Jedi and Sith were out of balance, neither (at that time) could’ve helped Anakin achieve his full potential. Love sparks anger and compassion; selflessness, patience, passion, and many aspects that both Jedi and Sith embrace. However, the Jedi restrict some aspects of love and the Sith embrace aspects that work against love (greed, selfishness, etc) Therefore, an insightful Jedi who understood Anakin could’ve trained him properly, but a Sith could never. I believe Qui Gon’s death was not the will of the force. He died because he was following the council’s orders. If he would’ve lived, he would have left the order to train Anakin since the council already denied it. Then he would’ve been able to train Anakin properly.

[@jumpysniper]

Imagine that, the past year I've kept seeing videos disproving "grey Jedi" as a concept even possible in the universe, and when the poster boy for the franchise basically becomes the literal definition of one post mortem it all makes perfect sense, and we rejoice. Now the question is if it is possible for the balance he has found to be taught to others, maybe not as strong as him as he is a singular anomalous being born of the force itself, but if he can find balance after experiencing both, then theoretically other characters could too.

[@charlestownsend9280]

With qui gon guiding anakin he would have found balance, had a more healthy relationships with his wife (less possessive) and master (more open) and reformed the jedi back towards what they should be (less linked with the senate and more in tune with the living force). Qui gon dying pushed the force into moving more towards the death of the jedi as the only path to balancing the force. When it comes to love, possessive love leads to the darkside, a healthier love leads to the light, anakin fell because of one and was redeemed because of the other.

[@ATalesTruth-]

True But if one teacher he could have that would live it be revan since revan didn’t truly count as a sith or Jedi At best he is a Jedi of the Caliber of Luke’s new Jedi order

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

Yeah, because Anakin totally listened to Qui-Gon when the latter tried to stop him from murdering the Tusken ppl

[@ATalesTruth-]

@@decepticonxhunter4850 well Anakin thought it was just in his head apparently

[@alexsantiago3181]

I cant help but cry. I love Star Wars and Anakin is so tragic

[@user-dg2ub7rn8i]

TL;DW In Harry Potter, love is the power the Dark Lord knows not. In Star Wars, love is the power the Jedi and Sith know not. In the end, the dark is generous, and it is patient, and it always wins - but in the heart of its strength lies its weakness: one lone candle is enough to hold it back. Love is more than a candle. Love can ignite the stars.

[@saveritas731]

Love is always the answer! ❤

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

I agree with this 10000%

[@Anska5126]

An interesting thought and one I agree with personally. The Jedi didn't trust Anakin or believe in him and the Sith used him. Even before the suit, Knightfall Vader was talking about overthrowing the emperor in revenge of the Sith. He didn't want to dominate the galaxy, he wanted things to be neutral. No Jedi who put him down all the time and had hypocritical beliefs at the best of times and no Sith who use their strength to kill, hurt and dominate others to consolidate power. Anakin saw this at the end of Return of the Jedi when Luke redeemed him through Love and then fulfilled his prophecy of destroying the Sith and bringing Balance. After all Luke was basically the last Jedi until Disney interfered and so Luke rebuilt the order alone with his own teachings of Love, compassion and true balance. Had anakin had a more suitable teacher and this is no dis to Obi Wan, Anakin would have turned out to be far stronger than he was and far more accepting of things even to the point of going to the council and being like "yeah, so what if I'm married lol. It makes me stronger and more wise and understanding of Love and Compassion" Perhaps not in those words but the same idea. The Jedi would not have liked that but what are they gonna do? If they try to kill Anakin for it then Akakin would at least take a few down with him, formed a Jedi Rebellion or escape. If they banish Anakin then he would have earned a yellow Lightsaber for the new chapter in his life bringing balance and seeking out corruption wherever he found it. Honestly I'm not sure what scenario would have instilled more fear into both Sith and Jedi alike as without them Anakin would only continue to grow with Padme and their children before reaching Revan levels of power most likely

[@j_andrzejewskigaming6491]

I would love to see interactions between Luke and the fully balanced Anakin.

[@MrYikes-dk2mb]

Only? I disagree, but perhaps the BEST I can probably see.

[@jehartwick]

I think it’s worth mentioning that Anakin”a relationship with Obi Wan was actually similar to that of Obi Wan’s with Qui Gon. They struggled in the early years and then had deep break through that created a strong bond between them. It was not all roses. Qui Gon almost abandoned Obi Wan to join the Jedi Council. It occurred to me a few months ago, that Anakin disobeying the Jedi and being with Padme was also the will of the Force. Yoda saw there were questions with Anakin's training So there is always this focus on Anakin's training being the reason he fell to the dark side. But what if it was always known in the force that he had the potential to fall. And what if other things were put in his path to help him achieve his redemption and ultimately balance, even from the very beginning. Maybe it was the will of the Force that he meet Padme just as much that he meet Qui Son. Without Padme, there is no Luke and Leia and it was the love of his children that made him turn away from the dark side. And it's no surprise that we see him exercise his "chosen one" balance with Ahsoka, who while Luke and Leia are the kids he created with Padme, she is the kid he actually raised and loved like a younger sister or child. What if it at the end of the day it didn't matter who trained Anakin, Qui Gon or Obi Wan. What if Qui Gon's job was simply to find the boy and it was the will of the force that he die. Yes, yes, I know...Duel of the Fates...but maybe it was about Palpatine losing an apprentice...Obi Wan summoning the strength to kill Maul. So many things were decided in those lightsaber duels. I don't think the council wouldn have allowed Obi Wan to train Anakin if he hadn't killed Maul. Finally Anakin explains it to us when he explains it to Ahsoka. No one was responsible for his fate but him and his choices. And it was understanding that he had that power of choice that allowed him to find balance in the force. Why did the Jedi ultimately fall? I think at the end of the day it's because they under estimated the power of the dark side. Anakin/Vader said it himself to Luke.. And Palpatine lived it. His maneuvers were possible b/c the Jedi under estimated him and the power of the dark side. So much so that they put Anakin, who they knew had a tendency to be rash and volatile and color outside the lines, right in his scope when they sent him to spy on the Chancellor. Windu voices this under estimation perfectly when he says that if Anakin is in fact the "chosen one" he should be able to handle it. It was arrogant thinking like that that both kept the Jedi from sensing the Dark Side better and pushed Anakin to it. B/c it was treatment like that from his peers and Jedi that helped push Anakin toward Palpatine and his fears.

[@newhybrid101]

Revan was pretty much the prototype Chosen One

[@ATalesTruth-]

Unofficially yes

[@newhybrid101]

​@@ATalesTruth-yeah i graduated from Trust Me Bro University. Same place the people are sure Anakin replaced the Father graduated in

[@Haidonomus_Rex]

Thank you, Kratos, very cool.

[@newhybrid101]

​@@Haidonomus_RexYou are welcome boy

[@cadeshanley218]

Can you do that holocron on Mace Windu's mental state throughout the Clone Wars? Also a shout out for reminding you of that idea Master?

[@AGENT00CULO]

Great theory on Anakin

[@islandmaster5064]

We need a Revan thriology

[@devonhedinger4132]

That would have been brilliant❤

[@michaelrobertson4896]

This has actually given me an idea for a fan fiction. What if Anakin was trained by the Spirit of Revan, how would this effect the Galaxy and the course of events as we know it. I wonder if anyone would be interested in reading it. If enough people are interested then I might consider publishing it on my FanFiction account after I finish writing it. To anyone interested in seeing it please leave a like and keep an eye on Lost Galaxy Productions (my FanFiction channel).

[@reyvillegasjr166]

Revan mastered both light and dark,that made him even stronger and a allowed for a stronger connection to the force "Hero, villain, savior, conqueror ,you are neither of the light or the dark Revan" the ancient Jehdai were correct to study and embrace both the Ashla and the Bogen.Revan training Anakin In the afterlife would be be hella sick!! He's probably the only being that most knowledgeable in true balance of the force

[@kingshadow8782]

Cool!

[@michaelleadford5960]

PLO koon would’ve been a great substitute for qui gon jin or revean not to mention plo could use lightning plus many other mixed force abilities (light or dark) and was one of the few “council” members who could go toe to toe with grand master yoda by blade and force prowess

[@BrickDaniels-qu7bz]

I like how Obi-wan keeps his saber ignited after Anakin stabs that dude in the back.

[@willdavis3802]

It has been stated that Qui-Gons death was needed for Sidious and his masters very survival. Darth Plagious foresaw that Qui-gon training Anakin would eradicate the Sith utterly.

[@beastmonster7734]

Before I watch this, I think it would be interesting to learn how each main master would be if Anakin was their padawan. Who would be the best or worst fit?

[@bathanh150]

His ancestor teach him that why is always perfect

[@keighlancoe5933]

Alot of people would hate this, but i'd love it if they would cast Hayden Christensen as Revan if ever they canonise him and decide to make a spinoff series. The 'Chosen One' could be like the literal champion of the Force, who ends being born again every few thousand years when a Sith Lord gets too powerful and the Jedi are too out of the picture to deal with it or part of the problem themselves. Whenever he is born, he ends up growing up to look like Anakin and gets inhabited by his Force Ghost (though always temporarily forgets his past lives until he joins the Force again in physical death.) Revan could have been the 'first' Chosen One, then Anakin the second. Eventually, we see Revan unmasked and...it's Anakin. It would be cool af in my opinion, though it may take some getting used to for some people.

[@islandmaster5064]

How about the Jedi Lords?

[@JaysonVaughn]

@@islandmaster5064 what are the jedi lords

[@islandmaster5064]

@JaysonVaughn Jedi Lords were jedi who were given systems and/or entire sectors to protect outside of the republic in Legends. They acted as governors, warriors and protectors of the people with the blessing of the jedi council and the Republic government at the timw

[@blackheartthedarklord6428]

I have my money down for Keanu Reeves as Revan.

[@maxpayne930]

In order to get complete wisdom u need to dip u balls both in water and the acid in order to grasp it all so to speak balance is the key and that what Revan before and Anakin after did good stuff

[@biglawngnome]

I just had a thought: Ahsoka's blade marks will forever be etched into theMandalorian Throne Room from her battle with Maul. Seeing that in an episode out of context would be so hyyyype

[@WellProgrammedBot]

New mix setup?

[@tylamb4379]

I think that was the true tragedy of Anakin, not his fall to the dark side, but his growing up in the restrictive Jedi Order and not being able to come into his own.

[@stuarthalliday7665]

I think that either revan or qui gon would’ve been better than obi wan basically because they both were able to see the force as a whole. Obi wan just followed what ever anyone told him. Anakin would not have had the turmoil that he did if he had either Reven or Qui Gon he would have had much better control. Please more Anakin uploads they are so good. 😊

[@auroraflash]

He would severe Anakin‘s jaw, so he finally shuts up about sand.

[@AdamBrown1980]

It really seems like “the balance” is always in a state of motion. It ebbs and flows throughout history. The dark side grows, gains power and spreads into the galaxy where the light side shrinks, weakens and retreats into the galaxy. The light side regains strength, fights back and push the dark to near extinction. On and on the cycle goes!

[@rossgadsby9663]

Revan: Listen bro these dudes are losers. Just sleep with Padme and neet me at the temple training gronds at 0800

[@QuantaSolace]

It would have been fun to see what the Jedi would have became if they had listed to Revan. Revan would have been a good master for Anakin. Revan would have understood Anakin’s love for his friends and wife. I feel like Anakin would have opened up to Revan more than he did to ObI-wan. Revan would have also understood Anakin’s pull to the Dark Side. He could have also taught him how to tap into it without falling into it and achieve true balance. Qui-Gon should have been Anakin’s master if it wasn’t that pesky original trilogy.

[@FreakyT333]

His path was already chosen one time, he walked the only paths the force would allow.

[@sirboomz353]

how everything happens is the will of the Force in the end , the chosen one got where is was ,his ,will be, a new celestial. beyond time and space .At the core Anakin was good before he passed away, you can see while he was fighting Ahsoka he was enjoying himself teaching his padawan. Even i have a lightsaber, only after getting one, i realized i did not need one, how small minded i was, the force was all i ever needed. : ) May the Force be with you

[@Jwine95]

I wonder how Kreia would have altered his upbringing

[@gravestone7470]

I think the way Dave and John have made the Ashoka series brings the Chosen one saga to a perfect end , he is not a force ghost he is now a force entity he is the light the dark and the balance all at once. And hopefully all powerful anakin will wipe the last 3 Star Wars movies away

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

This analysis makes it sound like being a grey jedi is the overall best option as you can't really put all of life as flatly as one side or the other.

[@OldHenryLee]

The force did will Anakin's life as it was. .... After all, it's what was seen within that Mortis episode. ... There is no Vader without him being in the Jedi order.

[@magnusaarsland9421]

About your conclution, whoud it have helpt if he was more roug in his days of the jedai like Quaigon-Jin, and a cobin efort of him and dathamire, i dont realy now. If posibel is there som chanal viling to try myking a "what if" senario based on the conclution in the end (from the nowleg of Revan to the end) and implemend it into the star was as a video? This is a gon new perspektiv of his hiden carakter draged down by envierment/sosiety.

[@robertagu5533]

Except that Revan was born, fought, an lived doing everything he ever did literal Eons either well before or around the time of the first Skywalkers. Someone as powerful with potential an raw abilities as him... The Jedi wouldn't have wanted to let him go once he was in the actual Order itself an they realized just what he was capable of. He definitely became one of their go to guys when Diplomacy probably wasn't gonna be an opinion an a Force wrecking ball was in order an needed a quick crushing handling.

[@kbheath76]

If Qui didn't die, and training him he would had been a better Jedi in my own opinion

[@ATalesTruth-]

But the force kinda wanted him dead because it didn’t want him brainwashed as qui gon despite his wisdom would have made anakin to much of a Jedi of the order which is a bad thing

[@KrazyJohnny]

He got the teacher the force wanted

[@DeltaGammaKilo]

This basically boils down to a much older argument/discussion, which is effectively that the Jedi Order, over the thousands of years it existed, lost sight of what was important and what the true meaning and importance of the force and unity with the force really was, and instead grew to follow a perverted, bastardized version of it. Anakin, I think, subconsciously understood and felt the balance in the force, the true meaning of unity and what the force really is, and the dissonance between what the Jedi forced him to be and what a true wielder of the force is meant to be, was the ultimate test. Kind of like modern religion vs. what the original founders intended, IMHO. The Force as a whole, with all of its aspects, is a being unto itself. Yoda and many others say as much. As such, the force must be embraced and understood as a whole, and respected as an entity in and of itself, rather than seen only as a static aspect of the universe to be used as a tool, always the same, never changing. I think it's important for Ahsoka to have forsaken the Jedi path, as well, because she is coming to embrace the same thing, a true balance, where Luke Skywalker in this iteration doesn't understand it, I think, until the very end.

[@revansdisciple4636]

Although, I would like to share my thoughts. I'm just glad my lord and master is getting some recognition.

[@user-fl9te5ur2n]

Anakin was definitely mishandled by the Jedi on the hole

[@thunderstudent]

Not Darth, but Revan reborn/redeemed would have been the perfect Jedi Master for Anakin. Revan was in many ways a Proto-Anakin, and would have known what Anakin was going through as he felt it himself. Either Revan would have freed Shimi by himself or he would have encouraged Anakin to find his mother after his first vision. Revan's love for his friends and family is what kept him from falling back to the Dark Side for 300 years as he was tortured by Vitiate.

[@Lethal0809]

Fun Fact Revans death was never confirmed as he was trapped in a stasis field in the outer rim

[@zachcaraballo4812]

Anakin was definitely a person that's for sure.

[@thegamerboneless2864]

The Jedi arrogance and judgmental nature ruined anakin, he could’ve still learned the dark side being a jedi, but they never made him master. Not only that the jedi became complacent they stopped growing, hence downfall

[@Cauin450]

There are other Force user groups there, not just the Jedi or the Sith. Anakin could have learned from another teacher. One not wrapped up in the dogma that surrounds the Jedi and the Sith. My opinion is that Anakin was created by the Force because it wanted an heir. It wanted a person to embody all of its power, not a light side or a dark side, but simply the Force. What we saw of Anakin in the World Between Worlds was perfect power, perfect knowledge and perfect mastery. The craziest part of all was he was still learning. When in Ahsoka's memories, she had to tell where they were.

[@cherrytonshawty9120]

Seems like Anakin was always meant to become Darth Vader in a sense, regardless of it was in name, appearance, or than likely, neither. As the Chosen One, Anakin was likely meant to embody all aspects of the Force, both Light and Dark. Perhaps a modern Je'daii, in a way. Still, Anakin made a fine Jedi Knight, and if Qui-Gon survived his encounter with Darth Maul, I think Skywalker would have absolutely fulfilled his destiny as the Chosen One. Luke helped Vader see the error of his ways, and so he embraced the Light once more as Anakin, and he destroyed Sidious in the end, passing into the Force, his duty fulfilled afterall.

[@JetsBauer]

If jin was murdered does that mean maul was also murdered? You can't do murder in battle

[@chrisa2103]

Murder is an aggressor, meaning Jin was murdered. Maul was killed while trying to kill obi wan, which means he was killed in self defense. Shut up and learn English

[@MMZERO9]

Revan reborn is the best approach.

[@kitonazento6136]

I would likke to suggest another character to be a great, not perfect but great teacher to Anakin. Jolee Bindo from Kotor.

[@channydin]

I like the idea of Anakin having 2 masters was better for him. Both masters had a role to his balance. Obi-Wan drove Anakin towards the darkside and I believe Palpatine ultimately drove Vader to the lightside. Qui-Gon finding Anakin was the way of the force as Anakin had to follow the path of the lightside to find his journey to the darkside. Luke finding Vader was the way of the force as Vader had to experience the love of Luke to truly return to his balance form where no side is pulling or pushing anymore.

[@thescottishredneckgamer0172]

If only Revan could have lived thousands of years....

[@JUGGER-N0G]

Yes very familialllll

[@christopherparkin7162]

interesting idea. The Jedi def held Anakin back, but he was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder in a episode of cinematherapy. His life was always going to be dramatic and trauma-filled

[@benburk7765]

10,000 Jedi , 2 siths. This was the siths master plan to always keep the force unbalance giving them more power. Back in the day when there were a lot of sith the battle were more even now one sith is stronger then most jedi

[@darthpunk3510]

Quinlan Voss, and Tar Vizsla would have been good matches for him too imo.

[@user-lg9tn6bi7p]

I still think that Quigon Jinn would have been the perfect person to train Annikan

[@nexesses1548]

Maybe it was good that he experienced the flaws of the Jedi and sith. Maybe he didn’t reach his “full potential” but having experienced the problems in both might have been a good thing.

[@Harry-Murphy]

I believe grand master shatle shan would have been a good master, or at least a better grand master for him, understanding his situation with padme and children on the way, herself being a child of jedi

[@TheNotoriousCheeto]

I agree with much of this from a philosophical point of view, but remember that this is not how the Force works. George Lucas never saw balance as being between the light and the dark. Instead, when he spoke of balance, he really meant harmony. That is, by its very nature, the Dark Side was a corruption of the Force, not an entire 50% of it. He saw the natural state of the Force as being light. It is like water. The Force in balance is a placid, serene pool. The Dark Side is a rock thrown in the water to make a splash; it is foreign to the true nature of the Force. Thus, there cannot really be balance between the light and dark sides of the Force.

[@ATalesTruth-]

Well GL said it was like ying and yang aka the darkside will always exist But GL isn’t bright on this subject Ying and Yang isn’t good or evil And the light and dark are not synonymous with either To say the balance is the light destiny the dark sounds like Jedi propaganda and nonsensical Because if someone uses the darkside by definition the chosen one prophecy makes no sense if bring balance was permanent But the fact is the jeid and sith were the problem and anakin helped destroy both And in lore luke learns love to use the dark but not be 100% in it same with the light he will use the light but not be 100% I. It The key is to know both to have balance in oneself To not be blinded by ti much dark or to much light but enough to see and act accordingly This is why his new Jedi order in legends is perfect because it follows this philosophy And that even if you use the darkside you can always come back from the depths of it if you quote on quote get corrupted

[@ApocTank66]

All this just means is that Anakin was/is a better person than most of his peers and superiors.

[@user-yc9vv9xb8s]

also the stupendous wave or anyone please tell us the star wars fans which jedi could have saved anakin skywalker and make him the strongest most powerful force wielder ever of all time in history save his mother and allow him to with padme which one excluding kenobi but not the others

[@roguexvampire]

That's better from ppsw

[@user-yc9vv9xb8s]

@@roguexvampire so tell me yoda,mace windu,dooku or quigon