Why Revan was ALWAYS the Good Guy| EVEN AS A SITH

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[@benjaminashberg7841]

“The difference between a fall and a sacrifice is sometimes difficult, but I believe that Revan understood that difference”

[@StoicSurvivor99]

As kreia said, "the difference between a fall and a sacrifice is sometimes difficult, but i know Revan understood that difference more than anyone knew. The galaxy would have fallen if Revan never gone to war. Perhaps he became the dark lord of the sith out of necessity to prevent a GREATER EVIL!"

[@gabrielandjavierpinales3689]

@@StoicSurvivor99 it's true. Revan sacrifice himself to the darkside to prepare the galaxy against the True Sith who were planning to destroy both the force and galaxy.

[@StoicSurvivor99]

@@gabrielandjavierpinales3689 just as aegon the conqueror who dominated the seven kingdoms to unify the realm against the darkness of the north due to the prophecy of a song of ice and fire

[@StoicSurvivor99]

@@gabrielandjavierpinales3689 CORRECT

[@zachsmith7836]

​@@StoicSurvivor99BS. Aegon the Conqueror knew nothing, he only wanted power. If he was trying to prepare for The Others he would have prepared for them and passed down that knowledge to his blood. The North and The Nights Watch grew weak under The Targaryen's reign, who's eyes were always on The Andal Kingdoms and ignored/robbed from The North

[@StoicSurvivor99]

@@zachsmith7836 all because the targaryens due to civil war and strife and decadence of their house combined with believing the prince that was promised was said to be superstion, lead to them losing the prophecy and then was left forgotten. Yes Aegon desired POWER as all life does. But his destiny was MORE THAN THAT. He forsaw the coming darkness centuries ahead of its time as it was gathering in strength and power and he knew he would never live to unify the realm. So he passed this knowledge to his son Aenys, as he passed down to Jaehaerys, as he passed to Balon and his son Viserys. Just as viserys passed it down to Rhaenyra. Until the dance of the dragons happened. And the prophecy was forgotten. The north grew weaker and house stark stood on the brink of destruction due to the PETTY SQUABELS OF POWER of house targaryen. Lanmister, baratheon etc. and other factors among the starks.

[@articusramos808]

The best part, he only used that starforge only as needed.

[@hilestoby2628]

Honestly, if I were in this period of time in the Star Wars Universe, I would of joined with Revan.

[@aidanhogan-thomas1797]

Red flag tbh

[@AllisterVinris]

Agreed. If the republic is corrupted, weak and unwilling to do what needs to be done, it must fall to build something greater. And only a man like Revan could pull it off.

[@exile6688]

"There is no power that a Sith holds that a Jedi can not choose to wield. You must be strong enough to master the force in its entireity. You must be prepared, or the next sith you face may be your last." -Revan to Celest Morne

[@sithwarriortank8472]

Revan walked the path neither Jedi nor Sith. He was gray, standing between the darkness and the light. He was what the Jedi were supposed to be.

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

Revan is hands down the best character in Star Wars in my opinion. His entire story is so amazing! Only the best can pull off being a Sith Lord and then a Jedi Master, plus he was the hero of the Republic during the Mandalorian Wars. Such an epic character!

[@maofria1452]

Exar Kun, Darth Traya and Ulic qel-droma are more interesting characters imo

[@alterralambda]

​@@maofria1452 specially Traya, curiously Revan's former master

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

​@alterralambda Traya and the Triumvirate must have been well and truly out of the picture by now . . . Surely? . . .

[@alterralambda]

@@frenzalrhomb6919 what do you mean?

[@DK_Vandaryn]

Honestly majority of the characters from the Old Republic (Revan, Traya, Exar Kun, Qel-Droma, The Exile, Nihilus etc) are by far some of the best in Star Wars, and all deserve their flowers

[@Sinidel]

Revan's story is still one of the best in all the lore! Second only to the Skywalker saga!

[@Hello-bi1pm]

I'd say he's better. If Anakin was more like Revan fans would have loved the prequels way sooner than they did. And I think war with Mandalorians that pops up so many times in EU is from one of George's original drafts.

[@gabrielandjavierpinales3689]

Kotor 2 revealed the real reason Revan fell to the Dark Side. He never fell. He only played the part of Sith to unite the entire galaxy against the True Sith, following what Ulic Qel Droma did, using the Darkside as a weapon against those who use the darkside. The real war was against the Jedi. Revan tried to turn them into his Sith before the True Sith turned them into their Sith.

[@freedomdude5420]

The counsell was one foot already to the darkside, one even sacrifice 100 Jebi to the Lord Hunger save themselves. The fear of the darkside is a big no, no.

[@YayoHernandez-b1j]

Raven was always similar and identical to Anakin Skywalker becoming a Jedi turning. sith And finding redemption, just like Skywalker did.

[@StoicSurvivor99]

@@YayoHernandez-b1j that's an aspect of his story but it's much more to his story than that, more complicated

[@YayoHernandez-b1j]

@@StoicSurvivor99 so maybe

[@StoicSurvivor99]

@@YayoHernandez-b1j the redemption arc is to cliche. Revan became a sith due to the unprecedented power that the true sith wielded in the unknown regions. Orchestrating the mandalorian wars so the sith empire can strike a fatal blow to the republic, the jedi, and the cosmos. Revan learned this during his time on korriban, malachor and do to his relations with his mandalorian enemies like canderous which from the Mandalorians is how he truly knew about this threat. So he became the dark lord of the sith to aquire power a d to prepare the galaxy for the great War to come.

[@NightBane345]

Revan, is still the best example of what Anakin could've been, and should've become, had he not been held back by the dogma of the Jedi, and twisted by Sidious so easily, because of the dogma and treatment of the Jedi.

[@ignisinfernal1843]

Not really, that's more Luke's thing. Revan still was twisted easily by Vitiate and fell. He just fell for more selfless reasons and came back to the light without dying right away. If Anakin hadn't been killed by Sidious' lightning, he could've gone on to be even greater than he was before just like Revan.

[@NightBane345]

@@ignisinfernal1843 Revan fell to the Dark side yes, but even then he did it with goals to strengthen the galaxy against Vitiate. But those plans failed when he got betrayed and got memory wiped. But even then, his goal remained, and he regained his strength, while wanting to stop Vitiate. But even as he failed, he resisted the control of the Emperor, slowly being corrupted, yet making the Emperor act more cautiously as they influenced one another Then his dark side remained after we killed him, almost destroying the Empire and Republic. Sadly playing into the hands of Vitiate, but remaining so powerful only Vitiate could defeat him one on one Revan learned from both sides, and was by described by Darth Traya as the raw power of the force Anakin was chosen one, but he wasn't allowed to reach his full potential, and yes he had more potential than Revan. However Revan is still best example that fits for Anakin since they both experienced a galactic war, and learned while at the front lines. They had similar mentality, while Legends Luke had more calmer periods to grow into, since he was literally raised as a combatant like his father. Anakin might've experienced peace after the Clone Wars, but still under the restrictions of the old Jedi order. Not the more relaxed and open minded one that Luke created

[@StoicSurvivor99]

@@ignisinfernal1843 that'd bad writing created by the idiots back in 2011, who twisted the depth of Revans character. He chose to be a sith not forced

[@ignisinfernal1843]

@@StoicSurvivor99 That still doesn't make him somehow what Anakin should've been. Either way he was just as flawed as him.

[@StoicSurvivor99]

@@ignisinfernal1843 it’s not a flaw, he just wasn’t bound by the moral ideologies of the Jedi code. What you consider is a “flaw” is might be considered as a stregnth

[@clank0ta404]

I believe that in revan’s mind he didn’t think of himself as a sith, only using the sith title as a way to conceal his true intentions from Vitiate. However, what I believe makes him a true sith was not the title that was bestowed upon him and malak, but rather his understanding of the darkside and sith philosophy making him worthy of being a sith even if he didn’t care to be one. Whether or not Bane knew of Revan’s past as a Jedi and his redemption after being a sith, he still believed him to have been a true Sith Lord for his mastery and understanding of the darkside and sith philosophy.

[@ATalesTruth-]

I like the idea a lot but there is nothing to suggest it Only we can implied based on what revan ending up doing

[@JeremiahWiebe]

Revan is my favourite character in the Star Wars universe

[@JediRevan-g4p]

"Savior, conqueror, hero, villain. You are all things, Revan… and yet you are nothing. In the end, you belong to neither the light nor the darkness. You will forever stand alone." ―Darth Malak to Revan

[@baldrian22]

you could say that Revan is one of the most interesting and impactfull characters in all of legends. His second journy saved the republic for if visiet had not prosopund his attack on the republic by some 200 years and instead attacked within a year or even a couple of decade he would have had a easy victory. the republic military and senat was severly weakend afther several brutal conflicts over the last 30 od years and the jedi order was in an even worse shape afther 4 devestating events beeing the destruction of osseus and a large amount of younger jedi joining the dark side slightly before, then we had the mandelorien wars that weakend them even more, afther that we had the jedi civil war that was yet another devistating event and then there was the sith triumpiat that was realy close to dealing a complete deathblow to the jedi order and it was maybe a 100 or soo jedi left afther all those events. and the sith empire had 100s of thousands of soilders and probably 10s of thousands of forewilders to send into war since this was a empire with a large amount of members of the Sith species that had a abnormal hige amount of force sencitives in its ranks (if i remeber correctly it was a rarity if someone was not force sensitive within that species) so they would easly been able to crush a weakend republic and jedi order. specialy considering how well they did aigenst a republic and jedi order that had a couple of century to recover its strength when the invasion first happend.

[@Rick-w2o]

Always a good day for a Revan vid.

[@katiepersons6575]

It will never not be heartbreaking that Obsidian didn't get to do KOTOR 3 because Bioware wanted to chase the MMO money at the time that didn't last long.

[@BlazingBuddha]

Disney needs to stay away from Revan and Keanu Reeves until they fire Kathleen Kennedy and higher actual good Director/writers

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Fun fact: The same voice actor for Kyle Katarn is the same voice of Revan in Swtor. Also: Metra Surik set off the mass shadow generator, Revan arrived after the fact.

[@richietribe9487]

She activated it on Revan's orders

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@richietribe9487 not confirmed within the Kotor 1 and Kotor 2 lore. When you’re in the Korriban Tombs in Kotor 2, it’s shown that it was Metra that did it on her own. Revan and his Allie’s were delayed by a Mandalorian ambush. It was The Exile’s sin to bear, for Revan wasn’t even there.

[@richietribe9487]

@@AncestorEmpire1 Revan had manipulated the situation. Placing his allies there specifically for that very purpose. Because those specific jedi and troopers wouldn't join his sith empire. So he let either the mandalorians destroy them for him, or have Meetra destroy all of them with the mass shadow generator. Meetra might have given the order, I stand corrected, but Revan made the situation

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@richietribe9487 Revan’s Academy came later, if that’s what you’re referring to. The soldiers on Malachor V were from Metra’s command, she was just as notorious as Revan and was just as admired by her troopers as Revan and his soldiers. Though canon Metra was more ruthless when the mission was important.

[@richietribe9487]

@@AncestorEmpire1 No actually. Revan had started his turn way before. Revan chose Malachor V to be the final battle for a reason. He had set up base there before, since the mandalorians didn't dare set foot there. Revan was taught by the Trayus academy there and used it's teachings to influence both his soldiers and fellow jedi. The final battle took place there, because Revan's base

[@hulksmash849]

Someone get Keanu to play this already! He is perfect for the role.

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

Man we've been begging for him to play Revan for yeeears. Some young guy was trying to argue by saying Keanu can't be Revan because Revan is supposed to be charismatic, so I posted a long list of Keanu movies that proved how charismatic he is. Obviously this guy was under 21 and only knew Keanu as John Wick😂

[@EAcapuccino]

Assuming Disney doesn't sc*ew it up 😅

[@hulksmash849]

@@EAcapuccino my thoughts exactly.

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

Nah Keanu reeves is way too old revan was in his early 30s in KOTOR 1

[@hulksmash849]

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 dude at 50 he's still moving like a stud in John Wick. I hope I'm able to some of the stuff he's doing when I'm 50.

[@khanmandalor7227]

Revans character and doing a show with him is the first step in healing Star Wars fans.

[@Youtubesucks565]

Raven is my favorite character in Star Wars! He risked everything for the greater good! He gave his wife a kiss goodbye and said be safe and I’ll make sure you are! His child he never met was able to in freedom while he was in mind lockdown with a sith! He is our military , the very people that risk their lives and for some who cost their life so we can be free! That’s how I view him and every time I see a video on him it brings me to our Veterans and Military Service members risking there lives for us and our country! God bless to all those who served ! I appreciate your sacrifice and will always support you!

[@Gor85]

Revan played chess with galaxy,Republic and everyone. Like true maestro! Unbeatable. I play as Revan,just begun searching for Star Maps. I think Revan wanted to protected the Republic and galaxy. And it's peoples. He targeted specific targets. Republic could rebulid itself. May the Force be with you too😊

[@tickledpickle5671]

In my opinion, Malak's "greatest strength" was his reliance on the Star Forge. Sure, it made him very powerful, I look at it differently. Revan saw influence as a weapon. (Likely because of Kreia's teachings) He was more or less picking thorns out of the lion's paws. Malak went the path of wanton destruction, churning out weapons, ships, machines of war. And I personally don't believe that using the Star Forge this way brought him more power. In fact, I believe it weakened him. He felt he was above fighting his own war. He felt that destroying planets, ships, etc. proved he was stronger than Revan. But the truth, is that the Jedi Civil War had nothing to do with droids, ships, etc. It was about the Jedi, and Sith. (To the common folk, both were 'Jedi' hence the war's name.) It's difficult for me to really explain in the moment. I just keep getting that feeling when Malak shows up as a topic.

[@Dj18thstr]

Also revan : proceeds to create a character with a black hole perk

[@Haseo55]

Because he's Revan thats why.

[@mr.boomguy]

You've talked about the attack on the anchient Jedi library a few time I think and your latest mentio here got ne thinking, given that Revan was 50 years after the event, the clone wars era Jedi have rediscovered some of the knowledge themselfs, while never setting foot in the ruin

[@thomasparque7834]

I think Revan was ultimately the good guy just misguild in his youth and his lack of reastiant. It was the Will of the Force the Jedi fight in the Mando Wars but the council though did have some vaild points though largely wrong they may as well gift wrapped Revan and Malak to the Sith Empire then servied them to him on drinks tray. If the Jedi Council had let Revan lead the Order into war but with some reasonable restriction everything would have been a lot better for the galaxy

[@carlosgarza400]

The path to hell is paved with good intentions

[@blackbilly1965]

@stupendous My newest kitty is named Revan Orange cats are a duality species

[@AllisterVinris]

I have always said that Revan was just the best character in the whole star wars universe, simply because he ventured past the narrow visions of both usual sides limiting them. He was jedi, he became sith, then he became both of those things at the same time and more, embracing the true potential of the force. All of this only reinforces my opinion, I think. Good video, also.

[@jarvisjackson5455]

Keanu Reeves should play Revan

[@mUtH4Fr3AkEr]

Is it just me or according to the illustrations shown, Keanu is revan

[@mikemckague9506]

Ah yes my most favorite characters in Star Wars!!!

[@aaronvalverde8212]

Brilliant

[@eddylifts3675]

We need a revan movie series or show

[@ATalesTruth-]

Made by Disney not a chance

[@thexirvrj2442]

I could see Keanu Reeves or Jared Leto playing Revan in live action.

[@EAcapuccino]

03:42 - That wasn't Rekjavik, was it? Those 2 icy worlds sound awfully similar! 😅

[@BrianMarrino236]

I hope SW KOTOR Remake will still be alive for release and I hope it can explain more about the Mandalorian Wars as much as Revan vs Mandalore the Ultimate as well

[@harrisoncolby7889]

we need a triology of this man. 1:55 @ George Lucas do your thing

[@corydorton2660]

I agree Revan always had a purple lightsaber he cared about the Republic he kind like Jason solo and Doom his method were horrible but his intentions were pure

[@robertagu5533]

Revan seems to me to be HIS Eras Vader BUT ALSO had Vader achieved his FULL POTENTIAL AN POWER as either Vader OR Anakin. Since these 2 (technically 4) alter egos developed basically the same, with same backgrounds an basically same goals just in their own Times.. Since at least I think in EU Reven finally split into basically a good physical twin in Jedi Revan an Evil one in Darth Revan an LITERALLY went in opposite directions doing they own things save for one or 2 incidents they fully agreed an fought about as one on... Cuz Star Wars can be weird like that...

[@piratavorak]

I really wish one day we get a kotor 3, not the mmo, but as was promised in the kotor 2, the true sith, dark siders that could be equal to Nilus or Sion in wickeness, an empire where sith alchemy is their main weapons and unnatural powers makes their army

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

Its things like this that prove that the Darkside itself is not evil... not on it's own, but rather its the person who uses it that is evil, or has the potential to be. Never are we shown the darkside being evil... always are we shown *people* who happen to use it being evil, or corrupting others so they will be evil... never just the darkside itself. For example, the darside never 'corrupted' X-sar Kun, he was always a power hungry monster, he just hid it really well. The darkside didn't corrupt Revan and Malek, it was Vitiate who corrupted them, but the fact Revan still wanted to save the republic separates him and Malek showing one as more susceptible to the manipulation than the other. The darkside never corrupted Anakin, Sidious corrupted him... all these times the darkside never does *anything* it doesn't corrupt or twist, if anything it discourages extensive usage by ruining your body... its *people* who use it that then corrupt others *with it.*

[@joeschook792]

I personally despise the way the Revan novel (and the MMO) changed his sacrificial "fall" to the darkside a bastardized "mind-control" cop out

[@Vidis88]

Can say exactly why but I love Revan, if a movie would take place sometime, Keanu would do him good I think.

[@InfiniteNaos]

Revan as a Sith seems to have the ideology of Count Dooku with the usage of the Sith Order itself like Darth Krayt. Just as Bane’s spirit said to Krayt “You pretender have already lost! Sith fight for glory, not for order!” The ideology of tearing down the Republic to build it up some newer and stronger, similar to Dooku’s plans. Using the Sith Order to be a military power of protection rather than glory seeking killers similar to Krayt.

[@Hello-bi1pm]

Okay, that would be ironic because Bane respects Revan

[@MRGaines12YT]

The stupendous wave can you talk about the evolution of Nala Se from the attack of the clones from being emotionless and lacking humanity and by the end of the bad batch she gained some humanity and emotions please talk about this no one as talk about the Nala Se growth and it should be talked about I know you like Star Wars legends but please talk about this moment in canon that is very important

[@BaoNguyen-bh2rk]

10:28 Is that Darth Keanu?

[@rainbowace697]

If I was in the star wars universe I'd probably try learning how to use both sides of the force. Like cal but like also not be a strict jedi or sith. I'd try to be a outlier a nomad only trying to survive and be truly one with the living force. Like the bendu. I'd probably fail but hey a guy can try.

[@darth.dominus.the.savage]

That's a disaster waiting to happen, for scenarios sake, you try to find a balance between light and dark by using both, if you fail in that, it's very likely that you'll either go insane like darth gravid or better yet fall to the dark side completely and having done that, you either fully embrace it or be destroyed by it due to the weakness of having failed to combine both light and dark in your earlier attempt

[@lostanimeboy]

Why Revan is so Keanu Reeves

[@InternetArchive1]

Im sure the countless number of civilians slaughtered would love to agree with you

[@samuelrobles3737]

Day 586 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon

[@noahhornback8786]

Revan is the very definition of the path to hell is paved with good intentions. It's one of the main reasons he's such a good character. Everything he did you can understand why he did it. Take the jedi Civil War for example. He killed millions made deal with corrupt corporations who in turn killed millions all to get the funds and resources needed to kill a 1000 year old mad man who wants to kill all life in the know universe. I don't know about you I'll take the guy who is kinda evil over the crazy guy who is so evil even the sith thinks he's to evil.

[@chadmmm5144]

Do one on how sith get their names.. I feel like most sith get told their name (vadar certainly did) But did revan really just call himself .. Kinda like I’m Jedi master chad… Oh now I’m Sith Lord chad but wait Now I’m back to Jedi chad and so on and so on How do they get their names and titles? Who calls that!?

[@galacticfirefly6060]

Revan led the Revanchist movement against the Mandalorians, he vowed to push back the Mandalorians. And in doing so he took the simple name of 'Revan'. For that meaning we must know the meaning of Revanchist, which is: 'one who advocates or fights for the recovery of lost territory or status' or 'Retaliation to reclaim lost Territorries/Land/Worlds'. Which is what Revan did. The Mandalorians conquered many worlds and Revan joined the fight and pushed back the mandalorians reclaiming lost territorry.

[@chadmmm5144]

Okay so who was Revans sith master?

[@12bigredd]

he knew what the force wanted of him.... he just tried to do it better.... human failing.

[@patryk2632]

Read the book....

[@Sisu2481]

Can you make a video of the biggest fight in star wars......talzin vs Sidious....and tell why Sidious have his magic...from talzin.....but he stole maul to talzin to make his apprentice...... It's the real story. ...never see in movies or series Maul and talzin vs Sidious grevious and Tyranid Best fight ever comic book must make series of this Plsss

[@warrick7689]

Ill take a keanu reeves revan movie please sir

[@dur22pay]

Movie trilogy please

[@robertstrong6798]

Darth Vader was always the good guy too ❤️ those younglings deserved it ! Lmao 🤣

[@ATalesTruth-]

Different crimes

[@mikemckague9506]

In the end Revan did die a Jedi not sith

[@BartEmbregts]

I'm curious what others think. Should they make a kotor movie or a Kotor series so they can cover every planet in detail (side quests)?

[@Hello-bi1pm]

Tactician who wants to protect the galaxy from threats archetype was first done with Thrawn

[@ladiesman181002]

It’s pronounced Natheama!!!!

[@ryanhernandez5632]

I wouldn't say good maybe lawful neutral at worst. Besides one can be aligned with the darkside and be a non factor in the galaxy though most get consumed by it

[@MTGSINGOFF]

Wait so if the star forge could devour the force, then could it destroy abeloth?

[@kingshadow8782]

Hey!

[@deimos7577]

Revan was only successful because of HK47 and his ability to dispose of meatbags.

[@ATalesTruth-]

He made hk47

[@deimos7577]

​@ATalesTruth- True, but revan abandoned HK47 and without him he was captured.

[@ATalesTruth-]

@@deimos7577 not what happened revan assumed he was still doing his mission he didn’t know he lost his memory or was damaged

[@kyceoreaboe1842]

On one hand I wish Disney would stop doing extra unnecessary stuff and make content about Revan and the Old Republic....but on the other they'd screw it up so nvm🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@teuton215]

Is this similar to darth sideous ? Tear down the republic to build something stronger for an incoming threat. For sideous it was the vong

[@ATalesTruth-]

Yes

[@grimlord3181]

Kind of. Sidious' intentions weren't as noble.

[@teuton215]

@grimlord3181 yes I agree bit yet other than revan name one "noble" sith

[@Ganja650]

🔴

[@Hello-bi1pm]

If Disney did Revan they would nerf his motivations to just be "bad guy for good guys" like they did with Thrawn's deep lore.

[@SHARKVADERS]

NNNNNNOOOOOOO

[@SHARKVADERS]

L I A R

[@ATalesTruth-]

No

[@kingshadow8782]

D

[@derneuedunkleavataryang1731]

Kotor is not a Star Wars Game but an RPG where powers are given to you like candy so it's not right to say revan was still a Hero.

[@ATalesTruth-]

That’s the wrong way to think Given in Kotor canonicly revan uses darkside abilities yet still chooses to destroy the sith and redeem bastila(where the Jedi would kill her for turning to the darkside) Kotor makes you question how the force works Revan doesn’t go full on darkside nor full on light

[@derneuedunkleavataryang1731]

@@ATalesTruth- Thats the reason why he is weak. He don't use eighter the light or the dark side to it fullest and thats the reason why he is the way he is. He married Bastila but left her for the Sith Empire in the Uknown Regions, one is selfish and the other one selfless. Revan represents nothing more or less than the duality of us humans. It's just me or do the Sith just exspand the galaxy because they (when they rule an empire expand into the unknown and discover it), so we should thank the sith for discover more and more of the galaxy (atleast in the time of Kotor and Swtor).

[@derneuedunkleavataryang1731]

@@ATalesTruth- Revan and especally Meetra Surik (the Jedi Exil) respresent people in history who were important but not much remember them. We don't know how many disasters were prefented in the past by "unknown" people. The protaganist of Kotor 2 is clearly Revan surely you ask why because he is the one who is the hero of the mandalorian war and (if you believe it or not) meetra has to clean the sith mess revan left behind, the Sith Tryumvirate especcally Traya (Arron Kei/Kreia).

[@derneuedunkleavataryang1731]

@@ATalesTruth- You remind me of the Revanites of SWTOR they worship revan (like the sith emperor) believe him the only one who is like a god. In fact after he is freed from malestrom prison (republic flashpoint) he gets his mask from them (if you play imperial side you can require it when you infiltrate this group), after you beat him on the foundury (imperial flashpoint) he died but his darkside persona refused to die and he used the revanites to crush the command of republic and imperial forces (Darth Marr and Satele Shan), he even said to you that he don't acnolodged the revanites just when his darkside persona (Darth Revan) was in charge. In short you have to stop him to revive the emperor and keep balance (this is the reason why SWTOR don't have a clear protagonist like Kotor 1 & 2), you are not the protagonist of the story. This Tipe of Storytelling began in Kotor 2 with him (Keira always talkes about how powerful revan was because he was her student) And i find this a better story knowing you are not alone in the galaxy but there are others (the other classes of the game) they are also prevent other disasters from happening, some say kotor is the only one that matters i dissagree so lets discuss our points.

[@kamerondonaldson5976]

from my point of view he was always evil even as a jedi...

[@ATalesTruth-]

Then you are lost

[@baneleaf7025]

They have got to make a Revan movie to get Star Wars back on track. Get Keanu wrapped up and do this shit.

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

Nah Disney will butcher revan y'all Disney star wars fans need to stop it

[@rondobrondo]

I wish I hadn't seen this video. The way they retconned Revan and turned him into some lackey of vitiate is so lame and cringe.

[@jeffreyherndon5259]

We need a movie or movie series about Revan and NOT by Disney and we DON’T need a WOKE director!!

[@Poppyshop]

How gratefull we should be that disney hasn't dared touching him so far!

[@sammurillo75]

When they do, trust me somehow, he will be someone very different with pronouns

[@Hello-bi1pm]

If Disney did Revan they would nerf his motivations to just be "bad guy for good guys" like they did with Thrawn's deep lore.

[@aidanhogan-thomas1797]

God, is all you do complain about Disney? Nobody likes Disney star wars but holy shit, shut the fuck up about it.

[@ignisinfernal1843]

@@Hello-bi1pm Thrawn's motivations in canon are literally the same as in legends, just with the Grysk replacing the Vong.

[@Hello-bi1pm]

@@ignisinfernal1843 where is that motivation in the shows? I am aware Zahn did damage control, I'm talking about Revan in the shows/movies where casuals would see him

[@shadowemblem.]

Revan played 4d chess the entire time.

[@darthandeddeu]

This is the interpretation and tone any live action should take. If Pablo is the keeper of a Jedi holocron , SW has one that's by an Ashoka like being's holocron.

[@wafagdplqs4421]

Corrupted and misguided beliefs are what lead him down a dark path. I think he always had "good" intentions, however his actions are still questionable both as a jedi and as a sith.

[@marshalllatta2073]

I love Darth revan he is a true hero

[@robertmartinez2752]

Now you understand. Isn’t the beauty of their character so awesome! The sacrifice, the journey, the future. He changed it all!

[@RafaelDias-jq5ky]

I’m devouring the Thrawn trilogy right now and dont want spoilers from Revan’s story so I’ll just force smash the like button and come back after I finish his book

[@darthsidius9631]

Does... Does Darth revan kinda look like Keanu reeves?

[@sithwarriortank8472]

Of course Revan 'fell' to save the Republic. Kreia said as much and pointed out he went WAY out of the way to capture instead of destroy infrastructure. He was sent by Vitiate to destroy and destabilize the Republic, but I always believed he intended to betray and destroy the Emperor, and those who served him.

[@TylerHellums]

You know, if Vitiate just killed Reven, he would have won... Just a thought.

[@TheFukkles]

One thing I don't get about this lore, is why didn't Vitiate reveal his empire and crush what remained of the Republic at the end of the Jedi Civil War? Barely 100 jedi knights remained, and by the time of KOTOR 2 GOTO claimed that the Republic was on trajectory to collapse within months of the game's events. Darth Vitiate had accomplished all of his goals by setting up the events of the Mandalorian wars, but then was just like "never mind, we're gonna chill for a few more centuries". This is why I strongly dislike the MMO's story telling- KOTOR 1 and 2 set up conflicts that were much more subversive and nuanced in its story telling. I think there was originally more going on behind the scenes than the threat of the "true Sith" empire. I always felt like their goals were less about defeating the Republic or the Jedi, but rather about empowering the dark side of the force through conflict and creating wounds in the force. Perhaps it could have been a larger plot to attempt to corrupt the force itself to irrevocably keep the dark side dominant. But The Old Republic was just another Darth Sideous re-hash and absolutely ruined KOTOR's legacy and plot threads, and in the end it was just about power again.

[@BlairsVaultOfStarsAndDreams]

There's been speculation that Revan even knew about the potential threat of the Vong looming outside the known universe, and that potential threat also influenced his decision to turn to the Dark Side in order to protect the Republic.

[@Shadow-r7e]

He believed in the better good for the Sith and Jedi in regards to peace and order which is why he could never lose or been seen as evil.

[@ghostface4404]

And I've come to see it coming full circle with Sabine recreating the Mandalorians to succeed where Revan failed.

[@danelamoreaux4166]

Revan is,by far,the best written character in SW. He is my favorite in SW.

[@Matt-nj1yh]

Between Revan and Exar Kun... I seriously don't understand why other stories are being turned into movies... these movies would be more EPIC and LEGENDARY than the originals!

[@robertrouse8945]

Thank you for a great story 😊keep up the great work 👍🏾

[@jockpackage1770]

Sith assassins are just worthless meat bags. HK-47, especially with his former full programing, was far superior. However, he could have spent decades slaughtering the politicians of Corucant and hardly make a dent. It's not as if he charged into the senate building with a crabon explosive, he was very discreet. To periphrases one of the best droid's best monologues. I adore how that monologue was hypothetical for most of it, until it wasn't.

[@ronjon7942]

I’m still not sure about seeing Keannu Reeves’ face as Revan’s. I like the guy, and sure, if Reeves agreed to do a Revan film, it’d be cool. But until then… I mean, who do Revan fans see when Reeves’ face is used? Neo? John Wick? Johnny Utah? Ted Logan?

[@grabitt]

Revan and his story was the "chosen one" so much more then Anakin ever was. Fortunately having seen Revan die and return it gives me hope that perhaps we will see this truer chosen one again and perhaps that Anakin was in fact, while remarkable, a false chosen one.

[@shivasamadhi]

Revan is the epitome of “necessary evil”. None of the other Jedi were ever going to be willing to go far enough in the force to take down the Sith Emperor.