Tank Chats #99 | StuG III | The Tank Museum

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The Tank Museum

The Tank Museum

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@SuperShanook
@SuperShanook 3 жыл бұрын
It's ridiculous how sir Willey manages to continue his talk for such an extended period of time without cuts in editing (as far as I've noticed). Excellent presentation!
@johnny_pilot
@johnny_pilot 3 жыл бұрын
Pity it wasn't edited though... referring to the StuG III as a tank many times among other inaccuracies. Most people these days don't care about standards though.
@TheZINGularity
@TheZINGularity 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnny_pilot most people don't care about YOUR standards*
@Rokaize
@Rokaize 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnny_pilot He’s using that term because that’s the colloquial term for it. He goes over, in detail, that the stugs were formed as part of the artillery corps. You are a poor listener.
@TheBob3759
@TheBob3759 2 жыл бұрын
He knows his business.
@Not-a-bot222
@Not-a-bot222 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously Johnny P is more intelligent on the subject and could do his videos better.
@darkawakening01
@darkawakening01 4 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather was a StuG III driver and mechanic at Army Group South. He still talks tenderly about his trusty StuG "Langrohr" (long barreled Ausf. G). He liked to point out the comfortable interior, the vehicle´s reliability, good armor protection as well as armament and particularly the highly superior optics when compared to captured T-34s. He was a member of Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung (later Brigade) 228.
@leriku2270
@leriku2270 Жыл бұрын
Thats sick, and yeah the t-34s had polished metal (steel i think) as optics
@taylorc2542
@taylorc2542 Жыл бұрын
Document those stories.
@wanderingnomad1
@wanderingnomad1 Жыл бұрын
@@leriku2270t34 was a terrible tank
@darkawakening01
@darkawakening01 Жыл бұрын
@@ClevorBelmont What do you mean?
@kevinbiggs9606
@kevinbiggs9606 Жыл бұрын
@@leriku2270 sick that his grandad was in the Wehrmacht?
@PatGilliland
@PatGilliland 4 жыл бұрын
The Tank Museum - providing essential morale services worldwide during times of crises.
@coolminecraft1457
@coolminecraft1457 4 жыл бұрын
Pat G and models don’t forget the models
4 жыл бұрын
@wakenbaker-uk A needlessly hostile comment, W. I've visited six or seven times over the years. Will definitely go again. The Museum is closed because of the coronavirus. KZbin provides easier access.
4 жыл бұрын
@wakenbaker-uk What's your problem? I'm a frequent visitor to Paignton Zoo, the Tank Museum, the Fleet Air Arm Museum, Longleat, the museums at the Portsmouth Naval Dockyard and several other locations. I'm expressing goodwill to people who make videos so that I can view museums on KZbin AS WELL. Well Done to the guys and gals behind Tank Chats. Keep up the good work, Tank Chats, thankyou for your interesting talks, and the same goes for their equivalent colleagues at other museums. I live 20 miles from the Museum. KZbin provides easier access. This way I can visit the Museum ten times a week plus in person on family days out.
@SuperMookles
@SuperMookles 4 жыл бұрын
@wakenbaker-uk You're coming across as being a grade-A imbecile. Please stop now before you embarrass yourself any further.
@toruko-ishibravo2zulu679
@toruko-ishibravo2zulu679 4 жыл бұрын
I found a Canadian military museum for their Engineers had a tank in it. It had a story too interesting to share in KZbin and that exhibit has since been moved closer to their Capital City. I still use a CDF mountain warfare training area for vertical training and my speleology.
@dr.strangelove6118
@dr.strangelove6118 4 жыл бұрын
being a better history channel then the actual history channel
@DraftySatyr
@DraftySatyr 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, that doesn't take very much nowadays
@steventessitore3246
@steventessitore3246 4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned for this evenings special on how the Ancient Egyptians got the plans for the Stug from alien explorers.
@kw19193
@kw19193 4 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute mate - are you actually trying to suggest that the History Channel has something to do with history . . ? Cheers!
@eddiemoreland5604
@eddiemoreland5604 3 жыл бұрын
The PC is so off the scale history can’t be history. They skipped Chancellorsville and it was The Greatest Victory by Any AMERICAN General in History. 60,000. Defeated 132,000. Robert E. Lee was and is The Best American General in American History. It’s just not PC for “that” to be the case. That’s not History! That’s B.S.! Rommel was a great General but, they have to make it look like Montgomery “out smarted” him. I don’t want propaganda I want true accurate HISTORY!
@TheSeanoops
@TheSeanoops 3 жыл бұрын
“History Channel”
@bbcmotd
@bbcmotd 4 жыл бұрын
I hope we will see updated tank chats on Tiger, Panther, Tiger II, Ferdinand etc. Those old ones 5 minute long just aren't enough. I totally love these 20-30 minute ones though, especially the extensive tank chat on T-34.
@Sofus.
@Sofus. 4 жыл бұрын
WOW I didn't even realize the video was that long
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 4 жыл бұрын
There's only so much you can say about some tanks. They're all basically big metal boxes with tracks and guns.
@reganmahoney8264
@reganmahoney8264 4 жыл бұрын
With an empty museum it’s a lot easier for them to do these longer videos...
@scoutdogfsr
@scoutdogfsr 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree that the increased duration videos are more entertaining and informative regardless of model or country of origin.
@mjr234nyu
@mjr234nyu 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Just purchased one of the museum tee shirts to support the effort.
@giants2k8
@giants2k8 2 жыл бұрын
The aesthetics of German armor are quite exquisite. From the Stugs and Panzer IVs to the Panther and Tigers.
@cineffect
@cineffect Жыл бұрын
Very menacing.
@RetroRift.
@RetroRift. Жыл бұрын
Extremely mesmerizing
@jimnewton4064
@jimnewton4064 2 жыл бұрын
What also is unmentioned in the article is that as the StuG was a tank under the artillery branch received "artillery" optics, and were much higher quality to the regular army tanks thus allowing kills at much further ranges. This allowed the 75L24 to be used to such deadlier results. Hitler may have blundered much of World War 2, but his call for a longer 75 gun was spot on.
@herptek
@herptek Жыл бұрын
Soviet armor was proving too thick for ordinary early war German tank types to deal with. What was called for is just economical way to have as many platforms toting a 75 on the field as possible.
@papaaaaaaa2625
@papaaaaaaa2625 4 жыл бұрын
That's funny. My Son is sitting downstairs and build his new Cobi STUG III...what an coincidence. Best wishes to all of you, stay healthy!
@israelgibson240
@israelgibson240 4 жыл бұрын
I pulled this up and have it looped it while I'm building my new Afrika Korps Cobi StuG III for my classroom lol
@isdrevenge8764
@isdrevenge8764 3 жыл бұрын
May I recommend the Bismarck. But pricey but worth it. COBI are a very good company with amazing models considering they're made of Lego
@riptidegaming8876
@riptidegaming8876 2 жыл бұрын
im doing a tamiya 1/35 stug 3 g at the moment and im doing a battle of the bulge one
@jeroenvandenberg5750
@jeroenvandenberg5750 9 ай бұрын
Start early
@EleanorPeterson
@EleanorPeterson 4 жыл бұрын
As well as the refreshingly unbiased content and lack of partisan flag-waving where anything military is concerned, I really like David's presentation style. Excellent clarity.
@isdrevenge8764
@isdrevenge8764 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Just facts Pure 100% facts
@jidk6565
@jidk6565 2 жыл бұрын
No wehraboos in sight
@bclmax
@bclmax 4 жыл бұрын
history channel should be showing this stuff..oh wait i cancelled cable years ago because i got tired of pawn stars
@Cowmanik
@Cowmanik 4 жыл бұрын
"Best I can do is vaguely reference World War 2..." -Rick Harrison
@strangeboy904
@strangeboy904 3 жыл бұрын
What does pawning have to do with history anyway?
@warlerker
@warlerker 3 жыл бұрын
DOES HITLER USE BLACK MAGIC TO DESTROY DEMOCRACY. - History channel.
@overlord4453
@overlord4453 3 жыл бұрын
same... i mean.. what the heck is pawn stars
@warlerker
@warlerker 3 жыл бұрын
@@overlord4453 They sell things at Exceptional prices.
@MRKapcer13
@MRKapcer13 4 жыл бұрын
The real workhorse of the German Army right here. This is the armoured vehicle that allies on both fronts would have to face the most through the war.
@yxada1998
@yxada1998 3 жыл бұрын
The Soviets actually had a book detailing how to deal with these. It's clear they considered it very dangerous.
@daffyduck7336
@daffyduck7336 3 жыл бұрын
I spent some time crawling a round the stug III at the Littlefield collection (4days in all) and was very impressed by the layout of this vehicle and the production probabilities (cheap) of it , and how did the allies missed out on it. The only that would come close was the M50&50A1 Ontos which was well after WW2. I met some WW2 tankers when stationed in Bose Idaho ,they showed up at my "tank barn" ,4th tank Bn "C" Co. they talked about how much they hated Stugs and Hustsels (spelling?) because the Germans could hide under or behind anything so easily! If you can't see it you can't hit it!
@ffmdotcom
@ffmdotcom 3 жыл бұрын
@@daffyduck7336 I think you are referring to the 'Hetzer' (pronounced something like 'hat sir' for English speakers) which translates to baiter
@kevinstewart449
@kevinstewart449 3 жыл бұрын
@@yxada1998 Rule 1 I guess was find it.
@yxada1998
@yxada1998 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinstewart449 Certainly in the later years when they were so effective in ambush. I want to say Military History Visualized has a video with the book. It details the German assault tactics when using them and how the Soviets countered.
@ingowalkerling5141
@ingowalkerling5141 4 жыл бұрын
Very well made information. In the early '70 I was an apprentice as an technical drawer in the MIAG factory in Brunswik. And we had to pass some practices in the manfacturing, and there although in "Halle 17", where these StuG were build in the 40ies. Later the Jagdpanther was manufactured on the same place. Back in the technical office I was glad to get access to the original drawings of the StuG and the Jagdpanther. Some of the former engineers were still there...
@himaro101
@himaro101 4 жыл бұрын
It's basically the Hurricane to the Spitfire. Sure, the spitfire was flashy and a brilliant plane, but the hurricane was the workhorse
@roybennett6330
@roybennett6330 4 жыл бұрын
Quite rightly so more bang for your mark$$
@wernesgruder1
@wernesgruder1 4 жыл бұрын
More Hurricanes than Spitfires in the Battle of Britain
@leeham6230
@leeham6230 3 жыл бұрын
@@wernesgruder1 Yup. It's scary to think that the poor British pilots had to fight FW-190 and BF-109 planes with their hurricanes.
@left_ventricle
@left_ventricle 3 жыл бұрын
@@leeham6230 Early Spitfire and Hurricane is not that much far apart from each other in terms of performance. The gap is surprisingly un-huge though there is a certain gap. Add the fact that 190 did not particularly show up till about early 42, Hurricane is not a poor performer. Admittedely Spitfire was generally slightly superior to 109 while Hurricane was generally inferior. Hurricane is outdated design even for 1941 while Spitfire still had a lot of room for development. Obviously a superior performing plane but Hurricane has better aircraft systems and much easier repairs and more.
@MrRugbylane
@MrRugbylane 3 жыл бұрын
@@left_ventricle and in 1940 and later the Hurricane was a better gun platform. They never tried to put twin 40mm guns on a Spit !
@theweppe27official
@theweppe27official 4 жыл бұрын
The Finnish army 29 StuGs destroyed at least 87 soviet tanks for a loss of only 8 StuGs. Many of them during the summer of 1944. These StuGs gained the nickname "Sturmi".
@Caratacus1
@Caratacus1 4 жыл бұрын
... and then Finland surrendered for the second time.
@FinnishDragon
@FinnishDragon 4 жыл бұрын
Finland didn´t surrender because Soviet Union didn´t occupy Finland. Nations like Romania and Hungary surrendered to Soviet Union since they were occupied by the Red Army.
@juhokuusisto9339
@juhokuusisto9339 4 жыл бұрын
@@FinnishDragon The only occupation troops were in hotel Torni. 155 Soviet and 15 British members were in the Allied Monitoring Commission. They didn't get along at all with each other.
@haroldfiedler6549
@haroldfiedler6549 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that several destroyed Stugs were destroyed by their crews for various reasons.
@roybennett6330
@roybennett6330 4 жыл бұрын
Saw a movie where finish soldiers were using stugs ,sort of a Finnish band of brothers,good see how other countries thought of ww2
@yolanda231000
@yolanda231000 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos. Thanks David for taking the time during these trouble times to produce this wonderful video.
@anthonyseta4566
@anthonyseta4566 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! I'm obviously three years too late in just discovering this gem of a video, but I'm overjoyed at finding this site and overwhelmed by the quality of this presentation. I'm looking forward to watching many other videos from the Tank Museum. Thank you!
@mpersad
@mpersad 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, David. The videos that you and the team are putting out are a real tonic in difficult times. The "Ask the Curator" from your study or garden are particularly welcome. Stay well, and best wishes to all at Bovington.
@garyroberts1552
@garyroberts1552 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Wittmann began his run as a premier master of tank warfare (after serving for a time in armored cars) as commander of a Stug.III..Many of his tactics and methods carried over to his Tiger I commands, his close coordination between himself, driver, and gunner making for fast target aquisition and nimble maneuvers..all learned in his Stug III days.
@yoda5565
@yoda5565 4 жыл бұрын
Very astute observation about the uniform difference of Assault Gun and Panzer crews. The Stug' is close to my heart as my Great Uncle fought in one during WWII. Good video.
@martinwedel3588
@martinwedel3588 3 жыл бұрын
this man , need to make audio books - his voice is so calm .
@baz6128
@baz6128 4 жыл бұрын
Of all the fighting vehicles of WWII the Stug was always my favourite. Great video.
@yagdtigercommander
@yagdtigercommander 4 жыл бұрын
what not to love about it. Its like the gangsta of tank destroyers. I am every panzer be gangsta until the stug shows up unless elephants and big cats show up. Then Stug is like am I joke to you ? lol.
@andrewpease3688
@andrewpease3688 4 жыл бұрын
Please keep this up David. Despite having plenty to get on with motivation and morale has taken a bit of a dive and I'm sure its not just me that greatly appreciates your efforts.
@andrewpease3688
@andrewpease3688 3 жыл бұрын
@@delayedpilot yes I'm OK thanks I was a bit down at the hight of the (a bit over the top, lockdown, with hindsight) lockdown and l was imagineing what people who are naturally depressive must be like. I think that the tank museum and quite a few other you tube channels were aware of this and stepped up their game.
@williedesmond8201
@williedesmond8201 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewpease3688 the tank museum's had to change things up as well because of the pandemic but I hear you its great content ,as you said about people with depression I suffer with it and things like this ordering ww2 books are a help doe ,there seems to be no end in site to this covid crap,hope you feel better than you where when you made the comment ,there some good content with people in the comments compared to other sites like boxing or mma sites a lot of clowns on there very negative so I don't bother getting involved I just watch the content because you make a comment and your called a casual or you know nothing. Smh .
@alexandersarchives9615
@alexandersarchives9615 4 жыл бұрын
The moment the tank museum starts selling Stug life t-shirts is the moment I buy their entire stock
@alexandersarchives9615
@alexandersarchives9615 3 жыл бұрын
@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle Ontario Regiment Museum, prepare to be back-ordered!
@benferrari4147
@benferrari4147 2 жыл бұрын
this man has a gift when it comes to talking about these things. i've met him once in 2017 when i was in bovi doing my challenger 2 drivers course.
@avidficreader5040
@avidficreader5040 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't choose the StuG life...
@thingsido5571
@thingsido5571 4 жыл бұрын
The stug life chose me
@HerrGausF
@HerrGausF 4 жыл бұрын
....I was drafted by the Wehrmacht.
@evan8654
@evan8654 4 жыл бұрын
@@HerrGausF L0L
@adamcarreras-neal4697
@adamcarreras-neal4697 4 жыл бұрын
Stu G is a very good guitarist, check out Delirious
@Cliperclaper
@Cliperclaper 4 жыл бұрын
Living in a StuGsta’s paradise
@bunyip7343
@bunyip7343 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I recently found these Tank Chats. A great way to pass some time during the Covid19 pandemic. I look forward to a time in the near future to visit the museum in person. Thankyou David and team from not so sunny Sweden!
@kondensat1285
@kondensat1285 4 жыл бұрын
OH JA....i realy love these Tank Chats. this whole channel actually. The Tank Museum is maybe the reason to go and visit GB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH best regards from Germany and please just keep doing what u all do so damn good at The Tank Museum "!!!!!"
@petrolhead1977
@petrolhead1977 4 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed that dear Mr Willey talks about history in the present tense? You won't be able to un-notice now! A subtle but effective way of making the subject matter more important to the listener. I love these videos, keep up the good work.
@stevecampo4901
@stevecampo4901 4 жыл бұрын
You produce a first rate informational history piece. I watch your presentations every time I’m able. Thank you for carrying on during these difficult times.
@guenthpw
@guenthpw 4 жыл бұрын
What a delightfully competent, clearly well-researched presentation. And, I can't believe it is free from the usual wartime hate propaganda and polemics. Thanks, David Willey, for a first-class lecture.
@pavarottiaardvark3431
@pavarottiaardvark3431 4 жыл бұрын
Remember to decorate your StuG with samurai banners for maximum tankery!
@zafranorbian757
@zafranorbian757 4 жыл бұрын
You must learn to raise those banners in your heart instead of on the vehicle. Otherwise you'll pay a heavy price in battle.
@The21stPanzer
@The21stPanzer 4 жыл бұрын
@@zafranorbian757 true, so true
@imrekalman9044
@imrekalman9044 4 жыл бұрын
Some Latin and German graffiti also helps.
@elbucho8867
@elbucho8867 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the hippo
@safatsadman
@safatsadman 4 жыл бұрын
Painting bright colors(e.g red)on your Stug is also important so that enemy sees you and you get the maximum fear factor.
@christaylor6017
@christaylor6017 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you David for keeping us entertained when we are all stuck indoors. Stay safe.
@harrisonrawlinson5650
@harrisonrawlinson5650 4 жыл бұрын
You’re producing videos as fast as I can watch them, thank-you for this
@Trab8900
@Trab8900 4 жыл бұрын
I went to Bovington when i was about 10, I'm now 30 and this has become my bedtime story, a tank chat. Great videos keep em coming :)
@asabelz
@asabelz Жыл бұрын
This particular Stug Ps531-44 located at Bovington tank museum was lovingly nicknamed by the Finnish troops as "Maija" quite common finnish female name especially for the time. Almost all the 60 odd Stugs or "Sturmi"s used by the finns were nicknamed with a male or female first name.
@andrewwood6285
@andrewwood6285 10 ай бұрын
Yes the Vikings too named their swords.
@454FatJack
@454FatJack 5 ай бұрын
87 kill’s, 8 Stug lost. Some 28 participated in combat❤
@goshnodo
@goshnodo 2 жыл бұрын
David Fletcher is fantastic as you all can I'm sure agree however I believe David Willey is a superior presenter and I really enjoy his tank chats.
@OIFIIIOIF-VET
@OIFIIIOIF-VET 4 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff. We have a world famous WWII Museum in this tiny (800) people town of mine. We've been trying to get a proper WWII tank for years.
@toruko-ishibravo2zulu679
@toruko-ishibravo2zulu679 4 жыл бұрын
I resided on small hill summit with my troop and learned to ignore requested fire missions of a tank battery. Never saw the type or crews. Just the vapor of discharges above trees between us. That was in my second year overseas and had volunteered again to serve. Was promised 2 hours of sleep every 24 hours but took what I could get.
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 4 жыл бұрын
Orange trousers, dark blue jacket and beige cardigan. You can't teach style like that. 👌
@WozWozEre
@WozWozEre 4 жыл бұрын
Brown trousers mate
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 4 жыл бұрын
@@WozWozEre Definitely more of a burnt orange (to my eyes anyway).
@ianbrown9108
@ianbrown9108 4 жыл бұрын
Ah,the Michael Portillo look.😁
@Hillcapper1
@Hillcapper1 4 жыл бұрын
I could never pull that off but I’m not British either
@hattyfarbuckle
@hattyfarbuckle 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hillcapper1 As a Brit I think the Italians are best at the British country look..
@andrewsteele7663
@andrewsteele7663 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David, brilliant chat, I am a huge fan of the StuG and have thought that we need something like this in our military today, cheer's
@Farandyl
@Farandyl 4 жыл бұрын
"Ausf" is a short Version of "Ausfuehrung", meaning "Version". Keep up the good work!
@adrianrosenlund-hudson8789
@adrianrosenlund-hudson8789 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely example outside the museum in Hamina, Finland. Got one at the museum in Parola, Finland too. That museum is well worth a visit
@ButchE30M3S14
@ButchE30M3S14 4 жыл бұрын
The Tigers and Panthers where more an intimidating weapon, and they did its job! But at the end the Stug was the backbone of German army back then.
@StephenYuan
@StephenYuan 2 жыл бұрын
I have to wonder how useful a breakthrough tank really is when the German army was on the defensive 100 percent of the time after Kursk.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 11 ай бұрын
@@StephenYuan It would still have been an excellent ambush weapon.
@raycearcher5794
@raycearcher5794 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely SLATHERED with Zimmerit!
@rhysmurray4232
@rhysmurray4232 4 жыл бұрын
Can listen to this guy for hours ramble on about tanks, great work!
@imrekalman9044
@imrekalman9044 4 жыл бұрын
He could talk about the mating habits of snails, and it would be just as fascinating and educational. 😁
@HeyGuy4321
@HeyGuy4321 9 ай бұрын
​@@imrekalman9044i love mating. Also snails. So yes
@chrism2027
@chrism2027 4 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is actually that the German assault guns happened on the chassis of the 3er Panzer series and they no longer knew where we should use the band and from that U3 was developed because the Panzer III was more than inadequate in comparison to the Panzer IV or the assault gun version B, C, D or the Stug 4 on the PZ 4 chassis. Later, with the T 38 tank, there was the same thing that they made the Panzerjaeger Hetzer out of it, which was a damn good idea in itself, if only there weren't various defects that were on Tratten after a certain time.
@joshb7300
@joshb7300 3 жыл бұрын
The Swiss still use these. I was staying in a tiny Swiss village when on Sunday morning I was woken up by one of these rumbling past accompanied by a section of Citizen Panzer Grenadiers from the village, strewn with infantry weapons.
@brianblessing8494
@brianblessing8494 3 жыл бұрын
Due to the pandemic I didn't get a chance to travel to the Bovington tank museum this is another great way to see the vehicles with a very good description and presentation by Mr Willey.
@werre2
@werre2 4 жыл бұрын
There's one in Parola museum in Finland. We had some StuGs.
@launch4
@launch4 3 жыл бұрын
Another couple things about the StuG. It's a damn fine looking machine with it's big slabs of rolled steel at a modest angle. It's smol and cute and makes me wanna take it home with me. It combines high quality with simplicity, the way an old school tank should be. And somehow despite having the engine in back-transmission in front setup it still managed to keep a low silhouette.
@jacobosburne2565
@jacobosburne2565 4 жыл бұрын
20:48 If you look close enough there's a scary face that's been painted on the Pighead manlet; I'll say the crew who painted it understands the Stug Life, now hit it there Hans.
@roybennett9284
@roybennett9284 3 жыл бұрын
In my state of NSW, Australia. We maybe out of lockdown, upon the 11th. It's stuff like this and many others like forgotten weapons,and histories, which have kept me buyont and not losing my mind.
@_malprivate2543
@_malprivate2543 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. The StuG is one of my favourite WW2 armoured vehicles. Also very glad to see you chose a Finnish Sturmi for this video.
@ritchie799
@ritchie799 4 жыл бұрын
A brilliant history of a fine and very effective vehicle. Good mention of the production difficulties and variations to type/models. Thank you David.
@d0nutwaffle
@d0nutwaffle 4 жыл бұрын
Shurtzen in 3rd Reich : stylish metal sides Shurtzen in Finland : Pines
@vesaruntti
@vesaruntti 4 жыл бұрын
and added concrete armour.
@Orb_Pilot
@Orb_Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
There's also applique armour between the tracks, which you can see on the vehicle in this video. Finns weren't too fond of Schürtzen (not exactly practical in forests) so they decided to simply move the armour on the vehicle itself.
@wiryantirta
@wiryantirta 4 жыл бұрын
people to fins: "no Finland thats not what we meant by 'organic' armour'"
@kimmoj2570
@kimmoj2570 4 жыл бұрын
@@wiryantirta Pile of logs near roadside is the most natural camouflage there can be in Finnish countryside. Schurzen plates would had lasted on place maybe 1 day on typical terrain.
@Sideshowbobx
@Sideshowbobx 3 жыл бұрын
When history is told by the professionals and not the propagandist [History Ch.]- The Tank Museum in action!
@vtr0104
@vtr0104 4 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say, when the restoration was completed on this tank, it was pretty much.... ....Finnished :)
@richardm3023
@richardm3023 4 жыл бұрын
The China virus is funnier than you.
@elbucho8867
@elbucho8867 4 жыл бұрын
Leave now
@RU-zm7wj
@RU-zm7wj 4 жыл бұрын
Read More Read More.
@fherot8200
@fherot8200 3 жыл бұрын
I love the StuG, Hetzer and Jagdpanzer IV. Amazing innovation.
@arn_ice
@arn_ice 4 жыл бұрын
I found the history of the Germans' quest for THE tank killer but it was there in service throughout the war (WITH the infantry) very interesting.
@traxel14
@traxel14 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this insight on the assault gun. Lots of people do not realize that this was a very formidable weapon! It surely isn't the cutest, but it did the job.
@conan5300
@conan5300 4 жыл бұрын
Getting though lockdown one tank chat at a time, I'll have to go down to the museum again soon I'm so lucky I live close ♥️ 🇬🇧
@melchiorvonsternberg844
@melchiorvonsternberg844 4 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky too, cause I live near the Sinsheim/ Speyer technic museum. There is siting a Stug 42, Hummel and Wespe, Pz III N, Pz IV G, Panther and Jagdpanther and a lot of Allied and Soviet stuff as well. A great number of famous planes and of course a Stug III G...
@princeofcupspoc9073
@princeofcupspoc9073 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely on the short list for best armored vehicle of WWII. Inexpensive, low profile, good armor, torsion bar suspension, great gun, good optics, good radio, good off road performance. One improvement would be wider tracks for Winter and mud. And like pretty much all German equipment, it could use some simplifications (see PanzerJager 38(t)) for faster production. One note. Logs and/or concrete are a mixed blessing. It would help with HE rounds, but not so much with AP or HEAP rounds. It may be detrimental, depending on exact angle, range, etc.
@rayw3332
@rayw3332 4 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to hear more technical factors like the elevation and traverse of the gun, targeting problems, hull down positioning, "shoot and scoot," etc. And something about the StuH42.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 4 жыл бұрын
He talked about the Sturmhaubitze
@deonmurphy6383
@deonmurphy6383 4 жыл бұрын
For that find the Chieftain’s discussion if he has done one.
@89DerChristian
@89DerChristian 4 жыл бұрын
These Chats are mostly about the history, not the technical details. I am sure the other information is out there
@johndowe7003
@johndowe7003 4 жыл бұрын
These guns were pretty much used as artillery , meat in the front and the stugs in the rear a few hundred meter or so (on a good day) not too complicated
@Dockhead
@Dockhead 4 жыл бұрын
@Mactrip100 probably refering because it never had a turret case so in essence the tank itself moved more so than the traverse ability of the fixed gun.
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 2 жыл бұрын
The German turretless tanks are always easy to remember as they almost always have the stats of the gun tank one generation up. So the Stug III has the stats of the Panzer IV, the Stug IV has the stats of the Panzer V and so on.
@EpleGoesInsane
@EpleGoesInsane 4 жыл бұрын
Ooh I was wondering when we were getting a Stug video! Wonder what will be coming up on tankchat 100
@andyguy0610
@andyguy0610 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video David! I am really hoping to get down to Bovington once the virus situation allows. Like you say, the big metal, Panther, Tiger, King Tiger get all the glory, the Stug does most of the work!
@brucer81
@brucer81 4 жыл бұрын
Did he say 3000 liters of fuel? That's 792 gallons! Maybe 300. Another great tank chats video. Always educational and entertaining.
@Modellbyggaren
@Modellbyggaren 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, he added a zero. Fuel capacity was just over 300 liters.
@diggerpy
@diggerpy Жыл бұрын
thats 8 gallons! @@Modellbyggaren
@davidgoodnow269
@davidgoodnow269 11 ай бұрын
​@@diggerpyNo, liters are 1.06 quarts, 4 quarts to the gallon, so 300 liters is about 88 gallons! (Did you make a joke, by cutting off the second 8, about adding a 0 to 300? I just realized I might be correcting something meant to be funny . . . . )
@clausaurich
@clausaurich 2 жыл бұрын
The perfect mobile infantry support weapon. I love the tank with the short gun.
@bengunderman5382
@bengunderman5382 4 жыл бұрын
"Can be much more massed produced, in the German sense." LOL
@benaguilar1787
@benaguilar1787 4 жыл бұрын
For reference, the US made 49k M4 Sherman tanks during WWII. For Germany to have a bit over 20% of those numbers with this one tank is quite impressive.
@Szalami
@Szalami 4 жыл бұрын
It's 10k+ production number is even more impressive if you think about how bad the German situation for raw materials and supplies were during most of WW2 and that while cranking out 11k StuGs and StuHs, they also made 8k Panzer IVs, 6k Panthers, nealy 6k Panzer IIIs, ect.. For a power in such an economically terrible postition, even considering the materials wasted on Ferdinands and King Tigers and Jagdtigers... still impressive.
@CS-zn6pp
@CS-zn6pp 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that always gives me a chuckle is that the Soviets lost more tanks in each of the years 41, 42 & 43 than the German tank product in the whole war... Another thing that made me chuckle was dispite telling us repeatedly that the stuG was not a tank, by the end of the video he is also referring to it as a tank. 😁
@Cancun771
@Cancun771 4 жыл бұрын
@@CS-zn6pp Well, it's appropriate in a more colloquial situation, once the concept is understood. Even in the German military, in the standardized TC commands to the driver, it's always called Panzer if it is any sort of tracked vehicle. IFV, SPG, doesn't matter. "Panzer - Marsch Marsch!" www.virtuelle-panzergrenadierbrigade37.de/index.php/de/2-uncategorised/42-handout-fuer-leopard-2
@melchiorvonsternberg844
@melchiorvonsternberg844 4 жыл бұрын
@@CS-zn6pp Cause the Stug was in the role, that former tank types fulfilled. In the last year of the war, the Stugs III and IV, were the backbone of the german amored forces. And about the soviet casualities... If the enemy has the better crews, communication, better guns and optics and more quality in general, you have to built much more tanks, which get much more killed. How did you think, the Bolshevics, suffered 17 million casualties? From throwing snowballs...?
@BigDillis0321
@BigDillis0321 2 ай бұрын
I’m not sure why, but I’ve always loved these things. The pz.3/4 are great, the big cats are really cool, but something about a chunk of steel with a bunch of well trained goobers in it is just so badass. We always had abrams and Bradley’s to back us up when we needed it, but I can imagine how cool it would be to have a literal artillery piece attached to your unit for urban assaults, there to take out any hard points at any given time. We had to get shot at a lot and do a ton of back and forth over the net to get support like that.
@logoseven3365
@logoseven3365 4 жыл бұрын
The German production mentality is shown in the VW Beetle. If you look at a production run for a particular year, the beginning of the year is rarely identical to the end of the year. 1967 is a particularly diverse year with early, mid, and late year variations.
@davidgoodnow269
@davidgoodnow269 11 ай бұрын
German car manufacturing . . . I remember a BMW 325i, very popular, with three completely incompatible fuel pumps in three different locations in a single year. Mixed production and no way of knowing which you needed to acquire to perform a repair, until you strip out the highly inaccessible fuel system from engine to the fuel tank itself!
@CT9905.
@CT9905. 3 жыл бұрын
The StuG III and IV were always my favorite track vehicles.
@jon782
@jon782 4 жыл бұрын
Hitler probably took great interest because he was an infantryman, and he knew from experience how useful it would have been to have that in different situations he'd experienced.
@Neithan02
@Neithan02 3 жыл бұрын
Trench warfare that he ecperienced..... vs what the army did
@SerialChiller1000
@SerialChiller1000 3 жыл бұрын
Very possibly.
@Dildoswagginz_69
@Dildoswagginz_69 Жыл бұрын
The real beauty of these videos is the narration. I would love to see Willey do videos on other military equipment e.g. Dreadnoughts in the First World War
@andynixon2820
@andynixon2820 4 жыл бұрын
This particular vehicle is also half timbered - essentially it's a Morris minor estate car with attitude .
@Muck006
@Muck006 4 жыл бұрын
It doesnt even have any problems with a parking space ...
@burlatsdemontaigne6147
@burlatsdemontaigne6147 4 жыл бұрын
The Stug Traveller?
@gurkslunga
@gurkslunga 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that Stug is borrowed from the finnish tank museum in Parola. The marking to the left of the Saukopf gun mantlet is definitely finnish. media2.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/tl/9oz/dyx9/261218/1821051933.jpg www.andreaslarka.net/sturmi.html
@darrenhillman8396
@darrenhillman8396 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@penponds
@penponds 4 жыл бұрын
A reason those mid-century British wood embellished cars were called “shooting-breaks”...
@Wastelandman7000
@Wastelandman7000 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I don't know why this idea isn't still used, as its a lot less expensive than turreted tanks and it could be better protected than most AFV out there. And its lower than most AFV out there now. Because if you look at this thing's kill count....yeah, with good tactics you can overcome the lack of a turret.
@beausabreur1759
@beausabreur1759 4 жыл бұрын
This really helps detox the mind from political battles.
@TheReforger
@TheReforger 4 жыл бұрын
Great clip as always, very informative. I could watch Mr. Willey or Mr. Fletcher talking about the paint dry on the wall and not be bored.
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's Maija. :)
@Rvoid
@Rvoid 4 жыл бұрын
Maija who?
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rvoid Maija haa... A Finnish Stug III that, named by her crew.
@Rvoid
@Rvoid 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kumimono Dangit it should have been Maija hee first... Thanks for the info, anyway.
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rvoid Hoo, forgot the sequence. :p
@stephenbrand5661
@stephenbrand5661 3 жыл бұрын
His shadow moving back and forth on the gun is strangely mesmerizing
@K0ukku
@K0ukku 4 жыл бұрын
Finland used the StuG III in 1944 quite a lot, and it was very effective. You can still see a WW2 Stug III very next to the Finnish highway in Parola next to the contemporary service tank, the Leopard 2A4. We salute the tanks everytime we drive past them.
@williedesmond8201
@williedesmond8201 2 жыл бұрын
The finns used them because they are better for defense rather than offensive, the germans should have stuck with panzer vl Panthers and stugs from 43 they would of put up a better defense and give them more time to build v2s and jets to win ,but it was probably to late by then
@williedesmond8201
@williedesmond8201 2 жыл бұрын
@@IvorMektin1701 the v1 could be shot from the sky or a plane could touch it and it would go nowhere ,v2s hit when they went of and did do damage and got kills and they were getting better all the time ,one was being made for usa ,don't try tell me what I know the v1s were getting shot from the sky , v2s could not be stopped when they were sent stop trying to each history to someone that does there research on the topic
@williedesmond8201
@williedesmond8201 2 жыл бұрын
@@IvorMektin1701 cost effective but ineffective some after read about them or watch some thing more ,its no good if cheap if they stopped getting through which they didn't England learned to deal with them lol
@IvorMektin1701
@IvorMektin1701 2 жыл бұрын
@@williedesmond8201 The V2 cost ten times as much as a V1 and delivered the same warhead.
@williedesmond8201
@williedesmond8201 2 жыл бұрын
@@IvorMektin1701 yea and the v2 always got through the v2 didn't it was shot from the sky you said it was more effective it was not
@YksiSuomalainen
@YksiSuomalainen 2 жыл бұрын
The StuG III was simply a fantastic tank destroyer/mobile support gun.
@kshatriya1414
@kshatriya1414 4 жыл бұрын
There is one thing that makes my blood boil when it comes to Tanks and that is when people say that Tank destroyers are not a normal tank.. It’s just a tank used for a specific purpose. And this channel has never hurt my feelings because of that, And i’m grateful for that :,) EDIT: Omg, I really didn’t think i had to make it clear that i’m not talking about the Stug!
@herosstratos
@herosstratos 4 жыл бұрын
Darth Plagueis A Sturmgeschütz isn't a tank.
@kshatriya1414
@kshatriya1414 4 жыл бұрын
First of all i wasn’t talking about the Stug because it’s not a tank destroyer but an armored vehicle and a self propelled assault gun.
@yagdtigercommander
@yagdtigercommander 4 жыл бұрын
Yah not gonna lie i admit at one point i thought the same to but then i realized. Wait minute if on tracks its a tank may not be a conventional tank design but its still at tank nonetheless. Regardless of what role it plays if its fully tracked its a tank some might have really big howitzer guns to destroy static targets, some may lack a turret, some may have a long barrel for killing other tanks. Or some might be fast and reliable or others slow and temper mental or prone to chronic break downs. Some can be fuel monopolizers depriving other tanks and vehicles of fuel. However a half track is not a tank. It was a truck that thought is was a tank lol. It tried hang with the cool tank boys but he never could lol because he still had normal truck wheels with tires and tire tread combination doesn't look cool to alot of people. Even though I though it was interesting concept even it was practically for long term use in a post war era. The Tragedy of the Half Track The Lame. The Half Track thought he was to cool for old truck friends. He thought he could hang be friends with the cool fully track tanks. But when the Tanks saw that he was a half wheeled have tracked weirdo. The Tanks just mocked him and said you never be one of us. He Tried so hard to make new friends with the tanks. But sadly he could not keep the trucks friends he once had. Then a Truck asks how do I learn such power. Tank Elder replies not from a truck. I know that's being corny playing off an old Star Wars meme. But hey just thought I had to lol.
@KarlReimerGodt
@KarlReimerGodt Жыл бұрын
All tanks are not normal liquid transporting tanks or barrels.
@SeanCSHConsulting
@SeanCSHConsulting Жыл бұрын
no
@roelhodzelmans1004
@roelhodzelmans1004 4 жыл бұрын
Thx sir Willey, I love the chat and you have a very pleasant voice. Please be well!
@prof_kaos9341
@prof_kaos9341 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Wittman got most of his tank kills in a STuG. Though I think he also said he thought getting ATGs was more important.
@herosstratos
@herosstratos 4 жыл бұрын
Prof_Kaos He said, that a PAK is worth five tanks.
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 4 жыл бұрын
Really? According to wiki he spent some of his early time in MkIII as well as Stug and at about a year in the Tiger. A tiger in target-rich environment should easily outscore a Stug.
@DeosPraetorian
@DeosPraetorian 4 жыл бұрын
Whitman wasn't even the best German tank ace
@dakkahead517
@dakkahead517 4 жыл бұрын
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 and yet the STUGs had more kills than the Tiger 2s ever produced. There are plenty of other factors to consider though.
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 4 жыл бұрын
@@dakkahead517 There were almost 10x the number of stugs for one thing, but overall stats don't apply here for we are talking about one man. Wittmann spent about 6 months in a stugIII, another 6 in a MkIII, and over a year in a Tiger1. Most of his kills were in the Tiger, with 24 kills in one day on the Ostfront and 16 on another. And of course later his famous day at Villers Boucage, where he got 13 tanks and many other vehicles in a matter of minutes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6XTiYCMfrJsgMk
@darioscomicschool1111
@darioscomicschool1111 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I learned alot here!
@hgm8337
@hgm8337 3 жыл бұрын
Seems that the Corporal knew more about tank tactics than many give him credit for
@nzmonsterman
@nzmonsterman 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great non bias informative video. Fantastic presentation. Great work. 👍
@pelao824
@pelao824 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as i saw the rounded front of the STUG I knew it was Finnish. The finns poured concrete on those guys.
@yagdtigercommander
@yagdtigercommander 4 жыл бұрын
Yah neat to know i was wondering why it looked so odd for typical stug design.
@pelao824
@pelao824 4 жыл бұрын
@@yagdtigercommander Yeah, then they come little secondary details, like the MG shield on top; that's made out of a piece of the hull of a soviet BT-7, or the reinforcement bars above the roadwheels.
@miscellaneousetc.4280
@miscellaneousetc.4280 3 жыл бұрын
Such a magnificent presenter. Thank you so much for these. Love it
@cleanerben9636
@cleanerben9636 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Semple for the 100th tank chat.
@cgaccount3669
@cgaccount3669 4 жыл бұрын
I believe they just do tanks in their collection. Did any of the BS tanks survive?
@cleanerben9636
@cleanerben9636 4 жыл бұрын
@@cgaccount3669 not that I know of. I think they were scrapped. They were just too good so the Kiwis needed to deny anyone else getting a look at its superior design.
@anthonyhayes1267
@anthonyhayes1267 4 жыл бұрын
@@cleanerben9636 they only didn't adopt them, because they didn't want to insult God by being so powerful
@ataxpayer723
@ataxpayer723 4 жыл бұрын
@@cgaccount3669 The Bob Semple tank was replaced by NZLAVs. Most of them are in storage, as the NZ Govt cannot afford to pay for the fuel to run them, even with a FlyBuys card. See: www.flybuys.co.nz/
@alloydog613
@alloydog613 4 жыл бұрын
Great video for a great little tank! (OK, it's not a true tank, but...) The Tank Museum's Finnish example - I have met its cousins: Ps531-26 and Ps531-21 (-21 is at the Finnish Armoured Brigade base in Parola and -26 is about 10 km down the road from Oulu)
@wesleywain4533
@wesleywain4533 4 жыл бұрын
How the hell can u thumbs down something of fact and history. There’s no debate or personal thoughts. It’s what it is or was. Just rude to do so !!!
@slartybartfarst55
@slartybartfarst55 4 жыл бұрын
Haters will hate, others think it's funny, & will then look to see if they got a reaction from someone. Unfortunately there's no stopping them in this "hide behind a keyboard" age
@Kav82a
@Kav82a 4 жыл бұрын
Υου will see thumbs down in videos showing babies playing with pets.Some people are just jerks.
@CalgarGTX
@CalgarGTX 4 жыл бұрын
They thumb down because their granddad was blown to pieces by one while driving a sherman/T-34 etc..
@martinjohnson9316
@martinjohnson9316 3 жыл бұрын
When i was a boy the 'Airfix' Stug was the first kit i bought with all my spending money. Loved all the german tanks.
@at6686
@at6686 4 жыл бұрын
10,000 stug 3s built vs 50,000 Sherman’s and 80,000 t-34s. Tough odds.
@mikebellis5713
@mikebellis5713 3 жыл бұрын
And add British tanks
@panzerleader49
@panzerleader49 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome knowledgeable presentation. Still bite size but a mouthful, not a nibble. Keep up the great work for an audience that is trapped at home. Awesome. (from an old tank commander; M-48-M-60 all and M-1 to M-1A1 heavy)
@BorisZech
@BorisZech 4 жыл бұрын
5:35 Gewehr 43 in action
@highdesertutah
@highdesertutah Жыл бұрын
I was never in the military but self propelled artillery that can double as anti tank and even be used as infantry support sounds like an excellent use of resources. Fun fact at least once in the Korean War Sherman’s were angled up on dirt burms and used as artillery.
@01ZombieMoses10
@01ZombieMoses10 4 жыл бұрын
It's really quite sobering to realize that, no the German planners were not maniacs. Actually, when they tripped over a concept that was very practical and economical, they really did double-down. The entire world is quite fortunate that the economy and natural resources behind the designs of the most ambitious tyrant were just never up to the task.
@Knallteute
@Knallteute 4 жыл бұрын
There is a reason why the French and the Brits wanted Germany to become a Farmers Country. If it weren't for the Cold War they would have us held like a colony.
@viesturssilins858
@viesturssilins858 4 жыл бұрын
Well the West part of Europe is. The East just got another tyrant instead.
@Phantomrasberryblowe
@Phantomrasberryblowe 4 жыл бұрын
@John Matrix The British created the modern World is what I assume you meant to say. “The difference between the less developed and the more developed nations is a function of time: the British started to save sooner than all other nations: they also started sooner to accumulate capital and to invest it in business. Because they started sooner, there was a higher standard of living in Great Britain when, in all other European countries, there was still a lower standard of living. Gradually, all the other nations began to study British conditions, and it was not difficult for them to discover the reason for Great Britain's wealth. So they began to imitate the methods of British business. Since other nations started later, and since the British did not stop investing capital, there remained a large difference between conditions in England and conditions in those other countries. But something happened which caused the headstart of Great Britain to disappear. What happened was the greatest event in the history of the nineteenth century, and this means not only in the history of an individual country. This great event was the development, in the nineteenth century, of foreign investment. In 1817, the great British economist Ricardo still took it for granted that capital could be invested only within the borders of a country. He took it for granted that capitalists would not try to invest abroad. But a few decades later, capital investment abroad began to play a most important role in world affairs. Without capital investment it would have been necessary for nations less developed than Great Britain to start with the methods and the technology with which the British had started in the beginning and middle of the eighteenth century, and slowly, step by step - always far below the technological level of the British economy - try to imitate what the British had done. It would have taken many, many decades for these countries to attain the standard of technological development which Great Britain had reached a hundred years or more before them. But the great event that helped all these countries was foreign investment. Foreign investment meant that British capitalists invested British capital in other parts of the world. They first invested it in those European countries which, from the point of view of Great Britain, were short of capital and backward in their development. It is a well-known fact that the railroads of most European countries, and also of the United States, were built with the aid of British capital. You know that the same happened in this country, in Argentina. The gas companies in all the cities of Europe were also British. In the mid 1870s, a British author and poet criticized his countrymen. He said, "The British have lost their old vigor and they have no longer any new ideas. They are no longer an important or leading nation in the world." To which Herbert Spencer, the great sociologist, answered, "Look at the European continent. All European capitals have light because a British gas company provides them with gas." This was, of course, in what seems to us the "remote" age of gas lighting. Further answering this British critic, Herbert Spencer added, "You say that the Germans are far ahead of Great Britain. But look at Germany. Even Berlin, the capital of the German Reich, the capital of Geist, would be in the dark if a British gas company had not invaded the country and lighted the streets." In the same way, British capital developed the railroads and many branches of industry in the United States. And, of course, as long as a country imports capital its balance of trade is what the noneconomists call "unfavorable." That means that it has an excess of imports over exports. The reason for the "favorable balance of trade" of Great Britain was that the British factories sent many types of equipment to the United States, and this equipment was not paid for by anything other than shares of American corporations. This period in the history of the United States lasted, by and large, until the 1890s. But when the United States, with the aid of British capital - and later with the aid of its own procapitalistic policies - developed its own economic system in an unprecedented way, the Americans began to buy back the capital stocks they had once sold to foreigners. Then the United States had a surplus of exports over imports. The difference was paid by the importation - by the repatriation, as one called it - of American common stock.” mises.org/library/foreign-capital-investment-antidote-global-inequality
@Phantomrasberryblowe
@Phantomrasberryblowe 4 жыл бұрын
@@Knallteute Absolute drivel.
@Knallteute
@Knallteute 4 жыл бұрын
@@Phantomrasberryblowe just look up the Morgenthau Plan. It was a proposal of the Americans to take away all of Germanys Industry to take away any possibility to produce arms.
@sector-7blitz402
@sector-7blitz402 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or just Finland soldier using Stug with white camo is more badass and terrifying that the original german camo
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