This true for any field someone is in! I made the tough decision to stay in my field of work and go to school at the same time thus forcing my GPA to drop from a 3.8 to a 3.0. I almost quit my job to focus on raising my GPA, but I am glad I didn't, most employers, don't even care about my GPA once I present my work accomplishments to them in an interview.
@TheWhocares2339 жыл бұрын
You are a badass, i'm glad I found your channel...It's inspirational and reminds me to keep hustling in school.
@travro25259 жыл бұрын
8:45 "in your educational program,....you're getting taught by unionized teachers that genuinely argue against the concept of accountability"................... Brilliant! Well said.
@konradjablonski89137 жыл бұрын
I have graduated with first class bachelors degree at University. I had really tough time finding decently paid programming job, because I had 0 experience. All my efforts went into University. Took me about 4 months to get a decent job as Software Engineer, and only because I was recommended by a friend. Experience is essential to have.
@NotMuchHere9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, why not both. I did co-op in college. (Biochemistry) So one semester of work, one semester of school, 3 rotations and you have 1 year of experience, plus money! Each rotation my grades got better and I was able to retain more to apply to work. Grades get you past HR, experience gets you through the interview.
@FuNkT0iD7 жыл бұрын
Got a partial degree, couldn't be bothered with the math at the time. Experience and reputation alone are what gets me hired. LOVE to code and I can safely say.... "I can grind" :)
@kevinle50518 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video Eli. I'm a lot more calmer now!
@Joshua-wp5cx8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your views on this! Great video, short and straight to the point.
@TofuCate9 жыл бұрын
8:07 did you just shart yourself?
@TechXSoftware7 жыл бұрын
Tofu no shit, :P
@Pimpabutterfly6 жыл бұрын
this is the 2nd video i've seen of him farting and acting like nothing happened. LMAO
@thientruong32688 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting time out for this awesome video :)
@ffunit7 жыл бұрын
Showing you know what to do and how to do it is far more important than a GPA. I studied Physics and dropped out of in the 6th semester to run my own startup. I have since then been recruited by big and small companies; like Amazon, IBM, Accenture to name a few. They didn't care about my degree they cared about the work I'd done.
@8dholland4 жыл бұрын
7:56 I agree totally. I am 37 just finishing my Physics degree, which I deliberately tortured myself through to become a programmer/statitcian. Its just that, those people are looked at first. The A, people, they really have to mess it up in order to let me in. Personally coming from the service, I had to break so many bad habits that prohibited me from doing well. Book worms and service guys are polar opposites and usually don't like each other, but we both suck in my opinion.
@thepoliticalstartrek7 жыл бұрын
I think the bigger problem is when R in larger companies are ether the gate keeper, or even final decision makers. So really need to decide what size of company you want to work for also. A mid size non-technology company or lower would probably hire on experience. Where a large non technology company would more than likely nto even interview with out the paper.
@dignifiedDog7 жыл бұрын
My current approach: kill my grades at uni (1 sem down: success), and learn in the holidays languages and do projects.
@chigoziea.9915 жыл бұрын
That my strategy. I got a 3.61 GPA my first semester of freshman year and made a random vocabulary generator in Java. During the upcoming summer of my sophomore year if I don't get an internship or get into the summer research programs I applied to I'm working on making an android app or doing something with Python.
@stephenjones50238 жыл бұрын
It's been my experience that having a decent GPA opens the doors to some higher level internships. For example, if you wanted an internship at At&t, you had to have a minimum 3.2 GPA. And if you got an internship at At&t, you can imagine the doors that it opens up for you in your career field. Don't do the whole one or the other thing. Find the right balance between your studies and your work experience.
@JagjitBrawler9 жыл бұрын
awesome awesome awesome.......literally thank you so much for this video, it helps me a lot!
@JagjitBrawler9 жыл бұрын
can't believe i didn't subscribe until now :P
@Ichibuns7 жыл бұрын
My attention is lost really easily. The education systems ideas to teach me crap I don't need instead of the crap I want and need really annoy me. I'm going for computer science and engineering because I enjoy it. Most of the time. Literature on the other hand, I couldn't give too shits about. It's crazy difficult for me to read a book I'm not interested in. I'll forget what I read by the time I get to the bottom of a single page because I start thinking about something else. Math and engineering I'm doing really well. I was barely able to pass high school with a D average.
@leeknott86877 жыл бұрын
CLEP and other "testing out" strategies are your friends. For the stuff you hate (like government, history, humanities), test out, get the credits for about $30/credit, it won't affect your GPA and move right along.
@mrburns3666 жыл бұрын
This was me. I made Ds in stuff i have no interest in and made straight As in stuff i cared about. You might have ADHD. I do and struggled in high school because of it.
@mario62798 жыл бұрын
I have a horrible gpa and I'm in electrical engineering but I could care less because I would rather learn the material and gain knowledge than be some teachers pet and write bullshit essays out my ass without proper structure to the paper. I like to put meaning into everything I do or I might as well not do it at all.
@NotTheBestPvP8 жыл бұрын
That's not how it works, though. For instance, you just proved yourself you don't care enough to do the work or put in time and effort into the work.
@fremiamagus8 жыл бұрын
That GPA thing might be starting to change then because I am starting to see employers put the "GPA" field on some of their applications. Mind you, this is for easily replaced type jobs; which I find kind of sad.
@RazRikimaru1227 жыл бұрын
My Portfolio has gotten me far more recognition than my degree.
@tylerrousey5257 жыл бұрын
The teachers and standardized test situation I went to a school where at least 75% of people there didn't want to be there or would try on their test. That is why the school was doing bad was because the students didn't care. Who should be held accountable in that situation?
@dust79627 жыл бұрын
Tyler Rousey The students, put up with the BS for awhile. If you have a good teacher you'll be alright. A good teacher makes it seem like it doesn't matter if it's standardized
@NiNJAST0RM369 жыл бұрын
I have a BE degree in Computer Science. Mostly I get carried out watching Machine Drawings and try to work on those designs. Any advice for me ??
@noahchase2958 жыл бұрын
If your in College aim for the A+ in all your classes, that will make sure you end up with high GPA upon graduating. It will also open opportunities for you own its own.
@gabrielr.74233 жыл бұрын
Research career or professional career?
@josephwolf75525 жыл бұрын
I only got A’s in stuff I cared about such as astronomy , computers, and French
@Farisalhaj10 жыл бұрын
Very well said Eli! QUESTION: I didn't see you talking about ITL framework, its deep, most companies follow it, it has grown very large, have you had a chance to dig into ITIL framework?
@k2aka1119 жыл бұрын
I feel that I may have unique problem, but it also may not be as unique as I think it is. I have about 15 years of experience but no formal education, I can't get employers to take me seriously. This has forced me into part time IT/consulting work while I do masonry full time. How can I market myself to employers so that they take me seriously when I tell them I have the skills that I say I have?
@zach13928 жыл бұрын
portfolio bro
@willthecreator7 жыл бұрын
I'll try to do both I think it's possible
@jamesryan55549 жыл бұрын
Hi Eli! You mention that you need to be "built" for this field (IT).. I am going into Information Systems this coming fall for university. Would you care to elaborate on what you mean by being built for the field? What type of individuals are better fit ? What kind of thinking process? etc.. Thank you!
@TheAndrewforbes889 жыл бұрын
James Ryan In my experience you have to like to solve problems and continue to learn. If you're lazy and you want to just learn a job once and run through the same process every single day then programming is not for you. If you like to learn new technologies and solve problems using those new technologies and do new things every day then programming is for you. I disagree with Eli in this video though, he makes it sound like if you suck at programming out of college when you don't have any experience then no one is going to care and your job is going to be miserable, this has not been the case in my experience. Every mid level programmer and senior programmer I've met have been very helpful and has been happy to help you figure out how to program in an enterprise environment, you just have to be willing to learn the concepts rather than have the seniors do it for you.
@misterjoseph98868 жыл бұрын
why not try for both!
@shreyasrajanna73618 жыл бұрын
what should I do
@LonelyGraves10 жыл бұрын
Hey Eli, I would like to ask a question. I have a extensive knowledge in computers and their languages. As someone going into high school next year I don't 100% know what I want to do in life. I know I love every aspect of technology. What are some helpful places to not only get hands-on experience but also gain real life knowledge of the best paying and frequently needed jobs?
@Jimmyageek10 жыл бұрын
Learn Web App Development or Go for the A+ to find out Do You like Hardware Side of IT
@LonelyGraves10 жыл бұрын
I have built many computers and fixed many devices. I love programming and pen testing but can't get enough knowledge to be great. I want to get better but don't know where to learn. Have any ideas?
@LonelyGraves9 жыл бұрын
Iraklis pe Thanks for you reply, after posting this I ended up learning all the c languages and python but I don't know what path I want to take. Do you thing I should become a system administrator or a penetration tester. Thx
@Jimmyageek9 жыл бұрын
penetration tester , STAY Away, Become a Web Developer
@LonelyGraves9 жыл бұрын
Jimmy a Geek Thanks for your advice but out of curiosity why do you say that?
@syedinayathulla49516 жыл бұрын
Sir can I get admission in good universities for masters in petroleum in USA or Canada with 7.5 / 10 CGPA in bachelors
@ameenal-kaisi36978 жыл бұрын
Hey, I love your videos, they are very interesting. I want to know, would you rather hire a PhD with no experience or Bachelor's with 5 years experience? Thanks.
@Duxaization8 жыл бұрын
Ameen Al-Kaisi Bachelor with 5 years of experience. They have experience, learnt skills on the job and would have towards a goal under certain pressure. A phd is nice but theoretical experience doesn't mean it transfers practically. phd students arent in an environment of stress, deadlines and profit where they could have learnt interpersonal skills, industry experience or how a workplace works. Having said that, having some work experience after a phd never hurts. Employees would more be worried if you're not ready for their environment if youre just freash out of doing a phd. however you tac on 6-24 months of work, an employer looks and could see you're ready for work, since you've been working.
@imamassi8 жыл бұрын
Ameen Al-Kaisi bachelor all the way. It isn't matter about your study, what's matter that you can do the job well. People with 5 years experience, are already encounter a lot more bugs, develop a lot more application, facing a lot of problems, than PhD one.
@mustang19ms7 жыл бұрын
Highly functional autistic males is the best description of the programmer stereotype! :)))
@johnhendrixc.marcaida72236 жыл бұрын
judgmental prick
@shreyasrajanna73618 жыл бұрын
how to get experience
@gasb9118 жыл бұрын
From my experience, GET BOTH! Work hard in your university to get high GPA, and in the summer get an internship to increase your experience, DON'T go for a summer semester!
@erickaparicio61188 жыл бұрын
"What you have to understand is. . . " -Eli What you have to understand is that sometimes the things you say are a bit BSy lol, and I know that may be tough to admit. I can concede that the GPA factor doesn't reflect much in the tech world but in other professions it certainly does. I've met various 4.0's who were top notch on what they did, from economics, to chemical engineering. I heard you in another video giving advice to someone to go to the medical field because he's like 38 or 48 years old or something. "Medical in a heartbeat". And in that same video I believe, and in this one too, you said that "the thing about our field is that if you don't like what you're doing, it's a miserable field" (paraphrasing). Well take my word for it (dare I say, from a 20 something year old) when I say this, but if you're not absolutely committed to the medical field you will also be intensely miserable as well. Crazy right? It's these little things. Sometimes they're not well thought out.
@Oakwin_mb8 жыл бұрын
Well, this video is regarding the tech field...
@XGhostGamerX87 жыл бұрын
Erick Aparicio but this a tech channel mainly for computer science and computer engineering so.... yeah
@missionpupa5 жыл бұрын
Clearly a 4.0 grade doesnt give you better deduction skills.
@Konge5557 жыл бұрын
it depends on the country if you live in socialist country High GPA is very important
@marioantoniocrespoMexican922 жыл бұрын
Most countries in socialist they tend to be taller than average person capitalist countries. The average men in Colombia is around 6 feet tall & average women in Colombia around 5 feet 6 in height
@WhileTrueCode9 жыл бұрын
8:23 LOL SO -FFFFING TRUE
@joeycarr139810 жыл бұрын
F. excellent!
@ahmedbadal37956 жыл бұрын
i hate gba .....experiance ....skill ...profesion is what u need not hight score
@NeuroScientician8 жыл бұрын
Why does anybody thinks that he has an answer worth listening?