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[@thethoughtemporium]

Don't miss the exciting next episode of connecting neurons to a computer here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mV7TiJ-fqsuobLc We tested to see if neurons can grow in DMEM to see if our home made recipes stand a chance of working.

[@IHaveTheCIBCSmart]

Yuh

[@kswaes]

I like your funny words magic man

[@lithiumvalleyrocksprospect9792]

I'd love to see you start a project genetically engineer a mango tree to survive anywhere and it's fruit provide 100% human nutritional requirements.... Even if it's your cyborg future self that succeeds it would be a wonderful contribution to humanity 🙏

[@robyngiesbrecht5206]

I do love that thought emporium is functionaly a crowd funded mad scientist

[@hedgehog3180]

A new and more sustainable form of mad science.

[@timothyhayes9724]

I should not have read that while eating b/c I nearly spat out my food cackling 😂

[@AMPProf]

He makin zombies for sure

[@krash2430]

you've created him ! Is he Doctor Frankenstein or the Frankenstein Monster ?

[@mothaclysm]

@@krash2430 Both

[@calamatica]

As a cell biologist, I'm fascinated. It seems it’s time to seriously diversify the contents of the refrigerator in our laboratory.

[@noanyobiseniss7462]

You can bring red gatoraid to work, dilute and have some left over for your own mad scientist creations!

[@calamatica]

Also...Our budgets are not unlimited((((

[@NICK....]

no sir tax-man these energy drinks are 100% for Science!

[@Flesh_Wizard]

Monster Energy meat next

[@llearch]

@@calamatica To be fair, it's not the labs that think the budgets are unlimited, it's the purveyors of the materials used. :-(

[@4RILDIGITAL]

It's crazy to think that common grocery store items could potentially replace some of the most expensive elements in the lab. Very eager to see where this leads to, and how it could potentially revolutionize lab grown meat.

[@dakaodo]

Not entirely. There's almost always going to be minor or major compromises. You might be able to filter or separate out some of the undesirable elements, but every bit of that effort eats into the cost/time savings of using the retail alternative in the first place. But if something along that cheaper price point spectrum works "good enough" with 99.8% or whatever effective substitution, then yeah. For example, Thought Emporium mentioned two differences: the sports drinks significantly dropped pH balance out of the optimal cell survival range, and some trace elements in DMEM are situationally important for stuff like growing bones. I'm no cell biologist, but I'd imagine there are more nuances like these that they didn't mention. Another big one is quality control and precision to prevent variation. Two units of the same sports drink from different bottling plants or batches in the same plant could have a huge 0.2% variation in concentration of some elements. Not enough for a consumer to taste more or less salty, but could be enough to throw a precise lab process out of whack. A lot of the extra $100s of cost is for processes that ensure these error margins are orders of magnitude smaller. So the discount sports drink doping might be good enough for growing boneless McRibs or chicken nugget paste, but not for pseudo pork chops or beef ribeyes that need more realism. Good budget tier alternative for producing off-brand or generic synthetic meat, while the top quality synthetic meat will cost 2X more just to add the necessary 0.2% trace elements or whatever. Just like current consumer product price tiers. Or the discount stuff could work great for pumping out lower cost protein feedstock to feed to actual animal livestock that's raised for real meat. Not as environmentally or cost optimal as directly growing a high quality vat steak, but maybe it would be an interim technology that cuts cost inputs and greenhouse gas emissions by 10% or something, per pound of real beef produced. That's basically what industrial agriculture has been doing at a lower tech level for the past century -- grinding up undesired wild caught fish bycatch and waste parts from farmed fish to make fish meal, which they then mix into feedstock for more farmed fish or other livestock. Same for waste parts from butchered cows, pigs, chickens, etc that are fed back into the system to feed new animals. (and yes, this has been a source of increased system vulnerability to contamination, disease, and things like growth hormones recirculating back into the system as it approaches both higher efficiency and a slightly more closed loop of production)

[@pukvandepettoflat7082]

Lab grown meat ..? Dont you mean DIY grown meat ? 😁😆

[@Kiddio]

The reasoning is because those expensive mediums are specifically tested and the ratio of contents confirmed to not have anything additional in there to not throw off experiments. It’s the same reason anything “aircraft grade” is expensive. It’s also the same reason NIST sells peanut butter for like $400. You’re not paying for the item but for the paper trail to validate your results. This is especially important in healthcare research in the case of any kind of side effects or other issues later on. Stuff like this is definitely great to know, especially if you’re just doing some preliminary research into a topic, but if you’re publishing a paper then you should be using standardised ingredients/processes.

[@tynj4173]

you can't make me eat it

[@greycat5383]

Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened. A while back a lab tested using the old Shrinky Dinks toy to create patterns for use in microfluidics. It worked.

[@GammaRayven]

Using Gatorade of all things to grow meat, just amazing. It just feels like an april fools joke or onion article "Mad scientist makes breakthrough cost reduction in artificial meat production, Sponsored by Gatorade".

[@terohannula30]

Idiocracy was up to something, but it was not the plants but meat which craves electrolytes 😂

[@Vileplume87]

This is giving "how much sawdust can you put in a rice crispy treat before people notice?" And I love that.

[@Meethejarate]

Yeah, it’s just “how much green dekara and coconut water can you put in a Petri dish before cells notice?”

[@agiliteka]

although this is the opposite of the sawdust in a way, because adding more Green dakara makes it more tasty

[@skunkjobb]

A very bad analogy. This has nothing to do with thinning out a product, it's a new way of producing meat without killing animals.

[@Vileplume87]

@@skunkjobb I wasn't making an analogy I was making a goofy comparision

[@coryzilligen790]

@@skunkjobb It's _LITERALLY_ thinning out a product. Did you not catch that they are using the Gatorade and other drinks as partial replacement for the cell media? Or all that various other stuff as partial or complete replacement for the serum?

[@hlibushok]

Ah, splendid, we're getting closer and closer to finally finishing the ages old task of creating a Homunculus.

[@guts60]

The medieval alchemists would be proud!

[@Flesh_Wizard]

Let's not crush this one with a book

[@arcalranem]

homunculus is easy, though. Test tube babies already exist.

[@cevatkokbudak6414]

That would be a fucking insane and I want to see it

[@Tunkkis]

​@@Flesh_Wizard If it behaves, and doesn't spit acid at its creator.

[@smash_hamster]

About 25 years ago when I was a student, I was chatting to a biochemist about food and they mentioned that they'd never eat a custard-filled doughnut, because egg custard is a great growth medium and she'd seen how well it works for bacterial cultures.

[@Dylan-ln6qt]

Great video, but I also wanted to add some information about university research, for anyone interested 1. When getting grants Universities first take a portion for the use of facilities, this can go up to 50% but I believe 20-30% is standard 2. Assuming your lab isn't big enough for some major lab equipment like an NMR the university often has a communal one...that you must pay to use 3. The lab also needs to pay for graduate student tuition and wages 4. Now that the majority of the money has probably disappeared you now have to deal with whatever miscellaneous costs appear, maintenance of equipment, purchasing chemicals, traveling to scientific conventions Academia is basically a black hole that devours money

[@ritishify]

Such a shame. But it is the world we live in, and money seems to be the best tool we could've come up with. It's both one of my favorite and most hated inventions, haha.

[@Dylan-ln6qt]

Yeah it can be a pain, my advisor basically doesn't have free time with the constant grant applications he has to file, granted it is a fairly large lab

[@jinmushui1soul]

​@@ritishifyThis is not an issue of money itself, but of equitable relations. Universities consistently choose to exploit their facility, staff, and students because they can and are incentivized to do so.

[@ritishify]

@@jinmushui1soul I see. Although I still think that more money would probably radically change things, I guess the issue is more about the management side of things as well... I hope the situation gets better soon

[@GabrielleduVent]

@Dylan-ln6qt 1. When getting grants Universities first take a portion for the use of facilities, this can go up to 50% but I believe 20-30% is standard HAHAHA, it's over 60 at R1s. I think Duke is ~60, MIT is around ~65, my university is also around 60-70.

[@NICK....]

future racism will be about if you were a red gatorade test tube baby or a blue gatorade test tube baby

[@aegoni6176]

"You're one to talk! Mr came from egg juice"

[@miskr3272]

Sounds an awful lot like someone out of blue would say.

[@thomblueart8448]

well at least that makes more sense then the racism we have today!

[@RedstonekPL]

such a vitamin water thing to say 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@ViktorRzh]

More like dark bear or white bear.

[@TheLastPhoen1x]

"Milk is just purified blood." I guess all mammals are purified vampires.

[@deaddead698]

I mean-

[@jaythewolf7216]

just made me think of Dracula biting someone's booba . lady " help Dracula keeps biting my nips "

[@quaxicron]

bruh...

[@unbeatablegamer1403]

@@quaxicron no no, they have a point

[@mygirldarby]

That's why I don't drink it.

[@imstupid880]

Guys are really about to put out an open-source generic brand DMEM. I'm interested now how Aquarius, another Japanese Pocari Sweat competitor, would do. There's also apparently now a "new" Green Dakara, would be interesting to see if it does any different than the regular Green Dakara. I can help answer part of why the nutritional yeast did so well: it's literally just dead cells. When we brew, we use yeast nutrient, which is honestly just mostly dead yeast. In fact, a quick and dirty way to make yeast nutrient is to just boil a packet of bread yeast for a few minutes. The dead cells contain a lot of the necessary building blocks for new cells to grow, for obvious reasons. It's really crazy to me that any lab can just casually say they can order some DNA to get printed. Imagine telling someone that 100 years ago.

[@AR-yd2nd]

Not really open source, those brands are still proprietary. But cool af

[@laurieb3703]

DNA? Wassat

[@mkultragaming6939]

"Sprayed down with alcohol before going into the hood" is a terrifyingly close statement to myself

[@bensmith3304]

One important thing to keep in mind, these cell lines were started and maintained in DMEM with FBS. This means that cells that preferred DMEM and FBS thrived, while those that didn't died off. With rapidly multiplying cells, it would likely be quite feasible to gradually wean the cells entirely off of DMEM and FBS and onto a substitute. This may be much easier than trying to generate cocktails of growth factors. Another key point is that the cells themselves often make the hormones they want. This is why many cell lines prefer partial media changes rather than complete media changes. This way, the cells always get exposed to most of the hormones they've generated.

[@codiserville593]

Huh... I don't what you're saying but I kinda wish I understood more of what you are talking about now

[@goo894]

@@codiserville593 I think they're saying that we could get the cells to evolve so they could survive in pure gatorade

[@jacobwiens659]

They should definitely try and see if there’s a way to fully transition a cell line to a cheaper medium.

[@PhycoKrusk]

@@jacobwiens659 For sure. The cost involved in obtaining the growth media are one of the biggest obstacles to bringing down the cost of production. (The cost of electricity is another, but we already have a lot of information on how to solve that)

[@codiserville593]

@@goo894 well alright thanks for this possible translation. It's helpful

[@sjamesparsonsjr]

Please call it "Brawndo Serum, it has what cells crave"

[@Goodgu3963]

This is amazing and absolutely what it should be called.

[@victoriouspancake]

Clicked on this video expecting the Idiocracy references...did not disappoint

[@thethoughtemporium]

The plan was always to call it "brawndo: the cell growth mutilator, custard flavored"

[@sjamesparsonsjr]

@@thethoughtemporium Perfect, let me know if you want me to design the shirt :)

[@c1v1c2v2]

​@@thethoughtemporium the neuron optimized version can be Braindo

[@Unknown_unidentified]

0:08 YOU GET A VERY DISGUSTING CAKE!!! 🎉

[@turzinslifiter318]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@jakoblarok]

Haha! Around 13:00 I was like, "Wow, adding sugar... ha, it's like he's making a meringue" [puts into piping bag] "Oh..."

[@nikushim6665]

Pocari sweat can be found at most Asian markets both in the US and Canada, with many online retailers also shipping it from local warehouses. No real need to have it imported. Also it comes in its original powder form if you're worried about shipping weights. But all in all its effectively a Japanese clone of Gatorade made by Otsuka Pharma.

[@Yadobler]

Me rn in Singapore chugging the $1.50 (usd1) bottle of PS

[@Yadobler]

Also yes I wanted to mention they come in power form. I remember being in police cadet corps and our outfield ration included the powder. We mixed it into our water bottles that were brewing in the hot sun, and chugged it - horrible but delicious. Also had to make lunch using some cheap off-brand instant noodles, and I think some folks forgot to pour out water into the mestin for the noodles before mixing the PS powder. But anyways we opened a tin of sardines in tomato and threw that into the mestin of noodles and honestly, pretty good!

[@theendoftheworldhasbeenqui2485]

I wondered why he imported it when I can get a bottle of pocari from a local asian store in London for a few pounds. I'd be surprised if you couldn't also in Canada

[@ztheo2280]

@@theendoftheworldhasbeenqui2485 honestly it was probably just because its the best way to make sure you get the exact same product. yes its almost guaranteed to be the same locally but it might not be. Also i wonder if the powder might not be better because you could adjust the concentration if need be

[@llearch]

@@ztheo2280 In hindsight (yay, I can see clearly now!) the powder form probably would have been better. Still... next cycle?

[@thefrenchgunsmith6488]

Dude did not grew meat, he grew a pure gamer

[@NICK....]

can't wait to have a gamer burger one day

[@Somedude20282]

Gamer nuggets

[@aeriumsoft]

I made a gamer grape????

[@celestinemachuca2339]

Ew

[@ValeBridges]

Perfect for the Doom Brain Bot

[@barmetler]

I think mcnuggets are already made like this

[@legovogel8656]

Since coconut water performed relatifly good as a FBS replacement, maybe try turning other sorts of nuts/seeds into some sort of seed juice. Combining animal and plant produce could also be a way to broaden the nutrient composition, like mixing eggs and coconut water.

[@simoncleret]

"After several hours, Joe finally gave up on logic and reason and simply told the cabinet that he could talk to cells and that they wanted Brawndo"

[@BiologicalEngineer]

A few friends in my department (USU Biological Engineering) are working on creating an FBS substitute using subcritical water hydrolysis. They take algae and put it under high pressure and temperature to break down the algae into metabolites cells can use. The goal was to produce a vegan media that Upside Foods could use for cultured chicken. Pretty neat!

[@CaleGuthrie]

That's amazing

[@andresmorera6426]

Hopefully it can be used for all sorts of cell culturing applications beyond the private sector... And that the recipe and protocol is open source

[@Blimsky]

so a pressure cook it to a paste then feed it to vegans, sounds like the pink sludge in fallout

[@andresmorera6426]

@@Blimsky I am a vegan, and I approve of this message.

[@mbfhh]

God I love how much detail they go into 😭😭😭 take my money just don't stop making this amazing insane content

[@xeddiustripp6398]

You absolutely killed me with the bit around 13:25. Top notch

[@Seclusion68]

“A cow is just a machine that turns grass into milk.” The design. Its very human.

[@cyberious.]

it's very human,and it's going to ask you to go skatebord

[@DanTDMJace]

@@cyberious.asdfmovie refrence?

[@cyberious.]

@@DanTDMJace very much so

[@davivasconcelos7632]

The design is very cow

[@electronstudios1411]

same with every other animal. they are all just automated machines.

[@specificsetter]

new alchemy video just dropped

[@adengoldstein5130]

Next project turning lead to gold

[@crimsonqueen751]

@@adengoldstein5130 ...using mushrooms and baby cow juice

[@grapesandsand3816]

@@adengoldstein5130 wikipedia/Golden_rain_demonstration

[@sparking023]

If they whip out a large metal armor, we better be very worried

[@_marshP]

Next project combining a dog and a little girl

[@ineedprimos]

18:44 Ah yes, maggi, my nutritional and emotional supplement 💀

[@KS-nm6li]

hahahha I was like, he's making meringue, then he made meringue. xD

[@HawkTeevs]

Scientists around the world: Let’s use animal cells to develop treatments for patients Thought Emporium: *GATORADE MEAT*

[@cola98765]

Thought Emporium is the mad scientist the world needs more of.

[@porteal8986]

honestly the high cost seems to be one of the big barriers to practical lab grown meat, not to mention any other lab grown cells, so pretty useful

[@NoAIStudios]

@@porteal8986 Exactly. An imagine being able to supply all your meat at the cost of some gatorade and an egg (so about $2 instead of the normal $15)

[@duelviper9871]

@@NoAIStudios we re about 50 years away from every home having their own meat synthesizer in the basement that you just need to fill the vats with gatorade and eggs every month

[@brokenleftearbuglord9106]

Imagine being the Gatorade sales rep making the massive sale to a laboratory to find out they’re using the drinks to generate meat lmao

[@markopolo1271]

If this channel has taught me anything it's that biochemists absolutely fkn love E.coli and use it a lot more than the average Joe not in the know would ever expect

[@benjaminlamothe2093]

That's because they reproduce every 30 minutes, they are crazy efficient.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

Yep from what I've seen is since they reproduce so fast, they can quickly see any effects, changes & then go from there.. But I'm no certified scientist

[@am529]

there are a plethora of different strains, some of which naturally live in the human digestive system. Only a handful are harmful to people.

[@markopolo1271]

@@am529 I know I'm more so just commenting on how E.coli is used far more in biochemistry than anyone not in the know would ever expect. I for one didn't know until I stumbled on this channel just how much it's used in this field of work.

[@littlegrabbiZZ9PZA]

They're just overall pretty chill dudes. Very relaxed growth requirements, readily uptake DNA if zapped and/or sauna-ed a bit, don't stink to high heaven, they even come in nonopthogenic!

[@jupiterslight7746]

0:36 , crazy ass line ngl

[@renuissance]

thank you for your passionate projects that you bless youtube with. this stuff makes me want to go into molecular biology

[@PrebleStreetRecords]

For processing the eggs, take a look at what was used for “albumen print” photographic processes. The literature is not the easiest to find, it’s mostly in century old photographic journals. The goal was to have a clean and optically clear protein gel into which silver nitrate grains would be suspended.

[@rahulsharmajammu]

Prep for albumen print is basically what was done here. Take albumen, whisk till stiff, leave overnight, and filter out solids, 🤷🏾

[@Caenef]

@@rahulsharmajammu Ah, glair! Seems to be pretty useful stuff for more than just illuminating manuscripts and gluing books.

[@nyyppa7956]

The comment count is already nearing a thousand so I don't know if anyone reads this, but wouldn't it have been more beneficial to use carbon dioxide or some acid that you could later precipitate out, to separate the whey from milk? Vinegar (mostly acetic acid) is a weak acid with small molecular sizes that can pass cell membranes, so even after neutralizing the pH, it would keep reacting inside and outside the cells and mess up things. At least that's why one should never adjust aquarium water's pH with weak acids. Doing so could easily end up killing the fishes. Only use strong acids (nitric, sulfuric, muriatic) for that, which leave chemically more inert acid residues. Not sure if any of the aforementioned ones would be suitable for this purpose though. That's why I suggested either carbon dioxide (at least it's the easiest to obtain and apply with sodastream, not sure if there are other acid forming gasses that have high vapor pressure) that could be mostly evaporated from whey by bubbling the solution with nitrogen gas (pumping just air would remove the CO2 as well, but it might also oxidize something important), or maybe there's some suitable acid that would precipitate during the neutralizing process, like oxalic acid + calcium hydroxide. Just the first few ideas that came to my mind.

[@sneediumminer]

yeah acetate ion in humans is toxic so i cant imagine having a bunch of it floating around is good for the cells

[@user-fz1nu9uy6q]

Now i want to see what happens if i soda streamed some milk xD

[@nyyppa7956]

@@user-fz1nu9uy6q You'd get lots of foam, and coagulated proteins separating from whey. More importantly, I'm looking forward for your taste report, which is the, erm.. more interesting part 🙃

[@pigsnoutman]

Dilute sodium acetate is extremely benign. It's used in blood transfusions and neonatal care, so it's probably close to harmless to cells.

[@BobMcBobJr]

Could use dilute HCL. Make some more salt.

[@Yumari-Mai]

Can't wait to test the mad doom skills of that gatorade-powered artificial brain.

[@R-Tex.]

Man, you're freaking awesome! You make biotech so easy! These videos are awesome! But I do miss those older videos where you'd teach us making diy mods or even a whole new piece of equipment, like the nanodrop style spectrometer!

[@ironmanta0422]

When will you grow the doom playing brain in Gatorade

[@Peppermynt.]

ultimate gamer brain

[@eragonawesome]

I'm gonna guess "as soon as we figure out how to make it actually work" In fact, i would assume there's already at least some footage recorded of testing and such

[@AageV]

If you grow it in Gfuel it will be esports ready.

[@Peppermynt.]

@@AageV PERFECT

[@tinkerduck1373]

It's got electrolytes! It's got what brains crave for.

[@nekomakhea9440]

The missing ingredients are obviously Sugar, Spice, And Everything Nice, and *_CHEMICAL X_*

[@darthplagueis13]

I'm pretty sure sugar is already included.

[@teoeigi]

And then the perfect little girl was born

[@rose.isnotavailable]

@@darthplagueis13I can’t imagine being satisfied with the sweetness of a Gatorade, tbf. they’d be majority spice and chemicals which is something but isn’t the ratio to be power puff girly enough (according to my own conjecture let’s be real for a sec lmfao-)

[@knrz2562]

@@rose.isnotavailableerm huh uh ok 🫤 🤔 🙄 👍

[@jeffsmith9384]

we're trying to make something to eat, not give it the right to vote

[@D3M0N.77]

Man, your opinions about animals and their lives worth is sooo unimaginably sympathetic & Empathetic

[@Gaston-Melchiori]

13:15 this part reminds me of the Merengue sketch from Les Lutiers XDD

[@gehthoffentlich]

I'm a little confused - wouldn't the most important test here be a control with sterile water diluting the DMEM? To see if the alternatives are either really helping (like DMEM) or just not hurting anything while enough DMEM is available. Sorry if it's a dumb question.

[@lucky-segfault4219]

Nah that's a good point. If DMEM can be diluted with distilled water and still work well, that's an instant drop in costs cuz every lab has access to distilled water. Heck, AC units make it as a side effect of cooling the air

[@jetison333]

Actually I think your entirely right! I hope he responds to this comment

[@theeyeofomnipotent]

Could be, but the 100% version with replaced fbs does remediate the results somewhat, Although yeah the data is better with dmem 0-100% with reverse osmosis distilled water dilution, it's not that complicated to do too, However the research from japan in video is probably more complete,

[@person8064]

If my bio knowledge hasn't failed me, I think that's a negative control: a group that doesn't receive treatment and isn't expected to produce a result.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

​@@jetison333you're*

[@blu12gaming44]

I'm happy that you looked into this as most organisms aren't too picky about what they ingest to survive and most of what we consume is either organic or derived from something that is. Like you said in the video: the biotech supply industry intentionally runs up the prices of otherwise inexpensive compounds simply because they know they can due to the grant money flowing into universities and other institutions. Without people working to innovate outside the current system: very little progress will ever be made on things that major corporations aren't interested in. Just the same as how the home computer hobbyists brought about the innovations needed for a truly digital age: biotech enthusiasts will need to learn how to progress outside of the (mostly closed-off) mainstream in order to make real progress in things.

[@nerdygem8620]

I used to work in pharma, and we said that companies slap an extra 0 on the price tag for the industry. A sterile pack of 15 IPA wipes cost $50.

[@Gakulon]

Yup, very often in the economy the most profitable solutions aren't the most innovative ones but rather the most stagnant ones. No need to waste money developing a new solution (in multiple meanings of the word) if you can just keep forcing people to buy the current one.

[@patrickstribling]

Hey all, this just popped up on my home feed, so i decided to watch the video, well you have a new subscriber, this was pretty cool, and peole in the comments seem really nice, and i really love learning new things,can't wait to check out your other videos, never to old to learn new things..

[@Foreheadgoblin]

I was watching in horror with the egg scene thinking why is this turning into a cooking video OH GOD IT'S A WHOLE ASS PIE WHERE DID MY BIOLOGY GO

[@noob19087]

Wow, that felt like 6 minutes. I was wondering "wait that's it??" as the video ended. You sure made it entertaining!

[@Pwn3dbyth3n00b]

8:49 I'm pretty sure the lab supplier sells them like that for consistency across experiments for being able to replicate experiments from papers. It's like how the ISO standard tea is like 500 dollars for a very bad and bland tea.

[@DemsW]

That's 100% it, they pay to remove any variation factors. Same goes for most lab stuff.

[@skorp5677]

Have no clue but tend to agree. Not required for exploratory stuff like on this channel though :)

[@jonhinman2471]

Not sure who came up with removing all variations in order to 'baseline' ; it's a monocultural bland paradigm and actually eliminates any spice which extends life and expands consciousness. We need to understand and implement the interaction between rosemary, cell growth and antibacterial properties for instance as this among others can play a vital part in organic growth overall

[@DemsW]

​@@jonhinman2471 Removing variation is the only way to be sure your results are the the product of the experiment and not some outside force. I've never seen anyone argue against that. Then in the experiment you can make as many/much variations as you want.

[@okaydetar821]

@@jonhinman2471 It's just meant for running experiments, that's not meant to be a final product.

[@vensmoons]

17:57 Egg yolk... not yoke. A yoke is the wooden beam they use to keep oxen together when pulling wagons. I just couldn't keep my mouth shut.

[@LAPCGames]

As a (former) lab technician who worked in cell culture for years, this is incredible I never liked openned a bottle of FBS (or baby cow juice, I love this name) but I never though about changing it with Gatorade

[@Nothingseen]

"When you think about it, milk is just purified blood" is NEVER a sentence I expected to hear

[@josephcasebeer7683]

So are tears.

[@hairymcnipples]

What? That's ridiculous. It's nutritionally fortified sweat!

[@CharlieKell]

Don't think about the circumstances for the cows to produce milk then.

[@feuerling]

Milk is just fancy sweat. Much more tasty than normal sweat though, luckily.

[@GoldenPantaloons]

​@@feuerling How DOES normal sweat taste?

[@OldShatterham]

really would not have expected beer to do so well...

[@dr.spudies1555]

Much like your average dad over 40, cells just love beer

[@MattRose30000]

it's what secretly keeps humanity alive for millennia

[@dr.spudies1555]

I mean historically speaking wine, beer, and spirits are some of our oldest inventions.

[@hammerth1421]

It's basically yeast broth, especially since the way they used it massively dilutes the alcohol.

[@bernard832]

Brewing beer is cell culture. The main difference is that the spent media is the desired product.

[@KingMB_XJ_Official]

13:24 I don't know why, but I like the casual swearing in such an educational video.

[@Donko_]

Why did "a cow is a machine that turns grass into milk" make me laugh so hard?

[@wincentywilk7511]

Fun fact: you can actually buy pocari sweat as a powder for dillution, I'm pretty sure that would cut down a little on shipping.

[@thehuntermikipl1170]

A little?

[@_Circus_Clapped_]

​@@thehuntermikipl1170 just dilute the powder in your medium, the powder is way stronger than whatever they put in the bottle

[@thehuntermikipl1170]

@@_Circus_Clapped_ don't troll

[@marjon1703]

Why are academically interesting videos being demonetised whilst Scamverts are STILL being pumped into my home by KZbin?

[@DarthVader-ch4um]

Because KZbin makes more money off of them, so of course they allow it.They are both scammers after all.

[@LowQualityShitposts]

So true

[@mlgsamantha5863]

The more educated people are, the less likely they are to click on scam advertisements

[@NineSun001]

Idiots click on adds and generate revenue. KZbin has no interesst in actual humans. That's why channels aimed at children make 100x more money then channels aimed at adults. Adults have ad- and/or sponsorblocks and mostly don't click on ads. Kids do.

[@thecandlemaker1329]

Can't sympathise with AI art users, sorry.

[@vandarkholme4745]

The thought emporium: carefully researched projects filled with art and science The thought emporium: meat robot

[@Bragthepro]

8:02 $75 for three pieces of paper it’s crazy Unless they actually contain instructions on how to hand build a mummy and even then you can just look it up

[@thecowilsoninc4175]

It's done with Papyrus paper. Papyrus is starting to grow very low in supply and is very expensive. There's barely an acre left in Egypt. Small pockets remain in other areas of the world as well, but Papyrus paper is very expensive since the process is straining and uses a lot of the plant.

[@owenkegg5608]

Hearing the phrase "meat laser" shook my entire world in a way previously not imaginable

[@JustADiamondBlock]

"No John, your not allowed to be making meat out of Gatorade in the garage"

[@vineet_2003]

Holy shit the concept is freaking genius If this works on large scale And is refined The cost of animal tissue culture will reduce by a significant amount

[@mbirth]

The cost might get reduced, but the market price will stay the same. That's how it usually works.

[@the_seg_faulter]

Nobody wants lab grown meat

[@chriswheeler6092]

People have already figured that out and started investing serious money. Now people are debating the Morality of it.

[@charlethemagne5466]

​@@chriswheeler6092 raising and killing a cow is a lot more immoral than growing meat. One requires death and suffering the other doesn't, and no I'm not a vegan.

[@dieselbaby]

@Ger954 aka the future

[@Frostfern94]

Just finished work and nearly fell asleep part of the way through. Woke up to the meringues and was VERY confused

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

"From Timmy the rat to Timmy the tube of cells." A blender... I joke.

[@lucky-segfault4219]

Now we need the reverse study: how much Gatorade can you replace with dmem before gamers stop seeing advantages Will dmem become the sports drink of top athletes?

[@abyssstrider2547]

Lol

[@Darnetal57]

Note to self: the first step to my genetically engineered catgirls project might be gatorade and beer.

[@oliverer3]

The confusion when you said "maybe the cells wanted more umami?" Gave me a good laugh xD

[@nicholas-dv1mg]

holy, i literally just watched idiocracy last night, and now it's in a video i am watching less than 24 hours later

[@memejeff]

I was reading papers some months ago looking for replacements for FBS growth factors and half gave up. Never thought of eggs and milk. Genius.

[@antonpavlov9019]

The project of growing a complete gamer on gatorade is ongoing I see

[@AirLancer]

"Damn it who drank the cell media in the fridge?!" "The what?" "THE GATORADE!"

[@Strategy_gameR-bm3hb]

“What do you get when you mix eggs,milk,Gatorade,and nutritional paste” school lunch

[@blar2112]

The joke is on you, providers have been using 70% gatorade on the medium they sell for ages to increase the profit margin.

[@chyza2012]

that'd the make final mix 91% gatorade, and it still works well, you could probably get away with homeopathic concentrations of medium at that rate

[@blar2112]

@@chyza2012 Homeopathy is a profitable business, expanding to grow mediums.

[@ThatGuyRNA]

Every day, I get closer to my clone army

[@tr3vk4m]

you should probably throw those tissues away

[@adora_was_taken]

elsewhere in the world, someone's working on a droid army

[@ThatGuyRNA]

@@adora_was_taken that’s my buddy vin, I sure hope we don’t have conflict in the future

[@minetomek]

@ 5:23 He let his inner Nugget speak (from Kindergarten)

[@electroninja8768]

With regards to using milk, about a hundred+ years ago physicians did try using milk as a blood replacement for transfusions. It didn't work, but I thought it was interesting to consider that other people throughout history were on a similar path.

[@CAMSLAYER13]

You can use coconut milk a blood plasma substitute in a pinch

[@72perseids]

Fellow biologist here, I think this should be someone's master's thesis or student project and it is showing promise to be a startup one point. A big however, the only reason I believe that DMEM's can't be replaced by homemade recipes in academia is not the growth issue, more about replicability of the experiments. It's already so hard to follow protocols even though you use the exact brand, the exact amount indicated in the paper. Other than this, let's break the monopoly of lab suppliers lol.

[@kokofan50]

Maybe the industry should move away from proprietary formulas to standardized formulas

[@72perseids]

@@kokofan50 as the video says, more or less each DMEM contain the same ingredients however such small differences may create certain issues. The point here is the homemade recipes will complicate the issue even more and academia will probably won't like it.

[@andresmorera6426]

Hell yeah, let's break those price gouging monopolies and cartels that make research unnecessarily expensive!!! Also, I agree small differences in cell culture media do cause issues. But in a hypothetical situation where labs are making their own DMEM from the same recipe, I believe from my experiences in cell culture that variability that already exists due to differences between lots of FBS is way more significant than the likely differences between homemade batches of DMEM substitute. I hope that sentence made sense.

[@pukvandepettoflat7082]

Whahaha that part when he went completely off topic all the sudden was too funny and reconizable to me 😂😭😂

[@Respectable_Username]

I love how science KZbin channels like you and NightHawkInLight are putting in the work to bring down the costs of these complex scientific processes in ways that major research bodies simply aren't! That's not a slight against the research bodies, they're simply optimising the resources they have for different constraints. But it's research like this that will make whatever findings _are_ discovered more accessible to the public due to those lower costs ❤

[@Volvith]

God, i love science. >laberatory technicians developing a nutritional aid for artificial cell growth in labs< _"Wait... What if we just swap it out with Japanese Gatorade?"_ *>actually works

[@pistol0grip0pump]

For a moment there I thought those cartons said "Concentrated concentrate" I was thinking "That must be some INCREDIBLY concentrated...whatever the fuck it is!" 🤦😅😑 I need sleep, but AFTER this awesome vid!

[@Flesh_Wizard]

I was concentrating on the concentrated concentrate too

[@victorlarignon2814]

11:36 "think about that when ou eat your bowl of cereals tomorrow" Well thanks, I was eating one while watching the video 😂

[@oxiosophy]

man ironically this feels like the cutting edge of science

[@Somedude20282]

Buddy you could have found a local Asian market for that pocari sweat & green one.. But props to burning that money for science!

[@ThePenisMan]

Not everyone has a local Asian market. I know my town sure doesn’t, and it’s the second biggest in the state I’m in. The most Asian thing I can buy here is like… lo mein noodles from an actual Asian restaurant and offbrand pockys from Trader Joe’s

[@solofdragons6446]

Thing is, Thought Emporium is a Canadian channel, and outside of major cities it can be very difficult to find ethnic markets that sell stuff like that. Even within the shops that do, it can be difficult. I know here in Manitoba, there's a store in Winnipeg called Oomomo, it specialises in Japanese products. I have not once seen Pocari Sweat or Dakari Green there, but even if i had the stock changes with whats popular in Japan. but Japanese products in general can be hard to locate here. Most Asian markets i've seen cater more towards Chinese and Filipino products as we just have a much larger population of Chinese and Filipino immigrants than we do Japanese.

[@Shall0e]

​@@solofdragons6446inside London, Ontario, there are a couple of Asian Markets, and I'm decently sure they have those there, if he lives nearby or wants to make the trip, it's a good idea to check.

[@rogerp.2442]

@@solofdragons6446He’s in Montréal, Pocari Sweat is 100% available here on some japanese/korean supermarkets

[@ultrarageman2956]

18:25 "Maybe the cells wanted more uMAMI?" hahahahah😂 so great.

[@nickythedimensionhopper5160]

Can we please talk about how this biology science video just motherfucking SWERVED in the middle of everything I was invested in to make A HHECKI NG MERINGUE Omg fr that was the funniest diversion I've seen in a while, we have reached the wacky hours today and I'm subscribin'

[@pauljones9150]

This is fascinating Great job again mr mad scientist

[@noob19087]

I guess feline bovine serum is like the real life equivalent of LCL from Evangelion.

[@KarachoBolzen]

​@@azertyQthe cat cows are taking over

[@memejeff]

MooYow

[@noob19087]

@@azertyQ Wow. That's hilarious, how did that get in there? I'm keeping it!

[@Adshercott]

Yoga serum, but only the one pose.

[@Pixelarter]

18:32 Try combining the top performers to test if they can complement each other somehow. Maybe a mixture of some can have a more complete nutrient profile for the cells. Also another idea to try: "Soylent complete meal powder". It's supposed to be a balanced mixture of most nutrients the body needs.

[@alecboi777]

“How’s your steak honey?” “Tastes blue.”

[@virusxbroken1824]

this man will find the cure of cancer

[@abadger047]

its so cool being able to watch these videos now having done cell culture in lab. this channel was such a huge inspiration for me over the last six or so years

[@Aqoric]

I think testing electrolyte powders would be an interesting next step, there are unflavoured ones that can be purchased in bulk for very cheap( $20 for 250L). Would remove any additives from the equation.

[@brylozketrzyn]

At that moment just go for pure additives. Electrolyte drinks are mostly salt, sugar and flavour, sometimes with a small amount of potassium chloride

[@Aqoric]

@@brylozketrzyn Proper rehydration formulas often contain BCAAs and other amino acids as well as

[@brylozketrzyn]

@@Aqoric more complex ones for sure, but we can get aminoacids from many sources. It is about balancing nutrients and hormones.

[@Aqoric]

@@brylozketrzyn Absolutely, my original point was simply for large scale production it would likely prove cheaper

[@mikechiu9767]

The meringue bit was hilarious, LOL.

[@jackbrown3689]

fun story my grandfather blew the exact portion of his hand as the blue part in your logo off building home made rockets before the war, he'd have loved this channel, as do i

[@shootingblueyes]

Months of patreon support to pay for a teaspoon of baby cow juice, worth it.

[@ethans6539]

Aw sweet man made horrors within my comprehension, thanks to this awesome channel!

[@paradoxreboot]

When you added sugar to the eggs I thought "omg is he feeding the cells a merengue how posh" lmfao

[@MineSpeak44]

that was some really cool results. I noticed the best fbs 100% replacements were not also the best at 50%. I'd be curious to see the fbs test with 75% added for an extra data point

[@sreal-iron5898]

bruh 13:20 was such a genius prediction from whoever edited or scripted the video! i literally zoned out and got caught spot on, i enjoyed that !! thats a whole different layer of humor

[@SkipperDannyD]

I was lucky enough to work in a chemical plant as an operator, yhe company was the type you'd take a concept to, and they'd do the R, D & P... and never before in my life have I been more regretful than then... the fac I didn't study chemistry GUTS me.. or any the sciences tbh. Literally EVERYTHING is chemistry. And it blows my damn mind.

[@StoneBox_761a]

blud is bluffing hard with that grammar, he did not work in a chemical plant yall.

[@LordDragox412]

@@StoneBox_761a He was just an operator making the shine, the rest of the gang was doing science on improving the taste to sell it for more.

[@StoneBox_761a]

@@LordDragox412 regardless, i dont think he worked there with that grammar, the requirements to be there are immense.

[@LordDragox412]

@@StoneBox_761a He used to have perfect grammar, but then he drank some heads. That's why he's regretful he didn't study chemistry in middle school. Quite a sad story.

[@christosboukouvalas7107]

This was a fascinating video. Although not currently studying in the field of biology, I am curious to know if a symbiotic culture like Kefir could make milk, or similar products, better growth media. Anyways, great video as always. Thank you for making such content free, it's been a very long time since I've been to a genetics lab as a student and I miss those days. Good luck with every project.

[@patrikniklasson4059]

16:28 A handgun, e.g.