The BRUTAL Executions Of The Russelsheim Massacre

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Towards the end of the Second World War, the Allies carried out mass bombing campaigns against Germany and sought to bomb them into submission. Many German towns and cities were levelled to the ground as the Germans lost World War Two. There was a great fear within the German population of air raids and bombs, and because of this the Russelsheim Massacre occured.
During one bombing raid, a B-24 Liberator was shot down over Germany and the USAAF airmen parachuted to safety, however were captured. The next evening a RAF air raid levelled the industrial town of Russelsheim, with the airmen being taken to a POW camp. But on the way, the railway lines had been damaged during the RAF raid and they were forced to march through Russelsheim. During this march, they were set upon by an angry mob who believed the American airmen were actually the British airmen responsible for the bombing of the town. They were set upon and beaten to death by the mob before a air-raid warden shot them. This was obviously a war crime, and after Russelsheim was captured by the Allies they learned of the massacre.
The perpetrators were brought to justice, however there were over 100 who were allegedly involved in the beatings, but only 5 men were sentenced to death. They were condemned for their involvement and were executed inside the yard of a prison.
So join us today as we look at, 'The BRUTAL Executions Of The Russelsheim Massacre.'
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[@TheUntoldPast]

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[@cobeer1768]

Brutal? They got off easy. Sounds like youre on the war criminals side

[@disillusionedidealist3446]

FYI - Staff Sergeant Forrest W. Brininstool survived his wounds then spent the remainder of the war as a POW. He passed away in Berrien County, Michigan on 14 October 2009....thank you for your serve....

[@stuka97]

My uncle was a B-17 Pilot during the latter part of WW2,We are German American and have a German Surname also my uncle spoke fluent German. In late 1944 my uncle along with his crew were shot down over Germany and taken prisoner the Officer in charge noticed my uncle's last name and said "Why are you bombing your own people" ? I am not sure what my uncle replied but he spent the rest of the war in a German POW camp they were treated humanly for the most part.

[@j1bc]

A sad story. You can understand the snger of those who were on the receiving end of our bombings.

[@stuka97]

@@j1bc I do completely .

[@10AntsTapDancing]

Your uncle could have asked him why they were destroying Europe and bombing cities and killing innocent civilians themselves.

[@stuka97]

@@10AntsTapDancing That probably would not have been a good idea considering the circumstances .

[@therealunclevanya]

@@j1bc how about people like my father who was bombed out of his home in England?

[@at1970]

A family friend was shot down during a bombing raid. He basically landed in the town they had just flattened. The locals grabbed him and the surviving crewman and beat them up and were getting ready to string them up when german troops arrived and saved their lives by taking them from the civilians. He always related that he was never so glad to see armed German troops in his life. He spent the remaining months of the war in a pow hospital.

[@BorgesyAlvarez]

that's what happens when you drop bombs on cities or towns killing women and children

[@davidguardado4739]

@@BorgesyAlvarez Germans shouldn't have fcking started it then should they ?

[@karl-p.schlor9022]

@@davidguardado4739 Germans didnt started that war against civilians (non-combattants), the British Air Force started in 1939! Why dont you know that, you followed propaganda!

[@davidguardado4739]

@@karl-p.schlor9022 what are you talking about ?

[@davidguardado4739]

@@karl-p.schlor9022 Germans invaded Poland in 1939 after a false flag operation that used murdered civilian prisoners dressed in Polish uniform as an excuse to invade . So they're basically proper wrong'uns from the very start .

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

Who is here after watching Masters Of The Air Episode 6?

[@202reece5]

Me

[@jensenwilliam5434]

Thank you!

[@bustermorley8318]

To be fair if someone dropped bombs on me I probably wouldn't be in a forgiving mood if I got my hands on them.

[@basedyt6485]

No shit.

[@muskokamike127]

To be fair though, if you were a country that started a war to take over the world, can you blame anyone for fighting back? You don't get to claim to be a victim when you're the aggressor. I know it's a popular past time with antifa and blm but they too are lunatics.

[@basedyt6485]

@@muskokamike127 Typical nonsense. Germany invaded Poland, bad on them, at which point Britain & France declared war on Germany. France alone had a larger military than Germany but it folded under the German attack (sound familiar?). I'm no fan of Nazi Germany but failing to acknowledge the cruelty inflicted on the German people by the Anglo-American bombing strategy borders on psychopathy. A person who thought like that might, say, drop a nuclear weapon on civilians already defenseless & starving to prevent another nation from invading the bombed nation, oh wait....

[@muskokamike127]

@@samkangal8428 Just so you know? German women had the right to vote since 1918 so that's a cop out. "did they vote for the nazi party" doesn't really matter. Their country started a war. Millions upon millions supported the war. I bet those same mothers had NO problem going to work in the factories making munitions, tanks, mortar rounds, etc. Yes, they'd be pissed off that their enemies dared to fight back BUT doesn't mean they have a right to be. That is 100% emotion driven. "how dare you" fight back, you should just bend over and drop trou. This reminds me of all the videos out of women hitting men then being SHOCKED when the men defend themselves......

[@basedyt6485]

@@samkangal8428 Some might say just that. I wouldn't. Lemay's strategy was brilliant & brutal - it worked. Firebombing Dresden worked, nuking Hiroshima worked, but what of the 1,000s of Laotians killed from US bombing of the Ho Chi Minh Trail? Not condemning the actions taken but people's tendency to be glib about such things is disturbing.

[@jeeperspeepers8323]

Excellent vid. Thanks.

[@bennyandersen742]

There were horrific massacres all over Europe after the war against Germans, not many were brought to justice for that, war is a mess

[@justsomeguy4099]

Punishment well deserved

[@bennyandersen742]

@@justsomeguy4099 yes, especially when children and innocent civilians were involved, a lot of Germans didn't harm anyone during the war, some were even anti Nazis, still , they were cought up in terrible massacres, often when they were driven out of expropriated areas after the war, you are a complete idiot

[@justsomeguy4099]

@@bennyandersen742 no mercy. I've noticed in recent years people making the nazis not look so bad. Just people caught up in something is what I keep hearing. How quickly we forget what the Germans did. Stop with your innocence talk. Most of them loved the nazis. That is until Allied forces got to Getmany and then all of a sudden none 9f them supported it. They supported the Nazis all the way until they lost. That shows you who the German people are.

[@bennyandersen742]

@@justsomeguy4099 Most of them loved the Nazis? So what about those who did not? Your reasoning is like from a 5 years old child and pretty much as stupid and simplistic as the Nazis themselves

[@Biffo1262]

@@bennyandersen742 So you don't really give a shit what the Germans did to other countries and their innocent citizens then?? You only care what happened to those that supported the war. I'm afraid there can be no distinction between one German citizen and another when you have to prosecute a war to end it. Executing fliers that are trying to end a war their country started and crying foul when they bit in the ass is a despicable act. Did they really think their own air force was innocent of killing civilians? If so they must have been pretty stupid, the poor innocents....my arse.

[@georgedonaldson6252]

There's no real victors in this sad story. Much like the principal of war itself. Once again yet another insightful upload.

[@jackkunkel]

Who said that a documentary about a massacre has to have "victors"?

[@rogernicholls2079]

I think you mean insightful!

[@georgedonaldson6252]

@@rogernicholls2079 Thanks for correcting me I'm dyslexic. Hope I have spelt that correctly Roger.

[@georgedonaldson6252]

@@jackkunkel No one.

[@brucenadeau2172]

why do people feel sorry for german people when they started the war not the allies

[@CzechImp]

This incident is the basis of a scene in Episode 6 of Masters of the Air.

[@johnnycobalt2758]

What they did was wrong, but carpet bombing civilian towns is wrong too.

[@dovidell]

The Luftwaffe bombing Rotterdam AFTER the Dutch surrendered was WHAT then ?

[@simonkevnorris]

Not to forget the Condor Legion bombing Guernica in the Spanish Civil War. Also the Germans did bomb London and many other cities early on in the war.

[@CH-qw8gb]

It also caused the German High Command to withdraw thousands of 88 artillery pieces from the eastern front to act as AA cover for German cities... this changed the ability of the Germans on the East Front to fight the Russians and allowed the Russians greater successes. My Dad was told this by an ex-German Army Officer who had fought on the eastern front in 1947.

[@ericrachut4207]

@@dovidell That was due to a delay in communication.

[@ericrachut4207]

@@simonkevnorris The bombing of British cities occurred in response to the English bombing of Freiburg. The Brits began and finished it. At the end, they bombed the historic center of Emden - leaving the docks, a legitimate military target, or as legitimate as existed in the last weeks, intact - and also killed 23,000 refugees on the seashore of Swinemuende. Guernica is another story.

[@fastyaveit]

This channel always gets a thumbs up from me.

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks mate!

[@davidgriffiths7696]

As always, we see the tragic outcome of preferentially selecting criminals as top political leaders. The focus is on civilians who were watching the neighbours and families being burned to death to realise strategic political objectives. This moral disconnect and general immunity for political leaders remains a grave and imminent threat to the existence of civilisation. Law and punishment is only applied to the civilian victims of political crime, not to the original perpetrators, which only encourages new generations of psychopaths and sociopaths to run for political office. And so the cycle repeats. This is the lesson of history, keep the trash out of politics, or we will be going back to a particularly hellish version of the Stone Age.

[@jamesrice4072]

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Yes, some escaped justice. But many of these political leaders were tried, convicted, and many hung. And just as many took their own lives. I'm not sure I would call that true justice. And those that followed those psychopaths, paid a heavy price. I'm old enough to remember the devastation. An entire generation was lost. And hopefully, future generations will remember and not go down the same path.

[@aryanson]

Just like Biden was selected...

[@davidgriffiths7696]

James Rice Thanks for the contribution. Agreed, but WW2 was almost the sole exception, and the executions/imprisonment occurred because the Allies fortunately happened to win. Is there anything uniquely evil about these German politicians at this particular time in history, or do such as these continue to talk their way into powerful political positions in every government? I am firmly convinced of the latter which is not only statistically FAR more likely but is also borne out by the long and continuing history of political immorality. One polity is expected to bomb and slaughter the civilian population belonging to another on the basis of competition between opposing politicians. Given the amount of economic, environmental and social damage these people do, a code of exemplary punishment would be appropriate, not de facto immunity from prosecution, which only reinforces an existing very dangerous trend. This may be the only convincing justification for nuclear weapons, not that it keeps civilian populations in check, but that it acts is the sole deterrent for the corrupt and psychopathic specimens of humanity that routinely concentrate in political positions, at a seemingly higher concentration that the 1-5% of the general population found to be on the psychopathic/sociopathic spectrum. These people must be permanently excluded from political positions before we can break out of the cycle of destruction and rebuilding, starting with the worlds nominal democracies. We have to actively and scientifically eliminate this problem immediately. And relying on civilians suddenly beginning to learn the lessons of history en masse has never worked before. Humans are conditioned by their evolutionary past to choose dangerous, corrupt, but brighter than average leaders, as this must have conferred survival advantage in the savanah, and previously the tropical jungle. But this does not work for us at all in an organised interconnected global civilisation.

[@jamesgollan8602]

@@aryanson what may I ask has Biden got to do with this?

[@blueband8114]

David Griffiths, unfortunately politics is full to bursting with trash.

[@GermanShepherd1983]

Sad thing is, a lot of Japanese citizens did the same thing or worse and nothing happened to them. Why did the japanese always get away with murder and yet the Germans were always held accountable?

[@jameswallis6093]

These touted precision raids were anything,but. The Norton bomb sight,with the best of operators could get within blocks on a clear day. In Europe, the weather is seldom ideal, and many bomber formations included over 1000 bombers.This meant a squadron leader would give the bombs away signal, and the entire group would open bombay doors and release, = I IN the latter years Bomber Harris decided to use day and night massive fire bombing of civilian ,and urban areas ,as a punitive measure.In Dresden, Hamburg and many others massive fire storms were created that could not be extinguished,The total death count varies between 400,000 up to 1 million,

[@TheBucketSkill]

They ate 2 nuclear bombs... what more do you want??

[@kentcarter835]

If I was going through what those people were suffering and a handful of the guys doing the job floated down on parachutes, I would have probably acted pretty ugly too.

[@dovidell]

Even with the famed Norden bombsight , a very large percentage of bombs dropped by USAAF ( heavy) bombers fell hundreds of feet away from intended targets, which meant that precision bombing could only REALLY be done by planes like the DH Mosquito , which were both faster AND more accurate than the B17's and B24's , whilst carrying a comparable bomb load well into Germany

[@dovidell]

.....and YES , the USAAF DID use the DH Mosquito

[@theman8149]

Well thank f--k for that sounds like umbrellas would have been sufficient cover.

[@jpjpjp453]

That the Mosquito was a classic and capable aircraft is without a doubt. However, it's effectiveness as a high altitude bomber wouldn't have been much different in terms of accuracy. Also, at the usual USAAF bombing altitudes , Mosquitoes would have suffered even worse casualties than B-17/24s did. (So would any light or medium bomber, for that matter)

[@dovidell]

@@jpjpjp453 The Mossie had the lowest crew casualty rate of ANY of the British bombers of all types - as a pathfinder it was perfectly capable of " lighting up" a target at medium heights , so why not use it as a bomber in that respect ? (IMHO , mossies of various configurations , could have done the job of the B17 with a better crew survivability rate - the problem was the numbers that would have been needed ( daylight OR night time )- I still recon that 50 or even 100 mossies could have done the( precision) damage of a much larger bomber group , if for instance , they had a P 51 D escort - my five cents worth

[@jpjpjp453]

@@dovidell I gave a detailed post that was deleted by youtube for reasons unknown. To summarize, For maximum accuracy and bomb density, a tight formation of Mosquitoes would have to bomb from altitudes and speeds that would put them right where German fighters and flak were highly effective. Over certain targets (Merseburg, for example) it would have been suicidal.

[@Patrickrooney1962]

Thank you again for sharing another of your insightful videos on bringing to justice those who chose to inflict murderous acts on allied prisoners. Those who perpetrated these acts of murder deserved to be put to death. They had their own free will and they acted like monsters . Again thank you for educating us . Another absolutely amazing video presented brilliantly..🙏👏👏👏👏…..P

[@deniseatkins9407]

How terrible a lot of the events you present to us I never knew happened

[@martinmaier352]

If you call the killing of six allied crewmembers a massacre, how will you call the slaughter of hundreds or thousands of women and children in Ruesselsheim by dropping bombs more or less accurate? In many bombing runs the civilians were the targets. For example it would be pretty difficult to find any war industry in the lovely medieval style city Rothenburg ob der Tauber, which was bombed in the last weeks of the war. Bombs with delay by time fuse to hinder the rescue teams included.

[@Original50]

I'm familiar with Rothenburg o.d.T. The old-town was deliberately spared bombing due to orders from a US officer who loved the medieval town and is a pristine example of an intact Fachwerk town still used in many films. However, there was/is a major rail-terminal OUTSIDE the town, which would have been a valid target. I live near Rüsselsheim. The entire Rhein-Main area was and still is a dense transport and industrial hub, so all bets are off re. collateral damage. Hot-blooded mutilation and murder of POWs deserves the death-sentence.

[@RickPop85]

my oma survived the terror bombing and the ptsd stayed with her for life

[@hedylogospothos9206]

And I’m sure the terror her country caused stayed with many people for life as well, they all deserved those bombs they all helped fuel the war machine.

[@ahashdahnagila6884]

@Rectang Please at least translate "oma", so the readers know you were talking about your "grandma". Danke.

[@davidguardado4739]

You started it

[@282XVL]

The allied powers did not terror bomb. We strategic bombed a vile regime, itself guilty of the worst terrors the world has ever seen. If you’re going to dish it out you best be prepared to eat some yourself.

[@henkdam8593]

@@282XVL allied bomber crews are also war criminals

[@johnvanzyl2960]

Justice!!!!

[@brynstarkiller7419]

russelsheim is twinned with my home town. I have visited there with the organisers and it’s so beautiful. You have to feel for the towns people and why they did it.

[@lancetuckey6403]

Good....

[@robertchubb1518]

There are publications called AFTER THE BATTLE of two types. One in magazine form (which I believe) is a quarterly edition and others in fantastic book formats....They cover many aspects of (in particular) WW2. They are really very well researched and are well known for their impartiality. For those that are familiar with these publications (please forgive me as I introduce them to those that don’t)...also offer “Then and Now” comparison pictures that show (as the statement states) the scenes as it was THEN..and what it is like NOW in our modern times..(yes some are a few years old..but one that is interested in this era can REALLY bring their studies, workings and even true feelings of the EXACT place that a moment in history took place..) Now why am I mentioning this? Well..this tragic event was covered in one of their publications. It shows as well as discusses with eyewitness reports etc the events that unfolded in those tragic days. It also discusses that the two German guards tried to stop the crowd..but as it became a mob they could not control it. Remember this was an event that started quite literally like “a perfect storm”...(for those P.O.W involved!)...IF the train had not been derailed/stopped then all these men would more than likely survived. It was only due to unforeseen circumstances/difficulties due to the recent R.A.F bombings that they were on foot at all! Marching with “only” two guards..I do not think ANY of them..the P.O.W’s OR the two German guards thought anything other than “a bit of spitting” etc was anything other than a “routine” tasking... It goes to show (like we saw in Northern Ireland when those two soldiers were murdered and butchered by being dragged out of their car in Belfast during a funeral march) how quickly a mob can form when incited. Oh and notice..incidentally..those murderers were not properly bought to justice...were they? (Only edited because KZbin insist on messing with spelling and grammar it knows nothing about..)

[@ericrachut4207]

Thanks for the posting. AFTER THE BATTLE is fair and detailed in its analyses.

[@pauljamison3340]

The two woman that incited the beatings had their death sentence commuted to jail time!!

[@richardl772]

Yeah, that seems to happen a lot…….

[@TheWolfsnack]

@@richardl772 ...it is called "white male privilege"....

[@peterbaxter4547]

I enjoy this contributor’s content- well researched ind interesting. However, the downward inflection of he’s voice make it hard to listen to for long periods. Get on top of that and you will be 100% and not just 90%. Hope this doesn’t sound petty, I merely want to binge-listen to this brilliant channel.

[@danielwatson6529]

😆 wtf thats crap - his voice is fine to me and i hope your comment doesn’t hurt his feeling. Its nice to have a regional UK accent. Not an upward inflection of every word like in the US. dont listen to him buddy your voice/show is spot on !

[@markmullin4246]

@@danielwatson6529 Like in the us? Wtf you complaining about?

[@hisdadjames4876]

I totally know what you mean, but it is simply a particular UK regional accent and Id rather the guy stuck with it and remained authentic to his identity.

[@cathydonnellan9174]

Yes,petty. Much better than listening to American accents.Can hardly understand many of them,with their regional accents!

[@191gav]

All the words created in the English language have been changed in the us even changing the meaning of some they should get with the language its called English lol

[@evo5dave]

I think we need an execution video with a less dramatic title in the future: "The somewhat dull execution of...", "The meh execution of..."

[@cathaloneill504]

This video does make you think. To beat someone to death is a horrific crime. Yet the constant fear surrounding the people as the Allies push forward(portrayed as war criminals by Goebbels) and the regular air raids would push many to extreme limits of sanity. Bombings were utilized to create fear. So were the citizen's reactions not a product of the allies bombing success? Were the executions revenge rather than justice?

[@boxwoodgreen]

Be careful Cathal about drifting into a "moral equivalence". Germany started both world wars. Yes there were lot's of complications, but no western allied nation ever invaded an inch of German territory at the start of either war. Both Imperial Germany, and National Socialist Germany invaded other nations for conquest and plunder. 20 million people were killed in WW1, 75 million killed in WW2. From both wars there are of pictures of the German populace cheering/"heil-ing" the outbreak of war. One from the outbreak of the first world war actually has Hitler visible, and identifiable in the cheering crowd. The German people sowed the wind with monstrous violence twice in the last century. They reaped the whirlwinds ... justly.

[@cathaloneill504]

@@boxwoodgreen Firstly Germany did not start the First World War and that's a well-known given. They were blamed for starting the First World War as they were the largest Axis power. It doesn't matter if the German populace was pleased with the outbreak of war. Many peoples from many nations celebrated outbreaks of war. I don't know how the iconic photograph of Hitler at Odeonsplatz has to do with the above, also that photo has come under question as a fake created by the Third Reich as propaganda. It could be argued that the Allies of World War I should also hold responsibility for the WW2 because the Treaty of Versailles that they constructed was too rigorous, and motivated the dissatisfied German people to support Hitler, facilitating his rise to power, also with Appesment Hitler was boldened by the likes of Chamberlin. Nevertheless, it is likely that the debate will continue, as the opinions among historians remain divided.

[@stevenvandemsky7290]

@@boxwoodgreen Germany didn‘t start the First World War. Get your facts up straight!

[@kurzeful]

@@boxwoodgreen what would you have if your house was bombed by the allies and the perpetrators was caught? Would you tell them "thank you, lads, good job"?

[@boxwoodgreen]

@@kurzeful No different than any soldier should act dealing with already surrendered, disarmed, and in custody Prisoners Of War. You are either a civilized person, or you are not. The civilians committed premeditated murder. You suggest you approve.

[@TheBikerDodge]

I just want to ask if anyone one here has read a book entitled "Other Losses" written in 1989 by James Bacque. it may not change your mind about Nazis, but it just might make you think twice about the righteousness of the Americans.

[@Lucyinthskyy]

Nazi sympathizer

[@TheBikerDodge]

@@Lucyinthskyy I most certainly am not a Nazi sympathyser. My father fought against the regime almost for the entire war. I simply wanted to show that the Americans are not as squeaky clean as they make out. If you read the book I mentioned you will discover that 1,000,000 wermacht pows died as a result of mistreatment by the American and French forces. Some were even coerced into joining the French army and sent to fight in Vietnam. If you read the book I'm sure you'll find it riviting, even if you choose not to believe it.

[@lorddaver3019]

@@TheBikerDodge I notice you miss out the British. Don't you know that RAF Bomber Command carried out a massive night-time bombing campaign against German cities from 1942 to 1945?

[@TheBikerDodge]

@@lorddaver3019 Yes sir, to my eternal shame, I did know that, and you are right. I should have included the British, and many other nations. War seems to bring out the worst in all of us.

[@TheBikerDodge]

@Arkos I'm afraid I don't know of any books on the subject, but I have to agree with you regarding the bombing of civilian cities towards the end of the conflict.

[@ToMoOhKa]

The fact that you could be hanged for going after a crew of people who litterally bombarded your house to oblivion baffles me.

[@numeitor7075]

They weren’t, so….

[@Mike-tu7uw]

They didn’t bomb their houses, dummy.

[@boxwoodgreen]

When a uniformed soldier discards weapons and surrenders, they are by law to be treated as prisoners of war, and not harmed. The airman were in custody, being escorted by two German soldiers as POWs when the mob set upon them. The torture and killings that followed was murder.

[@johnottr]

@@Mike-tu7uw Ummmm, yes they did mook.

[@Mike-tu7uw]

@@johnottr ummmmm no they didn’t, mook They didn’t bomb that town, they were being transported to a camp. Besides what difference does it make? Murder pow’s and you have pay the piper

[@juusohamalainen7507]

In war killing is not restricted in practice as everyone knows. If airmen bombed civilians it was ok to kill the airmen. Those who should be killed in first instance are leaders of nations who go to wars. It is their incapability to prevent wars that is the reason for all this suffering. Killing aggressive leaders of nations should take place well before any wars.

[@chrisabraham8793]

Also told in the After the Battle Magazine.

[@stevesloan7132]

Total war means destroying the ability of a society to maintain an army. I think total war was invented in the US Civil War. The German Airforce used this method too. What goes around comes around.

[@billbyrne7891]

What else would one do with them after bombing your town

[@boxwoodgreen]

Put them in a POW camp as was intended before the mob arrived. The civilized thing. No murders = no trials = no convictions = no hangings.

[@pe.bo.5038]

Accounting to your option Chuck Jaeger wolud habe had to be hängen! He openly anmieten Shootingstar a German pilot in his Parachute

[@billbyrne7891]

@@boxwoodgreen I know what I would do with the bastards if they killed my family

[@ericrachut4207]

@@pe.bo.5038 Yes, and he was not the only one. This is explicitly forbidden by international law.

[@geoffhorgan6822]

But german flyers also got beaten up in england sometimes and those people were never prosecuted

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

Big difference between roughing someone up and beating them with metal rods before shooting them & dumping the bodies in a mass grave.

[@gregedmonds7152]

All had blood on their hands how would we feel if our house was destroyed I

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[@walterTbaggins]

Not too sure on this one. I'm aware of the legalities but it seems a bit rich to call the people who just killed five soldiers war criminals when the soldiers just got done firebombing literally thousands of civilians.

[@arrow1414]

For the sake of consistency, would you say the same for any Luftwaffe airman who were captured by the British public for bombing London?

[@walterTbaggins]

@@arrow1414 Yes. While it's not quite a fair comparison as the Luftwaffe never did anywhere close to the same amount of damage to London, I would prefer it if the Allied pilots were handed over to the proper authorities and treated in accordance with the Geneva Convention. Likewise I would prefer for my British countrymen to hand over a Luftwaffe pilot. But I wouldn't be able to condemn them if they took the law into their own hands given the following legal mitigating factors: - Extreme emotional distress, possibly amounting to temporary insanity. These people had just experienced a firebombing of their town - most, if not all of them would have lost their homes and loved ones in a particularly gruesome way. The level of trauma was so high as to override any learned moral or legal restraint and trigger an instinctive fight response in the people present. - Self defence. Even during WWII saturation bombing of civilian targets was a war crime. Both those ordering and participating in the bombing were guilty of committing war crimes and the civilians present were the victims. Their response was an act of self defence - they directed their violence against the aggressors that had attacked them, in this case specifically a crew that had been shot down because they physically could not reach the other active aggressors because they were flying overhead. - Heat of the moment. This was not premeditated murder. The civilians did not start their days with an actionable plan and intent to kill those men. They acted on the spur of the moment, in hot blood, lessening their culpability if they were to be convicted. The above seems to me, even by the standards of the day, to be sufficient to exonerate the civilians. If not it is very definitely enough to reduce their convictions from capital murder to manslaughter. To enact the death penalty in this instance smells more of petty revenge against a powerless defendant than justice to me.

[@arrow1414]

@@walterTbaggins What would be the "proper authorities" in this case?

[@walterTbaggins]

@@arrow1414 the military, as per the Geneva Convention.

[@arrow1414]

@@walterTbaggins The civilian leadership ordered them-or allowed it on the behest of the military-to do it on both sides so how would that work? Order their men to do it but then hand them over to the late enemy for trial? Won't work and it would be unjust to the bomber crews.

[@m998hmmwv7]

Another Dresden..

[@petesmith9472]

Locals killing downed airmen was common in both sides.

[@bigantplowright5711]

Was it?? When did the British murder German aircrew??

[@simonkevnorris]

Th Soviets killed around 22k Polish officers in Katyn and blamed the Germans for it.

[@delby66]

@@simonkevnorris The Soviets were just as brutal as the Germans

[@johnstewart9745]

Why not show the hanging 🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧

[@thunderK5]

For the name of the plane, the Bugs Bunny nose art was surprising clean. Warner Brothers characters have always been popular as art for American military vehicles and aircraft.

[@WillyEckaslike]

explains the mentality of the people who fly them

[@justin36004]

@@WillyEckaslikelike the mentality of the Germans who started the war in the first place.

[@WillyEckaslike]

@@justin36004 u dont know the real reason it began

[@justin36004]

@@WillyEckaslike let me guess. Da Jooz

[@bfreesun]

Victors justice

[@potatofry1237]

Any body check out the new iron Maiden album it kicks ass. Metal rules!

[@hisdadjames4876]

Not condoning cold-blooded murder, but I can understand the rage and vengeance of citizen victims of the systematic bombing of defenceless German cities of minimal military significance in 44/45. Had the war had a different winner, that brutal process might have achieved holocaust-like status in the post-war narrative and trials.

[@bon7029]

To be fair, if someone destroyed half the city I lived in and I caught them, I wouldn't be keen on sparing them either.

[@justsomeguy4099]

Germany got what they deserved. They werent above the suffering.

[@biggseye]

@@justsomeguy4099 Actually they got a lot less then they deserved. The entire German nation should have been divided up and given to the surrounding countries. Very member of the SS should have been executed. The entire country was nothing but savage garbage, unfit to called human. They paid dearly for thier support of a Man man, but not nearly, dearly enough.

[@bubalusarnee6325]

@@biggseye kümmert euch um eure eigenen Angelegenheiten/ mind your own business

[@WillyEckaslike]

@@justsomeguy4099 your american arent u?...i can tell by ur lack of education and inability to do critical thinking

[@blueband8114]

I can actually see the executed's side in this, however the wrong they committed. If they had witnessed friends, family etc made homeless or killed by the bombings and wrongly thought those men responsible. I can see why they wanted revenge. At the end of the day, the trial and executions, were revenge, for revenge.

[@lorddaver3019]

So you would presumably accept the summary executions of captured German pilots by British civilians who saw friends and neighbours killed by the bombs of the Luftwaffe?

[@lorddaver3019]

@Sebastian Maximilian Firstly, Hitler was the aggressor, not Britain. Why did he invade Czechoslovakia and Poland? What justification did he have? None. And I explained to you why Britain declared war on Germany. Was it too difficult for you to understand? Did you actually read it? Roosevelt wanted nothing to do with becoming involved in a war with Germany. It was Hitler that declared war on the US. Remember? And regardless of which politicians did what, British civilians were the innocent victims of German bombing, just as were Polish, Dutch, French, etc. civilians.

[@lorddaver3019]

@Sebastian Maximilian STILL you don't understand! I'm asking you about innocent civilians killed by the Luftwaffe. Tyler Kent is irrelevant to that question. And he has nothing whatever to do with Polish or Dutch or French civilian deaths. Responsibility for those lies directly with Hitler.

[@tamaramartin3153]

I'm first taking home the gold today

[@sirbasilflapjack671]

Well done to you, madam. You have my utmost respect for being the first to comment on this latest execution video. It is most certainly party time. Cake and lemonade on the menu, methinks!

[@828enigma6]

Don't spend it all in one place.

[@hooper4581]

Outstanding ! 👏👏 Your hard work has paid off !

[@lordmichaelharris1710]

Stop with so many adverts your greed not our enjoyment

[@mrhaltstop2294]

These airmen have been lynched by civilians whose families or relatives had probably been killed by the bombings.. The victorious have decided it was a war crime,they have perpetrated them as well

[@dpt6849]

Very strange indeed. Firebombing your house and expecting thank you. Very strange the people want to smash them. The judges of the tribunal should be executed as well. Because laws are based on rationality. Any judge who thinks 'thank you' is the right response when someone firebombs your house, is obviously insane and not suited to be a judge. All verdicts from those judges therefore are illegal and thus criminal. So those judges should be hanged as well.

[@kurzeful]

I agree with you. I reckon they would have done the same too.

[@jgunther3398]

law is to protect the powers that be, not give justice. it's just more evident here

[@Ultimaton100]

Except none of that ever happened, so…

[@der.kdf.brother]

I would have done the same no matter German, American, Brits...

[@josephkane825]

Imaginarycrimes

[@paulhiggins6175]

Scared and angry that’s a shame for them what about all the people their soldiers killed in the same way. if it was me I would of flattered the whole town because they never tried to stop their government nor stop tax money so their liable

[@IK-so2bm]

What happened to the rest of the killers of the American airmen? Did they live a long happy life?

[@WillyEckaslike]

What happened to the rest of the killers of all those defenseless Ger man civilians? Did they live a long happy life?

[@TheWolfsnack]

@@WillyEckaslike True.....allied bombing raids on civilian targets like Dresden were war crimes as well. Imagine the trials for German airmen had they dropped multiple loads of incendiaries on a British city like say Birmingham?

[@brianallsopp69]

Didn't something similar happen in Lambeth in 1940 but was hushed up a bit quick ?

[@davidshi6861]

Deliberately targeting civilians is a war crime too, both sides did it, but that doesn't make it right. This is a typical case of victor's justice.

[@ctiley2212]

The U.S. Airforce and the word precision cannot ever be used truthfully in the same sentence.

[@andrewturchan6065]

Absolutely !!!!! US murdered innocent German folks ....

[@boxwoodgreen]

@@andrewturchan6065 The adult innocents in Germany were abysmally few. The vast majority yelled "Heil !" in the streets for decade before the war. And gave wan smiles when Jewish neighbours were arrested. And then again, when a friend said their disabled daughter had died unexpectedly in hospital, and all they received was a coffee can of ashes. Once more when a soldier on leave whispered of the mass shootings of Jews into trenches he'd seen in the east. Ya, tell us more about the "innocent German folks".

[@theman8149]

True

[@boxwoodgreen]

My late dad ( A WW2 Canadian Captain ) quipped, a common joke in the field was "When the Germans bombed we ducked, when the RAF bombed the Germans ducked, When the Yanks bombed everybody ducked".

[@delby66]

@@andrewturchan6065 The Germans murdered innocent British folk. Tit for tat? C'mon it's war for gods sake.

[@dp-sr1fd]

A murderous mob is a beast , you cannot try a beast.

[@ilganis]

I would do the same.. what the german civilians did...also today..

[@TheBucketSkill]

I mean fair, but you'd also hang when the occupying army finds out what you did to there men.

[@anonymoususer5381]

Skip ad to 2:06

[@peterkin1010]

Justice for the victors you mean.

[@boxwoodgreen]

In this case the western victors were the most good amongst the most evil.

[@TheBucketSkill]

You're damn right LMAO! I love how you say this like its some sort of gotcha, but it's what those dumb townsmen should've thought about before they acted a fool. Hmmmm y'know, were less than a year from losing total war perhaps I should play nice so the occupying army who was total free reign over me in the future will not mistreat us! Oops! Rope!

[@ursus9104]

The victors write the story. Today, the indiscriminate bombing of civilians in Germany, Italy and Japan in WW2 would have been classified as war crimes.

[@Lesterlock99]

Don’t start wars of aggression perhaps and take mass murder to an industrial scale?

[@cordongrouch9323]

Don't forget the indiscriminate bombing of Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.

[@bradhanley8368]

@@cordongrouch9323 that's war. No one is innocent. The chicoms hide every when. They had to be taken out.

[@mikejames663]

Bombing those countries saved lives, you never mentioned, the UK.

[@ursus9104]

@@mikejames663 Take life to save life? Nah, Jesus will never accept that mathematics.

[@robertwguthrie3935]

Sadly General Sherman was right. War is hell.

[@StevenCodeBlack]

One would think that the Police or Military Authorities would try to get a civilian crowd or mob under control in the presence of an enemy who was shot down over their territory. Honestly I wouldn't put it past the Gestapo or SS to allow the civilians to just tear into the downed allies for them. In their minds, I bet they probably would've looked at what those German Citizens did as having done the Gestapo favor. The Gestapo was still technically the Nazi police and as police, even if Nazis, the responsibility for maintaining civic order falls on them. Also whatever happened to the 2 German Soldiers escorting the allied prisoners? Why couldn't they and wouldn't they have intervened? Of course today if this was here in the states and US MPs and Local and Federal Law Enforcement stood back and did nothing and just allowed a mob of Angry Americans to just tear into an Al Qaeda terrorist shot down over our territory, they'd probably all be held at fault for not doing anything to stop the crowd and possibly stripped of rank and or court martialed for their inactions. This makes me wonder though, during the Nuremberg trials were there any German Gestapo or Regular Army or other Governmental Authorities who had jurisdiction over the Russelheim region charged for not doing anything to keep order and for allowing that to happen?

[@markbarber7839]

massacre not is the moral of the story

[@longyx321]

There we're many from RAF also murdered by Germams

[@WillyEckaslike]

how many million G civilians did the allies murder from the sky?

[@numeitor7075]

@@WillyEckaslike Like 4- 600k in 4 years… 2-3 times LESS deadly than COVID in the States 😂

[@WillyEckaslike]

@@numeitor7075 i think u will find thats the allied version of events.....Dresden killed up to 120k

[@numeitor7075]

@@WillyEckaslike 120,000 would be 20% more than the 100,000 killed when America bombed LITERAL WOODEN HUTS in Tokyo. I think YOU will find that’s physically impossible! The CITY OF DRESDEN ITSELF determined a figure of 25,000 - 30,000 in Spring 1945, then confirmed 25,000 in 2010 after literal decades of study. 😂

[@WillyEckaslike]

@@numeitor7075 as for the figure of 25k well that is never going to be the truth because if the real figure came out it would make the allies look bad ..history is a set of l eyes agreed upon..Napol eon

[@jsgdk]

I have mixed feelings on this, drop bombs that kill and strike fear into the heart of civilians, get shot down and captured by civilians, civilians angry and want revenge? [Suprised Pikachu Face]

[@boxwoodgreen]

You shouldn't have mixed feelings. Virtually every adult in the cities of Germany stood in the streets, and yelled "Heil !" on cue for over a decade before WW2. Resistance of Germans to the nazi regime was quite rare. The German populace revelled in the early conquests of Europe, knowing that tens of thousands of foreign soldiers, and innocent civilians had been ruthlessly killed in their invasions. This bombing was two years after the peak of the Operation Reinhard Holocaust killings. By then likely over five million. No German adult could claim they had not heard the rumours of the mass killings of disabled people (300K German adults and children gassed) from their own neighborhoods, and the millions of Jews, and others in the East. The perpetrators came home on leave and talked. And not just talked they bragged. It was State policy, and an open secret. The German population brought the judgements onto themselves with their knowing, enthusiastic embrace of evil.

[@spencer9819]

factorieeeeeeeeeeeees 00:18

[@Pugiron]

It's always sad to learn about how many in the Axis survived the war.

[@BernardoIbarraJr]

Good that's what the supermen deserve they start a war lose and punk out

[@VagoniusThicket]

Ok Xbox boy. Read some history about what caused WW1 which caused WW2 . Then back to the basement homes !

[@TheWolfsnack]

Justice....well...for the victor.....unlike the odd German airman in the UK who wound up on the end of a pitchfork.....

[@krisushi1]

What would you have done if you found a German hiding on your property in a barn whilst your family was inside? Help him to escape? I think most would use a pitch fork if brutally honest with themselves.

[@muskokamike127]

Any evidence of this? All of the cases I've heard of the german airmen were turned over to the local police and military.

[@vincewhite5087]

The civilians in town, were killed innocent too.

[@dovidell]

For those looking for justice after an act of mass killing , I'd like to point out the case of the MV Wilhelm Gustloff , where a German cruise ship , converted to an ARMED military transport ship, was sunk on 30 January 1945 by Soviet submarine S-13 in the Baltic Sea while evacuating German civilian refugees from East Prussia, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland and Estonia and military personnel from Gotenhafen (Gdynia) . By one estimate, 9,400 people died, which makes it the largest loss of life in a single ship sinking in history. source wiki . Considering what happened , the captain of the Russian sub got off quite lightly

[@krisushi1]

As you have stated in capital letters, the military transport ship was "ARMED". It also was transporting military personnel. Clearly these civilians were used as human shields to protect the military and the ship. Of course the Russians are going to sink an ARMED military transport ship! How are they to know that the Germans would fill it with civilians? This was a justified sinking of an ARMED military ship and nothing more. Only the Germans who used the civilians are to blame for their deaths.

[@stevenvandemsky7290]

@@krisushi1 The civilians were used as human shields?!? That‘s the most hilarious comment on this issue ever 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@krisushi1]

@@stevenvandemsky7290 Have you not ever heard of the term 'Human Shields'? It occurs all the time. Why else would the German military be assisting citizens? They weren't exactly big on helping anyone except for themselves. Why you could possibly think that it's hilarious for human shields to be used at anytime can only mean that you need some serious psychological help!

[@stevenvandemsky7290]

@@krisushi1 Don’t phantasize and get your facts straight: „MV Wilhelm Gustloff was a German armed military transport ship which was sunk on 30 January 1945 by Soviet submarine S-13 in the Baltic Sea while evacuating German civilian refugees from East Prussia, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland and Estonia and military personnel from Gotenhafen (Gdynia) as the Red Army advanced. According to one source, the ship was carrying Lithuanian, Latvian and Polish refugee children. By one estimate, 9,400 people died, which makes it the largest loss of life in a single ship sinking in history. Against the advice of the military commander, Lieutenant Commander Wilhelm Zahn, a submariner who argued for a course in shallow waters close to shore and without lights, Wilhelm Gustloff's captain, Friedrich Petersen, decided to head for deep water which was known to have been cleared of mines. As Wilhelm Gustloff had been fitted with anti-aircraft guns, and the Germans did not mark her as a hospital ship, no notification of her operating in a hospital capacity had been given and, as she was transporting military personnel, she did not have any protection as a hospital ship under international accords.“ (en.wikipedia.org)

[@krisushi1]

@@stevenvandemsky7290 Honestly, how old are you? Read my comment again and the only difference between what I stated and you is the vile use of civilians upon an armed vessel. Only the Germans are to blame for their loss of any lives.

[@grofaz81]

Were any of the English people prosecuted due to beating up German pilots paraschuted to the ground? No further questions.

[@ozdavemcgee2079]

TBH we could try any Airforce for warcrimes right now fir pick any war after WW2

[@davidhoward437]

So you think the Nazi murderers were the good guys? What the hell is wrong with you?

[@SuperNevile]

Why after WW2? There were Zeppelin raids against civilians in London during WW1, and Guernica was in 1937. For balance, the British used aircraft to attack Iraqi villages in 1920, with "success". Arthur Harris served in Iraq and because of this, took the view that Germany could be "subdued" by aerial bombing.

[@darrellenglish2704]

It's not BRUTAL. It's JUSTICE

[@vtmuseum]

I don't get the title. Is the massacre brutal or the execution of the civilians? Why do you always put "brutal" or "justified" execution in your titles? Every execution is brutal and (talking from a humanistic point of view) unjustified.

[@jsgdk]

Some executions are definately justified even thru a humanist lens, it can certainly be unopposed atleast, capital punishment as an institution can never be acceptable from a humanist point of view tho.

[@voldeficient]

Armin , I have noticed that to, and sometimes irritates the hell out of me and always in CAPITALS maybe its wisser to choose Impartial words for his Titles !!

[@jolandijansevanrensburg8046]

@@voldeficient Wisser? The word you are looking for is WISER. Wisser is a windscreen wiper.

[@stevenvandemsky7290]

It‘s just his anti German agenda: Every execution of a German is justified, while every execution done by the Germans is brutal 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@George-pl7dw]

Funny how the winners walked away scot-free for planning fire bombing on civilian targets killing 100s of thousands , while the loser gets hung for execution a handful of those bombers.

[@davidbracknell4707]

V

[@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010]

That's not justice, they fecked up the town. Massacre my arse.

[@frast9201]

Silver

[@sherifhanafi9790]

What about the German pows executed by the Allies after dday?

[@boxwoodgreen]

You are floating a red herring here. 156 Canadians captured by Germans were executed in the first month of the Normandy invasion. Including several from my late father's regiment. Primarily by S.S. troops of the 1st, 2nd, and 12th S.S. Divisions. The same happened to British, and U.S. troops. Since the U.S. troops were further to the west, it is likely the orders, or tacit permissions came from higher S.S. than just Divisional. Once those massacres became widely known, as the Abbe Ardennes massacre certainly was (20 Canadian POW's by the 12th S.S. Hitler Youth Div on June 7th D+1 ) certainly was ... reprisals at the field level would not be acceptable, but also not surprising. Are there any other defences of S.S. troops you'd like to offer ?

[@dovidell]

the 12th SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend was a particularly savage unit - brainwashed kids bought up on a diet of hate and anti-Semitism , showed no mercy at all towards allied POW's and others - quote " The division committed several war crimes while en route to and during the early battles in Normandy, including the Ascq and Ardenne Abbey massacres." source - wiki

[@sherifhanafi9790]

@@dovidell kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKqaqqiagbWqm68

[@boxwoodgreen]

@@sherifhanafi9790 Cherry picking a few videos does not make you a historian. Context is critical here. There is a very great difference between singular unconnected reprisal actions at the unit level, and widespread, habitual, actions that were well known, and tacitly approved at Hohere S.S. Command levels. The Waffen S.S. Armoured divisions that fought in Normandy were "blooded" in the East for two years. Where ALL of them were peripherally involved with the Aktion Reinhard mass murders of the Holocaust. They were invited in by the Einzatzgruppen for recreational mass murder of Jews and other civilian. They were the "Stars" of the no quarters battles with the Soviets. The 12th relatively new S.S. Hitler Youth Division was seeded with Officers and non-commissioned unit leaders taken from those blooded in evil S.S. Divisions. Again, I invite you to explain your ideological attempt to place an "equal sign" ( = ) between green Allied troops in Normandy, and the S.S. ?

[@sherifhanafi9790]

@@boxwoodgreen History is written by the victors. “Justice” is also a spoil. Adieu.

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

100% justified execution for this war crime.

[@numeitor7075]

Not at all. Cringe.

[@TheWolfsnack]

For dropping the bombs on civilians?

[@numeitor7075]

@@TheWolfsnack For torturing & executing enemy combatants.

[@falconward6757]

Blatant commercial - big thumbs down!

[@lovechild6988]

Tell us the story! Didn't tune in for a commercial.😤💩

[@stevefox8605]

Shouldn't have been prosecuted imho, if the enemy had been shot down over my heavily bombed town I'd be part of the mob. Not justified executions. Interesting story, thank you for your research and production, keep 'em coming 👍🏻👍🏻

[@petedraper5185]

No doubt these murderers cheered Hitler after his airforce had intentionally bombed Polish, Dutch and British towns and cities. They gave no thought to the civilians in those countries. They deserved their fate.

[@williamegler8771]

Germany was a signatory of the Geneva convention. It's government had the responsibility to care for and protect prisoners of war. The civilians that beat and shot prisoners of war are guilty of murder and after their trial and conviction they deserved to have their sentence carried out.

[@henkdam8593]

@@petedraper5185 allied bomber crews are also war criminals

[@jsgdk]

@@henkdam8593 In some cases definately.

[@stevenvandemsky7290]

@@williamegler8771 Great Britain and the USA had also signed the Geneva Convention but it didn’t stop them from aerial bombings on civilians

[@twinturbo8304]

So sorry everyone but bombing civilians is just as evil. The allies bombed every large German city and Japanese city. Yes they might've done it to us , And yes they started the war, and maybe even killing all of the children and women and old people might've had a slight impact on the outcome but not much

[@andysherwell1252]

An awesome video, as is to be expected, but please stop saying "the lever was pulled". Research biographies by hangmen, levers were pushed. Not that it makes any difference to the person being dropped.

[@samhall3821]

Thing is, the laws of war get bitchy about amateurs killing the professionals. Partisans and other "armed non-combatants" can be subject to summary execution. Uniformed members of armed forces have a protected status when taken as P O Ws.

[@pedropedro58er]

Not when Eisenhower changes POWs to disarmed enemy combatants.

[@WillyEckaslike]

field manuals of the British and American Army both authorized the seizure of hostages as a legitimate defense against partisan and guerrilla activity, including the execution of the hostages in reprisal for the attacks (the British manual did not specify killing the hostages, but the US Army Field Manual Rule of Land Warfare did)

[@dovidell]

WRONG !!! - The Commando Order (German: Kommandobefehl) was issued by the OKW, the high command of the German armed forces, on 18 October 1942. This order stated that all Allied commandos encountered in Europe and Africa should be killed immediately without trial, even if in proper uniforms or if they attempted to surrender.- SOURCE -wiki

[@WillyEckaslike]

@@dovidell SOURCE -wiki....FFS..and we know who owns that dont we...nice try

[@ronluckenbach9492]

I know this may sound Juvenile…but ‘They started it!’ talkin’ ‘bout the Snotzis here.

[@jbk19xx57]

Karma……………………………..

[@mhpjii]

It appears to me that The Untold Past takes its scripts (for this and every one its videos) directly, completely, and unattributed from Wikipedia.

[@arrow1414]

Wam! Bam! Thank you Mame! 😐

[@denysmkhize2379]

Hmm...no such justice for the Wereth 11, though. Leaves me still wondering why African-Americans elected to serve in WW2 and thereafter. I certainly would not have.

[@FrLawRE]

2:43/2:45 "The United States Army Airforce" relied on precision bombing.." That's bs. The USAAF did carpet bombing a technique that often caused huge amounts of civilian deaths. In Dresden for example an estimated 22,700 to 25,000 people were killed.The punishing, three-day Allied bombing attack on Dresden from February 13 to 15 in the final months of World War II became among the most controversial Allied actions of the war. ... it was done in an effort to force a surrender. Dr Gregory Stanton, a scholar specialising in genocide, has classified the Dresden bombing as a war crime

[@numeitor7075]

Maybe, but helluva lot better than the Soviets pushing THROUGH the city, like they were doing in Breslau & Budapest… Ironically, Budapest surrendered and Breslau was first attacked on the VERY SAME DAY as that Dresden raid: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Budapest en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Breslau

[@robertbruce7686]

This is why we love the ex axis powers soooo much. Scum

[@WillyEckaslike]

as Patton said we fought the wrong enemy and they killed him for saying it

[@dovidell]

so explain how the Italians had units that fought alongside the (other ) allies ( not axis) shortly after D Day !!!

[@mrgreen1888]

So you hate the soviets as well they were part of the axis powers Or have you forgotten those scumbags remember 🇵🇱 Poland,Finland the Baltic state’s they’ll beg to differ.