Top 10 Types of Watches To Avoid - Don't Buy A Watch Until You've Seen This!

In today's video I share the top 10 types of watches to approach with caution, in order to minimize the risk of wasting your money. The following ten are not in order of importance but for reference only. Please feel free to share the watches you avoid buying in the comments below.
10. Replica or counterfeit watches. To find out more, watch this video:
• Watch Me Destroy A Rol...
9. Do it yourself modding projects before knowing what you're getting yourself into. For more information, checkout the following video:
• Why I Bought Another T...
8. The Indian frankenwatch market
7. The grey market
6. High end watches you cannot afford to service
5. In-house complications or movements that you can not service or repair
4. Fashion watches. To learn affordable superior alternatives, check out the following video:
• Before You Buy A Danie...
3.Vintage watches that will cost more than you are willing to pay to repair or service. Check out my recent video for a more in-depth look at this subject:
• Don't Buy A Chronograp...
2. Luxury smartwatches in precious metals
1. Converted pocket watches
To watch the video I mentioned on the 10 questions you MUST ask when buying a used or vintage watch, click here:
• Watch Buyer's Guide Pa...
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[@Nefus1988]

Another type of watch to avoid: a watch so expensive you are afraid of using it

[@Leptospirosi]

Agreed, unless it's a unique timepiece and you keep it safe as a work of art. Anything that can be purchased freely is just "an instrument" made for being used and menat to be.

[@dustyblack5048]

pretty safe strapped on my wrist. i had to get over scratches, now i just call it "character". although i'll insist on a quality glass.

[@echospage]

I wear an AP offshore nearly everyday.

[@chrisgray3195]

This is so true. Just like an expensive car that your afraid to take out of the garage.

[@lecorsaire2283]

You’re right. However this all depends on one’s financial situation. For some, a Submariner is something that they would only wear for special occasions. For others it’s a daily beater. Some people would never swim with a Royal Oak or Nautilus. To others they’re rather “cheap” watches.

[@lillisp9353]

A man wearing two watches has a lot of time on his hands

[@christosnsk]

😂😂😂

[@nakazatotakeshi4286]

Ba dum tsss

[@Hallyug]

Nice

[@HybridSpektar]

Im stealing this. And you can't stop me

[@daffidavit]

I have a Sundial watch with nightlights.

[@007nikster2]

You look like a Bond villain in this video

[@mandarin1257]

Lol true

[@sebastianshaw210]

More like a sidekick

[@joseangelfelix3572]

007nikster2 hahah sad

[@lawrencetendler2342]

Casio Casino Royale .

[@trevillyan5515]

That SAS sweater tho

[@DavidWilliams-vo1wp]

An old man told me once that “Only two types of people open a watch. A watchmaker and a fool.”

[@richardbently7236]

Lol, sounds like your dad opened a watch once.

[@troubauk]

Fuck around : find out

[@leecox1513]

AGREE! Bought a Timex Indiglo Expedition with a full-coverage metal back. Need to change the battery, and somehow managed to pry the metal back off. Changed the battery with no problem, but could NOT replace the backing because it takes a special Press gizmo to push the backing back into place. BAD design, and even though I have had good luck with the accuracy of Timex products, I will be very careful when purchasing another Timex watch-----taking special care not to purchase one unless it is kept in place with screws that can be removed with the small screwdrivers used to adjust eyeglasses. Costco carries them.

[@rohanbansal2324]

“Beautiful view of Manhattan” *shows something that looks like a Soviet-era town*

[@oneagencydarrenmusgrave725]

haha ! well said...

[@mikerotch6068]

😂 thats Manhattan for you

[@lkkjhtemmexv1838]

it doesnt look manattan , looks suisse.or a nearby country..

[@MrPrush-ji4gs]

Rohan Bansal do you know manhattan price per square foot ? It’s a nice view for manhattan 😂

[@vladimirmeshchankin7090]

Have you ever been to Detroit? It's you, Rohan, living in a world of shit. We lived in the future.

[@dandcc9192]

Me: "What's your age?" Him: "I don't know, between 19 and 72"

[@duramax78]

He’s 37

[@uuuultra]

Hahahahahahaha 😂😂😂

[@uuuultra]

Best comment ever

[@lorenzomedina6220]

He is an immortal (😢🤣😄).

[@cDerb156]

I said this the other day! He should be the mascot of r/13or30

[@MrMayTyson]

So does this Guy look like a young Willem Dafoe or what?

[@ka9vmp]

Yes. He kind of does.

[@thisbevibhor]

Christen walken too

[@tittyblast1978]

This fella is much better looking .

[@tourbillon13]

@@tittyblast1978 Hahaha love your name!!! 😂 🤣 😂 Christopher Walken top boy 👌Wonder if he's into time-pieces too and what he'd go for 🤔 Yes I know, too much time on my hands... Perhaps should take one or two off phnar phnar!!!

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

Willem Dafoe looks like an old him.

[@ralphramirez1979]

I have a 30yr old Rolex submariner. I wear it everyday I just like the look. I guess its bullet proof lol

[@knotknown847]

fake replica watches and gilt jewellrey in the safe for when you get a home invasion, real stuff behind the cat food in the pantry

[@jijoious]

Gosh 🤫 now I just need to find another place to stash it lol

[@roelreijers]

Thats where the patek lies for sure!

[@freerider8737]

Safe inside a safe always works

[@iacobescuionut2459]

I bought a watch for 10 euros 2 years ago . It's skeleton mechanical watch and still works fine. Perfect on time. It's a fake but i love it.

[@jtec99]

Why the hell would you own a cat?

[@grinder2755]

11) Mechanical watches for your wife. (Unless your hobby is setting the time and date on watches)

[@ronch550]

Grinder oh I can so relate to this.

It should also handle water and dirt. She loves to water test watches and she have green fingers.

[@hamzaa.8082]

LOL

[@abracadabra485]

I purchased a watch winder for her automatic. Boom!

[@gabber88ful]

Or work and it wind itself up

[@pgzzz]

More importantly avoid wearing a watch on each arm.

[@louispower7822]

Well, I'd wear them on the wrist!!! :)

[@bequanis]

So two on one, then?

[@keldonmcfarland2969]

But what if one of them are one of those watch calculators from the 80s?

[@MrWizardjr9]

wear one on each arm and on each ankle

[@rangersmith4652]

Never buy a watch that doesn't make you feel good when you see it on your wrist.

[@arbataxiansoul]

"I would never belittle somebody for their watch, it's just ungentlemanly" basta, mi hai conquistato. Subscribe immediato! 🙂

[@patrickspencer4777]

I compliment the watch just the fact that they have one on

[@federicoserafin9916]

Quest’uomo è un signore :)

[@Mikey-ym6ok]

Unless they’re wearing a smart/Apple Watch

[@Juan0003]

I didn't know Willem Dafoe was that much into watches! ;)

[@redbishop71]

Lol

[@HH-xj8nh]

And I didn't know Christopher Walken was that into watches 50 years ago.

[@samray3461]

Will the apple watch be repairable in even 4 years? No. A waste of resources

[@12012channel]

If it was repairable, would it even be worth it? A smart watch is like a phone eventually the hardware can not support the new software with up to date security features and now you are getting into vulnerabilities like malware infection and possibly getting hit with things like identity theft.

[@JimzAuto]

Probably repairable. Solid state devices do not wear out.

[@FierceO]

JimzAuto false. There are things such as soft errors and hard errors. Further the transistors denature over time. There is also electromigration.

[@marinotoko]

Better buy a g-shock with heart rate monitor. The price is just a little bit expensive than an apple watch. But hey, a g-shock guarantees worth of money. At least can last many years without worrying the battery

[@PWCDN]

People who buy Apple watch will buy a new one in 4 years to get a useless new feature. Apple watches are for gadget lovers, not watch lovers. They didn't buy their Apple watch for keeping time or for style/fashion. Bigger question is, I wonder how many "I don't need a watch, I have a phone" people ended up getting an Apple watch lol.

[@Racso88e]

If it looks simple it means the person performing the “simple” service is a master of the craft.

[@microusb42069]

"The Indian Frankenwatch market" *Me sweating after paying $50 a week ago for a Seiko that's coming from India*

[@The_Cptn_Louk]

I paid about 400 box forn an oris artelier and I am really curious how is it possible, what was the trap. But I bought it with a warranty from a a watch store

[@larsstougaard7097]

I would love to own a perfect Frankenwatch, that would be a unique watch, but who to trust ?? 🤔🐿

[@EnCrypticon23x]

I bought a frankenwatch Seiko from India. It was cheap enough that if it's just awful, I won't mind tossing it. I like the look of it and buying a "non-frankenwatch" of the same watch would cost like $300 while the dial is all scratched and deteriorating. Update: Watch arrived. Looks great. Works fine. Happy with my purchase.

[@fishmeister2625]

I bought a £13 Ricoh watch (including postage) from an Indian seller last week. Honestly, if it runs fine I'll be happy with it, I don't mind if it's not all original, I just like the look of it and I'm not going to find one like it in a hurry (or even at all). If it doesn't work, it's no big loss! Shame it's going to take almost six weeks to arrive 🙄

[@GokoMk1]

@@EnCrypticon23x from where did you buy

[@ezragonzalez8936]

I remember when my Brietling Callisto main spring broke I took it to the local watch maker they wanted $675 to repair it!! this was in 2005! then I found this Chinese guy who could barely speak English and he did the work including the parts for $90!! needles to say became friends with him since have taken him even a Patek Philippe pocket watch! he fixed it no problem that guy is amazing he services the watches while you wait and see him work! its truly an art form!

[@CGR9Noveno]

that Chinese guy probably swapped out your real watch for a counterfeit right under your nose bruh!

[@username4441]

@@CGR9Noveno entirely possibly if he didnt see him work on the first one. entirely possible.. especially considering the price he paid to get it fixed, 90 bucks is like fast food workers daily wage lol. not sure how he thought that was a good idea to do.

[@jijoious]

was he fixed it using authentic after market parts or he used parts that are from similar calibre / module like an ETA movement ?

[@dekyamun6541]

R/boneappletea (its needless to say)

[@tubeDB1]

Just curious, was it in Boston? I think i go to the same guy

[@andyt9132]

" I've been expecting you, agent 007 "

[@keldonmcfarland2969]

Here is the "Austin Powers IV: Watch Maker, the Ultimate Time Master" version: (enjoy) Watch Maker: "I've been expecting you, Powers! ...but first check out my latest Patek Philippe Uber Ultra Grand Complications!! It comes complete a standard tachymeter, tourbillon, and a special repeater that chimes on leap year; a perpetual calendar, day, date, and month; a moon phase, of course, and also the retrogrades of Mercury and Mars, it has TWO GMT hands, one for each meridian-- both Prime and International Date Line--and a 24 hour and double 12 hour fully rotating bezel, and looks quite exceptional...exquisite...I get emotional just thinking about it. There's even a special setting for when I'm in those awful time 30 & 45 minute time zones---WHY DO THEY DO THAT?? ...wait, where was I?"

[@larsstougaard7097]

Where is blofeld ??🧐

[@matthewj4066]

@@keldonmcfarland2969 shut up

[@keldonmcfarland2969]

@@matthewj4066 Don't be an asshole

[@mattcocky8956]

Thank you sir. In 1997 I was in the market to spend a decent chunk of change on s watch for my dad and one for me to scuba dive in. I sold a car and had $3,000 to spend. We shopped for a few watches that were Grey market, a 1960s Omega, and a few that were frankly too high end for fellas like us. My dad saw a Wenger Swiss Army for a little over $100 I think and I found an entry level Citizen (non eco drive,) for $225. My dad still wears that watch and he worked as a machinist. I made 500 or so dives with the Citizen and still wear it as well. Great video and you are doing a tremendous service for folks. I just got lucky and made the right choice but I would have loved to see your video back then. Cheers from Mississippi.

[@RonWylie-gk5lc]

In the end, I had to give up collecting watches, I just didnt have the time lol

[@emre.keser03]

Ron Wylie BADUM TSSS

[@gdfggggg]

Not bad, not bad

[@f1playlist308]

Jesus christ

[@mapledoodle5516]

Laughing at your own joke is a terrible idea.

[@thisispw]

Dont buy a watch you cannot afford!

[@andrewbarclay235]

To late 😎

[@CamTheKid]

@@andrewbarclay235 *too late

[@davidlara105]

I'd say: don't buy a watch that it will lead you to bankruptcy 😁

[@saltysoysauce954]

Sold my house to buy a gorillaz x gshock of ebay... damn scalpers

[@kjam87gxp]

Thank you I'm trying to justify spending on a watch

[@mdscownz]

Buy whatever watch you can afford and like the looks of. That's my rule of thumb.

[@wb3213]

And even if it's broken at least the time is correct twice a day hahaha

[@larsstougaard7097]

@@wb3213 Yes ha ha old joke, see you on TicTok😋

[@narcleptik]

@@wb3213 😂😂

[@narcleptik]

@@larsstougaard7097 gay

[@jaewhite2462]

This channel is more about investment level watches

[@PanaSonyc]

Great video! You said everything important things about when buying a watch! I'm not a collector, I just have about 3-4, but when buying a watch I really do a lot of research what fits most to me what to avoid. Really great video! You get my like

[@Germartz83]

Willem Dafoe talking about watches 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@user-lm4fj2wi4z]

🤣

[@mrban1419]

Ehhh not really hair and jaw maybe about it

[@Pulsonar]

Really? He looks nothing like Willem Dafoe, to me he looks like a chav from some troubled council estate in England who made good.

[@dancharles6009]

I swear he tried to sell me a used car the other day

[@Pulsonar]

@@dancharles6009 😂

[@deanshort9011]

Thank you for the caliber of your presentation! I'm a layman in terms of watches but your video gave me very clear advice that was easy to understand and offers the benefit of your experience in this realm. Excellent pointers!

[@EvilDRporkchops]

Before watching this: Too late After watching this: Need another watch.

[@sinesaii]

I have modded a few watches, and so long as you find a clean space and have the right tools, it is fine. The hand pusher-on tool thingy is the most important (hands are fragile). The best part is that you can regulate the watch and have a Seiko NH35 run to COSC standards. Just buy the tools, get two of everything (three winding stems), and learn while doing. The best part is that you can make extra watches with your spare parts, not to mention swap out Seiko movements to avoid paying for a service.

[@battlight3476]

Well said, isn't this how Horology starts potentially?. Must be some cases out there.. Major watches for example?..

[@xander4346]

Amazing video. No.4 reminds me a hilarious saying: “You never actually own a daniel wellington. You merely look after it for the trash bin.” Rude but kind of true.

[@keldonmcfarland2969]

😳

[@jewblin5305]

I know a person who intentionally bought a counterfeit DW because „the genuine is so expensive but they are so beautiful I have to own one, especially I like their fancy straps”. If only they knew DW straps are ordinary NATO straps and can be mounted on almost any watch. I couldn’t stop laughing. I thought it was a joke but the person was dead serious 😂🤣

[@williamwerr1500]

Almost got a daniel wellington as my first watch Thankfully i dodged a bullet and ended up with seiko presage

[@lordbountifulitsme7919]

My Indian Oris worked fine for 10 Days 🎬

[@fauxchung3189]

Gary Sharples It must’ve been a good one.

[@Heretic306]

That's exactly how many days I got out of my Indian Citizen Automatic. Never again!

[@trasava1314]

Gary Sharples it's works only 10monts that bad watch

[@OutdoorsIQ]

😂

[@otomackena7610]

what did you expect with a Franken?

[@Wolfie_Rankin]

In 1986 I bought a Seiko Moon Phase Watch, and I still wear it every day and adore it. I would cry tears of blood if I ever lost it. It looks perfect on my arm, it's fairly small and quite flat. I barely feel it while I'm wearing it.I've tried other watches but nothing has beaten old faithful. Truly the best item I've ever bought. I think I paid about $250au for it.

[@a1drake69]

Got a picture

[@ForneverstarOfficial]

I got a gold Seiko quartz, and a old Seiko world timer and they've both been in my family for over 20+ years with no issues after upkeep, truly a fantastic brand

[@stevenjohnson4283]

You sound like a real sad sack over a watch. How many watches did I own as a kid and teen in the 1980's, about three. One was a calculator watch, a Seiko of some sort and a Citizen analog/digital. They're been and gone. I own two watches I bought years ago and can't be bothered wearing them because no one wears watches, we all get the time from our phones.

[@cherylb5391]

Enjoyed your video. I had a most unpleasant experience with a Rolex knock-off. My husband bought it for me as a joke when he was on a business trip to Hong Kong. He presented it to me when he got home and I decided to wear it that day. By early evening, the watch had stopped working. One of the little studs glued on as hour markers came loose and got tangled in the hands. The bad news is I inadvertently left my husband waiting for me for more than an hour at the concert we were to attend that night. The good news? This time being late wasn't my fault! The useful alibi aside, the fake Rolex wasn't even worth the @ $20 my husband paid for it.

[@someonefromthenetherlands]

Well I will WATCH out for these 😜 I have no friends

[@BigAirr.]

Me too

[@polymerasiecondens6857]

@@BigAirr. same

[@guineapigwarriors2453]

@someone from the netherlands get some friends then dude

[@aidan._.5794]

😂 that made my day

[@Pete-z6e]

someone from the Netherlands ,I’m not surprised!

[@solosautos1]

Basically, buy a Seiko and be happy!

[@theurbangentry]

Hear hear! Well said, Thank you, Best regards, TGV

[@DigiteAquiONomeDoCanal]

nah citizen is cheaper and accurate and you won't need to open the screwback case for at least 10yrs.

[@12012channel]

@@DigiteAquiONomeDoCanal Doesn't that only apply to Eco-Drive watches and not all Citizens are Eco-Drive. Cheaper ones are just quartz. I am looking into buying a watch right now. I have looked at online shops from big to small, mom and pop shops, mall and department stores and pretty much any authorized dealer I can find. The Seiko 5s have been a lot cheaper than the Eco-drives and in most cases even the regular Citizen quartz.

[@RobertsIslandLivingAdventures]

I’ve been wearing Seiko for 2 years now, haven’t had to wind it since, and perfectly accurate.

[@DeadEyeRabbit]

12012channel my seiko 5 just “feels” cheaper than my citizens

[@nike3web]

My personal number one: wearing two watches at the same time.

[@rebeloftheeast]

I *strongly* agree with number 2. Those who genuinely value watches like myself don't like the idea of smart watches. They're not reliable at all. They need charge and are more high maintenance than average watches due to being a very sensitive little machine. If there's no charge and internet you'll be just wearing a screen LOL I always buy things thinking of the most scariest survival scenarios in my head. Call me old fashioned, but I still love traditional watches. I want my watch to only show me the correct time, not stalk me. Smart watches are made to keep an eye on you. It's designed to control your mind. Overtime people are gonna become more and more stupid using these gadgets! Plus the radiations from smartphones are harmful enough, you don't need more cancer causing gadgets that's harmful for your health. Though I am of this generation I don't like smart watches. Apple can't even run their phones properly for 5 years straight, I can't imagine their watches 5 years down the line! Apple slows down all their devices when new ones come out to push customers into buying their new products. Apple heavily manipulates their customers. I know this because I've used Apple since iPods first came out LOL not worth it. I'd put smart watches in the "fast fashion" category.

[@Janellabelle]

And they just don't look as...classy as a real watch either, imo. ⌚ I've not bought a smart watch all this time just because of looks. Plus, like you said, my phone is enough of an invasion of privacy as it is. I don't need another miniature one strapped to my wrist all day and night. Lol

[@ameyajoshi742]

I bought a couple of Smartwatches- the Samsung Galaxy Watch and the Casio GShock Protrek WSDF20. But the fact that at times I’d forget to charge those Watches made me appreciate my Gravitymaster Tough Solar Casio GShock.

[@jaimemedina3351]

Just dipping my wrist into the world of watch collecting and I have to say your content has been very helpful indeed! Great presentation; friendly casual exposition. Nicely done. New subscriber!

[@horselips]

Guns … fountain pens … watches … and now I'm headed for the next Mecum classic car auction … God help me!

[@joshuaandrosebartley896]

horselips haha sounds expensive lol!!! I love watching there auction on tv. I’ve seen some beautiful rides go across!!

[@itzpayday1238]

Dang I'm already in watches and fountain pens dont throw me down further lol

[@TomJones-pv2iw]

No knives? You are missing out. And vintage Barbie dolls. LOL

[@skateboarding118]

I call this the ‘KZbin effect’

[@uuuultra]

Guns and watches I understand but fountain pens? Get the fuck out!

[@aymanalij]

Apple watches and products are not meant to last for more than a couple years.

[@JohnnyZenith]

Aymanali Jumma And yet they do last longer than that.

[@Anthropomorphic]

I'm sure it varies from product to product, but I've got an iPod that's about ten years old at this point. It's scratched up with a dented backplate (probably from the time it rattled down a small cliff and got lodged in the roots of a tree) and the battery isn't great, but it still works as new. Doesn't see much use anymore, but when it does, it's fine.

[@wooferjr169]

Lifragen Change the battery, I assume you only get like 3 hours of battery.

[@Anthropomorphic]

@@wooferjr169 Something like that. I don't really use it on the go anymore, so I'm not sure a battery change would be worth it.

[@vrsce0178]

They will if you take care of them mines last forever and don’t even get a scratch on them 😂I just use a case and screen protector that I haven’t changed since I bought it doesn’t even have a crack on it and has been dropped multiple times

[@WILLNOTCOMPLY72]

Im sorry but that whole "you cant mod watches cuz youre not a Horological artist with years of schooling and experience" is some of the most pompous watch snobbery ive ever heard! Ive created 3 of my own watches piece by piece. Case, movement, dial, hands, bracelets all bought individually and all 3 work amazingly .You dont have to be some pompous swede to mod a watch. Now if youre talking about modding high end luxury watches,thats just stupid on all levels. But just a basic auto with a NH or seagul...ect movement isnt that hard! Ive even begun being self taught at repairing movements. Its not rocket science.

[@gdfggggg]

You have elements of Christopher Walken in your tone. Could you please try and do an American New York your accent? Cheers

[@jimmypatterson9854]

" ya got me all wrong here, does your mother sow? Get her to sow this 'boom'"

[@franbel010]

Young William Dafoe

[@redbishop71]

Wilhelm

[@danielwinther3388]

@@redbishop71 *Willem. Real name William

[@rickdekard7237]

The green gobbler..

[@connoratchley2438]

I am 16 and I just bought my first real watch, it's the citizen eco drive black watch, I am in love and it's only my first watch

[@OfficialParkit]

Nice dude. My first watch was an eco drive also. I'm 17 now and have a job so I can indulge into my hobby alot more now lol😊

[@Heretic306]

Eco Drives are terrific watches. When you want to jump into mechanicals look at Seiko for a extremely nice watch at a very low price.

[@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски]

Conrats! May you enjoy it for a long time ! :)

[@bio-plasmictoad5311]

Good choice

[@royphair9676]

Let's hope the first of many

[@richfeddersen5173]

I get the fake watch thing to a point, but Rolex makes $5 bil a year, Swatch Group $8 bil. They've got plenty of cash. I live in Africa, and in my local town a lot of the locals sell Chinese fakes for $20 a pop. They rely on selling these cheapo watches to make a bit of money; not the worst quality as it happens. So you get a "Rolex" on your wrist, because you can't afford/wouldn't dream of paying 10 grand for a bloody watch! As for sweatshops, that is a whole 3rd world question - everything needs addressing in that respect.

[@jamesward9646]

I wear a Timex at work because I’m a Registered Nurse! If someone hocks a loogie on my watch .... I can throw it away! 😁👍🏼

[@denisdaly1708]

hope you are keeping safe James.

[@kylevazquez25]

Same here brother! Cheap little Casio for me.

[@gloriahodge255]

😫

[@twbrkfd1733]

Get a waterproof one! You are wasting earth's resources!

[@Insoportable7]

@@twbrkfd1733 germs u moron

[@markwolfson2023]

"In the valley of the blind, the one-eyed watch enthusiast with a high end Swiss watch is King."

[@stevenoconnell9312]

Grey market is perfectly fine up to a certain price point. I absolutely would not buy a rolex or omega speedmaster from one, due to restocking fees and other reasons you listed. But there's nothing wrong with getting cheaper watches like a Khaki Mechanical or Seiko skx007 for well below retail.

[@EGGHEADIUS]

fax

[@tengkuluqmanhakim291]

Seiko is actually a quality watch in my opinion

[@jhollie8196]

Just found your channel. Boy did you hit home on many topics and I fall into one of them. Rolex Submariner.. It cost 800 dollars for a tune up and the shop recommended a tune up every couple of years. Plus only wear it on special occasions. My brother had one also and he wore it everyday as a cop. Said you pay all that money and you never wear it. Very true.

[@juanenriquez6058]

I sincerly love your videos. I have just started as “collector” and your wisdom and sincere opinion has help a lot. Watching from México while drinking a pint!

[@masteryoda498]

Save yourself the grief, and buy yourself a reliable Japanese made watch, especially a Citizen Eco-Drive. Good video.

[@johannsimonot]

True, I got a navihawk AT, and its a great watch ;)

[@Kenerdmann]

I have been thinking about buying a Citizen Eco-Drive for a while now. I like the no-battery & no watch winder aspect of these Eco-Drive watches. Seems almost too good to be true. I’d appreciate any other insights you have and which models you’d recommend?

[@rasputinsson6038]

@@Kenerdmann Considering this comment is almost a year old now, I figured I'd chime in to your reply. I just bought my first watch, a Citizen Nighthawk Eco-Drive. Obviously I'm inexperienced but I'm super happy with it, at 42mm I was worried it would be too big, but it looks and wears great. The steel band on it is also pretty decent quality, which from what I've researched, usually isn't the case with under $200 watches. Good luck!

[@acts9531]

My youngest boy is a Navy pilot. I got him a Citizen Skyhawk AT (I think it was a ProMaster but can't remember) several years ago when his Citizen Blue Angels AT got fried by SPIE radar. Every time I've seen a picture of him anywhere around the world; at Fleet locations ashore, in Europe or aboard a carrier, he's had that watch on his wrist. He loves it. He knows how to and uses the whiz-wheel and all the features of the watch. I asked him a couple years after I gave him the watch how he liked it. His reply was "You done good, Dad. You done real good." He's moved up in rank since then and is now second in command of a stateside Naval Base and still wears that watch. Some of that is no doubt because "Dad" gave it to him but it's been a real good watch. I just bought a new Citizen Eco Drive Bryson BL5551-06L and I love it. I've had Eco Drives before that got destroyed through no fault of their own (one had a window slam shut on it because I stupidly put it in the wrong place to charge. Won't make that mistake again.) and I've been a fan of Eco Drives for quite a while. I have other watches l like to wear too, but the Bryson is still new enough to be novel and a real treat. Every time I look at the time I think about how much I love this watch. When the novelty wears off (if ever) and I wear something else now and then it will go on a light charger I got on Amazon so it will always be charged up and ready to rock.

[@12012channel]

I don't know if this is incorrect or not but is it true that an Eco-Drives cannot be serviced even by Citizen themselves. Like, if the hour hand starts acting up you just have to throw it away or live with it. I'm new to watches and saw this on some forum.

[@SENGVIN]

Can't agree with you on gray market watches. I bought omega that would cost me over $10k to buy from AD, bought it on gray market from reputable seller for $4500🤷‍♂️ ,4 years later I had to service the watch for $1000 from omega with 2 years omega warranty. So buying on gray market saved me $4500 🤷‍♂️ how is that not great deal??? Yes buying on GM means no factory warranty but who cares if you saving that much money you can have to factory service it and still save money definitely worth the risk as long as the price is right.

[@Pete-z6e]

SENGVIN , hows the weather in Mumbai?

[@alisherminhas8052]

Can i get the seller contact??

[@tingtong8781]

I entirely agree; I have bought GM watches (sometimes with the dealers stamp) and had no trouble. The only time I have had an issue with a new watch was with my Rolex Daytona which I bought from an AD in Singapore and had to have repaired when I got back to the US. I have made some incredible savings buying GM watches. In two cases I saved in excess of $10 000 which is better in my pocket than that of an AD 😁.

[@mCblue79]

How could you not appreciate that RQLEX Qyster Rerpetual. It just *screams* class

[@ZodiakAsHell]

A friend of mine bought a Tommy Hilfiger watch and i was going for an Emporio Armani. I'm getting an Orient Bambino in the same price instead. You are doing God's work with these kind of videos, sir. Thank you.

[@chusamusic1409]

I was giving a Tommy Hilfiger.. doesn't keep time, its 2 +- hours off every 6 days

[@riccardosven]

Have fun with your Bambino! It's truly a beautiful piece; i wear mine on occasions and it always draws interested looks. It's really a conversation starter :)

[@botondreti6057]

1 year ago i bought a T. Hilfiger watch for my 18 years old birthday and its work perfecty for the moment

[@thonmaker7880]

Magnificent Bastard got one for 100

[@notDonaldFagen]

Don't get watches from companies that make jeans and colognes.

[@bobcortez4427]

I don't see a problem with a reputable grey market dealer like Jomashop. I always hear, "what about the warranty?". So what about the warranty? If I am saving $3k, who cares if it needs $700 in repair work, I am still winning.

[@bullsharkreef]

Exactly. I'm not gonna pay 2~3k more just to be told how "beautiful this watch looks on me".

[@budaflash]

Is jomis shop the place hes referring to in New York?

[@rosetteslimegirl995]

@budaflash Joma is based in NewYork and grey market so i'd assume so.

[@KAM128]

I’ve personally had a bad experience with them but I wouldnt get into that as I eventually got my money back but I’ve read about people making use of their warranty and getting it back damaged and saying the watch was delivered to the dealer for repairs already damaged and having to live with bent hands or scuffs on the dial etc.

[@KAM128]

Another thing that I don’t like is that they sell old models that don’t have the latest specs and cannot truly confirm anything until you get it and the dilemma is some specs you won’t be able to know unless you open the watch or hold onto it long enough to verify but considering their return policy you won’t be able to return for refund by the time you figure out what version of the model you got.

[@Gamebred-Nightmare]

Fine, I'll stick with my Casio F91-W then!

[@DonCacomixtle]

Suddenly i remembered George McFly...

[@ignisnatura1067]

jajaj

[@El8MAGNATE]

Yuo're a young Willem Dafoe

[@davidschomer9655]

Practice up on your killing skills on open water . . Natalie Woods.

[@jamesward9646]

Uhhhhhh .... “no”

[@ronch550]

Conclusion : just stick with Seiko 5, Aragon, Orient Bambino, G-Shock and Eco-Drive. 😁

[@glebc.6314]

Thank you SO much! Especially for the advice on fashion watches. They did really get me into watches, yes. But now I see the way I should move further and what to avoid.

[@wEcUtBoTtLeS]

This dude actually wearing 2 watches LMAO

[@heminder]

Disagree about the grey market point. Every time I've purchased or came close to purchasing a mid to high end watch from an Authorised Dealer, every single time they've tried to sell me their display model with scratches and scuffs and what have you. I once requested a newly boxed one to be shipped in and they simply received another display model from another store. It's just the nature of their business that they can only keep so much stock on hand for security/finance reasons. I've purchased a number of grey market watches and all but one of them have been flawless. One had a misaligned bezel, and it went straight back to the manufacturer who fixed it free of charge under warranty.

[@theurbangentry]

You are VERY lucky sir. Thank you, enjoy your watches. Best regards, TGV

[@drknyt6131]

Gshock 4 life son.

[@BigDuke6ixx]

Grey market story. My Mrs wanted a Combat sub for herself. Nearest dealer was appointment only. Fine. But they were rude to her when she tried to make an appointment. So she got one from the grey. You can blame the watch manufacturing and dealing industries for the grey market entirely.

[@saurabhsharma4200]

50 rupees+5 minutes= mumbai special+ 5 days = burns to pee :(

[@rodneyjones1991]

Saurabh Sharma god 50?! Lol

[@jesusyeshuaelelyonelshadai6295]

Buy a digital 20 $ casio from walmart works good if you want a calculator 25$ .... Battery 10 years

[@antonios.1172]

Hi, I love your videos and I have to say that I agree with you almost at 95% with you. I would like to ask you something about the new Omega Seamaster 300M Limited Edition James Bond 50th anniversary... Do you think is worthy to pay more than 2000€ over the standard 300M?

[@samlee2562]

I've got about 10 watches including 2 ~$500 pieces and one of my faves is still a $13 Chinese automatic from Aliexpress 😅

[@Golo1949]

I agree, I have a genuine Omega Speedmaster Professional, you know the first watch on the moon I bought in 1973 now worth more than my car. But my 3 Pulsar watches keep way better time also I have 2 SKMEI that are incredible value and keep brilliant time, but I will never sell my Omega, probably my nephew will end up with it.

[@stevenc8054]

Nice. Mine were $8

[@valley_robot]

I have loads of watches , I collect because they look cool, I don’t pay over 50.00 for any watch , I have a lovely 80s Casio databank in gold , a very nice Swiss made automatic Paul smith fashion watch that I paid 1 pound for in a charity shop , I also buy ladies watches from timex and the like , I bought a speaking watch for the blind and a set of watches that were actually working walkie talkies

[@MrSteve2714740]

You sir need your own TV Show. One of the best, honest and enjoyable videos I’ve seen regarding watches. Keep em coming.

[@bohemialite6371]

He could be Dick Cavett grandson

[@sqd8r]

I love the passion and stayed for the information

[@BluTrollPro]

Speaking of watches you might want to avoid. I'd absolutely love it if you could review some Seagull watches. Particularly their Tourbilon. A $3k Chinese Tourbilon movement is something I find really interesting, but no western channels seem to have reviewed or featured it.

[@1974lakers]

Pre-Order The ERA Prometheus - The World's First Accessible Millionaire Tourbillon [Batch 3] please check it before you buy and tell me if you think its worth $999.00

[@Cookie-et9yf]

He's a wearing a wooley pooley!!! (A military issued sweater LOL)

[@len-zeplin480]

I've done the "Grey Market" thing. The watch I liked was "OUT OF STOCK" Everywhere online and Brick & Mortar. So, "Buy It Now" worked out.

[@victorrosa5323]

You could always say you're Willem Dafoe's son, You're a dead ringer!

[@presidentsad7217]

Bought my first real watch. Seiko turtle, only $130

[@krishnendupiplai2831]

India has original watches also, y don't u talk abt that???

[@bcnovi1012]

Because no one wants them?

[@michaelvitale4029]

The “warehouse” in NY has a good reputation as far as I can gather. I’ve bought several pieces from them. No probs. Half the cost, or less. I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to pay double or more because it needs to go through 3 parties before I get it. BS

[@daltonrandall9193]

Probably Jomashop

[@skzion2]

@@daltonrandall9193 Is it Jomas? I've used them when I got a crazy discount of maybe 40% on a Hamilton. Even a 20% discount on an expensive watch in the 9,000 range buys a lot of service.

[@TheGavio93]

Just found this video and your channel. Thinking about getting more into watches myself and expanding into a collection. Cheers!

[@theurbangentry]

So glad to hear, welcome aboard! Thank you, Best regards, TGV

[@watchyourtimeco1]

@@M240-q5j I collect both! Guns are WAY more fun! Luckily, I get to wear my watches and my guns everywhere I go (though, not all at once!).

[@justincase4254]

Watch, timepiece whatever. All I want is something to accurately tell time for a couple of years. Year 10 on Citizens, Just replaced the battery for the third time and ten AM is the same as the ROLEX . No $300 tuneup when it stops I’ll replace it.

[@childrolland]

Actually, The Urban Gentry reminds me Willem Dafoe but younger 😎

[@BRAINFxck10]

This guy looks young and old at the same time 🤣

[@nyg1984]

I should’ve found your channel earlier. I just realized that I recently bought an automatic chronograph watch in what you refer to as gray market. It came with a two year international warranty, but after I had it registered with the manufacturer, I found out that the warranty is only valid if it was bought from an authorized dealer. Now, the packaging and information of origin comes from an authorized dealer name, but the online company I made the purchase from doesn’t show in the list of authorized dealers. The only way for me to communicate with the seller is by email and she couldn’t give me a satisfactory answer when it came to the warranty cover. I’m happy with the watch, the price I paid for it and the fact that all the codes and numbers checked ok with the maker when I had it registered, but I sure hope it doesn’t give me any issues for the next two years at least.

[@alexfogg236]

Until a smart watch can be as tough as a casio g shock, I'm not buying one!

[@theurbangentry]

Well said, I like your thinking my friend. Thank you Alex. Best regards, TGV

[@nikaymackenzie3692]

Isnt g shock technically a smart watch

[@alexfogg236]

The Urban Gentry , thank you Sir.

[@alexfogg236]

Nikay Mackenzie , I guess it could count at one, mines the Internet connectability, and telephone usage.

[@newsama]

Look up the Casio WSD-F20, it might meet your requirements.

[@Vv20vV]

Is Amazon considered a Grey Market Warehouse?

[@samdas1261]

😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣

[@IKTV]

Yep, I consider it after having a not-so-good experience.

[@thomash4578]

It depends on the brand. Amazon is an AD for some and grey for other brands

[@PETERJOHN101]

My number #1 to avoid is any watch with a Chinese movement due to a lack of history, i.e. assurance of durability. The last China-made watch I bought will be my last. I never see any of the online marketing channels covering this. Gee, I wonder why? Yeah. By the way, watch makers are increasingly being bought out by the Chinese (all their "companies" are state owned of course), such as Rotary, Ingersol, etc.

[@dicksonhoang1700]

My favorite watch is Casio G-shock ! Man... It keeps perfect Time and so Reliable , you dont need to worry anything else ! Great videos! Great Job !:))

[@saltysoysauce954]

Gshock is great, theres a lot of special editions

[@dannyfree1120]

And everyone loves them!

[@pambrown7177]

This was the first video I watched of yours, very informative and intriguing, I look forward to more.

[@monstrok]

Great video. Unfortunately, I've learned several of these lessons (gray market and unservicable timepieces). I will not repeat the mistakes again and have one additional insight for the smartwatch discussion. Even if you can purchase extra watches (sans precious metals) or additional internal components to use for potential repair work, the batteries have a service life of 2-3 years (thanks Apple for admitting this). A new battery purchased at the end of a production run will also last only 2-3 years. By that time, the battery will be replaced by a new design, making it incompatible with your smartwatch (whether precious metal or not). One ends up with an expensive and value-less paperweight in half a decade.

[@theurbangentry]

Excellent comment John. Thank you, especially for having the integrity to share this. So often people do not what to admit their mistakes. You sir, are true Gentry! Onwards and upwards. Best regards, TGV

[@XHobbiesPrime]

I have bought several watches on the grey market. However they were only $200 or less. I think buying a luxury watch on the grey market is too dangerous. Sorry you had bad experiences.

[@alexbrooks8431]

John Clark I

[@hammercanttouchthis]

John Clark I used to love my Pebble Steel for a great knock about smart watch. Hammer proof and had some really wonderful apps, worked beautifully as a smartphone companion. That is until Pebble went out of business. It's still usable but the app hasn't been updated in years and sends a lot of your personal information to a 3rd party. Shame about the Apple batteries and Companies making watches knowing they will last 2-3 years tops.

[@scottwalton5888]

John Clark

[@sergiocortinhascortinhas9318]

Seiko watches are good, i have one basic of still got 24 years old and works very well.

[@jbguzman79]

Casio for life! My Gshocks may not be the nicest looking of watches but they are are very capable and damn near indestructible. My G shock steel is my daily driver and looks good. I'd like a MR.G in the future love the look.

[@threecats8219]

I love G-Shock. I bought the Wave-Ceptor solar powered ones, and they are still beating away on the same power cells they came with. One is thirteen years old.

[@emre.keser03]

Whipped99 some of them are even better looking than rolex! like steelseries or rangeman

[@threecats8219]

I doubt it. How are G-Shocks germ traps, when we wear them in the shower/bath, almost every day? Or just clean them now and again.

[@techstyle123]

G shock are amazing

[@ka9vmp]

@Star Trek Theory I have disassembled many. Please forgive my ignorance, but your point is lost on me.

[@MrKenny777]

I was about to spend £300 on a converted pocket watch - a lovely 1920s Omega. Hmm maybe I’ll go for a Seiko Presage instead.

[@Nikita73Nikita73]

In my opinion Seiko Presage is one of the best and affordable watches nowadays...however I prefer their solar collection 🤩

[@brunovazquez1]

Also, we need the reverse of this list. Top 10 watch brands from high end to low end. Your opinions obviously

[@stevestojan]

Avoid the grey market??? Haha. That’s the worst advice I’ve ever heard. So, we should buy at retail? (Well, that would be great for Rolex, but I digress.) Buy the seller. Luxury Bazzar, DavidSW, Delray Watch, etc are all “grey market” and are such a better option than going to an AD to get your free glass of $3 champagne while you’re there. Rubbish advice.

[@DenisHauser]

Cool German Armed Forces Victorinox Pocket Knife :)

[@kevinjfeeney77]

stumbled upon this video, and saw the knife and came in here to ask what it was...…. kudos for outright telling us all!

[@jpdavis6042]

Uh, the reputable used market internet dealers charge near new retail prices on pieces that are still in production. A new Rolex Explorer 1 from AD with a 10% discount (which can be had), goes for $5900, whereas the reputable used market internet dealers with their glorified laughable DBA's, sell them used in the range from $5 to 5.5k, depending on box/papers. I don't know how they stay in business and I have told them so. Same scenario as to new Seamasters still in production. As to pieces no longer in production, there are no deals to be found with them. Oh, yea, supposedly their highly skilled watch makers go through the pieces with a fine tooth comb, which I'm not buying at all. If one is looking for a 10 year old Sub for instance, might as well go to a brick and mortar in the Big Cities who deal in pre-owned luxury. The big Internet Warehouse in New York is OK in my book, say on a highly discounted entry level Swiss piece. Might even roll the dice with them on a new Speedo MOTM, one does have some protection using a credit card if the piece is a dog. Pls excuse the long post which is not my style.

[@gilbertoflores7397]

JP Davis Is he referring to Long Island Watches? Wasn't TGV the one promoting the company not that long ago?

[@SG-wj2qj]

I do find it a bit odd how they stay in business. I don't like wearing my nice watches to work, so I wanted a daily driver for the office/Factory. Decided to go with a Hamilton Khaki field 42... Now I can buy the watch new, at a authorized dealer for $780 Canadian (Tax incl) or... I can buy it off a grey market for $650... + any tax/duty & shipping + no factory warranty....and used Sites want about $600 for the dame watch... + shipping, tax and duties.

[@frankie1g2]

Very true

[@JO-ly3hi]

Out of all my watches, a $20 Armitron gets the most compliments...it's crazy!

[@stevec5465]

My first Armitron was over 30? years ago. The basic alarm chronograph. But it was cool at the time. Stainless steel bracelet.

[@Rich77UK]

This type of video boils my piss. Its so elitist. There is NOTHING wrong with modded watches. NOTHING wrong with customs. I make customs for myself. They are not worth anything to anyone but me and I guess I can forgive the comments if they are being sold at high prices because they are mods. But don't let snobbish attitudes put you off trying it for yourself. I made a Custom Seiko Samurai with the customer NH35 (4R35 movement) for a fraction of the cost a real one would set me back. Its got a genuine Seiko movement, and high quality parts selected by me for a one off. I love it. I don't like fakes to be honest. But for the same reason I don't like fakes I would NEVER splash out on a real Rolex or other high end multiple thousands watch. Everyone assumes its a fake. I have a Genuine Omega Seamaster Chrono and the first thing everyone asks is "is it a fake?". One reason I wear it less than my own made Seiko is this.

[@cipherxen2]

Either fakes rip original companies, or originals rip customers.

[@EllRiver]

But used real watches don't do either. Most watches depreciate by allot.

[@SENGVIN]

Explain pls, how are the originals ripping customers 🤦‍♂️🤔?

[@cipherxen2]

@@SENGVIN 🤦

[@FrankLagendijk]

Excellent video as usual but I disagree on the grey market. I bought many watches ($200 - $1200) from Joma (about 8 watches), Gemnation, World of Watches and Ashford and never had a problem. Every watch I received was brand new. They make it very easy to return and I have never been charged a restocking fee. I probably wouldn't be buying from an AD as the extra money for just the warranty is not worth it for me.

[@theurbangentry]

Thank you Frank, glad you hear you were luckier then me! Best regards, TGV

[@JohnDoe-bm5lp]

Frank Wulfers is it safer than amazon ?

[@imlost19]

if I'm saving $1500 on sticker price, I can afford to take the risk that the watch wont fail within the normal manufacturer warranty. If it does, it probably wont come close to making up that $1500 difference for out of pocket repairs.

[@judeplante6241]

Frank - your reply was 4 years ago....do you still feel confident in Joma? Ordered an Omega (delivery still TBD) and TGV comment making me nervous

[@FrankLagendijk]

@@judeplante6241 I recently ordered an Omega Aqua Terra from Joma through eBay and all was good. Brand new all in plastic. eBay has an extra layer of protection with the authenticity guarantee and easy returns. eBay items are always in stock so that's nice to know as well.

[@laurensbenny5578]

You saved me from fashion watches few months ago..Thanks

[@theurbangentry]

A pleasure! Thank you for posting that. Best regards, TGV

[@2soccerfreak2]

I unfortunately was caught. Not that it's bad, but I bought exactly what was shown, a Daniel wellington for my wife. She loves it, but going forward I'll be researching as I've just started with watches

[@drunkrelic1776]

Same I came to the conclusion they aren’t well made and the movement of them sucks for the price.

[@jancovanderwesthuizen8070]

Saved me from those huge blingy Invictas

[@saintzeph]

2soccerfreak2 I'm sorry for you're loss

[@HomeDolbyTheater]

(use 1.5 play speed when watching)