Please Stop Soying Over The Line City...

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[@_DeathDreams_]

I have a great idea for creating a "line city"... Connect two places with a train or something, which is very linear, and then develop neighborhoods around the stations along this "line". And we could go further; instead of one line, we could do multiple lines, like a multi-line city, with lines going all over and connecting to each other, and maybe we could go even further with circles and more!

[@catboynestormakhno2694]

Whoa mind-blowing shit here

[@wynoglia]

@@catboynestormakhno2694 unexplored new frontiers! Our ancestors will be proud of us 🥹

[@n0etic_f0x]

What if we then built a line of like asphalt and connected that to another one? Holy shit and you could like... keep doing that!

[@HairEEck]

@@n0etic_f0x car bad so no

[@n0etic_f0x]

@@HairEEck Make it using Neom and you just have to sit on the asphalt and it will zip you from one end to the other in only 8.4335 seconds. A Saudi prince told me so.

[@nickthetrbnplyr]

Imagine thinking a mirror finish will last more than a day getting sand blasted out there in the wind lmao

[@wabschall]

Or that a giant mirror wouldn't roast the landscape

[@verager2493]

Hey, that first day it'll act as a natural death ray to fry any who dare leave the city

[@erikwsince1981]

Let alone it would set fire to and melt anything close to it. No residents would be able to leave “the mirror wall” along its edge because they would be immediately melted.

[@thesunwillneverset]

It's self-propogating, it'll turn the surrounding sand to more glass!

[@jamesbonn2394]

Imagine a city that can be leveled by a single bomber plane passing!

[@Froggsroxx]

In Dune, the Baron Harkonan's capital city is a gigantic cube. The top surface is gardens and mansions for the people who are rich and loyal. All other citizens live inside the cube, a gigantic prison of steel with terrible conditions. It's designed to be hell, and that's what this reminds me of.

[@FelisImpurrator]

I'm endlessly amused by how these guys are so insane their designs sound like bad sci-fi parody.

[@Nuvizzle]

In Dune living in harsh miserable conditions such as the desert of Arrakis or the prison planet of Salusa Secundus also makes people into superhumans, so there's a logical incentive to do so. I don't think that reasoning transfers to the real world very well.

[@kaisarion6668]

It's Saudi Arabia. There's going to definitely be a slave section if this ever gets built.

[@Feefa99]

Decadent design

[@Feefa99]

@@Nuvizzle I like Dune, but I never understood this, maybe Saudis think they are Fremen with oil

[@masterplusmargarita]

The thing that gets me is the walls. They're not only unnecesary, they go super far into making it feel like you're living in a scifi dystopia. Imagine walking out of your house and you're surrounded by walls 100m in either direction, and you can't see the sky because there's the floor of a park for millionaires above you. It's literally a scene out of a depressing cyberpunk movie.

[@bobbirdsong6825]

judge dredd mega-block

[@PerplexedPlayers]

you know the first thing i thought when i saw this was "you know this would be a cool thing to build in space if it looped all the way around the planet as some kind of orbital colony station" in other words the only way you could get me to live in something like this is if the alternative is the vacuum of space

[@derpythean-comdoge8608]

@@PerplexedPlayers bro that’s just halo

[@PerplexedPlayers]

@@derpythean-comdoge8608 the halo doesnt loop around a planet...its just ring shaped for no reason at all they really copied the ringworld without thinking about why Larry nivens ringworld was shaped like that lmao

[@AOnAcid]

Damn, why did the creator of that bot even bother with the profile picture when the name is so obviously not Vaush.

[@TheSpeep]

"Artificial intelligence is to be used to simplify the lives of residents" might actually be one of the most cyberpunk dystopian lines anyone has ever said.

[@thekingoffailure9967]

Please simplify my life Lord Siri

[@andrewgreenwood9068]

Actually I think the line is the most dystopian line

[@Argumemnon]

It's also buzzword buzzword buzzword.

[@danieldaw1778]

This isn't the type of thing that should exist in real life. This is a thing that exists as some crazy concept in a sci-fi setting where the outside of the wall is surrounded by AIDS magma or something. Like, why the fuck would you want to live in this overly long human fishbowl?

[@danieldaw1778]

Also, how hilarious would it be if they asked the AI how to make the line more efficient and better utilize resources efficiently and it answered, "build a regular city, dipshit".

[@davitdavid7165]

@@danieldaw1778 imagine if it said it exactly like that

[@dylancolon5871]

And also you live under the iron fist of Prince Bone Saw and if you ever go outside of your fishbowl the climate resembles Arrakis. I'm sure people will be lining up to live there.

[@tartoflan]

Because the people living inside would be rich, while the aids-magma outside would be poor people, obviously

[@nackskott12]

These are the same people who watch Blade Runner and actually want to live in a city like that. It's JUST because they like the spectacle. They don't even register the dystopian angle of it, it looks cool to them so it's good.

[@mrmaniac3]

Migrating animals when they come upon the line city: well fuck

[@fithianmt7468]

Don't worry bro we got a team of crack engineers to build a series of giant escalators that go over the city to deal with that.

[@rainbowkrampus]

@@fithianmt7468 They'll just be cooked by the giant mirrors concentrating the sunlight.

[@RealmRabbit]

Migrating animals when they come upon the line city: "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY RETINAS ARE MELTINNNGGGGGG!!! THE SUNNNN!!! IT'S IN MY EYES!!! ARGHGHGHGHGHHGH!!!! WTF!!!!"

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Bird up! 💀💀💀

[@fallenmango8420]

@@rainbowkrampusmirrors don’t concentrate sunlight unless they’re curved

[@yacineg27]

The Line is a part of Neom, a city being produced by Saudi Arabia. The Saudi government has forcibly displaced and even murdered members of the Howeitat tribe who had lived on this land for generations. Tells you all you need to know about the project tbh.

[@BrandonPilcher]

You have to love how these oil sheikhs are like the West Asian version of Elon Musk. Impressing people with hi-tech futuristic ambitions while screwing over the less fortunate in the process.

[@FelisImpurrator]

It's almost as if being ultra-wealthy with everyone kissing your ass and telling you all your decisions are brilliant basically results in brain damage.

[@sortascouseace]

Hell the name neom seems like the most cyberpunk dystopian bs ever

[@AoiZassoOFCL]

betting $20 that the project is fake and they just wanted an excuse to do a genocide

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Aww ye we're in the Cyberpunk Dune timeline now.

[@ShabazzTBL]

Imagine the AI just tells them that the best way to use resources efficiently is to rebuild the city not in a line haha.

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

Also using trains for transport.

[@brawlinharry6461]

yeah, everyone knows that hexagon shapes are the best!

[@doriandundee9906]

I love how they're throwing ''AI will improve the lives of people'' in there while literally planning a city that is super illogical and literally the exact opposite of how an AI would design a city

[@rinothename5563]

These videos are so weirdly 100% sure of AI being the ultimate problem solver. But even the simplest AI that we have(siri, google home, etc) still makes mistakes and also needs progammers/technicians to make sure it runs properly, idk how they arrive at the conclusion that everything will be run by AI.

[@doriandundee9906]

@@rinothename5563 It's simple. Doesn't matter what we're planning, how much it costs or in what country... ''AI will make it better'' It's a PR slogan you can basically put at the end of everything because the average person has no idea what AI actually means or is currently capable of. You can see this concept working at the 2021 Tesla conference where Elon suggested that he would have fully functioning, humanlike, AI robots to help humanity with almost any task by the end of 2025... the fact that AI is miles away from such a fantasy ontop of the fact that Elon literally just had a guy in a spandex suit on stage pretending to be a robot... is not of importance to the average person, all they hear is AI and that's as far as they'll think about it. The fact that virtually every AI expert who isn't on the Tesla payroll publicly mocked Elon for his suggestion isn't heard or understood by the average audience member and as such holds no value when it comes to PR Elon also used the AI supported phrase when talking about life on Mars... how will we make it possible? wiTH tHe hElP oF Ai because AI is basically Jesus and god combined

[@ThejollyFrenchman]

Would the people living at the bottom of the line even have access to sunlight? They're proposing building literal undercities.

[@asherroodcreel640]

Sounds like a good opportunity for cool unethical research😎😎😎

[@starlightsanguivore]

certified Arcane moment

[@verager2493]

I think they said parks would be the bottom floor in the video. So, ya know, pitch black/artificially lit parks. A place where you definitely won't get stabbed. But don't worry, Allah will punish the criminals when the trains they definitely won't maintain fall on them!

[@BleedForTheWorld]

This is dystopian af.

[@Sivanot]

@@verager2493 I think the parks were the top of the line, with the trains on the bottom. doesnt make it any less stupid though.

[@bpdmf2798]

Living in the nosebleed section of the line city would probably smell terrible with hundreds of thousands of people stinking up a giant ant farm in the desert.

[@FelisImpurrator]

That's just Dubai, the city that never pipes out its shit

[@kuronetwork920]

Is that bottom or top.

[@Reallifesatan]

I never realized that’s exactly what this is; a fucking ant farm!

[@unvergebeneid]

@@Reallifesatan I think they're officially using that "termite mound" analogy in their marketing material.

[@unvergebeneid]

@xo wait, are there any parasitic ants or termites?

[@smaakjeks]

I have an idea: How about cutting the line in half and putting two lines side by side, to increase centralisation and to make travel more efficient? Or cut it in four and have four shorter lines side by s-- oh wait, I'm reinventing the basic layout of city again.

[@kaisarion6668]

0:45 "It's in 3D!" Yes, unlike regular buildings that only exist in 2 dimensions...

[@ghostbill1010]

The thing I can't get over is the structure of the city. Wouldn't it be so much more stable to make a snaking/zigzag wall shape instead of a linear wall? Plus, The Line sounds dumb, while The Snake sounds way better

[@mothgru]

Bendy wall would be way more expensive than a straight wall. Also bends in the reflective outer surface would probably cause wildfires.

[@Bruh-hq1hx]

Yes, but if its called the Snake, people might think that it is named after the average Saudi Oil Baron

[@Nerobyrne]

@@mothgru wildfires? Where, there's nothing to burn ^^ The main problem with that is that it would concentrate the weather impact in the concave parts.

[@StarryxNight5]

A zigzag would probably be more efficient the more acute the angles got (as in, the closer the thing gets to an actual city.) The Line is just an incredibly, supremely stupid concept just from the base geometry of it

[@Avr33Gaming]

This is the meme city you build playing city skylines that collapses at 3k pop

[@thekingoffailure9967]

RT game literally built This city in city skylines

[@Avr33Gaming]

@@thekingoffailure9967 I was thinking about that video while I made the comment lmao

[@thekingoffailure9967]

@@Avr33Gaming hell yeah, next month Saudi Arabia is gonna be announcing their poop volcano progect

[@jhonatanhernandez3568]

This is incredibly terrible in terms of security as well. A single accident or terrorist attack in any point of the line shuts down the city. Do it in both ends and the whole city gets locked.

[@josh-oo]

The inside of it looks like Glass (the city from Mirror's Edge). Y'know, a dystopian police-state where everyone is under surveillance all the time and free expression is a crime punishable by death. Definitely not a place anyone should wanna live.

[@FelisImpurrator]

The outside of it looks like glass (the thing it's incredibly dumb to cover a gigantic object with in the middle of the desert lmao).

[@Dave01Rhodes]

Yeah I was just thinking it’d be a great setting for Mirror’s Edge 3

[@josh-oo]

@@FelisImpurrator That's because it is.

[@josh-oo]

@@Dave01Rhodes Mirror's Edge 3 deserves better, in my opinion.

[@jeffmyname1637]

Counter point: Think of the parkour opportunities

[@Shidonmytid]

Also realistically, ANY expansion on the city would automatically negate their intentions with making it; Not only that but it wouldn't house enough people to be worth building in the first place, even if every single person who moves there is rich.

[@101BlackRaven]

And if everyone is living there is wealthy, no one can work the essential businesses which would make the society completely crumble. This idea is so mindbogglingly dumb, jesus christ making a line in the sand.

[@maeschder]

Yeah people would just instantly buy up the space next to the wall and start building shit to attract more dipshits (not that this will be real but, ya know)

[@The_Phoenix_Saga]

Ever thought there was truth behind eugenics and why "conspiracy theorists" can see that everything - especially over the last two years and so, with more on the way, is designed with one thing in mind? To spell it out - they're looking to purge the population till it suits.

[@Grace-tg4oy]

I want them to try and abandon it partway through like that amusement park in China just to see how a half kilometer by 100 kilometer mirror in the middle East would decay.

[@jacobmadaffari5420]

7:00 "And as night falls, you can witness the stars as you've never seen them before." Yeah, as in pretty much not at all, since the light pollution from this place would be so intense you wouldn't be able to see the fucking sky.

[@bernardfacebook7821]

@Nathan Connolly He's talking about the mountain city not the line.

[@vospecv8928]

Building up a Coruscant one line at a time. All the trash and unwanteds going to be dumped to the ground floors.

[@hi__im_zack4890]

The only city that when you go "outside" you are still inside. Great, i see no problems.

[@rainbowkrampus]

City. Jail. Who can say what the difference is really?

[@NeoRipshaft]

Man just imagine how many American journalists your could chop up in that city and have the whole world just kind of ignore and continue to trade with you... I'm betting double figures.

[@themithnecrofi]

Some Saudi Prince probably "I am giving the company I own to make an impossible city with no oversight. This is very good and not authoritarian"

[@evetalbott7]

I’m deceased. “Travel end to end in twenty minutes”. Hey what else do I know that can do that same thing and conveniently have existed for hundreds of years without needing to make a huge overhaul to the way a whole city functions and operates… it starts with t and ends in rain.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

This is trains. The city is based around having no cars and everyone living walking distance from the central train line.

[@fateless3239]

The craziest part is that they expect this massive construct, with ridiculously compact services not to be a hub for natural growth. My brother in Allah- people will just build around the construction site, what are you expecting them to commute to the line or stay in tents for it's century long construction?

[@asherroodcreel640]

That's what the artilleries for, stupid

[@blitzthebird]

That's what the mirror finish is for, anyone trying to settle next to the city would be cooked to death

[@Junebug89]

@@blitzthebird Don't go into any Saudi consulates, they know you're onto them

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@blitzthebird Lol that sounds like something a wealthy villain would build.

[@ArDeeMee]

„My brother in Allah“ I just love it when memes translate. =)

[@joshuapowers4623]

I think it was thunderfoot, he estimated the cost of this project to be more than the entire worlds gdp. Like in the hundreds of trillions range if I remember correctly.

[@JohnSmith-co1cp]

500 billion dollars is jaw-droppingly insane, and that’s assuming this insanely complex vanity construction project stays on time and budget, which of course major construction projects projects aaaaaalways do.

[@ihatetrollingGaming]

are we just going to ignore the literal floating trees in the video? like they're not even pretending that this is actually doable

[@kampa7671]

@xo 1:16 I mean, if they could do that, they should be marketing their marvelous anti-gravity technology instead of this giant city. It would be enough to make them billions, even if it only worked on trees.

[@sophiatrocentraisin]

Let's give credit where it's due, it's actually a pretty good idea for a sci-fi dumpster fire of a town. Definitely stealing this idea next time I have to create a people who had a Very Bad Idea™

[@goldegreen]

oh no......the scambots got vaush....

[@MK_ULTRA420]

"We almost completed a tower that could reach the heavens, but we had to stop because the workers at the top kept dying." ~ Old Babylonian Man

[@AxelLeJeff]

Deus Ex Mankind Divided literally included this as a footnote, and it's a slum for augs.

[@asherroodcreel640]

This would make a really cool 40k setting

[@Warsmith_The]

Immediately made me think of hive cities

[@josh-oo]

​@@Warsmith_The Necromunda: Hired Help

[@LovedandTheLover]

That is the most subtle back handed complement I have ever heard

[@btarczy5067]

@@LovedandTheLover I like the combination of „subtle“ with anything regarding 40k. But you’re right!

[@jackandrechristopherkactat8828]

In vaush comments and referenced 40K- trans girl detected- Predicted accuracy: 85% Mission statement: make pointless observation Mission successful

[@Grace-tg4oy]

Imagine being the land surveyor for this.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Imagine smoking enough copium to legitimately think the pinnacle of human architecture should literally be a line in the sand.

[@Mango_Eter]

2:12 I don't think the Saudi's even know where their country is, cause that video just zoomed in on Thailand...

[@leek6927]

@@Mango_Eter yeah, that was the funniest part to me

[@angelman906]

@@Mango_Eter it won’t be soon…

[@Mango_Eter]

@@angelman906 the first Saudi colony in south east asia

[@tonychick8335]

the footprint of this line city is not large enough for the number of parallel train lines required to move the people around at rush hour and the 20 minute travel time claim would imply a high speed train that only stops at the ends and ignores everyone else

[@ashleydavis3318]

I thought about this as well. You would also have to accommodate freight trains, because it's the only feasible mode of logistics. Good luck building like 16 parallel tracks and a vertical rail yard.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

I think they are expecting a large proportion of people to live close enough to their work place to walk there.

[@vylbird8014]

Moving walkways. If your dream is impossible anyway, might as well go full Jetsons.

[@pedroff_1]

b-but they said AI would fix evrything!

[@themanwithoutaplan9389]

This would be shit place to live, but a killer setting for a dystopian cyber/desert punk story

[@Mae_Dastardly]

The intro flyover montage for the movie adaptation would have hold the line by toto playing

[@dascommissar5264]

They’re moving away from oil, but everything they build is insanely car-dependent. Enjoy your 20-lane freeway as the sun turns your desert to glass…

[@darryljack6612]

So...a literal Scifi dystopia?

[@vxicepickxv]

Last time I heard about an AI being involved in an arcology, it did not end well for the surviving citizens.

[@gilgazord0303]

@@thegercast4794 The Machine Stops

[@Ohhelmno]

What the fuck would logistics look like? Would it have like a truck door and dock literally like every 15 feet along the facade? Like, it doesn’t seem like delivering or exporting goods to this place would be very efficient at all.

[@vxicepickxv]

It's more like every rail stop would have a drop off point for goods to be used via elevators.

[@asherroodcreel640]

@@vxicepickxv drones

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Goods get moved on a lower level below the trains.

[@unvergebeneid]

High-speed rail is supposed to be the backbone of this thing. Now there are tons of problems with this, dont get me wrong. But servicing it with trucks that drive in the desert? Even the US uses trains for cargo.

[@erikwsince1981]

No it wouldn’t be able to have anything along the facade because it’s literally a mirror wall of death that will melt anything that comes close to it.

[@wyndgrove9452]

For anyone wanting to see how this would end up, I recommend the 2000AD comics: Getting very strong megacity vibes from this hellscape. Why don't these autocracies put all that money and effort into transitioning away from fossil fuels with sustainable development, rather than insanely wasteful building projects?

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Well, this one is based around walking and trains only, cars are banned. There are plus points.

[@danielcrafter9349]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 - not really a "plus point" as it ensures everyone is restricted to their own neighbourhood because of walking

[@nocturnalpie]

@@danielcrafter9349 Bro it's only a short walk. The short walk:

[@RuSosan]

40k Hive Cities come to mind as well. The Line seems like the starting base for one. So it's the future Underhive. I'm also laughing at the name, mostly because of Spec Ops: _The Line_ and it's portrayal of a ruined, post-cataclysmic Dubai.

[@rainbowkrampus]

I never realized Judge Dredd was a middle easterner.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

somebody played city skylines and went "yeah, let's do that"

[@joshuapowers4623]

The graphic at starting at 8:35 shows this "city" on the right side just randomly ending for the mountains & restarting on the other side. Yeah, that doesn't pose any questions.

[@presidenttogekiss635]

As a resident of Brasilia: it's a lovely city, but its design is super flawed in mant ways. The modernist archtecture does have charm, but its not enough really. As for who built it: it was a democractically elected goverment, though it was long planned It was said that President Kubsthech, who was Romani, consulted tarot cards with his mom to see if building it was auspicious kkkk

[@helipeus1882]

So they planned city based on tarot cards

[@NIHIL_EGO]

You're supposed to use Tarot cards to help you get insight on your life, NOT TO BUILD A FUCKING CITY !

[@NikhilGuptaenkayjee]

This is the world's most expensive Mall ever conceived

[@George-zj9rr]

Every real city was built out of necessity to utilize some natural resource, and always in stages as the population grew and attracted more people wanting to settle down. Some billionaire coming along and plopping down the 100 billion necessary to make what we think of as a modern city, to rescue rural America from decline for example, is a sad fantasy. No one would even come to live there without a real incentive.

[@vylbird8014]

Not /quite/ every real city. There are a few that originated as company towns. Generally this happened when there was a business that required a huge number of employees, back before mechanisation - thousands of people to work in a mine or something like that. In such cases the business owner might build their own town to house the workers. These were known as 'company towns' and generally did not make for a pleasant place to live. As a single company owned every plot of land, they had a monopoly - there was only one company to rent a house from, only one company to buy food from, only one company to buy anything else from. They charged prices accordingly. They also made that housing only available to company employees - so if you lost your job you also lost your house and had no choice but to leave town entirely, allowing for even greater levels of worker exploitation. But none of these were anywhere close to the proposed scale of the Line.

[@pedroff_1]

As chat mentioned, Brasília is such a (somewhat deliberate) crappy design. I haven't been there, but I've heard it is impossible to traverse without cars. Not to mention how it leads to the formstion of satelite cities and all of that. It isn't that wild that people suspect this is all by design, to keep the government as separste from actual people as possible

[@AlexM-wq7in]

It was built by a democratically elected government through, several years before the military took over in a coup.

[@pedroff_1]

@@AlexM-wq7inYeah, that part chat got wrong, as it was built during JK's mandate. Point probably stands more as democratically-elected leaders tend to care more about tending to the population's need

[@AlexM-wq7in]

@@pedroff_1 Brasilia is beautiful modernist architecture wasted on horrible urban planning imo.

[@pedroff_1]

@@AlexM-wq7in Totally agree. Niemeyer's architecture is really cool and I think Vaush woukf love it, but, famn, what a horrid urban design

[@endplanets]

"The Line" already exists. Its called the 5 Freeway in California.

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

"Why not use footage from Warframe or Destiny 2" Because the line city is literally just Europa/Riis Reborn. Like deadass, the way the bridges are built within the city is literally the exact same as the walkways connecting the buildings within Riis Reborn.

[@yourewrong9028]

Do you mean Eventide? Riis Reborn has a lot more of a raw industrial feel than this. But yeah, it does look like something out of Destiny or some other sci-fi game.

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

@@yourewrong9028 Yeah, Eventide isnt really a whole city since it was gutted for Riis-Reborn which is built on top of it lol.

[@yourewrong9028]

@@trial_with_an_error9687 true, but I was just kind of thinking of what those Eventide ruins would look like if they were less dilapidated and had the same kind of sleek feel of Braytech Futurescape or like, Eternity.

[@thatdarnskag5043]

Speaking of D2, I've really been enjoying the fact that the lore and story-telling have been clearly influenced by progressive ideas for a while now. It was freaking cool to read up and watch how Bungie handled the idea of Eliksni refugees to the City, and I really wish I hadn't taken some time off of D2 during that time 😔

[@yourewrong9028]

@@thatdarnskag5043 This isn’t NECESSARILY indicative of progressive politics, but Bungie’s storytelling has been pretty clearly anti-organized religion since Halo. I mean, you don’t have alien organizations like the Hive and the Covenant as your big bad enemies unless you’re trying to say something negative about religious zealotry. Edit: if that’s not enough for you, the most dangerous Vex are the Sol divisive, who exhibit religious tendencies. The Fallen attacked humanity for spiritual reasons. The Speaker, who was more or less the defacto religious head of the City, turned out to be more or less a fraud. Future war cult being a major political faction in government was a bad idea. Etc, etc.

[@xdrowssap4456]

5:05 needs a crossover between voosh and the captain disillusion

[@lietz13]

Imagine suggesting building up in a desert with empty land for miles.

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Egypt be like:

[@Applemangh]

I guess the idea of having a bunch of walkable neighborhoods all strung together by an efficient public transportation system would be pretty cool.

[@colinhaney]

Yeah that's the only good concept here but even so, they'd still need some way to get to their jobs out in the desert because there's no industry in the city to support it. The fact they came up with a concept that would take more than all the money in the world to create but it doesn't address the "self-sufficiency" problem in any way is too perfect

[@tltinatl]

Where would the 25,000 construction workers required to build this live during the 100 years it would take to finish it?

[@btarczy5067]

I think they may have accidentally skipped the slave quarters zone.

[@allergy5634]

Imagine the energy required keeping this place cool enough for human habitation

[@riisitee]

Im pretty sure a 170km long line in the desert would be bad for the fauna on the country as well. Im not an expert on this in anyway, but i could imagine a giant mirrow wall getting in the way of finding water, food or mates And they couldn't build wildlife bridges over it either, since it would be so tall too

[@synthiandrakon]

Beyond anything just imagine how long it would take to build a building, half a mile high for miles on end. It would literally take too long

[@TheOblivionMan]

That trailer feels like it should be the opening of a video game, before it gets all staticky and pans out to show some dystopian hellscape around the half-busted monitor it was playing on.

[@colinhaney]

That's EXACTLY what it looks like! Only difference i can think of is that the video game scene would be more fleshed out and cooler looking. 🙄

[@benc9567]

Are you sure this isn't just the next Bioshock setting? They like stupid, non-viable cities.

[@Time_Is_Left]

I wonder what they mean by “unique community’s”. Think it might be anything along the lines of “And this is where we keep the black peoples”?

[@ashleydavis3318]

It's 'communities'. Apostrophe+s usually means possessive. You're right, though. Very sussy.

[@Time_Is_Left]

@@ashleydavis3318 Yea, their Not doing; Themselves’s any favor’s on reputation washing in my opinion? Lol

[@anewagora]

On one hand, this kind of thing taps into my escape fantasy of being in a walkable community in nature among people I'm close with, not having to struggle through all the cultural turmoil and extreme clashes in America. But on the other hand, this kind of thing has that creepy futurist look that acts like human beings can manipulate nature infinitely into anything we want. I have to say, this post-2020 world is turning me into more of a primitivist.

[@helipeus1882]

Humans should be able to turn nature into whatever they want

[@InsufficientGravitas]

It's just barely a step above american style suburbia, and could only be made worse by adding an arterial road or giving it a pebbledash facade.

[@saltiney8578]

yes im sure life will be much better in saudi arabia in a futuristic bladerunner city lol what could go wrong?

[@fallenmango8420]

@@InsufficientGravitasthis is worse than suburbs, by a lot. And that’s really saying something.

[@sothisisbasicallyhow4696]

Holy moly. Anybody who understands the square-cube law is on the verge of vomiting right now.

[@evylinredwood]

Would you like to explain I like math.

[@RealGotier]

@@evylinredwood basically as the length is increased, the width and height increase to match proportions

[@evylinredwood]

@@RealGotier ah okay just that then. That's sensible.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Also, the gigantic fucking wall of mirrored glass in a desert.

[@gir5o1]

@@FelisImpurrator right? What if those walls reflect the sun to melt a glass moat into the sand around it?

[@Mel0D]

"NEOM will have its own trade and civil laws so that investors aren't turned off by the ultra conservative laws of greater Saudi Arabia" ok check this out, his highness. epic idea for you. what if you made your *entire* country more attractive to investors by repealing the ultra conservative restrictive laws everywhere? haaaah????

[@adabsurdum5905]

Traveling 100 miles in 20 minutes would mean a top speed of 300mph. OK, buddy

[@asherroodcreel640]

Imagine how much garbage would collect at the bottom, gods

[@mrg0th1er83]

I think the line shape is just because it's all built over the train/subway line. Of course they could also make the track loop or make multiple lines like normal cities. But that standard shape wouldn't generate as much press I guess.

[@19Szabolcs91]

Exactly, like seriously. Even if it just had one train line, but it was a circle, it'd be multiple times as efficient in every way. Then of course, it'd s a no brainer to just fill in the circle instead of building upwards for no good reason, add 2-3 more train lines crossing the middle of the circle, have the commercial things at the middle so they are equally close to the edge of the circle. And boom, you have a regular city only by upgrading the original concept.

[@Eric-md3mp]

@@19Szabolcs91 only the most cutting edge ideas can be upgraded easily into what we already have... wait that doesn't sound right

[@mrg0th1er83]

@@19Szabolcs91 The only good thing about this is that even a petro state is going to ditch cars for its future urban planning. That is a good sign.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

The main line is super high speed, which you couldn't do if it was a circle. But if it wasn't so stretched out you wouldn't have to travel so far to reach a given location, so maybe you wouldn't need the train to go so fast.

[@19Szabolcs91]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 There are no benefits of having a super high speed train anyway within a city. There needs to be many stops close to each other so it actuall functions as public transport. Before the train could actually speed up to max, it'd already have to slow down for the next stop. High speed rail only makes sense for travel from one city to another where there is a large distance between stops when the high speed can actually be used.

[@matthewsanchez7953]

Looks pretty "Fyre" to me lol.

[@IAmNumber4000]

Vaush, have you seen the EEVBlog or ThunderF00t videos on Solar Freakin’ Roadways? It was essentially a kickstarter campaign to replace roads with circuitboard-controlled smart solar panels. Another scam Those two channels tore it to shreds

[@conorknoxy]

Oh god the zig zagging halls, the solid outside walls, 100km long this is an absolute engineering nightmare when it comes to safety regulations

[@wile123456]

What's so stupid about this line is that if you did the exact same concept but as a circle with cross sections it would actually make a tiny semblance of sense

[@samhudson3814]

Let’s build a greenhouse near the equator, hotness. Is this some kinda of coke fueled madness ? A long line of coke

[@asherroodcreel640]

I wounder what no sun light would do to a person?

[@VMonkies]

I mean, it has to happen to people you care about, for one. Since this is a Gulf state, the lower blocs will likely be filled with African and SE Asian laborers who are already treated like they're subhuman in the Middle East now.

[@domsquared9878]

Lol all you gotta do is look at an average chatter

[@asherroodcreel640]

@@VMonkies yeah I never got that if your just going to work them like horses why not go the extra mile and just eat them when they stop being useful?

[@Matthew.E.Kelly.]

It basically turns you into Destiny, from what I've heard.

[@crabohato4954]

Ok, but how the fuck do you get into the city? The only idea I can come up with is that there would be a giant metro station connected to the metro system of the Line right below a giant airport, which would be right next to the city. But then you have to worry about building an even bigger transit system in the middle of the Saudi desert.

[@swordhunter12]

And even if you do get in, how would you even navigate a city like that, especially with the projections they're showing? Even in the best case scenarion, you'd need to have an elevator like every couple.

[@crabohato4954]

@@swordhunter12 god, you better hope there's not an outage. Or else you're just stuck

[@MrTheWaterbear]

Also, these sorts of lavish architectural/city-planning projects have already been done in places like Singapore. And just look at how it turned out - didn't contribute much. Sure, the actual growth and development of Singapore is in large part due to it being a cool place to live, but not because they have a boat on top of two skyscrapers.

[@skyscraperfan]

Just calculate how many cubic metres of volume it has: 17 billion. So if the budget really is only $500 billion, that is less than $30 per cubic metre. Even a wooden hut in your garden costs more than $100 per cubic metre.

[@johnnyth440]

Back in 2014, when I was starting to get into the culture war BS... yeah, yeah, I'm not proud either. I remember seeing smug white guys simping for things like that. I'm glad that a popular youtuber is now calling their BS out.

[@JRemy-pr8dm]

Tons of window washing jobs.

[@Inaf1987]

As you have made a video on urban planning, could you also do a video on how the infrastructure in suburbs is actually subsidized by the poor inner city? This is the number one reason why I think Dems are so dependent on the "moderate voter"

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Infrastructure in the suburbs is subsidised by federal grants for building infrastructure. But once it's built the city has to pay to replace it when it wears out. So they build a new suburb with subsidised infrastructure and use the taxes from that for the repairs. It's a giant ponzi scheme.

[@Inaf1987]

If you look at Gerrymandered districts, you find that suburbs are located in these deep red / swing districts, if we do away with these subsidies to the affluent suburbs and make them do away with their bans on homes that are not single family homes, and if they allow apartments that usually house voters that are lower income, then this could aid progressives.

[@diogocarreira5079]

I know everyone wants to build upward, but I've wondered for a while if maybe building deep wouldn't be a more viable option. To have a conical shape in the center that allows light in, and everything radiates from that central area. Elevators would still be necessary, but cooling and heating could be cheaper, LED lighting could help too. Sewer lift stations and trash elevators would be costlier though

[@thehumantoeRD]

And they will have law enforcement become "judges" and act as judge, jury, and executioners.

[@IAmNumber4000]

Even if the glass is mirrored, that thing will turn into a solar oven during the day. Those people will fry

[@maninalift]

This video is actually awesome. It draws in the audience with what looks like futurist tech-p*rn, then suggests some questions about the validity of this concept then smacks you in the face with some uncomfortable facts, that get progressively more uncomfortable

[@calebharris292]

I'm just waiting for "hey why don't we just live in the dysonsphere hell in the Blame! Manga!"

[@RuSosan]

I have an idea: What if we built a beyond gargantuan single city for all the people? Like, like a HIVE type thing! Yeah. That sounds great.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

A line city that is super multi-layered would be something that I would love to see in a video game, walk through in VR, or visit as a tourist. But it is just so unfeasible that I pity anyone who suffers due to some dictator's obsession with compensating.

[@Izaya13]

That cg bit looks ripped from the mass effect citadel.

[@craigstephenson7676]

No stream Tap to retry

[@b.p.emma.]

if nothing else thanks for the inspiration saudi! i know ill be thinking a lot about this type of city design in my scifi universe xd

[@b.p.emma.]

@Vaush⁺⓵⓹⓸⓵⓶⓼⓺⓽⓺⓵⓶ thanks mr vaush. really appreciate the genuine message. sent by vaush

[@Zelleynor]

i Love the absolutely banger text saying "organized in 3 dimensions".

[@szymonchojczak1627]

I was in saudi for a promotion conference for this thing. They already started digging the hole for it but people who work in urban design got no idea what they are doing and got no actual design

[@dogearflopper7011]

26:02 Vaush will now receive his spanking.

[@teetree6661]

This is literally the Arabian city concept from Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

[@SmotheredByLove]

ngl, this sounds a whole lot like the overtop enthusiastic ad you’d get a the start of video game where you must explore what remains of this dystopic mess. Everytime you reach a new section of the city, a little audio clip plays, introducing it in sharp contrast to the reality of the situation.

[@aennaenn7468]

The line city promo vid looks and sounds like the intro to a dystopian survival RPG where the camera is gonna pan out from a malfunctioning vid screen into a hellscape and a big red THE LINE title.

[@grifcanon]

I think this is fantastic tool to fool far more advanced aliens not to fuck with humans by flexing a totally finctional logic-breaking mastery over architecture. Like clips of Star Wars during during the Cold War.

[@youhave3verything]

This is literally a human sized ant farm 💀

[@thomasharris7881]

I’m just looking at those mirrored walls in the desert and thinking anyone trapped on the outside of it would instantly burst into flames, or melt into sentient liquid goo, it would be a blinding spot on the horizon for thousands of miles around and could probably used to sink ships off the coast line…

[@DGAMINGDE]

22:32 Brazilia was build under a guy, who's name and I'm not joking is abbreviated JK, who was elected democratically. Should be noted that it was a stupid "one-round, popular vote elected". He won with 35% (2nd place on 30%). Luckily today its at least a 2-round-system.

[@bluepurplepink]

This is Saudi Arabia pretending to be Dubai. They could never. They haven’t even been able to finish their super tall skyscraper

[@FelisImpurrator]

I mean, Dubai got owned by forgetting what plumbing was, so they're just drowning in a stew of fetid aerosolized shit.

[@andreisidro6544]

Anyone with the least bit of knowledge on architecture knows this will never happen

[@ele1483]

all i can think about is the amount of dead birds lining the city mirror

[@Jack-fw4mw]

6:30 yooo that would be such a hype workout bike ride.