Analyzing Evil: Menace II Society

Hello everyone and welcome to the one hundred twenty ninth episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature topic for this video are the characters and themes of Menace II Society. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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[@brettstarks1846]

Such a sad ending. “My grandfather once asked me if I cared whether or not I lived or died. Turns out I do, but now it’s too late.”

[@danadane2501]

Yes, I was 12 years old when this movie dropped and those last words still ring in my head when ever somebody Mentions Menace 2 Society.

[@brettstarks1846]

@@danadane2501Yeah, it really lays bare the unforgiving nature of life at times. It’s always sad to see someone strive to change their circumstances, only for said circumstances or past mistakes to bring them down.

[@kenarmstrong128]

You're on point as usual. THANK YOU

[@D20jackson]

🔥🔥🔥

[@YoungYahtz94]

⁠​⁠@@danadane2501 This movie came out before I was born but I also saw it when I was about 12-13 and it had the same impact on me. It struck me to my core. Made me realize early on how harsh reality can be sometimes

[@hakarumonoka]

O-Dog was crazy loyal as a friend, but also just purely insane.

[@kjreddragonwilliams27teku10]

Fact too bad he got arrested after Kane died if he haven't show everyone the tape and ended up giving Chauncey instead destroying it...

[@Sam-xr8ne]

trauma bonding.

[@damianstarks3338]

Yeah O-Dog was a straight up menace.

[@HILAL19564]

A straight up psychopath.. Helluva character though

[@jeffjohnson1966]

"You want some cheeseburgers?" That scene imo, cemented how lost that man was. I once had a homeless crackhead offer to suck me off for money, I just walked away, definitely didn't shoot him

[@artoffacts96]

I think the afro centrist characters death was the most saddening because he was the closest to changing his life around but he hung out with the wrong people thinking he could change them.

[@ichigokurosaki1081]

They weren't the wrong people, they were his friends and a true friend would do what he was doing and try to get his homies on the right path and away from the hood shit.

[@BlackxExorcistitsyaboi]

​@@ichigokurosaki1081got him killed so def the wrong people

[@artoffacts96]

@ichigokurosaki1081 yeah no homes are not that still got him killed over some stuff he didn't do, your mindset proves how deep the psychological effects of this stuff has on people.

[@artoffacts96]

@BlackxExorcistitsyaboi frfr if your homies almost get you killed they are the wrong people.

[@OsirisThaMystikal]

@@artoffacts96 socioeconomic*, not psychological

[@wildnregaltv1610]

I wasn’t expecting a historical breakdown of how communities like Kane & O-Dog’s became what they are. Your depth is thoroughly appreciated.

[@brandonjackson3641]

I agree

[@JakeKoenig]

It's complete BS. Go to Haiti, Jamaica, or any African country and you'll see far worse, and none of the pathetic woke excuses he lists apply to those countries. Those communities became what they are because black people live there, end of story.

[@turnkeydirect]

Should be called “Analyzing Excuses”

[@Jersey1287]

​@@turnkeydirectyou mean truth

[@tomzydaone8976]

@@turnkeydirectexcuses for what??

[@ChrisWelsh-t4x]

O - dog is a straight up sociopath. His complete lack of compassion, empathy or more importantly guilt for the people he has killed as well as his total detached and unrelenting violent nature is one of the most unsettling characterizations ever put on screen depicting this type of evil. Cain on the other hand is definitely both a villain and a victim. His traumatic upbringing and social surroundings are instrumental in his outlook on life but the real interesting thing about Caine's character is that he's able to compartmentalise his emotions and thoughts and acknowledge the severity of the chaos in his life but unfortunately continues to make to make bad choices that will sadly result in his death. One of the most powerful , thought provoking movies of all time.

[@nicholsdeshan]

But ODog showed sympathy to people cared for the most when he realized it was to late he was devastated that Caine was killed

[@ChrisWelsh-t4x]

@@nicholsdeshan I get what you are saying but in the scene where cane and harold get jacked? He shows concern for cane sure but shows complete indifference to harold who's lying on the floor. Sharif tries to point out that leaving him there was not right while o-dog insists "he dead" if someone was lying in the street even with a shot to the head I'm calling an ambulance or taking them to a hospital. You can't presume that anyone is dead just because there unconscious. When o-dog alerts caine that he's found out where the guys who killed his cousin all hang out with his famous quote "you down with a 187?" To me its not about o-dog getting revenge but instead using what happened to caine losing his cousin as a way of fulfilling his own lust for murderer. He makes it clear in the car that he just doesn't care who he he kills "I just don't give a fuck" and when he senses that Caine is having second thoughts he then uses harold to get Caine back down to his level. The only time we really see o-dog show genuine emotion is at the end but what's really surprising is that his emotions and sadness are directed at Sharif and not cane? And there's a reason for that? O-dog looked up Sharif before he turned Muslim and changed his ways. I think that Sharif in the past took o-dog under his wing when was still troublesome and probably introduced and affiliated dog into the lifestyle? After Sharif cleaned up his act he felt guilty beyond words about this and spent the remainder of his life trying to undo it. Which is why continuously preached and tried to appeal to everyone's common sense. This is only my perspective but everytime i watch it it's hard to unsee it. Absolute masterpiece of a movie.

[@bryany6565]

Modern day stuff....

[@1990maman]

@@ChrisWelsh-t4x What you said isn't wrong at all, but I think Dog knows if someone isn't gonna make it. You twitch uncontrollably when you get hit in the head and maybe he just knew he was done for. But I agree that he didn't care for Harold

[@danadane2501]

Probably one of the most unbiased run down I've ever heard about this movie or the struggle of anyone growing up in a hellish/completely unjust environment.

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

How? The other video breakdowns were biased?

[@TheRealBatCave]

​@@ptolemeeselenion1542 they weren't

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

@@TheRealBatCave How so? I am not informed about any of these.

[@need-to-know-]

@@ptolemeeselenion1542what in the world are you asking?

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

@@need-to-know- What?

[@bornimusic]

“As long as you’re still breathing, it’s never too late.” Beautiful work. Thank you.

[@deviledegg8266]

The most soul wrenching feeling about this whole film is that it's real. This is real then and it is very real now. Still is...relevant.. still suffering. This movie is still the reality of many people's lives.

[@stacierose1692]

Yes 🙏🕊️so glad he did an amazing analysis on it

[@ThaSupaHeroReD]

Mainly because of the propaganda from movies like these, hollywood and mainstream music pushes. Mainstream media is to blame because it glorifies gang culture and the majority are influenced.

[@12tribes61]

Compton ain’t no joke

[@Balal8281]

@@12tribes61Compton is cool now. $800,000 dollar homes and shit, it’s so hard to move there you gotta be wealthy

[@ViceHacks]

Gentrification is creating similar ethnic lines as the ones created in the 60’s they’re just shifting

[@RonnieMyers777]

One thing that tripped me out was how O-Dogg stopped cursing around Caine's grandfather

[@nicholsdeshan]

Not really even ODog seemed cold and evil he loved Caine so there would be no reason to disrespect Caine grandfather

[@RonnieMyers777]

@@nicholsdeshan good point

[@Luvinmydejah97]

Also the scene when Caine stomps out that girl’s cousin. O- dog hurried up and got Caine off him once he saw his grandfather came out the house

[@AlmightyFlameV]

I know the channel analyzing evil but can we get a round of applause for Kane’s grandparents. Those are the “Riots” survivors who tried to raise Kane the right way! Salute them Ancestors!

[@reneedennis2011]

Amen!

[@damianstarks3338]

This movie is childhood memories I can’t thank you enough for doing a video on this movie.

[@isaiahtrujillo1953]

Oh so your parents left this movie playing over and over on the TV as well

[@damianstarks3338]

@@isaiahtrujillo1953 no they did not I just came across this.

[@isaiahtrujillo1953]

Even better

[@madarauchiha-yc9hg]

t bag- prison break jax teller-sons of anarchy vic mackey-the shield

[@easportslegend]

I couldn’t agree with your statement even more.

[@seamusmoran4776]

Thank you for covering my favorite film of all time

[@madarauchiha-yc9hg]

suggestions t bag- prison break jax teller-sons of anarchy vic mackey-the shield

[@seamusmoran4776]

@@madarauchiha-yc9hg I've been asking for vic mackey for a while 😢

[@novaninja4252]

This is easily one of my favorite movies ever, I can't believe you're covering this. GOATED

[@madarauchiha-yc9hg]

suggestions t bag- prison break jax teller-sons of anarchy vic mackey-the shield

[@MrSFblack]

In Cain's last monologue, he says "I did too much to go back, and too much to go on". Those words go to show that the evil we put out into the world always have consequences. And those consequences have no expiration date, even if we've changed our lives for good.

[@IamSammich]

Those are the words that always make me shiver when I see this film.

[@Lucciii32]

🤡 evil/good are logical fallacies, I don’t think you understand the breakdown of this film or why it’s even being broken down. We only see this movie in a perspective of the main character Caine. Good and evil can only exist in the realm of perspective subjectively, but never objectively. In this movie the environmental setting is based on the aspects of humans closer to nature, which causes their psychology to be more PRIMAL than more developed fortunate areas where people seem to be more domestic as the word “human” categorizes an ANIMAL

[@frescocool1502]

I agree in contrast by saying Good and Bad happens to both Good and Bad people. It’s how life is, we just never know.

[@MrSFblack]

@@Lucciii32 That's not exactly true either, not every character in this movie is living on primal instinct and impulse. Ronnie isn't, Shareef isn't, neither is Shareef's father or Cain's grandparents. All of whom try to serve as a moral compass for the main character and others. So to see this movie as everyone is living like "animals" sounds like a severe misunderstanding of the film. Nor can it be said that there is no objective evil in this movie, since it starts off with an act of objective evil.

[@Lucciii32]

@@MrSFblack 😭😭😭objective evil doesn’t EXIST, not only in this movie but in reality itself. Neither does morality as it is subjective perspective of an individual that implements what they view as right or wrong.That’s the literal point of this KZbin channel dumbass. To give the perspective of characters perceived as “evil” in a way putting the audience in their shoes, as means to find logic/reasoning in their actions. Ronnie,Shareef and Kane’s grandparents all have the superstition of irrational/illogical belief, in which gives one’s mortality a meaning and sense of eternal existence. Also my point was never about the side characters in this movie, nor was the topic of this video, but more so the overall influences surrounding Kane’s environment and how experiencing these things shaped the perspective of the main character. Every character you mentioned has little to no effect on Kane’s influence or decisions such as the other side characters perceived “evil” such as O’dogg. It is not them who influence Kane into the decisions that lead to his detriment, as if they were the influence of “evil” Kane’s perception would be similar to theirs, in which we know in the movie that was never the case.

[@scifyry]

Platoon, in my opinion, is the military equivalent of Menace II Society. Theyre both full of grit, tension, and violence. No one wins. Both films do a good job of not romanticizing either situation but some individuals will.

[@Jaymack12]

Exactly.

[@kg-hg4qp]

Platoon is one of my top 3 fav army movies behind Fury and Svaing private ryan

[@Secondplanetfromthesun]

Do yall consider Dead Presidents and Vietnam movie?

[@scifyry]

​@Secondplanetfromthesun My opinion: I wouldn't go so far as to say a Vietnam movie, but the war has a significant impact on the main characters. It's a major plot device, though, since the war's impact moves the film's events forward. Great film!

[@b00biejingles]

@@Secondplanetfromthesun Dead Presidents overall is a hood movie with Act 2 taking place in Vietnam

[@jayDee92133]

It's so messed up Sharif got killed while he was the good one but O-Dog didn't get a scratch on him.

[@JohnDoe-vc5qb]

Life isn’t fair. Being good in a place where “evil” is king is not a good way to make it out alive, sadly.

[@myronsanders4563]

O Dogg got arrested for the Murder of the Korans in the beginning of the film

[@richardvasquez6746]

Usually how it goes.

[@mrc6808]

O dog gets arrested at the end

[@YoungYahtz94]

That’s how it goes in real life too smh the actual good folks get hurt while the foul ones live on

[@jayforeman5299]

The evil here is society itself and the apathy and lack of understanding we all can have towards problems that seem too hard or complicated to solve.

[@locochang6533]

That’s crap. These people are savage murderers. Their problems don’t justify ANY murders that happen in this movie.

[@giosbizarreart9048]

Lmao the reply to your comment is literally what you described 🤦🏾

[@locochang6533]

@@giosbizarreart9048 right. It's society's fault that odog killed a cashier... Also, the movie is called menace TO society. Not menace IS society. Odog and cain are the menace TO society.

[@shawnz5272]

The evil is not society but rather culture. Back home where my family is from its dirt poor and a war zone yet people there aren't murdering each other, selling drugs, raping people etc...... It's a cultural problem

[@brujodeathmetal]

@@locochang6533 It actually is a soceity's fault, the same ignorant reason your username contains the word 'loco' which is from spic-anish colonization, or the simple fact that everything that lead up this moment has been systemically built to keep the populous simple minded. People who are indentured in the lower socioeconomic status have no choice but to become a statistic or work as a clog in the machine serving no other purpose than being an alienated worker that only benefits the financial elite. Who also dictate the police and laws that are meant to only protect the rich and their property. People who raised in the ghettos have vary limited freedoms or opportunities as the video has addressed. Either work hard as functioning member or become a menace to soceity because of the injustices procured by the victors of history--critical thinking is the only way out.

[@jonathanrobison9667]

10:00 “it’s not healthy for any group of people to judge others based on the blanket assumption they have made of whichever group of people they belong to” probably one of the most powerful statements you have made across all of your videos, at least in my opinion. Thank you for another amazing video!

[@easportslegend]

This whole video was a jem I really appreciate how he broke this down and gave us a history recap with it as well

[@toyasmith5676]

It gave me the chills

[@pachacuti8403]

12% of the population and over 60% of violent crime. +ratio

[@patrick888881]

It keeps you alive, so if that isn't healthy then what is?

[@jonathanrobison9667]

@@patrick888881 that’s a shame, your statement basically reads as follows “segregation and profiling people is ok because it keeps you out of potential danger or harm”. I hope this isn’t what you meant, and if not you may want to elaborate on your original statement.

[@CBright7831]

The thing that always disturbed me is how casual the characters treated murder. One example is when the homeless drug addict gets shot down in cold blood by O-Dog and his friends do the equivalent of shrugging their shoulders while O-Dog offers them a food bag that presumably has a burger in it. That's not the only time that happens in the movie. While I did not grow up in that environment, I know and have spoken to a lot of people who have, and they say murder and death becomes a natural occurrence after a while.

[@LuffyBlack]

Yeah man I found my first body when I was in middle school, heard her get murdered and everything also knew kids who dads would flip and murder-suicide. The hood is no joke

[@frankwoods2599]

I knew a kid, he was like 15 and he got kilt for dissing hoods. The rivals in school were bragging about it, like it was some sort of game.

[@BodyBagginCrips]

@@LuffyBlack same but i was like 9-10. then i was addicted to seeing that shit💀

[@dannyolortegui3776]

I think O-Dog deserves his own video

[@Kyeuss]

Who would have thought Vile Eye would provide such a thorough and effective description of the American Black struggle and circumstances. So cool to see this channel continue to evolve.

[@JacksonAfroman]

⁠@hex schmex ignorance is bliss

[@cheshire_skatkat9093]

​@hex schmex absolutely

[@Vote4Vonster]

​@hex schmex Oh yes Mr. Anime profile picture that's most likely a white kid. Please tell me how exactly it's black people's fault for having less opportunities at a better life because of the hundreds of years of hatred and oppression?

[@Dwyanerose]

@Drshindigglydoo28191I hope all of you non black people have to live in the same conditions that black people were forced to live in..In the next life Y’all’s dismissive attitude whenever somebody just brings up basic history like redlining, Jim Crow, segregation, racist housing laws ext is disgusting and I hope y’all have to live through every injustice known to man since slavery…I despise all of y’all

[@Playa001]

@hex schmex We the first people ✊🏽 stay mad colonist.

[@wiseone1013]

I like this creator's style. He speaks rationally and always explains the character's POV clearly and concisely. Another excellent presentation, A+ 🤔

[@somebody0425]

I love the diversity of the villans you have been reviewing and that your going over more classics like this

[@UnofficialAnti-Ignorance]

It's just insane how even 30 years later, this film still hits home. I had moved to Canada, after watching this film upon release. It's really sad how things haven't changed for the better.

[@fernandofigueroa2408]

The worst enemies are ourselves.Even if we grew up on a bad environment it's up to us to make the decision.

[@stacistaci6657]

Great analysis. There aren’t many videos that analyze and go into the history behind black films. Thanks!

[@IrritationX]

Any calculus of evil in this film would be incomplete without analyzing the environment itself, and the system that maintains such an environment.

Absolitely. The system that kept them bound to that lifestyle was the true evil.

[@mecca777]

I don’t disagree with you, but O Dog was still a fucking psychopath.

[@BenHopkins1000]

And everyone is looking for someone to blame. The police, the politicians, the pimps, the pushers. What are they but tentacles from the same writhing beast?

[@cheshire_skatkat9093]

Oh jeesh! Gimmie a damn break. I was once hungry and without too. I didn't pick up no damn gun and run around acting stupid.

[@blacksmoke6292]

​@@cheshire_skatkat9093Unfortunately you're an anecdotal minority within this situation as your experience doesn't override the fact that Black Americans have the highest poverty rate, single motherhood, and a culture that glorify crime.

[@ets2446]

A great film to parallel with Menace ll Society would be Sugar Hill, and more specifically Raynathan's relationship with his brother Roemello. Such a gritty portrayal of growing up surrounded by crime and trying to get out of a lifestyle you've known for your entire life.

[@PrimmsHoodCinema]

Damn! Top tier analysis. I'm impressed 👏🏿👏🏿

[@rell0778]

You guys should collab

[@BakiNorthStar]

Yes Primms! 😁👊🏽

[@DotKom01]

I like how this movie doesn't pull punches. It goes for the real, raw, unfiltered violence that happens multiple times a day everyday but gets swept under the rug as a normal thing. The way that small things like Caine's hookup with Ilene, the subsequent beating of her cousin, and then suddenly what seems to be a smaller sub plot comes back to ruin everything at the very end is so tragic yet realistic. Something about the way it just focuses on the characters lives as crazy shit is happeneing, rather than feeling like its focusing solely on the crazy shit, makes it feel so real. There is not a scene wasted in this movie, everything is either the beginning or ending of something.

[@Chief-et6xk]

Different layers

[@PracticeMakesPaper]

Definately the greatest hood movie of all time

[@KenDaKingArrives]

The fact that they offer us his perspective but don't reveal (and only infer) that it's from beyond the grave...wow

[@kwadwotuffour5529]

I believe we're supposed to think all that flashed through his mind right before he died

[@KenDaKingArrives]

@@kwadwotuffour5529 The reason I believed this was from beyond the grave was because of his final line: "My grandfather once asked me if I cared whether or not I lived or died. Turns out I do, *now it's too late* ." I do agree it's plausible that he thought this just as he felt himself slipping towards death and realized he wasn't suriving this, because he says "I do" rather than "I *did* "

[@Chuck_EL]

@@KenDaKingArrives it's a very nice nod to scary and thriller shorts from comics like Tales from the Crypt, novels or short films where the narrator is telling the audience a cautionary tale from the grave that is always left ambiguous but hinted at towards the end

[@popeyebogey209]

Growing up on the South Side of Chicago inner city the way you articulated this is nothing short of a masterclass 😮

[@DJ-iu5bb]

Crazy cause O Dogg from the Go too

[@popeyebogey209]

@@DJ-iu5bb Damn I didn't know that 😳

[@northeastokwari1889]

Yeah but Larenz Tate was still mistaken for a Grape Street Crip by Grape Street crips so i know the gang culture in Chicago is way different and always was but in 93 it must have been more similar than now i mean the Chicago gangs had bandannas you just usually had two colors instead of 1. Something Graoe Street has in common and your gangs wore plaid it just didn't get crack until the 90's rather than the 80's since Chicago gangs thought crack would cut into their coke profits strangely enough. But there was like 3000 Grape Streets so it is entirely possible to be from the same gang and not know somebody else so that's probably why they thought he was but he was doing his hood act based on his Chicago experience but it was similar enough to Grape St

[@brandontaylor2772]

You gotta do Bishop from Juice and Franklin Saint from Snowfall. Both are very interesting characters.

[@brandyburke5325]

Oh Saint would be a really good one to see…he was really losing it at the end! Awesome suggestion!

[@lagronemikal]

@@brandyburke5325 Bishop still screaming "Riverside motherfucker!" Would love to see a video on Bishop and Juice.

[@GUSX4NMAN]

Teddy McDonald would be a dope analysis

[@TSPOWELL89]

And Nino Brown from New Jack City

[@enigma7310]

*Whats really scary about this movie is that things like this are still happening today...*

[@brendaspence1824]

These movies were warnings and pictures into what is happening at the time……and nothing has changed Who is at fault? Both the black community,AND the system responsible for it.

[@enigma7310]

@@brendaspence1824 Black People wouldn't be so messed up including to EACHOTHER if the system didn't break them....

[@locochang6533]

@@brendaspence1824 riiiiiight. The system is responsible for odog blasting a cashiers head off, right?

[@brendaspence1824]

@@locochang6533 rewatch the vid slow brain

[@bigman88george3]

@@locochang6533 no. But the sys to em is responsible for creating a toxic, poisonous environment that result in the increase of liklihood of a violent mindset.

[@Starlenaa_]

LOVEEE how unbiased you were in transferring that message

[@zackhicks5320]

What a perfect breakdown of this movie and it’s background. Watched this movie so many times with my dad growing up, always loved it

[@caryknight996]

Yes, absolutely, and I love how the film depicted from a gang members' perspective and give insight into how they become who they are. That's why I think it's the most iconic gang movie.

[@miroki6308]

I think it’s crazy being when I was younger and growing up some of my homies wanted to be like O-Dog. Like wtf he’s a literal Menace

[@Someone_Unknown90]

This the comment I was looking for bro I would argue that most black teen boys go thru this faze where they for some odd reason(me as well) wanted to be not like but viewed like O-Dog. People really didn’t fear him as much as they just saw him as a force of nature. It sounds cringe but it’s the same reason kids listen to King Von and YB. It feels pretty good to be a villain.

[@nadiaromantini8836]

In other words, he's kind of like a literally me character for black kids. Not too dissimilar from edgy white kids admiring figures like Tyler Durden and other sorts of anti-heroes.

[@miroki6308]

@@Someone_Unknown90 nah bro it’s doesn’t sound cringe, trust me I understand. You right people looked up to Von like that too

[@Someone_Unknown90]

@@nadiaromantini8836 EXACTLYYYYYY, I was just about to say bruh every boy goes through this phase where there intrinsic thoughts just take over and they wanna be the bad guy. Johnny Cash, Clint Eastwood, Goodfellas, Scarface, Pablo Escobar even though he was a literal terrorist. But honestly I blame hoes NOT WOMEN but the hoes cause they egg that shit specially on and more horrifically they know how to do it without even saying a word. You get embarrassed by a bunch of hoes in front of the whole party, I swear you wanna become a menace that instant.

[@KOCChristian]

Cause O Dog wasn’t afraid of anyone he seem have power over his life, giving justice to those who do wrong in his law. He’s no different than a Judge Dredd or Cowboy from Wild West. But since he’s lives in a modern society he’s viewed as a monster. Which is true but relatable is fair.

[@hippipdip]

I love telling people, “I feel sorry for your mother” and they never know what I’m talking about 😂

[@brandonjays9051]

I watched this alone when I was 5 years old. And followed the story well enough as you’d expect a kid to do. “I feel sorry for your moma” was such a warrant for a bullet at the time I didn’t flinch at o dogs response. I watched it recently after 20 years and I’m upset Cain was pretty much killed for using a condom. Goes to show how good a movie it is. Such a good character dead by senseless violence!

[@erickghoul174]

If you honestly thought a comment like that warranted a double murder, then I feel sorry for your momma

[@kevinhickssubstitutes6350]

Cain was killed for stompin oh girl “cousin” out, plain and simple! That got shareef killed too.

[@bigshorty4855]

Bro, at that age, I had seen the exorcist 😂. Honestly aliens was more scary at 7 with only my younger sister with me parents out at midnight. Had to wait outside the toilet door cause my lil sis (6 at the time) was too scared to walk to the toilet by herself that night. Not to mention, the toilet door was next to the door leading outside. Funny note, I accidentally rented faces of death at 8. Thought it was a futuristic Sci fi movie with the guy and his helmet. Turned out to be the electric chair helmet... 😂.

[@drygimangdrminjak8177]

​@@erickghoul174whatchu say bout my mumma?

[@nicholsdeshan]

This been my favorite movie since I was in kindergarten and momma used to try and hide this and Boyz N The Hood

[@Dkvizu]

Finally my request had been answered.

[@khaliffreeman6694]

Here’s your cookie 🍪

[@newthrash1221]

Wow, I absolutely did not expect you to do a video on this movie. It's my favorite movies of its genre.

[@jayxtacee5695]

This movie is so powerful that it stuck with me from the first time I saw it when I was 8 back in 1994. It hits from the start

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

M2S was one of my earliest suggestions for this channel and the reason why is because both Menace II Society and Boyz In The Hood showcase that the environment can change anyone and also you can let that lifestyle consume you and you become evil or you can escape and find some light elsewhere and the sad thing about both films is that there are those who try to escape and right as they are about to they get gunned down for little to no reason at all and that light was put out and what makes these films great is that how close to reality it is.

[@dreal500]

I have to say this is an EXCELLENT break down of Menace to society! Great work!

[@kgizzle92]

Thank you for giving a real, nuanced view of the complex issue of crime and poverty in Black communities!

[@locochang6533]

Right. It’s all the white mans fault. A white man made o dog blast a cashier..

[@missvida6251]

Caused by black people

[@RickTheBoss98]

I'm not from America do not understand but who was committing the violence

[@Isaiah_Drake]

⁠@@RickTheBoss98Your question is restrictive. You’re looking for one main cause when the purpose was to explain the links that created the issues. Multiple constantly changing mindsets and outside forces led to so much strife that we Americans as whole still face to this day. In the film in this story there were multiple people in this neighborhood hurting each other murders robberies there wasn’t 1 specific person or group committing the violence. That isn’t what the film is about. It explores the harsh realities of living in this area and the influences that fucked it up

[@RickTheBoss98]

@@Isaiah_Drake so the group complaining about the violence are also the group committing violence that's a very interesting problem I wonder if this same group in other geographical locations follow the same pattern of behaviour oh that's interesting I just research that it doesn't appear to my photo if this group of people are in France Belgium Canada Australia Nigeria South Africa they seem to commit violence then complain the area is violence extremely interesting situation I'm just playing it's all love

[@Benjy1]

This is one of my favorite episodes. This movie is legendary and your analysis was spot on. You’re definitely invited to the cookout

[@TheVileEye]

Appreciate it friend, and I never miss a cook out, I’ll be there.

[@Chief-et6xk]

​@@TheVileEye 😂😂😂😂

[@JasonEdwards12]

@TheVileEye 2pac as Bishop in juice was pure wicked, that be a good episode; have you ever saw street smart with Morgan Freeman? He plays an evil,ruthless pimp ,you should check it out, many don't know about this film, one of the most wicked characters I ever seen

[@Chuck_EL]

​​​@@TheVileEye I'm glad you brought up the CIA intentionally putting in plants as drug kingpins (Rick Ross) in most inner cities during the 1970s-80s It needs to be stressed to those ignorant to what has happened since then

[@k-ondoomer]

This was my first dvd i bought with my own money at the age of 14 or so, not the best acting, but the mood of the ghetto is so perfectly captured, as well as the system that turns ordinary lives into tragedies

Glad you're covering this. O Dog was surely a menace, but by no fault of his own (well, his choices to engage in certain actions were his fault, but he never knew any other way). Anyone can become a monster living in the kind of environment he was immersed in his whole life. Anyone would be angry and uncaring.

[@Connect200]

Same with Hilter.

[@nawfslim]

You gotta be like that to be honest even before he killed anybody, people would talk crazy about him if something happened to him

[@BJJfrkrbls]

This movie brought so much to light. Society, from way back when, was the real villain here.

[@chrisb7831]

I appreciate how this channel covers everything, all types characters and stays balanced in every entry. Thank you.

[@tjtharp603]

I watch this movie every Halloween 🎃. It still scares the crap out of me to this day 😨

[@jeremyblackwater439]

You view this as a horror movie? You from the hood?

[@TheMasterQuests]

Juice is a horror movie. A hood horror movie

[@tjtharp603]

@@jeremyblackwater439 yes it is more scary to me than most horror movies. I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks and I saw similar events

[@jeremyblackwater439]

@@tjtharp603 oh ok I’m from the hood and saw similar but I was wondering if you were watching from an outsider’s perspective. I understand now

[@ChocolateThaiE]

@@tjtharp603 I feel the same way about this movie. I went with my cousin to see it when it came out. Scared the shit out of me then. I was around 7 or 8. I’ve only seen it once or twice since then. I can’t. That last line and scene when Caine’s life was flashing before his eyes did something to my spirit lol.

[@aaronmurrayvazquez]

the moment when the Vile Eye teaches more about Black American struggles through historical context and policies decisions than any public school

[@ninanimble3883]

This particular topic in relation to the movie, and the evil that it portrays, was wonderfully handled by you. As an African American who grew up in similar circumstances, who has friends who followed the cycle of drugs and lower standards and lesser options, you’ve managed to summarize a good chunk of the core of it with a grace I rarely see. Nicely done.

[@KenyaTheMighty]

This movie was quite powerful when I first watched it and it definitely still is. Even though I haven't experienced the things that Kane and the people around him have endured, I've seen what happens when people within the Black community are influenced by gangster culture and the violence that either surrounds them or may have been inflicted by. Your video is wonderfully explanatory and I agree immensely that it's never too late to change who you are and the environment around you. This film is underrated and highly recommended without a doubt.

[@LycanVisuals]

First time i saw this i felt bad for the friend helping them out in the ending. Who you associate with matters greatly.

[@jayfreeman5117]

While I don’t justify the crimes that O-Dogg and Caine committed, I feel bad for them especially the latter. These two never stood a chance in life because they were direct products of their environments and only found a way out when it was too late.

[@_Jay_Maker_]

Nah. Like we see at the end, Caine could've chosen a better life for himself way before things ended up the way they did. That proves that they're not "products of their environment," they're _more_ than that, but they choose to live that life because they believed, for most of the film, that it was all they could do. Saying they're "products of their environment" is just an excuse to blame their situation and the consequences on something other than two men making bad decisions in life.

[@joeblow5658]

​@@_Jay_Maker_ 💯 correct

[@chill_will9816]

​@@_Jay_Maker_ You acknowledge that they're actions were a result of them believing they had no other options than crime but balk at the idea that they're products of their environment. wtf, did your brain break there or something

[@redsun7223]

@@_Jay_Maker_ Saying someone is a product of their environment doesn’t excuse any of their actions. It provides reasoning for how their decision making could be impacted. You said it yourself they believed it was all they could do. And that’s because they grew up an environment where most people didn’t have any hope and were surrounded by the same cycle of evil

[@hclw3589]

⁠@@_Jay_Maker_ You’re both wrong. In saying that the two are products of their environment it removes personal autonomy from these characters making them seem more innocent than they are. But with saying they could’ve just made better choices is disingenuous and ignores that where you come up from and where you live does affect you and it shouldn’t be discounted in understanding why a person makes their decisions they make.

[@rhall149]

Sharif was one of the best characters in this movie. He was a loyal friend and stayed by Harold even though he was long dead, and after all of that he just dies at the end 😭

[@DAILMCDAVID]

Which I hated I DESPISE Illenas ugly cousin for costing Sharif his life as a innocent bystander Caine was bad luck all around especially around decent people

[@mitcheltheman1366]

If Caine didn't fuck with Ilena in the first place, he'd still be alive in Atlanta. A-Wax told him too.

[@123dan165]

It's really sad but he has to take responsibility. Believe you me I understand where your coming from, my family told me to go a university/college back despite me having the grades to go elsewhere in 2017, and I've done nothing but suffered greatly since. But whilst I suffered greatly I decided to not remain a victim and take accountability for my mistakes and be a better man for myself.

[@dannyolortegui3776]

I've been thinking about this movie a LOT lately, then the Vile Eye does an analysis on it. Incredible!

[@CheriseMonetFilmmaking]

I noticed you’ve been covering more diverse villains too. Love it!

[@Exxperiment626]

Careful! Some whites might deem that as 'woke' and start hating 😂

[@DJ-iu5bb]

Yeah he will do something like Stringer Bell from The Wire

[@dommyboysmith]

@@DJ-iu5bb he already did. Just a few weeks ago

[@davidbutler1622]

But he’s yet to cover any gay villains so cancel him

[@JayCity10]

It's inevitable, that he will do Rico from Paid N Full, God from In Too Deep, Frank Lucas from American Gangster, and Nino Brown from New Jack City respectively. I mean how can you leave these brutal kingpins off of something like this.

[@Christopher-tq9hf]

I love this channel the range and depth he goes into each character in every video is magnificent

[@anthonyogletree6660]

I just knew you'd do this film justice. Great breakdown my guy!

[@braylondunlap5630]

What scares me about this movie is that its so relatable. Every black person knows someone like o dog, someone who just doesnt give a fuck about anything.

[@Mavenger1845]

That is not true

[@assassincreed2087]

Franklin saint from snowfall, Abel turner from Lakeview terrace, Thor Gunderson from hell on wheels are excellent candidates

[@stephenlanoue5041]

on the topic of Lakeview Terrace watch Ray Liotta in Unlawful Entry that could be an ep (if you run dry i guess)

[@boxingpedia]

I forgot about Lakeview Terrace 😭

[@nursekayc9255]

I appreciate you telling the whole story by starting with the background!!

[@reneedennis2011]

So do I.

[@LaunchPadMcQuack4Hire]

This really was an awesome one! The historic overview in the beginning was really great context! I even learned a couple things!

[@73clementines]

Saw it 3 times (twice at the drive in) when it came out. I assume it’s so underrated because it was in the same vein as other urban flicks, but none were as close as being as raw and realistic as this one. The production, majority of the acting, lighting, everything was on point. Especially considering the Hughes brothers were fresh out of college and extremely young. Kudos to them. I’m pretty sure this was their first film. That’s absolutely remarkable, but again, I’m biased because this is one of my favorite films of all time. One of my best friends was kind of Kane-lite, and this was in Chicago, not LA, so I definitely respect the realism of this movie. They could teach a class from this movie.

[@TheForbiddenChode]

I remember me and my friends used to shoplift until my mom caught me. Instead of whooping me like usual she forced me to sit down and watch this movie.

[@josephnuma9548]

That's funny but yea it shows the message ig

[@BiigiieCheeese]

O-Dog would be menace regardless of social-economic status. He kills literally anyone for any reason

[@antgriff4]

No lie I've never heard this so eloquently put I really appreciate this on so many levels

[@kwadwotuffour5529]

Wow, i like the switchup you did on this one...talking about community/environment/circumstances rather than an individual. O-Dog wasn't really a mastermind, so it made sense to not really focus on just him. Excellent job in detailing the different things that led up to what we see in the movie. You talked about the circumstances yet you also talked about each person's personal accountability.

[@massmanpro]

I gotta admit I did not expect such a reasonable and astute break down of this film coupled with the real life struggles of Black Americans from this channel. You've earned my subscription 👍🏾

[@brianhoward5509]

Do you think every black American grew up this way?

[@supadupa6891]

@@brianhoward5509he didn't say every. But it definitely exist.

[@brianhoward5509]

@@supadupa6891 Black criminals exist? I know.

[@rd24life]

I lived in LA in the 90s. Disturbingly, this film is pretty accurate to the gang attitude that existed then

[@brendanmuller7301]

Actually did a good job explaining why many are the way they are and why we tend to be discriminatory or wary around themm

[@FUCKINGDOUG]

@@mrogun1974 thats racist

[@NicolasOtero-w1q]

I can tell by this comment that you didn't have many friends as a kid😂😂😂😂😂

[@NicolasOtero-w1q]

You'd never yap like that to anyone's face

[@josefernan7881]

​@@NicolasOtero-w1qDude really going down the thread, copy/pasting this same comment. 😂

[@josefernan7881]

​@@NicolasOtero-w1qThis from the alternate-account that was made this month? 😂👌

[@tylers6611]

This was a more a better and realistic film than Boys in the hood to me. As a person who had a brother killed in the streets it really hits home for me

[@justafanofnerdculture7602]

Sorry for your loss. RIP to your brother. 🙏

[@TheTrueNarthumpulous]

Boys in the Hood was way too preachy. This movie was more honest for sure.

[@stephenlanoue5041]

yeah, this movie makes Boyz in the Hood look like utter dog shit. Boyz in the Hood always felt like a made for TV movie compared to this. just some great cinematography from the Hughes Brothers

[@grapeshot]

Interesting I've heard people say Boyz in the Hood was very realistic to them. But I know Boyz-n-the-Hood wasn't as nearly as violent as this movie is. I guess that's the appeal.

[@victorherrera6714]

I feel the opposite.. this movie was cheesy and the characters had no redeeming qualities at all

[@sh0eh0rn4]

you did such an amazing job of giving the facts about the socioeconomic context of LA at the time. so much of what you said is still true today. thank you for your work on this.

[@joshuawilliams8252]

I would strongly suggest looking into "The Color Purple," particularly Danny Glover's character Mister/Albert. He is just a straight-up vile person and could be an interesting breakdown.

[@reneedennis2011]

I agree.

[@theshogunblaze3656]

OMG YOU FINALLY COVERED THIS CLASSIC! I’ve been asking since I discovered ur channel last year I’d given up hope long ago but thank u so much for this gift 🙏🏾

[@Str0b3l]

Love analysis of these oldschool classics

[@howardjohnson5210]

Very well analyzed… the vile eye explains the whole issue within the black communities & people.. I went to the theater to see this film & not only was it good but also dipicts the way blacks we’re living.. what’s going on in the streets & how DANGEROUS it is & how easy young black kids grow up watching their parents or relatives do in the streets & be influenced by them becoming the same as them. I learn from watching this & others should the same… good analysis… respect

[@slinkbradshaw8674]

This movie is an absolute classic.

[@kevin_mccree]

Thank you for covering this film! I like how you covered the historical context of the conditions that led to a domino effect which was the violence and misery that happened in this film which unfortunately is happening to this day in cities all over the US. This is my favorite episode.

[@losodinero]

Whoever is in control of this channel is super intelligent when it comes to social behaviors and habits.

[@xHiGHK]

Goosebumps at the end, you know how to analyze things. Keep doing this man, I'm sure it'll help some people someway

[@hamacus]

This movie was my reality Never knew about Executive Order 8802. Makes sense along with the rest of the underlying history. I grew up in South Central L.A. and remember the Watts Riots. As someone who grew up in the Hood and supposedly made it out I appreciate your analysis. Still so many injustices occurring it is hard to remain hopeful but one has to believe that a way must be made. The Audacity of hope is a real thing.

[@LloydsSky9]

A Chinese Business owner in a Black Neighborhood will go over most people's head. Historically buffer classes were brought in by the government to undermine Black Wealth acquisition. This whole movie paints an accurate picture of an oppressive cycle that the Government manufactured. Great Video BTW.

[@kaumealexander9581]

No they weren't. You're the Asian hate that the msm should've been talking about.

[@heffegaming]

Yep, the Chinese and middle eastern communities profit off our backs till this very day. While they hate us, but they love our spending habits. Dr umar be tryna wake us up

[@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564]

*Korean

[@cashwat210]

If you’re going to push a racial agenda, at least try to understand that not every Asian person is “Chinese.”

[@BubbyBold]

@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 Korean my brother in Christ, they were Korean.

[@andynarain672]

You need to do an analysis of Loc-Dog of "Don't Be a Menace to Society" 😂

[@Wanjiro81]

This was excellent. I grew up in a similar environment, so this film resonated with me when it debuted.

[@dayungunna]

A great movie with a great cast and a powerful message. One of the best movies of the 90's that didn't get the recognition it deserved. I've watched this movie plenty of times as a kid and adult and used it as a tool to not want that life. It really is all about choices, despite the circumstances of the environment. Keep ya nose clean, it really was/is a matter of life and death.

[@gregoryjones1426]

What an awesomely unbiased explanation of the problems in the black community of Los Angeles. Well done!

[@locochang6533]

Gang violence is number 1 problem in black community

[@thtnig]

I love your channel and have watched every episode, even the movies I hadn’t seen because of your in depth, fact based and unbiased commentary! This has been my favorite episode this far! As an African American man born in the mid-80s Washington DC, I can whole heartedly attest to every minute of this video. We are truly not all bad, just like any other race. I’ve come across and know personally, some of the coolest cops ever and have also been innocently on the wrong side of a fair share of interactions with bad people, not cops, so I can not group them all the together because it simply wouldn’t be true. People’s experiences, environment and education are what shape their perspectives which then drives their actions. Though they shape us (people) they don’t have to define us.

[@pedrosolitario6532]

11:06 Jada: “These beautiful locks are NEVER going anywhere” 😏

[@adonisvictorious3649]

There is a fan theory on the internet that O-Dog wasn't a real person, but Cain's subconscious dark side. In the vain of Fight Club...

[@blackfindave4722]

U did great by explaining the movie from its different aspects,the real consequences of environment affect you even if u are not part of it, however the only way to be safe is to get out from it and do whatever it takes u to do , thanks for the explanation u did a great job as always

[@uomodonore245]

This movie would hold up today even though it was made in 1993! Still great after 30 years! Amazing movie!

[@javorislittle312]

This and Boyz in the Hood are by far the best mirror of life in the ghetto. They don't glamorize it, its just a reflection of life with plenty of lessons and that's why it's a classic.

[@staceymeans134]

Genuine intellectual integrity in this analysis. While the simplest description of O-Dog is "a black Tommy DeVito" , merely targeting him as the most evil of the cast wouldn't be entirely inaccurate, the decision to analyze the full landscape of his situation and of the others is the more honest path to take and I praise you for doing so.

[@hatb36]

Absolute classic.Arguably the best hood movie ever

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Hey man! Love the "hello everyone" is such an amazing opening!🎉🎉