Analyzing Evil: Thanos From The MCU

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The Vile Eye

The Vile Eye

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@TheVileEye
@TheVileEye 2 жыл бұрын
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@BeauIsLoomfraid
@BeauIsLoomfraid 2 жыл бұрын
nah
@jonathanbeets397
@jonathanbeets397 2 жыл бұрын
I got so many of my friends to watch your channel because of these breakdowns. You do great work man.
@yujirohanma8880
@yujirohanma8880 2 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do a John Wick villain?
@emmetturey4417
@emmetturey4417 2 жыл бұрын
Can u do viktor next
@HILAL19564
@HILAL19564 2 жыл бұрын
Nice choice. Somehow totally forgot about him. Easily one of the best villains in cinema history imo
@hankfortwel
@hankfortwel 2 жыл бұрын
While a good analysis, I think you overlooked something that A LOT of people have overlooked with MCU Thanos: His ego. His ego, to me, is firmly why he's a villain. In listening to how he talks about his plan and what inspired it, there's this lingering sense of spite and pettiness to it. "They called me a madman and what I predicted came to pass." He has it in his head that if they just listened to him, everything would've worked out. If only they just recognized him instead of writing him off and realized he was right. If only they listened. That's the thing about Thanos and his "logic" regarding his plans. Most of his arguments boil down to "I'm right." Endgame, while presenting a younger Thanos for most of the runtime, really shows what actually drives him. When the Avengers ambush Present Thanos at the beginning of the film, what does he say? "You should be grateful!" and when he expresses his plans to shred down the universe and rebuild it, he caps it off by proclaiming that it would be "a grateful universe." Even when discussing his plans to Strange in IW, he mentions that he would watch the sun rise on a "grateful universe." For all his logic and faux compassion, that's what matters to Thanos, that he be finally recognized as the one who knew how to save everyone. This is evident in his first scene in IW, "I know what it's like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're RIGHT, yet to fail, nonetheless." To me, this just shows that at the end of the day, Thanos is still burned by the fact that he was written off as a madman. This is why, for such a compassionate sounding and seemingly run-by-logic being, he has such flashes of sadism and spite when personally involved in battle and murder. This is why each time we see him shredding planets, we always hear Maw hyping him up about what an honor it is to be "saved" by him. Because it isn't run by logic or compassion anymore, but a desire to finally be seen as right all along. Whether or not Thanos realizes this is up for debate, but to me, this is who Thanos was by the end: a spiteful and petty being who wanted to BE right instead of DO right.
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
He's the worst type of villains the type who would kill innocent children, women, old folks pretending it's for a greater good...with his dumb ego...
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, he's got narcissistic personality disorder, too! Good one!
@byronmeir1240
@byronmeir1240 2 жыл бұрын
@@contrafidem884 I was just thinking that as well.He's a prime example of a cluster B personally disorder.
@trevorhunt9547
@trevorhunt9547 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, once I heard the idea wasn't that Thanos WAS right, but that he had an all-consuming need to PROVE he was right, a lot of inconsistencies fell into place.
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevorhunt9547 he may even be right but that doesn't give him the right to kill innocent people pretending it was for the greater good, that's only his God complex..
@samuellaakso7012
@samuellaakso7012 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of killing Loki, I love this small piece of dialogue at the beggining of IW, where Loki claims himself as Odins son. As he has forgiven Odin and accepts himself as his heir. And nobody is forcing him to do that. Thanos doens't give two sh*ts for how Loki sees himself. It's almost more like an apology to Thor for everything he has put them trough. Just a small piece of dialogue but I think it adds so much to the scene and to Loki.
@someone2746
@someone2746 2 жыл бұрын
“…A man with a will that can’t be broken is destined to either succeed or die trying…” Well said about the character and in general.
@Lenxs.alightmotion
@Lenxs.alightmotion 3 ай бұрын
Thanos unironically did both
@jmsmith1767
@jmsmith1767 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos being somewhat soft spoken and measured was always more menacing than a loud barking screaming monster.
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 Жыл бұрын
That's why he's a compelling villain. He isn't angry at the world or the people he's fighting. He is a man with a goal in mind and WILL achieve that goal no matter what. It's why his victory was all but assured in Infinity War. He was so focused and confident (and inherently stronger than the heroes in 1 on 1 situations), having the stones just made him unstoppable. But in Endgame, he lets his emotions take over and is no longer focused on his goal, and instead grows some hatred towards the people he's fighting, leading to many mistakes which cause him to lose.
@JackGamer45-vi2ni
@JackGamer45-vi2ni Жыл бұрын
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 both of them are evil and lack on empathy.
@BlazingDragonCathateWolf-gx7lh
@BlazingDragonCathateWolf-gx7lh 9 ай бұрын
He is a bad man with no goal in mind he is a selfish not so well weak extremist. Both of them are lack of empathy and murder trillions. hypocrite.
@Elojordino1767-tu8ct
@Elojordino1767-tu8ct 9 ай бұрын
@@BlazingDragonCathateWolf-gx7lh He also blind.
@Gadget-Women2.0-n3p
@Gadget-Women2.0-n3p 4 ай бұрын
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 hE ISN'T A MAN U FOOL HJE STILL A MOSNTER.
@mauriciovillegas7285
@mauriciovillegas7285 2 жыл бұрын
One defining characteristic is that when the second Thanos knows he lost, he just sits down and waits for the inevitable. No cursing, no rage, just a last moment of personal peace.
@iamjulian2810
@iamjulian2810 2 жыл бұрын
« Personal peace » lol
@kokayinewsome9308
@kokayinewsome9308 Жыл бұрын
I respect that. Most villains would rage and scream. He accepted it. A more mature and God like end to a villain.
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 Жыл бұрын
Because he knows his failure is due to his own ego. If he had just remained in a level-headed demeanor like in Infinity War, he would come out on top every time. Dr. Strange found the 1 timeline where Thanos lost his cool.
@zumabbar
@zumabbar Жыл бұрын
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 i dont think Thanos thought of that. He just accepted that he lost.
@nickdwyer1451
@nickdwyer1451 Жыл бұрын
Thanos was cursed with knowledge. There wasn’t much that could shock him anymore.
@thmistrapillay1811
@thmistrapillay1811 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos's dedication to what he believes is his purpose is what makes him engaging as a villain
@pauljimerson8218
@pauljimerson8218 2 жыл бұрын
Hes all in for sure
@dntwasteit8547
@dntwasteit8547 2 жыл бұрын
The best kind of villain is a villain that always thinks that what he’s doing is the right thing no matter what.
@Drifterado
@Drifterado 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say, by definition, he was the Protagonist in Infinity War. He had all the tropes of one and even succeeded in his mission where the Avengers failed.
@arthand7672
@arthand7672 2 жыл бұрын
That's one thing I love about him as a character. On paper, he's just a warlord using child soldiers to gain power and commit genocide. But he's been around long enough to use his "wisdom" to convince himself that no matter how cruel he acts, he's doing the right thing. The children he kidnapped and forced to fight for him, he believes he loves them even though he doesn't bat an eye as 4 of the 6 are killed, tortures another and kills another one himself to complete "his mission" We see his cruelty time and time again, and hear it discussed in greater detail like the cyberization of nebula or the genocide of the dwarves. The dude is evil, but he not only convinced himself that his goals were noble but good chunk of the audience. And when you watch the eternals and learn more about his origin... it's even more tragic because he could have used that wisdom and skill for good had he not been broken in the way he was
@xBen_III
@xBen_III 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what makes him all the more terrifying in Infinity War.
@20marvelman
@20marvelman 2 жыл бұрын
I would say he definitely enjoyed testing those he came into conflicts with. All the hostages situations, were for him to prove the avengers/guardians weren’t really willing to lose it all for the stones. Peter with Gamora, torturing Nebula for Gamora, Strange and Iron man. I think with Wanda, she may have been someone he tried taking up as a “Child of Thanos” seeing how he even comforts her after she destroys Vision, respecting her for actually going through with losing someone for their cause
@keviscool
@keviscool 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, nice perspective
@lokir9959
@lokir9959 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos definitely did enjoy his tests as can be seen with the whole Peter and Gamora instance. He could’ve just taken her and fled but he purposely delayed his plans to see if Peter was willing to do what was necessary. Pragmatically it was a waste of time but his own sadism and curiosity allowed him to spare a few minutes to lay out his tests. If I had to guess I think he likes to put people in difficult positions just to see how many of them possess a similar will to his. He likes to compare himself to others and if they respond how he would he offers approval, like how he said he liked Peter after he tried to shoot Gamora. Ultimately it’s an ego trip and a sadistic exercise. Thanos wants to feel assured that he is one of the few people in the galaxy who can bear what he plans to do.
@primetimemagic15
@primetimemagic15 2 жыл бұрын
"I understand my child--better than anyone"
@akeelyaqub2538
@akeelyaqub2538 2 жыл бұрын
Quil did fire at gamora though, thanos even says "i like him" after. I fully agree thanos was testing their will and how far they would go in their goals and measure their wills against his own, but Quil definitely passed his test.
@deenaiman8743
@deenaiman8743 2 жыл бұрын
The other one that Thanos did test was Loki. When he asked for the Tesseract, he was threatening Loki to kill Thor. He did that as he would like to see how strong is Loki "willingness" in terms of hiding the Tesseract. That's why he was enjoying the dilemma that Loki was having, either save Thor and give up the Tesseract or the other way around.
@Zygothknightlord
@Zygothknightlord 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos , Darth Vader, Palpatine and Joker are my most favorite movie villains.
@lilvirgo1
@lilvirgo1 8 ай бұрын
Syndrome from the incredibles is a damn good one too; he too was close to completing his plans but was lost to his idol that rejected him as a kid not understanding the dangers of hero work.
@gabagool_and_psychiatry4856
@gabagool_and_psychiatry4856 12 күн бұрын
cyrus the virus from con air
@cleanserofnoobs4162
@cleanserofnoobs4162 2 жыл бұрын
I feel Thanos in Endgame is very diffrent from the one we got in Infinite war. In Endgame, he seems less compassionate, more cruel and wicked. He even says he'll enjoy stopping earth.
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 2 жыл бұрын
Because he’s already seen himself win. Thus he gains a different level of ego and impatience that leads to his downfall. That’s typically why he causes his own downfall in the comics as well. He gets overzealous and let’s his ego cloud his judgment. He miscalculates and causes his own downfall. When he is on his game like in IW he is nigh unstoppable. Once he lets his guard down, he’s beatable.
@IN-tm8mw
@IN-tm8mw 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheIcemanthomas true, also another reason for his downfall was his need for a "counter force" to his argument. He intentionally wanted to see how the universe would defend itself or push back his ideology. This is why he find Tony Stark to be a worthy rival. He wanted the ultimate victory of ideology, he wanted the universe to throw everything at him and win.
@x-rex7236
@x-rex7236 2 жыл бұрын
I once read a comment that made a intriguing point that what if Infinity War is what we are witnessing the whole journey from Thanos's point of view and Endgame is what we are viewing the journey from the Avengers's point of view
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 жыл бұрын
uhhhhhhhhh no. He's not, it's just Endgame just showcases his TRUE SELF. I really LOVED the way they did Thanos in Endgame. I didn't see it as a betrayal of his established character so much as a revelation of his true nature. Thanos says he's saving the universe, and I think he believes it, but at the same time his actions don't always quite mesh with his stated ideals. He claims to be motivated by mercy and benevolence, but he clearly enjoys messing with people (specifically, he enjoys having total power over others) -- first, when he takes the time to bare-knuckle box with the Hulk (which Maw explicitly says is for fun), and later when he completely unnecessarily torments both Starlord and Gamorra, forcing Starlord to have to choose to kill her before revealing that he himself was in control the whole time. My feeling about Thanos is that he's a lot like Light Yagami, who claims to be sacrificing himself to make a better world, but in reality is just a psychopathic serial killer with a literal god complex. He uses and betrays the people who trust him without a trace of remorse -- in fact, he pretty clearly enjoys what he's doing, one time going so far as to tell his victim who he was -- just so he could see her reaction when she realized she was going to die. In summary, my impression of Thanos is that he's basically an exaggerated take on an abusive parent figure -- most easily seen by his relationship with his "children," most notably Nebula. He claims to act on others' behalf, to be making the"grown up" decisions that no one else can or will, but every time he encounters resistance (with the apparent exception of Gamorra) he reacts with vengeful spite, the hallmark of a bruised pride. So it's hardly any surprise that when Thanos encounters defiance -- in his mind, ungratefulness for his salvation -- that he immediately reverts to punishing, stripping down, and rebuilding the universe just like he's been doing to Nebula all along. (I promised myself I was done rambling, but I have one thing left to add: this side of Thanos is why he destroys the stones in the first place. He originally thought he would settle for wiping out half of all life, but once he found himself alone with his thoughts he realized that the temptation to keep using them would inevitably be too great. He doesn't destroy them to protect us from some other villain. He destroys them to protect us from himself. -- The best example of Thanos' true character in Infinity War is directly after he beats down the Hulk. When he kills Loki for failing him. Throughout the film, Thanos makes all these claims about how he wants to save the universe, how he's helping people, how he thinks he's being merciful. But in this one moment, we see the true Thanos: A tyrannical madman who derives physical pleasure from literally strangling the life out of someone, to the point where it makes him audibly exhale from the endorphin rush. That was always the intention.
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the future thanos is different from the past thanos, they aren’t the same person. I will list why, for one the past one didn’t experience all the future events to come. While he does understand he does win in the future he becomes more reckless and too confident in his abilities. The future thanos had to slowly working his way to the event of the great snap. He didn’t know if he would win or not. It would be a constant battle and some of his followers would be killed. Future thanos had many significant losses including having to personally kill gamora in a dramatic an painful way. He on a lesser level lost some close comrade he respected and probably was sad not every one would reach the finish line with him. After gamora death I feel like he is greatly changed and not the same person. It’s like he’s been humbled and fate cost him a huge price for reaching the stars. So no, they aren’t the same. Also I feel like the end game thanos was In a war period. So he would be very much in a war type of mood.
@acrazysheepdog1555
@acrazysheepdog1555 2 жыл бұрын
You should’ve mentioned Nebula, since she was literally tortured and made into a mechanical monstrosity due to Thanos’ cold and callous nature. That would’ve been a better way to let us know how evil Thanos really is.
@DoremiFasolatido1979
@DoremiFasolatido1979 2 жыл бұрын
That...I might grant you. But being uncaring still isn't evil. If he got his jollies out of it...then he'd be evil.
@acrazysheepdog1555
@acrazysheepdog1555 2 жыл бұрын
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 being uncaring isn’t evil, but torturing and essentially breaking an individual down (keep in mind this was his “daughter” in a sense) is quite evil. In Endgame, we see how Nebula is essentially breaking down when in Thanos’ presence (past Nebula anyway), and Nebula’s monologue about how Thanos would make her and Gamora fight and then use cybernetics to enhance and torture her every time she lost to the point where Thanos took her *brain from her fucking skull* is more than evil in my opinion. Edit: her monologue was in Gaurdians 2, when she and the pirate guy are alone before she decides to leave the Ravagers. Watch that scene again and tell me Thanos wasn’t evil in that respect.
@anatoldenevers237
@anatoldenevers237 2 жыл бұрын
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 Kidnaping a child and forcing them to grow up and be a murderer by pitting them against their adoptive sibling and torturing them is evil, regardless of weather he enjoyed it or not.
@HTMN161
@HTMN161 2 жыл бұрын
@@anatoldenevers237 he made gamora and nebula spar with each other, and he did what he did to nebula so she doesn’t have to be second to her sister, she can be equal instead
@anatoldenevers237
@anatoldenevers237 2 жыл бұрын
@@HTMN161 I know why he did it, but that doesn't excuse it. He took children from their homes after slaughtering half of their people, forced them to fight and tortured and mutilated Nebula against her will.
@PatrickWDunne
@PatrickWDunne 2 жыл бұрын
It was inevitable that The Vile Eye would eventually cover Thanos
@robertstone9988
@robertstone9988 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos is the poster boy for the expression "the road to hell is paved in good intentions"
@Spido68_the_spectator
@Spido68_the_spectator 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertstone9988 the song " 4 minutes (to save the world) " said it years prior :) It's Madonna that says it in there
@josh043p6
@josh043p6 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there!
@Vasses935
@Vasses935 2 жыл бұрын
That, is destiny fulfilled
@zazikikomo7796
@zazikikomo7796 2 жыл бұрын
He did a poor job, if I'm being honest. I think he misses the point wildly on Thanos. He frames him as a compassionate and overly logical being trying to do the right thing, but I think it's more accurate to say that he's just butthurt over the fate of Titan and being ignored and condemned, and wants to prove he was right by imposing his solution on the universe at large.
@LycanVisuals
@LycanVisuals 2 жыл бұрын
I came to be a Thanos apologist after working in customer service.
@ZachJ-0
@ZachJ-0 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos did nothing wrong
@rickywilcoxson6933
@rickywilcoxson6933 2 жыл бұрын
My Condolences
@lizardjr.7826
@lizardjr.7826 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@spectreshadow
@spectreshadow 2 жыл бұрын
I would snap more than half the universe after working in a movie theater.
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ThatSpecificIndividual
@ThatSpecificIndividual 2 жыл бұрын
Now this brings a smile to my face.
@walterwhite9602
@walterwhite9602 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing that makes thanos pretty damn terrifying? Think about what he was doing before he gathered the stones. He was going from planet to planet and manually slaughtering and wiping out half the population. And he did this for years and years. Good lord.
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
True, that shows how evil he was..killing gamora's relatives then adopting her shows how sick in the head thanos Always was...
@LiberiArcano
@LiberiArcano 2 жыл бұрын
It's important to differentiate MCU Thanos from his comic book counterpart. While they are the same character, their ultimate goal and portrayal is completely different. MCU Thanos is obsessed with balance, and he believes that the universe can only be saved through impartial, fair genocide so that the surviving half will have enough resources and living space to prosper. He acts like he's forced to disintegrate trillions to save trillions, and always try to justify his actions, even when he's dead wrong. Here's an example: someone with a tormented conscience and with all that blood on their hands for "the greater good" would have never smiled as they were ripping the Mind Stone from Vision's head, and then toss him away like it was nothing. Another difference is that, according to Marvel Studios, MCU Thanos was designed and portrayed as a character without significative weaknesses. Comic book Thanos, on the other hand, has a more selfish reason. Thanos is obsessed by death, so much that he falls in love with Lady Death herself, and his ultimate goal is to achieve a source of absolute, god-like power so that he can be worthy of his love interest. The iconic snap, brought so many times in Infinity War and Endgame, is used just once in the comics, to express just how powerful Thanos is, and all he requires is a snap of his fingers to cancel half of the universe. After all, you don't need a special move to use the powers of the Infinity Gauntlet. But there's the catch: the exact moment Thanos gain this kind of power, he unwittingly becomes more powerful than Death, and that's something that Lady Death can't abide. So no matter how many times he tries, he's destined to fail because he values himself so much. And then there's one of the most absurd comic book weaknesses of all time: Thanos's "subconscious desire to lose". Whether he wants it or not, in the end Thanos is defeated by his opponents because, deep down, he doesn't see himself worthy of the power he seeks, and he wish to be stopped. Clearly you can't be able to properly adapt such an abstract and weird condition to a movie villain. After all, MCU Thanos did win.
@TheGarrettCarrot
@TheGarrettCarrot 2 жыл бұрын
I think the comic weakness of Thanos is still analyzable in the MCU when you think of it as his “death-drive”, especially regarding the past trauma of his planet that led him to his goals. After all the term “Thanatos” is often used interchangeably with the concept and I think it’s still pretty integral to his character in the movies as well, just way less on the nose and silly as it is in the original Infinity Gauntlet story
@WaryMason
@WaryMason 2 жыл бұрын
*_One thing that stayed with many is his way of speaking, his wisdom & quotes_*
@hue_jazz59
@hue_jazz59 2 жыл бұрын
"Simple calculus" He was such a chad.. I loved every second of him in IW... Not so much in Endgame...
@Phishytaco
@Phishytaco 2 жыл бұрын
That's three things
@in4mus85
@in4mus85 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phishytaco 😂
@richerprior5961
@richerprior5961 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget them hands
@WaryMason
@WaryMason 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phishytaco oh wait yea
@V4Now
@V4Now 2 жыл бұрын
The cool thing about the comic and movie versions is that they retain a warped concept of "love".
@johnlawful2272
@johnlawful2272 2 жыл бұрын
The comics version was simp max
@V4Now
@V4Now 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnlawful2272 nothing mediocre about the concept of death, brother.😉
@johnlawful2272
@johnlawful2272 2 жыл бұрын
@@V4Now it's what makes us equal
@Ashguy733
@Ashguy733 2 жыл бұрын
Its funny because in the comics, there is a Christmas annual I think where he lets Gamora celebrate the holiday and is conflicted about his growing feelings for her as a sorta daughter and monologues about the idea of connection with other beings. It ends with him throwing a doll he had for her in the trash I think? It was interesting in the comics that Thanos struggled with the idea that perhaps all he ever wanted was a genuine love and connection with others. In a sense his journey into Infinity Gauntlet is an existential journey over "Wants to bang death," he literally died before Infinity Gauntlet in Avengers 88? I think and was happy in non existence in Death's realm, his return though is more about him finding meaning through the Gauntlet and finding that through warped perceptions of concepts like Love and Power.
@V4Now
@V4Now 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashguy733 it actually reminds me a bit of momento, how the main dude has the answers but his ego is as much a hindrance to his efforts as his real disability.
@iainronald4217
@iainronald4217 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, Thor is older than Thanos? Damn, we really needed a scene where Thor dresses Thanos down by screaming "I've eaten more salt than you have rice!"
@colbystearns5066
@colbystearns5066 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos is such a great villain and it’s nice that a major blockbuster franchise was able to put this much thought into his development as a character! He set a high bar for villains going forward that I don’t think will be topped for a while.
@callummacalister
@callummacalister 2 жыл бұрын
One small point about the Titan issue: We only have Thanos' word for Titan's issues. Absent any other information, it's as likely that Thanos *believed* that Titan would eventually fall to ruin, as Malthus did on Earth in his day, but, his claims falling on deaf ears, instead destroyed Titan himself. Personal headcanon to be sure, but it certainly fits with his motivations in other movies, such as his desire to rule Earth and so on.
@MrPink-qf1xi
@MrPink-qf1xi 2 жыл бұрын
It is great see a blockbuster movie villain that is multidimensional and has ideas that makes you think if they could be right. Great villain and surely evil. One thing to add from recent Eternals movie, his brother was Eros and an Eternal, so that might have some implications to his origin. Great video as always.
@girishramchandani3943
@girishramchandani3943 2 жыл бұрын
Watch renegade cut's video
@MrPink-qf1xi
@MrPink-qf1xi 2 жыл бұрын
@@girishramchandani3943 name or link maybe? I could not find which video you meant.
@comradecorvus8748
@comradecorvus8748 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrPink-qf1xi I got u homie kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6nLlnqge6yBodE
@killadrill
@killadrill 2 жыл бұрын
How are his ideas right? He could just give multiplied resources to everyone
@kostazarikos3383
@kostazarikos3383 2 жыл бұрын
@@girishramchandani3943 haha I just looked at renegade cuts channel is so bias. I can't stand the left or right and he is a proud lefty
@lgx3557
@lgx3557 2 жыл бұрын
64th episode? Get this to 32K likes... perfectly balanced as all things should be
@TheAbsurdZero
@TheAbsurdZero 2 жыл бұрын
😎 All hail the mighty Thanos!
@ethanbell5508
@ethanbell5508 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one. Always a pleasure to watch you breakdown my favourite villains.
@Lotsolov4u
@Lotsolov4u 2 жыл бұрын
Desperation, fear, isolation and resentment can inflict huge damage to a person and the fact Thanos carried that around for centuries is incredible. His plan is undoubtedly wrong but it makes sense given where he came from
@niniquemephis6957
@niniquemephis6957 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know if this is intentional, but when Thanos implements his genocidal plan, he "snaps". This could be construed as a play on words, as in he both literally and figuratively snaps, and the reason he is so hellbent on killing half the universe is because he cant bring himself to admit there may have been another way to save his people, not to mention the trauma of losing everyone he ever knew.
@cryptographysource268
@cryptographysource268 2 жыл бұрын
I think Lord Voldemort would be a great character to analyze. Surprised it hasn't been done yet.
@M.A.C.01
@M.A.C.01 2 жыл бұрын
Voldemort is a good idea. I also been hoping he do him. I also think Analyzing Evil: Bane from the dark knight is a good choice too.
@ferrm1992
@ferrm1992 2 жыл бұрын
While it is an obvious choice and should be done, in the surface he seems so unappealing and unilateral. But evil he is.
@PatrickWDunne
@PatrickWDunne 2 жыл бұрын
Ralph Fiennes sure knows how to play bad guys.
@christianbaker3564
@christianbaker3564 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see Frieza from DBZ. But he's super similar to Voldemort so I'd be happy with both lol.
@MrThebeast115
@MrThebeast115 2 жыл бұрын
Guaranteed 1 hour long video for sure
@scrawnypaleboy
@scrawnypaleboy 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really enjoy your take on Adrian Veidt. The film version is similar enough to the graphic novel, too. He's sort of a more localized Thanos. And, considering the traits of each of the characters, you could even analyze Rorschach or maybe the Comedian.
@SoulSeeker20
@SoulSeeker20 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this as well
@SammyPro820
@SammyPro820 2 жыл бұрын
Me TOO
@Krakatit30
@Krakatit30 2 жыл бұрын
One more vote for Adrian.
@escobar7796
@escobar7796 2 жыл бұрын
yep.
@Corona645
@Corona645 2 жыл бұрын
In regards to the mcu, I suggest doing an analysis on Kilgrave from Jessica Jones. His infatuation for her and his vile actions make him a perfect candidate.
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
True, he's a great villain..sick as hell..
@ghost245353
@ghost245353 2 жыл бұрын
Netflix shows are not marvel cinematic universe
@red_calla_lily
@red_calla_lily 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he's an interesting character. It doesn't help he's played by David Tennant, but his evil is so weirdly affable. He's very, very scary but kind of likable at the same time.
@christoferprestipino7433
@christoferprestipino7433 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing villain
@escobar7796
@escobar7796 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghost245353 wtf are you talking about
@GARYHODGKINSON
@GARYHODGKINSON 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this, but at 12:08, I have to disagree with that, he clearly isn't enjoying torturing Nebula, when he does it, he hangs his head and grimaces, it's hurting him, emotionally to do it, but he feels he has to. And when Gamora caves in, Thanos stops instantly, and his face and body language show relief, and not triumph.
@hannahevertson8306
@hannahevertson8306 Жыл бұрын
The thing about Thanos's plan is in many ways he also halved the resources. Half the crops were wiped out as their living, half the trees, half the worms that keep the soil healthy, half the microorganisms that regulate every person's gut and also keep soil healthy. Worse he screwed over fields that would have been relying on the nutrients from the decomposition of the crops planted on them, meaning they would be less able to support crops. In short the first couple years after the snap would have been very hard as the ecosystem recovered and the populations of these essential life forms recovered and started providing their resources again. Basically Thanos didn't have a very strong understanding of how resources form and while overpopulation of one species is harmful, underpopulation of another can be flat out devastating.
@Pragabond
@Pragabond 10 ай бұрын
Yeah his plan really was just destroy everything and pretend like the fallout wouldn't exist. Like imagine all the problems that comes from just PEOPLE disappearing. Fires and ovens untended (also less firefighters), people driving cars and planes crashing (less firefighters AND paramedics), just so so much chaos and societal collapse with everyone in the world likely having more dead loved ones than living on top of ptsd and now we what.......rebuild? Sure thing. On top of that he didn't say half of every species he said half of all life. With emphasis on it being random. An entire species vital to a whole planet's ecosystem could just be gone. There's honestly no real logic to his plan period there never was it was just him getting the saltiest that they spurned him for having a shit idea and deciding to kill half the universe because constructive criticism happened to him.
@theviolater9231
@theviolater9231 9 ай бұрын
That didn’t happen just watch the movie
@hannahevertson8306
@hannahevertson8306 9 ай бұрын
@theviolater9231 they failed to show it in Infinity War, but it is shown in Endgame. There's a tree, and they make a point to show the place where the tree is repeatedly throughout the movie with no tree. After they undo the snap, suddenly tree with a nest and baby birds in it. The operating word in plant life is life. Thanos halved all life in the universe. He halved the plants, the animals, the bactiera. They also discuss how hard it was to get food early after the snap in areas that already struggle with resources people died. The sheer inviormental destruction is a large part of what drove the remaining people to work together on an unprecedented level, causing the trouble with the Flag Smashers in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. All life without parameters means all life, not just all sentient life.
@arishemthejudge6780
@arishemthejudge6780 8 ай бұрын
@@hannahevertson8306If that was true, the forest in Wakanda during Infinity War would have seen a lot of trees turning into dust, but that didn’t happen. He must’ve selectively killed in the snap, the way Smart Hulk did it
@hannahevertson8306
@hannahevertson8306 8 ай бұрын
@arishemthejudge6780 Or, and this is my bet, they didn't want to pay for the effect just to turn a tun of trees to dust. However, the writers have said the intent was all life no matter the kind. That's plant, microorganism, and animal. It is shown in the next movie, they've just gotten lazy.
@paulstrathern4309
@paulstrathern4309 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos was the ultimate Malthusian. Though, I always wondered... if the Gauntlet gives you infinite power, then instead of eliminating half the universe why not make the resources infinite?
@SeismicHammer
@SeismicHammer 2 жыл бұрын
Because he’s the ultimate Malthusian, and thus doesn’t understand that resources need people to be actually made useful, and that people are not just pure consumers
@krel3358
@krel3358 2 жыл бұрын
Because the movie is propaganda for the idiot masses. Our entire ecnonomic system and ways of life are driven by fear and scarcity while the government hides advanced knowledge and technology from us because they want us to be enslaved permanently. Look at the Georgia guidestones. I mean you do know that the deepstate and intelligence agencies/darpa are lightyears ahead of us and controlled by psychopaths. As one example in 1969 Jose Delgado perfected brainchips to an extent he was doing wireless brain machine interfacing, now we have Elon Musk marketing us brainchips for 2025. Why not let the public have this back in 1969, well think of how that would put big pharma and psychiatrists out of business. They just dont let us know about it. Human beings live in total slavery and ignorance and this movie and its plot is just one example of them controlling how the masses are allowed to think, that some might agree with Thanos or think something like this would need to happen on Earth because they have no concept of Zero point energy tech or energy medicine or replicators able to make anything.
@zazikikomo7796
@zazikikomo7796 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that he didn't want to make resources infinite is proof that Thanos didn't care about saving the universe, he only cared about proving he was right about how to save Titan.
@ghost245353
@ghost245353 2 жыл бұрын
@@zazikikomo7796 Did the infinity stones have the power to make resources infinite?
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
He just an egostic mass murderer who want to kill people, the other thing is that Malthus is dumb the problem was never the populations but the greed that capitalism brings in human nature..
@eastxsidexswagg
@eastxsidexswagg 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an episode based around Caesar from Fallout: New Vegas. Love your channel
@finlaylooney3346
@finlaylooney3346 2 жыл бұрын
Ave true to Caesar and death to the profligates
@TheLethalIntrospectionCrew
@TheLethalIntrospectionCrew 2 жыл бұрын
Hit us with that Hegelian dialectic!
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
"I didn't teach you to lie that's why you're so bad at it."
@FelixTsang
@FelixTsang 9 ай бұрын
Thanos is just an insane titan who thinks “this kitten coughed once, it’s as good as dead. Better put it out of its misery” and use that logic as an excuse to kill people
@BroncoBoy7
@BroncoBoy7 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos is one of my favorite villains in TV or movies. He is one of the most formidable and seemingly invincible foes protagonists have faced.
@mattmarzula
@mattmarzula 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos isn't unique in his ethos. He's only unique in his capabilities.
@postsniper-7532
@postsniper-7532 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say his capabilities make him unique in his ethos a false prophet knows he’s false and convinces you he’s not Thanos is in a league of his own he never faltered in his ideology or goals and gave up power after achieving said goals
@levi_exiled8579
@levi_exiled8579 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos is a real fanatic, crazy moron whos plan doesn't bring what he wants to bring - balance. He is delusional, thinking that randomly deleting half of the population on every planet will solve issues. It will actually cause more issues. Shift of powers and chaos which will only result in old days being returned. He is no smart, nor a good villain. Disney wrote him so he doesn't provoke any negative feelings in viewers because they are trying to appeal do masses instead of delivering a good story. Thanos should be hated instead of empathize with. Disney knows what they are doing. Killing art for money and brainwashing people. Thanos, and other MCU villains, are one of the worst villains. MCU isn't marvel comics. Good villain would be Willem Defoe's Goblin, Heath Ledger's Joker, Jesse Eisenberg's Luthor (he portrays person with many, many issues who is pathetic, wants power, wants to prove that no one is good in this world. he fails ofc. Superman has a big heart)... MCU is trash.
@HILAL19564
@HILAL19564 2 жыл бұрын
@@levi_exiled8579 mcu might be trash in which I disagree. To a certain extent but Thanos was a great villain. Especially in infinity war.
@levi_exiled8579
@levi_exiled8579 2 жыл бұрын
@@HILAL19564 On surface level he was but if you give it a better thought you'll the fraud he is, trust me. He doesn't have knowledge because person with true knowledge and goals would have come up with a better idea and there could have been a chance of redemption. However, writers are too stupid. Imagine if 50% of population died on earth. Wars would start, true chaos, millions would die, Russia would invade countries. Shit like this. Thanos is stupid. Good villain is a general Zod in MOS. Or Steppenwolf in JL. He has clear motives and is actually simple instead of trying to be complex unlike Luthor in previous movie. He seeks redemption and place next to Darkseid but doesn't know that Darkseid doesn't care about him. He is a lost cute shark. If he had been more careful he could be redeemed. If only he saw true colors of Darkseid. Thanos kills the only person he loves the most just to kill more and destroy balance. He is a fanatic. Problem is in the way he is written and directed. He would be good if they had shown him in darker themes and colors provoking negative feeling in viewers because Thanos was never good. Also, stones are really stupid. Vision gets knowledge from the stone but Thanos gets nothing. After getting the last stone he should have seen truth about his intentions. MCU is trash.
@Astraben
@Astraben 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, his ethos is pretty much your run of the mill ecofascist
@justinriley
@justinriley 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, I did not expect this but I'm glad you made this video.
@hildaenjoyer8862
@hildaenjoyer8862 2 жыл бұрын
You should consider covering Idi Amin from the Last King of Scotland. Terrifying villain based on the real dictator of Uganda and is Whitaker's best ever performance.
@shadowsnake8989
@shadowsnake8989 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent choice.
@Hexsmasher2099
@Hexsmasher2099 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I saw the movie, that man was a monster
@thepatriot1613
@thepatriot1613 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is Thanos thought that he was faith itself until the infinity stones showed him otherwise.
@benmcgill2018
@benmcgill2018 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that film, and learning more about his life outside of it reminded me of just how evil somebody can be
@jbo4547
@jbo4547 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a great role. A supet charismatic and friendly guy with such intensity, who you knew would just have you killed in an instant if he wanted to.
@crazeelazee7524
@crazeelazee7524 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos is the epitome of "means that become ends are never good ends". He wished to kill half the population of the universe to save it but after so many slain worlds he had lost sight of his original goal. Instead his goal became killing half of the universe's population.
@JackGamer45-vi2ni
@JackGamer45-vi2ni Жыл бұрын
Be carefull what you wish for.
@toaster9922
@toaster9922 2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that after he snapped half the universe, he just goes and lives in a wooden shed in the forest. no desire to rule the new world after he made it.
@midafcodm
@midafcodm 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda feels irresponsible, like it's a pretty big transition and he's done it on smaller scales before. He has experience in making it work, he should at least check on things. It's like conquering a country, if you don't set up some form of government, even just a puppet regime, it'll return or break into anarchy.
@lenenlawless
@lenenlawless 2 жыл бұрын
@@midafcodm but thanos never wanted to rule. his goal wasn't to conquer. just to correct
@TT-md7mm
@TT-md7mm 2 жыл бұрын
Your content truly reaches it's peak with each and every video. Easily one of my favorites series on all of YT. Keep up the great work!
@perseastheodoropoulos7367
@perseastheodoropoulos7367 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible video as always.very well develloped and quite sympathetic villain. perefect video, as it should be
@filmadvocate6262
@filmadvocate6262 2 жыл бұрын
You should do analyzing evil for Wilson Fisk from Netflix's Daredevil Such a great villain
@Lexxa2k
@Lexxa2k 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I was just thinking that. That would make a great video.
@jonathanwyatt4672
@jonathanwyatt4672 2 жыл бұрын
And also Kilgrave from Jessica Jones and Cottonmouth from Luke Cage.
@ShadowMomchi-PhoeniexELj-ir6vo
@ShadowMomchi-PhoeniexELj-ir6vo 8 ай бұрын
Only thing is Z moves require being in sync and a strong bond to work, and Paul isn't exactly as openly close to his Pokemon as someone like Ash
@spiritsnake89
@spiritsnake89 2 жыл бұрын
Some folks also forget Thanos also erased half of the animal population on top of the sentient population.
@TakeTheWorld21
@TakeTheWorld21 2 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest villains of all time and truly fitting for the main villain of the Infinity Saga My favorite fight and interaction he has with any of the Avengers is easily Iron Man since Tony was preparing for Thanos since the first Avengers while Thanos knew and viewed him as his only and greatest threat to accomplishing his life long goal, some gods, sorcerers, and kings never could.
@Aacezay
@Aacezay 2 жыл бұрын
That's not true
@kiryukazuma8089
@kiryukazuma8089 2 жыл бұрын
That’s silly lmao, Thor nearly killed him even when he had the stones.
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 жыл бұрын
@@kiryukazuma8089 at the last possible second, he caught him off guard JUST when he had 5 stones.
@some1350
@some1350 2 жыл бұрын
Nah.
@JackGamer45-vi2ni
@JackGamer45-vi2ni Жыл бұрын
@@Gadget-Walkmen Nutjub Narrccist. at the second part. He caught him on guard JUST A bit when he had 6 stones. not 5 brat.
@jeremymenning56
@jeremymenning56 2 жыл бұрын
An abundance of resources always leads to overconsumption. Eventually the peak of available resources is reached and begins to decline. What happens next is interesting. People actually begin to consume faster in an anxious scramble to hoard said resources. So while resources have peaked the consumption multiplies causing the resources to be depleted even faster. Recommend Jared Diamond's "The Last Tree Of Easter Island" as a study/lesson of this phenomenon.
@josephtaylor-kennedy1420
@josephtaylor-kennedy1420 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thank you.
@RuneRelic2
@RuneRelic2 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this! This is truly well done! Hope you discuss the comic book version of Thanos obsessed with Death. Keep being awesome.
@colemanbrenner6555
@colemanbrenner6555 2 жыл бұрын
i hope there's a megatron or starscream video. they have interesting chharacters and since there're different continuities with them you can pick any
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with Thanos plan is that it isn’t a solution but simply a way to delay the inevitable, even after wiping out half of all life in the universe with a generation or two the numbers would be back to the same levels and he’d need to perform another snap. Granted that is what makes him a compelling villain in my mind because he is so clearly in the wrong even if the ends justify the means. Edit: oh good you touched on this later in the video.
@TaliaIGhul
@TaliaIGhul 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos is everything Lex Luthor says Superman is; A self-righteous alien who abuses his power that thinks he knows what's best for everyone.
@pizzahighfive2612
@pizzahighfive2612 2 жыл бұрын
But Superman doesn't abuse his powers at all, that's Lex Luther reflecting himself on someone else for he is truly the one with lots of power and he definitely abuses.. all he does is lie and exploit people, create weapons of mass destruction and sells it to corrupt govts and the black markets. Superman uses his powers to SAVE people, not to control and abuse people. That completely is Lex Luther. The what if storylines where Superman is written as evil doesn't count.. maybe you have to rewatch Superman the animated series again, which is the true portrayal of the man of steel.
@elderliddle2733
@elderliddle2733 2 жыл бұрын
@pizzahighfive I don’t think you read the comment correctly… she’s saying that Thanos meets that criticism of Superman. Thanos is the self righteous alien, Thanos is the one thinking he knows what’s best for everyone, Thanos abuses his power. Reread the comment.
@minatodroger7890
@minatodroger7890 2 жыл бұрын
So true 👍
@kennethyoung6279
@kennethyoung6279 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up reading Thanos centered comics by Jim Starlin and it was so refreshing to see them stay true to his character in Infinity War. Endgame however...eeh
@ghost245353
@ghost245353 2 жыл бұрын
Endgame was the exact same character only with knowledge of the future. Endgame Thanos was the perfect outcome
@diannajennings266
@diannajennings266 2 жыл бұрын
Infinity war Thanos wasnt true to the comics.... But it was better. Endgame was more like the comics.
@98ore
@98ore 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghost245353 nah endgame thanos was younger which to me is significant, he seemed more mature in infinity war.
@kennethyoung6279
@kennethyoung6279 2 жыл бұрын
@@diannajennings266 Endgame is more accurate to the modern comics, sure, but not Starlin's era of the character. Infinity War follows the Thanos Quest/Silver Surfer Thanos who truly believed he was doing the right thing, who showed regret for his quest, was extremely attached to Gamora and learned to respect his opponents.
@stitchfan93
@stitchfan93 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the amazing work! Thank you for your hard work, dedication, passion and determination! All the best! 😀
@JoeA-j8i
@JoeA-j8i 2 жыл бұрын
The “Hello everyone” is always perfectly timed. 😂
@LXO_TC
@LXO_TC 2 жыл бұрын
He definitely plans that out purposely its always synced with the villiam
@patrickhogue1906
@patrickhogue1906 2 жыл бұрын
I like the theory that after getting the mind stone he became aware of the celestials and there was one in Titan, so he gave the excuse of overpopulation to kill enough people so it couldn't be born. That would explain why he didn't bother with adding more resources of the universe whenever they started running low.
@godemperorofmankind3.091
@godemperorofmankind3.091 Жыл бұрын
except it would be born eventually. so the plan is at best a temporary delay. its like pissing in your own mouth to prevent dying of thirst. im sure it would work for a few days but its not a real solution. and celestials dont care about waiting an extra 100 years. thats a blink of the eye for them. second, only a few worlds have celestial eggs on them. its not a universal problem
@gersonribeiro374
@gersonribeiro374 2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING video Vile Eye I've been waiting for a video of him for a long time!!!!!!!!! Two ideas for possible villain videos would be Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory and Michael Scott from the Office!!!!!!!!!
@JustTooDamnHonest
@JustTooDamnHonest 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos is the type of villain that makes even heroes question their actions and that is what made the Mad Titan so opposing.
@RagingEggs
@RagingEggs 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that makes him such a great villain is the fact that they could’ve written him as the good guy and you’d be able to understand and appreciate his motives and beliefs.
@thehat2243
@thehat2243 2 жыл бұрын
Really? A good guy who takes it upon himself to murder trillions of people for their supposed own good because he alone knows that's good for them? Mao Zedong must be your hero
@barockobummer2448
@barockobummer2448 2 жыл бұрын
If you have infinite power and you still use that power to kill instead of infinitely supplying abundance, you just wanted to kill people
@josephtaylor-kennedy1420
@josephtaylor-kennedy1420 2 жыл бұрын
Umm no. He crossed many Ethical lines, the largest one being - it is immoral to destroy populations. Sure his desire was noble but his methods were completely unethical. Yeah, he is evil.
@generalnsj
@generalnsj 2 жыл бұрын
Eh, not when you consider his motivation in the comics. He wanted to wipe out half the universe to win the hand of Death. That's it.
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
The Guy is just dumb and evil he killed innocent civilians pretending it was for a greater good? He's sick in the head..
@dophhead2711
@dophhead2711 2 жыл бұрын
The scariest thing about thanos is how many audience members walked away from the film thinking he was right
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
It makes these dumb people scarier than thanos...lol...people are so dumb...
@Saulgoodman67677
@Saulgoodman67677 2 жыл бұрын
try go on twitter and you'll soon think the same
@blackopsquay
@blackopsquay 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos was right.
@Dan_Kanerva
@Dan_Kanerva 2 жыл бұрын
because he was
@AxenfonKlatismrek
@AxenfonKlatismrek 2 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, when im looking at today's world, its inevitable collapse, but unlike him or any other social system in recent history who are trying to correct it, im just waiting to see it all crumble to dust. I mean destroying this system is like setting alerady burned down house on fire, its redundant, and this hypercapitalist world is committing suicide on its own.
@the-point-bearer6689
@the-point-bearer6689 2 жыл бұрын
My only issue for Thanos in MCU is that he doesn't even mention Death as a concept in this, which is a part of a reason why he's bent on erasing the universe in half in the first place.
@dachevidz5185
@dachevidz5185 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Surprised you didn’t go into more detail regarding his treatment of his daughters. As for a suggestion on upcoming vids, Thulsa Doom from Conan, or the Predator
@joeschianodicola1810
@joeschianodicola1810 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos must not have really thought his plan through, because if he wanted to eliminate half of all life in the universe, that would include plants and animals consumed as resources by the consuming sapient beings. That wouldn't mean more resources for the remaining half of beings, but rather the same ratio of disparity of resources among living beings, only halved, with a greater void of life left unfilled.
@purgetheXYs
@purgetheXYs 2 жыл бұрын
Hm good point
@kevinhuen1380
@kevinhuen1380 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is, he's too self-deluded to see his genocidal methods were wrong, and more concerned with proving himself right.
@ghost245353
@ghost245353 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the famous Neil deGrasse Tyson talked about this with other experts on his youtube channel.
@Rasmos
@Rasmos 2 жыл бұрын
They specifically note “half of all sentient life”, meaning plants were likely excluded. However, animals are resources, too.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rasmos I don't know when they specify that, but plant resources rely on animal resources to thrive, and then we have to resolve the definition of the word "sentient" - a hard thing to define. Imagine it means only beings that pass the so-called "mirror test". Now we have an overabundance of meaningless resources, like stray pets, that we'll just have to euthanize. (Thanks Thanos) We'll have enough food to go around, but half the people who manage it will have died. When I watched an optimistic futurist video about how 3D printed homes were going to "solve the housing crisis" I was shocked to have to point out that the reason people are homeless, is not because there aren't enough *homes* to go around. The way we define and manage resources is not dependent on their objective incidence rate. Even if we accept the questionable idea that we know what "sentient life" is, there's basically no scenario where the outcome of this is good
@OnlyTwoShoes
@OnlyTwoShoes 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of erasing half the universe's population, he could have used the stones to quadruple all the resources, make the resources more efficient or anything else.
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
The Monster just wanted to kill people..not even evil people just people...
@OnlyTwoShoes
@OnlyTwoShoes 2 жыл бұрын
@@fideletamo4292 It makes more sense in the comics. He wanted to bang mistress death.
@diannajennings266
@diannajennings266 2 жыл бұрын
@@OnlyTwoShoes nope..
@diannajennings266
@diannajennings266 2 жыл бұрын
He wanted to bring balance...quadraple is not balance.
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 жыл бұрын
That's why he's the "mad" titan, he's insane and actually enjoys killing and thinks himself as a savior. That's why he did that instead of making more resources.
@JdeMolay
@JdeMolay 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos' plan may be "logical", but I think it's rather cowardly and unimaginative. When he gains possession of the most powerful force in the universe, and essentially has the power of a God, to remake the universe in any way he sees fit, all he can think to do is to destroy rather than create. What Thanos overlooks is that the higher the population, the more brilliant people are born and therefore the more ingenious solutions to problems are presented. Thanos is not the only exceptional being in the universe, and therefore someone will eventually come up with solutions to the problems that plague us all, such as renewable energy or genetically-engineered food sources. Loss of life is an inevitable part of life itself, and frustration with this inevitable fact does not in any way justify taking it yourself for the "greater good". It's a selfish and cowardly act to rob life from others in order to preserve it for yourself. Thanos always talks about how difficult and profound his mission is, but his reaction is the most base and straightforward of solutions. It requires absolutely zero creativity and quite apparently belies the fact that his devotion to the cause is not a result of compassion or even logic, but of his trauma from losing his people and his ego. He needs to kill half of all life to validate the thesis that his people wouldn't let him enact. He has tied the fear and trauma of losing his people to his mission, and thus uses it to work out his own feelings of powerlessness, not to mention his resentment about being banished by his people and called a "madman". These emotional factors motivate Thanos, it's not about being effective, it's about proving that he could have saved his people, that he was right. It's not selfless, it's petty. He's a religious zealot who believes himself to be God and therefore imbued with the right to choose who lives or dies. Thanos' plan should not be considered even as a last resort. He's a sociopath, and that's as simple as it is, no matter how he dresses up his hatred with compassion. Thanos is a brilliant character, his motivation is understandable and compelling, but it is not correct, or noble.
@Yavl
@Yavl 2 жыл бұрын
You’re wrong, it’s both correct and noble. Eternals tells you why, if you’ve watched it
@JdeMolay
@JdeMolay 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yavl I have. Even if that was why Thanos did what he did (which hasn't definitively been proven or demonstrated), preventing genocide by committing genocide is still not noble, (not to mention equally as illogical). It's not about victory at all costs, it's about preserving what you are fighting for in the first place. Otherwise you cease to be on the side of good and cease to deserve victory anyway. I'm not naive, sometimes lines have to be crossed in war, but murdering helpless civilians again and again to supposedly achieve victory isn't even war. War implies that both sides have agreed to participate in armed conflict. It's just senseless genocide.
@BigA678
@BigA678 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone says he’s wrong I get it but what solutions would any of you have?
@FelineElaj
@FelineElaj 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigA678 any solution beside Thanos's solution would work better. Not to mention, the problem Thanos was trying to solve does not exist, in actuality. Even in wild nature, animals as dumb as rabbits do not die out because of overpopulation, because their population is balanced out naturally by the resources available. Humans are smarter than rabbits (obviously) and can do a myriad of things to not die out due to limited resources. It is happening all around you if you live in a developed country. Have you noticed that the birth rates have gone down? But even if we supposed that the problem was real, there are better solutions that genocide (which is immoral AND ineffective). For example: 1) improving technology to more efficiently use what resources are available (we humans have been effectively doing this throughout our history); 2) trading with other parts of the universe for resouces (recourses are not available consistently, so naturally there are places with abundance and places of scarcity, so resources can be traded for goods and services); 3) inventing new technology to use other sources of renewable energy (given the level of advanced technology MCU has, this should not be a problem at all); 4) finally, by using the Infinity Gauntlet, Thanos could've done ANYTHING. Creating new planets full of resources, creating new technology, using the Gauntlet to provide infinite energy or food, heck, even rewriting genetics of life in the Universe to require less energy. But nah, he decided to kill half the life in the Universe. Sure is edgy, but stupid and evil. Why stupid, you aks? Because population grows geometrically. The numbers he killed would be back in a generation or too. So Thanos would be left with two options: either try this genocide all over again (and again, and again), or to admit that he was wrong.
@BigA678
@BigA678 2 жыл бұрын
@@FelineElaj thats a good point and speaking of the birth rates, I heard that it was because of the vaccine which is crazy
@willemboele2079
@willemboele2079 2 жыл бұрын
i once saw a theory video that put forth the thought that instead of thanos wanting to help the universe, he wanted to prove he was right. mabye he didn't realize it himself, but he wanted to prove that those who exiled him were wrong, that he was right. that's why he didn't consider other options, he NEEDED to use hes way, and it needed to succeed. this also aligns more with he's personality (yaknow the sometimes tortures people thing).
@elvisp116
@elvisp116 2 жыл бұрын
What is life without Analyzing evil? What? 🔥🔥🔥
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 2 жыл бұрын
Lol exactly.
@StoryTeller796
@StoryTeller796 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos: Hi everybody! Everyone: Hi Dr. Thanos! Guess which Simpsons character has this as his catchphrase.
@lucaskimball8935
@lucaskimball8935 2 жыл бұрын
One thing you didn't go into detail about was how Thanos' obsession with proving that his solution of balancing the universe is the only one that could have worked influences another aspect of his personality that makes his evil even greater: his complete intolerance of failure. Throughout the entire MCU we see multiple examples of this: The Other warning Loki of the pain that awaits him should he fail to deliver the Tesseract; Thanos' threat to Ronan to not return again empty-handed; Ebony Maw, the one minion who has never failed Thanos, expressing fear at the 'judgement' that would await him should he reach Titan with the Time Stone still attached to Dr Strange; and of course most importantly, Thanos' mutilation of Nebula every time she lost a fight to Gamora. Thanos is so traumatised by his own perceived failure to save his people that he cannot abide failure in anyone around him, even his own adopted children, lest it create the risk that he himself will fail again.
@Divinemakyr
@Divinemakyr 2 жыл бұрын
11:25 I think a line that perfectly encapsulates that idea is one that was in the trailer but not in the movie. "Fun is not something one considers when balancing the universe, but this does put a smile on my face.”
@atomicxbeatz9407
@atomicxbeatz9407 2 жыл бұрын
Notice that every time the person of interest is about to speak, is when The Vile Eye gives the introduction! I love that little addition to your videos!
@Kingofredeyes
@Kingofredeyes 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that is never discussed with Thanos' plan and what happened with his homeworld is that his species is extremely long lived which means as more people where being born people where not dying as the same rate, resulting in the over population. Species like humans, however, have a much shorter lifespan by comparison meaning as more people are more you would have more dying, compared to Thanos' species, which helps more easily maintain the balance. It's a huge flaw that is never considered when discussing Thanos' plan.
@jvondd
@jvondd 2 жыл бұрын
I think what makes Thanos so evil because not only is his plan wrong and not based on reality, but even if he was right, once he has all the Infinity Stones and could solve the problem by making sure that every living thing in the universe has the resources they need, he can't even imagine that and decides genocide is the only solution.
@darthgibsonlp6631
@darthgibsonlp6631 2 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant. Would love to see you cover Davoth / The Dark Lord from Doom
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 2 жыл бұрын
Dude was dealt the shittiest hand in the cosmos. The Maykrs are the real villains
@pretzelman945
@pretzelman945 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for finally doing this video! Ever since I discovered this channel, I wanted a video on Thanos. He is my absolute favorite villain of all time. Love the content, and keep up the great work!
@t.michaeldonahue4682
@t.michaeldonahue4682 2 жыл бұрын
Arthur Mitchell. Trinity killer from ‘Dexter’. Complex enough to talk about because he experiences emotions over loss in addition to his psychopathy.
@Vicky_Heyes
@Vicky_Heyes 2 жыл бұрын
As always you put so much work into your videos, thank you! Unfortunately I feel you and a lot of others get the wrong idea about Thanos. He DOES want to kill half of all beings in the universe, he loves killing and he also is absolutely insane. Ebony Maw holding Obsidian back to let Thanos have his fun with the Hulk, killing the dwarves anyway and cutting off Itri's hands, he truly is just an insane and violent brute who loves killing but has convinced himself that if he wipes of half of all life it will also be a good thing. He gets to kill half of all life AND he has convinced himself the universe will also prosper. He knows there's dozens of other options, he is immensely intelligent after all. He knows that with the stones he would have a hundred other ways to save the universe. He just doesn't care. He loves killing and has therefore come up with, in his mind, a valid reason for wanting to wipe out half of all life. He's not as deep as people think.
@Yavl
@Yavl 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve put so many words into this comment! Unfortunately, Thanos did the right thing and nobody knew. If you watched Eternals you would know
@-Bore
@-Bore 2 ай бұрын
@@Yavl Incorrect. Celestials emerging? Prevent that. Easy
@JDdr86
@JDdr86 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos is a narcissist: “I am Inevitable!”
@ayczbx4652
@ayczbx4652 2 жыл бұрын
you should cover one of the mcu's only other proper villains, Kingpin from Daredevil. Vincent D'onofrio's performance in it is next level, especially for a TV show villain.
@bigcgaming9042
@bigcgaming9042 2 жыл бұрын
The MCU did a really great job on portraying Thanos’ character and personality on why he became this “Mad Titan” and why he wanted to destroy the whole universe in his point of view
@spartanalphazuluxy
@spartanalphazuluxy 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear your breakdown of Negan from The Walking Dead. While he eventually goes into an anti-hero roll he starts off a villain that the viewer or reader hates.
@Deailon
@Deailon 2 жыл бұрын
His logic was hilariously flawed, short-sighted and based on both enormous ego and lack of imagination. He was smart enough to be dangerous, but stupid enough for everyone who was not blinded by his charisma to see flaws in his plan. Perfect blockbuster villain.
@Jodipo
@Jodipo 2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be good. By the way, Omni-Man analysis video?
@joezar33
@joezar33 2 жыл бұрын
Cinematic Thanos villainous goal are lot better then the Love Sick Thanos from the comic book universe .
@thethresh
@thethresh 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one!! Thanks so much - Your writing and delivery is top notch and always a pleasure to watch.
@msquared9605
@msquared9605 Жыл бұрын
One thing I don’t see people talking much about, is that what if the mind stone planted all these crazy ideas and plans into thanos’ head? We know he gave Loki the scepter which contained the mind stone, and we saw how the mind stone was making all the avengers very uncharacteristically hostile towards each other on the heli-carrier. What if thanos was in possession of the stone for years and years and it just corrupted him?
@blakeharris58
@blakeharris58 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos, simply, is a killer. He has the power to kill on the grandest scale imaginable. He cannot think past killing. He is, simply, a killer.
@theserpent8667
@theserpent8667 2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting insight into an insidiously logical, yet somewhat empathetic villain.
@bradydefelice2944
@bradydefelice2944 2 жыл бұрын
The way the vile eye 👁 ends his videos isn’t always clear. Was his conclusion that Thanos wasn’t evil but treaded down a path of what he considered to be a necessary evil?
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
Empathetic? He killed the daughter that he forced to stay with him After she watching him kill her parents..then he sacrified her..that's certainly an empathetic Guy...
@MrMocha0411
@MrMocha0411 2 жыл бұрын
I’d really like to see you do Howard from 10 Cloverfield Lane. One of my favorite villains from any film and would make for an extremely interesting video.
@Zekrel
@Zekrel 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so grateful that you analyzed Thanos but you’ve almost covered the entire horror villain icons except for Chucky, Jason, and maybe one other. It just feels incomplete to me that you’ve analyzed Michael, Freddy, Pinhead, and Leatherface, but not Jason or Chucky and that one other.
@gustavoabate6242
@gustavoabate6242 2 жыл бұрын
Before watching the serie "Loki" i was like "use the stones to multiply the food/others and give knowledge about the problems and solutions to everyone in the universe". After watching Loki probably he tried that but the TVA took him out.
@HUKIT.
@HUKIT. 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos Titan Consumed really dives into the back story of this version of Thanos and is a great read or listen here on KZbin.
@tayyabhameed9559
@tayyabhameed9559 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as always.could you make an analysis On: - Johan liebert from "monsters" - light yagami from "Death note" ??
@anatoldenevers237
@anatoldenevers237 2 жыл бұрын
Johan is probably one of the best villains of all time. Would love to see that video
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
Johan is incredible, light is just an arrogant kid with low moral standards..i can't wait for him to do johan
@austinsill4254
@austinsill4254 2 жыл бұрын
Im not sure if you care much as the definition of decimate has shifted a lot but technically when you said. "Decimate the population of a planet by half." It was not correct usage of the word. Decimate means to reduce by one tenth or kill one in every 10.
@taost2924
@taost2924 2 жыл бұрын
Any of the Halo villains would be a great dive; the Prophet of Truth, Tartarus, Cortana, Gravemind, etc
@seanlepley1474
@seanlepley1474 2 жыл бұрын
"you think you can give me some medicine first..before going straight to the axe"... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Warlords901
@Warlords901 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video, Thanos is one of the more interesting villains in my opinion but I think you should cover Handsome Jack from Borderlands. Man is an absolute demon
@Krakatit30
@Krakatit30 2 жыл бұрын
YEEEEES !!!! :)
@ViewerUSA
@ViewerUSA 2 жыл бұрын
Magua from Last of the Mohicans has been ranked the most evil villain in American fiction both cinema and literature. With literally no redeeming traits he could possibly be the Most Evil fictional character you will ever cover. The embodiment of racism, self-loathing, betrayal, wrath, greed, lust, violence, wanton lack of self-control, and envy; Magua of Last of the Mohicans stands as the personification of the evil that lurks inside the psyche of America.
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
I understand magua, he just want revenge After all he went through and it's just human..i don't see him as the absolute evil considering the fact he was just a reaction to white people evil deeds to him..
@ViewerUSA
@ViewerUSA 2 жыл бұрын
@@fideletamo4292 Ah but it is way deeper than that. Magua doesn't just hate the white people, he also hates the natives, and actually he pretty much hates everyone starting with himself. He brings dishonor to his tribe by being a frequent drunk. His wife left him and went with another person. Magua actually starts his descent into hatred because he is abducted by the Mohawks, not the white people, and this will stay with Magua as he does not just hate the white people but hates the natives also. It is a classic case of Magua hates all the other races and even his own race because of his own shortcomings, and rather than deal with his shortcomings, Magua blames everyone else. Magua wishes to destroy the white people, Munro and his seed, because Munro punished him for his wanton drunken behavior, and this is where he begins to hate white people. Magua not only hates white people and the natives, but also lusts for them as when given the chance to get his revenge he tries to keep either Cora or Alice (depending on the book or movie, and of note in the book Cora is actually a mixed black woman) to turn into his sex slave. This shows Magua is not just inspired purely for revenge but is deeply evil with no love nor a sense of actual justice, but a spirit of domination and pure evil. Magua turns against all the white people British and French, but also turns against all the tribes too and plays them all against each other even as he betrays them all too. Not only does Magua seek to kill the white people, he seeks become them also. In both book and movie Magua shows his true evil in the judgement of the Huron elder when he shows that he would seek to not only wipe out and fight the white people, but to also dominate the other tribes and rob them or destroy them also. At the climax of his evil Magua kills Uncas leading Chingachcook to become the Last of the Mohicans. In the movie he can only be stopped by the pure love of a father bereft of his only son whom Magua killed. In the book Magua is shot by Hawkeye the adopted white son of Chingachcook and his foil, but this only serves to send Magua off the cliff where even then he is shouting his rebellious defiance to the end.
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
@@ViewerUSA thanks, i only Saw the movie..Years ago and i don't remember exactly why he hated munrow but i remember him talking about losing his wife who married another man After she thought he was killed..that's the only thing i remember about him..and Also the fact that Hawkeye said white people were dumb or something lol..and munrow being disrespectful toward the mohicans enough to make his first daughter angry lol... since white people brought alcohol to the natives, maybe they gave magua the possibility to blame them for his alcoholism
@ViewerUSA
@ViewerUSA 2 жыл бұрын
On the surface it looks like just revenge where one could get sympathy for Magua, but this is how he deceives the various races and characters, but in truth Magua has no real redeeming quality and Magua's hatred is deeper than just revenge. Much of it stems from Magua's inability to accept responsibility for his own evil actions. Magua's french name really shows his character moreso, Le Renard Subtil (The Sly Fox). Magua is accepted by both the white races in the story the British and French but he simply uses them and betrays them and plays them against each other. Magua is accepted by the various tribes of the natives, in the book this is shown moreso but also is in the movie to a degree, but he also betrays all of them too and plays them against each other and against the whites also. Even in the movie, near the climax Magua goes and appeals to the chief of the Huron, whom even rules in judgement largely in Magua's favor, with the exception that the Huron elder refuses to become like the white people seeking to keep his own culture, and even then Magua spites the elder and then seeks to go to the west Huron to try to get an even more wicked judgement, which of course does not happen as this leads into the climax of Magua killing Uncas and then himself being killed either by Chigachcook the righteous father whom gets a pure revenge on Magua, or as in the book, killed by being shot by Hawkeye and slipping and falling off the cliff where Magua plummets to his death hurling his hatred and abuse to the end.
@cashthecurator666
@cashthecurator666 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos is probably my favorite cinematic villain because of his motives as well as his design and mannerisms. But I think you described the reason why Thanos is so terrifying and why he had the idea for mass genocide in the first place: he's too logical for his own good. A friend of mine brought that up too, saying Thanos acts logically first rather than emotionally. He's sort of like the reverse Darth Vader, who is tied with Emperor Palpatine as my second favorite cinematic villain. While Vader did what he did out of sadism, hatred, greed, and misery, Thanos just did what he did out of a place of cold logic. And because of that, Thanos arguably became even more of a monster than Vader, which is really saying something.
@eliotsorensen8709
@eliotsorensen8709 2 жыл бұрын
I've been really hoping for this one, thank you so much!
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