Trying Zig Part 1

[@GabeSullice]

tar -czf = 'Compress Ze Files!' tar -xzf = 'eXtract Ze Files!'

[@mgord9518]

This falls apart when you want to use other compression than gzip unfortunately

[@pavelperina7629]

Create archive as a gZip from Files eXtract archive which is gZipped into Files i believe - is necessary only for FreeBSD tar, not GNU tar

[@mgord9518]

@@pavelperina7629 Just tried it, bsd tar (at least the libarchive one) autodetects compression. So you can use a simple `tar xf [TARBALL]` with both gnu and bsd tar. Pretty sure bsd tar even works with zip, cpio and a few other archives

[@TheoParis]

@@mgord9518 me when bsdtar exists

[@Endelin]

KZbin has a button to "Translate to English" 😂😂

[@Ellefsen97]

I've been loving to create things in C after learning the language. I'm absolutely in love with how Zig looks after this video. I need the part 2 asap :)

[@InXLsisDeo]

Unfortunately, Zig also has its own pain points: 1. the documentation is an afterthought. Many modules are completely undocumented, you have to read the source code. There is next to zero examples, and basically, the documentation is chatGPT or Claude AI. This is a major roadblock for newcomers to the language and makes it unsuitable for large scale use in enterprises. The documentation problem could be solved almost overnight if it was a wiki. But instead, the main documentation is a single 15,000 lines HTML file. Horrible to maintain and impossible to contribute to because your changes are unlikely to be merged unless they are deemed of very high quality. 2. no interfaces or traits. Yes they can be "simulated" with some patterns, but that makes for ugly and non standard code 3. not sure why some functions are compiler functions instead of being in the standard library. That is super ugly, especially when you do math. I wish @as() was a keyword. OTOH why do you have to write @mod(a, b) instead of a % b like in most other languages ? And why does this exist in the first place when there is also mod(a, b) in the std lib ? Why is @Vector a compiler intrinsic instead of being a standard library container ??? Doesn't make any sense to me and there is zero justification in the documentation as to why that is so. 4. no function overloading. I suppose this is to preserve compatibility with C ? 5. no "private". I think this is a mistake. 6. no lambdas, but that is a design choice that I can understand. 7. no return tuples à la Python, probably a limitation to preserve compatibility with C Then there are some minor inconveniences that make the code uglier than it should, like the fact that you can't associate a context to an error, you have to define a struct for that, or the fact that you have to declare a variable before a while() with a counter, but I can live with those. My major gripes are points 1 to 5. Of course, next to C, Zig is extremely palatable.

[@gathda]

I'm going to wait for Zag, its successor.

[@plaintext7288]

Hades mentioned

[@ericjmorey]

You're looking to Zag when you should Zig

[@camwhit8892]

Im getting red black tree flashbacks

[@chogerlate325]

We already have Cloud though

[@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683]

Zag will just be zig but with C syntax instead of Zigs horrendous syntax. I believe C has the best syntax of any language ever except maybe lisp

[@ciscoserrano]

Love this. And I am EAGERLY waiting for you to try out The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs book.

[@stretch8390]

Is that something he has said he's going to do? Would be interesting.

[@pemifo260]

x stands for extract, c stands for compress z stands for gzip, j stands for bzip2 f stands for: "next thing i'm going to write in the terminal will be the file"

[@Rahinser]

"c" stands for create though, as in creating a new archive file. You can still use "c" without needing to actually compress anything

[@pemifo260]

@@Rahinser Thanks!

[@RR-hl6zi]

​@@Rahinser I misread the first part of your comment as 'create thought'. It made sense at that moment, somehow.

[@LukasRotermund]

Wow, I think I'm in love with zig... 🧡 this is just amazing

[@Ramtechbytes]

I cant wait to come back one day and understand what hes talkong about. He definitely gives us all a goal to strive for knowledge wise.

[@ZenonLite]

I’m loving these Zig videos!

[@TheHeavenlyDemonSupreme]

Anyone know what's allowing the cursor to take on the currently hovered/selected text's colour? I'm interested in whether it's a setting or something you can configure in vim/neovim, or if I'd be able to set it up in other editors.

[@TurtleKwitty]

That's just how terminals work

[@TheHeavenlyDemonSupreme]

Update: I found out that it's the `gui=reverse` option when setting highlights, so I can `:highlight Visual gui=reverse` to get it enabled for Visual mode selections at the very least so far.

[@demarcorr]

poor man cant afford a mouse 😥 sending thoughts and prayers until you get one and use it 🙏

[@Kruglord]

1:26:30 He's right about flow control being `goto`s, but the main thing to remember is, the compiler is allowed to use `goto`, the programmer is not.

[@jdmaze1]

I feel like Rust is to Zig, as Pascal was to C. Pascal was first, but ultimately lost out to C as the systems language of choice.

[@haxagonusdyad8981]

Hey Theprimagen I think you're so talented at entertaining that you can entertain people even when not programming. Branch out!

[@PaulSebastianM]

The ability to think in high level abstractions is what distinguishes a good software engineer.

[@ibrahimhussain3248]

He presses enter key like says ya ya ya ya ya ya

[@gathda]

What are you using at 13:16 to autocomplete with a menu? Is that part of zsh? I've been looking and I can find it.

[@vajsadie702]

That's zsh's autocomplete

[@gathda]

@@vajsadie702 Thanks! I will have to get started with zsh then.

[@iWillAvert]

I can't speak too much on it as I've had too many issues to want to continue with using it, but that may have been a bad interaction with neovim & tmux @ 25:25. In my case, I was using the LazyVim flavor of neovim and any attempt to use it under tmux was INCREDIBLY slow and buggy. Situations like that were the norm for me, and has held me back from really learning tmux until I get more comfortable modifying neovim myself. I don't know if it was the package as a whole or if it was a certain plugin causing it. So far, only a vanilla install of neovim or a minimally modified version of it work for me with tmux. I should also note that my experience was on Arch with upper-mid range hardware from like 2016 so it may or may not be the same or a similar issue for you.

[@tato-chip7612]

today we learned prime gives his wife night terrors. Might be mumbling about react in his sleep.

[@InforSpirit]

Ghost stories are product of survivor bias and illusory correlation reinforcement. Nobody would repeat of story: 'I felt running kid behind and it froze my spine to solid, but next day I spoke to my friend and we concluded it's to be product of stress.' (Part of your brain knows your kid is not in home, but other part expect your kid to be at home and running. It is similar miss match between prediction and reality when you miss a step. Or you put your phone into wrong pocket than usual and cannot find it...) But, if you next day talk to friend and he tells you about how your house has been built onto old Indian cementary, then you have a ghost story... In stress Your body will make references to memory and modifies your input before you made any conclusion of situation. PTSD modifies your sensory input to be closer to worst case scenario than it is.

[@InforSpirit]

If you would remember all dreams when you wake up, you would not believe a ghost stories. Dreams are constantly weird and most of material has nothing to do with reality. Other part has some predictive/real reference, but it doesn't mean those predictions will have any impact (also has dangers of self-fullfilling prophecy). I have seen death person in dream many times, I have seen many alive person in dream, I have been many other person in dreams. I have died in dream. I have felt how walking trough walls feel, how individuals class pains go trough my body. I have been child again in school, many times. And then comes more bizarre stuff when you realize in dream that you are talking with yourself via memory construct of other person... Human brain is insane construct.

[@mehowop]

So how you explain fact that few independent persons ( strangers for each other ) have the same experience of ghost, one person sow that ghost in house. Later after fact of experience ghost ( so its not illusion, its not product of hearing story before and so one, your comment become BS in that case ) my friend was found information about that in fact there was living in past such a man who OFC is dead for long time. "Human brain is insane construct." "Part of your brain knows your kid is not in home" Brain know nothing, brain cant know. Brain is not source of experience, this is reason why you sound like someone who dont know what is talking about. If your brain produce experience, than you are solipsist. It means that entire universe and brain themself is your imagination. Materialism is dead and you repeat poop culture.

[@InforSpirit]

@@mehowop Experience is real and I am not really here to take that away. When I am dreaming and my living room grows many trees, the experience is real until I shift state of mind and woke. Do we have same experience when I say 'Dog' ? I bet we do not. I have no Idea where and when you will read this message. We don't have same history, nor live in same country (by pure statistics), so experience of word 'Dog' will not be same. Only fragile words to communicate. Does dog evoke a memory of puppy or a barking danger? Esoteric term of ghost is less shared experience. We could use same word but mean totally different thing. Humans also tend to stick social conventions, even if those are silly or harmfull. It is easier to go with flow. Would you make any special note after week of research and not found any correlation between ghost and names? Would you go to your favorite social media and go to tell how much time was wasted? Only positive results are remembered. It felt to me that you canno't have experiences without external sources? Maybe you are one of people with aphantasia, who cannot see or hear nothing when someone tells to imagine a fresh apple falling in summer breeze. My personal experieence is in total opposite Brain is in feedback loop to itself, some information comes from outside from body, some from inside of body. Thinking is speaking your lips closed and those nonspoken words will go back to brain as input as if you open you mouth hear your words. What is desperation or fear of future more than product of ones own brain? Nobody is threatening you, but you can still have fear and anxiety of next unpaid mortage. There is no tiger to jump on your throat. Only internal experience and you can shift this experience by thinking differently. We canno't never experience full world, only an subset of all information of true world interpreted by bodily sensors and brain. There is two logical possibillities: Either your mind is millionth fraction of mine or we are different interpreter of this shared material world.

[@CrazyLuke11]

What color scheme is that?

[@UwU-dx5hu]

Same question me

[@victenbokum9722]

gruvbox

[@tuftman6092]

I'm also getting into zig atm

[@kiratornator]

Wow cool idea to encode by squares especially for colours

[@johanavril1691]

wait he's making compression for ascii art ? is that right ? anyone know why btw ?

[@no.no.4680]

An ASCII graphics engine. Why? I don't know. I think it's just for fun.

[@johanavril1691]

@@no.no.4680 ho yeah yeah but where in the engine do you need compression ? Is this a remote engine thing ?

[@SoibaisteAc]

The idea is the game engine runs on server that users can ssh into (or view in a web front end) that sends down a live view of the game to get around live stream latency. The compression is just to save on bandwidth so you aren't sending down every byte for every frame to thousands of clients.

[@jdmaze1]

My goodness, your chat makes me laugh so hard sometimes.... :)

[@brandonphilander661]

Would love to see that Odin video.

[@Sangreenify]

What did you use to config your nvim

[@patrickshepherd1341]

Fun fact: I was a TA for the guy who made quad trees for like a year+

[@_CJ_]

well this is nice, I found that there is rustlings... so now can try both rust and zig without creating some own project (that I would never finish :D )... Yea that may be obvious to other but I never searched for it, was just thinking that I should try rust/zig one day... today sounds good :)

[@jogurtnaturalny]

Flip, an extra zoom effect? Damn, did Prime give you another bred slice?

[@simplemanideas4719]

Didnt Primeagen mention he had done 2 weeks of learning zig, 11months ago. I think from that old 11 month old video i got the inspiration to do the ziglings. Therefore I am kind of confused? But anyway i am happy to listen and maybe learn something new about zig.

[@element1111]

yes he did check out zig, but only at a brief glance, so this is a more involved study

[@InXLsisDeo]

Yes he already knew Zig.

[@luanbravo4401]

TheVimeagen lives! And it's glorious

[@EditsByShobhit]

THE STREAMS ARE BACK ON THIS CHANNEL, LET'S GO

[@sweetbabyalaska]

using long flags with tar is much easier, tar --verbose --extract --file output.tar.gz or tar --create --file out.tar.gz input-files

[@eduardabramovich1216]

We are waiting for you to build something in Odin

[@user-lz2oh9zz4y]

I'm 1 hour in and I just learned that ghosts have bank accounts

[@JS-ii3rn]

Why is this series missing like 10 examples in the middle between the two videos?

[@slightlyfaulty]

TIL @ThePrimeagen uses Debian, rated the best distro by 9/10 grandmothers 👵🏻

[@UwU-dx5hu]

What color theme is he using 😮

[@ForeverZer0]

Don't recognize it, but It looks like gruvbox and rose pine had a child.

[@UwU-dx5hu]

@@ForeverZer0 🤣🤣

[@TheLummen.]

Things are getting exciting !

[@Josephtspringer]

What theme is that ?

[@roninski6538]

kinda cute you have Thor's stream running in the background ngl

[@keithgell8913]

OK I want to learn Zig. Is there a book?

[@bt64u30]

6:36 the answer was std for static tree dynamically even rhymes...

[@xpmon]

When Zig++?

[@MadMatty72]

Ghosts no, aliens in UFOs yes.

[@JackDespero]

What is worse than a while loop? Looping for a while.

[@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683]

hell yeah, I am trying to learn zig right now

[@hoefkensj]

I'm prolly way to late with this and or it will prolly never reach its target , but ive already tried doing this using a different lang. and i can already tell this wont work :) unless you really restrict it to colors but even then ... \x1b[38;2;255;255;255m just for foreground color seems a bit mutch to fit in a single byte

[@replacehumans]

There is plenty confusing topics in here, but writing an S from the bottom up ( 6:26 ) blows my mind the most

[@hamedkmg42]

Niiiice, we want more of ZIG lang. Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

[@tigranrostomyan9231]

I still waiting for 10 weeks with odin…

[@The1RandomFool]

I've seen a few people try out Zig, and it seems a fair number of people in their chats don't like the syntax.

[@ForeverZer0]

You will never please everyone with syntax. Python is a popular syntax and uses significant whitespace, proof that peoples' opinions on syntax should never be trusted.

[@weakspirit_]

zigma

[@alexpyattaev]

Zig broke Prime's after just 1 hour...

[@maxoumimaro]

I love the basis of Zig. It is well rounded and does everything you wish a low level programming language to do. My problem is I still am a c++ dev and kind of want to create a Zig++ for the same reason C is great but not suited if you want to write bigger applications xD

[@natsuzkan]

Wasn't the D language kind of supposed to fill the niche of less-shitty C++?

[@maxoumimaro]

@@natsuzkan to be honest, I have never looked at D nor have I heard anyone try to tell me it is something to look up

[@natsuzkan]

@@maxoumimaro Your comment reminded me of its existence. Before that, I hadn't thought about it in the last decade, at least. The project is apparently still active but sounds like it's been falling apart. The IRS doesn't show a 2022 or 2023 tax return for their 501(c)(3). edit: To be fair to them, the IRS also only shows up to 2021 for The Zig Software Foundation. I'm just saying I have no window into their finances since after their contributor/maintainer drama popped off.

[@InXLsisDeo]

@@natsuzkan D is a great language and you should definitely look it up. You can think of it as a mix of C++ and Python. It's easier than both C++ and Rust, and faster and more powerful than Go. The main gripe people have with it is it's mostly garbage collected. And yes, the project has unfortunately lost steam with the departure of Andrei Alexandrescu, but it's definitely not falling apart.

[@tauiin]

what happened to ocaml lmao

[@Xemptuous]

I'm excited to see your perspective after using Zig for a while. I have personally disliked Rust compared to Zig, felt like the linux kernel should have used Zig instead of Rust, and always hated the borrow checker, lifetimes, and overall compiler errors in Rust stoppibg me from doing stuff. Curious to hear your thoughts after using Zig for a while

[@ITSecNEO]

Sure xD Yeet that 0.13 Zig Version right into the Linux Kernel, which runs on millions of safety critical servers 😂😂😂😂 Some people here living in their own worlds for sure xD

[@johnbruhling8018]

They its your right ear that rings when its something good, idk

[@tanko.reactions176]

yo prime, next time you feel your wife is gonna have to have a night terror attack, try this: sit upright, and point all your limb openings (soles of your feet and your hands) upwards, to the best of your abilities: sit cross legged with your hands on your knees, palms facing up. then breath in super relaxed and relax every single muscle with intention, scan across your body and use the intention of "letting go" at that muscle and feel that you are relaxing it beyond what the point you have relaxed them already --> you should feel that there is much more to let go and much more that is being let go. use this progression: - feet, - lower legs, upper legs, - lower torso, upper torso, - upper arms, lower arms, hands, - neck, - chin, mouth, cheeks, eyes, eyebrows, forehead, top of the skull. this should take roughly 1-2 minutes. once all of that is done, your are ready: now muster up as much of the emotion of love for as long as you can and direct it towards your wife, putting her in a protective shield of energy. visualize this, feel the strong emotion of love pouring out of you visibly (with closed eyes), going towards her and creating a shield. make it so that nothing interferes with the emotion, no random thoughts, no worries, nothing. pure unadulterated love. time this for when she is about to have a night terror attack. PS: for those curious what i'm prescribing...: he is preparing his 5h body, which is the physical body, so that the 4th body (the energy body) can interact and emit energy much better. the 4th body is what is his antenna, what helps him pick up that his wife is gonna have the attack soon (its an energy phenomenon, if a person is a lucid dreamer or astral projector, their 5th and 4th body are not bound tightly, so they can easily separate, thus the attack is her simply piercing in the astral domain, with a paralyzed body, because she is partly separated, but not fully - because she is a noob or completely unaware of that dimension to reality or simply skill issues; her prophetic dreams are due to that also, she is unintentionally getting glimpses of the astral plane, which others call the first heaven [out of 7]). he is gonna use his 3rd body - the emotional body, to emanate the strongest emotion a human is capable of: love. that is gonna cause the energy body to emit bursts of intense energy. he may physically feel goosebumps or energy running up and down his body. that energy will radiate and penetrate his wife's energy bubble. when his wife starts seeing some angels/demons or weird things due to piercing and seeing into the astral plane and their inhabitants, she will be guarded by that energetic shield her husband is continually providing for her. the effectiveness of all of this depends solely on how well you can follow the instructions. 100% physical relaxation + 100% unwavering concentration on the emotion of love which you somehow ought to be able to summon. the buddhists call this "metta meditation" (love meditation). there is no force in the universe that can mess with it, it is the power of God and God is literally love.. PPS: for naysayers and those who are 100% materalists... go look into research that proves telepathy and similar energetic phenomena. there are studies which are subject to the scientific method. there have been those who wanted to debunk it and repeated the process and came to the same conclusions. look into the work of Dr. Rupert Sheldrake specifically and Dr. Dean Radin if you want more weirdness. telepathy between pets and owners has been proven already! if you dare to go beyond what science has yet captured, look into yogic texts, as that is the domain they specialize in. these things are energy phenomena which humans are capable of. that is why religion will never leave humanity!

[@djupstaten2328]

Are you spamming intermittent ads on purpose? The current frequency is a little much. It barely takes minutes for youtube to insert yet another ad block.

[@EricNantel]

Can Zig replace C++?

[@pipboy214]

for writing hello world, yes

[@juststudying1019]

Man at this point nothing can replace C++ even if they invent a new perfect fastest language in the universe, C++ is everywhere. btw I hate c++ but it is the truth 😂😂

[@micaelviana]

​@juststudying1019 agree, all of these new fancy languages desire to kill C++, but C++ is already in a lot of places, is like Java, you don't kill Java

[@sid4579]

@@micaelviana we should tho, to build more maintainable faster systems. I hate these stupid languages, especially Java.

[@juststudying1019]

@@sid4579 that's very unrealistic though, to be honest we programmers find negative things about anything, I have been programming for 7 years now and I have never seen a programmer satisfied with the language he/she uses. Programming itself is hard and it feels sometimes unmaintainable.

[@sporefergieboy10]

Zigger pride Worldwide

[@lordeji655]

Funny man says funny words. And i like it.

[@nevokrien95]

Packing it would be bad they don't even pack u8 most the time. It would slow everything down because u can't use simd.

[@NickSandM]

my mans remaking video compression for ascii

[@UwU-dx5hu]

He is a Software engineer

[@ammertos1517]

I don't understand why someone wants to play ASCII Doom

[@iukys3889]

Zigs and ghosts

[@TheOnlyJura]

Another day another hello world

[@zsomborgyenge4359]

1:07:00 I didn't believe in them until I personally experienced that they exist.

[@bigtallpaul]

1:03:25 Ghost story time

[@darkpikachu_.]

what the heck is u19

[@Ellefsen97]

It's an unsigned 19 bit integer. The formula for the range of numbers an integer can store is: 2^n - 1, so in the case of u19 it can hold from 0-524287 (2^19 - 1)

[@mgord9518]

Zig supports arbitrary width integers, so it's a 19 bit unsigned int. They're really useful for things like packed bitfields.

[@tanko.reactions176]

regarding the ghost story issues - im a believer.. humans are capable of differentiating fiction from whats real. our superhero movies will not be mistaken as us believing in those things literally, thousands years later. it is evident from how we consume that media, for anyone who reads about it in history books way down the road, that we understand its "fiction". we did NOT evolve that hard in the last 2-3k years, so the avg. Joe was as smart and discerning as any person today, perhaps even smarter if we consider all the great philosophers of those times. they may not have had the modern gadgets we do, but they surely did not lack in wisdom. so in light of all of this, the consistent existence of ghost stories can not be ignored. here is my best educated guess in that regard: every person has an energetic double. that double is super imposed on the physical body and in fact controls it. like russian dolls, we have in fact a couple of these bodies as ancient scriptures teach (some go as far as stating 5, in this ascending order: phsyical < energy < emotion < mind < consciousness). when a person dies, the higher vessels depart form the physical body. this departure happens via an energetic explosion of some sort, its a violent division if death does not occur naturally. that energetic radiation imprints the surroundings with the persons characteristics: appearance, behavior, voice/sound, smell, etc. that radiation diminishes over time, id say it stays for up to 20-30 years (number i pulled out of my ass), perhaps up to 100. it does not stay indefinitely, otherwise every location on the whole planet would be such a spot and this is not the case. and this radiation can be cleansed by those who know how, most of which happens with a proper burial and certain ceremonies. now when another person is in such a location which is energetically imprinted and they unintentionally manage to power it on through their own energy (adrenaline, shock, depression - any super strong emotion, as emotions come from the body which is one level above the energy body, thus it controls the energy body). then what happens is that you get a holographic/hallucinogenic experience about the murdered person. that is what we call a "ghost". is it the person itself? according to various yogis -> no, its merely an energetic shell. i am practically 99.99% sure of this theory, considering how i am 100% sure about very related stuff (chi/prana and personal experience).

[@salim444]

so zig is cool now, gotta use bf for my side projects now

[@MrAlanCristhian]

I hope he some day try c

[@leanghok120]

Damn first time being this early

[@bzboii]

1:05:50 actual peak comedy

[@groknet]

Some ghost stories come from carbon monoxide poisoning…

[@SHuRiKeN1812]

Gold Zigger

[@Xkonti]

Nim is so much more fun!

[@windwalkerrangerdm]

typical modern programming workflow. spend at least 30 minutes trying to set up your coding environment, hooping through libraries and git branch errors, 250 kpm but 5 apm...

[@LuciusIngemar-b1v]

Martinez Mary Lewis Matthew Wilson Richard

[@SnareGG]

George wwwwdwww Bush

[@MudroZvon]

Stop wasting time with zig. the time has not come yet

[@NicolásMendoza-v8e]

OOh Let me guess....Another programming language, Naaah

[@GAMINGAPOSTLEJ]

weird

[@sniperslayerss1356]

NO VIEWS!! FIRST

[@jenwans3055]

Bro fell off

[@micaelviana]

No views? Washed

[@tubeincompetence]

Tells people they are wrong about "being religious", then gets it wrong.. :) Well, it's up to you what you mean with the word I guess, but mostly it's understood to be related to religion, and dictionaries support this interpretation.

[@ImranSheikh-kg4qd]

Zig is the worst language i have ever seen

[@natsuzkan]

You haven't seen enough languages

[@m4rt_]

jai is better

[@PaulSebastianM]

Very profound.

[@Tezla0]

Jai is a non-existent language. It can't be better

[@mgord9518]

Has the compiler even been released yet?

[@Presenter2]

Why? What language aspects are better done in Jai than in Zig?

[@air_ballon]

28:53

[@IvanStamenkovicSeemsIndie]

dude stop wasting time, just use asdf to install stuff....

[@keithjohnson6510]

Prime = Face of Rust --->> Prime = Face of Zig/Go/Ocaml/Odin..... :), me thinks the Rust community has lost it's greatest ambassador..

[@KushLemon]

You're grossly out of touch.

[@smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo]

he's a web developer, that's what web developers do. in 2 years he will denounce go and zig for something else. i'm predicting elixir, and he will also declare that types are too complex and slow development speed. it's in their nature.

[@1apostoli]

@@smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lohe is not a web developer??

[@smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo]

@@1apostolithat's what he did at netflix