TheViper's ONE MILLION Arbalests!

[@T90Official]

Thoughts on this strategy? “Completely broken” comes to mind when archers destroy buildings faster than siege. More World Cup 2v2 action coming to KZbin soon!

[@jakubwisniewski1827]

Wouldnt it be viable to counter this with berbers? Horse skirms (forgot the name) and camel archers

[@flygonbreloom]

I mean, it only works if there's a skill disparity between the players, right? It's broken in the sense that it shouldn't be possible to achieve unless there's assisting factors.

[@KageMinowara]

I feel both impressed and disgusted at the same time.

[@quakesquakes]

@@flygonbreloom Don't bring logic into this sir. *Viper destroys me w Spanish archers* T90: OMG THIS IS bRoKeN!

[@Gevaudan1471]

Wouldnt onagers be a viable counter?

[@colbunkmust]

True fact: Saladin tried to ally with the Mayans at the battle of Jaffa but Richard the Lionhearted banned that civ pick which is why he lost.

[@harishsubramanian1241]

Also, Motamid was in exile.

[@MickeyasGilliady]

he didn't lose that battle tho. your fact is more like false

[@colbunkmust]

@@MickeyasGilliady Are you saying Saladin won the Battle of Jaffa in 1192? Cuz he certainly didn't...

[@MickeyasGilliady]

@@colbunkmust I only said he didn’t lose

[@colbunkmust]

@@MickeyasGilliady Saladin did lose, his army was forced to retreat after failing to push the English army out of Jaffa, and lost hundreds of men before his army routed from the field. The English and Italian contingent only reported a few soldiers lost. In the words of Baha' al-Din a Muslim historian present at the battle “I have been assured … that on that day the king of England, lance in hand, rode along the whole length of our army from right to left, and not one of our soldiers left the ranks to attack him. The Sultan was wroth thereat and left the battlefield in anger…” Sounds like gg to me.

[@ichigoblackTWD]

MbL's largest military: 1 11

[@ADCFproductions]

and he didn't even have to produce it xD

[@thomatrix3d524]

@@ADCFproductions he actually did, 11 he made A ram 🤣

[@ADCFproductions]

@@thomatrix3d524 argh i thought it was the scout!! XD 48

[@blarch2]

The scout died before the ram was created.

[@DommHavai]

Doesn't need more to defeat his opponents

[@LilGamingYes]

"Will the castle go up before it's completed?" -T90 2020

[@cliff9136]

Knew I wouldn’t be the only 1 to catch that literary gem!

[@JamesJackel]

@@cliff9136 Literary? 11

[@cliff9136]

@@JamesJackel yes

[@ucallmeschnitzel]

"Most ridiculous thing I've ever seen: Mbl building houses."

[@cynthiathornton5762]

13:48

[@mikhaogung]

I am convinced this one game is single-handedly responsible for the removal of the Obsidian Arrow upgrade

[@neelchaudhary6182]

True dat. Viper be breaking strats like you never know before

[@ahcw2]

yeah, devs overreacted, skill gap was huge and made strategy look more op that it actually was.

[@Jamesh-riffs]

@@ahcw2I think it was more due to the fact that a handful or crossbowmen (not even arbalest) could level walls and castles.

[@chanky1000]

Arbalest melting a castle faster than siege : now I’ve seen everything

[@koltdourden1]

How the f* that was possible?

[@benjiddragon5247]

@@koltdourden1 saracens teambonus + maya castle tech ^^

[@antondeleon3906]

I think my favorite memory of Team Norway using this strat was back in a different WC when, midway through the game, roughly this exchange happened: MBL: "Viper? Do we have...is there...like..." Viper: "Yes MBL?" MBL: "Backup plan?" Viper: "Oh, ok, sure. What is it?" MBL: (laughs) "I'm asking." Viper: "Oh. (laughs) No. We don't need backup plan, this will work."

[@kungfujesus1874]

Hhhhnb BB h

[@tomascanevaro4292]

Obsidian arrows + saracen teammate = Tsar bomb

[@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman]

It's like mini trebuchet

[@britneyspheres7yearsago11]

Tsaracens

[@doge-pal]

Reminds me of the Gastraphetes unit in Age of Mythology. So fun to destroy buildings with those guys

[@illunati-morninstar]

LMAO

[@placer7412]

@@doge-pal yooo i loved those bad boys, the sound of all the arrows hitting the building at the same time lol

[@Miraideat]

At 13:31 we discover Mbl has finally found a solution to getting housed

[@Redhairedviking09]

"Viper has more archery ranges than I have friends". So relatable!

[@neelchaudhary6182]

Yup

[@Gauss4724]

Me: flaming arrows cannot melt steel beams. Norway A: hold my beer

[@thomasfplm]

Norway A: maybe not, but it can melt stone

[@harishsubramanian1241]

The game that caused Obsidian Arrows to be removed from the Mayans Tech Tree.

[@albertonavarro8904]

RIP Siege arbalest. We'll always remember you.

[@plz7210]

It's no longer a thing

[@harishsubramanian1241]

@@plz7210 learn to comprehend what you read

[@Janovich]

"vipey vipey, im dying" lmao now im dying too

[@lilpeach101]

Now I definitely know I'm a Low elo legend. I main Mayans and I researched obsidian arrows for my plumes plenty times, thanks for the techtip T90.

[@azazelfallen2553]

As someone from Czech republic, this makes me happy, even though czech team lost. If they played against anyone else, than Viper and MBL, they would have most likely won.

[@patrikkopejtko9330]

I wasn't expecting them playing on such high level! Very interesting game! O:)

[@Dunewarrior00]

Man I was cheering them on the entire time. They played their hearts out.

[@Doubleranged1]

@@Dunewarrior00 this is what is great about aoe2 competitive. People cheering on good gameplay. Such a difference from many other esports.

[@QWERTY-gp8fd]

@@Doubleranged1 which esport dont have fans that cheer for good players? have u ever seen dota 2 tournaments such as manila major 2016,ti3 grand final, ti5 grand final? its hype af. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKuuk41jidKSj9U&ab_channel=PutTankInAMall kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnK3XoJ7pqmjgJI&ab_channel=hOlyhexOr kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXbPiXqiobmjppI&ab_channel=NoobFromUA kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIu0qWaFpZmSpbs&ab_channel=NoobFromUA kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJ6bYodoodiMo6c&ab_channel=NAVIDota2 just watch these and tell me its not hype. t90 is good caster but he lacks hype compared to top tier dota 2 casters.

[@amosdraak3536]

Was T90 making a joke saying he wishes he was as good as his brother, or does he have another brother that’s actually real good at AOE2? I know he has one brother who’s not very good at all.

[@yoyodude-aoe2726]

And boys and girls that's how we lost Obsidian arrows.

[@JanusForssling]

Rip. Never forget

[@yoyodude-aoe2726]

@@JanusForssling Obsidian arrow 2.0 is okay too

[@theinnkeeper768]

@@yoyodude-aoe2726 - Yeah I feel like the skirmisher upgrade is just as good. Skirmishers are a common answer to Mayans and now they dominate fights where they match skirm for skirm.

[@ia5131]

Hi I'm from Korea, and I started playing AOE2 last week! I've been watching your KZbin videos for like a month, and finally I decided to play this game, not only watch it :D This game needs several different strategies and good mechanics, so it's very very tough to learn. Watching your videos helped me a lot, I wanna thank you!! I wanna see more videos like this, in which pro players show insane strategies and skills!

[@Last_March_of_the_Gents]

If you are learning I highly recommend spirit of the laws videos. He breaks down everything about the game

[@anotherhumanbeing7078]

Vipey! Vipey! I am dying... :D 15:52

[@ayush885]

The good old days, when Bombard Arbalests was still a thing.

[@JCDenton2012Modder]

Tau combat strategy, "That's a pretty army you got there... good luck getting close enough to use it."

[@guillermococofrito9196]

The imperium will sacrifice billions to do it if necessary. Even if it not necessary.

[@zacharytaylor2423]

I like how you uploaded this the same day they announced an obsidian arrows nerf. No longer does double damage against the stone armor class.

[@Thatoneguezzt]

11 shots of this army took down the castle...

[@Bullshlaha]

VIPY, VIPY, IM DYING!

[@kalvin1608]

If my castles died to archers i'd instantly resign!!

[@raxorlp9932]

becaus its stupid af :D

[@davidherring6835]

18:32 at this point we say "no do prdele" in Czechia. Very similar to "Oh shit"...

[@LilGamingYes]

23:15 the very thin dark green line... Don't diss the holy ram!

[@varunmanjunath9123]

xD

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

Talking about the Norway troll when someone chose yellow in a game against Viper.

[@doge-pal]

This game reminds me of the Gastraphetes unit in Age of Mythology. So fun to destroy buildings with those guys

[@Minimeister317]

Was amazing to watch Viper melt those walls, but with the november update, obsidian arrows nolonger grants bonus damage towards walls, towers and gates.

[@koltdourden1]

In update 44725 for the Definitive Edition, it was replaced by Hul'che Javelineers. (Just found this)

[@koltdourden1]

Plumed Archers do not benefit from Obsidian Arrows. When playing in team games and if the Mayan player has a Saracen ally, it also adds the team bonus of +2 attack bonus against buildings for Archers for a total of +8.

[@ashleyd9310]

RIP obsidian arrows

[@ajinkyachadha]

I love how viper was 2 vs 1 and then he 1 vs 2. Absolute.

[@lib-center96]

21:55 Nope, Viper still managed to win in the Arbs v Knights battle in the South

[@gwfarmer1321]

im so glad this video was recommended to me I use to watch these all the time then they just went away for me.

[@MTGHunter]

Arb go brrrr

[@jackboggs5512]

When you were saying “looking at vipers eco” I was like t90, we are looking at blue we can’t look at vipers eco. Little did I pay attention to the fact that viper was not on his yellow!

[@amosdraak3536]

🤣

[@acefreak9561]

Pros using noob strats with extra steps aaaaa i love it

15:43 Starfox 64 references, AMAZING!

[@shreddershredderer6585]

15:35 Hell is about to break loose and you thought this was winnable for Czech Republic B?! Sry, but you are hilarious xD

[@justinayers3589]

i miss obsidian arrow

[@RoTz0101]

20:29 Viper missplay, he left a lot of the arbalest AFK next to the trees. Otherwise he would've probably won that fight

[@AgeofNoob]

Folks I suggest you also check out Nili's cast of this game - he roasts DracKeN on another level.. :D

[@st.p.2667]

That was really fun, especially murder holes.

[@Wegrem]

i just cant watch his videos, his accent annoys me on an unbelievable level lol

[@emilioterral8304]

"I wish I was as good as my brother" I only play with my brothers....

[@kcapt96]

Broken strat but well played from the chezch brothers.

[@PaEldorado]

Already having seen the video from Nilis perspective makes T90s cast even better ^^

[@behmquentin2197]

i was here, that was marvelous to watch

[@ignacionadeo1306]

Hm, Yezris might've looked like he had the upper hand at times, when he was sweeping Viper's arbs with his Cav, but the problem was that in terms of army cost, Viper was losing way cheaper units that he could easily afford to replace by stealing MBL's hard earned resources, while Yezris had no ally to fall back to and his losses were more expensive than Viper's. Adding siege would've been prohibitively expensive, on top of that.

[@LordStaind]

Aoe2 devs be like “18:33 WTF is that!!”. Needs nerfing. Hence why Obsidian arrows got nerfed in their latest update.

[@guillermococofrito9196]

All that heavy cavalry massacred at 21:34 was painful to watch

[@MALEMization]

Spirit of the Law maybe regretting his words about Saracens now!

[@AlekseiGriffin]

Biggest problem generally in AoE2 are how strong arbalest line is. This is just its most sickenign form.

[@hippasusofmetapontum6447]

I forgot how much I miss this overlay.

[@brammiddelkamp1861]

So nice that you think it will go into late game where the opponent can make camel archers xD

[@schorschXIV]

Hi T90, somehow the full Bo5 is flagged as private and therefore can't be watched. At least not by me.

[@eoinh8425]

Great fucking game, goddamn. I thought Czech might have gotten the comeback there, but MbL slinging really saved the day. GG

[@zacharyb2723]

Man I thought it would be time for Genitours! since both players can build them, no sling required.

[@TorresFord]

That was an Ass whooping. My key board would be in pieces lol. Viper is the goat

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

AOE logic: glass arrows do extra damage against wood and stone buildings.

[@ArtyMcLabin]

obsidian is not glass. obsidian is actually a rock harder than steel

[@brohvakiindova4452]

@@ArtyMcLabin the logical error is probably more in that obsidian is really hard to shape correctly, I highly doubt you could have made arrow tips better than steel just because you probably couldn't get it as thin and "pointy" without getting brittle

[@artruisjoew5473]

@@ArtyMcLabin and a lot more brittle than steel. if you hit steel with obsedian with enough force, the steel will bend while the obsedian will shatter.

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

@@ArtyMcLabin obsidian is volcanic glass. And it’s very brittle.

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

@@brohvakiindova4452 if they made obsidian arrows a dark age upgrade that gave huge damage to units with no armor upgrades, but then suffered a big drop-off against buildings and armored units, it would have opened up a whole new bag of opportunities.

[@brokentombot]

Arbalesters take out a castle? I smell OP on that.

[@KurtwithKnives]

2v2 Convo with my brother the other day - Me: I'm going Mayans, bro Bro: Should i go Celts for fast siege? Me: I'M GOING MAYANS! Bro: So pick berries and tower, got it

[@mrbongosfl]

23 seconds in and he already climaxed 🤣🤣

[@stefan85300]

Is there a mod for graphics for buildings. Not seen the castles fall down like that before

[@dudeguy9943]

this is age of empires 2 DE edition .. not HD in DE they aded new animations for buildings being destroyed

[@TheGstein]

I think they needed to break down the walls of MBL with the knights after the failed tower push and put the first castle onto a TC to make their castle push about 2-3 minutes faster. They were only about 2 minutes slow on almost killing MBL

[@The_Gallowglass]

I'll never understand how a bunch of arbalests can bring down a castle...with bolts. Are those bolts tek arrows from Turok?

[@herptyderp4927]

Next round should add on two under 900 players against MBL and Viper

[@ImperialBudderz]

always wanted to see saracen and mayan team bonus work in this way

[@SebHaarfagre]

They should had mixed in 4-5 Onagers with the cav. Either that OR Send 15-20 cav to MBL as you said ("or" because there would be too little cav in main group to do both)

[@ADCFproductions]

can't believe they didn't take advantage of the elite genitours the berbers have, both civs could have make them! they're very very good against arbs.

[@GuilhermeMiranda89]

@@ADCFproductions Impossible, you just don't have time to adapt that. To make Elite Genitours you have to transition... make archers upgrades, make at least 5 or 6 archery camps, make the upgrade... that would cost at least 5 to 10 minutes. In 5 minutes the game was done.

[@nicklopez3461]

Shit was ruthless.

[@JSTM2000]

Very convenient timing as they just halved the effectiveness of obsidian arrows vs stone walls/towers (not castles though I believe). It's still going to melt stuff though, but just a bit slower.

[@IceWraith101]

I mean...... if you have 60 arbs with it its only ognna give you liek 2-3 seconds extra. That just helps against the early early push with it.

[@alexd4102]

You might think it's OP but it's just good strategy. Norway had green focus on eco, and blue focus on military. That way, there's less macro to worry about and it evens out.

[@pekkalaitinen8769]

those castles are MELTING to arrows wtf

[@austinwhiteley339]

We need to see a game the viper vs like 7 noobs it would be an awesome watch!

[@maurizioblotta7189]

RIP this strategy Obsidian Arrow just got nerfed

[@danielglick985]

The full bo5 is private @t90

[@RusskiBlusski]

Viper with the Bombard Arbalest 11

[@taylornoles6528]

This is a classic Viper troll turned up to 11 with MBLs help

[@samhoare1334]

The link to the full best of 5 not working for anyone else?

[@mathiasvilen2569]

Ridiculous game indeed!! and now I think I'm gonna play mayans and destroy with arbs. Problem is I forget how talented team Norway are. Thanks for entertaining t90!!

[@carbon1255]

And they just patched oby arrows xD

[@PixXx31]

holy fuck I've never seen arbs take a castle down in that time!

[@Augustus_Imperator]

Now, this was wild

[@NedimSabic]

@t90official come on, put all matches on youtube, we want to follow the tournament too.

[@sandzhao1980]

Archers like Gun !

[@juonryu2nd]

This is oddly satisfying to watch

[@FatCatBFME]

50 Arbalests = 1 MILLION

[@gonzalotoscano3310]

T90 we believe in you and Daniel, even if you dont win it will be a good game to watch, good luck and have fun ^^

[@irfancandans9283]

they nerfed obsidian arrows after this game.

[@tomaszsmol3920]

this was so fun to watch

[@shawnbybee85]

T90: 8:13 this is a good strategy Me: no it's not, MBL is untouched and free to boom

[@shawnbybee85]

The way Viper handled those towers, all LEL should study that. he had 4 towers on his base and never once, not once, did he freak out.

[@cagriypr115]

Viper is MBL's army lol

[@Unheedful]

Cant you fit Twitch chat in this overlay? i like chat.

[@dolanduck978]

Česko do toho! 🥳

[@ChocolateMilkCultLeader]

The Czechs played a tight game

[@eriknodland8352]

It is showing the full best of 5 as a private video?

[@filmsfromthepoor]

You have to cast some of the battle Royal modes

[@krazykid1428]

Link to full best of 5 says private video?

[@ekimoleksander6068]

Holly shit that was nuts

[@mateuszszudrawski2045]

Why there's no one uploading full series to YT? Or I.m missing something?

[@Cecil_Augus]

Post the entire sets please! Twitch is very bad to watch recorded games

[@SuperJamSports]

This was epic. I watched it twice!