Classic vs Black Ops 6 Zombies

[@theWheezy]

Few things I wanted to add and clarify for the video: - I wanted to show love for the side easter eggs that are sprinkled into the maps for BO6, never got around to it. There's a whole bunch that you can explore and go learn about. - I also wanted to show love for their appreciation to the older games because I could tell they took inspiration. The biggest sign to me that personally won me over are them Verruckt runners, they are back! They added a really fast zombie with that same old animation and it's beautiful! - My cinematic shots for BO6 are zoomed in and cropped (zombies doesn't have theater mode and the gun takes up part of the screen), so if you see a loss in quality with my BO6 cinematics compared to previous zombie game cinematics, it's because of that. My overall opinion is that BO6 zombies is great and the best thing we've had since BO3. I'm happy with it, but I do think they lack in areas that can still improve and return to form.

[@RandoManFPV]

If points are elimination and critical hit based, can you easily calculate the minimum and maximum points possible for each round? 😅

[@dariusdafigga]

Don’t know how much zombies you have played but those same super sprinters (same animations & all) were in BOCW. BO6 reuses just about all the same animations from that game

[@Just-A-Bit]

I think the reason why the atmosphere isn’t very strong is because the maps are just fairly normal looking places with zombies thrown in

[@benc77]

I don’t think it’s that, kino is just a normal movie theatre yet has loads more atmosphere, I think the hud and objective markers do a lot to ruin the atmosphere of bo6

[@grannde_]

Also Kevin drew doesn’t care about making zombies feel like zombies he changed up the gameplay because his brother was bad at the game and apparently was “bullied” because he didn’t know how to get points. Jamming Warzone and multiplayer features/ hud elements into the mode instead of just doing it in a way that fits the mode and is balanced.

[@grannde_]

@ we don’t need a mini map and other markers on our screen and people popping up on the radio and all this other stuff, what happened to just exploring the map and learning things through radios and paying attention to the map itself

[@benc77]

@@grannde_ I agree, the maps used to have markings on the walls to guide you, it was a part of the world and much more mysterious

[@theWheezy]

Ben here in the comments has the right idea, and also was somewhat my point in the video. Tranzit in reality is just a few places like a bus depot, farm, town, etc. but Treyarch took it and made it “pop”. Those missiles we launched from the moon helped elevate the aesthetic with the destruction, fog, and lava. Same goes for other maps that should be considered normal locations (until they aren’t)

[@vOcHaZOv]

As a zombies player since WaW, I'm honestly surprised how good Black Ops 6 zombies is. All credit to Treyarch. They've got their shit together this year.

Well that's good for you....

[@Baltimoredummy]

I've been playing since world at war but b06 for any reasons is not my cup of tea zombies and this weird ahh campaign

[@blueferal8626]

Ez top 3 🐇

[@kevinnotkyle]

Yep I agree I played this zombies as much as I played BO3 this game is really good

[@daved5839]

They should’ve just used bo3’s weapon customization system I hate how you can start with with whatever gun you want, I rarely hit the box unless I want the raygun, also weapon rarity should be scrapped and equipment scaling should taper off. And you hit the nail on the head no point in investing in more than one weapon

[@cake7193]

I absolutely love BO6 zombies but man do i miss the OG zombie sounds, the new ones sound almost alien and are much less threatening and unique

[@qman10198]

The nostalgia is what we miss the aura is what we miss

[@cake7193]

@qman10198 no not really lmao I love the new stuff and the maps, just miss the old zombie sounds

[@ImGoat1995]

Valid complaints. Bo6 is the most fun Ive had since Bo3 but the sound design of the old games were just chef's kiss.

[@DappyDaCreator]

Tbh imo bo4 was severely underrated it was the last of the OG formula and I miss it

[@dariusdafigga]

Nah the game isn’t talked about for a reason, outside of you & about three other people

[@crimson4729]

@@dariusdafiggablack ops 4 was a bad game because they diverted resources to blackout just like now how everything has to be based around warzone and Fortnite style battle passes. Classic COD ditching what they’re good at to try and be something it’s not for money

[@thatflanneldude]

Correct! Bo4 still had that something special when it came to the maps and gameplay feel. The only reason many remember it badly is because they changed the perk system and people weren't as interested in the new chaos storyline. Bo4 was the last Zombies that had fun, interesting, and MEMORABLE maps. I am enjoying Bo6 as much as I can though and am optimistic about the new maps.

[@JuanCruz_839]

@@thatflanneldudeyes

[@cruzfreely5856]

Liberty falls atmosphere is not bad and is actually quite good. It reminds me of what post tranzit would look (before moon).The map is exactly what it was marketed as, a new developed zombie outbreak and it fits that perfectly.

[@chonchjohnch]

“The AI is a lot smarter and will spread out” If you look closely, you’ll notice that zombies despawn at a bafflingly close distance and then respawn next to you and behind you. It’s close enough that you can see it happen at times Also, I discovered by accident that double augmented PhD slider utterly claps the guardian fight. I was able to be constantly behind him and he barely even aggro’d on me over my friends

[@DJDitty]

Even more obvious with rampage inducer

[@jeffrey-3535]

I turned off my radar, and when I went to turn it back on it won’t come back up, even if I delete the game and redownload

[@wmj1860]

BO6 is peak modern Zombies, not peak Zombies overall but for the post BO3 era it's really really good. I've been playing zombies as long as I can remember, I'm 24 now and I've been playing since BO1 maybe even WaW, never had any DLCs till Chronicles came out but I still played each iteration during it's life cycle.

[@iAmNemoYT]

I'm pretty much in the same boat, grew up with zombies since WaW, I'm 22 now and I always find myself going back to play the older games or buying them to play them, I grew up mainly a PlayStation player but one of the reasons I got an Xbox was to play older games along with xbox exclusives, also because while it was on gamepass I got the chance to try the game out before buying it on my PlayStation

[@carlitosdinkler5213]

can you clowns use anything but the word peak anymore

[@iAmNemoYT]

@@carlitosdinkler5213 idk what your problem is.

[@carlitosdinkler5213]

@@iAmNemoYT I wasnt referring to you but its cringe af when dunces this generation just use the same cliche words to call literally anything to the point the word has lost its meaning and is expected to be slapped onto and grouped with anything decent.

[@iAmNemoYT]

@@carlitosdinkler5213 i know what you mean, and I guess I get ur problem, but it's kinda unnecessary to be negative when the op was just talking about how he feels about bo6 zombies compared to the classics he grew up with, but I agree, some words lose weight or meaning when used carelessly or when overused. But the use here is fine, but idk. I didn't see a problem with it

[@TechReviewTom]

Bro Cold War zombies was fun af. All the different modes were incredibly refreshing. If you see them as different things not to be compared to different games. Although all are cod, the different styles help me not become bored of other ones.

[@Itz_Puxe]

I miss the OG zombie sounds, round starting and ending sounds, hellhound rounds, the death machine power up, Perma perks, the ability to stash a wepon, the ability to bank our points, the maps atmosphere and theme and unique dialogue for characters on the map. Like for example if I am training zombies in BO2 my character will talk about how there is a bunch of zombies and if I am spotted by another character they will call it out. I enjoyed little dialogue interaction between the characters in between rounds as well. Like FR our characters don't really speak to each other in between rounds. I purposely play as the strike team as well just so I can have a more in-depth experience but they still rarly interact with each other.

[@Kelis98]

I think gameplay wise the two eras are different but each offer something I agree that in terms of characters, theming, story, atmosphere, music, etc. the old maps are just better. I can’t exactly put into words all the details but they stood out in ways the newer ones don’t. I think Vanguard had a few neat ideas (even if they were done badly), and BO6 is a step in the right direction in comparison to Cold War, even if it isn’t fully there yet.

[@camerondubey54]

Is it just me or did the campaign play a huge role in WaW and BO1? After the end of WW2 in waw zombies introduced the idea that the Germans were working on a super soldier and added a *believable* alternate history. Same thing with BO1 in terms of Five after the campaign, and taking out the Ascension scientists in the campaign, just to go back to a zombified version of Ascension making us wonder what they were working on and what went wrong. Being that it’s such a believable alt history, it forced you to think “what if,” which you don’t get in things like the chaos story.

[@benjamingoodnight1025]

18:20 is the best way I can sum up my zombies experience. Fun as hell. There are some valid points I see with this video but I’d like to debate them a bit / discuss. 1. The points system is a 50/50 for me. Your points were valid. I don’t hit the box at all anymore. I just use my class gun but I’m always switching. I play multiplayer so I’m typically leveling a gun up. But this is why I like it so much. Every gun is usable. Typically in an older experience I’d use the same guns out of the box. I hated shotguns. Never used them. Now I can use any gun and not be punished by the point system. I see its flaws but I love being able to just use anything to my free will. 2. Augment system is so good. For those who didn’t play Ghost extinction mode there were teeth. You earned teeth by completing objectives and playing the game. You spend teeth on upgrades and things of that nature. It rewards the player who plays the mode the most and I love that. That’s big dick factor. The person that plays the most will be more powerful and I love that. 3. Not a fan of these cut scenes at the start of the matches. They make no sense to me. Can we quit with the richtophen bullshit? I think the cast is god awful. Their voice lines are… yeah. When I first heard weaver say “We can do this all day we have plenty of corpses” I wanted to turn the game off. This cast isn’t anything special but I don’t want an old cast. I want something cool. Let me play as the president again. Make a funny map. Hell even a terriorist in the Middle East. 4. The cast ruins the vibe but the maps are very cool. Going up to the… windows? I guess whatever they are… The sounds behind them are crazy, scary, spooky (hilarious). Love the detail they put. The new maps wonder weapons are so cool. I’ve always wanted to swing a sword since origins cutscene. They’ve done a wonderful job. I think if they put tranzit in bo6 it’d work perfectly with a tweak or 2. 5. The mode is simple and easy for people to pick up. But it takes skill to master. Me and my lady played old zombies. She hated it. Wasn’t a fan. She said it was hard and punishing. But now we play bo6 and she’s good at it. Maybe it’s because she just started with Cold War. But this mode anyone can have success. Bringing new people into the mode is a good thing. It doesn’t have to be a niche mode for “HARDCORE GAMERS” only. Casuals should have fun too. This game strikes a great balance. Liberty falls the EE was simple and easy. Terminus was harder and took a while for us to get but we still got it. Game is fun for casuals and the hardcore fan. 6. Lastly the hud. People complained about the hud and being able to customize it. I think that’s dumb. The HUD System is great. Being able to make it your own is awesome. I play with just my ammo showing. No healthbars or hitmarkers. Makes me feel at home. But my lady likes healthbars and things like that. Best of both worlds. In summary I’m loving the mode. Been playing cod since 2010 when I got a 360, bo1, Xbox live, and a the cheapest headset. The last cod I bought with my own money was COD black ops 4. So I’ve been out of the loop. I started playing again with MW3 and that zombies mode was awful. Bo6 has been a welcome back for me and I love it. brings back the good times of booting up kino. Yeah it’s not classic zombies but it doesn’t have to be. It’s good old fashion F.U.N. That’s all it needs to be. Edit: I forgot to tell you Wheezy great job. Been waiting for this video and what you had to say for a min. I wasn’t liking the way zombies was looking when I watched the trailer but I’m pleasantly surprised on how much I like the mode and I’m glad to see you like it as well.

[@theWheezy]

I think it’s a good middle ground, but I’ll always strive to get more out of it. The potential is there to go further. I’m going to enjoy it while we got it and it’s fresh, never know how long another cod zombies drought could be. Thanks for enjoying the vid and going in great detail. Hope you and the lady continue having fun on zombs!

[@Lemmegooglethat..]

You still earn points slower with sg than most weapons since points are even across weapons but melee gets hurt the most from the point system not to mention the gun butt instead of a classic melee, you'd think they give more for being in their face and possibly taking damage but nope, probably because everyone would only knife on early rounds rather than combo shooting and melee like on the old games, for me personally that plus rebuilding barriers is what really made the early rounds so fun!

[@chamomiletea4549]

Same people hating on cold wars zombies and praising bo6 zombies doesn’t make sense. It’s literally the same mode with less perks released. The only change is the augment system. I personally think the augment system is trash and more grindy than the aether crystal system.

[@dr.cocacola]

I miss the tier system tbh, they should let you upgrade guns to a certain tier again to make them more viable at higher rounds, and they should let you do research for one item on each section like you can do research on a perk, ammo mod, and field upgrade in one game

[@PeppinSpaghett.]

It’s the same reason why they hated cold war yet LOVED Sker Ritual. It’s the Atmosphere that mattered the most to them. Which makes sense, considering Cold War despite being fine. Lacked any.

[@VTheSlumpGod]

I agree. At least Cold War maps had more atmosphere than b06. And each special round was different on every map

[@PeppinSpaghett.]

@ lowest tier bait to the point that even someone’s hand is better for fishing.

[@valkyrie-jay]

I use the box a lot in my runs to savge salvage from upgrading rarity and play with a variety of weapons and get the ray gun most games if not from the box then from the lockers or vault especially after round 30. Agree with everything else you said, the fact you can save and quit makes this possibly the best zombies yet for me, getting bored on high rounds after playing for hours used to happen a lot, or even worse, interrupted connection. Plus now you can get through the early rounds quicker. Plus the scorestreaks and boss fights

[@rexwer8723]

All problems with new games can be summed up in 2 words - "bare minimum". In the past we had lots of stuff: some good, some bad, but we almost every time had a enough of good things. Now it's just bare minimum with high probability of bad things. Plus now in this bare minimum a lot of place is reserved for "the message"

[@Virsery]

The fact you got hit 6 times at 2:43 is crazy

[@NeNukee]

The game is pretty good but the story holds it back so much and the voice actors all quitting because of the ai shit they are doing.

[@eddy2chill]

This video was well put together! 🔥

[@caparicio157]

zombies video essay? IM ALWAYS WATCHING!!!!!

[@ProphetOfDoubt]

I just can’t get into BO6 zombies. I’ve tried, but I just don’t like it. I wish I did because I miss enjoying zombies, but I just can’t enjoy the game without the classic systems/mechanics and the classic atmosphere/creativity.

[@madmaxcrashes546]

Ive played since bo3 but went back all the way to waw even modding it and gonna be honest love bo6 and found myself actually grinding camos i like it its a nice change and isnt just the same stuff ill agree its not perfect and it isnt the classics but its still very good and all that matters is that alot of people find it fun old games will always be there its the newer experiences people wanna try and see if they can do what they had done before with new ideas

[@micahseymour2142]

Bo6 zombies is great. My biggest complain is I feel the mystery box is obsolete. Starting the game with a load out and the ability to upgrade your guns by a tiered system made hitting the box a thing of the past. The mystery box is one of if not the most iconic thing about call of duty zombies. Without it, running a game of zombies is made too consistent without that random aspect to it. Every game can play out the exact same if you can use the same guns every time.

[@suhaaschennapragada5711]

The points system wouldn't be so bad if weapon damage didn't fall off so hard. Even legendary triple packed weapons start sucking after round 35, so if you die and come back late game you can forget about being able to kill any zombies with a non pap weapon, and even if u manage to pap once you're still fucked. Not being able to kill zombies means you're not gonna get points which means you can't do anything to claw back up from rock bottom. In older cod games you would be fine even with the bo6 points system because some non pap weapons were still viable in high rounds if u just threw on double tap

[@karolclark791]

BO3 is perceived by most as the peak of zombies. BO4 had a ton of content but it's basic mechanics were poor. BOCW had great mechanisms but suffered from lack of content with just 4 maps in total. BO6 will have 6maps, it has enough content to keep us engaged and the mechanics are fun. I think this is the best state we've been in since BO3. If the remaining DLCs are similar to CDS, we are in for a treat

[@MuscledRMHv2]

I would love to see a classic mode though with pistol starts and being forced to scavenge a lot more to survive

[@parkerthompson3447]

The main problems with current zombies is the HUD and how easy it is. I'm convinced my dog could make it round 50

[@Niridescent]

U nailed everything, i think the biggest sorrow i have for bo6 is how terrible it is to spin the iconic mystery box. Fire sales are oddly rare, ill get several in one much somtimes without gobbles, and within the span of a few games i wont get a single fire sale. So its just become this rinse and repeat cycle of starting with a loadout for the camos, working with the gun until the very end of the game and then swapping to another weapon the next game.

[@SmartMonkeyPo]

you have to put bo6 zombies as it's own thing because it will never match the OG's but it's very good in it's own way

[@AShadyDoctor]

I'm a big fan of new zombies. The one thing I hate is how you get points. It's like up said you won't have the firepower to kill zombies to get points.

[@aroundnabout4290]

People even hated on bo3 at launch and throughout its run. Think most zombies gets hated first cause they always try and change stuff, which is good would rather stuff changes and try progressing then having the same bo1 maps for 5 cods haha. Think this'll be looked up more positively in the future like bo6, defo depends how the next few maps go though, but I think it's pretty good so far

[@zoovaado7759]

People did not hate bo3 throughout its life cycle that’s a myth. People disliked shadows for like 2-3 weeks and then they made a bunch of changes and most people liked it. When de came out everyone was loving the game for the rest of the year

[@phueno1498]

⁠@@zoovaado7759you weren’t there lil bro you don’t remember the draught when zetsubou came out and everyone wanted gorod. plus didn’t non PS players have to wait a month before a new map dropped?😂😂

[@zoovaado7759]

@@phueno1498 I was there “lil bro” a content drought is not the same as people disliking the game. Also zetsubou>>de and yes ps player got the maps a month early idk why that’s relevant whatsoever

[@bgoodydj]

@@phueno1498zns trailer had everyone hyped then when the map launched it was not well received. I think many people who played bo3 on launch lost interest after that point. Shadows on launch was fun because you could pack a punch the apothican servant

[@Jason-eu5zx]

@@zoovaado7759people heavily disliked zetsubou lmao. That map truly was bad too. SOE was extremely hated. And don’t even get me started on Revelations, a map that’s simply a bunch of older maps smashed together. Extremely disappointing but as time goes by, it’s something we look fondly at. Bo3 was hated and that’s a fact. People hated exosuits, the campaign was extremely terrible, multiplayer had loot boxes, was pay to win, zombies had 2 good maps until Chronicles.

[@tarantolopictures481]

BO6 is def the best zombies we have had since BO3. But WaW, BO1, BO2, and BO3 will always be better. Had better sounds. Better atmosphere. Better mechanics. Better story. And better map designs. I am really loving Citadelle in BO6 tho but the mode is absolutely missing the core gameplay loops of the old games

[@darkfu55ion37]

My problem with bo 6 is how easy it is, it only starts being a 5-6 hit down at round 150 (assuming you have jug and armor) even if you do mess up you have equipment, augments, scorestreaks, specialists and gums to immediately save you

[@smithnyou2352]

If you didn’t have armor and equipment this would be the hardest zombies game in existence, bosses one shot you past round 30, 2-3 hit down with jug. The amount of hits doesn’t matter when the zombies have dark souls boss grab level hitboxes. Go into third person, watch a zombie entirely whiff your character and be confused as to how you still get hit. Zombies AI is also much smarter when spreading out, and running past them is almost a guaranteed hit. Even their hit speed is absolutely insane, even with the movement being way more free than older games it’s balanced by having just a shitload of zombies with spawns directly infront and behind you. I don’t see how it’s much different than other zombies high rounds that required you to just spam wonder weapons (or AAT for all of bo3 lol) as normal weapons are just awful for high rounds.

[@bhopirl4552]

​@smithnyou2352 Bo6 is only easier on low rounds bc the zombies are slow so its almost impossible to go down. ive tried the older games like bo1 - bo3 and its very easy to go down in low rounds without jugg. Like i died to the dogs on kino yesterday on round 5 because i had an mpl and needed to reload but they run so fast. Yes im bad lol but i feel thats almost unfair. I def prefer bo6 and feel its more fair if i get killed by super sprinters on round 40+ than some slow corpse slapping me in the face two times before i can even knife once 😂

[@dustblowingman]

I played heaps of zombies in WAW and BO1 and BO2. But only played maybe 1 or 2 matches on the 1st map of all zombies since. BO6 ive played heaps of zombies and feels fresh to me

[@doomguyfaz3recon797]

What does BO6 do right? It’s literally not fun at all for anyone but ok. You were right though, it’s Cold War again and the hud thing doesn’t change anything, wow new game!

[@alexbasha0508]

I rather play Tranzit and Die Rise… I’m deadly serious, because they provide important aspects that makes zombies… zombies. Modern Era zombies just ain’t it for me, I don’t enjoy it at all. Objectively BO6 is far from a bad gamemode but… BUT, just like CWZ it isn’t a good ZOMBIES game. It fails to be what it should be.

[@alexgrayisaligman]

Even bo3 on the old systems on the Xbox 360 and ps3 is better than bo6

[@Super_Genox935]

@@alexgrayisaligmanAs shitty as those two games are… You’re right, a BO6 woke person would be upset by that statement but it’s true. At that time, Zombies still knew what it was doing.

[@alexgrayisaligman]

@@Super_Genox935 I just don't like where zombies is heading now with zombies mixed in with warzone you have killstraeks armour system weapons loadouts I hate all that in zombies I found myself playing some old classic zombies yesterday I was playing buried back bo2 I had so much fun on that game

[@alexgrayisaligman]

@@Super_Genox935 and another thing I don't the main menu on these new cods where have soldier walking forward its just copied from modern warfare

[@grannde_]

@@alexgrayisaligmanexactly I don’t understand why people act like bo6 is the most perfect and best zombies mode when it’s like ranked 6-7 if you really rank all zombies modes

[@justthat69]

Say this in my video, but I honestly think that Liberty Falls is like town 2.0 but not blow up from BO2, and we know how fun was played on town on black ops 2.

[@leeloomultipass5728]

My huge hot take is the trash exfill system. I dont like how everyone has to exfill or the game is lost. There should be a way to implement it so whoever wants to exfill can activate it and if other players want too they can meet at the exfill point. And the players that want to keep going can stay in game without dealing with a game over, and possibly losing gobble gums for no reason 🤷🏻‍♂️ i get if someone wants to end at round 31 but if i want to try my chance and go higher its not right that i dont have the angency to do so

[@dariusdafigga]

I like BO6 probably just as much as BOCW and have been having a blast hunting all the different challenges this game has to offer. They have been doing a good job with the maps so far and I’m excited to see if we can get something close to what BO3 had when everything is all said & done I just realllyyy wish they would take those damn ammo crates out of the game, that’s one of the main things I hated about BOCW that has unfortunately returned in this game. Ammo being somewhat scarce (until you got a max ammo) is part of what made the older games more challenging no? They supposedly did all this these tweaks to make getting to round 100 feel more challenging like the older games but they are still hold players’ hands by allowing them to just buy ammo whenever they feel like. Plus doesn’t having TWO MAX AMMO GOBBLEGUMS make ammo crates redundant?? Did they really overlook this?

[@GhostlyGates217]

My very first game in bo6 I got the wonder weapon on my first box spin, I didn't realise it was that rare but now I'm even more impressed about it!

[@ToAk_Golden]

if you dmg a zombie and someone else kills it you still get the points so you could shoot someones train and run away once they start shooting down their train you will earn all the ones u shot while you are killing zombies from somehwere else

[@KB-yw6ou]

This is a weird question but how do you get those shots of bo6 zombies it looks like theatre mode

[@theWheezy]

Pull out the pm pistol, turn off hud, then zoom in during your editing

[@KB-yw6ou]

@ got it. Thanks man

[@zombiegamercat777]

14:00 The save and quit option is not a new feature. It was on Mobile Black Ops Zombies. Treyarch/Activison just wanted everyone to think it was new (technically false advertising)

[@Lespirit451]

I don't consider codm an actual cod game

[@zombiegamercat777]

@Lespirit451 No. Not COD Mobile. The Mobile version of "Black Ops Zombies". This is a differet game from COD Mobile

[@goldenrebelion2665]

Fully agreed with video, i was hater of new era of zombies but now i just think it's different mode and that's not bad that this is different. Yeah we never will have old style zombies but new isn't that bad and it can be enjoyable to play. New zombies still last as the best zombies in entire game industry, nobody will give us even that zombies exept bo6. Now i just enjoy this game more because i am not compare bo6 with old games like bo3, bo4 and etc. It's just new game with new vision of zombies and that vision is enjoyable and fan to play. it Just different and that's all, nothing more, it's not means that this is bad because it's different. Overall very good made video, hope you will continue making new videos like that, you're not making conflicts between new and old players and that's great, i am so exhausted of toxic videos about bo6, happy that there still exists normal videos like that.

[@beardedsaint3250]

Tried bo6 through the free weekend trial. I hated every second of it. Bo3 was peak zombies and the greatest experience I had in its peak. Mp felt so sluggish however Addicting, but made me absolutely hate it due to the sbmm being overkill. Zombies just felt barren imo. Playing killing floor 2 rn on pc for mindless “zombie” killing fun. Ever since BO3, I’ve struggled getting into the BO series. It’s a miss for me this year. to think it’s been nearly 10 years when the new cod comes out since I’ve truly had a Treyarch zombies experience

[@latecore_]

why does everyone hate Tranzit i feel like a crazy person. it's such a fun experience why in the world does it get so much hate. yall are no fun

[@tomahawk1495]

It's fun with friends, have you ever tried playing it solo

[@ethanhinojosa5274]

Off the top of my head, Jetgun sucks balls, having to leave turbine at power station (only for it to get destroyed by a zombie) so you can get pack a punch, denizens are a little annoying, coming from somebody who actually doesn't mind Tranzit

[@alwombat7]

Im more like frustration and disappointment than actual hatred.

[@moodygurlification]

I love Transit But to answer your question pack a punch

[@Niridescent]

Plays practically every map till bo3 which is when i quit cod/zombies. That map still has a place in hell for me. God, waiting on that bus was a bitch and having to go through every damn area to get perks was such a chore man. If u ever fked up or got double swiped by a certain zombie, u were almost guaranteed to die since everyone would be at different points in the map.

[@venomlordzentanu]

The point system has to be the greatest sin. Bc they tried to "fix" the most fundamental thing, which wasn't broken. But it's more about why these changes are happening. And it's bc of more greed, and less care of giving us a good game

[@polskagab]

New cod maps are absolutely souless. No environment, no music, it feels blank.

[@illuminatannunak]

When you said "around wave 35 things started picking up", i couldnt believe that someone can just utter this and go on with explaining how "fun" the mode has become. In other words, you play a warm up for 35 rounds and only then you can begin a zombies experience that already started at wave 10 in older titles. The mode has been butchered in many ways to appeal to mp/warzone audience and to that audience, zombies is not a separate gamemode within the game but a fun little sidemode to grind camos, weapon xp and account level. So adjustments were made to ensure that EVERYONE is capable of withstanding AT LEAST 35 waves with any given mental capacity. Imagine throwing a warzone only player into bo2 and expect them to survive 35 rounds on origins. It might take weeks of getting used to the gameplay before getting the hang of it. But that was the fun, the mode was unapproachable to complete beginners but the more you played it the more tricks you got to know both gameplaywise and mapdesign-wise. When i started out in zombies i had my cheeks clapped early in the game, not surviving til later rounds. But the more i got to know which perks should i prioritise, which guns should i use and when, watching guides how to unlock pap on every map, the more proficient i became. It was a learning curve and it rewarded you for learning. Now as a new player you have eveything shown on your hud, you can buy infinite perks, level up your guns in terms of tiers, pap 3 times, use field modifications, slide away from zombies and jump through trains, buy ammo from boxes, start with a gun of your preference, upgrade your warzone armour, craft killstreaks, jump over any femce in the game making chokepoints irrelevant, the list goes on... The game surely now has more mechanics but it was also dumbed down to appeal to people that dont care about the zombies itself and only play it for xp and camo and the zombies experience is now like playing a roguelike rpg with meta progression, instead of coop survival. And im not even mentioning the fact that we switched from very diverse maps in terms of setting, aesthetics and timelines, into the real life, real earth, dark aether timeline maps and multiplayer cutouts. All maps happen only in our time and only with one crew(bo6, all other dark aether games didnt have a crew lol) The only fun i had with bo6 was citadelle, but thats because they finally made a map thats not a football field and increased zombie spawns so you would get stuck more often. But these are remedies to the problems i listed above. In the end, i completed all three bo6 maps and rarely returned to play again, because i knew i was going to be met with 25 minutes of warmup and atrocious mechanics like weapon tiering and armour plates. I dont know if we're ever going to get a calssic zombies experience but whatever treyarch has been putting out in recent years, in my opinion, has been just a flytrap for warzone players.

[@kaylemjoseph8727]

bo3 zombies modded maps 8 to 10 players is all I need.

[@WhatUpLub]

That's good to hear, me personally I need something different after 2000 hours playtime and running out of good content in the steam workshop

[@CalixtoGarciaIniguez1898]

Bo6 zombies is just amazing. Probably better than Cold War zombies.

[@PowerDunk]

Very well done video,I agree with a lot of opinions in this and I'm an OG finish the campaign WaW zombies. Really digging this years zombies the more I play it,the new map has grown on me lots,I'd say I prefer it to liberty falls now

[@skullyairsoft80]

Oh no.... black ops THREE zombies is classic now? I think I've caught the old

[@vaderboots6987]

How do you turn off the points in the middle of the screen?

[@moodygurlification]

Go to your settings and go to display

[@vVOVER9000Vv]

Agree with most if not all your points. Bo6 really feels like they cranked the gameplay fun up to 11 and with all the massive QoL improvements I’m wondering how we survived in classic zombies so long without them. If the next dlc maps could just get some really good atmospheres and make me feel like I’m in this fucked up dark aether world and not just a warzone drop location bo6 is a strong contender for best zombies game.

[@justamannotagod]

hes back woooaoohhhhhhh

[@EyehatePersona5]

In terms of markers or HUD elements telling you where to go, I think call of duty World War II did a better job, giving you more subtle hints via a notebook that you have to optionally open. I also decided to turn off health bars for my zombies, and I like it much more now. Overall, I think the hud is the problem, and also the fact that it sometimes feels like the map are just kind of generic multiplayer or Warzone maps . I think they should just try to go more for a claustrophobic map because then it will make them focus more on making the map feel like a zombie map. For example, I think citadel’s castle is very well-made and very fun.

[@RyanCooperRB]

My only complain is that they don't have the time out function, where you can vote to have take some time out when you get tired but not so much to quit the game. Yes, they have the gubblegum for it, but it's a fucking gubblegum, not a button in menu to vote for time out so you could just take time to prepare, look around, take in details, do EE etc. like bro... It feels like this game has no time of rest when the last zombie is killed, even when you don't turn the inducer on.

[@Amarok-7]

It kills me, how much people don't acknowledge customs when making those comparisons. Old zombies is far better than BO6, but you're right on the augments, it was a good way to progress. Although, being accessible to more players the way treyarch does ? Is not the way to do. I've played BO6 zombies for a bit and mostly hated it. Why ? -Turning off elements does not make the game classic, either you put it in the game or you don't. -Armor ? You spawn with it and take 5 hits no jugg from round 1. Just for noobs to feel welcomed WITHOUT any effots. Back then, you had to memorize the shield parts and you're only protected from the back. -The point system like you said (although insta and double points are the best combo now and deadshot is way better). -The rarity system is a scam because your bullet weapon doesn't last as long, for each tiers. -Yeah the save and quit is a nice feature for video editing purposes or stream purposes. But other than that, making the game online for THAT ?! IT's a marketing excuse from them. And doing high rounds, even for people touching grass, should take more time than that. Customs managed to do save and quits on BO3 before BO6 came around. And BO3 still has an offline mode. Same for one or two waw maps on plutonium. Not saying it shouldn't be added, but customs did it first. Not treyarch. -Citadel ww swings were mid (I tried with melee machiato and still could get hit), but they buffed them, so... -You spawn with a loadout, it's not zombies. Treyarch is slowly but surely doing their best to erase the identity of zombies and people saying "I don't really care" don't really help.

[@ilovedemocracyy]

I dislike having operator picture in my hud and it’s annoying that you can’t nanually remove it

[@yellowjellybabies9606]

Not sure why you dont enjoy the story. Perhaps you've psyched yourself out on what it "should" be? I really like it for what it is. It reminds me a lot of BO3 & BO1 (the only games with good stories imo) where there is a clear goal for the characters and each map is a journey toward completing it. In BO3 it was collecting the souls and defeating the Shadowman. In BO6 it is getting the Sentinel Artifact, saving Samantha and killing Richtofen. My only criticism so far is that they wrapped up Mayas storyline a bit too fast and i didnt like that it was optional content in CDM 🤷🏻 i also wouldve liked to get a better idea on where the next map would take place. But it terms of voice acting, dialogue and directing i think this is about on par with BO3.

[@crocsarethepurestformofwea3122]

While I don't think BO6, or CW, can quite hold a candle to the older games, they're both genuinely amazing and supremely enjoyable experiences in and of themselves, and they absolutely deserve the credit for it.

[@legionman2441]

lol no

[@crocsarethepurestformofwea3122]

@legionman2441 what a truly insightful comment

[@Jason-eu5zx]

Exactly, only people who never played the game or given it a chance with the augments call it trash. I initially thought it looked like COD mobile game but trying it yourself is a different experience. If you think it’s too easy, you can activate rampage inducer which will make every zombie run 2x faster that they can catch up to you with stamin up. If anything, it’s harder than old zombies.

[@LastGenRichtofenn]

@@Jason-eu5zx bullshit. I have 24+ hours in cold war and 30+ hours in bo6 and have to say they aren't all that. Cold war is DOGSHIT while bo6, while is fun enough, is a massive downgrade to zombies of old. It is fun in co op but solo is a snooze fest. If I am hopping into a zombies game just to camo grind, there is something wrong with the mode.

[@brooklynfernandez645]

They should add cool hud overlays like MOTD

[@Imakethebestcovers]

As of right now i am loving black ops six. I love the bossfights and easter eggs, its gotten me into the easter egg side of things. My only real gripe is the crew and the hud.

[@conorramage5517]

Box is alright/ good if you put zombie blueprints on all the guns. Lota work to marginally increase its effectiveness

[@johnlandeen2972]

A solid review. I'm an individual who has been looking for a based review on the new zombies like this one.

[@useyourimaginasean]

WaW zombies will always be my favorite.

[@Clown_Shingles]

Modern zombies is fine. It just gets boring and repetitive and it just comes down to a camo grind. Old zombies had better mechanics like the objectively better points system. The nintendo ds version also has some good things in it. Like the mystery locker 😮

[@moodygurlification]

You can say the same thing about old zombies it's just nothing you don't even get anything out of it there's no objective because in Black Ops 1 and 2 Easter eggs don't end the game except for Mob of the Dead and Origins and since you can't leave the game without dying which was really fucking stupid I'm glad that that's over at least modern zombies has more than one objective and also did you just say Nintendo DS version I didn't even know that was a thing

[@tyronekhan848]

You have all possibilities and capabilities in black ops 6 classic and new age 👌 ❤

[@tomahawk1495]

I won't lie, he game has so much potential but its ruined by so many out of place mechanics that do nothing but lessen the experience

[@zaneaura84]

I think bo6 fixed the upgrade system with Augments. You dont get all of then you have to pick and choose. Also if you dont want to run any you can unequip them.

[@tehcod6157]

BLACK OPS 6 IS GOATED

[@ElijahCastillo-k9o]

Im personally not mad at how the maps in bo6 are designed in regards to atmosphere. Liberty falls is moments after an outbreak and evacuation that a strike team is sent to basically lock up so its not gonna look as run down as a map like tranzit. Terminus is a facility map overran by zombies, its gonna have some higher tech and experimentation areas like der riese or ascension but yet again moments after an outbreak with some of their experiments gone wrong running about. Citadelle des morts has the design aspects and even kraft says the place is haunted, the quests for the swords are decent but when you compare it to treyarchs only other castle map or even origins the atmosphere is lacking. Everything about those 2 maps and what you were doing had all the sense of fantasy that citadelle doesnt have except for maybe the boss fight and thats my main gripe with it. Then yet again its another map where a group is currently attempting something for their own accord and our group shows up and zombies break out. Theres not really any room to implement elements the old treyarch used to even tho they have done it such as the radios giving lore to the overall story versus backstory to a certain map that when put together creates the whole storyline. Theres too much in front of you at one time where once you know whats happening youre already bored because the next map doesnt come out for the next couple months

[@ZombieSlayerKN44]

Citadelle came out on my birthday 😅

[@Genga816]

Please read this comment: Everything you said about the difficulty is cool and all, but it isn't the reality. The reality is, playing the game normally, training, camping (with ww or whatever), is incredibly difficult, arguably impossible past round 10 due to the boss spam HOWEVER, what is STUPIDLY easy is spamming mutant injections and RCXD's. This is the fatal flaw of black ops 6's difficulty. It's actually the easiest game to get round 100 in, even easier than cold war. Why? You just gather a decent amount of salvage and you can spam killstreaks Why does no one mention this when talking about the difficulty in this game? It's only hard when you want to play the fun way, and easy when you want to play the boring way ( killstreaks ).

[@Genga816]

Very good video though. Wish you touched on the killstreak spam stuff but it's all good its a nicher thing I guess.

[@dr.cocacola]

This game is harder than Cold War if you’re just using the guns since they get weaker in the 30s rounds

[@Genga816]

@@dr.cocacola Yea I agree, pretty sure I was pretty clear on that in my OG comment " The reality is, playing the game normally, training, camping (with ww or whatever), is incredibly difficult "

[@moodygurlification]

It's been that way since forever dude the way that you do it is the only thing that changes as I once said if you choose the system anyone can get around 100 but if you play the game how it's actually intentioned you're not getting around 100😂

[@shawnblount1349]

I feel the only thing wrong with zombies today is the economy everything else is fine to me

[@MuscledRMHv2]

I still miss some form of personality that we had in classic maps with the original cast and the special casts like Mob of the Dead.x Liberty Falls just looks like a sunny day with zombies. Terminus has a cool vibe but still lacks something (not sure what) and Citadelle also feels too clean again imo.

[@fletcherroe6686]

I’ve never seen a video that’s speaks to me like this. But what can you do cod will be cod. Oh how I reminisce….

[@0xycon]

The point system wasn't nearly as bad in CW since most of the weapons didn't fall off until the late 40s but since guns fall off sooner in bo6 it really shows how expensive pap is and how limited u are in options

[@theWheezy]

And that’s truly what I hate most in this system, the limited options. There’s hardly a decent method to claw your way back from rock bottom

[@TheSoulsSlayer]

bo6 zombies is great but the game has alot of issues. This is my list what I dont like about bo6 zombies. 1. it has loadouts that makes the box useless. 2. if you buy an perk for the first time then other perks gets expensive 3. the new point system is just bad. you dont get enough points. 4. some wonder weapons like beam smasher and elemental swords are not op. they are great but still not op. 5. if you run far away from zombies then they just spawn behind you. 6. armor makes the game also too easy. I just dont like armors. 7. they need to nerf normal weapons and buff wonder weapons more. 8. we want unlimited pause timer. 15 minutes is not enough if you are trying to do the easter egg. 9. killstreaks are too op we dont want that. killstreaks makes the game too easy. 10. super sprinters if you hit round 50. then zombies run super fast and you need to camp and use killstreaks thats just boring.

[@woahtherebucko1758]

Instead of some of these comments being elitists about og or new zombies just play both what’s so wrong with that? If you like the older games go play them they didn’t go anywhere

[@elliott1996jsr]

Wait 30 mins to reach round 31 … what I’ve had games last 2 hours and only been on 45+

[@theWheezy]

I activate the rampage inducer to speed it up. The inducer makes not only the zombies faster, but also there is almost no wait time in between rounds. Coop could also be longer if you’re doing that

[@Froezone]

idk man i got the wonder weapon for Terminus 7/15 runs i had with my friend. made the easter egg a whole lot easier

[@KunaiCat]

13:58 CODZ mobile (old): First time?

[@rodplays3726]

I hate the mystery box system the super weapons are rare and you have to get to a higher round in order to get a better chance for a good weapon thats stupid in my opinion i always liked gambling on the mystery box early in the game but its pointless now especially since we can just go into the game with a fully decked out gun

[@samgraffen9212]

Wall weapons are also made pointless by the fact you can just buy ammo for every gun, you're starting weapon can be reliably refiled so no reason to ditch it.

[@rodplays3726]

@samgraffen9212 and you can upgrade the tiers I very much dislike these mechanics

[@Mikey-uj3dc]

​@@rodplays3726we all do

[@CPTPRICECOD]

It gives you a pistol automatically if you don’t change it

[@rodplays3726]

@CPTPRICECOD I know that but ofc I'm going to do what's best and use a good gun it just takes away from the mystery box

[@user-vg5kh2cf1b]

People should just stop complaining lol, bo2 was 12 years ago get over it😂

[@Twicelovetwicelife]

The rounds are not faster, its actually way slower. Look at your match time at the end of the game

[@Twicelovetwicelife]

I agree with everything else though, storyline is written by AI, its actually just horrible and has no life

[@theWheezy]

Maybe I’ll have to do an actual time test on the older ones, but I don’t remember getting up to round 31 in around 30 minutes. That’s my usual time. Even without the rampage inducer, the rounds don’t last as long and zombies start off faster. If it somehow wasn’t faster, it sure does feel like it

[@Twicelovetwicelife]

@@theWheezy maybe it’s round 20 you’re thinking of, cause that usually takes about 30 min. They throw a lot more zombies at you per round in this game than in any other installment, it’s kinda bizarre

[@ZombieNausea]

P.S. "Save and Quit" doesn't let you play any other game of Zombies as long as you have a save file... So you CAN'T save and quit your game, go play with your friends for a game or two then go back to the save game. You HAVE to load the saved game.. It's not all that great tbh

[@dyland7401]

Yes you can, playing a zombies game with friends won't override your save file, you can even play a solo game just as long as you don't save and quit after

[@zoovaado7759]

This is incorrect

[@PeppinSpaghett.]

This is just. Wrong lmao. I have carried multiple people through the Citadelle and Terminus EE’s and I still have my Liberty Falls Save from Launch.

[@moodygurlification]

The misinformation here is crazy dude this has to be on purpose😂

[@ZombieNausea]

@@moodygurlification Have you tried it? unless they fixed it, it certainly does happen. Go save and quite then try to play that map WITHOUT loading your save... It will delete your save if you chose to play it... Why do people post stuff when they don't even know what the conversation is about?

[@patricioreyes1717]

What a great video

[@samuelthe3rd1]

vibey vid

[@LSB44446]

Citadelle is fantastic, but BO6 suffers from being always online and being the first and likely not last COD to use AI, as well as being the one that truly introduced the slop. The voice actor removal is also a deep scar on the gamd's zombies.

[@pauldunny2951]

The glaring difference between the 2 versions is that bo6 is destroyed with woke dei shit.

[@phnmnl48]

Back in the days. Training zombies for 24 hours and have a great time. Nowadays. Standing in a corner with a wonder weapon, yawning every 30 seconds. Back in the days getting to high rounds meant you have skills. Nowadays it just means you saw a KZbin video on how to camp to 100

[@lucasromo-zc9wu]

Nostalgia warrior

[@OutlawedPoet]

If you legitimately think running around in circles on Kino or Acension with the Thundergun was about skill and not just a test of patience, then you probably don't know much about zombies to begin with.

[@superlalaowned-gameplaysof3343]

LOL

[@phnmnl48]

No you would train zombies to obtain enough points to start a fast strategy. Nice try nub. Camper triggered xD. Tho, modern Ascension strategies don't quite fall in this category anymore. In that case you would train the zombies to get enough points to obtain the wonder weapon and gershes. To do a strategy that does NOT involve comping. I took away your little victory for today. GG

[@superlalaowned-gameplaysof3343]

LOL!!!!!! This shit getting heated.

[@williams7713]

If bo3 had better fov id like it, I play bo6 with classic bo1 settings i also bring in only pistol

[@carlitosdinkler5213]

i despise the weapon rarities, that shit should've never been in zombies in the first place. and the new point system really does suck and is not fun.

[@ZombieNausea]

Ralphtastic Vs. Classic

[@Killbill011]

tbh bo6 got some things wrong tho. ik the point system sucks dookie water. the other thing js loadouts and operator's

[@dreasher]

bo6 citadel zoms is decent but boss zombies every round and easter egg focused maps are just crap I want to run around and see how far I can get while more and more zombies running at me not pull up a youtube video or website to know how to solve a code.. Also having every bullet not give points anymore takes away the stock weapon meta... I dont want zombies to feel like a job I want to have fun with my mates

[@scoposteve8470]

I gotta disagree with you, so far it’s easily the weakest treyarch zombies game yet. It lacks the enjoyability of CW, and the gems of Bo4. It’s not even remotely comparable with WaW-Bo3

[@kyzaar2]

Lmao wtf cold war and bo6 are almost the same 💀Another back in my day zombies were hard!!1!