The Greatest Race You'll Ever See At The NORDSCHLEIFE

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

Would you like to see an F1 race at Nordschleife?

[@Carterbrown968]

no bc it is dangerous

[@danielgerstenberger3561]

Would love to but im realistic enough that it wont happen

[@notaqua]

No because the fans in attendance basically wouldn't see it. Nobody is paying F1 ticket prices to see a car once every 6 minutes

[@michaellarkin6158]

As long as the voiceover wasn't the same as this video

[@bagyoundoy4145]

F1 race at DAYTONA

[@abigmonster8457]

That Mercedes did alot better than I thought

[@NODNABeats]

Well it's the actual GT3 version so it won't be anything like the road car.

[@sarius4429]

F1 car is a AI and Gt3 is not

[@wjddlrdh7126]

@@sarius4429 Both driven by person I think

[@DeltaRacing-vg2lv]

@@wjddlrdh7126yep, AI can technically pull more time than some drivers, but their driving style is very aggressive, which is not what u can see on the replay telemetry. AI drivers would have very sharp changes in braking, accel and steering

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@NODNABeatsLMGT2 cars cornering speed at Nordschleife is slightly below LMGT3 present day cars as well.

[@fre3z3r68]

That's why I love sim racing so much, you can do things that wouldn't be possible in real life. It's nice to see how fast an F1 car is on the Schleife

[@guilhermefonseca1562]

Iirc RedBull did something similar, but it was at the Australia GP, not as great as nurburgring

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@guilhermefonseca1562Surfers Paradise Circuit?

[@Letsberealish]

Why wouldn't this be possible in real life? These cars exist. The track exists.

[@DaveEd2499.]

@@LetsberealishThe track is too bumpy as it’s not an actual track, it’s a road. Plus it’s too long of a lap for fuel meaning it would only be a few laps long

[@biljancanin]

​@@Letsberealish you can't do this kind of lap on the Nordschleife with the current ground effect F1 cars. Way too bumy, so the F1 cars would suddenly lose a lot of down force, making them much easier to snap, spin and therefore crash. They would need to druve carefully, while the GT3 cars could race just as they always do. Now, take the older F1 cars, all up till 2021, and you would see a similar result as in the video...

[@mundea]

that Mercedes is rapid, but looks like a complete snail compared to the F1 car

[@ozymandiaspl3856]

I mean... what wouldnt. I you propably would, i most likely would.

[@hersencell6880]

People tend to forget that GT3’s are some of the fastest racing cars out there. They’re reaching 250-290 kph (depending on the track). Also the cornering speed is ridiculous compared to other closed racing cockpit cars (which aren’t Hypercars, LMP’s and GT500’s). IIrc they reach lateral g forces of 3 to 4.

[@Marshallander]

LmH, lmp1 wouldn't

[@hillclimbracingfan5821]

@@hersencell6880GT3s don’t reach that high G force in corner-those are Super GT500 numbers.

[@TheFredster32]

The F1 car is literally a bullet bill in comparison

[@emanisfunny2455]

6:20, horrifying hearing the roar of the f1 behind the gt3

[@jonas.S06]

Now imagine it with a V10 from the F2004 screaming

[@international-F3000]

The sight of the F1 approaching is like a horror movie

[@mandreshyp6683]

It was closer than I thought

[@redtail1.]

It wasn't really close but it was

[@projectilequestion]

Maybe they tested out a few combos first before they got that result

[@theslipstreamer06]

Can you do it with Monza 1966 ring layout and today's layout? Every lap the F1 needs to complete the lap with the old ring and the Mercedes needs to complete every lap without the ring, I think it would be a close battle

[@henriqueslacerda3242]

doing "bravery corner" flat-out is insane

[@JunoBuh]

It'd be nice to have some crazy multiclass in Sims. Something like gt3, f1, sf, hypercar, gt4, radical, or whatever is fun to race with, all in a single track.

[@Exponaut_R-01]

Concepts like that account for probably 45% of my hours in AC alone. Multiclass with eras of any given class, prototype generations, all the formula cars, Class 1 and TCR, F1/Indy/P1... Nearly endless combinations.

[@GraveUypo]

that's all i did back in forza motorsport 4. i'd go to the nordscheilfer and put one car from each game class (f through to S) in the track, picking specific cars that pretty much tied with the staggered starts i gave. then i picked a random car out of those to drive. no matter which one you pick you have a shot at winning. it's always tense and fun. too bad that game doesn't let you do custom races like that offline, otherwise i'd still be playing it. and the new game only caters to boring generic multiplayer and don't even allow player lobbies like this

[@bernardo82brazitaly]

I was expecting the F1 overtake at sector 2, but that GT3 was holding till the end, epic battle! Suggestion: a minimap would really help understand the gap between the two, in big circuits like the Nurbürgring is difficult to recognise where the cars truly are and their gap

[@GansHanders]

If you know that lay out and circuit you know exactly where they are.

[@AloneRacecar]

I love GT as much as love F1. And to see these two battle it out on the Nürburgring nordschleife is an interesting treat to watch!

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

Glad you liked it buddy!

[@atom6_]

Can we just appreciate the sound physics it is absurdly close to the real thing, amazing stuff. would be nice if you add a realtime track-tracker to see where both are on the track.

[@JLewisRacing927]

Would love a track map if possible for this, would be really cool to see

[@valecasini]

7:10 80Km/h of difference 🤯

[@Evolution_BR811]

Next time, try comparing a Group C car with a current F1 car. It could be with a Nissan R92CP or a Peugeot 905, which are my favorites 😊

[@JohnMcLon-tt8il]

How bout current lmp with group c

[@_Vino.]

Fantastic idea honestly im curious too ​@@JohnMcLon-tt8il

[@DeiKuromu]

The cornering speed of a modern F1 around the Schleife is terrifying

[@biljancanin]

You won't see that with ground effect cars. The ring is way too bumpy for that. Losing downforce in almost every corner wouldn't be fun. It's easy to do in a sim since only the downforce parameter is counted, not how they get it. That's why you won't se an accurate representation of a ground effect F1 car on the ring.

[@DeiKuromu]

@biljancanin You must have felt very comfortable lecturing me about things that I already knew about since I don't know... Gran Turismo 4? Dude, it's a video game after all. Relax whatever you've got down there, no current F1 team is going to check it out what both of us we're saying. Maybe in 10, 20, 30 years when it won't matter anymore.

[@mantasmickievicius527]

Can you next time include a map of the cars so we can compare where they are better

[@mattkennedy371]

I thought the Red Bull would catch the Merc up before Mini Carousel. The Benz did good.

[@ColonelKrukov]

I'd love to see more of these types of races with different car/track combinations. I really like this idea!

[@leonopterix981]

that F1 car is just better in every measurable way, but that was still way closer than i expected.

[@jimlansa7098]

is this assetto corsa?

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

Yes

[@Formulaaaaaaaa5]

We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I (do I) A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (say it) Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on) We know the game and we're gonna play it And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (to say it) Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on) We know the game and we're gonna play it I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you ( This is just to troll My friend, ignore it )

[@Endermate465]

Chistoso Estamos jugando The Game

[@Formulaaaaaaaa5]

​@@Endermate465chistoso ( funny ) 👌🏻

[@ibrahimali3192]

@@Endermate465 I lost The Game

[@funnyshorts6830]

Awesome video again mate

[@FangedGoose]

I get there isn't exactly a way to have them both be on the track and different tracks, but you did a great job editing the runs together.

[@slainehalouze7775]

What are the names of the 3 apps used in the "telemetry" part of the video? i'd like to use the one where you see the car and the track limits

[@ZeZwede]

a GT3 car is insanely fast around a track. But looking the side by side at the end in the twisty section it's just absurd how quick an f1 is on track.

[@MatthiaGryffine]

This is brilliant

[@sitramaybe]

Wow that was wayyyyyy closer than I thought

[@VollstandigErleuchtung]

I know that the f1 car does 1.30sec around the gp and 5mins on the nordschleife, so a time of 6.30sec, remember seeing gt3 do 6.30sec from a recent search so i knew it'll be a close one.

[@Le_Alexandre]

The tension!! It’s almost intense!

[@r.a.6459]

With similar concept, can you do F1 V10 vs WEC Hypercar on the 2001 Hockenheim layout? Maybe a 5-lapper...

[@Pengu_VR]

if the gt3 ended where he started it'd have been even closer

[@94nolo]

that V6 turbo is such a beautiful sound.

[@dero2430]

🤢🤮

[@biljancanin]

Said no one ever besides you

[@MAdDyMatt]

A lot closer than I was expecting

[@danielw.2884]

4:10 - 4:38 full throttle without the engine losing power when the Kemmel Straight was already enough in the past for the battery to be drained?

[@slavtrooper3851]

Charged the battery during first and second sector so no de rating

[@danielw.2884]

@@slavtrooper3851 with a capacity of 1,1 kWh and a power output of 118 kW the maximum time at full charge would be 33 seconds. So while theoretically possible it is more than unlikely that after Ex-Mühle to Bergwerk section the battery would be at full charge.

[@slavtrooper3851]

@@danielw.2884 well it’s not a carbon copy of real life

[@danielw.2884]

@@slavtrooper3851 Which was exactly my point. Just a little more fun math: Highest speed before braking at Bergwerk corner (4:05) is 308 km/h (85 m/s) and slowest speed 163 km/h (45 m/s) so if all the energy would be recovered that would be equal to 0,18 kWh of kinetic energy. So around 16% energy recovered after going full throttle 3:56 to 4:05 taking the 33 seconds into acound that would mean that around 27% of charge was used which would mean that 89% would be the highest we could hope for. Considering we haven't taken into account possible losses and a huge part of the kinetic energy would be converted into heat by the brakes... Yes, clearly not a carbon copy ;) Enjoy your weekend :)

[@DamarFadlan25]

The V8 SUPERCAR at Nordschleife also fits perfectly.

[@mat-sd7eh]

can't help but notice your channel pic has a bike among other cars 🧐 considering the experiments done when are we going to see an video for one?

[@marion3870]

What are the graphics settings??

[@grahamhill4113]

Nice vid. Merc would have had it with "real" suspension settings. No way the RB could take some of these kerbs without breaking

[@biljancanin]

Almost none of these corners would be raken as they did in th3 video with ground effect cars. Way too bumpy. Add the cerbs on top of that... yeah, not with current F1 cars...

[@PeepEspino]

Buddy what graphics settings and mods do you use? 🖤

[@alekosalekadis6095]

Hello brother. Can you fix drs indicator in speedometer to know when you press drs. Thanks

[@egj1975]

What a cool comparison...

[@PhilJohn1980]

Which sim?

[@crabnix]

Assetto Corsa. Also, if you see videos like these, you can most of the time safely assume it is AC

[@ImLehwz]

Is this asetto corsa?

[@renatozim1698]

what your mod sound ?

[@ingerasulffs]

Suggestion: G-force counter for the F1 car.

[@TraceyButtigieg]

You should race an F1 Car & GTR3 Car on a Track that has an Inside Lane & an Outside Lane

[@tylahny_]

does anyone have the map link?

[@greatwallofmeat]

Going flat out at the fox hole is just pure insanity

[@biljancanin]

That's how you're supposed to take Foxhole. You break after you start climbing up again.

[@joshuaf7654]

What game is this?

[@bolty4102]

What F1 mod is that/sound mod?

[@oceaninc34]

what is the name of this game?

[@Lnklime]

Now Lemans Hypercar vs F1

[@TheGreatIndoors1979]

If the Mercedes would have been clocked passing the s/f line on the Nordschleife-only layout instead of s/f line of the gp circuit, it would've won.

[@Dr.Ian-Plect]

No way! The F1 was right behind before the last corner, it would have carved a quicker radius around it over the line.

[@TheGreatIndoors1979]

@@Dr.Ian-Plect You're not getting it. The premise of this video was to see if the GT car could beat the F1 car on the different layout. They should've finished on their own seperate finish lines corresponding with the layout.

[@azzifyy5988]

@@TheGreatIndoors1979The F1 car is too fast anyway. Either it had unlimited energy or it's running Monza level downforce without losing in the corners. A flawed model but fun regardless.

[@Dr.Ian-Plect]

@@TheGreatIndoors1979 noted

[@kukuc96]

But on the other hand, the F1 car got a track layout that is not used by any racing series (and is longer and slower than any real layouts). The real N24 layout shortcuts the Mercedes Arena, and uses the faster last chicane on the GP track instead of the slow GP layout chicane.

[@oswindsouza6757]

Would have been better if you had showed the track map as well

[@biljancanin]

Why?

[@robertleeimages]

Roughly 35 seconds behind at the 1st carousel, and 12 seconds at the 2nd 😮

[@kukuc96]

That's probably the section with the greatest pace difference. It's all medium to high speed corners, the ones where downforce does the most.

[@robertleeimages]

@@kukuc96 my comment is more about how close it was by those 2 places after first doing the extra f1 circuit length

[@joshawott331]

Might try this on gt7 gonna be a super formula tho

[@NurburgkingE30]

Which game is this channel using?

[@ColinKasper55]

It looks like Assetto Corsa to me.

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

Assetto Corsa!

[@Nerdybetta]

Does ac not have an RB20 mod because you keep using the RB19?

[@crabnix]

I think VRC just released their 2024 mod like a few days ago or something. Nothing by RSS yet

[@Avto28]

It felt that F1 car wasn't being driven to the absolute max if its ability.

[@ObiKurt]

the f1 car sounds exactly how it should

[@WJS316]

What's the game? AC or Iracing?

[@DanielDennett-l9n]

AC. iRacing never looked this good

[@oliver21.]

Holy shit that was epic

[@Mogis_Lee]

Am I the only one who thought the gt3 car looked like the safety car for one second

[@jachymp]

the video below in my feed had the safety car on the thumbnail, I was staring at it for a moment lol

[@entityeoe2285]

Actually how would a gt500 racecar do in a race like this against an f2004 or like tge w11

[@zinedinezidane8398]

next time put both cars onboard for the whole video

[@marijn17s]

GT3 > F1. More speed isn't always better. If anything, the slower the cars, the better the racing

[@KitKitChanIsaac]

GT3 is the real pinnacle of motorsport.

[@danielw.2884]

@@KitKitChanIsaac a series with TC, ABS & BoP the pinnacle of motorsport? Nothing against the racing but the cars were meant for AM drivers.

[@iiPolaris]

@@danielw.2884 no shit, and yet still has better and closer racing than f1

[@rohanalias9053]

​@@danielw.2884You gonna make some people mad with that statement

[@ryanchivwara5013]

GT3 racing is still fast lets not forget that. But its vastly different from F1 racing. Its important to respect both and remember they're both interesting in their own way

[@kirre_motion3437]

The GT3 won the Sound challenge by far

[@SCP_ISD_05-1]

If u can, try to find a mao of the Sudschleife, its much scarier than the GP track

[@biljancanin]

I don't think anyone would be able to make an accurate layout of it. With all the elevation and everything...

[@mclarenfrog11]

You should do this but instead of a f1 car you should do with the 919 evo

[@gatesofvalhalla8136]

Relentless F1

[@KnightofAstora1998]

This video would be so much better with a map that shows where the cars are :(

[@guilhermeapg]

6:15 F1 gained 7s on 1 single corner?

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

2 corners, and 1 km of straight 🤓

[@Kimmerah-64]

The Mercedes trying to "defend" at the last corner lol

[@steffycondones]

whst game?

[@el_william9557]

Assetto corsa

[@AcManoloxkasha]

The Mercedes is One of the Most Underrated Gt3 Cars

[@noobster172]

red bull with mercedes engine is crazy

[@blackthunderty]

technicaly the Mercedes had to take a right at the last corner but yeah great race

[@SirAndoy]

Try the 2021 Mercedes F1 W11 It has more grip on this track and potentially you will be faster.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Even when racing with Nurburgring 24hr layout, F1 cars are still faster than LMGT3 cars.

[@RGWL_37]

They need a time difference between the 2

[@gamestop2991]

Does anyone have the f1 mod?

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

It's the RSS Formula Hybrid 2023

[@gamestop2991]

@@THEWINDTUNNEL thanks

[@ernestoditerribile]

Design of the steering wheel it's display and the buttons are wrong. Also the design of the side pods, the diffuser, front and rear wing and barge boards are off. The exhaust is wrong. And you never used DRS.

[@ernestoditerribile]

Also no mode 6 for battery charging or mode 7(Overtake)

[@franco_av2]

AND THE RB20 MOD?

[@Maverick9k]

Why is the merc slowing himself down in that twisty section? I have never dropped down to 2nd gear ever in any sim or any arcade game in that section.

[@apstjohn]

Why AMG GT going to GP layout at finish?😂

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

It's a race on the longest combined Nürburgring with the GT3 car already starting on the Nordschleife. That's why they shared the GP finish line

[@davidappelgate320]

That was WAY too close than it had any right to be. Pretty sure the GT3 would have reached the Industriefahrten start/finish before the F1 car reached the GP start/finish... that might have been the difference!

[@albertsynnerstrom3165]

Porsche 919 evo vs f1?

[@SkylineBNR34]

5.5gs in an F1 car to 3.5 in the GT3 car.

[@kirre_motion3437]

"But Plaid smokes them both...." "Plaid: hold my beer" "wait for the Tesla roadster to come and smoke them all" ..... Only to complete the comments with the common Tesla fanboy words 😅😅😅

[@venom15moguy75]

lowkey i think the gt3 was under the limit in terms of overall speed. coulda took sections faster

[@biljancanin]

Except, the ground effect F1 cars wouldn't be able to gi this fast around the ring. Up to 2021 cars yes, but the Nordschleife is way too bumpy for the goud effect era of cars. Hence, if this was a real race, and both would go to their limits, with the start position they had in this race, the F1 car would lose by a lot. Take any F1 car before 2022 and you'll have a much better representation, tho, the outcome would be like this one in the video, but not with ground effect cars

[@UrijTamasov]

Wie wahrs mit einer Ducati aus motogp?

[@sergio_81]

NO DRS on the straights

[@r35killa]

In my opinion... GT3 >>>>> F1

[@Dishanta_Goswami]

Many wouldn't agree but okay

[@r35killa]

@@Dishanta_Goswami I just find it more interesting to watch IMSA or WEC or similar over F1, especially GT3

[@jonathaniipinge8796]

Make the f1 car do 2 laps

[@UnderGeorge]

without watching, f1 will defo win, but I wager the overtake to be somewhere close to the carousel after watching: haha I was so off it's not even funny

[@damienpenny]

The difference between a fast car and aerodynamics😅

[@tylersmith3533]

Yeah, not a chance that this is even close to representative. I saw at least one occasion of kerb usage that would have sent the F1 car to outer space. Also interested in how much you cranked up the downforce on the F1 car to make sure it didn't fly off the track at the jump and either just shatter or completely lose control by going over it conpletely full throttle while the GT3 had to brake hard into it? Even more interested in how you set the ride height and suspension. F1 cars would need to be at pretty much maximum ride height to even survive the Nordschleife, never mind softening the suspension significantly, all of which would reduce its top speed to a lot lower than was achieved in this video. I think the sim you're using here has some very obvious limitations that make this super unrealistic.