Is it Right to Put the Election Commission in the Dock?

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Ай бұрын

The Constitution mandates the Election Commission (EC) to conduct free and fair elections in India, the backbone of India’s democracy. But how free and fair are our elections today? Serious questions have been raised over the functioning of the Election Commission (EC) in recent years particularly after the Supreme Court’s Order in May, 2023 about appointments to the EC. Kapil Sibal explores the many aspects of how level the playing field being created by the EC is, with ex-EC Ashok Lavasa, ex-CEC S.Y. Qureshi and Maj Gen (retd) Anil Verma, head of the election watchdog, Association for Democratic Reforms (ADR)
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@mariafernandes6486
@mariafernandes6486 Ай бұрын
As a young student during my college days i had admired the guts of CEC Seshan who single handedly would stand up to his responsibilities as CEC. I have yet to come across a person like him whom no one dared to question or go against since he worked as per the constitution.
@technomusic2551
@technomusic2551 Ай бұрын
Present EC is bias. Why check only Rahul Ghandi chopper and not of Modi, Amit Shah or any BJP (NDA) ?
@raghuramkondapuramraghuram5158
@raghuramkondapuramraghuram5158 Ай бұрын
Jungle Raj is not acceptable.
@raghuramkondapuramraghuram5158
@raghuramkondapuramraghuram5158 Ай бұрын
Mr. Seshan the election commissioner was a terror and all pms shivered on his speaking
@raghuramkondapuramraghuram5158
@raghuramkondapuramraghuram5158 Ай бұрын
Election commission is responsible to govt of india and not political leaders
@dannyfernandes6031
@dannyfernandes6031 Ай бұрын
he belongs to the bjp
@majidsadique8009
@majidsadique8009 Ай бұрын
Yes we agree with your comments, regarding Mr Rahul Gandhi ji, chopper, why EC check??? Should be check all of political parties,. 🇮🇳✌,...
@safarkerang9615
@safarkerang9615 Ай бұрын
Use of agencies during election against opposition leaders shall stopped..
@edwinraja1
@edwinraja1 Ай бұрын
Love to hear this kind of discussion from eminent leaders. India needs your wisdom.
@f.f.truthjustice7618
@f.f.truthjustice7618 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately only few or a minority can understand their discussion.
@dhirendrakumar6965
@dhirendrakumar6965 Ай бұрын
TheRespected Sibal Sir ,The present discussion shoude also be in hindi.
@safarkerang9615
@safarkerang9615 Ай бұрын
Unfair practices are in vogue and ECI is silent...
@databreeze
@databreeze Ай бұрын
These types of discussions should be done in Hindi so that mass could gain, for they are the one who vote and are ill informed.
@keramnadu2946
@keramnadu2946 Ай бұрын
All of them high dignitaries.very important discussion.Thanks to wire and team 👍
@chaudharyramkashyap1598
@chaudharyramkashyap1598 Ай бұрын
IT'S FINE MR. KAPIL SIBAL TO MAKE THE PEOPLE AWARE ABOUT LEGAL DELICACIES AND PROBLEMS WE'RE FACING DAY TODAY.
@shielarajan8933
@shielarajan8933 Ай бұрын
To EC - is 2024 Election free and fair? If not, what is your duty? The finance of Congress is frozen. The CM and other Ministers of APP are in Jail without trial. How do they canvas for Elections. The aircraft of Rahul Gandhi is checked. What about aircraft of PM and HM and others
@PraakashRanjann
@PraakashRanjann Ай бұрын
Congress needs to banned permanently for doing election frauds for 70 yrs
@varmansomu9727
@varmansomu9727 Ай бұрын
I suspect ECI is not doing all these stupid things checking Rahul chopper , arresting Opposition leaders . criminal group under rightwing acts behind ECI to stop opposition coming to power. It is dangerous situation prevailing now.
@jamesdavis9438
@jamesdavis9438 Ай бұрын
The ECI is no more an institution that once it was. It has lost its credibility. We need people like Mr. Seshan who had a spine.
@PraakashRanjann
@PraakashRanjann Ай бұрын
Now EC says, they are no more Congi slaves.They are free now
@preal246
@preal246 Ай бұрын
Sadly eci and team are chamchagiris of the duo in power😢
@andy22222ify
@andy22222ify Ай бұрын
Why isnt this more Mainstream. Is India even a democracy Any more? Why is this just on you tube?
@safarkerang9615
@safarkerang9615 Ай бұрын
ECI should act suo moto to stop any activity that disturb level playing field... What ECi is doing?
@zainsmedia4325
@zainsmedia4325 Ай бұрын
Please do necessary action to protect our nation
@sanahanbiksh925
@sanahanbiksh925 Ай бұрын
Not only ECI also CBI, ED ,NIA is require in this situation
@gregario888
@gregario888 Ай бұрын
The Election Commissioner is not Caeser's wife. If he works shoddily then he should be hauled up in an exceptional way. Exceptional since he runs an independent outfit and has widespread powers.
@mariafernandes6486
@mariafernandes6486 Ай бұрын
Why, the EC even refused to meet the opposition leaders who wanted to discuss election related matters!
@JosephPintoHarry1941
@JosephPintoHarry1941 Ай бұрын
Who can descipline EC? CJI will be shy
@Deshbhaktl5857
@Deshbhaktl5857 Ай бұрын
Just check the histories of Election Commissioners, selected by Khangressi PMs. Some of the ECs behaviors were just like a pet dog of Khangressi
@smiritigoswamiclass-5.398
@smiritigoswamiclass-5.398 Ай бұрын
We are always with neutral and intellectual media and Wire.❤😂🎉.
@arulsoosai1330
@arulsoosai1330 Ай бұрын
Very enlightening discussion on an important topic of the day. Thank you for arranging such an important discussion.
@korlagundihanumesha53
@korlagundihanumesha53 Ай бұрын
Wow intellectually discussion must required interview 💐💐
@GpsgGPSGrewal
@GpsgGPSGrewal Ай бұрын
Wonderful, talented panel ; all participants have impeccable credibility. Shri S Y Qureshi was CEC in times when EVM's were standalone instruments. Not anymore. Umpteen instances are available where , more or less, manipulation of EVM has been proved . Current dispensation managing ECI are no longer of same caliber or asimpartial as yoo , Seshan or Lyndogh were i
@f.f.truthjustice7618
@f.f.truthjustice7618 Ай бұрын
What a wonderful discussion?
@sandipchatterjee321
@sandipchatterjee321 Ай бұрын
Yes.very much so. For that matter every constitutional authority who strays from the straight and narrow path should be put on the dock and given maximum punishment.
@JosephPintoHarry1941
@JosephPintoHarry1941 Ай бұрын
Who can do that?
@nagaiahgovindarajalu8110
@nagaiahgovindarajalu8110 Ай бұрын
salute great information center
@Imran-ro8ey
@Imran-ro8ey Ай бұрын
Kapil sir🙏 ye ECI ke log desh ke nazar se geer gaiye hain
@Anilkumar-wo1mo
@Anilkumar-wo1mo Ай бұрын
Well done good job and debate as well regarding EC on conducting or implementing of model code of conduct. Though I personally feel that EC in India is very neutral but coming to the ground realities the EC on the whole is some thing is very different and where the EC shows some sort of favour to the ruling dispensation of the day . Kapil sibal sir where and when this act of EC is going to end. And in long run in my view the voter will ignore voting because why should we vote where the system is eventually not fair.
@parimalbardhan7367
@parimalbardhan7367 Ай бұрын
EC must apply its mind & act proactively & not merely to wait to react on the basis of a complaint.It must act upfront.
@mohammadrafiqshah890
@mohammadrafiqshah890 Ай бұрын
Good and meaningful discussion. God bless you all respectful personality.
@karimganjassam1476
@karimganjassam1476 Ай бұрын
No matter what Constitution says ! The Matter Works what PMO Says
@ajitpandey4087
@ajitpandey4087 Ай бұрын
Enlightening !!
@shaikomerbashoeb9884
@shaikomerbashoeb9884 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jdsouza123
@jdsouza123 29 күн бұрын
They seem to be shunning their responsibility. Now the people of India/Bharat should go out (heat or rain) and vote. Vote them out.
@sureshmurty6523
@sureshmurty6523 Ай бұрын
No discussion speaks about intimidation of top officials by Modi and Shah. They have forgotten Gujarat, Haren Pandya, judge Loya etc. etc.? Lavasa himself was intimidated and resigned from his job. The ED and CBI are acting as a private agency or the Gestapo of the government. When a beaurucrat and his family are brought under pressure he will succumb. This is hitting at the core of our democracy. Even the SBI chairman was prepared to face contempt of court and face prosecution. Why? Because he may have been worried about his job and personal safety.
@amareshroy7732
@amareshroy7732 Ай бұрын
Mr kapil sibal ji is a great thinker as well as an ace solicitor.his views on various subjects have great weights.
@safarkerang9615
@safarkerang9615 Ай бұрын
Manipulation of electoral roles is serious areas that need attention....
@gretataurogrettatauro9862
@gretataurogrettatauro9862 Ай бұрын
Hope d CEC, RAJIV KUMAR & d govt is watching dis programme & takes cognisance of all d discussions, in the interest of India & all its ELECTORATES, in order to hv free, fair & impartial forthcoming Lok Sabha Election.
@only4you_
@only4you_ Ай бұрын
शुक्रिया ❤
@profdrsiva
@profdrsiva 9 күн бұрын
All those officers who have failed to act according to the spirit of constitution must be prosecuted and jailed,if law required, to set the clock in the rule of law direction.
@profdrsiva
@profdrsiva 9 күн бұрын
EC became defunct in the wake of Bjp rejime.
@onkarchadha
@onkarchadha Ай бұрын
Suggest,Hon'ble SC of India need to watch this discussion in all seriousness before hearing out patition on EVM's going by very very valuable suggestions by the two past EC's, ADR chair person and Mr Sibal
@arnabkundu114
@arnabkundu114 Ай бұрын
The answer to every question that Kapil sir asked was that it depends on if the CEC has a spine or not to use the powers given to them in the constitution to conduct a free and fair election ....and in my opinion the current CEC does not have a spine
@mohibquadri4053
@mohibquadri4053 Ай бұрын
Correctly said
@user-tt9js4gq2e
@user-tt9js4gq2e Ай бұрын
Excellent discussion, brings out points, that are in people's mind and give views of Election Commission, from Ex team... Helpful for people like us who understands English, wish similar ones in Hindi/regional language for other parts of India
@sureshbajaj6031
@sureshbajaj6031 Ай бұрын
Thanks
@somilpandey5646
@somilpandey5646 Ай бұрын
Amazing man kudos to you👍👍
@manoharsharma1027
@manoharsharma1027 Ай бұрын
Good discussion
@jessynambiar9096
@jessynambiar9096 Ай бұрын
Truly T S Seshan was the only CEC person who had stood as a strong pillar for fair conduct of elections. Why are the bureaucrats of various departments/ministries intimidated by the politicians.
@raghuramkondapuramraghuram5158
@raghuramkondapuramraghuram5158 Ай бұрын
Sibelius sahab and group. We have been crying for long and unless action is taken 1. Sue AGor chief secretary for mismanagement and. Oilstion of human rights 2. Give notice to the govt that the basic principles and requirements are not met as per democracy and hence if elections are conducted then it will be null and void. For this the prominent lawyers and professionals form a valid committee to safeguard democracy and give legal notices. If this is manipulated we need to slecify that we will not hesitate to seek international court of justice like Africa did on isreal hamas war. We need to act fast and avoid this jungle Raj and murmuring like grand mothers. Find solution . I beg
@raghuramkondapuramraghuram5158
@raghuramkondapuramraghuram5158 Ай бұрын
Sibel sahab. I am aware that in a company if the managing director lagatar outside party ko chedte rahate aur company ka machinery use karte hai effecting Co development then he can be sued under CBT. Are the rules for a nation not same?. Yes it is. Regarding the ED and CBI these are govt bodies and not connected with political party. In fact govt DG SG and EDs are there reporting to AG or chief secretary and need to prevent political leaders pm and ministers not to bring projects or policies effecting the govt. under these circumstances public can sue ED and CBI for taking instructions directly or indirectly from pm or ministers. AG or chief secretary are responsible to give standing orders and if.Violated need to dismiss. Pl examine and find a way to curb the nonsense affecting the gdp of the country and human rights. God bless
@mujibarrahaman4069
@mujibarrahaman4069 Ай бұрын
This is a Very Impressive and Brilliant Discussion and Analysis of Different Responsibility of our Election Commission. But my Personal Opinion is that Present Election Commission Will Not Discharge their Duties Impartially. Which We have already Watched. Thanks Mr. Kapil Sibal, Mr. Quraish, Mr. Ashok and General Shb. Kolkata. Thanks.
@gangadhardharmapuri6413
@gangadhardharmapuri6413 Ай бұрын
Your wonderful personality sir, strongly fight against this waste Modi Amithsha
@safarkerang9615
@safarkerang9615 Ай бұрын
All vvpat shall be court to dispel any doubt on Evm..
@parivrajaka306
@parivrajaka306 Ай бұрын
During his tenure as the Chief Election Commissioner N Gopalaswami on 31 January 2009 sent his recommendation for removal of Election Commissioner Navin Chawla to the President of India.[3] He alleged that Chawla had discharged his duties as Election Commissioner in a partisan manner, seeking to further the interests of "one party." The CEC report contended that Chawla would take breaks during crucial meetings and secretly talk to functionaries of the Congress party and leak confidential details of the Election Commission.[4] Chawla is also reported to have opposed the Election Commission's notice to Sonia Gandhi for her accepting foreign honours from Belgium.[
@anonymous-hk7sq
@anonymous-hk7sq Ай бұрын
Thank you sir, for insight on EC.
@vinita6856
@vinita6856 Ай бұрын
🙌🙌
@arunsajeevan273
@arunsajeevan273 Ай бұрын
#eci
@bindunair9509
@bindunair9509 Ай бұрын
Regarding the soldier ambassador - It is part of politicization of the army
@parivrajaka306
@parivrajaka306 Ай бұрын
At 44:30 I'm startled he says okay to add names but not delete, meaning there a duplication of names! And this man was HRD minister?
@anands9194
@anands9194 Ай бұрын
For LeLis in India, Qureshi is the one & only CEC worth discussing anything about elections in this country. No other CEC exists.
@15keshaw
@15keshaw Ай бұрын
बहुत आनंद आया इन बूढो की फौज का रोना देखकर। और ये बूढा कपिल सिब्बल जो सुप्रीम कोर्ट को अपनी बपौती समझता था उसे अपनी असली औकात सुप्रीम कोर्ट ने दिखा दिया है।
@somilpandey5646
@somilpandey5646 Ай бұрын
Electoral bond pe faisla deke jisse sibal ne argue Kiya tha aur sarkaar or sbi ki Lanka lag gai hai😂😂
@shareefhafeez8090
@shareefhafeez8090 Ай бұрын
Not thousands, hundreds of thousands.
@unitedfriends8187
@unitedfriends8187 Ай бұрын
In Manipur, recruitment processes for various government departments are going on without any disturbance from the ECI. Almost all state government departments issued recruitment notification of various posts and process is going on till this date i.e. 17/04/2024. That of election is on 19/04/2024.
@user-cn2lk7vy5s
@user-cn2lk7vy5s Ай бұрын
If ballot boxes destroyed then same can be applicable to EVM also with same logic. Use ballot paper with party symbol along with barcode to help count similar to currency notes. Only manual count need to be done if there is any doubt.
@geethanilam2857
@geethanilam2857 Ай бұрын
Present EC has to take conscious truthful and fair decision
@balboora3646
@balboora3646 Ай бұрын
Names are allowed to add on site at the polling booth with two pieces of IDs, one of which a picture ID, in Canada!
@manoharsamant7594
@manoharsamant7594 Ай бұрын
Election commission should not shouldered its responsibilities to political parties to confirm the names in electrol rolls. Instead they should establish a full proof system to addition/deletion of the name, in addition to fixation of responsibility.
@georgekoshy6253
@georgekoshy6253 Ай бұрын
This election Commission is a "caged parrot" It should symbolically shift office to Tihar jail. At least it will be more representative in many ways. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@lindarath583
@lindarath583 Ай бұрын
Rightly said. He acts like one. No matter what. He should do his duty diligently as he has a responsibility to our Consitution n our country
@zubeidakalathumpadikkal9503
@zubeidakalathumpadikkal9503 Ай бұрын
When the voice of the people is not heard and thise in power are subservient to the prime minister and not to their constitutional obligations , the people should exercise their combined power .
@arunsajeevan273
@arunsajeevan273 Ай бұрын
#rahulgandhi❤ #election #eci #kejriwal
@sareshn
@sareshn Ай бұрын
👏🙏👏
@rosariopereira2853
@rosariopereira2853 Ай бұрын
We are loosing our constitutional institutions becouse of the irresponsible people heading these instructions. Hope they understand their responsibility to uphold the constitution of out great nation
@rajannair6020
@rajannair6020 Ай бұрын
Any thing can be hacked as long as PEGASUS spyware is with PMO. So keep faith in God to get less vote to NDA so it can't help to get 400+ or 4000 as Nitish Kumar wished to PM last week.😊
@devm3116
@devm3116 Ай бұрын
Without even watching this video I can answer the question in the thumbnail - - - YES !
@hariharrauthan3289
@hariharrauthan3289 Ай бұрын
Whosoever involved in cheating and manuplation will certainly be reprimanded.
@parivrajaka306
@parivrajaka306 Ай бұрын
Can somoene among this esteemed panel recollect the fiasco between former EC N Gopalaswami and Navin Chawla?
@parivrajaka306
@parivrajaka306 Ай бұрын
Conclusion of this debate is EC does a shoddy job, but it's been shoddy forever! So suddenly there's a debate about newfound shoddiness! Selective dementia
@sushantabehuria1563
@sushantabehuria1563 Ай бұрын
Chair se bahar road pe ayi ye log apko sun ne ke liye tayar khada he🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@drdpsinghgonda
@drdpsinghgonda Ай бұрын
सिब्बल जी बहुत ही उपयोगी जानकारी दे रहे है परन्तु किसी तरह यह जानकारियां हिंदी में उपलब्ध कराने का कष्ट करें।
@pristinedips9104
@pristinedips9104 Ай бұрын
Present Election Commissioner is not maintaining any dignity . He is the most biased .He is a public servant & getting his salary from citizen's tax & he should be answerable & loyal to citizens only .He is totally partial . Shame shame .
@mavlble
@mavlble Ай бұрын
As a citizen, i think the EC has lost its mandate and must be held singularly responsible for whatever is happening in the country.
@jitenderrathi9758
@jitenderrathi9758 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@sristijain6230
@sristijain6230 8 күн бұрын
Election Commission #GrowASpineOrResign
@safarkerang9615
@safarkerang9615 Ай бұрын
Safety of the voters and personnel is the cause.. despite election can be done in 2 to 3 phases and conclude in 15 days .
@mypodcast3604
@mypodcast3604 28 күн бұрын
Nice debate
@kaikashn4466
@kaikashn4466 Ай бұрын
Yes, we worried about EC and their behaviour, because they forgot theirs responsibility just support BJP and Modi Government. Indian public votes and future in trouble because of unfair EC. Thank you
@Raj-gt3fh
@Raj-gt3fh Ай бұрын
SC should not allow elections unless and until election practices are fair and unbiased
@satyajitganguly3135
@satyajitganguly3135 Ай бұрын
Hasn't EC put itself in the dock ??? T N Seshan has set such an example that should be considered as a hallmark of Model Code of Conduct !!
@valerianpereira1259
@valerianpereira1259 Ай бұрын
Why cant they simply follow Legends like Dr. A P J Kalam. Mr. Sheshan. simply be forth right; dedicated; had working peoples person; speak what you can deliver ONLY and show. in reality; Truth 1.4 billion indians need Strong; Tall; Dynamic; solid LEADER with Highest ; Character; Ethics; principles; Scruples;Values; and professionalism
@Imran-ro8ey
@Imran-ro8ey Ай бұрын
Kapil sir EX cec se pucho ke varanasi mein 2019 ke election mein jitna vote hua tha counting time voting se jaiyada vote counting hua hai kaise bholte hain ke EVM sahi hai
@mayanklucknow
@mayanklucknow Ай бұрын
zero trust in ECI
@bindunair9509
@bindunair9509 Ай бұрын
Why can't voting be done online like upi.
@jaibothra2541
@jaibothra2541 Ай бұрын
kapil ji Indians don't have that much interest in politics and follow such issues minutely . That's why such serious issues don't create any waves on the ground .
@jvictorym9682
@jvictorym9682 Ай бұрын
EVM HATAO DESH BACHAO 💪
@balboora3646
@balboora3646 Ай бұрын
The bureaucracy should not be involved in influencing the voting public! And no government machinery and taxpayer money should be allowed to use. There should be severe penalties to the violators.
@srinivasrao369
@srinivasrao369 Ай бұрын
The present EC is a stooge not acting as per the constitution.
@twenty-twenty
@twenty-twenty Ай бұрын
That point about systems being in place - what appeal does a citizen have post facto? How many complaints will the EC take if the voting and counting and declaration has taken place and people’s complaint is only reviewed after? I don’t have a lot of hope from the incumbent EC.
@thippeswamyg7155
@thippeswamyg7155 Ай бұрын
EC CEC SHOULD UNDER SUPREME COURT OF INDIA.
@akashraha
@akashraha Ай бұрын
Yes, because he is an administrator and an officer. While politicians come and go, the administrators are the ones who deliver the laws of the land to the public through their lives. Its a job that they picked, and signed up for. They swore an oath to safeguard the constitutional values enshrined in the constitution. The Preamble, that enunciates 'We the people of India ... ' is also the value they swore to safeguard with utmost integrity. Indeed, this is an important political moment in India's history, wherein the incumbent party's authoritarian ways could starkly change the imagination that is enshrined in 'we the people of India ...' In theory and practice, invariably, executive or civic bodies are the points of contact from the state's perspective towards the citizenry of the country. They are the ones who have been trained in law by state bodies like the DoPT. This is how the executive was imagined in the constitution, a clear attempt to balance different power centres , as an important safeguard to the constitution, and particularly this vague idea of nation-hood we all imagine. The executive has to show responsibility, especially when the government postures as authoritarian. IAS for instance, shouldn't mean 'I am Safe'. The job comes with onus and responsibility.
@sethsurinder
@sethsurinder Ай бұрын
If the suggestions of Kapil about full counting of all VVPAT is done once,then like reservation it will become an ongoing system which no party will dare to stop.
@txlish
@txlish Ай бұрын
Kapil Sibbal ji contested from CC - Chandi Chowk. What do I know -:)
@MohanaKumar-zn9rt
@MohanaKumar-zn9rt Ай бұрын
This CEI should learn from Late CEI Shri Sheshan what is the dury of an EC of India instead of being a sychophant of BJP
@ganesanej9999
@ganesanej9999 Ай бұрын
Why dont the SC judges verify the EVM and Evv pad machine personally. ? Why don't SC judges spend ample of time on verification Instead of studying pile of books .
@gangadharhiremath7306
@gangadharhiremath7306 Ай бұрын
Answer for the head line question: Yes,Yes,Yes.
@safarkerang9615
@safarkerang9615 Ай бұрын
Its the people who are suffering...
@txlish
@txlish Ай бұрын
Culmination of the post with Over Stamt being too optimistic suggesting to hope that:Good will come @ end of the election.
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