What Modern Warfare did Wrong! (Final Review Part 2)

[@phillipwise3259]

Hes so right when he talks about the friend aspect in SBMM. We argue who hosts the lobbies in our group so we can get easier games and its an insult to the host every time we choose them.

[@madzaisa]

He is right. But i think it also important to point out, that Ace pretty much carried his friends. In 6v6 it's huge. I understand "play ranked and stfu" position, but it also makes people who play alone experience even worse because if they are matched against the team without any SBMM they're f-ked. And there is no good way to fic this with so few people in each match, unless you start adding more and more modes separating players from each other. SBMM may actually be the lesser evil. Or we need need at least free modes - FFA, strict ranked, and something similar to current system, maybe a bit less strict.

[@phillipwise3259]

@@madzaisa to an extent I can understand your argument for the solo player. This is meant to be a social game too. Most lobbies have at least a duo in them and trust me we do get extreme SBMM lobbies when we go with a 6 man because we still lose games to teams of full ransoms. I understand the checks and balances but in reality it just makes the game less fun

[@HNcomics]

I don't think the host matters, it just averages out. My friend does worse in lobbies with me and I do better with him. It kinda makes in-between lobbies for the two of us.

[@jongustavsson5874]

@@HNcomics Pretty sure that's the case, But that "in-between" level can be quite extreme. My friendlist have KD:s between 0.6 and 3.5. When the top and bottom players are in the same party the bottom players are doing good if they snag 5 kills and the top is cruising along at 40+. Not really a good time for everyone involved. I would say that and the spawns is the two things that really got on my nerves. (granted the below average would struggle regardless of SBMM, but there would at least be a chance of a lobby more suited to their level )

[@Sweatyhunk]

@@HNcomics facts

[@London.Bridgez]

Im so glad he mentioned the XP token bull sh*t. The fact that when you activate an XP token and time is already counting while not even in game is ridiculous...

[@Predash051]

Why do you care about XP. You get reset anyways. In terms of ColdWar yes. But other than that. XP doesn'z matter in that game

[@Predash051]

@AestheticV9 To me personally, something that doesn't matter isn't really annoying. But Insee what you're talking about. To me it mattered more to the Weapon XP Token. That was a shame.

[@collinmaina2257]

@@Predash051 that’s only regular XP where your point is valid. As a camp grinder, it’s very annoying to see with with double weapon xp or even double battle pass xp to a lesser extent

[@johnward4452]

@@Predash051 it’s not so much that I care about it it’s just double xp and xp tokens have always worked one way. To have it be another way in this game indicates to me that somebody made the change intentionally, to try and fathom why is mildly frustrating is all lol. This is just one of many examples where they have things that work and are generally well received in one title then make changes nobody asked for seemingly for the sake of change.

[@coreyharris906]

Oh wow all of those 30 seconds of dying to camper xp that you are missing out on

[@leonskennedy64]

When Ace is asked about what’s wrong about Modern Warfare “Remember, no mercy”

[@littleblindbean]

No Russian

[@KaizerKlash111]

No I have the high ground !

[@SupermanOG]

Karate kid ?

[@eugeniolejarza9702]

@@SupermanOG I think it was a no Russian reference

[@SPECTRE_Madman]

Hide your mothers obi wans

[@thunderstrikerboy]

I absolutely love the gunplay in this game. The way the guns sound and feel is like no other CoD we've experienced. It's a damn shame this CoD plays out so horribly.

[@AliHussain-ze9dy]

Absolutely. This game had the highest potential for a cod game ever by far. It’s stunning. But i don’t care how good it looks and is aesthetically, if it plays badly, I won’t like it

[@pian-0g445]

I found it hard to player older titles because it feels so good yet the multiplayer just bloody suck

[@John_Stuhlmacher]

For Real bro. Imagine MW2 or Bops2 with this gunplay. That'd be so fucking awesome.

[@Jurcios]

@@AliHussain-ze9dy that’s exactly how I feel about MW.

[@alexj.5207]

@@pian-0g445 ikr I played bo1 and it didn't feel good

[@rarianomajoy57]

Also, talking about bad things in this CoD and showing us Piccadilly gameplay is very fitting.

[@alargeshrubb7964]

We dont talk about piccadilly. And when we do we call it the map with no enjoyment.

[@johnniewalker8410]

Worst. Map. Ever.

[@tturi2]

Piccadilly is a good search and destroy map

[@-OneMoreGhost-]

I like Piccadilly in the campaign only. For multiplayer, it’s like a Karen talking to a manager. ZERO ENJOYMENT. However, I really liked Modern Warfare as a whole. Plz don’t hate me for it. Also I can finally use a very clean and good looking G36C in a new Cod game since MW3 and MWR

[@north7764]

Johnnie Walker Certainly not. Cheshire Park, Broadcast, and Mialstor Tank Factory are all significantly worse. Edit: And I can’t even play Backlot, it’s so bad.

[@Picahielos]

"What MW did right" 15 minutes video "What MW did wrong" 48 minutes video No further questions your honor.

[@malcolmkyeremeh5444]

LMFAO and I brlieve on Twitter he said he had to actually cut it down some

[@nicharred07]

He's just kind of a treyarch fan boi that's why

[@firstnamelastname.7749]

@@nicharred07 i mean yeah he said he prefers treyarch but all his points are valid

[@Damee9]

@@nicharred07 I mean every single point Is valid lol And Ace said multiple times that Infinite Warfare Is his favourite futuristic CoD sooooooo yeah, the Treyarch fanboy doesn't really count.

[@andyw5962]

For all it’s faults MW still shits on BO4 from a great height. Anything would have been an improvement over that snoozefest.

[@triancirc]

The new playlist “what objective?” Its like they are trolling you

[@johm7512]

Shoulda just called it pubs

[@fiend2society]

Wouldn’t surprise me if they were trolling the hardcore players, they trolled us hard with this game all-year.

[@孙林可]

When I was a beginner I was naively doing objectives. Then I soon realized avoiding objectives delibrately can hide information and get more kills.

[@aidenjoe4533]

Lol I think people don't play the objective cause streamers don't. If you watch swagg's video during the cold war beta you can see his average obj in cartel domination is 0.25 (and that includes objective defends/kills)

[@kareemkilany6882]

I will not like that because it is 69

[@brettmarcels2349]

Anyone notice how when he was talking about all the angles he as being shot from everywhere

[@Taino13]

Its called editing 😂😂😂

[@aleski6506]

Heard of a voiceover?

[@somerandomnoob6502]

47 minutes.... Ace is about to show no mercy

[@Bleak5170]

47 minutes of negativity about my least favourite CoD of all time, (from a game play perspective). I love it!

[@somerandomnoob6502]

@@Bleak5170 hope your stacked with popcorn

[@ਗਰੇਵਾਲ-ਧ3ਫ]

warmed my heart

[@deshaunhairston5652]

I'm at work rn so no popcorn for me :( but seeing this vid being 47 minutes makes my heart warm

[@meliodas5585]

Why do you guys hate it so much?

[@PranjalDhungana]

Me: Last video was about 18 minutes. The next one will probably be about the same. Ace: .............

[@deshaunhairston5652]

I guessed it would be an hour bc how garbage this game is but I thought I was reaching but I was damn near correct

[@knrz2562]

No he said it would be longer and he ain't holding back

[@Murilo-M-Santos]

@@deshaunhairston5652 lol i thought the same

[@jakeheerwagen8007]

I think it would be a hold my beer moment

[@janujano2026]

15 actualy

[@MrD4nj]

Developers state they have added safe spaces for “lesser skilled players” in a game they introduced the strictest SBMM 👏👏. Genius

[@adambond8542]

"My genius almost concerns me"

[@aidenjoe4533]

Yeah so the lesser skilled will battle lesser skilled thus making them feeling better

[@MrD4nj]

@@aidenjoe4533 yeah so what’s the point in creating game designs that protect them from more skilled players if they aren’t going to be playing against them?

[@Kamykkk100]

@@MrD4nj because after some time, this "lesser" skilled player will be dumped for a match or two with higher skilled players thus game design gives him some chance against some sweaty ass mp5 cunts.

[@MrD4nj]

@@Kamykkk100 well if he is being put into a game with these people he must be getting to their level. Otherwise their SBMM is poorly designed if it is putting people against people of a much higher skill. Kinda defeats the point in the whole “skill” based match making system. Either way poorly designed

[@cas9564]

Honestly, the best way I can sum up MW 2019's MP experience is that you're either stomping the enemy or the enemy is stomping you. And when you get stomped, it feels like utter bullshit.

[@mothwizard4307]

The lobbies make zero sense. I hope a new FPS comes out to play soon that's more consistent.

[@AnonEMus-cp2mn]

Domination or TDM in a nutshell. All the systems intended to benefit low players are exploited by tryhards, either camped in corners or at worst in power positions. If you make a single error pushing an objective it feels like you could loose the entire match. The enemy can push up to cut off avenues of entry, lock down a point, or get that much closer to a killstreak that would prevent a gain the moment your team gets the upper hand. Compound that with bad spawn camping and your getting killed over and over before you can so much as figure out where the enemy is in general, let alone adapt. I love coordinating with friends, I love the gunplay, the movement, and especially routing enemies that are using cheap tactics; but to play this game I need to take it less seriously or push harder and try to play to the best of my ability anyways.

[@named3458]

I went against a hacker cuz I turned on crossplay lol. I spawned in the same spot 3 times infron of a hacker using a 1 shot an-94 in core, then changed to a different spawn for the rest of the magma before I rage quit to some hog using a fennec and a shield just sitting in a corner

[@realmsattire2465]

That summary feels like it applies to every thing that has a gun physics.

[@FraserSouris]

That's every COD. Because COD isn't designed to be a balanced game, it's meant to be a power fantasy. And there's pushback whenever COD does try to even the experience with SBMM because people want to be able to have that power fantasy

[@danielendres1099]

“Everything outside of gameplay was good” That’s the most brutal roast I’ve heard for a game in a while 😂

[@thatdudeskillet847]

Yeah that's crazy lol 😆

[@PlaytimeOver31]

He's right though lol

[@markarbanasin4]

To be fair though there are a couple things that make up gameplay. Mechanically the game is excellent and the atmosphere is also excellent. To me, those are gameplay supporting items and they were well reviewed. However, and he's right, tons of design choices were made that directly impact the actual game flow in motion for multiplayer and those were largely steps back (and why I primarily played Ground War where some of it regarding map control and spawns were better defined). What he's really complaining about is actually more like gameflow and multiplayer balancing which then do lead to the play itself.

[@danielendres1099]

@@markarbanasin4 so you agree...?

[@markarbanasin4]

@@danielendres1099 Eh, to an extent. I was actually one of the guys that kind of stopped following the series and I did like it as a way to come back in as a casual gamer. With that said, I basically only liked Ground Wars due to much of what Ace is saying. It's a mixed bag. I think the radar stuff + foot steps were a couple of the more obnoxious items as that really does lead to active strategies being hampered. But I did appreciate ground wars helping nullify some of the spawn issues and create a game type that can foster solid map control. And as far as I am aware Ground Wars didn't implement SBMM either so side-stepped that major pitfall.

[@ritchiejoseph]

Saw that 47 min time and thought "Oh Boy, this is gonna be wild!!"

[@barrytownsend7104]

right 😂😂😂

[@Carbon-ation]

Yooooo I thought the same thing IMMEDIATELY

[@deshaunhairston5652]

Oh man I'm happy to see that this game is so bad I thought it'll be an hour long

[@ramoncastro1362]

Straight up!!! First thing I looked at.. He double the time for what he enjoyed.. Ouch..

[@KaizerKlash111]

Same

[@DerekTweetz]

no red dots on mini map, and when u actually earn a uav every person has ghosts, the mini map in this game was a complete waste of time

[@daviddr115111]

Fog of war is such a close second though

[@the_appointed1142]

Well, the game was never meant to have a mini map in the first place

[@joshmaag2457]

Yup I didn’t even run uav in this game. Cold War is such a breath of fresh air for the og cod players. Not saying that game doesn’t have its issues but it’s a great base.

[@daviddr115111]

Cold war feels like the black ops 3 game we should've gotten in the first place

[@LMSxReZzoRHD]

Use the compass?

[@QwertyBoredom122]

Does anyone remember the days when we had the "Boot Camp" playlist, you know the one that you could only play in until you ranked up high enough to unlock create a class, the one thats entire purpose WAS to protect new players from getting destroyed by much higher skill player (and just regular skilled players with more weapon/attachment unlocks).

[@marklee1194]

Yep! The same goes with many other online games back in the good old days of the late 2000's and early 2010's. I had so many nostalgic memories of those games.

[@jonathonvillajin9488]

I know I have a high SBMM lobby when they're all lvl 155. wear CDL jerseys, slip n slide bunny hop with MP5's/ shotties, and have TTV/ KZbin in their name with their 4-6mans.

[@logiic8835]

@@jonathonvillajin9488 what is CDL

[@logiic8835]

@Username Dylan thx

[@FPSPixelist]

Yup.

[@WorkInProgressX]

Us: Iw please fix this Iw: best i can do is an operator bundle

[@waseemparker5622]

😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

[@ZZ-hb1ho]

Us: please fix this game IW: anime girl skin, take it or leave it.

[@jamie8037]

You know he hates a game when the positive review is 18 mins long and the negative review is 40+ mins long

[@littleblindbean]

I don’t think he hates the game, it takes a lot to hate a game. I think he’s just more disappointed in Infinity Ward.

[@louietae9932]

@@littleblindbean nah he legit hates it. He only continued to play it because it’s literally his job

[@tatri292]

To be fair, his negative reviews are usually quite a bit longer than the positive ones since there's opportunity to suggest how to improve those areas as opposed to just listing what you liked.

[@Incognigro.]

My thoughts (every point he made): 2:20 (Footsteps) - I agree and I think most do too, it’s insane how ridiculously loud footstep audio is in this game. A problem with this is there’s no balance. If Dead Silence is not going to be a permanent perk, then footsteps need to be quieter, otherwise vice versa. I understand that if it was a perk it could just be a crutch perk, but as it stands, DS is a crutch field upgrade. Footsteps can be heard from eons away and as he mentioned, it encourages “slower play” 6:00 (Min-Map) - The mini-map is as he stated, a little annoying but I could live with it. I prefer the old one but its not game breaking 9:43 & 12:32 (Maps & Spawns)- I feel like the map designs and spawns go hand in hand. I don’t understand how the game is released, the players hate most of the maps, you make Shoothouse, everyone loves it, and then you never really make a map similar to it again. Instead you continue to make Maps designed like the hated ones. Also, the spawns are so ridiculously awful. Everyone talks about how Shipment is supposed to be chaos but the spawns on Shipment were not this bad in previous iterations. It’s not just shipment either, Vacant, Shoothouse, Gun Runner, all of these Maos I’ve spawned directly in front, behind, or beside an enemy countless times, and when this happened, there plenty of other places safer to spawn me. 18:18 - Why don’t kill streaks loop? He mentioned it perfectly as well as the counter argument, but it just doesn’t make sense. Also I agree that we should be able to pick point streaks or kill streaks 22:36 (Mounting) - Having a bunch of different, unique challenges for the camos, *good*. Having a bunch of tedious annoying challenges that force the players to camp *bad*. I don’t want to spend 3/4ths of my entire day playing the game crouch mounting from a far distance, aiming for the head shortly after reloading. I want to play the game, let me play 25:05 (Disbanding Lobbies) - We all know this is because of SBMM (as most of the other things are) but man they really don’t want us to have fun, compete, or have a good connection. 27:30 (You know what it is) - Skill. Based. Matchmaking. The most infamous one on the list. I think it’s a nuisance and I agree that strict SBMM overall hurts more than helps. For some it can make it hard for them to tell if they’re really improving or not because the game is always adjusting and manipulating who they play. For others, I think it’s a wake up call and a hard pill to swallow. When I’m playing I can tell when the competition begins to ramp up. Their gameplay improves, as well as their movements, thought process, and more. However, I still manage to stay at the top either first overall or second. It’s highly possible I’m being carried by SBMM harder than I think I am but I hear many talk about how they have great games and then struggle to get 5 kills for the next five. I think they’re either being dramatic, or they simply aren’t as good as they think they are. Overall, strict SBMM is annoying and for us (who truly mean it when they say they don’t want to pubstomp) it ruins casual play. Also with this as he mentioned: THE VARIETY OH MY LORD. Honestly this alone killed a lot of the fun for me more than just about anything else. MP5 MP5 MP5, ooh a Scar, MP5 MP5, MP7. I don’t understand how a gun can be so blatantly dominant over all other guns and the devs still think its perfectly fine. A friend of mine says he only uses that gun because what’s the point of using other guns, they don’t compete, proving my point. My friends and I are playing against a team, they’re all using the MP5. I’m using the M13 can’t touch them, were getting smacked. I usually refuse to stoop that low but I switch to the MP5. It legitimately feels like I was playing the campaign on Realism, got mad and set it to Recruit, gunfights are instantly Childs play, thats ridiculous, we come back and win by a substantial amount. As a Battlefield fan, I feel spoiled and cheated. Spoiled because BF4 has like 20 different guns for each category it’s insane how many different guns you see in game. In MW I feel cheated because they have so many guns but only like 4-5 (1) are viable. 38:31 (File Size) - My friends and I are convinced this is a tactic to force everyone to delete all their other games and only play this one, absolutely no reason it should take this much space. Optimization is horrendous. Speaking of, I’m sick and tired of the 10-20 second stutters when I am in the main menu trying to create a class and edit load outs, check my barracks, etc. 38:47 (Seasonal Leveling) - Not going to lie, I don’t care too much about this one, I stopped prestiging in COD a while ago. I understand others like the leveling up but I don’t see the point in resetting your stats and locking everything back up just to unlock it again. To me it feels like pointless, unnecessary grinding. But to each is own I respect your decisions. 39:43 (XP Tokens) - Stupid, this should never have been like this. Count in-game time only. 40:17 & 40:36 Communication & Patch Notes) - Every time new patch notes came out, “eh I’ll wait a couple of day, Ace will give us the *actual* patch notes soon enough” 43:32 (Crossplay) - I’m pretty sure on Xbox you can turn off cross play for multiplayer. Maybe it wasn’t originally in but I remember seeing it last time I played 44:09 (Cheating) - I’ve been really lucky to not run into more than 1 cheater but I know it’s been rampant. As Ace said, it’s ridiculous how big of a company Activision is but they struggled for so long dealing with cheaters. I’m know programmer or what not so I understand it may be more difficult than you’d think, but still 44:51 (Is this COD/Wrap Up) - I’ve said it many times and so has my friends, but this is the first game where I we can destroy the other team, I lead the lobby in most kills least deaths, most score, most captures, and still not have any fun. Overall it’s annoying because we know that the devs intentions when making this game was to focus solely on newer, lesser skilled players, but overall it’s ridiculous when you take a step back and see just how much stuff is pitted against us. Extremely loud footstep with no DS perk. Killstreaks don’t loop so if you can stay alive to do that it doesn’t matter. Killstreaks instead of point streaks to discourage objective play. Safe spaces and doors to give campers even more of an advantage. Ghost being active all the time to throw oil into the fire. SBMM to try and put the competitive players in a box. Disbanding lobbies to readjust SBMM. I understand you want to bring in newer players but it feels like you’re trying to push the veteran players out completely. And so many people have made the statement but thats because its so scarily true: the amount of potential this game had was *INSANE*. The gunsmith, the graphics, the sound design, the animations, all of this was *AMAZING*. But it was all ruined by the game design and decisions. I had some fun times and good moments here but overall, I just don’t know. Thank you for listening to my rant (even if you didn’t lol it’s cool), have a great day!

[@wafflies8790]

You literally wrote a 2 page-ish essay for this crappy game

[@noonieFonz]

Preach!

[@p4ascal123]

I just wanna say to the anticheqt thing. It's very hard to do it and don't be invasive. And the cheat developer are always ahead. It takes them hours/days to update it and u need to update the game to change the addresses they use (there would be riots if they did that).

[@Incognigro.]

@@p4ascal123 yea, I think it’s still crazy but this is why I said I’m not a programmer so I honestly don’t have an experience or know how hard it is to combat. I assume it’s quite difficult, it’s simply that as big a company Activision is, they have the resources to attempt to combat it. The question then becomes are they?

[@nearby222]

Eon is a measure of time not distance. I just wanted to say that.

[@captainkill21]

You’ll know you made it to the higher skilled lobbies when everyone is slide canceling around the map and jumping up and down like they’re on meth whenever you get into a gun fight. They’ll also only be using meta weapons Similar to the game play you see above 😂

[@TheRandom_Emu]

I always see them use smgs like the Aug, Kilo, and MP5

[@ItsaMeJeff]

@@TheRandom_Emu smgs like the kilo? and what high skill player uses the Aug or kilo. M4 and mp5 have been from day 1 the two best weapons.

[@danielbendl7119]

@@ItsaMeJeff kilo is one of the best guns in the game although the gun balance is so bad in this game there is a new meta every week

[@ItsaMeJeff]

@@danielbendl7119 Sure kilo is one of the better weapons, but if a skilled player is using an m4 he wins every gunfight at all ranges. And my initial point was that the kilo isn't an smg

[@danielbendl7119]

Yea I agree the kilo is definitely not an smg. Is the m4 usually used in pro play?

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

And they said Canadians can't get mad, show them this video!

[@Deathmare235]

Tbf it’s mw

[@nickhall7577]

Or the smith plays 5 worst maps.

[@deshaunhairston5652]

Lol Canadians can be hot heads

[@Nahnigga]

Imagine if he was black or Mexican

[@nikoschaitas1378]

He isn't mad, he is disappointed.

[@mattg4443]

The biggest SBMM thing for me is the playing with friends thing. I'm a considerably higher K/D than my friends and whenever we play together, they just get destroyed while I barely keep my head above water. They don't play multiplayer with me anymore. We only play Warzone together now but they still say it is so much harder when I'm there but at least we are all alive for 10 minutes before they all get wiped out by sweats. I hate it.

[@ALIENjoy]

You should try letting your lower KD friends host. My wife with a 0.7KD always hosts for me and our friends (1.2, 1.3, 1.7) and we pretty consistently get good lobbies. Not even stomp lobbies, we don’t even think about SBMM when we play honestly. Maybe we’re lucky.

[@enrique7343]

i still remember the day my friends said they weren’t going to play w me bc it was more fun to play by themselves this game ruined the fun i used to get in cod

[@CousinBellic]

Ace also forgot about connection in high SBMM lobbies because the search expands waaaay beyond your area. Shot first die first or hitmarkers are your friends if you have good internet.

[@theempowerer5718]

I’m in your boat man

[@aidenjoe4533]

@Kelvin Marroquin 1.54 is very good in this game.Maybe average in other cods but in MW, it is very good

[@Tonycommisso14]

When you were talking about disbanding lobbies I got goosebumps couldn’t agree more.

[@fpsfreak8295]

I miss the days where everyone would be talking smack, fighting against each other for hours on end in different matches and getting a rivalry going. Getting a new lobby every match in MW was really off-putting for me.

[@deshaunhairston5652]

@@fpsfreak8295 it's not even about that it's why take it away in the first place? like seriously they took away map voting for what? Added safe spaces for what? Disbanded lobbies for what? Made the mini map different for what? Took away scorestreaks for what? Made the footsteps loud as shit for what? I can go on

[@NEONProductionsyt]

@@deshaunhairston5652 All of it is to step down and help players who don't know how to hold a controller, to help those who can't win in their own and rely on crutches to win fights, which are probably the same players in Modern Warfare 2 that went 2 to 30 every match. Modern Warfare 2019 removed season passes and supply drops that made them a boat load of money, replacing it with cosmetic only MTX, and even made Warzone free. The catch to that was trying to get as many brain dead newbie players as possible to inflate the player count.

[@hustler666100]

nearly all my SnD friends are from random SnD lobbies from bo2 as my friends just like tdm kcon and dom. After joking round with people playing with them and against them for 4-5 games we'd add each other. MW19 just got toxic ppl mostly with one funny person every now and then and they'd be gone after 1 game

[@bicboi1930]

Relax lol

[@FunJunkiesGaming]

It's so depressing knowing how good this game could have been.

[@MitsurugiR]

Still better than BOCW xD

[@KotaWebb]

Gunfight saved the game for me, it was an amazing mode

[@nickdimitre]

@@MitsurugiR disagree, gameplay feels so much more fluid and I’ve just had a lot more fun so far

[@tahmidahmed6524]

@@nickdimitre nope feels way to too arcadey like a typical fps game personally not my favourite but the zombies i genuinely like

[@amirabans1127]

@@tahmidahmed6524 if its too acradey for you then u never liked cod in the first place

[@senit2374]

Great video Ace, I think I agree with all you said in this video. One thing I think you’re missing, and maybe it’s because you don’t see it as a problem, that is the attachment balance. There are so many useless attachments in this game and you almost always see people running the longer barrels, because the downside to these are so small compared to the upside. I think the devs have done a terrible job balancing these things out. And if we take Warzone, it’s even worse. The monolithic supresser is just a part on every class setup you see here on KZbin combined with one of the longer barrels.

[@BurningPankake]

The most annoying thing to me about the sbmm algorithm is that it is all activision, meaning we are gonna see the same thing in cold war and the next COD, really unfortunate

[@lawsonh745]

It’s the new supply drops. I would honestly rather keep that mtx system than have sbmm

[@ILIKKA]

Hope treyarch realizes to make rank system or cod is sadly over for me...

[@elvistwatty]

Sbmm been around forever. Why now people upset over it....silly

[@BurningPankake]

@@elvistwatty the algorithm clearly changed recently and it's bad

[@alexanderhamilton0]

@@elvistwatty Did you even watch the video?

[@iAMxVV]

The loud footsteps and lack of a reliable dead silence was game breaking. It rewarded bad play and punished anyone who wanted to move around the map.

[@anoobisgod202]

The fact they can make ghost a crutch perk but not dead silence and they could’ve just brought awareness back to counter dead silence smh

[@campersruincod6134]

@@anoobisgod202 Awareness should never come back.

[@29blazehead]

Footsteps wernt really louder than earlier cods. In COD4 you could hear someone across the map and know exactly what building and what floor based on the material sound. The main problem with footsteps is their inconsistency, echo, and how loud they were when crouching.

[@mikekryaz956]

@@29blazehead finnaly a good opinion...

[@worzeldanier9012]

So dead silence is skill less because it is a free kill

[@winlover37]

Best way to boil down the multiplayer: There's never any room to warm up, you have to be on your game or you're gonna have a bad time.

[@H-L..]

Not really, sit in a corner with a claymore and a shotgun and you’ll be fine, wouldn’t exactly call that skill

[@fardboi9781]

Eh, I mean the game rewards moving as little as possible heavily. Plus you're at the mercy of sbmm.

[@OldPanther]

@@fardboi9781 So people want to beat up on noobs to feel powerful is what I'm getting from all the complaints of SBMM

[@rqb6731]

@@OldPanther if when you get better the ppl u ply against also get better than theirs no reason to get better because u won't be better than the ppl u ply against

[@OldPanther]

@@rqb6731 So you want to improve while the people around you stay static.

[@shayanbalaee5429]

11:52 perfectly demonstrates the "too many angles" problem exactly when he was talking about it. Don't know if it was intentional or not but nice!

[@BIackPhillip]

"Not everybody likes the run and gun playstyle." -Joe Cecot

[@hjthere3925]

So let's destroy it!!!

[@Sxuthexst]

meanwhile the base of mp cod is run and gun lmao when is he getting fired?

[@hjthere3925]

@@Sxuthexst probably will get promoted to lead positions at Activision, if you remember how ww2 went at the beginning. The reason Aaron halon took over was because Condrey got an executive position at acti because ww2 also sold really well

[@flaminG-Ghost]

But COD players................. DO!

[@brentbennett5401]

I'm not a run and gun to say but sitting in one building is boring. I play as a support and cover my team with a lmg

[@thePedrovisky]

From a guy who play this game basically everyday since launch: I consider myself an above average or good-not-great player. Basically I played CoD 4 until BO2 and then returned to the series with this CoD. Back in my BO2 days, I always had fun in the competitive matches. The ones where the enemy team really fight back. In this game it’s like I’m the boot stomping or I’m getting stomped. This isn’t fun. It’s basically unplayable in the 6x6, and I only have fun when I’m playing the same 5 maps over and over, since every other map is trash. After all, I really liked the game for the reasons Ace put out in the good things video, but the fun factor, that always made me wanna play the game, it wasn’t there. It was like Jev said “I play this game course I hate myself”. If they put the SBMM in a ranked mode, and brought back the old matchmaking and lobbies, it would make the game 500% better.

[@GodSpeed1105]

I know I have a high SBMM lobby when they're all lvl 155. wear CDL jerseys, slip n slide bunny hop with MP5's/ shotties, and have TTV/ KZbin in their name with their 4-6mans.

[@OGTribeq]

Yeah but then you get to smack them while they’re streaming to their friends so that’s nice

[@danieljimenezm.7097]

And have Damascus camo on all guns

[@Mcsweating]

this is even funnier because the mp5/shotties in the sweat lobbies are just as real in cold war SBMM is alive and well and its super obvious

[@hrafn6588]

@@Mcsweating It's not even been two weeks yet and yet these Esports sweat lords with their 9 Bang energies and gamer gloves jumping around every corner or head glitching with an AUG are just completely ruining this game

[@Mcsweating]

@@hrafn6588 couldnt agree more I love the guns but there’s just alot that doesnt work well or probably as intended Cant wait to see what balancing they do. Modern warfare was in the same hole with the m4 and the mp5 for the first 3 months of the release. It’s probably gonna be small nerfs until they feel its okay 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@zachwharton11]

31:00 You know the game had some problems when the best pro league teams and players were willing to take fines just to shit on the game design publicly.

[@Spryze]

They even fined scump and didn't give him a creator code until very later when people already had it

[@richieh7476]

@@Spryze Dashy also benched himself, with one of the reasons being the shit game. I think karma also retired because of the game?=

[@Spryze]

@@richieh7476 yeah, the game that dropped many pros

[@theredguy8746]

The way I'd describe this game is that it completely fists us more skilled players in the arse, while it embraces less skilled/new players like a toddler does with their teddy bear.

[@deshaunhairston5652]

But git gud remember? even the biggest sweats cod has to offer can't stand mw riddle me that

[@victorb7202]

The maps in this game where absolutely garbage, picadilly has got to be the worst map of all time

[@BihgggggMiikee]

picadilly snd not bad though

[@gabrield.5709]

@@BihgggggMiikee yeah but picadilly respawn is garbo

[@jjwrighty0557]

Don't forget superstore or the palace map, basically to me any map that isn't shipment, shoothouse, or rust sucks, sure shipment has shitty spawns, rust brings back memories of mw2, and shoothouse for a non remade map was really the only new map made i like

[@paulshi5974]

@@jjwrighty0557 Rust is the best IMO. After that comes Euphrates Bridge (can't find it anymore), Vacant, and then Shipment. Then Hardhat, Khandor Hideout and Hackney Yard are semi-decent. All the others are nerve wracking

[@jjwrighty0557]

@@paulshi5974 hardhat, khandor hideout, and hackney yard are alright, the rest are campers paradise, such as Piccadilly, atlas superstore, both palace maps, and basically anything else thats not shipment, shoothouse, hackney yard, rust, hardhat and khandor hideout, they are the only maps i enjoy

[@minues]

As an aggressive player with mediocre gun skills, I heavily rely on map awareness, spawn prediction and that big picture stuff. MW took all of that away from me and just left me wondering which will be the window I'd be shot from next. I Did not enjoy the game much, although it was a well crafted game. Just not for me.

[@mgmoonie1073]

Exactly!!!

[@finalcartoon1044]

couldnt agree more

[@TheMpamMpam]

Great comment that sums up what MW did to the runners...

[@Blunterx420]

Modern Warfare is that girlfriend who is extremely beautiful but performs horribly in bed. Sucks too cause if they would've had ALL these things that could've made the game great it could've been one of the best Call Of Duty games to date but was severely mishandled and wasn't lived up to its potential.

[@ricardolarios2518]

If you rely on spawn prediction you're just running around like a headless chicken pre aiming corners. You must like treyarch games

[@Brixxmin1429]

holy shit, this video is perfect. I couldn’t say it better myself

[@Fantastic_Mr_Fox]

It almost seems like they were TRYING to encourage camping and make the game easier for total noobs? No! They were OBVIOUSLY DOING IT ON PURPOSE LOL!

[@bobbobthomson]

Maybe they made multiplayer soooo bad deliberately to take players away from multiplayer to play their new game mode warzone

[@ILIKKA]

@@bobbobthomson well without warzone this would be worst cod ever. And what comes to warzone it doesn’t feel anything like cod and also encourage camping.

[@TheMrProboscis]

@@bobbobthomson no lmao this makes no sense

[@thatcherbuck]

I think that there is a reason behind it though. If you couldn't tell, the franchise was dying before MW19. The franchise was in total decay and the player-base was getting smaller. By making a new game that encourages new people substantially, they are hoping to ease a new crowd of people in. I am sure they were aware that they were alienating a specific demographic but I think it was a loss they determined was necessary and they did it because they are hoping that the new players they brought in will be able to have a better time as we move back towards the old style COD (BOCW).

[@bobbobthomson]

@@thatcherbuck I think the reason cod is dieing is because the designers keep trying new things in the game not for the games benefit but in their own interests in winning awards for themselves , we the players want boots on the ground now we have jump shot , drop shot , ass sliding and bunny hopping , imo it does not make the game any more fun its just annoying . There is more advanced movement now than when we had the stupid jet packs . Warzone is not cod but a stand alone game and should be sold seperately which i believe will happen as well as jet packs in warzone , not to improve the game but only their attempt to win awards for themselves , but get ready for the microtransactions in cw new warzone when it arrives in december .

[@emanuelmontalvo9265]

Hearing Ace dissect every single thing that's wrong with this game was like music to my ears lol😂

[@ramses3488]

Totally agree

[@TecraX2]

"Enemies at the Cargo Containers" as a callout on Shipment, says everything that needs to be said about IncompeTENT Ward!

[@wesleygarcia8363]

EXACTLY

[@XXX3134L]

🤦🏾‍♂️

[@seppy1287]

What else they gonna call out bro?

[@julienmaik9986]

Man, I usually never comment on your channel, even in KZbin generally. You are so damn right on every aspect of your opinions to me, specially when you mentioned this SBMM while playing with friends. My friends don't want to play with me cause they got smashed in warzone and I got so frustrated when i do a super difficult 3 kills of a squad, I die, and the rest of my 3 friends get killed by a super high lvl player so we lose. Also to say you forgot to mention that hacker issue in the high lvl lobies where hackers are very smart and almost not detectable. There is almost 1/2 of games where i encounter hackers who, when I die and I watch the killcam, have 0 recoil only HS and track my face like robot even if I'm jumping. Also Wallhacks where people shoot you through walls even they cannot know you are there. That makes me doubt of everyone then in these lobbies. Anyway. Thanks for your awesome content always man. You are doing and incredible work and have very good opinions with solid arguments.

[@abualasif]

well said mate

[@Sur5mePC]

You really hit the nail on the head with this one. I truly feel like this game was created with the idea to vastly increase the playerbase, while also monitizing maximally which the SBMM is for.

[@sjKoy]

The gameplay and map design just didn’t work for 6v6. However, when I switched to solely 10v10, I enjoyed the game so much more. 10v10 felt more like a traditional fast-paced COD game. I will say that Warzone has been a blast and really rejuvenated this game. Perhaps, the gameplay design was always intended for Warzone?

[@DRandR1productionz]

I think they just got lucky with warzone honestly, the reasons warzone is so popular in my opinion is the fact you can create your own load out in comparison to other games where you have to pick up loot from the floor and the fact that warzone is so much faster paced than other BR games on the market AND that the game is free, I know a lot of friends who play warzone who said they probably wouldnt have even given it a look had it been £30-£40

[@11202]

@@DRandR1productionz Warzone, fast paced, is not a sentence I've ever contemplated thinking

[@dillonc7955]

The playlists were simply a mess. Modes like TDM allow 10v10 maps like Grazna Raid and Arklov Peak to be played as 6v6, which almost always lead to slow paced, time limit games. On the other hand, maps like Gun Runner in 10v10 were way too chaotic.

[@campersruincod6134]

@@11202 fast paced compared to some other BR games like PUBG.

[@DRandR1productionz]

@@11202 its not fast paced but in comparison to other games it is very fast paced, I'm talking about TRIO's and QUAD's, solo's is awful and honestly doesn't feel like the game was made for solo's considering how slow the gas moves

[@viis]

I really really really wish I could enjoy playing this game. I'd hope on with a great attitude, ready to just have fun and get some funny clips. After every single session though, I'd leave furious at the game. Every time. There are just way too many extremely frustrating aspects of this game for me to keep playing it. I haven't touched it in months at this point.

[@fleshanbones1550]

Yeah, I still remember, one of the last games I played before I deleted it 10 months ago. It was right when shoothouse 24/7 came out and I was playing the shit out of it. I went 70-10, I was rushing, getting killsrteaks, playing the objective, and generally having a good time. The next game, I played on the sane map, with the same gun, with the same playstyle and went 5-20. That was when I was finally done. I was not going to play a game that punished me for going well

[@DRandR1productionz]

exactly I really wanted to enjoy this game, this is the first COD game where getting a kill actually felt somewhat rewarding I dont know what it was maybe it was the sound or how the guns felt but I loved the gunplay in this game (hated the time to kill) but it felt good to get multiple kills but this game was just far too frustrating it felt like no matter what I did it didnt matter no matter how much better I got it didnt matter. I'm an above average player hovering around 2-3KD I dont sweat at all I love using random classes im just naturally decent at call of duty games I used to buy COD because it was casual I could put on a playlist or a podcast and just play on auto pilot and do relatively well I loved coming back from the gym at like 10pm hoping on for a handful of games and going to bed I cant do that anymore I have to play at 110% just to have a CHANCE at doing well in this game, I cant listen to music I have to have my headset on sound wh*ring the entire game and if I dare to get on when im a bit tired or not in the mood to sweat I can barely break even

[@catalyst1641]

@@fleshanbones1550 exactly, it punishes people for doing well. It like getting portions your money taken from taxes after hours of work.

[@CaptHC]

Exactly. It's frustrating man. I wanna love the game but it's making it hard for me and my friends. After school or work I just wanna play a couple of matches but I end up leaving being furious and cursing. If only they removed or toned down the SBMM the game would be more fun for everyone.

[@Riley_27]

I simply think this is the best feeling call of duty game I've ever played in terms of controlling your character. Everything was so fluid and natural feeling. Everything looked amazing and for the first time ever quick scoping felt doable for me personally. Just all the other stuff made it suck.

[@nicholasl293]

The SBMM made the game borderline unplayable... Made the game a constant grind

[@prod.jusskii5788]

the sbmm was so strong, i could play one game somewhat well and now i’m in a level 155 lobby with “pro players” when i’m level 57. this was worse than bo4 imo, and i wish they hadn’t done this to the modern warfare name.

[@Kai-ps8lu]

I expected this to be a whole hour

[@deshaunhairston5652]

Bruh I'm done, 47 minutes!! These MW punks be praising this game like it's the best hahaha

[@77seven77]

😂

[@Kai-ps8lu]

@@deshaunhairston5652 one of the worst cod games I've ever played idk why people are hating on cold war just because it's a down grade I don't even care if it is I just want normal cod back

[@deshaunhairston5652]

@@Kai-ps8lu facts but the MW suckers don't see it that way, that's why listening to them is a comedy show they're clowns

[@somerandomnoob6502]

47 minutes is close. Damn i know he clearly doesn't like the game, but 47 minutes...

[@Stuckin92]

“..Its just chaos all the time, and that’s how their life is when they play Call of Duty.” Wow thanks for the personal attack dude.

[@tomchi3345]

Fact is, our lives are Chaos compare to his. We have to work with a damn boss and stupid customers while he just need to play the game to make money LOL

[@grimlurker2244]

@@tomchi3345 that's our society

[@elderscrollsmoddingtech7252]

@@tomchi3345 working for the KZbin algorithm is the definition of chaos

[@simpforak5072]

Me: *sees long section titled: 'skill-based matchmaking'* Also Me: "This is where the fun begins!"

[@matthewmccauley1612]

Couldnt stress anymore on how perfect this video is. I agree literally 100% and I REALLY hope Treyarch watches this whole video.

[@Deathmare235]

Treyarch won’t do it

[@RushStriker9]

Prefer to be just as upset if not more because this game was great, as a consumer you have no clue what u want in the game and will always guaranteed be hypocrites about elements of it.

[@deshaunhairston5652]

This game was more of a battlefield game than BF5 what a joke mw was

[@P3chcic]

Honestly, I started playing CoD this year and can't really say, that game is bad in any way, since I haven't expirienced any other...

[@worldz5511]

Trust me, it was much better in the golden days

[@P3chcic]

@@worldz5511 wish I could expirienced that...

[@alec4025]

They did everything right, it's just held back so much by map design.... I really want to like this game but every time I go on quick play it's PICCADILLY...

[@JP-ut6gd]

@@alec4025 didn't you see the video? EVERYTHING about this game Is trash

[@thesovietonion4671]

@@JP-ut6gd better than Cold War, game looks 5 years old

[@SvenBout]

Remember the good old days. Where you said “one more game” to your friends when playing cod

[@dillonc7955]

Occasionally my friends would leave the party randomly. Whenever I messaged them asking why they left, they tell me that I'm too good and ruin the matches. From what they say, the strict SBMM puts me in lobbies that are barely tolerable for them.

[@Who_am_I_to_judge1]

Yea back when safe spaces were only on playgrounds

[@ਗਰੇਵਾਲ-ਧ3ਫ]

@@dwurgy. ur getting ez lobbies then

[@SvenBout]

@Hila 8o2 Gaming thank you i guess😂

[@paulregener7016]

@@dillonc7955 have them host the lobbies

[@333PatA333]

"They strayed too far away from what Call of Duty is" that about sums it all up

[@danskins2722]

The feel of Modern Warfare ‘s Multiplayer experience leads me to believe the developers/decision makers who green-lit all these protections believe that “tenth place Timmy” deserves a participation trophy...aaand that’s just not what CoD is about nor has it ever been about that. MP is a chore/obligation to play. 😐

[@PhD_Flopper]

9 straight minutes of talking about sbmm... This vid is going to be great

[@jacob818tanner]

every thing he said about the subject was very valid and i hope the devs are listening

[@thatguy5054]

@@jacob818tanner true

[@strayednine8859]

Dude's making a 47 minute video talking about bad aspects of MW and this guy only watch some minutes of the vid

[@balls8229]

Nice pfp

[@MidnightMan04]

I think that the good is: Gunsmith No more lootboxes Shoot house Multiple tabs full of skins to grind Variations of sights Different varients of ammo for guns But the game's bad spots are: All of the gameplay except basic shooting Maps are a campfest *F O O T S T E P S* Seasonal ranks Mounting promoting camping No red dots on minimap when no UAV or Radar SBMM being atrocious (Just add comp. mode FFS)

[@heshtheflasher]

Its like I think this is good one paragraph then what I don’t like an entire book

[@worldz5511]

I think that all of the new (or modern warfareized) features such as mounting, doors, footsteps, ect...work really well in non-respawn modes like SND...but in basic multiplayer 🤮

[@josephcalebaquinorivera6629]

@@silerl8187 that is actually a really smart idea.

[@zffrailgun1630]

I don't know if this is included in your "gameplay" part, but the balancing (guns, perks etc.) is also garbage. In fact, I'd say with confidence that it is the worst CoD has ever seen.

[@heshtheflasher]

@@thunderslug1066 yeah shoot house is you bad but if when u say gun mechanics you are saying gunplay ttk etc… then I disagree because u have to shoot first bc it feels like they have tiny snipers that are full auto

[@roohkanga9286]

I love this game but can not disagree with any of your points.

[@lucky_-1y]

70% of the problems didn't needed to exist at all, like the campy map design, loud footsteps audio, fast TTK and Ghost always on just by adding the strict SBMM, the strict SBMM by it's own makes the game waaaaaay easier for low skilled players and on low skill lobbies they can do whatever they want like use underpowered guns, hide on corners, camp and etc... But the combination of strict SBMM with so many noob friendly design decisions made MW most frustrating, boring and cheesiest Cod in the franchise. This game is a massive wasted potential, man

[@bladeclanhalo3]

"This game is a massive wasted potential," literally the best selling and most played cod to date. also, fast TTK is a problem? get the fuck out of here and back to black ops so it can hold your hand when you make mistakes. MW2 had ttks as low as 0.05 seconds, and that game was one of the best cods

[@pankhanafis818]

You cannot hate sbmm & say that the game's noob friendly......If you are matched with players of similar skill level & you hate that,then how come the noobs are doing great at the game??......thats contradictory...the game plays differently,more slow paced coz the low ttk,& more intricate map design....lots people don't like that playstyle...don't mix that up with terms like "noob friendly".....

[@lucky_-1y]

@@pankhanafis818 the game is clearly noon friendly with the design decisions that Ace talked about for 48 minutes lmao. And the problem isn't the blobs getting a easier time, the problem is the impact of those design decisions on high skill lobbies... Like what do you think is going to happen with the Ghost always on when everybody is a above average player? And honestly getting lobbies "with similar skilled players" isn't a issue, the game makes it be a issue because it's not fun, back when i was playing ranked on Apex, i felt like a high elo lobby was fun and challenging and i also had rewards, on MW is just cheesy and annoying and it's not even justified at all.

[@lucky_-1y]

@@bladeclanhalo3 nice arguments kid, lmao. No actual numbers just offend and then talk shit about something that you don't understand

[@bladeclanhalo3]

@@lucky_-1y "no actual numbers"...just official numbers...so good job trump. also, shit i dont understand? ahahahahahaha, bad kids are funny

[@flyingmanforfun]

Main issue with this game imo is SBMM, its absolutely insane, for me as a very good player it constantly puts me into some of the worst teams on the planet, usually my opponents dont really get that much better its just my team that gradually gets worse whenever im doing very well.

[@gldcad]

This is what i experience to all the time, and or i go against pre-mades all the time.

[@milli5689]

What is very good?

[@cefalopodo5717]

I actually think the straying from CoD part is good because as much as I loved the older games like BO2 for example ( or even BO3), it's undeniable that before MW2019 CoD was year after year sinking deeper and deeper into irrelevancy in terms of attention it received from the broader gaming scene, as well as in terms of quality within the franchise. This game may not be anything like the old CoDs, but if it did accomplish anything is bring Call of Duty back to the forefront of the gaming scene

[@rosco3]

CoD was going pretty well buddy. Also what gave this year franchise a boost was definitely Warzone and not MW.

[@solidzack]

Advanced Warfare Black Ops 3 Black Ops 4 Infinite Warfare Those are IMO the main reasons Call of Duty lost its reputation it built up in the past with Modern Warfare 2&3 and Black Ops 1&2. On their own they might be good games, but they aren't considered real "Call of Duty" games by many and I can totally see why. WW2 and MWR were created because people kept criticizing the futuristic games but those were lazily designed and mostly cash grabs. MW, while having A LOT OF dumb game decisions, was created with love and attention. You can see how hard they tried with the sounds, graphics, animations and all the content we received during the seasons.

[@bray2079]

@@solidzack i don't think it had much to do with game play. I think it came with them realizing map packs were splitting the player base. It also helps that battlefield is struggling right now so a lot of core bf fans are playing this because bfv wasn't well received.

[@1337808]

@@rosco3 Warzone is from Modern Warfare. And no it wasn't doing as great as it has before.

[@rosco3]

@@1337808 Warzone isn't from Modern Warfare. It's a completely separate game developed by a different developer. They just will tie Warzone to the current CoD, this happened to be MW this year and will be CW for the next year. Also yes CoD in general has been doing quite well for every single launch.

[@watchmework3688]

MW: Designs game around making it easier for new players Also MW: Every gun kills you in .1ms leaving no counterplay

[@muminrahman7088]

That's the point though, make TTK and recoil so low for every gun that casuals have a better chance of getting kills

[@dinimit4]

@@muminrahman7088 recoil is much lower in CW and previous COD too. I agree more is better though.

[@BIackPhillip]

@@dinimit4 In MW all of the guns have a consistent recoil pattern that can be easily mastered. In previous CODs the recoil was mostly random.

[@OldPanther]

@@muminrahman7088 Yet ace and many other complained with WW2 that long ttk was to help noobs. Which is it?

[@lequidam8827]

@@OldPanther KZbinrs shouldn’t be allowed to influence seasoned dev game design period. + OP didn’t even realize that MW 2019 was primarily designed to be a hardcore tactical shooter without a minimap and where sound plays a huge role. I hope he had what he wanted with Vanguard lol

[@pwinn1177]

Having azhir cave and talking about bad map design was perfect! Such a well thought out video and I mostly agree with all of your arguments about this game. For me as well, it was the only cod game where I literally got so angry. Hopefully Cold War can bring back multiplayer to where players can actually have fun while grinding and leveling up.

[@minues]

That map is a constant "go in the cave, get shot from a shadow". And if you go the other way there're so many windows and doors that it drives me mad.

[@gunswinger3110]

azhir definitely needed more holes in the cave ceiling, one lane of the entire map is indoors so avoiding streaks is very easy. Mid had too many angles and the other lane is too open.

[@willmack225]

Excellent job nailing all the problems with this game on the head. Showed my friends the SBMM part which is so spot on. Hoping for a better year in Cold War!

[@breezyyeezy8858]

The problem is Activision likes sbmm and so I have a fear for launching cold war😅

[@TheBlackItalianGamer]

I just finished watching the whole video and damn Ace practically nailed everything wrong with this game. Seriously it sucks to have such a beautiful game like this but plays and have this many problems. Great video Ace. Hope these devs sees this and improve in their next title

[@mgmoonie1073]

On point man. This game's mechanics and display has do much potential too bad the play out and game play is horrible solely because of how players play

[@localTurtwig]

“Cheesy low skill gap elements.” Laughs in riot shield/rpg/throwing knives

[@GodSpeed1105]

Indestructible riotshields*

[@Prof.Dr.Diagnose]

I would replace throwing knives with auto shotguns. You need some skill to annoy people with the throwing knives.

[@bruschetta7711]

It's either that or laser rifles

[@royisdabest]

@@Prof.Dr.Diagnose he means crouch walking with the riot shiel or equipping it and then instantly throw the knife

[@rarianomajoy57]

I couldn't agree more. I've been playing CoD since CoD4, only 6v6 multiplayer, I this is my first CoD ever where i can only sit down and play 1 or 2 games. The SBMM, the 6v6 maps and the visibility and safespaces makes this game so boring for me. Can't wait for Cold War.

[@mistahtee100]

I can’t even stress how much just small changes like a normal minimap and a slightly longer ttk would have VASTLY improved this game

[@vengeance160]

Length of ttk is super subjective. I for example, love the mw2019 ttk, warzone's good too, faster than apex, where ttk takes almost whole magazine to kill, that is actually annoys me.

[@mistahtee100]

@@vengeance160 this game’s biggest problem is how almost every core design choice encourages slow and campy play styles while punishing aggressive ones, laser fast ttk is a big reason why people play that way. You’re not gonna feel encouraged to move if you know you can get dropped in 1 frame. And you’re right, it is subjective, but it’s almost a fact that longer ttk games like apex have a more apparent skill curve because it actually tests how accurate you can be if you have to land a lot of shots to get a kill. I like COD because of the fast ttk too but they went overboard with this one

[@vengeance160]

@@mistahtee100 no, apex tests tracking skills, which ofc requires some accuracy, there are a lot of other skill types, such as snaps, and cod is perfect for that. About camping, for me, it seems as a problem for low KD lobbies, any other with higher KD dont have any issues with campers, they are actually quite counterable, and i am sure you are not depressed perfectionist who will tilt by just a couple of deaths by those campers.

[@mistahtee100]

@@vengeance160 to me, tracking while also having to counter-act recoil from sustained fire takes more skill than being able to snap onto a target that can be dropped in milliseconds. And a lot of high KD players get that high KD by adapting their play style to the campy more conservative by the game so it’s not just a low KD thing And you think entirely too much of me🤣 I will DEFINITELY run right back for revenge on someone who’s blatantly camping, it’s engrained in me at this point 😂

[@LeviBarnor]

I don't think the ttk is a main issue. For instance MW3 MW2 and Black Ops 2 all have waaay faster time to kills but they're all waaaaaayy more enjoyable due to main design decisions

[@JuacyGuac]

damn Ace out here looking like Socrates the way he's spitting facts

[@ncheetos]

MW2019 is the result of Activision wanting to capitalize on Siege's longevity without realizing the labor and expertise that goes into Siege's maps and sound design

[@afr0plays342]

Siege is a campy clunky dumpster fire

[@galagticcheeks06]

Sees "things MW19 did right" video is 15 minutes: *Alright, nice* Sees "things MW19 did wrong" video is 45 minutes long: _Oh_

[@drobiIIka]

thats because many minuses are actually pluses, and also some analisis arent enough deep. but still good analisis anyways

[@hallokity123]

I legit bought the game and played a couple of rounds with some friends and didn’t touch it again until warzone came out. I play multiplayer purely for leveling guns and its just not enjoyable. Even if I’m doing good I’m just stressed playing the game

[@campersruincod6134]

Legit way too much stress.

[@danskins2722]

Samsies. Let’s be friends ☺️

[@CoachMusaTv]

Lowkey facts. Leveling up guns in multiplayer legit feels like work

[@mightykodiak2584]

BO2 was the first cod that I learned and understood spawns and map control. Your point about “knowing exactly when the flip happens” is spot on. As well as paying attention to teammates on the map and inferring that enemies will spawn within gaps in your teams position.

[@user84074]

What MW did right: 15 minutes What MW did wrong: 47 minutes 😂😂😂

[@NotTheAutomaton]

Can we congratulate and thank Ace for making a video that points at the flaws of a game AND continues to welcome those who still really enjoy it? I loved and still love this game because it tickled my MW2 nostalgia, and Ace, I wish you could’ve enjoyed it as much, if not more, than me.

[@doodookaka]

History repeating itself with the new game making all the same mistakes

[@michaelm4062]

It’s comforting to hear that I’m not crazy. Like I used to love really high skill weapons, or working with something that was super niche, but I feel like in this game not only did I have to stick to “meta” weapons, but I also felt like I was actively punished if I had a good game

[@deurikin2466]

I agree. The FAL was a personal favorite and as luck it was good in core but all the handguns that weren’t the 357 revolvers were terrible. That’s why I loved hardcore because all it does is bridge that gap between the meta and niche weapons, making them all pretty viable. Because sure the meta weapons still shred in hardcore but not much harder than anything else.

[@numberdontlie6or9]

This cod definitely had a ton of potential, it hit the nail right on the head w/ it being said it was bringing back a modern warfare. Coming from MW2 days this cod brought me back to those times visually. But man the things they did wrong ruined this game for me entirely. The best cod for me was MW3, I love that cod for what it is gameplay wise. I had fun every game session. I could put on a silly class & try my luck to see how I do & have fun.. or I could put on any gun I wanted & still do well. I’m no noob but I’m also not a Handler or NateGibson lol. But this game my gosh I had more headaches playing wondering what I’m doing wrong. Sonically multiplayer is too loud, my own & team mates footsteps make it hard to really pin point who exactly is around me.. the kill streaks made my ears bleed when they would hover over the map. No dead silence perk made it hard to be as sneaky as you want. SBMM destroyed my ability to really play & have fun. If I play & go 20+ kills & 6 deaths I will for sure be put in a match that will have me struggling to even get over 15 kills w/ out being equally matched in deaths. Then the safe spaces, doors, all those littles things that cause someone to camp slows the game down drastically. In campaign it was amazing using doors in missions to infiltrate a building. Shit A+ for creating that environment in campaign. But multiplayer 👎👎 not good. Too many littles things to complain about but man this cod definitely could’ve been one of the best next to COD4/MW2/MW3 in regards being a modern shooter but it ranks low for me. Next year codcw I’m not really looking forward to 🤷‍♂️

[@fireronin8552]

100% agree, the only thing that the game did amazingly was the gunplay. This year was the first time I've had such a love/hate relationship with a Cod game

[@numberdontlie6or9]

@@fireronin8552 yeaaa man that’s basically the way I would describe it. A true “Love/Hate” relationship.

[@ThreeProphets]

The same tactics for clearing rooms in campaign apply to multiplayer. Sounds like you have the skills to do that, do just apply them

[@fireronin8552]

I somewhat get what you're trying to say, but I think you know that you can't play multiplayer like the campaign. My problem is that you actively get punished for trying to have fun. This isn't about rushing into danger like a headless chicken, it's just that there is like no incentive to move at all.

[@numberdontlie6or9]

@@fireronin8552 Yes! Exactly.. the realism factor they try to implement into a video is a bit too much in terms of multiplayer. For campaign it’s freaking great cause it’s all scripted & controlled. But multiplayer it just doesn’t work. This isn’t a simulator lol it’s a video. But hey another year another CoD 🤷‍♂️

[@hamza-chaudhry]

You forgot to mention that the killstreak system was another attempt to help new players as Infinity Ward said that scorestreaks are too complicated because you have to calculate how much score you need for your next streak. I find that ironic considering Cold War's streak system which is extremely complicated. EDIT: Your next point about not being able to loop streaks is also probably to help new players so that they don't get dominated by someone who's constantly earning V-tols or something.

[@beemotd1004]

Talking out of your ass here

[@Butchass6969]

@@beemotd1004 how so

[@beemotd1004]

@@Butchass6969 how is making killstreaks easier to calculate a bad thing, especially since they've almost been exactly the same since forever Just sounds like another unecessary senseless complaint

[@gunswinger3110]

Honestly if you told me to choose between CW's overcomplicated pseudo-scorestreak/killstreak system and MW's classic killstreak system, I'd still take MW's system. At least with the killstreaks you actually get a high getting the streaks.

[@Isaacreeper]

43:37 I love how he looks up as if saying, "wtf? What is crowding the airspace"

[@trip4life32]

Not to be that guy, but it's worth noting he looked up because he heard the EMP drone coming in, he wasn't able to call in his killstreak because of the round timer :3

[@Isaacreeper]

@@trip4life32 yeah I caught that afterwards... but sshhh dont tell anyone.

[@dudecory080]

Your take on SBMM is on point. I would love to see the old system, with a ranked playlist separate from regular public matches. Thanks Ace.

[@YTLinny]

I’ve lost all motivation to play 6v6. I have to play by myself due to the fact that all my friends are casuals so there is a big skill gap. I play video games for the social aspect and MW Multiplayer took that away.

[@Sevendustfan2009]

I get mad at dying in Modern Warfare, but when i died in Cold War i didn't get as mad because at least there was more people running around

[@exile3469]

That's exactly what i felt i couldn't explain why

[@Colton-fm8dh]

I felt like when I died in Cold War it was because I deserved to. That’s not how it feels in this game.

[@dillonc7955]

With Black Ops CW, you're more likely to figure out where you got shot from, how to counter the death next time, and so on. With MW, there's so many angles you need to watch and irregular maps in general, that some deaths felt like they couldn't be avoided as easily as a traditional CoD game.

[@Sevendustfan2009]

@@dillonc7955 exactly

[@Sevendustfan2009]

@@Colton-fm8dh exactly

[@gortam4737]

100% agreed, every single point. You forgot about visibility though.

[@paulshi5974]

Oh yeah... And excessive screen shake from all sorts of explosions and hit box inconsistencies...

[@evolnizark4712]

Try BF5 visibility lol

[@sebe11o]

@@paulshi5974 fr tho no one is talking how exaggerated is the screen shake bc of explosions, it throws you completely off the target you're aiming at

[@lucozade8373]

Yess

[@Maxshark999]

@@sebe11o shoothouse could be literally impossible to see on because of that. Explosions, client-sided dirt, screen shake, player models blending in with the dirt/trash, name plates, etc.

[@jimmynew3090]

I think the TTK in MW was way to fast.

[@drojas3333]

Agree 💯, its disappointing that the game looks, sounds and feels so much better than any other cod, but plays so much worse than any other cod

[@greatgallade]

It isn't a good feeling. It's a terrible feel of a game. It looks and sounds amazing just plays like shit and somehow people still have no life for it

[@WafleEnterprises]

I find it significantly better than BO4 despite the flaws. I can actually enjoy myself on MW

[@codysullivan656]

@@greatgallade idk i enjoy it because it doesn't play like another run of the mill cod. So excited for cold war -_- yay..

[@greatgallade]

@@codysullivan656 it's legitimately flawed from the ground up. From the movement to the looks. Trying to act realistic while going giving the characters speed of s heroine addict?

[@codysullivan656]

@@greatgallade you just don't like the game, that's cool, but if you don't play you don't need to complain. Simple as that.

[@chinguililla]

I don't like how certain perks, attachments, and special abilities were a necessity... Kinda annoying how if I don't run dead silence, E.O.D, a broken AR in warzone, C4 before nerf, or any of the current broken weapons really, my k/d and overall fun I'm having is gone.

[@HoldltDown]

Me during the spawns section: PREACH IT BROTHER!!! In my opinion spawns is the single biggest thing that ruined this game.

[@CAPRISUNBLAZE]

I agree I can match someone with the same skill but if spawn logic is decent then I can use my head to out smart em to take the edge, if the person is a lil more sweaty than me.

[@mr.x2134]

Piccadilly when the game launched... I'm surprised I kept playing for as long as I did

[@RP-16]

Modern warfare was catered to beginner/bad players. As a result it became a fan favorite.

[@zakali4195]

47 minutes long 😂😂😂 I got my popcorn ready

[@bigdbreada]

Looks like you got 10 mons left if your still watching

[@zakali4195]

@@bigdbreada nah I just finished

[@deshaunhairston5652]

Extra butter please 🍿

[@samkerridge3868]

Stopped playing the call of duty franchise after MW remastered decided to head back to the series after the release of MW2019 hated all the future elements so seeing MW2019 was a breath back to what we know and love as fans classic modern boots on the ground actiona and I have to say it has been hands down my absolute favourite call of duty in years purely down to the weapons the sound, visuals and overall feel of the game don't get me wrong this game has problems but so does every other title in the series however I genuinely feel infinity ward stepped up in a very big way here and set an example with what a call of duty game should he in the future. On the note of SBMM I fully agree with it and feel like we need it like it helps keep players comming back and keeps the higher skilled players on there toes and playing there best I would be bored out my mind stomping on everyone if I kept getting out in lobbies with noobs I don't think it's fair to say this installment is the furthers thing from the call of duty we are used to and know when you compare it to the last couple of years and a decline from the roots it has had this is the closest thing to the formula that the series was built on, it wasent the SBMM aspect that brought back a bigger audience it was going back to a familiar setting with nostalgic elements that did Note: This is comming from someone who has nearly 20 days put into the game across multiplayer/ warzone unlocking Damascus and obsidian Yes I agree alot of the camo challanges are ridiculous so generally playing the life out of this game has given me a strong perspective on this

[@ravendt1214]

100% agree!!!

[@DRandR1productionz]

you should also understand that the good players dont want to stomp noobs/disabled players/new players we want a random mix of slightly below average-average and good players like its always been but SBMM removes that completely its so draining having to have a cod league match every single game most of my friends who are good at COD including myself cant play for longer than 5 matches at a time, we cant play after work when we're tired because we get absolutely shit on, we cant relax and put on a playlist or a podcast because if you dont listen to footsteps in this game you're basically asking to go double negative, I cant play after coming back from the gym, I cant play with my IRL friends or my nephew because my KD is far too high I've played this game all year by myself and we dont even have consistent lobbies to make friends or talk to people for longer than 20 minutes it's exhausting and extremely boring there's absolutely nothing to show for you sweating at the end of the day

[@ਗਰੇਵਾਲ-ਧ3ਫ]

what a cod game SHOULD’NT be in the future , i agree on everything else

[@samkerridge3868]

@@DRandR1productionz I agree the games fantastic but SBMM needs to stay even turn it down abit I'd say

[@samkerridge3868]

@@ਗਰੇਵਾਲ-ਧ3ਫ the future based installments are what made me go off the series as a whole

[@ia3215]

3 times the length of the video on good things about MW Yep, about as I expected from you Ace 😂

[@deshaunhairston5652]

I expected an hour but I thought I was reaching with that but 47 minutes is close enough and loved every minute of it

[@AverageDoctor345]

16:05 This is why St. Petrograd is my least favorite map in the game. Sometimes the game will just continuously spawn my team in that one brick corner area, giving us only 2 escape routes that can easily be covered by the enemy team. It's so annoying.

[@Man-O-Little-Tan]

Yeah, by far the most spawn camped area

[@SwRthe1]

You haven't mentioned: visibility, black & screen, flinch, noob friendly TTK.

[@manny610]

@sw3ar I totally agree with you flinch in this game is sooooo bad, I hoped back on older cod’s and was just blown away how much flinch Modern Warfare has!

[@Nrzpokrter]

Ttk is just fine and visibility was a problem in beta but it was improved significantly. By black screen I assume you mean black and white screen when you got hurt and that was removed completly.

[@SwRthe1]

@@Nrzpokrter??? Ttk is 200ms and watch even Ace video, there is black white sreen Are you blind or what?

[@Nrzpokrter]

@@SwRthe1 There are only slight glimpses of black screen, not tje entire black screen as was seen in beta. And ttk is just fine, its only a preferemce while most of the things in this video were objectively bad things and not preferences.

[@wakotaco46]

​@@Nrzpokrter The visbility has most certainly NOT improved, the sun still blinds you if you're inside a building looking out a door way( and vice versa.) I get that's how lighting works in real life, but it's stupid to have in a video game. Not to mention the dark ass corners in maps like Superstore, and the ambient occlusion in the game makes it hard to spot people at distances

[@_Keego_]

Advanced Warfare didn't have a permanent perk to silence footsteps. They had "Exo Mute" ability. However the base footstep audio was definitely not as loud as MW

[@yangjiao2090]

AW is like the opposite of MW. Although it didn't have a permanent silence perk, people are jumping around with exo movement so that you can't locate their exact location based on the audio.

[@_Keego_]

@@yangjiao2090 I agree. It was just the only other cod to not have it. That's all I was comparing.

[@rosco3]

Nobody walked in that game anyway.

[@ludi489]

This is what exo movement did good. People moved. It added a new dimension of movement skill. If not for the overuse for 3 games straight, it’d still be fun. Edit - it is still fun, actually. Wording was wrong, I meant in general people got tired of it

[@yangjiao2090]

@@ludi489 To me AW was the most enjoyable COD I've ever played. The exo movement is way better than BO3 and IW, and the grapple hook in the DLC took it even to another level. Extremely fast paced, and the scorestreaks are also fun to use and customized. AW does have its own problems and many people hated it, but it is just sad for me to see SHG and Activision completely ditching this series and moving to WW2/Vietnam.

[@LivewireNation]

What they did wrong: put more effort into warzone then multiplayer

[@huellbabineaux7433]

I have no idea why they did that, they forgot what made cod popular.

[@lunchpin403]

@@synnexLIVE they needed a slap tbh

[@PhoenixAce]

@@lunchpin403 if you slap something angry you’ll only make it angrier don’t slap the cod community!

[@lunchpin403]

@@PhoenixAce I'm gonna slap the cod community

[@Deathmare235]

They put too much effort into multiplayer they focused on their precious noobs

[@Omer-mk7hc]

what about vision clarity? i swear i cant see shit in that cave map and roze battle pass skin is impossible to spot in a dark room

[@venglomarci]

And all the other green ones too

[@ReboyGTR]

*S A F E S P A C E S*

[@deshaunhairston5652]

Yup that's what the moronic IW developers wanted for the game

[@lunchpin403]

@J cope

[@Outlaw58D]

@@lunchpin403 shill

[@bladeclanhalo3]

@J do you enjoy being wrong? btw i do hope you're aware that the campers in this game sit at the lower end of the sbmm bracket because the game is too fast after coming from the shit treyarch regurgitate

[@bossmicky9256]

@@bladeclanhalo3 you gon have to write that in caps so he can read it and make sure he understands that, I honestly believe only people that complain about campers are the same ppl that play w them since their sbmm bracket is so low & that they aren’t good

[@edgarmatias1203]

Looking back now. How did we let infinity ward make another MW.

[@Vaz_G]

Old people who are bad at games and hate movement still fill IWs pockets

[@DaPoopinator]

Coming back to this during season 3 of MW2, it boggles my mind at how many people swear this game is the second coming of jesus.

[@MambaBlanca]

You forgot to mention that the severity of the SBMM in MW has greatly impacted and increased connection speed and ping. Never have I ever had to play with such high connection speed or wait so long to connect to a game.

[@malpiszon2318]

The most modern warfare moment I had was being 2 kills away from a gunship, and after capturing b flag, 2 people have spawned directly before and after my character

[@zerosolis6664]

I've never really had that happen. There's a lot of issues people have with this game (some have been present in other games with no complaints or not nearly as many) that I haven't really encountered. Looked through the vid's "chapter" thing and decided I wasn't watching it when I saw "straying too far from CoD". This is the most CoD CoD since BO2 for me. I don't know what to say.

[@Kaiokendrew]

@@zerosolis6664 Very well said, man. I feel like this is the epitome of what COD was always meant to be

[@blorgxsnorp7449]

@@Kaiokendrew This is what COD is supposed to be? This is not what COD is supposed to be, but it is what you prefer. COD is supposed to be fast paced arcade style, while MW19 went for a more realistic approach. I am not saying it is a bad game, but this does mean that it did stray away from what COD is supposed to be, which is a fast paced arcade shooter.

[@Kaiokendrew]

@@blorgxsnorp7449 I can absolutely understand your opinion, man. But to me personally, COD has always been about the fun, interesting playstyles and all the creative variety in the customization, the smooth mechanics bringing it all to life in a fun way. This game really gives me that creative outlet with the great weapons and Gunsmith, with complex and intricate maps to learn and master

[@blorgxsnorp7449]

@@Kaiokendrew I understand where you are coming from and I totally agree with you there. Thank you for giving me a new perspective to look at COD from.